Perfect Elastic Collision / No Final Velocity Given

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2015
  • Solving when final velocities are unknown. 50,000 views later on a video made for a Canadian student via youtube request. The complaint I've had over time is the masses that I left in grams... Let me help you, on COM problems like this... It doesn't matter. The units cancel out, so the ratio of the masses are the only things of value, so rejoice that you can leave the numbers in a more palatable condition and still get the answer right. Turdfurg's gift to you.

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  • @copee3
    @copee3 4 года назад +65

    I'm so glad I found a math channel in my language, I was getting tired of having to translate English to Ainglush.

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад +18

      Responding 2 years late lol.... I'm glad to hear someone thought my southern dialect still qualifies as English :)

  • @skyrift7255
    @skyrift7255 8 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for helping me pass physics! You remind me of the history teacher I had in 7th grade. I miss that guy

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  7 месяцев назад +1

      Glad I helped. Sounds like you had a pretty special teacher in 7th grade. If we find one teacher that actually cares if we learn or not, then we've done pretty good. The "good ones" always want you to come where they are, so that you may go further. Glad you passed. Now go be amazing!

  • @tammytao1744
    @tammytao1744 6 лет назад +6

    The only video on this topic that helps me understand how to solve this type of questions! Thank you so much xx

  • @domi9905
    @domi9905 4 месяца назад

    enjoyed watching your vid, I didn't know I could get a laugh from a math video. Thanks and cheers

  • @ebube7092
    @ebube7092 Год назад +1

    Thank you. This is so direct and clear.

  • @jackseeley638
    @jackseeley638 2 года назад +3

    This was a very informative video, good sir!

  • @gladysbudiongan6389
    @gladysbudiongan6389 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks God I have found this ...thank you so much

  • @wendygarcia4885
    @wendygarcia4885 3 года назад +9

    Thank you so much:). I've been trying to solve this problem for 2 days.

  • @redvulp2189
    @redvulp2189 7 лет назад +4

    Thanks a lot dude! I've understand this than my teacher

  • @ninalynmanao
    @ninalynmanao 2 месяца назад

    What will I do if it ask for the final velocity and mass of ball after bieng hit by a cue ball??

  • @HashemAljifri515
    @HashemAljifri515 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you man! I've been struggling algebraically to solve for v2 and v1 final from conservation of energy equation because it has square root. This equation really solves the problem without going into deep algebraic expressions

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  7 месяцев назад +1

      I'm just happy to help. Keep Learning!

  • @KarlRamstedt
    @KarlRamstedt 5 лет назад +8

    Great explanation, this is a lot less dry than most other physics explanations, thanks a lot!

  • @miko_shini5959
    @miko_shini5959 Год назад

    What if they have the same mass or kg but different velocity?

  • @lannwplayz8056
    @lannwplayz8056 2 года назад +1

    This helped so much! Thanks! And I love yer accent!

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад +1

      You can take the boy outa Alabama, but you can't take Alabama outa the boy. Thanks for watching!

  • @dwight6516
    @dwight6516 5 лет назад +1

    Thaaaaanks, this was the only problem i didnt get in school. 😄😄😄

  • @creek498
    @creek498 5 месяцев назад

    You're a lifesaver!!!!

  • @ericferro510
    @ericferro510 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks a lot man! God bless you@ :)

  • @sotirisntouvas
    @sotirisntouvas Год назад

    How you found out that the Velocity is m/s while at the same time the mass stayed in grams and not in meters???

  • @user-cs4by7ch8v
    @user-cs4by7ch8v 2 месяца назад

    Perfect explain ❤

  • @nuramylia7613
    @nuramylia7613 2 года назад +1

    thankyou sir , i understand it very well .

  • @brightonmudenda440
    @brightonmudenda440 Год назад

    Very helpful, Thank you.

  • @lovelymango2874
    @lovelymango2874 3 месяца назад

    Genuine life saver you are!

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  3 месяца назад

      in the back ground i'm hearing the eighties song "i need a hero" playing. No joke i'm about to youtube it now lol. glad it helped.

  • @rogergordon63
    @rogergordon63 7 лет назад +1

    IAn eccentric billionaire CEO has an office on the top floor. He insists on having a personal elevator installed that consists only of a giant spring that spans from the basement to his office when it is uncompressed. If his mass is 120kg, what spring constant in N/m is required so that he momentarily comes to rest on the ground floor?
    can you help me out with this problem please

    • @adame9711
      @adame9711 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's been 6 years have you found the answer?

  • @user-wt7su8de7y
    @user-wt7su8de7y 6 месяцев назад

    You just made it easy for me.

  • @jmcoote
    @jmcoote 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks a bunch!

  • @Nik-wo7hk
    @Nik-wo7hk 7 лет назад +63

    lmao this dudes accent

  • @chaigaii
    @chaigaii Год назад

    why didnt this work for my elastic collision problems :C

  • @ascan3985
    @ascan3985 5 лет назад +1

    Very helpful thanks

  • @fatimaibrahimi1433
    @fatimaibrahimi1433 4 года назад

    I had a question
    isnt the formula 1÷2×mu square +1÷2.....
    because we have this formula in our textbook

  • @fascinatingfacts07
    @fascinatingfacts07 Год назад

    Thank you so much for this!!!

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  8 месяцев назад

      you are very welcome :)

  • @huyvole9724
    @huyvole9724 6 лет назад

    Teacher, we have verlocity 1 and verlocity 2 after collision, and have we have Recipe to solve when they stop?

    • @guillem_dlc
      @guillem_dlc 6 лет назад

      You would have to know the type of friction, but of course, if the friction acts.... the collision is no longer elastic.

  • @pinto_8261
    @pinto_8261 Год назад

    Great video

  • @gatlatwal8499
    @gatlatwal8499 2 года назад

    Please help me calculate this
    a car of mass m moving at a speed of v1 collides and couples with the back of a truck of mass 2m moving initially in the same direction as the car at a lower v2.
    a) what is the vf of the two vehicles after collision?
    b) what is the change in kinetic energy of the car_truck system in a collision?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад +1

      9 Years old and a little long winded, but here it is my friend:
      ruclips.net/video/wRcPlK-bspw/видео.html
      The example I work the second vehicle has an initial v of zero is the only difference.

  • @abdulatiali9934
    @abdulatiali9934 7 лет назад +1

    how would i know wether there is a lost in the energy or not, would it say in the question that there is no lost of energy

    • @tammytao1744
      @tammytao1744 6 лет назад +1

      elastic = no loss of energy, inelastic = loss of energy

  • @ekn8907
    @ekn8907 Год назад

    This helped so much
    Thank you!!!

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  8 месяцев назад

      you are welcome :)

  • @AmyStylinson
    @AmyStylinson 5 лет назад

    God bless you

  • @asliruawetna5446
    @asliruawetna5446 4 года назад

    Thank youuuuuuuuuuu!!

  • @EdithMichelo
    @EdithMichelo 27 дней назад

    That was amazing

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  11 дней назад

      I would settle for better than average, but thank you :)

  • @acubed1933
    @acubed1933 2 года назад

    it help me a lot! especially with that sweet accent

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад +1

      sweet home Alabama lol. thanks :)

  • @vincentdelatonga222
    @vincentdelatonga222 Год назад

    why 10 mass become a velocity

  • @yonathanbogale6472
    @yonathanbogale6472 3 года назад +3

    Pov u got test tomorrow

  • @dustinhenderson9070
    @dustinhenderson9070 2 года назад +1

    just a quick question: if we have exactly the same problem but we do not know mass for each object, can we cancel the mass on each side?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад

      This reply is too late to help, but no no no. Said in the spirit of an upset toddler lol.

    • @illinnear7233
      @illinnear7233 2 года назад

      @@turdfurg67 In your first example i noticed that m2 is twice as large as m1. Would it not be possible to write it at such, and thereby allowing the masses to cancel out on both sides?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад +1

      @@illinnear7233 I remember once in college when I found a better solution to a problem and pointed it out to my professor, "You could do it that way mister, but some of us came here to work today".
      Seems better to cut down a student than to admit you had a brain fart. Good job :) It would be much much simpler math.

  • @anthonyn9096
    @anthonyn9096 7 лет назад +1

    thanks man.

  • @mp9772
    @mp9772 4 месяца назад

    Hey sorry, I dont understand sth… why is there a minus before the 5m/s when the vector already gives the correct direction? Would this not imply the ball going in the opposite direction of the vector direction ?

    • @oliviughmiooer9683
      @oliviughmiooer9683 3 месяца назад

      think of it as a number line. since this is one dimensional the 8 ball is going in the chosen negative direction.

  • @waphiphiphi4289
    @waphiphiphi4289 Год назад

    Thanks youuuuu

  • @skyrift7255
    @skyrift7255 8 месяцев назад +1

    I also have a question as to why you didn’t convert g to kg? Idk my teacher cuts marks for that😅

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  8 месяцев назад +1

      you're welcome and your teacher is ice cold. I don't because it makes no difference in the formula. I would argue with my teacher that the dimensional analysis still works, so I should not be deducted. Since the equation is basically mv=mv, then its basically a glorified proportion, so the units come out in the wash (excuse my alabama slang). If I was solving a problem of a Hydrogen nucleus, then I sure would not want to use 1.67 x 10^-27 kg, I would use 1 amu. If it hit helium then m1= 1 amu and m2=4amu. Mean teachers man, stop making physics ugly... That would be a good t-shirt.

  • @mahikannakiham2477
    @mahikannakiham2477 3 года назад +1

    There is something I don't get. Both balls go at 8 m/s relative to each other, so why do the individual speeds matter? From the perspective of the red ball, the black ball moves at 8m/s towards it and from the perspective of the black ball, the red ball moves at 8m/s towards it so it should be equivalent to saying that one ball moves a 0m/s and the other moves at 8 m/s?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  3 года назад

      You've said nothing egregious. I guess 6 years later looking back is I should have explained the reasoning, but I think in other older videos I had done that. The relative velocities are not our concern, but the conservation of momentum, so the initial momentum consisted of +0.030 kgm/s and -0.100 kgm/s. SO the initial momentum of the system is -0.070 kgm/s, which means the final is as well. Focusing on the momentum should have been a focus on the conservation, but a youtuber had just asked me to solve a problem like that, so I kept it as straight forward as I could.

    • @mahikannakiham2477
      @mahikannakiham2477 3 года назад +1

      @@turdfurg67 Thanks for answering. I should have specified that the reason I asked this question is because I thought there could be a way to simplify the problem by assuming one ball has an initial speed of 0 and the other has an initial speed of 8 (or -8) but I guess it wouldn't really simplify anything because at the end we would still have to convert the answer because the frame of reference isn't the same? Or it wouldn't work at all because both balls don't have the same mass? I am just curious.

  • @michellecustodio4107
    @michellecustodio4107 6 лет назад +5

    How did he derived the formula V1i+V1f=V2i+V2f?

    • @cosminanton5419
      @cosminanton5419 6 лет назад +5

      The cinetic energy conserves. So Ec1 = Ec2 and you will get something like m1(v1i^2 - v1f^2) = m2 (v2f^2-v2i^2), and you divide that with mv1i + mv2i = mv1f + mv2f which is also m1 (v1i - v1f) = m2 (v2f - v2i) and....you will get that :D=

    • @michellecustodio4107
      @michellecustodio4107 6 лет назад

      AlbOuse Banana oh, thanks!

  • @ilorah4835
    @ilorah4835 Год назад

    thank you!!!!

  • @abiyassefa8594
    @abiyassefa8594 3 года назад

    what if they don't give any velocity?? like they're from rest and have no final

    • @NowisFurther
      @NowisFurther 3 года назад

      0 initial momentum = 0 final momentum
      (v*m = momentum)

  • @kevencarlbaguio9146
    @kevencarlbaguio9146 Год назад

    Can I ask something? Why did you add 5 each side and where did 5 came from?

    • @adame9711
      @adame9711 11 месяцев назад

      Algebra, move the 5 to the other side to make V alone

  • @SotheaNuth
    @SotheaNuth 2 года назад

    Excuse me!!! what's Vi+Vf=Ui+Uf come from?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  Год назад

      It's derived from conservation of energy. There's another video on my channel where I derive it.

  • @newphobia
    @newphobia 2 года назад

    why we didn't consider the "ball no 11" to have the negative velocity?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад

      As in both have negative velocities, but one overtakes the other? The formulas are all the same. All that changes are the values you substitute into the equations.

  • @Adil_LC
    @Adil_LC 2 года назад

    thank you sir

  • @Gurrster
    @Gurrster 3 года назад

    Just what i needed

    • @Gurrster
      @Gurrster 3 года назад

      Thank you

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  3 года назад

      I needed someone to feed (Was that song reference reply too obscure in 2021?)

  • @ChiselaMwaba
    @ChiselaMwaba 23 дня назад

    Thank u very much 😊

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  11 дней назад

      you are toooooo kind :)

  • @Ggg-bb9kd
    @Ggg-bb9kd 2 года назад

    How about if one final velocity is missing?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад

      If one final velocity is given then you just need the conservation of momentum equation. plug and chug the answer. Let me know if you're still stuck.

  • @anderstainowusu9744
    @anderstainowusu9744 2 года назад

    Why did you subtracted-160 from each side of the equation?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад

      just separating it from the variables before final division.

  • @moon-ec4us
    @moon-ec4us 2 месяца назад

    4:33 why negative 5 not positive because kinetic energy does not depend on the direction?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 месяца назад

      we may have derived the special equation from using KE, but we are working with momentum and must maintain the vector nature. Forgetting (+) and (-) is the number one reason students miss points on these. I would teach you to always use your signs and in the advent of it being a scalar like work or energy, then it would eventually square itself out and become positive through calculations.

  • @miglioreo2900
    @miglioreo2900 5 лет назад +1

    I finally understand thx to you!You'll get sponsored if your name wasn't turdgurd. But what do i know im learning from you!

  • @hadialsayed
    @hadialsayed 10 месяцев назад

    I dont get it.🙂
    m1v1+m2v2= m1v'1+m2v'2
    Thats because its perfectly elastic so no KE gets lost.
    m1v'1= m1v1-m2v2
    P=m1v1 -----> minus
    P=m2v2

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  8 месяцев назад

      I'd help but I'm 2 months behind checking comments. sorry.

  • @ksksksksksksks9191
    @ksksksksksksks9191 4 года назад

    Howdy pardner'

  • @user-fg8mq1sz6p
    @user-fg8mq1sz6p 2 года назад

    اهه ياراسي

  • @ChiselaMwaba
    @ChiselaMwaba 23 дня назад

    Why haven't u converted the grams to kilograms?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  11 дней назад

      Sorry, I'm late on this one. You can do basic mv + mv problems without conversion because the units cancel out. That being said, if you want to do impulse or energy calculations then you must change everything to kg. It's just a lot of problems are just looking for velocity, so say for example it was a helium nucleus and a hydrogen nucleus colliding, then you could use 4 amu and 1 amu in the mv + mv portion and still come out correct and save you from using their x10^-27 kg actual values.

  • @gandalfwiz20007
    @gandalfwiz20007 Год назад

    Your voice reminds me of Red Dead Redemtion 2 character

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  8 месяцев назад +1

      I can handle that. Someone once said I sounded like Landry Clark from Friday Night Lights.

  • @tsariza
    @tsariza 2 года назад +1

    AAAAAAA MINE KEEPS CANCELING OUT CAUSE THE MASSES ARE EQUAL I JUST GET VF-VF=VI-VI

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад

      WHen they have the same mass it's beautiful. You still use the two equations in the video, but when you substitute them together all that happens if you prove the two particle exchange velocities. So if object 1 had a velocity of +2 m/s, then the final velocity of object 2 is +2 m/s. I'd add a picture, but youtube hasn't got there yet :(

    • @tsariza
      @tsariza 2 года назад

      ​@@turdfurg67 could you pls type up the the equations because I think I must be messing up... when I cancel out the masses nothing makes sense anymore to me :(
      On multiple choice I can just memorize that they exchange velocities but for free response questions I am screwed

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  2 года назад +1

      @@tsariza ruclips.net/video/Piw8dO5ENsA/видео.html Just for you. Good luck on free response!

    • @tsariza
      @tsariza 2 года назад

      @@turdfurg67 omg I love you 😭

  • @dad-ms8mz
    @dad-ms8mz Год назад

    I have lots to learn I see. 😶

  • @NowisFurther
    @NowisFurther 3 года назад +1

    Bro, ur final momentum isnt equal to the initial momentum, u are wrong
    m1 * v1 + m2 * v2 = m1 * vf1 + m2 * vf2
    10 * 3 + 20 * 5 = 10 * 7,7 + 20 * 3
    30 + 100 = 77+ 60
    130 = 137 ?

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  3 года назад +2

      You left the signs out of your calculations, which are vital to vector calculations. You also missed a decimal on the 0.3. The difference in momentum sums is 1, and that's because for the sake of instruction I did not keep decimals to thousands place. Thanks for watching and don't forget the directions.
      Also on the positive, even if I would have goofed which over 10 years has happened many times, at least there were no irritating adds to watch.

    • @NowisFurther
      @NowisFurther 3 года назад +1

      @@turdfurg67 u right, sorry

    • @turdfurg67
      @turdfurg67  3 года назад

      @@NowisFurther it's all good. Thanks again for watching.

  • @samuelcarneiro4482
    @samuelcarneiro4482 5 лет назад

    help a lot, thx

  • @assalmihassan6769
    @assalmihassan6769 27 дней назад

    emmm yes its yours hhhhhh

  • @l.e.eshomeoffun6609
    @l.e.eshomeoffun6609 Год назад +1

    𝖋𝖔𝖑𝖑𝖔𝖜 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖋𝖔𝖑𝖑𝖔𝖜