Hawker Tempest - Britain's Apex Fighter
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2023
- The Hawker Tempest was a British fighter that saw action in the closing stages of the Second World War, where it proved to be a match against Germany's latest designs, earning it a place in history as one of the best piston-powered fighter aircraft ever made.
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00:04 History
15:24 Opinion and Conclusion
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Conclusion:
- The British Grenadiers Fife and Drum
Sources
- Tempest Squadrons of the RAF - By Chris Thomas
- Typhoon and Tempest Aces of World War 2 - By Chris Thomas
- 2nd Tactical Air Force Volume 1- 3 - By Christopher Shores & Chris Thomas
- Hawker Typhoon, Tempest and Sea Fury - By Kev Darling
- Profile Publications Number 197 - The Hawker Tempest I-VI - By Francis K. Mason
- Tempest V vs Fw 190D-9 - By Robert Forsyth
- The Secret Horsepower Race - By Calum E. Douglas
- Several other sources like aircraft manuals and tests
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Sorry for the long wait for this video, things will pick up now, once again. Next will be a Japanese aircraft, one that is less known. Until then, thank you for watching.
Ki-46 maybe ? :D
@@smigoltime I could name 5 very important and widely used Japanese aircraft that that don't get the recognition they deserve.
Eg.Ki45 Toryu and Ki 44 Shoki fighters.
@@rodneypayne4827 G3M and G4M, H6K and H8K, Ki-45 and Ki-46, Ki-44... yea
@@smigoltime ; Basically the entire War Thunder Japanese tech tree besides the Zero, Val and Kate.
I've been toying around with the "Dinah" idea for a while, but no, it will be far less known than the Ki-46! I don't think you've shot this one down in Warthunder!
This video leaves no stone unturned. Sixteen and a half minutes and just about every question I have about this aircraft has been answered. Well done.
David Fairbanks was my uncle. I thank you for this video, in the name of "The Terror of the Rhine"
In fact not only did the Tempest pilots manage to shooting down both the Me-262s and Ar-234s but one Tempest pilot Flg Off Geoffrey Walkington from RAF 222 squadron did manage to shot down a Heinkel he-162 from 3./jg1 on the 19 April 1945 he was the only Allied pilot to be credited with a He-162 kill of WW2.
The jets had a speed of 500mph at sea level (520 for me 262) the tempest with its fancy 150PN fuel 400mph. I think this just gets down to the Luftwaffe being out numbered and it’s air fields constantly patrolled. A He 162 almost certainly shot down a Tempest so the score is about even. It was a fast powerful aircraft for sure but it lacked the two stage inter cooled supercharger of the Griffon spitfire or the up coming Ta 152 or Fw 190D12/13
Most of the German jet fighters, V1 & V2 were assembled by (work to the death) slave labor. Under horrific inhuman conditions.
Other thing, jet engines were slow to pickup speed. If the pilot was not trained and most weren’t, they’d get shot down. Large number of 262s were shot down while landing. But that’s my limited 2 cents.
I don't find shooting down a 162 impressive or amazing at all considering the Nazis wanted Hitler Youth to fly them.
It was probably the easiest kill of the war
A teenage pilot story also shot down in a He 162 ruclips.net/video/xmJqjx9VVKM/видео.html
Aphex fighter😂😂!? British rustbucket
Camm designed the Typhoon wingmin line with a NACA report of 1938 which stated that laminar-flow wungs had no benefit over traditional shapes. But a year later it was noticed that turbulence in NACA's windtunnel was affecting the results of aerofoil tests. The efficiency of some of the aerofoil shapes were wrong and NACA put out a revised report with the efficency figures corrected. But it was now too late for a redesign of the Typhoon. Source: Aeroplane, December 2021.
😮😮😮
A man of Camm's experience should have known better than to trust NACA data.
Camm also designed thick wings on the Typhoon despite knowing it was the reason for the Hurricane's poor performance. He was a stubborn man and poor project manager who lost some good engineers as a result.
For those not familiar with the Typhoon, the structural problem was resolved with "fishplate" strengtheners on the rear fuselage.
Later production models also had larger area Tempest tailplanes, and a four blade propeller.
AFAIK the Sabre engine could set on fire on start up and there had to be fire extinguishers on standby.
The info on the thick chord wing was interesting. It was of course similar to the slower Hurricane.
Sidney Camm and his Hawkers team were tops imho!
It was actually solved with the redesign and strengthening of the mass balance unit for the elevators, which was the cause of flutter and failure. One broke while a Typhoon was taxying and that's how they found it. The fishplates were a "belts and braces" fix until they found the cause.
The engine used a Coffman starter. Pilots had to use the correct amount of fuel prime. Too little prime needed too many start attempts also risking fire.
Pilots died long after the fix was made available, the squadrons had to find the significant down-time to do the remedial work and sometimes the war work took precedence, the pilots were in basic terms expendable.
Camm blamed the Hawker aerodynamicists for the thick wing, they assured him that there was no aerodynamic drawback with a thick aerofoil based on some confused research studies. I was privileged to hear Bee Beamont give an inspiring test pilot talk, he said the RAF and air ministry wanted the Typhoon replacement to have a wing just like the Spitfire’s. R.J. Mitchell’s inspired mid 1930s best guess worked really well and they wanted it repeated.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 so why did cam insist on putting a wing a 19% thick wing on the typhoon same as the hurricane. The only difference is that hurricane was Clark Y and typhoon NACA 2219 according to the incomplete guide to airfoil usage. This is thicker than Sunderland flying boat
Camm based thenwing on an erroneous NACA report on laminar-flow wings which wasn't corrected until too late for a redesign.
Just 2 weeks ago I was standing right next to a Tempest MK2 that will soon be airworthy. It will be the only one flying in the world. Big and beautiful bird! It's at the KF Center for Excellence, in Kelowna British Columbia Canada. They also have a de Havilland Mosquito, one of 4 flying worldwide.
I read that somebody is working to make airworthy even a TempestV with the Napier Sapre..
@@tonykeith76 This one?
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Actually there's as also a mk2 at Sywell airfield in England. Ot is currently having its engine test runs. It should fly later this year. . Making it 2 airworthy tempest 2s.
@TonyKeith76 last I heard there is only one complete tempest 5 and that I'd a static display in the RAF museum london. . There is a typhoon being slowly restored to flight at Duxford England
The KF Tempest has a P&W 2800 engine in it so technically it isn't a "real" Mk2. They did that because of the lack of Centaur engines.
I liked very much the archive pictures, especially that of the great Pierre Closterman with his Grand Charles. Great video!
Many years ago I knew a former RAF pilot who was one of the first to fly the Typhoon when it entered service. His squadron had been told about the shortcomings of the aircraft and the 'Do Not Exceed' speed in a dive. Being a bit of a lad, he wanted to see what happened if he did.
He woke up in hospital with multiple injuries and his commander informed him that, due to the known tail weakness plus the 'compressability' problem, his aircraft had shaken itself to bits and he was recovered from the wreck that consisted of the engine, it's mounting frame and what was left of the cockpit. Everything behind the seat and both wings were gone! Needless to say he was given a desk to fly for the rest of the war!
I have it on good authority that loss of the tail affects flight characteristics.
;)
He crashed into the ground at over 600mph and ... he woke up in hospital?
Did you know: there's no such word as "gullible" in the dictionary?
That’s a bit of a stretch.
I don’t think too many would buy that one.
The Hawker 'family' of fighter planes really begins with the Fury, Fury II, and High-Speed Fury biplanes.
A revision of this aircraft led to the monoplane Hurricane, with parallel Henley and Hotspur (a turret fighter). The Hurricane was replaced with the Typhoon and the parallel Tornado, which trialled some major improvements, both of these fed into the first Typhoon II and Tempests. The last planes in this family are the smaller Fury and Sea Fury.
The next design to fly was the entirely new Hawker Hawk jet, with the Sea Hawk being the more successful design, flying into the 1970s with the Indian Navy.
The probelm with Camm was that it took him 10 years between the Fury Monoplane and a front line fighter (Tempest). That's a loooong time in a period of rapid wartime aviation changes.
In the book "I fought you from the skies" by Willi Heilman who was a FW 190 pilot on the wester front during WWII feared seeing the Tempest. He was moved to the Dora model after they were supplied, Squadron 54 the "Green Hearts". Novotny was his Co. until he was moved to the Me262 and Willi became the Sq. leader. The only fighters he and his mates hated were the P-47, later model Spitfires and Tempests. P-51's were easy meat, P-38's were also and Typhoons included but the other three were the only ones they hated to go up against. The Tempest, although in small numbers, was a considerable enemy.
Hollywood can overshadow history, but great history can't be outshadowed
Thank you! Informative and the artworks cool.
Of course as an englishman the Spit flows in our veins...as an aviation enthusiast it's great to see
the Tempest get the recognition it deserves.
My favourite video, of yours, was the one on the Dewoitine D.520. It deserves the publicity
At last !!, an easy to understand , and informative video about The Hawker Tempest , and why it came to be , and why the MK5 preceded the MK2
This is the first video of yours I have watched and you did well. You are not a native English speaker but your accent is confident, authoritative and very impressive. I look forward to more of your content!
Thank you!
I believe the Hawker Sea Fury, as used in Korea, proved itself to be the pinnacle of piston engined fighters.
What a beauty
Loved the Tempest and the Sea Fury was one of the most impressive aeroplanes I've ever seen for a prop fighter.. Blisteringly fast, a real gem.
I’m building a HELLER 1/72 HAWKER TEMPEST, it’s almost ready for the airbrushing… also displaying it on a airfield DIORAMA…
Glad I watched this…
CHRIS from OHIO 🇺🇸
Sounds cool!
Nice 👍
I have always wondered about the difference between a Tempest and a Typhoon.. Thanks for clearing that up ♥️ Great upload
What an absolutely excellent presentation, really enjoyed this and surprisingly learned some info on these aircraft i didnt know, thought id heard the full history but thus has been an educational and enjoyable experience.
Great video thanks, special compliments to the narration. Great pacing and content. So many videos have crazy fast voiceovers. Yours is perfect. ❤❤
Solid video. Enjoyed the parts on its combat history and how it was organized into wings and such.
Thank you.
This is an excellent video. Meticulous details and tremendous photograph research make this both educational and entertaining.
Been waiting on a new video. Your videos are the best overview of WWII aircraft on RUclips I think.
Thank you! Hopefully, I will pick up the pace once again. Aiming for a new video in two weeks time.
Brilliant video, simple, understandable. Very enjoyable.
What an excellent comparison video... I loved the Tiffy.... until I watched this...
Great videos mate. Love the way you present them.
Thank you!
Very informative and well produced video. Thanks.
Don't forget the changes to the tail as well as the chin intake and the wings and engine types.
That massive prop, awesome.
Very enjoyable video. 🇬🇧
You mentioned everything I said. 👍🏻
Thank you!
Tempest , Sea Fury, Bearcat and Mustang have been the peak of piston engine fighters, the end of an era
Great video, sir.
“British Grenadiers” from “Barry Lyndon” as outro?
Love it.
Thank you for this. I see so little data and pictures of the Tempest, this is refreshing. They just would not give up on the Tempest.
Another great episode, on an interesting aircraft, great graphics too. Looking forward to the next one.😎👍🏻
Love this style video! Gives into interesting info about the wing and Nguni more in depth than anyone else! Love you content new sub!
Thank you and welcome!
Happy to see extra art in these videos!
Another great video. As a Brit, its really great to hear the correct terminology "British and commonwealth forces". At no point in the war to Britain stand alone.
Thank you!
The Typhoon/Tempest/Fury family of great planes...super awesome some great pics shown here too.
Very informative and great artwork. I have really enjoyed watching it in conjunction with the video of the Typhoon. Although all designed as fighter aircraft, in my mind the Typhoon, Tempest, FW190 and Thunderbolt all paved the way to the devastating effect that fighter-bombers / ground attack fighters can have. Now for something on the Sea Fury, please!
Thank you for the video, the engine of this aircraft was a remarkable engineering achievement, so powerful; really appreciate your work and this channel 👍
Thank you! I can only imagine having 2,000 hp available on single-engine aircraft, but I suspect it would get me killed quite fast!
@@AllthingsWW2 what is the last sequence of the video from?? It seems to be a pc game. How is it called?
@@theartofflying3108Warthunder is the name of the game
Very excellent production! You did great and accurate honor to the Tempest. Lovely brutish-looking aircraft. Cheers.
French resistance pilot Pierre Closterman loved it. It's like a powerful Staffordshire dog of the sky. Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video! I’m familiar with both the Typhoon and Tempest, but didn’t know that info! Thanks again!
Thank you!
Thank you for this video always love your content! Hopefully the brief mention of the FW190 D-9 means it will get a video in the future I think it's probably my favorite fw190 variant and possibly my fav WW2 aircraft although the ki-61 is a close second
Thank you! Yes, the Dora will have it's own video, for sure. It's a hard aircraft to talk about without going a bit more deeply about the issues Germany had with materials and the consequences for engine development.
Pierre Closterman was a Frenchman who flied in the RAF, achieving a large number of aerial victories. His biography contains a lot of interesting storied about the Tempest aircraft, which he flew.
Le Grande Charles
"The Big Show" (Le Grand Cirque), awesome book !
Closterman was actually born in Brazil (Curitiba), so at least technically he is Brazilian :-). Le Grand Cirque was the book that good me hooked into aviation, 40-odd years ago :-).
*flew. Irregular word. English can be such an annoying language, right? ;)
@@stickandruddermfl It's true he was born in Brazil but he was only a French citizen.
The Typhoon was a superb at low level and was a brilliant ground attack plane. My late Grandad witnessed a "pack" of them attack a German tank column. Ge said the noise was as if the gates of hell had been opened up! Incredible stuff
Even though Camm had designed the Tiffy as a high altitude interceptor.
Love the William Tell, subtly playing in the background.😊
Fantastic video!!! Love it and thanks!
Great video.
Thanks.
The artwork is brilliant too.
Thank you!
always wondered what happened to the other Mks - now I know! great video
Thank you!
New Zealander Sqdn Ldr Bob Spurdle seen at 10:26 clashed with 8th AF USAAF P.51 Mustangs whilst at Vokel
His book (published in 1980) called "The Blue Arena" explains how 'trigger happy' P.51s bounced the Tempests
"On Sortie 551 some USAAF Mustangs jumped us. Enraged, I turned on my particular tormenter scared him $hitless by firing bursts on one side then on the other while he twisted turned, he was totally helpless against the far superior Tempest.
Formating alongside I shook my fist at the stupid jerk (wanker) then I zoomed away.
We should have hacked a few down to teach them aircraft recognition. We were sick of their trigger-happy stupidities."
That's just one part of one of the chapters from "The Blue Arena" originally published in 1980 (still available in paperback
Yes it happened frequently .
Brilliantly done documentary, full marks.
Excellent and balanced summary of an interesting family of aircraft.
Thank you!
french Tempest Ace Pierre Closterman recounts in his book "The Great Circus" that a Spitfire actually managed to shoot down an intruding low-flying Arado Ar-234 flying below, putting his Spitfire in a steep dive. Afterwards the Spitfire was battered, with popped rivets on the wings, but did much to boost the Spitfire side in the friendly rivalry beetween Spitfire and Tempest pilots, Spit pilots joking, that''s something you've never been able to achieve with your lead sleds (meaning the Tempests). Another good-natured joke was that the landing speed of the Tempest was higher than the cruising speed of the Spitfire :)
It should be noted that the 'outdated' Typhoon with it's excellent low altitude performance and high ordinance capacity played a significant role during and after D-DAY in the ground attack role whilst the Tempests were reserved as V1 killers. Thus proving that you can teach an old dog new tricks, and the demarcation of fighter / fighter-bomber aircraft into specialised roles which continued into the 21st century.
The Tempest was undoubtedly the king of the British WW2 dog fighters and a superb, often forgotten, aircraft. Thank you for such an excellent review.
Yay!! I have missed you. Been going through withdrawals since your last video on the Hs-123 a couple months ago.
Ahah! Thank you! Well, I will pick up the pace now, hopefully. Next, Japan, and then a smaller country!
Looking forward to your next video.
Great video, thank you. Just subscribed
Thank you! Outstanding presentation.
Thank you!
learn something new every day, great video
Thank you!
Great video: Lots of good information on the long development of the plane that to me is one of the finest, most handsome fighters ever made...the Sea Fury.
That artwork is lovely, a really nice piece
Thank you!
Very interesting video about one of the great fighters of WW2. And thanks for naming Pierre Clostermann, I still remember his book "Le Grand Cirque" (The Big Show) fondly.
First class presentation and yes, the artwork is superb.
Thank you!
Excellent stuff bro
Enjoyed it, well done.
Very well done, my friend.
Excellent report good work.
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
great report !
Hopefully gonna be a one or two airworthy Mk2 Tempest's soon.
They had Tempests at my local WW2 airfield RAF Bradwell Bay during the war.
The Tempest was such an overlooked fighter plane!..I’m so glad you made a video on it!..if you looked quickly at the MkII and the Seafury you would think they were the same!…I would have loved to see how the Seafury would have faired against Axis aircraft…in my opinion I believe it was the best mass produced fighter plane ever made…the Bearcat would be a very close second!…the only plane that I think could have given them both a run for their money would be the Goodyear built F2G Corsair…
No allied radial plane could match the Spitfire or the Tempest even after the MkIX Focke Wulf went to liquid cooled engines
Great documentary, quite thorough & informative. Great to have a picture of great pilot & author ( The Big Show) Pierre Closterman. Read his book in high school , great reading. Interesting to note that the Tempest was the best V-1 destroyer.
Interesting and informative video - thanks.
The Napier Sabre engine. What a MONSTER!
Agree, but to many moving parts......
@@Joop.23-2-63 TOO many!...spelling mate!🙄
I don't think Pierre Closterman had a high opinion of Fairbanks. Clostermans book "The Big Show" is very enlightening on several levels. Cheers mate.
Another great video. The Tempest is largely the unsung fighter of WWII. Just a point of clarification regarding 486 squadron: the pilots were mostly all Kiwis and started with the RNZAF in New Zealand, they joined a RAF squadron when they arrived in the UK, usually after further training in the Empire training scheme in Canada. The squadron should read:- No. 486 (NZ) squadron RAF. this also applies to 485 (NZ) (spitfire), 487 (NZ) (Mosquito) and 75 (NZ) bomber (Wellington and Lancaster). Of those 75 squadron post war transferred to the RNZAF only disbanding in the 2000s when the Labour government scrapped our combat wing of RNZAF as a cost cutting measure! Keep up the good work mate.
Does that mean that many of the NZ pilots were fairly new to frontline aircraft when the were posted to the Tempest squadron? Compared to Harvard trainers, the Tempest would have been a monster to tame! They were very brave lads!
You put 485 instead of 486 for the Tempest Squadron, 485 was Spitfires.
BTW I don't think the photo at 13:30 is of 486.
Thank you for the correction. I will further look into this issue so I won't make the same mistake in the future. About the photo at 13:30, this image is in Wikipedia on the page of No. 486 (NZ) Squadron.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._486_Squadron_RNZAF#/media/File:486SqnVolkers1945.JPG
@@AllthingsWW2 I looked through "The Wild Winds", a history of 486 Squadron by Paul Sortehaug, and the photo is of 486 but was taken at Kestrup in June 1945.
@@RobBremner Sorry Rob, a typo. It should have been 486.
For an evocative account of the Tempest MK Vs in action, a must-read is French Ace Pierre Clostermann's great book, The Big Show, which no less than William Faulkner said was one of the great WWII books.
Great tip, thanks!
Loved that book!
It's a fantastic read, jam packed with interesting historical information.
Pierrepont Clostermann D.S.O D.F.C.
Than you for a great video and report. My Uncle, Sq Leader Arthur Vincent "Gus" Gowers, was shot down in a Tempest during the mass attack on the German ship "Munsterhausen", I think in Cherbourg, carrying Nuclear materials for the war effort. It is thought that Churchill gave an order for it's destruction "at any cost". I have more details in the book written about his life by Sylvia Barnard (my late sister) "never a dull moment".
Oh hello. Just saw this, you picked up a new sub. Nice work.
Excellent description of a superb and underrated aircraft.
The Typhoons were nicknamed " Robson's" due to their ability to catch fire on startup.
Yes poor data from NACA meant the design was hamstrung from the start.
However as always the British made the Typhoon into a superb ground attack aircraft with a mighty punch.
Beaumont heaped praise on the Tempest when he flew it and Pierre Clostermann's book The Big Show is well worth reading.
Thank you! Yes, I loved The Big Show, such an entertaining book. I never got around to reading anything written by Beaumont, unfortunately. Now my next one is going to be "Reach for the Sky." The story of Douglas Bader should've been something I read a long time ago.
@@AllthingsWW2 Beamont gives a description of testing the Tempest in " Testing Years" amongst other aircraft including TSR2 which was way ahead of the opposition at the time.. I have just started reading "Wings on my Sleeve" by Eric " Winkle" Brown. Another wartime survivor and with a tribute comment from Bill Humble ( test pilot) who is in a famous Tempest picture flying from Langley. Don't forget the name is Beamont as it is frequently mis spelled.
“Against the Sun” is Roland Beamont’s recounting of his experience of both Typhoon and Tempest. He rated it very highly.
Not 'Robsons' but 'Ronsons' after the Ronson cigarette lighter.
@@silasfatchett7380
Yes thanks a typo on my part.
Tempest my beloved
And from the Axis? D-9?
Great feature thanks
To the end question. My answer is that it might not be piston powered,. But the Super Tucano shows that there are more potential in the prop driven planes. The Tempest would have deserved to get rid of the big lump for an turboprop engine. But if it had one the weight balance would probably cause an so dramatic change that the original design would need an complete workover.
Sea Fury deserves its own video.
Great stuff!
Thank you! The Sea Fury is indeed a great aircraft!
Kermit Weeks is in the process of restoring a Tempest Mk V to airworthy condition. Importantly, he has a Napier Sabre engine with next to no hours on it. There are a number of videos about this on his channel.
Very nice informative video 👏 great subject matter
Excellent video you really know your subject welldone
Very informative thanks.
I love the greatest generation. They design, redesign, test, build and deploy the most advanced fighter to battle in a few years. Now, it takes them 20 years.
like the custom artwork!! 🔥
Thank you!
I still love the mighty SPITFIRE as seen in the 1944 movie set in the town of Chillingbourne.
Solid, informative piece about a great aircraft. A more detailed reference to some of those who flew and maintained this aircraft would complete this effort.
Another excellent video. Art work is also excellent.
Thank you!
Very interesting, great video.
Thank you!
Old Sydney Camm finally got it right with the Tempest II and Fury fighters, although he borrowed heavily from other successful designs.
Nice video hard to find info on typhoon/tempest
In the mid 60's a Tempest was in the former Sky Fame museum at Staverton Airport located between Gloucester and Cheltenham. It was impressive, very high nose. Wonder where it is now?
Thank’s very interesting video.
Thank you!
Obrigado por mais este vídeo.
The radial-engined Tempest was the true "way forward" for the type as it did away with the Sabre engine that could be temperamental and it paved the way for the Sea Fury, one of the "super props".