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My uncle worked on Hurricane's in the desert for the Royal Australian Air Force. He was in 3 squadron. I was told that spitfire pilots would make a excuse to land at his airfield as they wanted his tuning experience with the Rolls Royce Merlin Engine. Aussie Jeff Moore
NOTE: The prefix "Bf" was an exclusivity of the Bf-109. It referred ONLY to the Bf-109, because it adressed the placement of the plant where they were first built. I guess in Bayersdorf (Bf), if I'm not wrong. It's an exception, for all the rest of the Messerschmitt planes were named by the standards of the time of using a prefix to remember its manufacturer; Fw, Focke-Wulf, Bv, Blohm un Voss, Messerschmitt, Me.
Umm .there was a twin engine bf-110 used during the battle of Britain,which didn't meet expectations.. later becoming a night fighter...never the less,it carries the Bf prefix....js
Correction: the company hast the Name "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke" ( bavarian plane factory). Willy Messerschmitt was the Ingenieur and constructor of the company. Therefore BF
I came across a video on RUclips on this and even the Germans seem to use both Bf and Me randomly, and also both together. So it is understandable confusing.
I'm so lucky to have flown both in my 38 years of flying, I preferred the Hurricane as it was easier to fly and had better vision but the Spit was a lovely plane as well
Why is it never possible to talk about the Hurricane without dragging the Spitfire into the conversation, it`s like a boost and a put-down all in one go.
All one has to-do, is Note HOW MANY CONFORMED KILLS the Hurricane had Vs. (even using post-WW-2 sorties) the Kill Total for the Spitfire/Seafire. Only the BF-109 tallied more victories. But, I'd also add Tanks, Trucks, Trains, and Ships to the Hurri's Tally! After you gather That Data, the Spitfire truly comes-in second or-worse, for All Time.
Even though I'm American, England and the USA came together in a great way, I've always loved the hurricane, those pilots with those masks look so cool. 🇺🇸🇬🇧
The Hurricane had greater successes than Spitfires during The Battle of Britain. It was easier and quicker to build and maintain than the Spitfire. I know this because I had one aunt who built them in Kingston and one aunt who repaired them at RAF Benson, due to the fabric fuselage. The Spitfire had an aluminium build, which whilst stronger, was harder to repair and longer to manufacturer. The Hurricane was superior to the Spitfire as a perfect gun platform and also was used as a tank destroyer in North Africa. However, the Spitfire was a beautiful aircraft
British jets always struck me as odd being American. But the Propeller planes of WWII were absolutely brilliant and beautiful in function and form. And boy did the lads know how to used them to great effect.
Hurricane is one if my favorite aircraft. What made it good for the battle of Britain was numbers and ease of repair. Due to greater number of available hurricanes vs spits, hurricanes shot down more aircraft during battle of Britain.
@@timmeinschein1061 Badar preferred the 303 bullet he said it was obviously quicker and was more effective rather like a shotgun I see his reasoning do you ?
When Hawker's Sid Camm drew up the conversion of the 30's Hawker Fury Bipe to a Monoplane, he did every thing right that he could; the Allies refused to make a SOA A/C Engine comparable to the Krautenese DB 603 or 605. He was stuck with the same Carbureted 1060 HP old Rolls that WE also used....we're in the rear with the gear, no bombs falling on us, no planes attacking, and we have the moldy old rolls and 50 cal MGs thro' most of the war......Compared with the Grumman outfit, Camm's solutions were great...the Grumman engineers stuck a powerless F3F 1830 on the F4F Monoplane Conversion; but, even worse, they placed the One Wing Mid Fuselage, Leaving the Lousy Bipe landing gear in place. Camm firmly bolted a well designed wing onto his Hurricane and gave it a Solid Wide Track Landing Gear. Hurricanes shot down a Crap-load of Gitleru's Ridiculous Light Bombers. Grumman offered up the F8F Helllcat my Uncle flew off the Suwanee Escort Carrier in WWTwice as a belated apology. Apo-Logy NOT accepted-- keel-haul those rats.
There were no monetária tô do the both. They choosed Spitfire tô be the stalion and used hurricane as a beast of burden. The Stalion ride the Chevalier, Burden Best Strenghed all people..If you are reading this today is because British decisivo were right..
The reason for the 1 white and the 1 black wing underside is that the British Radar covered only the approaches, and had very little if any inland coverage! They had to rely on hastily trained (mainly civilian) spotters on the ground. Hence a very easy way to ID all RAF aircraft and assume anything else was an enemy!!!
During the Battle of Britain the Hurricane could match the Bf-109 for speed in a turning fight and could out turn it in a tighter turn if a bit slower.
I wish people would say a month and year for denoting a time period. Not saying a season. It depends where you live, as to what season it is, let alone some parts of the world barely having seasons.
To be fair, when talking in english about WW2 fighter planes on the European theater, northern hemisphere with bloody well defined winters is the safe assumption 😊. I know that nowadays europacentrism is somewhat frowned upon, but historically thats where the conflicts generally started .
@@mark7321 What if fighting was mentioned in Singapore in the summer of 1942, then later you hear it say January? Then northern viewers would wonder what happened over 11 months. It is also imprecise., since there are three months in a season.
@@kentl7228we're not stupid, we understand northern/southern hemispheres. My brother in New Zealand having a barbecue Christmas dinner around the pool because it's summer there while I was freezing my tits off in Britain.
Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (BFW/Bavarian Aircraft Works). Willi Messerschmitt joined as a designer in 1926 and after lots of political manouevering became Chairman of the company when it was reformed as Messerschmitt AG (Messerschmitt Aktiengellschaft). The 'Me' prefix applied to all designs acquired by the RLM ( Reichsluftfahrtministerium = Aviation Ministry) after the new company formed in 1938 while the 'Bf' designation was kept for designs acquired before then. The Bf-108, Bf-109, and Bf-110 officially kept the 'Bf' designation throughout tge War.
In reality the Hurricane (being less able than the Spitfire) concentrated on attacking the bombers, while the more advanced Spitfires attacked the 109s. But the “Battle of Britain” is somewhat of a myth. Britain was saved from invasion, not by the so-called “Battle of Britain” air battle, but by the Royal Navy which was immensely more powerful than the German navy. As the earlier Norway campaign proved.
@@bobsakamanos4469they didn't have the means to pursue a successful Sea Lion . Even if they had air superiority, the RN would have had a field day . The Kriegsmarine knew this , and were mightily relieved when Adolf got bored and looked Eastward.
Poland had ordered both Hurricane I and MS 406 for evaluation prior to Sept. 1 1939. The first Hurricane I was supposedly at the pier in Gdynia on Sept. 1. All knowledge of what happened to it was lost. Poland also was doing advanced testing on their own modern low wing monoplane the PZL P.50
How significant was the Hurricaine as an expeditionary fighter/bomber/recon air asset. Easy to repair and maintain far from home, on land or sea. The radial engine of FW190 and US models was more appropriate to this role than the highly strung Merlin.
Would be withdrawn from the Far East and Pacific. It was getting outclassed and shot out of the sky. Hagigrapy and cheerleading ended in the late 50s. Thanks!
I know that 20mm cannons were unsuccessfully trialed in 19 sqn Spitfire Mk1's in 1940 and I believe the problem was the ammunition feed during high G manouvres exacerbated by the beautifully thin Spitfire wing but why weren't they trialed in the much deeper and more accommodating wing of the Hurricane until after 1940? They could have done great slaughter amongst the hordes of Heinkels, Dorniers and Junkers that were essentially proof against .303 rounds.
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Spitfire and the Hurricane did the business,great combination
My uncle worked on Hurricane's in the desert for the Royal Australian Air Force. He was in 3 squadron.
I was told that spitfire pilots would make a excuse to land at his airfield as they wanted his tuning experience with the Rolls Royce Merlin Engine.
Aussie Jeff Moore
Good enough is good enough in most battles. Thanks for this fine video. I often wondered why Britain hung on to the Hawker Hurricane.
NOTE: The prefix "Bf" was an exclusivity of the Bf-109. It referred ONLY to the Bf-109, because it adressed the placement of the plant where they were first built. I guess in Bayersdorf (Bf), if I'm not wrong. It's an exception, for all the rest of the Messerschmitt planes were named by the standards of the time of using a prefix to remember its manufacturer; Fw, Focke-Wulf, Bv, Blohm un Voss, Messerschmitt, Me.
Umm .there was a twin engine bf-110 used during the battle of Britain,which didn't meet expectations.. later becoming a night fighter...never the less,it carries the Bf prefix....js
Correction: the company hast the Name "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke" ( bavarian plane factory). Willy Messerschmitt was the Ingenieur and constructor of the company. Therefore BF
Bavarian Feldcraft= Bf. They designed the plane I believe.🧐
@@edherman8169 ed, believe me , in Deutschland sprechen wir deutsch , Not english !
I came across a video on RUclips on this and even the Germans seem to use both Bf and Me randomly, and also both together. So it is understandable confusing.
I'm so lucky to have flown both in my 38 years of flying, I preferred the Hurricane as it was easier to fly and had better vision but the Spit was a lovely plane as well
Why is it never possible to talk about the Hurricane without dragging the Spitfire into the conversation, it`s like a boost and a put-down all in one go.
Big brother, little brother thing...
All one has to-do, is Note HOW MANY CONFORMED KILLS the Hurricane had Vs. (even using post-WW-2 sorties) the Kill Total for the Spitfire/Seafire. Only the BF-109 tallied more victories. But, I'd also add Tanks, Trucks, Trains, and Ships to the Hurri's Tally! After you gather That Data, the Spitfire truly comes-in second or-worse, for All Time.
Even though I'm American, England and the USA came together in a great way, I've always loved the hurricane, those pilots with those masks look so cool. 🇺🇸🇬🇧
superb aircraft that we owe a great debt together with the spitfire it bought us our freedom
The Hurricane had greater successes than Spitfires during The Battle of Britain. It was easier and quicker to build and maintain than the Spitfire. I know this because I had one aunt who built them in Kingston and one aunt who repaired them at RAF Benson, due to the fabric fuselage. The Spitfire had an aluminium build, which whilst stronger, was harder to repair and longer to manufacturer. The Hurricane was superior to the Spitfire as a perfect gun platform and also was used as a tank destroyer in North Africa. However, the Spitfire was a beautiful aircraft
The chap who said the Hurricane is wobbly is wrong, every appraisal I`ve come across said what a steady gun platform it was.
Very nicely presented! Looking forward to part 2.
Many thanks!
The spitfire had the name but Hawker hurricane and the men who flew the fighter
Did most of work but never got the recommendations it deserves
British jets always struck me as odd being American. But the Propeller planes of WWII were absolutely brilliant and beautiful in function and form. And boy did the lads know how to used them to great effect.
12 machine guns, how awesome is that,12.
Hurricane is one if my favorite aircraft. What made it good for the battle of Britain was numbers and ease of repair. Due to greater number of available hurricanes vs spits, hurricanes shot down more aircraft during battle of Britain.
Hurricane MK.IIB for me!
That's the one I'd pick as well.
This Canadian bloke ain’t thatgood but it’s his opinion which I feel is poor
IIC (with four 20 mm cannon)
@@timmeinschein1061 Badar preferred the 303 bullet he said it was obviously quicker and was more effective rather like a shotgun I see his reasoning do you ?
Spit mk v was ok
When Hawker's Sid Camm drew up the conversion of the 30's Hawker Fury Bipe to a Monoplane, he did every thing right that he could; the Allies refused to make a SOA A/C Engine comparable to the Krautenese DB 603 or 605. He was stuck with the same Carbureted 1060 HP old Rolls that WE also used....we're in the rear with the gear, no bombs falling on us, no planes attacking, and we have the moldy old rolls and 50 cal MGs thro' most of the war......Compared with the Grumman outfit, Camm's solutions were great...the Grumman engineers stuck a powerless F3F 1830 on the F4F Monoplane Conversion; but, even worse, they placed the One Wing Mid Fuselage, Leaving the Lousy Bipe landing gear in place. Camm firmly bolted a well designed wing onto his Hurricane and gave it a Solid Wide Track Landing Gear. Hurricanes shot down a Crap-load of Gitleru's Ridiculous Light Bombers. Grumman offered up the F8F Helllcat my Uncle flew off the Suwanee Escort Carrier in WWTwice as a belated apology. Apo-Logy NOT accepted-- keel-haul those rats.
The Hurricane lost out to being upgraded, as the Spitfire got all the attention and money. Shame.
There were no monetária tô do the both. They choosed Spitfire tô be the stalion and used hurricane as a beast of burden. The Stalion ride the Chevalier, Burden Best Strenghed all people..If you are reading this today is because British decisivo were right..
Hurricane was amazing, fire power machine guns that could mow down trees.
My favourite...
The reason for the 1 white and the 1 black wing underside is that the British Radar covered only the approaches, and had very little if any inland coverage!
They had to rely on hastily trained (mainly civilian) spotters on the ground. Hence a very easy way to ID all RAF aircraft and assume anything else was an enemy!!!
During the Battle of Britain the Hurricane could match the Bf-109 for speed in a turning fight and could out turn it in a tighter turn if a bit slower.
sometimes it worked as a tug for th slow ME`s (:-)
Always my favourite, especially being the so called underdog.
I wish people would say a month and year for denoting a time period. Not saying a season. It depends where you live, as to what season it is, let alone some parts of the world barely having seasons.
To be fair, when talking in english about WW2 fighter planes on the European theater, northern hemisphere with bloody well defined winters is the safe assumption 😊. I know that nowadays europacentrism is somewhat frowned upon, but historically thats where the conflicts generally started .
@@mark7321 What if fighting was mentioned in Singapore in the summer of 1942, then later you hear it say January? Then northern viewers would wonder what happened over 11 months. It is also imprecise., since there are three months in a season.
@@kentl7228we're not stupid, we understand northern/southern hemispheres. My brother in New Zealand having a barbecue Christmas dinner around the pool because it's summer there while I was freezing my tits off in Britain.
@@howardchambers9679 Yes, but what about equatorial countries? It is just faster to say June 1942 or whatever, and be done with it )
Never turn your back on a work horse for somthing flashy
Hurricane is my favourite
Could the hurricane have been improved to have been more of a threat as a fighter
Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (BFW/Bavarian Aircraft Works). Willi Messerschmitt joined as a designer in 1926 and after lots of political manouevering became Chairman of the company when it was reformed as Messerschmitt AG (Messerschmitt Aktiengellschaft). The 'Me' prefix applied to all designs acquired by the RLM ( Reichsluftfahrtministerium = Aviation Ministry) after the new company formed in 1938 while the 'Bf' designation was kept for designs acquired before then. The Bf-108, Bf-109, and Bf-110 officially kept the 'Bf' designation throughout tge War.
In reality the Hurricane (being less able than the Spitfire) concentrated on attacking the bombers, while the more advanced Spitfires attacked the 109s.
But the “Battle of Britain” is somewhat of a myth. Britain was saved from invasion, not by the so-called “Battle of Britain” air battle, but by the Royal Navy which was immensely more powerful than the German navy. As the earlier Norway campaign proved.
@@bobsakamanos4469they didn't have the means to pursue a successful Sea Lion .
Even if they had air superiority, the RN would have had a field day . The Kriegsmarine knew this , and were mightily relieved when Adolf got bored and looked Eastward.
@@bobsakamanos4469 what happened to it ? Didn't get past the mock up stage ?
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In Finnish Airforce had ten Hurricanes at whole war era they got 5.5 air win. The Morane Saulnier MS 406 was better, but suffered technical flaws.
12 Hurricane MK1 and one war booty MK IIb. One MK1 crash Norway before reached FInland.
HC-452 are still exist.
Poland had ordered both Hurricane I and MS 406 for evaluation prior to Sept. 1 1939. The first Hurricane I was supposedly at the pier in Gdynia on Sept. 1. All knowledge of what happened to it was lost.
Poland also was doing advanced testing on their own modern low wing monoplane the PZL P.50
Jeez, even the Fokker D21 did much better
@@zenger74 World record. 6 bombers down in 4 minutes by D21. Nearly same top speed.
@@jarikinnunen1718 the Finnish pilots made better use of them than the Dutch airforce, ironically
Robert Copland worked with Cam.
How significant was the Hurricaine as an expeditionary fighter/bomber/recon air asset. Easy to repair and maintain far from home, on land or sea.
The radial engine of FW190 and US models was more appropriate to this role than the highly strung Merlin.
English pilots said the hurricane was a easy aeroplane to fly perhaps this Canadian just is not up to it
Finnish pilots said, that Hurricane was easy to fly, but it was like there be rubber band between stick and control surface.
Well it’s like cars or anything mechanical. Some can operate them without a problem and others find it a nightmare. The way of the world 🌎 isn’t it
@@bobsakamanos4469 like all things it’s horses etc
all that hand fabrication and assembly… it’s a wonder they even finished the prototype, let alone supply an entire air force in quantity.
Bf 110 actually was faster than early Hurricanes
fighter on fighter engagement for the battle of britain was slightly in the Germans favour
It looks so old and ungainly - like a biplane with the roof (upper wing) removed for maintenance.
Pretty sure the Mk2 Hurricane never mounted 12 !!!! Maachine guns ... lolz
Would be withdrawn from the Far East and Pacific. It was getting outclassed and shot out of the sky. Hagigrapy and cheerleading ended in the late 50s. Thanks!
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I know that 20mm cannons were unsuccessfully trialed in 19 sqn Spitfire Mk1's in 1940 and I believe the problem was the ammunition feed during high G manouvres exacerbated by the beautifully thin Spitfire wing but why weren't they trialed in the much deeper and more accommodating wing of the Hurricane until after 1940?
They could have done great slaughter amongst the hordes of Heinkels, Dorniers and Junkers that were essentially proof against .303 rounds.