Walther PDP Pro SD Compact: Better than original? Worth the price tag?!
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2023
- We liked the original PDP, but didn’t love it. With the release of the Pro model we home to rekindle the fire and hopefully fall in love this time. Watch and find out if the relationship ends in love.
Purchased the PDP Pro 4.6 and I think this gun is amazing! I put the Holosun SCS on the gun, which the SCS can be directly mounted (no need to wait for Walther to send a plate) and it will also co-witness with the factory sights. I am currently waiting for my Herrington Arms comp, which I understand runs well on the PDP Pro.
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I had a PPQ Q4 Tac…traded up for the PDP 4” when it was released and upgraded once more to the PDP SD compact! Probably my favorite striker pistol I own!
Sweet it’s definitely a well built and well performing gun. My beef or dislike of it has everything to do with my hands and shooting style and noting to do with the gun itself. Everyone is different that’s why there are so many guns out there. Thanks for watching and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
That trigger is something special
Trigger is nice
ZR Tactical 13 or 15 lb captured guide rods both work great with 115 and 124 ammo.
Yeah I got 3 springs from them and went with the 15 for carry and the 13 for range fun. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
Your honesty is refreshing. I agree, with you on the price verses the plastic guide rod, and sights.
It’s a fact. I love the gun but it’s ridiculous to have to replace the guide rod and sights
@GSquaredTactical why do you feel the guide rod has to be replaced on a polymer pistol the sd pro come with another guide rod and spring for suppressed shooting. Its exactly the same guide rod and spring and spring wieght as the ppq and q4 tac of old.
I don’t know if you have ever paid any attention, or really did a hard-core comparison between shooting a gun with a plastic guide rod, and then putting a stainless guide rod in the same gun, and then shooting it just to see how much better managed the recoil is and how much more accurately you can shoot with it. Not to mention, it just bothers me that I can pull that spring out and literally bandit into the shape of a U
I just feel like a girl in that cost that much and is hyped up as much as that one of you should have a one piece, stainless guide rod
I’ve tried the 13LBS guide rod on this firearm but it was too weak, the 15LBS is the sweet spot! Thanks for the video!
Yes sir I tried the 11 and it functioned fine and was a dream to shoot but you could tell it was under sprung so I do have the 15 now
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Optics plate will take a week or two to arrive. Not sure why people hate on polymer guide rods, steel rods don’t flex and often drag on the inside of the hole in the slide it protrudes through while reciprocating.
I changed to a ZR Tactical guide rod and the difference was noticeable. Typically when I do things like that, there’s no real noticeable difference or it is so small. It is difficult to recognize a difference, but there was a difference. It was noticeable mostly in the recoil response. I just know that every gun I’ve ever owned that has a one piece stainless guide rod shooting performance is way better. So that is why I personally prefer that. Thanks for watching. Please be sure to subscribe if you have not already.
I've got this exact model with a Trijicon SRO, Surefire X300-U and an Omega9K suppressor on it.
Sweet sounds like a nice setup
I agree on the sites and the plates. Would cost them almost nothing to add them . Cost us hundreds . Just shot my cz75 bd I bought 6 months ago . It’s amazing . Everyone took turns with it and were amazed at the trigger and how easy it was to hit your target. Very accurate gun
All CZ’s are amazing. Just reviewed the cz shadow 2 compact today.
Your wrong it does cost them and any manufacturer more if they added the plates it will add 100 more dollars becuase they would add not just one plate tgey would add several it would be over 1k
@@boomee78 funny how smith Wesson 10 mm . Glock mos . Even palmetto armory 5.7 rock pistol I have the plates came with them and they were all cheap. Smith Wesson and Psa came with suppressor high site too
I somewhat agree with both points of view. I do believe that the gun manufacturers profit margin is large enough. They should be able to eat some of that without adding too much, if any to the price of the gun. But with that being said, if you were to buy those plates separately they would cost about $40-$60 each. Also, Glock does not provide the plates with the MOS any longer. I’m not exactly sure when they stopped doing it but it was sometime this year because I have noticed gun stores sale all that Glock MOS plate bundle in the cardboard up on the wall now and they said Glock stopped putting them in there sometime this year. In the case of the Walther, I will say that I ordered the free plate for the Rmr, the same day i bought the gun and it arrived at my front door in six days so it was here pretty quick I just get frustrated because I would like to outfit it with the optic the same day I bought it but I do understand that most people are just going to pick one plate and probably lose the other three so they just say we will give you a free plate. Just tell us which one you want so we don’t have to drive the price up by adding four in every single bundle. It’s kind of a love-hate kind of thing with me because back when I first started buying optic ready guns, it seemed that all of them came with plates and slowly, but surely they stopped. That’s why I like the guns like the Canik, MC9, the Springfield echelon, the Iwi Masada and a couple others that you can flush mount without a plate. Sidenote FN those provide for optic plates with their guns but my God the price of the average FM is about $1200 so I guess you paid for it in the end.
I just got a PDP and can’t stand it and made me get a cz75 p-01 just ordered tonight actually. Talk about good triggers
Yeah grabbing the compact in the pro sd in grey.
That’s a solid choice, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed
Two many negatives for me to purchase this one. To buy the things that you mentioned as negatives would bring the price up another 300 dollars with new Trijicon suppressor sights, optic plates, steel guide rod. Thank you for your review and you have a new subscriber.
Thank you sir. I want to like it but I just can’t given all the extra money I put in it to make it halfway decent. Kinda like a Glock you gotta put $400 in it to make it great after buying.
The optic plate can be sent out by them for free yeah it sucks its not included
@billtalbert6165 it’s just inconvenient and other companies send it with the firearm
Great review! I thought I was the only person in the world who thinks the PDP Pro SD suffers from Glock-itis, with all the plastic, place holder parts. For the price, all the plastic is unacceptable. That being said, the trigger is great in this firearm, and it points very well. It has some kind of mojo, in spite of its shortcomings. Thanks for the video.
I ended up selling it after dropping $150 on 2 titanium guide rods an #11 and #15 and still just didn’t do well with it. I sold it for a huge loss and just chalked it up a loss. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you have not already
15lb spring to cycle properly. Great gun I owe a full size and a compact. That’s how much I love it. And I’m a Glock guy
Yeah I bought the #15 although it cycled fine with the #11 just knocked out of battery to easy. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
You missed outs then not trying the beretta APX ;(
Do you like the APx
@@GSquaredTactical yes sir, absolutely …. Had the p320 (changed it from compact 9mm to full .40 before any range time) in my hands first so that was what I thought quality was supposed to be. Then I got a beretta.. they’re both good and accurate but the beretta was obviously designed better even tho it’s slightly less modular (can’t just slip the FCU out without tools). And the polymer is like some kind of metal compared to the super plasticy Sig… then I got an SD40ve and that just jams easy but still feels heavier and higher quality than the PDP after that. HOLYYYYY crap the PDP feeels like a cheap toy compared to everything. Didn’t know it was mandatory to weigh it down with lights and optics. Flipped like a dolphin without anything. Beretta hit everything you put the dot on with ease. Handful of ppl were expecting to favor the PDP at the range but walked away loving beretta… they’re heavy like metal frame and they scream quality and heft… the PDP screams Hefty but is more like an anorexic on a diet … must save them some money. Beretta has almost full rail system like CZ is famous for. Speaking of that my p-01 is due in this week. Done with polymer strikers now
Sweet glad you’re a fan and found what you liked
For the price hell yeah...$150 more, threaded barrel, performance trigger, magwell, baseplates, steal of a deal. I don't understand how Walther makes money on it. The sights are the only thing they failed at, the guide rod I don't mind...they have tested it and wouldn't be there if it wasn't reliable.
It’s a good gun. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
Any Glock sights will fit on this firearm if you are wanting to swap sights.
@JamesIngram84 yes sir I’ve already replaced them with Ameriglo blacked out rear orange front. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe it you haven’t already.
@@GSquaredTactical actually it's an excellent gun right out of the box it beats Glock
Glocks are great guns but Walthers PdP has them beat
@2aisabsoluteTim I can agree with that. Please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
I got one on my Buds guns list. This will be in my collection.
If you lived in NC and have a permit you can buy this one lol. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
These have been available for as low as 599,no tax recently. With 100 free hollow points from Walther for their rebate
Stop hurting my feelings dog lol. I don’t buy guns online. I’m a small business owner and I support brick and mortar to a fault. I firmly believe you get what you give and I’m going to pay more to buy local brick and mortar
@@GSquaredTactical I can respect that, the transfer fee goes to the local 🤷♂️. 600 vs 850+ tho
Yeah I knew the place I was buying it was known for being $50 to $75 higher but even our regular brick and mortars are at $769.
No hate mail from me on your Canik trigger comment, I concur. I just bought the Canik SFX Rival 2 weeks ago, and picked up the PDP Pro SD yesterday. The Rival has a better feeling trigger of the tow to me. Havent shot the PDP at the range yet, but it'll be shot today.
Canik trigger is lighter, shorter reset and has a more predictable break. Not by much but slightly better
@GSquaredTactical Well I shot my PDP Pro today and while it was accurate out of the box, I'd have to say I prefer shooting the Canik SFX Rival. The PDP has more recoil impulse than other similar pistols of its size. I somewhat anticipated that would be the case. During the purchase process I commented how light the pistol felt (I didn't know the weight at that time). While that's good for carrying, it's not good for those sensitive to recoil pulse. I think most people just drool over it because of the brand recognition. While I like its look, had I shot this prior, I would not have purchased it. Still a nice pistol though.
Yeah I (Gene) have a little buyers remorse. If you buy the ZR Tactical 15lb spring it does help a great deal with the recoil
Sorry if you have answered this but what sights are you deciding to go with? I just bought a holosun 507c ACSS Vulcan and want a pair that will work with the red dot. Thanks in advance.🤠. And I agree I’m looking to put a 15lb stainless still guide rod.
I bought the Glock 17/18 etc Ameriglo 1x height night sights with orange front and solid black out rear. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
I bought the Glock 17/18 etc Ameriglo 1x height night sights with orange front and solid black out rear. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
holosun scs pdp = direct slide fit without plate = stock sight cowitness
Yeah but I would have changed the garbage plastic “adjustable” sights anyway. Thanks for watching
I was told from local gun store that after you purchase gun, provide receipt to walther they will send you optic plate for free
Yes sir that’s correct they had it to me in a week. Fill out the form online
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Yeah he spent a lot of time complaining about that
@masonite1973 I did
I'll continue to stick with my 2 tried true tested original P99 Gen 1's for I 'm an iron open sighted pistol guy and none of this red dot crap on my pistols that's just me I'll have the red dot gadjets on my AR9 PCC for distance and home defense as well but yes a tac light on one of my P99's !!!
I understand I love the p99 as well. Just bought the Final Edition p99 and I also have a SW99 cambered in 45. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
The only thing I don’t like is mags aren’t compatible without changing plates
Ahh I’ve never even tried. Thanks for the info and for watching. Please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
If i paid 800 plus for my pro compact id be pissed about not having night sites, optic plates, and it being over sprung. I paid $602 for mine, and if you contact walther about the optic you are using, they'll send you the plate for free. Metal guide rods are not all theyre cracked up to be, plastic one saves weight and money. If youre worried about it breaking (which requires thousands and thousands of rounds) then buy a couple plastic spares or upgrade it to tungsten.
Yeah I know for sure I over paid but I’m brick and mortar to a fault brother. Thanks for the spring advise. Please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
@@GSquaredTactical i try so hard to support my local shops but the 2 stores that have a decent inventory, price gouge, and the shops that dont bend us over, never have what im looking for. I guess theres a reason for that correlation but ive spent 100s over average costs too many times and could have used that on ammo or accessories instead.
My 2 local shops will often price match about anything I show them and I get great deals from them but I bought this one at a place known for gouging but they had it so here we are lol.
Video request: PDP Pro SD vs SFT Pro. Thanks
We have a SFX Pro. I’d take the SFX all day. Please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
@@GSquaredTactical thanks for responding. I am subscribed. Have been a big fan of you and your son’s channel. I have a Rival, love it. Plan on getting either the SFT or SFX Pro as well.
@MACKTRUCKHUGE thank you for saying that! I (Trey) count my rival as one of my favorite all time guns
SFT Pro shoots flatter, although a bit larger weapon in dimensions. SFT Pro trigger is noticeably lighter. About 3lbs. Walther feels heavier.
@davdcl499 SFT all day
I originally did not like striker fired guns the fact that the only safty is the trigger even though I onow not to touch a trigger untile your ready to fire in a stress situation a novice could easily make a mistake my choice 15 years ago was the p99 as I still think that was the best best of both worlds double and single action decoder it's my only choice as a carry gun I thought the pdp would have included some of those features the p99 never went over here mainly because the paddle magazine release witch I have no problems with but they could have easily put a button style like the second gen ppq I was also disappointed that walther had the pro in the works but they still put it out when they really should of waited to release the gun I have a suppressor and it cost 180 dollars just for a threaded barrel I am not going to sell mine for nothing to buy the pro I just can't blow money like that especially in a sport that thanks to our government cost a fortune
Yeah I like the P99 and I also have a SW99 chambered in 45acp very rare. Canik makes a tp9da that’s an awesome gun that has the decocker as well. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
Almost NOBODY has EVER broken plastic sights or plastic recoil spring but STILL they have to bitch about them.
Here he is again 😂
P99 is a great feel and look. The q5 has a similar look. I dont think pdp grip feels as good as p99 or q5. I love my p99 and it's clone " tp9da ".
I agree the original is better. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
Any set of Glock sights will fit and work on this firearm if you did not know.
Yes sir I’ve owned several PDP’s and have put Glock sights on them all. Thanks for the info I appreciate it.
If you asked for sights it will be another 100 dollars for the gun
At some point, it just becomes making an excuse for the manufacturer for the sake of doing so because you are a fan of the brand. I know this because I have done it before when I have been sold out to a particular brand and then people call out things about it And I continually make excuses. Again it is just another polymer frame striker fired semi auto sorta of Glock clone that cost over $800 and somethings should just be there and that’s just my opinion only.
So whats not to love about the original? Its not a CCW. Performance Duty Pistol.👈. Emphasis on Duty.
Wasn’t a fan of the trigger and the model I had was a little to large. I’m not a police officer or active duty military so I’m not on duty. I really liked the original but this is better. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
@@GSquaredTactical You must be the only channel that ever said, they weren't a fan of the trigger. I'm not, nor in twenty plus years as a Cop been a fan of trigger reset. Especially in a shooting.
Reset doesn’t matter in the heat of battle agreed but doing RUclips if we don’t mention it 2900 people will ask about it.
@@GSquaredTactical LOL. No doubt.
Got many issues with mine, many stove pipes and failure to eject. sent it twice to Walter, and they couldn’t fix it and they send it back to me as is! Never buy anything from Walter again!!!
Wanna sell it?
I do
I haven’t had any issues but I’m just not a fan. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
@@Strange84 Why would I sell you a bad firearm? You need something reliable to protect your life!
That’s true
It's a plastic gun. What do you expect?
A metal guide rod
Dont cry ... in Poland price : 1275 $ . Why ? I don't know ...
Goodness gracious that’s high! Makes me feel a little better lol. Thanks for watching and please subscribe if you haven’t already
I’ve tried the 13LBS guide rod on this firearm but it was too weak, the 15LBS is the sweet spot! Thanks for the video!
13 is recommended when running a herrington or pmm comp. 15 for stock.
I’m certain it came with an 18lb but the 15 makes it a different gun. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already