The Ju 87 was not an 'instrument or terror" though, its accuracy (better than 15m) meant it didn't cause collateral damage and spared civilians. The Ju 87 was maligned as a terror weapon to hide the fact that here was a very effective tactical bomber no other air force had. There were probably occasions German aircraft attacked French military columns of trucks heading to the front as refugees fled on the same road in the opposite direction and this was used as the basis for the claim.
I was thinking of your post and thought of something else great that the Stuka gave the world. It gave dead Nazis towards the middle and the end of World War II. The Americans have a Stuka-like plane in their enormous Arsenal. (please note the capital A since their military is the largest) They have a close ground support giant gun with a plane attached to it. It was made in the mid 1970s and is a hideous flying gun of death. It has no siren on the plane aspect of it. But the giant gun, when fired makes a horrific buzzing roar as it unleashes enemy cleansing from above. If you hear the horrible roar more than a few seconds, you were not the target, or the pilot of the gun wanted to give a warning shot to watch the enemy squirm. The plane is the A-10 Thunderbolt II. American President Trump ordered new wings put on the planes to allow it to fly deep into the future. The new designation for the even uglier flying gun of death with a plane attached is called the Super Thunderbolt! I think it has a nickname called the Wild Bore, or something to that nature, because it is such an ugly configuration. But death is supposed to be ugly, especially when going against an enormous flying gun with a pilot itching to push the trigger. I love those cowboys and cowgirls in the United States of America. I am glad we are on the same side.
@indridcold8433 wow!!! But, who are this mythical nazis ? I never heard about some naziland... maybe you got something wrong? honestly, I was looking for something like this on maps, on the globe, but I can't find it anywhere
" Stuka Pilot " By Oberst Hans Ulrich Rudel , is one of The Best Aviation books I have read ! That Man was a Lesson , in how to overcome the odds to become a successful Combat Pilot. Cheers
Republic Aviation in the 1960s, interviewed the great Stuka pilot Hans Rudel to get his ideas before designing the Thunderbolt II (Warthog). Since he was the preeminent close air support dive bomber pilot extant, he was chosen to give designers the best shot at developing an aircraft with the qualities necessary.He said survivability was critical so they built the titanium bathtub in which the pilot sat, redundant flight systems, an extremely tough aircraft and finally, the gatling gun. Investigate it yourself.
@@spaceman081447 i did not mean to imply that the aircraft was not built around the GaU. It just happened to be last on the list of its many qualities in my comment. I said finally, the Gatling gun only to highlight the systems installed. have a good friend Lt. Colonel Mike Stock who flew 3 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was not aware of the history himself and like so many others, was unaware of the exploits of Hans Rudel. Look him up.
The Yolanthe was a reliable and very easy aircraft to fly from all written accounts. Purpose built to be a front line mobil aerial artillery unit, it suffered from poor tactics employing them as a forward tactical and at times a strategic bomber. It was nearly outdated by the time it reached service but was very much appreciated by ground units when they showed up to stem breakthroughs even towards the end of the war. Fun fact, little more than 600 were ever operational at the same time throughout its production life. Stuka is was and always will be an iconic aircraft.
My father was in the Famous New Zealand 20th Battalion in the 2nd World War. "The 20th" as they liked to be called was probably the most highly decorated Battalion in the entire British Empire; this came at great cost; the 20th suffered 397 KIA. My Father hated the Stuka which had stalked the NZ Division from where they were giving the Italians a hiding alongside their Greek "Cobbers", after smacking the Italians, Germany had to come to Mussolini's rescue. And then the Germans started .... well the rest is history... my dear dad said the Stuka was the scariest thing he had faced in WW2...he fought in Greece, Crete, North Africa and Italy right up to Trieste! When they (Brits, Aussies, Greeks, Kiwis were getting smashed by the Germans, my dad said as soon as you heard the Stukas coming everybody just bailed out of the Troop Trucks as soon as possible; my dad ended up in an open latrine, after the first bomb went off he lifted his head only to stick it under again as the next Stuka came. He had to wear that uniform for another 2 Weeks before being able to wash it.....and then Welcome to Crete!
I was Fascinated by the Stuka as a boy ! My Dream was to have a Cox 0.49 powered " Stuka " , it was made of plastic , I thought that with those wheel pants , gull wings , pointy nose and long " green house " it was Intriguingly Beautiful ! 😉😁😎
Built a Super Stuka Kit, 2 actually they came with a fully carved fuselage, Balsa in 2 pieces It was the most beautiful thing I ever saw, as I applied many coats pf sealer sanding between coats it took on a silvery hue. I was flying F,F. super scale. The tail way too weak.
I remember the Cox Stuka... it even came with a "bomb" it could drop... you refilled it with baby powder. I never got the Stuka though lol... I had the Purple Cox Dunebuggy... my brother had a crazy looking Cox car with a propeller in the back. Man... those were the days. I can still smell the fuel and hear them! 👍🏽
I had the Cox Spitfire. Worked a summer at my Dads office and paid in instalments. I never did get it to fly right. Think it was a bit under powered with the .049….
I had the same impression about how large a plane it was. However, reading Rudel's book, with an expert touch it was highly maneuverable, except in the all-important area of outright speed. And another impression; sitting in the cockpit, it feels like being on top of the world---the visibility is incredible all around from such a high perch, including through the window in the floor. From the pilot's point of view it must have felt very powerful indeed.
Very pleasantly surprised to see famed British fighter / test pilot Eric Brown talking in this. He flew 487 types of aircraft so knew his stuff and would of course have flown the Stuka, if not multiple models of it.
He testet all important planes of the luftwaffe. And in his experience with the Ju87 he said, that it was the only dive bomber in the WW2, in which you can realise an stabile 90 degree Dive without any problems and with good aiming conditions in the dive. Responsable for thie good diving performance are good diving brakes and the good diving automatic and the undercarriage.
Brown didn’t always get it right. In this case he was asked about the rear armament of the planned Ju 187 and its drop down tail was not much of an improvement since the gun was too weak. In fact the MG151 canon were vastly more powerful and the drop down tail and fun much lower depressions of fire were possible. Remote power drive and computerised aiming for target lead, ballistics and wind correction proved highly effective on the B-29. -The replacement for the Ju 87 was in fact selected to be the Me 210 and Me 410. With dive brakes and the sSTUVI 5B bomb site it was a good replacement Unfortunately, the aircraft had stability problems which delayed production by a year and a half to almost 2 years. This meant that the production system for the Me 110 had to be ramped up instead. It was then too late to switch back to the M4 10 when it was perfected.
The Italians used both the B and D versions of the Stuka. Used by them for land and maritime attacks. Independent of others they learned to skip bomb with it. This is an effective technique against shipping.
If you want to see one up close, there is one hanging from the ceiling in Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry. It was captured in North Africa in WWII. I believe there is a British Spitfire hanging next to it. They also have the U505 boat on display.
+@lancethompson3431 The Stuka in Chicago still wears its original WW2 paint also. Years ago, it was dropped during a move and the wheels or landing gear needed repair. I think the wheels were replaced with units from a T-6 trainer.
When I was a kid I built and painted 1/72 scale models of the most well known WW2 warbirds, but the Stuka stood out. Just epic looking in 3d. Then probably a toss up between the P-61 Black Widow and Lancaster bombers for 2cnd place.
I couldn't imagine being a dive bomber pilot, no matter which side you were on. Pushing the stick forward with AA rising up to meet you must have felt like suicide at times. I really wouldn't want to be the rear gunner looking up at the sky and wondering if the pilot and plane were still good.
They eventually got a automatic pullout system. From about 1942 the Germans introduced the Lofte 7 level computing bomb sight and the StuVi 5B dive and shallow dive bombing sight. These were accurate enough to replace the Ju 87 in all but the most demanding situations (mainly used in Ju 88). The Me 210 Me 410 with dive brakes and StuVi 5B was supposed to replaced the Ju 87 but technical problems prevented mass production till it was too late. The StuVi 5B could be used on the Ju 87 but only bigger aircraft like the Ju 88, He 177, Me 410 got the BZA computer to allow bombing from angles as shallow as 22 degrees.
The aviators had a gentlemen agreement. You never shot at a man in a parachute. All sides honoured this code, save a very rare few, which were taken out by their own side when they were dropping in a parachute from being shot down. All the aviators knew that their jobs were insanely risky. When man ejected and was in a parachute, they would often salute their enemy that shot them down as the enemy waved their wings and saluted back. When a man was falling I na parachute, they were no longer an aviator. The pilots were trained to fight other aviators. There were different times, back then. I think today an enemy pilot would likely shoot at a pilot falling in a parachute. There is no honour among enemies anymore. I think that all ended at the end of World War II.
perfect example of hollywood brainwash, any war back whatever time is false shown and believed, Heroism ? fck off , i want to live, so i choose maximum effect with the smallest amount of risk to myself the troops , anybody involved on my side . There are no Heroes in War , just people trying to overcome other people, and do not whitewash "Heroes" that had the choice of beeing executed by the own officer or fight any enemy they are told to.....
@@indridcold8433 Это было свойственно во времена первой мировой войны, когда самолетов было мало, летчики были в основном интелегентные люди с чувством чести и достоинства... Их учили этому кодексу чести в соответствующих летных школах.
My grandfather gave me a Stuka siren when I was a Young lad. I have installed it in every vehicle I have had since my first one. I drove the siren with the motor from a 12 volt hobby turntable to make clay pottery. I had that combination for about 30 years. It just now broke late last year. I removed the siren and trying to find a different way to drive it. I can not find the hobby turntable anywhere. It was perfect. It had variable speed, worked with 13.8 volts without issues, though it was a 12 volt motor. I want to install it again. But I have to find a motor I can install on the bracket that I made to mount the siren. I will have it installed b before the end of the year.
How powerful is the broken motor ? Could you use the electrical motor of a fresh air fan blower motor out of a car ? Using the resistors that are in the heater plenum ? You would need a complete donor vehicle, a derelict, to do it right. And a good rebuilt replacement,not heavily used,blower motor. Plus a fair bit of cutting away and fabrication. With internet communication,there are of course manufacturers of 12 volt motors you can contact. Different shapes and power ratings. Depends how much money they would cost brand new I suppose.
@@paulmanson253 Plenty of Automobile wrecking yards pull the blower motors out of wrecked vehicles. I'm pretty sure one from a vehicle less than 10 years old will work fine. The issue with altering the speed control in some of the newer brushless DC motors is that they often don't use the old multiple resister method. Now they generally use a digital speed control... and that's the part that would cost the most. An arduino could be used to do the job with some additional components.
@@jamesw.6931 Probably along the same lines as why I still want a Cold War era Air Raid Siren, or a Fog Horn from the 1700-1800s. They are unusual and kinda neat, despite their actual purpose. The sirens from the Ju-87 are like a unicorn today. A loud, ear-defiling unicorn. Most people hearing a horn of any kind, often react in the same way... with mild shock, contempt, avarice and then forced disregard (They get a jump-scare, they look around and glare at the source, flip the bird while shouting and then openly ignore as if nothing happened)
Yep! I saw one at a museum... once as a kid and once as a young adult. Both times I was in awe at how big the thing was compared to the other single engine aircraft of the time. I mean, it had to be big... especially the wings. Bombs aren't light.
@@zenoxenoo The Museum of Science and Industry, in Chicago I believe has one on display. I have been told that there are only two other surviving examples in the world.
I’m curious how do the defenders in the back not shoot off their own tails. Is there a spot in the linkage where you can’t fire the gun when it gets close to the tail like firing through the propeller type stoppage ?
The gun only fired past certain degree angles from the tail. The gunner could follow the enemy through the gun sight, but the gun would quit firing if it was within a close angle to the tial.
Something else you don't know about the "Stuka" is that "stuka" is not the name of any one aircraft, but is the *job description* of any/all dive bombers. The word "stuka" is a contraction of "sturz kampf bomber," meaning "diving battle bomber." It's like the term "flak," which stands for "flieger abwehr kanon," or "flyer defence cannon." (Yes, officials of the Third Reich really loved their abbreviations and acronyms.) Any dive bomber would be called "stuka" in German.
@@Vtwin60 Danke! I had only ever heard it called a "sturzkampfbomber" before, so that's what I went with. German is my fourth language, and it has gotten somewhat rusty since I left Europe some 28 years ago. There aren't that many chances to practice in Canada.😉
Thank you for using a title that doesn't presume those watching are all completely ignorant about the things they click on when they have an interest in the subject.
I have 2 bicycles that were made at the plant where Stukas were made in Austria. Made by many of the same prisoners that manufactured the planes they stayed and now being paid and given housing were just the few lucky ones to survive what was a dead end and painful situation. From planes to Bikes . Little history facts.
These 2 bikes are for sale if collectors of ww2 post war facts collectables . Styer Bikes , Austria when I learned of the background of these bikes I put them away. Till this video. Now for sale
No from planes to. Bikes and the planes and bikes were manufactured by Jewish slave labor workers during WW2 and after the war workers were paid and given a place to live during post war times that must have been difficult.
@@Normalhowaboutyou they are Steyr made in Austria both were last licensed in 1974. That's all I know besides the research what I read on the story behind these bikes.
Stuka was considered “obsolete” only because of its slow flying speed. But true dive bombers are never fast in level flight. The necessary compromises can’t do both jobs.
It's not like the B-52 were any good without fighter escorts either. Sometimes people just say stupid stuff without thinking. Aside from the very state of the art modern bombers, you would never want your bombers out alone.
Warsaw was never bombed, military and strategic targets within Warsaw were bombed. The Germans held back from city bombing. You were lucky if Stuka's attacked since they went for specific targets and caused limited collateral damage. Wielun was a case of mistaken identity. They bombed the wrong town. Still happens. Morning fog probably cased them to get lost.
I had a model kit when I was 6 and finished it with my dad's help. Once it had set I had run into the living room to show grandpa and he took one look and said he hated it. I was of course crushed and he added "yeah, but you never been underneath a Sixpack of them son." and went back to watching his TV show.
It's a pity he didn't tell you more in order to soften the blow but for so many ex-combatants they just would't talk about their experiences, it was too painful. I'll bet you still feel guilty - please don't, it wasn't your fault, neither was it his. Taking part in a war is awful and few people come out of it with jolly stories to tell.
Often Stukas used the "rolling attack" mode. So from a Stuka Group, always one squadron attacks, one was on the way (to the base or to the front area) and one was refueling and taking new bombs. So the squadron (by air superiority) on the front, let attack only one airplane after the other, throwing only ONE bomb per dive. Lets say there are 9 planes per squadron x 5 bombs and 1 minute per attack......and every squadron flys 5 sorties per day.....so nearly the hole day over the target area xy......was full of stukas, the sound, the bombs....
One of Germanys most well-known artists was a rear gunner on a Stuka. Joseph Beuys (1921-1986) had been a member of the Hitler Youth and went on to volunteer for the Luftwaffe. He remains reveered (as an artist) to this day. I guess Beuys will be Beuys!
the stuka was based on the supermarine spitfire designed in the late 1920's. MOD specs wanted a monoplane fighter capable of going at least 200mph so supermarine tried to make 1 and called it the spitfire. but it could only do 100mph and it needed to do 150mph to get to take off speed and every prototype they made crashed on take off killing the pilots. it had 2 crew. fixed undercarriege and gull wings as was almost identical to the stuka. no forward firing guns just rear firing and desighed to fly under enemy bombers and shoot at it from underneath. the defiant got chosen instead for that role as the spitfire was a total failure.it was supermarines 1st attempt at making a land based planes as they specilsed in sea planes. even the sptfire of WWII was a bit of a lemon and it wasnt till vickers bought out supermarine that the spitfire started to actualy work as intended. ME 109 pilots loved the spitfire as it was so easy to shoot down. during the battle of Britain only 10% of the fighters in fighter command was spitfires but they made up 90% of RAF fighter losses. my uncce was a fighter pilot during the battle of britain, he started on the hawker fury a bi plane and he said even that was better in a dog fight than the spit was. when he converted the the hurricane he loved it. when his squardon got swtiched to spitfires the whole squadron demanded to have their hurricanes back. prpably why the spitfire was retired as soon as WWII was over in Europe while the Huricane was still in service in the Asian theatre against Japan. some even fought in the Korean war. 1 spit pilot got lost and laned at a luftwaffe base by mistake. so Germany got their hands on an intact spit and experimented with it. they took out the merlin and put in a a 109 and found the 109 was 50mph slower and they put the 109 engine in the spit and it was 50mph faster. the prob with the spits till the mk IV when vickers took it over was it could not dive at full throttle or the wings broke off. it had to go to half throttle to turn or it stalled. only advantage it had was a faster climb rate. the hurricane was slower but could out turn the 109 with ease. USA also found out how bad the merlin was. the mustangs with merlin engies had a far shorter range and slower than the alinson engined mustangs. Avro used 2 rolls royce vulturs on the manchester but needed 4 merlins for the same plane when the renamed it lancaster. but they had to half the bomb load and range with the merlins fitted as well as having 2 more engines.
I wonder how it would have compared to our (the U.S.) dive bombers say at the battle of Midway, was it better and more accurate than a Dountless DB? I imagine those 37mm guns would have made a mess of just about any cargo ship as well as the Flight Deck of an Aircraft carrier.
Yes in fact it was far more accurate----the comparisons show accuracy of a few tens of meters for the Stuka, vs a whole football field for the next best (the Americans). The reason given in the comparison was that the Stuka was the only diver bomber capable of and optimized for true vertical dive-bombing in relative safety, with the highly effective and very advanced pull-out apparatus giving great confidence as well as the ability to concentrate to the very last minute on the target at a closer range than would have been possible for the Americans. The vertical angle and closer range being determinative and somewhat ironic in that the idea was shoved through by Udet, after witnessing the accuracy of American dive-bombers in a pre-war demonstration. Ultimately, all German bombers were required to be dive-bombing capable as a result, which possibly hampered their optimizing bombers for the strategic role.
Ju-87s were diving on stationary targets and certainly not without air superiority and not against the concentrated flak you would get from a naval convoy.
the stuka was a great idea, but development of the principle of pin-point bombing fell behind in germany. it simply could not live with the fighters the allies had. the stormovik had a similar task, but got more attention to staying alive over a battle field
Ju 87 were never supposed to operate deep behind enemy lines as they were forced to during the Battle of Britain. It was to act as mobile artillery near the front lines.
1) The first working jet engine was ground tested in 1937, but it was British. Let's all credit Sir Frank Whittle, just like Hans von Ohain did in his book. He was the inventor of the jet engine 2) The first German jet engine to fly was in fact Hans von Ohain's, but as we all know, if took many more years to make it decent. In fact th eMe 262 only flew at the end of 1944, but it was still a very unreliable jet engine, even by the end of the war, therefore useless for the time 3) Others had working jet engines by 1941, but they were considered pointless. Britain had jet aircraft in Belgium around 1941, but it would have been silly to potentially lose them to the enemy. The history of the jet engine is a bit more complex than the usual "Germans invented everything". On a side note, Hans Von Ohain had access to Sir Frank Whittle's patents as early as 1935. He also had full support and financial backing from Heinkel, whereas Whittle's was penniless and had no support. He first presented his idea for a jet engine to the British Air Ministry in 1929, but it was rejected, so he first patented his idea in 1930. If the British government backed Whittle's jet engine in 1929, Britain would have most certainly have had a (really) working jet engine before the beginning of the war. His engine ended up in the lethal MiG-15 in 1955, just to prove what it could have beeen. By the way, for a while Italians were thought to be the first ones to have a jet engine, until the German 1939 flight was unveiled to the general public. Also, perhaps the first concept of a working jet engine (I know it is a stretch) was the Stipa Caproni aircraft. If you want to learn more: Sir Frank Whittle's story: ruclips.net/video/gYmum__jULo/видео.html Stipa Caproni: ruclips.net/video/Pgtq9e7yGn8/видео.html
@@Dronescapes I knew that Sir Frank Whittle had ground tested the first jet engine and cannot understand why our Government didnt give him the backing he fully deserved for his ground breaking creation, then in 1939, Germany obviously got ahead with the first jet aircraft in the air, then they failed to exploit that advantage, possibly because Germany needed to fight a "short war" as it couldn't win a "long war", so further development of their jet fighter, would have just wasted time and resources, in the event of a short winnable war, (Germany didnt even "invent??" Blitzkrieg either, that come from the Allies towards the end of WW1, using air power and tanks, together, to by pass trench warfare) Obviously there would have been a number of risks transiting from piston engine aircraft to the as yet untried in combat jet engined aircraft, like, extra pilot training, obtaining the metals required for the jet engines, the skills of the jet engine manufacturers and ground crew, etc, and by the end of 1941, it was "game over" for Germany, as America and the Soviet Union could basically "out produce" Germany by quite a margin, Flying Fortresses, Liberty Ships and T34s are a "classic example" of that, meanwhile Germany had to waste vast resources on the Atlantic Wall too, while unlike America and Soviet Union, its factories, factory workers and their homes, were being bombed daily, so that ME262 really was "the last throw of the dice for Germany" (along with the V1 and V2, they were "FANTASTIC on paper but USELESS in reality") mind you the ME163 Komet, was "a pretty desperate" aircraft???? too, (if you call a wooden GLIDER shunted into the air by a rocket with 2 fuels that could dissolve the pilot in seconds, an "aircraft??") blimey, even German U Boats were basically WW1 tech too, O.K. so Germany had the 88mm and MG42, the FW190 was decent and the Bismarck and Tirpitz, would have been far better, IF they had been aircraft carriers, "yeah, Germany invented EVERYTHING?? in WW2, but MOST of what they invented??? in WW2 didnt do what it was supposed to do" lets face it, Germany had HUGE difficulty, in shooting down, the unarmed "Wooden Wonder" that was the De Haviland Mosquito, that their single engine fighters couldnt catch, its a good job that the British "invented flying wood" isnt it.
The first jet engines were clunky and had relatively low output. When the Spitfire began production with Merlin engines there was virtually no difference in output. It took a few more years of research and development before jets could be considered as superior to piston engines.
The first German jet engines sucked because they lacked something you need in a jet engine, heat retention. They didn’t have access to the very rare metals you need to make a good jet, such as Chromium. Instead they used sheet metal within the 262 Junkers 004 engine which led to a much shorter lifespan for each plane. If piston engine planes were obsolete by the time the HE-178 flew then why did the Allies win with piston engine planes? Also the HE-178 wasn’t mass produced, nor could the Germans afford to at the time lol
I named my cat Stuka 😻 My grandfather was in the wehrmacht, I just love all the old German military equipment. I like the P51 a lot too, the spitfire of course, the zero.. All iconic.
They were thinking that the landing gear could be shorter with less drag and weight while still allowing a 3 point attitude that was good for takeoff and landing. Then there is the little matter of loading a large bomb or perhaps a torpedo under the belly.
That's why they put the sirens on the plane and whistles on the bombs. They were solely for fear. War isn't about killing the enemy. It's about getting them to decide what ever piece of ground they are on isn't worth protecting. The Brits were very good about timing their artillery for maximum psychological effect and studied the psychology of it.
German Stuka crews hated the siren, it couldn't be turned on or off, they had to listen to that dreadful wail throughout the flight. Many crews simply took the damned thing off.
The siren was a formidable psychological weapon. Stuka pilots would drop their bombs, and then make dummy bomb runs until the next wave of Stukas arrived. No one can fight while cowering in a foxhole.
The Henschel Hs 123 was an awesome dive bomber and ground attack aircraft for the luftwaffe too. Apparently they made a werid sound too, by adjusting the propellor speed.
Does the Heinkel 177 have four engines as depicted in the video image at 29:18 ? I thought there was only 2 nacelles, one on each wing but with each housing two coupled engines
On holiday in France I went to the Maginot Line fortifications or whats left of them. The dude talking about when they where bombing him has a big point. Next to the actual Maginet building entrance you should see the crater caused by a Stukas bomb. Dude you are one brave man
Not really... it earned its stripes once again later in the war on the Eastern Front as a tank buster. Also... for dive bombers to be able to operate correctly air superiority is preferable... something Germany was unable to establish later in the war. The War had moved on...
@Jerry Jerome Hawkins dive bombers in general had a short run. The loses dive bombing by AA and the slow speed making it more likely to get shot down, were replaced by fighter/bombers very quickly. Even in the naval war of the pacific, they had to adjust tactics big time. They used hellcats with small contact bombs and all there guns to high speed run over ships like the Yamato to kill the AA gun crews before the dive bombers did there big Armour piercing runs. To send them in, even with Japanese less then great AA, was a death sentence by mid war. The army used skip bombing and as many 50 cals as they could on B25s, A20s and p37s to high speed Strafe Japanese ships. Germans were using the 190s in the ground attack by mid war.
My grandfather served in as a rat of tobruk in North Africa , in ww2 in Australia army . That what the German high command called allies and Australian wholed up in and around tobruk in underground in caves and bunker. That keeped the Germany and axis from taking over tobruk He told me he use to be scared by the German stuka from the siren as it diving down to drop its bombs . If any body who said they where not scared where lying . Being bombed 24 hours a day and night for months by air and land by the enemy . My dear Pop told me 57 years ago when I was a child on his knee ,while he drank sherry while recounted his story while tears rolling down his checks, the horror of war.
I've always found the fact that the Ju 87 looks like it has a cheerful smile, and that this happy grin must have been the last thing that countless enemy soldiers saw before a diving Stuka released it's bomb load on them and pulled up and away, to be delightfully perverse :D
The J87 was a great attack aircraft of its time. For the narrator/script to say the J87 was [vulnerable] to British fighters….WELL YEAH! The J87 is an attack aircraft which means: 1) it needs fighter support if air superiority is not preceding 2) can and did bring terror to the battlefield if operated in an environment where the Germans had no enemy air threat. Didn’t the B-17’s need fighter aircraft support? That’s why the bombing missions were 1000 planes-the Army Air Corps knew so many would be shot down…so out of 1000 planes at least a few would get bombs on the target. Imagine in Vietnam if the attack aircraft used F-105, A-4, A-7, A-6, Skyraiders) did not have Fighter escorts and support on their missions!
I only learnt lately that the scream wasn't always there . The Pilots got sick of it and were removed . When that was I can only guess after Battle of Britain
The video suffers from background music track being too out of balance with the vocal track! The Ai recording suffered from inaccurate wording that detracted from the aim of it's creators!
As a kid my dad bought me a JU-87 .049 powered string-flyer. At the time I was very disappointed that it wasn't the spitfire model because it was butt-ugly, but I had a lot of fun with it
Fun fact, the siren noise was made up post-war ,for footage. Turns out nobody had any contemporary footage with audio so folk had to describe what it sounded like for filmmakers.
That we are all stuck with the noise it made because apparently every aeroplane does that when they are pointed down?? Hollywood please please please get over it!
A great documentary, has your sound engineer a problem with his hearing, as the sound back track was at best inutile and at worst deadly on the ears, remember sound is important and the control of the sound makes or breaks a documetary. Kee pup the good docs but fire the sound mixer person 🙂
Legends are very hard to die... Luftwaffe did not lost the Battle of Britain.. Please read the memories of Winston Churchill who said: "We won because we didn't know we lost.. German lost because they didn't know they won.." ( ( They also had to move to prepare for Barbarossa.. )
They did lose it though, they failed in getting Britain to do what they wanted to do. Sorry, but the Germans calling off Operation Sea Lion afterwards is a clear example of that fact. They lost, they stopped targeting actual military targets and started bombing cities because of the Doolittle Raid, and that allowed for the RAF to regain numbers and take the Germans out of the sky lol the British had air superiority over the English Channel the rest of the war, and the Germans didn’t, so how exactly did the Germans win this battle? By killing civilians? The Luftwaffe lost nearly half of their air force in that battle (they had 5,500 planes in 1940, and lost 2,500 in the Battle of Britain) lol the whole goal of the Germans was to push Britain back far enough to get them to sign a peace agreement which was thwarted
At a air show in at Harlingen Texas some one asked s British ace if. The Stuka was Easy to shoot down as people said he raised his voice and said the Stuka pilots / gunner shot him down 3 times
We allways see Stuka dives accompanied by the terrible sound of the so called "Jericho trumpets ".I find it a war myth. Looking at period photos and footage not many aircraft were equipped with and when in use were mostly disliked by the pilots. Some claim that Jericho trumpets should apply to small tubes attached to the bomb fins,which acted as whistles and were commonly used.
@@MartinWillett Escorts are needed for A10s, or is that not clear? A10s are very manoeuvrable but slow and designed as traffic and tank busters, so susceptible to attack.
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250kg max bomb.
The Ju 87 was not an 'instrument or terror" though, its accuracy (better than 15m) meant it didn't cause collateral damage and spared civilians. The Ju 87 was maligned as a terror weapon to hide the fact that here was a very effective tactical bomber no other air force had. There were probably occasions German aircraft attacked French military columns of trucks heading to the front as refugees fled on the same road in the opposite direction and this was used as the basis for the claim.
@@goldreserve bomb load grew with engine power (and wing span)
Красивий гад !
If you read the name you can clearly see that it is spelled with one k, Stuka, not stukka…
My uncle destroyed 3 Stuka's and 3 Heinkel's during the second world war. He was the worst mechanic they ever hired for the Luftwaffe.
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Fantastic!
The greatest thing the Stuka gave us was the sound of any airplane losing altitude perhaps faster than necessary. (According to Hollywood)
Hollywood no longer makes very good movies. But that sound was heard in ancient movies all the way up to the movie, "Flight," and likely more to come.
I was thinking of your post and thought of something else great that the Stuka gave the world. It gave dead Nazis towards the middle and the end of World War II. The Americans have a Stuka-like plane in their enormous Arsenal. (please note the capital A since their military is the largest) They have a close ground support giant gun with a plane attached to it. It was made in the mid 1970s and is a hideous flying gun of death. It has no siren on the plane aspect of it. But the giant gun, when fired makes a horrific buzzing roar as it unleashes enemy cleansing from above. If you hear the horrible roar more than a few seconds, you were not the target, or the pilot of the gun wanted to give a warning shot to watch the enemy squirm. The plane is the A-10 Thunderbolt II. American President Trump ordered new wings put on the planes to allow it to fly deep into the future. The new designation for the even uglier flying gun of death with a plane attached is called the Super Thunderbolt! I think it has a nickname called the Wild Bore, or something to that nature, because it is such an ugly configuration. But death is supposed to be ugly, especially when going against an enormous flying gun with a pilot itching to push the trigger. I love those cowboys and cowgirls in the United States of America. I am glad we are on the same side.
It was used a lot in the early James Bond movies. Even helicopters made the Stuka siren sound.
@indridcold8433 wow!!! But, who are this mythical nazis ? I never heard about some naziland... maybe you got something wrong? honestly, I was looking for something like this on maps, on the globe, but I can't find it anywhere
I could be wrong, but I believe the Germans added that whistle in this particular aircraft to instill fear to those on the ground under attack .
" Stuka Pilot "
By Oberst Hans Ulrich Rudel , is one of The Best Aviation books I have read !
That Man was a Lesson , in how to overcome the odds to become a successful Combat Pilot.
Cheers
Heinz migot interviews are also awesome
This guy and his "victories" are bizarre bulshit
I read it 50 years ago, still remembered he drank milk and lifted weights, after coming back from a sortie.
@@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739 Very cool. We're all still cranking the whole milk and the weights when we get old over here
I agree, Rudel was the most decorated Luftwaffe pilot, an extraordinary combat record in the Stuka of which nothing was said in this video, bizarre.
The Stuka has always been one of my favorites of ww2, not for what it did but for what it was.
It was a very unique airplane, and effective during its time.
Likewise!
Not for what it did? Lol trust me pal the allies did more bombing of innocent civilians than the germans with their planes.
Same here..
It's just a cool looking plane!
Republic Aviation in the 1960s, interviewed the great Stuka pilot Hans Rudel to get his ideas before designing the Thunderbolt II (Warthog). Since he was the preeminent close air support dive bomber pilot extant, he was chosen to give designers the best shot at developing an aircraft with the qualities necessary.He said survivability was critical so they built the titanium bathtub in which the pilot sat, redundant flight systems, an extremely tough aircraft and finally, the gatling gun. Investigate it yourself.
Just saw that video today too
It's my understanding that the design of the A-10 started with the GAU-8 rotary cannon and the rest of the plane was built around it.
@@spaceman081447 i did not mean to imply that the aircraft was not built around the GaU. It just happened to be last on the list of its many qualities in my comment. I said finally, the Gatling gun only to highlight the systems installed. have a good friend Lt. Colonel Mike Stock who flew 3 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was not aware of the history himself and like so many others, was unaware of the exploits of Hans Rudel. Look him up.
The Yolanthe was a reliable and very easy aircraft to fly from all written accounts. Purpose built to be a front line mobil aerial artillery unit, it suffered from poor tactics employing them as a forward tactical and at times a strategic bomber. It was nearly outdated by the time it reached service but was very much appreciated by ground units when they showed up to stem breakthroughs even towards the end of the war. Fun fact, little more than 600 were ever operational at the same time throughout its production life. Stuka is was and always will be an iconic aircraft.
My father was in the Famous New Zealand 20th Battalion in the 2nd World War. "The 20th" as they liked to be called was probably the most highly decorated Battalion in the entire British Empire; this came at great cost; the 20th suffered 397 KIA.
My Father hated the Stuka which had stalked the NZ Division from where they were giving the Italians a hiding alongside their Greek "Cobbers", after smacking the Italians, Germany had to come to Mussolini's rescue. And then the Germans started .... well the rest is history... my dear dad said the Stuka was the scariest thing he had faced in WW2...he fought in Greece, Crete, North Africa and Italy right up to Trieste!
When they (Brits, Aussies, Greeks, Kiwis were getting smashed by the Germans, my dad said as soon as you heard the Stukas coming everybody just bailed out of the Troop Trucks as soon as possible; my dad ended up in an open latrine, after the first bomb went off he lifted his head only to stick it under again as the next Stuka came. He had to wear that uniform for another 2 Weeks before being able to wash it.....and then Welcome to Crete!
Bless him
I was Fascinated by the Stuka as a boy !
My Dream was to have a Cox 0.49 powered " Stuka " , it was made of plastic , I thought that with those wheel pants , gull wings , pointy nose and long " green house " it was Intriguingly Beautiful !
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Built a Super Stuka Kit, 2 actually they came with a fully carved fuselage, Balsa in 2 pieces It was the most beautiful thing I ever saw, as I applied many coats pf sealer sanding between coats it took on a silvery hue. I was flying F,F. super scale. The tail way too weak.
I remember the Cox Stuka... it even came with a "bomb" it could drop... you refilled it with baby powder.
I never got the Stuka though lol... I had the Purple Cox Dunebuggy... my brother had a crazy looking Cox car with a propeller in the back.
Man... those were the days. I can still smell the fuel and hear them! 👍🏽
I actually owned and flew that very plane with the cox ).49 engine. I was in love! I was 9 years old. I'm 70 now. It was beautiful...
I had the Cox Spitfire. Worked a summer at my Dads office and paid in instalments. I never did get it to fly right. Think it was a bit under powered with the .049….
Saw the Stuka at the Hendon in 1999. What is struck me was how large a plane it is.
That was my impression too. It suddenly made me see why it became obsolete so "fast".
Same here !
It's a Beast ...
surely it is, it can carry up to 2000kg bomb and torpedoes as well
I had the same impression about how large a plane it was. However, reading Rudel's book, with an expert touch it was highly maneuverable, except in the all-important area of outright speed. And another impression; sitting in the cockpit, it feels like being on top of the world---the visibility is incredible all around from such a high perch, including through the window in the floor. From the pilot's point of view it must have felt very powerful indeed.
Me too !
I was in kind of a dream just watching this machine and feeling/understanding it's significance for Luftwaffe Pilots and their enemies.
Very pleasantly surprised to see famed British fighter / test pilot Eric Brown talking in this. He flew 487 types of aircraft so knew his stuff and would of course have flown the Stuka, if not multiple models of it.
Eric winkle brown, what an absolute Gentleman and hero
@@PaulR387 Scotland's finest
He testet all important planes of the luftwaffe. And in his experience with the Ju87 he said, that it was the only dive bomber in the WW2, in which you can realise an stabile 90 degree Dive without any problems and with good aiming conditions in the dive. Responsable for thie good diving performance are good diving brakes and the good diving automatic and the undercarriage.
Brown didn’t always get it right. In this case he was asked about the rear armament of the planned Ju 187 and its drop down tail was not much of an improvement since the gun was too weak. In fact the MG151 canon were vastly more powerful and the drop down tail and fun much lower depressions of fire were possible. Remote power drive and computerised aiming for target lead, ballistics and wind correction proved highly effective on the B-29.
-The replacement for the Ju 87 was in fact selected to be the Me 210 and Me 410. With dive brakes and the sSTUVI 5B bomb site it was a good replacement Unfortunately, the aircraft had stability problems which delayed production by a year and a half to almost 2 years. This meant that the production system for the Me 110 had to be ramped up instead. It was then too late to switch back to the M4 10 when it was perfected.
The Italians used both the B and D versions of the Stuka. Used by them for land and maritime attacks. Independent of others they learned to skip bomb with it. This is an effective technique against shipping.
If you want to see one up close, there is one hanging from the ceiling in Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry. It was captured in North Africa in WWII.
I believe there is a British Spitfire hanging next to it. They also have the U505 boat on display.
thanks for sharing the information Lance
Kudos.
+@lancethompson3431 The Stuka in Chicago still wears its original WW2 paint also. Years ago, it was dropped during a move and the wheels or landing gear needed repair. I think the wheels were replaced with units from a T-6 trainer.
Thanx for that info, going to Chicago for a few days to visit, I will be sure to visit that place!
There was one at Hendon Field in the UK when I visited a few years ago. The height of the wheel struts amazed me.
When I was a kid I built and painted 1/72 scale models of the most well known WW2 warbirds, but the Stuka stood out. Just epic looking in 3d. Then probably a toss up between the P-61 Black Widow and Lancaster bombers for 2cnd place.
Despite being a relative unknown, a Black Widow scored the last Allied aerial victory of WWII (hours before VJ Day). It was a real beauty, too
my personal favorite is HE-100. beautiful, powerful, sleek.
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I couldn't imagine being a dive bomber pilot, no matter which side you were on. Pushing the stick forward with AA rising up to meet you must have felt like suicide at times. I really wouldn't want to be the rear gunner looking up at the sky and wondering if the pilot and plane were still good.
They eventually got a automatic pullout system. From about 1942 the Germans introduced the Lofte 7 level computing bomb sight and the StuVi 5B dive and shallow dive bombing sight. These were accurate enough to replace the Ju 87 in all but the most demanding situations (mainly used in Ju 88). The Me 210 Me 410 with dive brakes and StuVi 5B was supposed to replaced the Ju 87 but technical problems prevented mass production till it was too late. The StuVi 5B could be used on the Ju 87 but only bigger aircraft like the Ju 88, He 177, Me 410 got the BZA computer to allow bombing from angles as shallow as 22 degrees.
The aviators had a gentlemen agreement. You never shot at a man in a parachute. All sides honoured this code, save a very rare few, which were taken out by their own side when they were dropping in a parachute from being shot down. All the aviators knew that their jobs were insanely risky. When man ejected and was in a parachute, they would often salute their enemy that shot them down as the enemy waved their wings and saluted back. When a man was falling I na parachute, they were no longer an aviator. The pilots were trained to fight other aviators. There were different times, back then. I think today an enemy pilot would likely shoot at a pilot falling in a parachute. There is no honour among enemies anymore. I think that all ended at the end of World War II.
perfect example of hollywood brainwash, any war back whatever time is false shown and believed, Heroism ? fck off , i want to live, so i choose maximum effect with the smallest amount of risk to myself the troops , anybody involved on my side . There are no Heroes in War , just people trying to overcome other people, and do not whitewash "Heroes" that had the choice of beeing executed by the own officer or fight any enemy they are told to.....
@@indridcold8433 Это было свойственно во времена первой мировой войны, когда самолетов было мало, летчики были в основном интелегентные люди с чувством чести и достоинства... Их учили этому кодексу чести в соответствующих летных школах.
Ideally you dont drive bomb ack ack emplacements
My grandfather gave me a Stuka siren when I was a Young lad. I have installed it in every vehicle I have had since my first one. I drove the siren with the motor from a 12 volt hobby turntable to make clay pottery. I had that combination for about 30 years. It just now broke late last year. I removed the siren and trying to find a different way to drive it. I can not find the hobby turntable anywhere. It was perfect. It had variable speed, worked with 13.8 volts without issues, though it was a 12 volt motor. I want to install it again. But I have to find a motor I can install on the bracket that I made to mount the siren. I will have it installed b before the end of the year.
Wow
Your ingenuity and determination are outstanding.
Keep it up !
How powerful is the broken motor ? Could you use the electrical motor of a fresh air fan blower motor out of a car ? Using the resistors that are in the heater plenum ? You would need a complete donor vehicle, a derelict, to do it right. And a good rebuilt replacement,not heavily used,blower motor.
Plus a fair bit of cutting away and fabrication.
With internet communication,there are of course manufacturers of 12 volt motors you can contact. Different shapes and power ratings. Depends how much money they would cost brand new I suppose.
@@paulmanson253 Plenty of Automobile wrecking yards pull the blower motors out of wrecked vehicles. I'm pretty sure one from a vehicle less than 10 years old will work fine. The issue with altering the speed control in some of the newer brushless DC motors is that they often don't use the old multiple resister method. Now they generally use a digital speed control... and that's the part that would cost the most. An arduino could be used to do the job with some additional components.
@@jamesw.6931 Probably along the same lines as why I still want a Cold War era Air Raid Siren, or a Fog Horn from the 1700-1800s. They are unusual and kinda neat, despite their actual purpose. The sirens from the Ju-87 are like a unicorn today. A loud, ear-defiling unicorn. Most people hearing a horn of any kind, often react in the same way... with mild shock, contempt, avarice and then forced disregard (They get a jump-scare, they look around and glare at the source, flip the bird while shouting and then openly ignore as if nothing happened)
I never realized how large they were until I saw one up close.
Yep! I saw one at a museum... once as a kid and once as a young adult. Both times I was in awe at how big the thing was compared to the other single engine aircraft of the time. I mean, it had to be big... especially the wings. Bombs aren't light.
@@exafrost what museum
@@zenoxenoo The Museum of Science and Industry, in Chicago I believe has one on display.
I have been told that there are only two other surviving examples in the world.
@@TonyGarrett-p1c thank you!
Some of them flew up to 9 sorties per day. Adds up.
I’m curious how do the defenders in the back not shoot off their own tails. Is there a spot in the linkage where you can’t fire the gun when it gets close to the tail like firing through the propeller type stoppage ?
The gun only fired past certain degree angles from the tail. The gunner could follow the enemy through the gun sight, but the gun would quit firing if it was within a close angle to the tial.
@@indridcold8433 Thank you, I was always wondering about that.
Something else you don't know about the "Stuka" is that "stuka" is not the name of any one aircraft, but is the *job description* of any/all dive bombers. The word "stuka" is a contraction of "sturz kampf bomber," meaning "diving battle bomber."
It's like the term "flak," which stands for "flieger abwehr kanon," or "flyer defence cannon." (Yes, officials of the Third Reich really loved their abbreviations and acronyms.)
Any dive bomber would be called "stuka" in German.
Sturzkampflugzeug
@@Vtwin60 Danke! I had only ever heard it called a "sturzkampfbomber" before, so that's what I went with. German is my fourth language, and it has gotten somewhat rusty since I left Europe some 28 years ago. There aren't that many chances to practice in Canada.😉
Thank you for using a title that doesn't presume those watching are all completely ignorant about the things they click on when they have an interest in the subject.
I have 2 bicycles that were made at the plant where Stukas were made in Austria. Made by many of the same prisoners that manufactured the planes they stayed and now being paid and given housing were just the few lucky ones to survive what was a dead end and painful situation. From planes to Bikes . Little history facts.
These 2 bikes are for sale if collectors of ww2 post war facts collectables . Styer Bikes , Austria when I learned of the background of these bikes I put them away. Till this video. Now for sale
rather ironic as the first aircraft builders went from bikes to planes.
No from planes to. Bikes and the planes and bikes were manufactured by Jewish slave labor workers during WW2 and after the war workers were paid and given a place to live during post war times that must have been difficult.
What kind of bikes? Recumbents?
@@Normalhowaboutyou they are Steyr made in Austria both were last licensed in 1974. That's all I know besides the research what I read on the story behind these bikes.
Stuka was considered “obsolete” only because of its slow flying speed. But true dive bombers are never fast in level flight. The necessary compromises can’t do both jobs.
It's not like the B-52 were any good without fighter escorts either. Sometimes people just say stupid stuff without thinking. Aside from the very state of the art modern bombers, you would never want your bombers out alone.
When there's a movie and any plane when its diving and it not a Stuka. They will use the sound of its siren
When I played this my polish grandfather started breakdancing on the floor
On the accuracy side, the first air strike on Poland was not Warsaw (not Dirshau) but Wielun, which was obliterated by the 4 in the morning raid
Warsaw was never bombed, military and strategic targets within Warsaw were bombed. The Germans held back from city bombing. You were lucky if Stuka's attacked since they went for specific targets and caused limited collateral damage. Wielun was a case of mistaken identity. They bombed the wrong town. Still happens. Morning fog probably cased them to get lost.
They were the equivalent to the A-10 warthog of the day , a roll they excelled in as a tank buster !!!
A stuka was inspirational during the design process for the A-10, with designers using Rudel's memoir of operating on the russian front, as a guide.
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Rudel himself was an advisor on the A10 design.
I had a model kit when I was 6 and finished it with my dad's help. Once it had set I had run into the living room to show grandpa and he took one look and said he hated it. I was of course crushed and he added "yeah, but you never been underneath a Sixpack of them son." and went back to watching his TV show.
It's a pity he didn't tell you more in order to soften the blow but for so many ex-combatants they just would't talk about their experiences, it was too painful. I'll bet you still feel guilty - please don't, it wasn't your fault, neither was it his. Taking part in a war is awful and few people come out of it with jolly stories to tell.
What do you expect from a ZOGBOT
One thing a lot of people don't know about the _Ju 87 Stuka_ was that I flew one in a videogame once.
Really good. I've never seen a program specifically on the Stuka.
im just about convinced that great docs like this dont need any music at all, and if so, barely perceptible
Often Stukas used the "rolling attack" mode. So from a Stuka Group, always one squadron attacks, one was on the way (to the base or to the front area) and one was refueling and taking new bombs. So the squadron (by air superiority) on the front, let attack only one airplane after the other, throwing only ONE bomb per dive. Lets say there are 9 planes per squadron x 5 bombs and 1 minute per attack......and every squadron flys 5 sorties per day.....so nearly the hole day over the target area xy......was full of stukas, the sound, the bombs....
One of Germanys most well-known artists was a rear gunner on a Stuka. Joseph Beuys (1921-1986) had been a member of the Hitler Youth and went on to volunteer for the Luftwaffe. He remains reveered (as an artist) to this day. I guess Beuys will be Beuys!
Hans down the best joke in these Komments
the stuka was based on the supermarine spitfire designed in the late 1920's. MOD specs wanted a monoplane fighter capable of going at least 200mph so supermarine tried to make 1 and called it the spitfire. but it could only do 100mph and it needed to do 150mph to get to take off speed and every prototype they made crashed on take off killing the pilots.
it had 2 crew. fixed undercarriege and gull wings as was almost identical to the stuka. no forward firing guns just rear firing and desighed to fly under enemy bombers and shoot at it from underneath. the defiant got chosen instead for that role as the spitfire was a total failure.it was supermarines 1st attempt at making a land based planes as they specilsed in sea planes.
even the sptfire of WWII was a bit of a lemon and it wasnt till vickers bought out supermarine that the spitfire started to actualy work as intended. ME 109 pilots loved the spitfire as it was so easy to shoot down.
during the battle of Britain only 10% of the fighters in fighter command was spitfires but they made up 90% of RAF fighter losses.
my uncce was a fighter pilot during the battle of britain, he started on the hawker fury a bi plane and he said even that was better in a dog fight than the spit was. when he converted the the hurricane he loved it. when his squardon got swtiched to spitfires the whole squadron demanded to have their hurricanes back.
prpably why the spitfire was retired as soon as WWII was over in Europe while the Huricane was still in service in the Asian theatre against Japan. some even fought in the Korean war.
1 spit pilot got lost and laned at a luftwaffe base by mistake. so Germany got their hands on an intact spit and experimented with it. they took out the merlin and put in a a 109 and found the 109 was 50mph slower and they put the 109 engine in the spit and it was 50mph faster. the prob with the spits till the mk IV when vickers took it over was it could not dive at full throttle or the wings broke off. it had to go to half throttle to turn or it stalled. only advantage it had was a faster climb rate.
the hurricane was slower but could out turn the 109 with ease.
USA also found out how bad the merlin was. the mustangs with merlin engies had a far shorter range and slower than the alinson engined mustangs. Avro used 2 rolls royce vulturs on the manchester but needed 4 merlins for the same plane when the renamed it lancaster. but they had to half the bomb load and range with the merlins fitted as well as having 2 more engines.
Just a few years earlier aeroplanes had two wings and the pilot sat out exposed to the elements. This must have looked futuristic and terrifying.
I wonder how it would have compared to our (the U.S.) dive bombers say at the battle of Midway, was it better and more accurate than a Dountless DB? I imagine those 37mm guns would have made a mess of just about any cargo ship as well as the Flight Deck of an Aircraft carrier.
Yes in fact it was far more accurate----the comparisons show accuracy of a few tens of meters for the Stuka, vs a whole football field for the next best (the Americans). The reason given in the comparison was that the Stuka was the only diver bomber capable of and optimized for true vertical dive-bombing in relative safety, with the highly effective and very advanced pull-out apparatus giving great confidence as well as the ability to concentrate to the very last minute on the target at a closer range than would have been possible for the Americans. The vertical angle and closer range being determinative and somewhat ironic in that the idea was shoved through by Udet, after witnessing the accuracy of American dive-bombers in a pre-war demonstration. Ultimately, all German bombers were required to be dive-bombing capable as a result, which possibly hampered their optimizing bombers for the strategic role.
Ju-87s were diving on stationary targets and certainly not without air superiority and not against the concentrated flak you would get from a naval convoy.
At 22:30, the troops shown marching near the Arc D’Triomphe to denote the fall of France are US troops.
The American Stuka, the A-!0 was built for the same Mission. The Gun is a not the primary weapon, They are under the wings
the stuka was a great idea, but development of the principle of pin-point bombing fell behind in germany. it simply could not live with the fighters the allies had.
the stormovik had a similar task, but got more attention to staying alive over a battle field
Ju 87 were never supposed to operate deep behind enemy lines as they were forced to during the Battle of Britain. It was to act as mobile artillery near the front lines.
Incredible source of information, wealth of detail, learnt alot. Thank you very much :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
As the first jet fighter, the HE 178, flew BEFORE WW2 started,
all piston engined aircraft were basically obsolete by that time.
1) The first working jet engine was ground tested in 1937, but it was British. Let's all credit Sir Frank Whittle, just like Hans von Ohain did in his book. He was the inventor of the jet engine
2) The first German jet engine to fly was in fact Hans von Ohain's, but as we all know, if took many more years to make it decent. In fact th eMe 262 only flew at the end of 1944, but it was still a very unreliable jet engine, even by the end of the war, therefore useless for the time
3) Others had working jet engines by 1941, but they were considered pointless. Britain had jet aircraft in Belgium around 1941, but it would have been silly to potentially lose them to the enemy.
The history of the jet engine is a bit more complex than the usual "Germans invented everything".
On a side note, Hans Von Ohain had access to Sir Frank Whittle's patents as early as 1935. He also had full support and financial backing from Heinkel, whereas Whittle's was penniless and had no support. He first presented his idea for a jet engine to the British Air Ministry in 1929, but it was rejected, so he first patented his idea in 1930.
If the British government backed Whittle's jet engine in 1929, Britain would have most certainly have had a (really) working jet engine before the beginning of the war. His engine ended up in the lethal MiG-15 in 1955, just to prove what it could have beeen.
By the way, for a while Italians were thought to be the first ones to have a jet engine, until the German 1939 flight was unveiled to the general public.
Also, perhaps the first concept of a working jet engine (I know it is a stretch) was the Stipa Caproni aircraft. If you want to learn more:
Sir Frank Whittle's story: ruclips.net/video/gYmum__jULo/видео.html
Stipa Caproni: ruclips.net/video/Pgtq9e7yGn8/видео.html
@@Dronescapes I knew that Sir Frank Whittle had ground tested the first jet engine and cannot understand why our Government didnt give him the backing he fully deserved for his ground breaking creation, then in 1939, Germany obviously got ahead with the first jet aircraft in the air,
then they failed to exploit that advantage, possibly because Germany needed to fight a "short war" as it couldn't win a "long war",
so further development of their jet fighter,
would have just wasted time and resources,
in the event of a short winnable war,
(Germany didnt even "invent??" Blitzkrieg either, that come from the Allies towards the end of WW1, using air power and tanks, together, to by pass trench warfare)
Obviously there would have been a number of risks transiting from piston engine aircraft to the as yet untried in combat jet engined aircraft, like, extra pilot training, obtaining the metals required for the jet engines, the skills of the jet engine manufacturers and ground crew, etc,
and by the end of 1941, it was "game over"
for Germany, as America and the Soviet Union could basically "out produce" Germany by quite a margin, Flying Fortresses, Liberty Ships and T34s are a "classic example" of that, meanwhile Germany had to waste vast resources on the Atlantic Wall too, while unlike America and Soviet Union, its factories, factory workers and their homes, were being bombed daily, so that ME262 really was "the last throw of the dice for Germany" (along with the V1 and V2, they were "FANTASTIC on paper but USELESS in reality") mind you the ME163 Komet, was "a pretty desperate" aircraft???? too, (if you call a wooden GLIDER shunted into the air by a rocket with 2 fuels that could dissolve the pilot in seconds, an "aircraft??") blimey, even German U Boats were basically WW1 tech too, O.K. so Germany had the 88mm and MG42, the FW190 was decent and the Bismarck and Tirpitz, would have been far better, IF they had been aircraft carriers,
"yeah, Germany invented EVERYTHING?? in WW2, but MOST of what they invented??? in WW2 didnt do what it was supposed to do"
lets face it, Germany had HUGE difficulty, in shooting down, the unarmed "Wooden Wonder" that was the De Haviland Mosquito, that their single engine fighters couldnt catch, its a good job that the British "invented flying wood" isnt it.
The first jet engines were clunky and had relatively low output. When the Spitfire began production with Merlin engines there was virtually no difference in output. It took a few more years of research and development before jets could be considered as superior to piston engines.
The first German jet engines sucked because they lacked something you need in a jet engine, heat retention. They didn’t have access to the very rare metals you need to make a good jet, such as Chromium. Instead they used sheet metal within the 262 Junkers 004 engine which led to a much shorter lifespan for each plane. If piston engine planes were obsolete by the time the HE-178 flew then why did the Allies win with piston engine planes? Also the HE-178 wasn’t mass produced, nor could the Germans afford to at the time lol
I named my cat Stuka 😻
My grandfather was in the wehrmacht, I just love all the old German military equipment. I like the P51 a lot too, the spitfire of course, the zero.. All iconic.
90 degree dive is insane
My first RC airplane was a Stuka - talking 1972
Had a model of one as a kid. One of me favorite German fighter planes of WW2.
What I do know is that there are not many of them left as they were shot down in such high numbers !
They became obsolete at the seme time that Germany became desperate for aircraft, so yeah...
Too slow. Too big. With fixed landing-gear, too not-aerodynamic.
LOL love the back handed diss of the nazi luftwaffe. You're not wrong though.
@@forgottenhistory2562well they are wrong though 😂
A gull wing that give great ground clearance and that little propeller; what were they thinking?
They were thinking that the landing gear could be shorter with less drag and weight while still allowing a 3 point attitude that was good for takeoff and landing. Then there is the little matter of loading a large bomb or perhaps a torpedo under the belly.
It was more for better visibility in the dive than for propeller clearance on the Stuka. Unlike the Corsair that had that massive engine/propeller.
Udet helped design the Stuka, he was famous for his great skill in acrobatics and an early proponent of daring dive bombing, 😊
The music is often so loud I can't hardly understand the narration; turn it down, please.
I have seen footage of the stuka in action it must have been terrifying to see an attack in person if you survived
That's why they put the sirens on the plane and whistles on the bombs. They were solely for fear.
War isn't about killing the enemy. It's about getting them to decide what ever piece of ground they are on isn't worth protecting.
The Brits were very good about timing their artillery for maximum psychological effect and studied the psychology of it.
German Stuka crews hated the siren, it couldn't be turned on or off, they had to listen to that dreadful wail throughout the flight. Many crews simply took the damned thing off.
The siren was a formidable psychological weapon. Stuka pilots would drop their bombs, and then make dummy bomb runs until the next wave of Stukas arrived. No one can fight while cowering in a foxhole.
I can just see A Stuka with no tail going over the side, while the Tail and tail hook laying on the deck.
Junker factory in Sweden? Did we have any of these in Sweden, if so where was it located?
The Junkers K 47 was, for example, made in Sweden at a Junkers subsidiary. I think it might have been in Limhamn
The Henschel Hs 123 was an awesome dive bomber and ground attack aircraft for the luftwaffe too. Apparently they made a werid sound too, by adjusting the propellor speed.
Does the Heinkel 177 have four engines as depicted in the video image at 29:18 ? I thought there was only 2 nacelles, one on each wing but with each housing two coupled engines
The He177 did only have 2 nacelles. What is shown is an He277, a four nacelle prototype based off the 177
On holiday in France I went to the Maginot Line fortifications or whats left of them. The dude talking about when they where bombing him has a big point. Next to the actual Maginet building entrance you should see the crater caused by a Stukas bomb. Dude you are one brave man
What's with the dude shit?
Highly informative and detailed video.
The music is too loud when you stop speaking! :)
It went out of date quickly.
Not really... it earned its stripes once again later in the war on the Eastern Front as a tank buster. Also... for dive bombers to be able to operate correctly air superiority is preferable... something Germany was unable to establish later in the war. The War had moved on...
It did not really go out of date. It was perfect for the job it was created for. It's roles expanded.. some could never be met
as did The American Stuka or did it?
@@Seadog..C5 Perfect for the time but by 1943, there were better options.
@Jerry Jerome Hawkins dive bombers in general had a short run. The loses dive bombing by AA and the slow speed making it more likely to get shot down, were replaced by fighter/bombers very quickly. Even in the naval war of the pacific, they had to adjust tactics big time. They used hellcats with small contact bombs and all there guns to high speed run over ships like the Yamato to kill the AA gun crews before the dive bombers did there big Armour piercing runs. To send them in, even with Japanese less then great AA, was a death sentence by mid war.
The army used skip bombing and as many 50 cals as they could on B25s, A20s and p37s to high speed Strafe Japanese ships.
Germans were using the 190s in the ground attack by mid war.
Thank you for posting...i find it very interesting
Stuka is my favorite WWII aircraft! I love how it's built!
My grandfather served in as a rat of tobruk in North Africa , in ww2 in Australia army . That what the German high command called allies and Australian wholed up in and around tobruk in underground in caves and bunker. That keeped the Germany and axis from taking over tobruk He told me he use to be scared by the German stuka from the siren as it diving down to drop its bombs . If any body who said they where not scared where lying . Being bombed 24 hours a day and night for months by air and land by the enemy . My dear Pop told me 57 years ago when I was a child on his knee ,while he drank sherry while recounted his story while tears rolling down his checks, the horror of war.
Bless him Wayne
I've always found the fact that the Ju 87 looks like it has a cheerful smile, and that this happy grin must have been the last thing that countless enemy soldiers saw before a diving Stuka released it's bomb load on them and pulled up and away, to be delightfully perverse :D
The J87 was a great attack aircraft of its time. For the narrator/script to say the J87 was [vulnerable] to British fighters….WELL YEAH! The J87 is an attack aircraft which means: 1) it needs fighter support if air superiority is not preceding 2) can and did bring terror to the battlefield if operated in an environment where the Germans had no enemy air threat.
Didn’t the B-17’s need fighter aircraft support? That’s why the bombing missions were 1000 planes-the Army Air Corps knew so many would be shot down…so out of 1000 planes at least a few would get bombs on the target.
Imagine in Vietnam if the attack aircraft used F-105, A-4, A-7, A-6, Skyraiders) did not have Fighter escorts and support on their missions!
"Stuka Party"
Think an it.😂
I only learnt lately that the scream wasn't always there . The Pilots got sick of it and were removed . When that was I can only guess after Battle of Britain
The video suffers from background music track being too out of balance with the vocal track! The Ai recording suffered from inaccurate wording that detracted from the aim of it's creators!
As a kid my dad bought me a JU-87 .049 powered string-flyer. At the time I was very disappointed that it wasn't the spitfire model because it was butt-ugly, but I had a lot of fun with it
Hurricanes and Spitfires feasted on them during the WW2 Battle of Britain …
Well made and very informative.
Fun fact, the siren noise was made up post-war ,for footage. Turns out nobody had any contemporary footage with audio so folk had to describe what it sounded like for filmmakers.
That we are all stuck with the noise it made because apparently every aeroplane does that when they are pointed down?? Hollywood please please please get over it!
I’m pretty sure that even early versions had an altimeter and an airspeed indicator. It would be unflyable without them.
It was obsolescent at the start of the war, but was an effective ground support aircraft.
Although they were evenyually made obsolete they were a awsome looking plane and incredible menuverability .
Just one question. Rudel has destroyed 12 taks column in one go. Did he have 12 bombs at once?
O stuka ñ era radial? No mergulho quantos kms p hora? Ele voava mais rapido que o thunderbolt?
Good footage, thank you.
A great documentary, has your sound engineer a problem with his hearing, as the sound back track was at best inutile and at worst deadly on the ears, remember sound is important and the control of the sound makes or breaks a documetary. Kee pup the good docs but fire the sound mixer person 🙂
Damn, that pic of the Airborne guy's face as they're about to jump in as op. overlord started has a million words.
German pilots hated the sirens, and they were used for a short time.
Or they put a switch on it. But yeah, it got old.
Looks like they had the gull wing design before the corsair
The main question of this film : Name of the music in the background?
Well made and enjoyable video, except the volume of the musical punctuation between paragraphs, though pleasant, is too loud.
Legends are very hard to die...
Luftwaffe did not lost the Battle of Britain..
Please read the memories of Winston Churchill who said:
"We won because we didn't know we lost..
German lost because they didn't know they won.."
( ( They also had to move to prepare for Barbarossa.. )
They did lose it though, they failed in getting Britain to do what they wanted to do. Sorry, but the Germans calling off Operation Sea Lion afterwards is a clear example of that fact. They lost, they stopped targeting actual military targets and started bombing cities because of the Doolittle Raid, and that allowed for the RAF to regain numbers and take the Germans out of the sky lol the British had air superiority over the English Channel the rest of the war, and the Germans didn’t, so how exactly did the Germans win this battle? By killing civilians? The Luftwaffe lost nearly half of their air force in that battle (they had 5,500 planes in 1940, and lost 2,500 in the Battle of Britain) lol the whole goal of the Germans was to push Britain back far enough to get them to sign a peace agreement which was thwarted
The Eastern Front was not a tank war. It was a combined arms war. Artillery knocked out more tanks than other tanks did.
Your pronunciation of STUKA grates on my ears.
Factully accurate though
Arrogance like yours grates on my nerves. Do you expect him to disrespect the german language and americanise it just to suit your ears?
@@Nicho137Racing i was tiny bit impressed. It's perfect, exactly like germans pronounce it.
@@Nicho137Racing A little light on the anti-naval vessel part
I think it may be an AI voice?
what is the name of the music piece at the background pls ?
why is the Stuka at 0.13 displaying a fake 3B unit code ?
3B was never issued/assigned by the Luftwaffe .
Only plane to replace the terror component of the Stuka is the A10 Warthog.
Ahhh, the A-10, wonderful aircraft
At a air show in at Harlingen Texas some one asked s British ace if. The Stuka was Easy to shoot down as people said he raised his voice and said the Stuka pilots / gunner shot him down 3 times
We allways see Stuka dives accompanied by the terrible sound of the so called "Jericho trumpets ".I find it a war myth. Looking at period photos and footage not many aircraft were equipped with and when in use were mostly disliked by the pilots. Some claim that Jericho trumpets should apply to small tubes attached to the bomb fins,which acted as whistles and were commonly used.
please tune down the music. It is way to loud, compared to the commentary.
I saw a picture of a field mod for a Stuka with no wheel pants, and 2x 20mm instead of the MGs in the wings.
can someone explain difference between me262 and stuka?
Excellent video and commentary.
Thank you
Those screaming sirens on them were just "Gut Churning". Quote from a video- " Screaming". Stuka Dive Bombers
Is there any data about accuracy of Stuka? Bombers and ground-attack planes actually rarely hit their targets.
Rudel destroyed almost 500 tanks between 1941 till the end of WW2 with his Stuka. Seems the accuracy was good.
A-10's need escorts' too.
Escorts' what?
@@MartinWillett Escorts are needed for A10s, or is that not clear? A10s are very manoeuvrable but slow and designed as traffic and tank busters, so susceptible to attack.
@@michaelawford7325 WTF is the apostrophe meant to be doing?
You mean fighters escort?
That’s a very good point U.S.
One of the greats ❤❤❤❤
Thanks for the Stuka!!!
You are welcome
I want one of those sirens on my truck or my bike .