It's highly unfortunate that I have to announce the confescation of your vehicle. By civilian transportation law, I'm afraid that your car does not abide by the official regulations of the road. As per now, you will have to go through the standard procedure, of waiting for our law enforcers to replace the engine of your vehicle by a nuclear powered steam turbine. The mechanical work required to achieve this feat will also be charged from your bank account. But we hope you will continue to drive safely after you retrieve your new nuclear powered steam turbine propelled road vehicle. Thank you for your patience, and please drive safely from now on sir!
Tim Liao Then, have it equipped with that same system that Q did to 007's car a few years ago to make it COMPLETELY disappear to the naked eye; That way NONE of the cops & State troopers would be able to see your ass to catch U as U blast your way from coast to coast😉 👍
Clearly the way to go is a tank engine. 1500 hp at 2600 rpm. Not satisfied with the mere ~700 nm top torque of an F1 engine? The tank engine comes with 4700!
@@tony_5156 you underestimate a hummingbird dont you? Let me give ya the FACTS Hummingbirds average heart beat is 1200 beats per minute. Heart beats per minute of hummingbird during a REST is 250 whereas heart Beat per minute of a cheetah after a CHASE is 250.
@@agentakatosh4591 i actually Google searched the facts, but i knew that the Hummingbird will have a much faster heart rate compared to Cheetah (bcz biology).
Yes but the engine from a koenigsegg is about 5.0L which is easy to my big power reliabile wheres trying to make big power from 1.6L engine such as a f1 car is much more difficult
You probably wouldn't, though. Nuclear plants don't scale down well. That's the limitation imposed by the critical mass. Either you'll have too little fuel to sustain reaction, or you'll have so much "reactor" that you can't dump the waste heat.
Lawrence yea, kinda figured as much, just a interesting thought. Then again if a car was electric, in theory you could put a RTG on it to constantly charge the batterys, but the RTG probably wouldn’t be able to keep up with the usage.
Reminds me of the time I showed up 8 hours late to work. Everyone was grabbing their coats when I clocked in. By the time windows finished loading, I was told to shut it down and go home.
The heat part is actually not very correct (like quite a lot of technical details in this vid). F1 engines are generally very efficient and don't forget that if you're not using a ton of power (cruise) it's not generating all of the heat it can. There's a ratio between output power and heat generated. Cooling down an F1 engine is actually easier than say a turbo Chevy V8 capabele of 800hp, the F1 engine is more efficient and therefore generates less heat
I think the closest to an F1 engine put in a road car is the V12 put in the Ferrari F50. They took the 3.5 liter F1 V12 from their 1990 F1 car, bored it out to 4.7 liters and dropped the rev limit to 8500. It still had over 500 hp. It also had 350 lb ft of torque, but its torque peaked way up in the rev range. It sounds awesome.
@@archai2142 V10 swaped (not standard but upgraded in the car) doesn't sound very good in FH4, I actually like more the sound of V6/V8 Turbo ones over V10/V12, tho V10/V12 are better for high speed.
Mercedes' Norbert Haug kind of made that suggestion when they were discussing the switch to smaller displacement engines. He proposed to go with larger, say 4 liter V-8 engines that would have to last half or even the whole season to dramatically bring down costs. His plan got shot down almost immediately.
@@Leksuttaja149 you say that, but not really, yeah sure horsepower would be cut in half but torque would be doubled, which means exiting corners would be much more fun to watch
SlCKB0Y Most of that is spent on research and development. So once the engines up and running it’s relatively cheap to duplicate it. So sir I think we could possibly fit one to your vehicle for around the million mark. There, sorted.
For starting, you'd need what's called a "pony engine". This is literally a small engine that starts a much bigger engine, and was VERY popular in the early diesel days before high power starter motors were a thing. It would be ideal for making an F1 able to start more easily, as the pony engine can provide both the heat and the torque to start up.
The MGU-K (the big electric motor of the engine) can start it. So if the battery have a normal load and your engine is a working temp a f1 car start it self. See Lec at Spain GP2020.
New parts list: Pistons and crank that don't seize Cams that are tuned for lower rpm for torque, conventional valve springs, and less heat Cooling system Just a general detune for lower fuel flow, boost, and other things
An f1 engine in a road car, when people hear that they imagine a screaming n/a V10 from years ago At least that’s what I think of It’s the sound that makes the entire dream
DJ I’m saying that you don’t need to swap an F1 engine into a road car to get that feeling. Porsche already had that nailed down basically as good as you can get in a normal road car without resorting to ridiculous things like this. Hence my first comment.
I definitely agree with that sweet sound of a GT3 rs but, driving around town with a blown alcohol big block will have many believing that the apocalypse has come..
Also are you talking about the Mugen V10 from the MP4/5? It’s a 3.5 and the Honda V12s were WAY before Senna back in the 60s and were small engines I believe it was a 2.0L
A couple of little mistakes: 2:49 Energy is measured in Joules, while Power (Energy/time) is measured in Watts 7:49 If we know the distance the piston travels and the frequency (around 300 times per second, or 300 Hz) we can calculate its acceleration, so we don't have to consider its mass
@@shanematkorah the equation for power is: P=T*2*pi*RPM (where P is power and T ir torque. Pi is pi obviously) this will get you power in Nm/min. (Nm = Newtonmeters) The video uses kilowatts when measuring power. One kilowatt is 60.000 Nm/min So we have to divide our power equation by 60.000 to transform the result from Nm/min to kW We have a 60.000 in the denominator and a 2*pi in the numerator, so divide 60.000 by 2*pi and you get 9549. So power (in kilowatts) is equal to torque ( in Nm) times RPM, all divided by 9549, or: P=T *RPM /9549 Not sure if this explanation is good, only so much I can do in a RUclips comment. But look for a video by "engineering explained" called: why do horsepower and torque meet at 5252
It's about time you found out what that's like... You're 4ish percent of the world's population, but you force your horse and buggy maths on us ALL the time.....
F1 engines are designed for low miles life. If you want a 200k mile life need changes, structural changes.
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Actually, that's a bit misleading. 3 engines a season means an average of 7 grand prix per engine, including P1, P,2, P3 free practices, qualifying and race. Each race is on average about 300 km, qualifying may be up to 100 km (18 laps for Q1, Q2, and Q3), and there're 4 hours of free practice time (1.5 h for P1, 1.5 h for P2, and 1h for P3), let's assume they stay effectively on the track for 3 of those 4 hours at an average pace similar to the race pace, that would make 450 km. Total for an average GP: 450 km + 100 km + 300 km = 850 km. 850 km/GP * 7 GP/engine = 5950 km/engine (~6000 km/engine). Finally it must be taken into account that a road car is seldom subject to the same kind of abuse as an F1 engine, among other reasons because the conditions of the roads, streets and the traffic speed makes it virtually impossible (unless you drive your road car in a race track). If you drive your road car 10% of your mileage at race-track pace (what is quite optimistic), an F1 engine fitted into a road car properly cooled and serviced could last as much as 50,000 km before having to rebuild it, not far off from the average lifespan of the engine of a hyper-car or even of a supercar.
@ then i better off with regular car engine... If properly maintained.. Can last forever lol
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@@polong99, the performance of a regular-car engine is nowhere near. That's why the can last "forever." No supercar is powered by a regular-car engine either.
Not just the life span. Probably does not have optimum torque as well. F1 cars are really light and road cars are heavier. Emission laws and other stuff.
Dude this guy pretty much just explained to me just a piece of the innovation that has goes into making these f1 engines as quick as possible and now I like f1 cars
Is it even a mystery? There’s two OBVIOUS reasons: 1.- F1 engines are VERY expensive 2.- F1 engines are prone to exploding IE, you’d have a multi million dollar car that completely breaks down every 200Km that needs a highly trained mechanic to fix anything in the engine bay.
modern F1 engines have to do 7 races at 300ish km each, that is not even taking qualifying and free practice ( sometimes free practice is done on the old engines ) into account. simple math 300 times 7 is 2100 km of racing ( operating at the peak of performance ). So your notion about rebuilding every 200 km is completely redicuilous ( even if it was an exaggeration )
@@ElZamo92 my argument goes more along the lines of the fact that these people buy a car that they don't even own or have any kind of power over. Pretty sure you could sell them a F1 engined car which they can have from time to time too
@@Hutchslover After 14 years still these legends... XX car owners CAN take their cars home, Ferrari offers to manage the cars for them in checking in Fiorano, storage, shipping to the track and back, obviously most of the owners go with this because it is just easier for them as you would have to send them anyway in Fiorano since they do a double check of the cars (the already mentioned in Fiorano, in case replacing parts is needed, and the second one in the pits) before letting you go on the track.
FIA (few years ago): We have to reduce F1 engine sizes to reduce costs. We'll also save on development process by simply cutting out 2 cylinders from the actual 2.4L V8 engines and that's it. But actually we'll be spending fortunes to make them hybrid and turbocharged to compensate for the reduced engine size. Mercedes Chief: Actually we could save all that money if we could have just a simple and reliable big displacement engine like a 4.0L V8, easier to develop and maintain, which could potentially last an entire season so it would reduce costs a lot and also be ecological in the production process. FIA: Wait that's illegal. Mercedes: I'm gonna end this motorsport whole career.
It can also be a solution to the low rpm torque of F1 engines. Since electric motors provide 100% of torque at 0 rpm. So launching it from a standstill, or coasting in traffic jams, and driving in city streets wouldn't be a problem.
I saw a Charger with a ceramic F1 engine. No back seat, that's where the radiators, ductwork, and fans were. Warmed up with electric heated fluids and block heaters for 10 minutes to start. Sounded like a superbike. Instant power slide (with clutch dump) on an entry ramp. I got tunnel vision as a passenger. It was aero limited at about 150 mph. Nothing but swearing, drooling, and screaming (by me) for a 10 minute ride. It was amazing. He said he was able to drive slowly due to proper vehicle weight vs transmission gearing ratios combined with a custom rear locking transaxle. Basically, it had a high and low gear setup, which weighed a bunch. He did it for show and uniqueness.
@@drepark2294 yeah that's why the Aventador SVJ held the Nürburgring lap record while being faster than turbo charged cars like the Gt2rs, AMG GT R, or McLaren P1...
@@gilsondia You can solve low torque by having very short and close ratio gearing using torque multiplication. Today we have dual clutch transmissions, as many speed as you want out of it is possible. In the past, Honda did make that happen, the B16B VTEC engines in Civic Type R (90's) were torqueless due to small displacement, only 1.6L 4 cylinder but they do have power for a naturally aspirated engine for that era. The key to make it happen is the transmission. Those VTEC engines rev high and have close ratio transmission with short gearing.
simply because of 3 factors, 1. overall cost/practicability . 2. durability (tolerances that make parts meet the highest performance possible sacrificing lifetime) 3.and by its purpose, racing(no need for torque in low rpm), they are good running high rpms and hot, opposite to lets say facing a traffic jam.
@@161BMWYeah, but the problem is, is that Formula 1 car power units are highly compromised engines, there is really no point in putting it in a road car. The rules for engines in F1 are extreme, so you are setting yourself a huge disadvantage from the onset by putting one in a road car. It was like the laughable attempt Ferrari did with the F50.
Not much of a Mercedes fan, but using an F1 spec engine in a hybrid supercar is probably the best way to do it. The thing that kills an engine, especially F1 powerplants, is the constantly changing loads and demands, which changes the temperatures, which changes the internal tolerances, and causes all kinds of wear weirdness. In a hybrid, the engine can be kept at it's optimal power band, and the loads and operating temperatures would be kept fairly constant. Even an F1 powerplant could run a good long time if it only ever runs in its optimal load and temperature range.
The perfect would be a BMW i8 or a 3 series from 2010 with a BMW v10 engine from 2003/2004 But the one I would try someday would be an old mustang with an old Cosworth V8
I've got a fox body Capri and read up that Ford made a one-off version with a Cossie :) so it's definitely possible, and costs aside, probably very easy to do.
Radiators: not a big issue. Starter motor: not a big issue. Re tolerance engine: not a big issue. Main problem, F1 engines were developed to propel very light cars at very high speeds. They aren't going to be well suited moving heavy cars (1000kgs+) at low speeds.
Your ideal car with a Cosworth Engine is currently going to be built by Gordon Murray - Cosworth has given him a 3.9L 12400 rpm engine that can reach peak revs in 0.3 seconds of blipping the throttle. And it's durable and has regular road warranty. Of course, there's also the Valkyrie, but Gordon knows how to package a car better than anybody. If AMG can pull off the Project One, that would be a truly unbelievable achievement. They will of course use very exotic materials banned in F1 I think. The F1 unit in the Project One makes an unbelievable 479 HP / L on ICE alone, but actually Koenigsegg isn't THAT far behind, making 320 HP /L with the Jesko, but on E85, not high octane gas. On regular gas they make 258 HP / L. How they are going to get the engine to idle at 1000 rpm I have no clue. The engine needs to run hot just so that the parts can expand enough to allow them to move. As for that 31000 mile rebuild, I don't think anyone drives their cars that much anyway.
Dont bé afraid guys. Radiator calculation arent so nasty. Is just a mix of fluidynamics, heat transfet physics and material science. Mech. Engineering at its beast. They were the classes I Enjoyed the most in my degree
Were looking at this problem the wrong way. Simply make an electric car with then add a 2-400 horsepower petrol engine. You can get the performance of an f1 engine without any of the cold start issues. Though a seperate issue of syncing up the 4wd electric motors with the traditional engine does remain.
If you want a 'practical' solution I think a BMW E34 M5 Touring combined with an M12/13 F1 turbo engine from the 80's would be easiest to build (because of the size of the inline 4 cylinder layout). And it's just the coolest thing to have a normal looking station wagon pumping out 1100 bhp :-)
1. the real question here is why would you do that? 2. I would be more interested in a F1 car with a normal engine. A nice sport car to take out around the track in weekends and not braking the bank is always a nice to have.
The Aston Martin Valkyrie has already proven that it will be my eternal dream car(a well built scale model perhaps :P). I also strongly believe that it has already set the benchamark for the most glorious and powerful normally aspirated Corsworth V12 and probably will ever be the last of its kind after downsizing and turbo charging along with hybridization become main stream even for production legal hyper cars. Probably the most badass yet prettiest rear mid engined hybrid hyper car in its class, even if my opinion sound cliche.
F40 Ferrari probably the most honest street example of F1 crossover from race technology. Because technology changes by the day, it is probably way obsolete. But I would still love to own one.
My best combo would be an Aston Martin DB9 with Verstapen's F1 car engine. Though it wont last more than 1k miles before its blown due to the many reasons stated in this video. Simply, F1 engines are not road going engines (and never were intended to be so it doesn't make sense to put them in a road car). Therefore this kind of comparison is somewhat moot IMO. Apples and Oranges let say....
Lmao yeah right, imagine finding a local mechanic that actually knows what they are doing with one of those engines. Pull into the first place and it's like "Yeah mate I've worked on loads of them, could do it stood on me head" - breaks the engine and still charges you 10 grand for the effort.
"I'm sorry officer I can't go below 200km/h"
It's highly unfortunate that I have to announce the confescation of your vehicle. By civilian transportation law, I'm afraid that your car does not abide by the official regulations of the road. As per now, you will have to go through the standard procedure, of waiting for our law enforcers to replace the engine of your vehicle by a nuclear powered steam turbine. The mechanical work required to achieve this feat will also be charged from your bank account. But we hope you will continue to drive safely after you retrieve your new nuclear powered steam turbine propelled road vehicle. Thank you for your patience, and please drive safely from now on sir!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Twintwix123456789 bitch fuck you
@brownwings00 he's still funnier than you.
brownwings00 r/wooooooosh
Top rev of a regular car: ~6000 rpm
Idle of a F1 engine: ~6000 rpm
My Toyota Tazz would fly into the neighbour's garden after releasing the clutch by 2mm.
@@Ho3n3r definitely! 😂
@@Ho3n3r 😂😂😂
Infact the rev of a v10 f1 engine is way higher then 6k rpm on idle. Its like 9k rpm
What a logic
Question: An F1 engine in a road car.
Solution: Throw some proper mirrors, indicators and number plate onto an F1 car.
Hummm, that is smart
Tim Liao Then, have it equipped with that same system that Q did to 007's car a few years ago to make it COMPLETELY disappear to the naked eye; That way NONE of the cops & State troopers would be able to see your ass to catch U as U blast your way from coast to coast😉 👍
Mercedes wants to know your location
It still won't start without massive amounts of warming up and cranking and lot of tech support.
Der u go!
Lemme start up my F1 engine at 6am in the neighbourhood ... just to discover that it can't drive over my curb to get onto the actual road.
Sounds like my s2k is already an f1 car
and it's garbage day so you've inadvertently smashed into the cans..
Imagine sleeping and suddenly an arse starts his F1 engine swapped car at 3AM
HYRI :3 lol...😂
😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭
......neeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIInnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg......
and this is why the second amendment exists
IF YOU WANT A EXOTIC CAR BUY A CIVIC AND MODIFY IT FROM FACTORY DONE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD
Clearly the way to go is a tank engine. 1500 hp at 2600 rpm. Not satisfied with the mere ~700 nm top torque of an F1 engine? The tank engine comes with 4700!
with gearing, you wont get a tenth of that torque to the wheels
a yes but there’s still plenty torque to be had on the tank engine, and you will still lose a fair amount at the trans on an f1 engine too,
@@logantc.1353 throw away the trans, the car will be basically the engine on 4 wheels
Thapelo Mashao Masemola, didn’t think of that,
T33K3SS3LCH3N but the tank transmission tho!
I always wanted to rebuild my engine every 1000 km. That's why
I'd do it if I'd be able to drive such cars for free :D (Who wouldn't?) :P
Just buy a rotary and start practicing😂
@@hopla7942 😂😂😂😂😂savage
@@john-danielmartin8753 JK i love rotarys😂
Likelihood of these cars going 1000km is low, people buy these to own them hardly driver them
Merc: finally puts an f1 engine in car
James May: that’s casual, (replaces with fiat panda engine). STANDARD!
Lol!
But that wouldn't be standard
@@Emppu_T. r/whooosh
Ferarri already did it in the f50
@@lukas6610 Watch then video first, then comment.
Putting an F1 engine into a road car is like transplanting a hummingbird heart into a human.
More like the heart of a cheeta when it’s doing a ton of work
@@tony_5156 you underestimate a hummingbird dont you? Let me give ya the FACTS
Hummingbirds average heart beat is 1200 beats per minute.
Heart beats per minute of hummingbird during a REST is 250 whereas heart Beat per minute of a cheetah after a CHASE is 250.
@@davel7037 why do you know this
@@agentakatosh4591 you probably know weird shit about your favorite subject too im quessing cars dont ya?
@@agentakatosh4591 i actually Google searched the facts, but i knew that the Hummingbird will have a much faster heart rate compared to Cheetah (bcz biology).
When you think about it, Koenigsegg is already doing some insane stuff whilst keeping a reliable engine.
320 HP /L on E85 and 258 HP/L on high octane gas. But the F1 engine ICE alone makes 479 HP / L, on high grade gasoline.
Yes but the engine from a koenigsegg is about 5.0L which is easy to my big power reliabile wheres trying to make big power from 1.6L engine such as a f1 car is much more difficult
@@craigsmith5261 I hope Mercedes amg will soon get the hang of it. What they've tried doing, others would have just dismissed as impossible.
@@srinitaaigaura yeah but Koenigsegg gives you air conditioning and a livable space. Remember F1 engines aren't meant to last 100k km
Thomas Mcdonough koenigsegg gemera has a 2litre 3 cylinder engine which produces 600 hp
Let’s put pure F1 engine in Yugo, and leave the suspension as it is.
How long would person survive before first corner?
-12 seconds
Stevan Gucu i am dead.
Engine will blow itself up
Theo Whatmore you’re dead even before bolting the engine on
GY Kenshiro Omae wa mou shindieru.
Driver: Nani?
Explodes in -12 seconds.
I would like to see a nuclear powered steam turbine in a suzuki swift.
Twintwix123456789 you had me at nuclear!
You probably wouldn't, though. Nuclear plants don't scale down well. That's the limitation imposed by the critical mass. Either you'll have too little fuel to sustain reaction, or you'll have so much "reactor" that you can't dump the waste heat.
Lawrence yea, kinda figured as much, just a interesting thought. Then again if a car was electric, in theory you could put a RTG on it to constantly charge the batterys, but the RTG probably wouldn’t be able to keep up with the usage.
Eeeeeeeh! I just bought a 2008 Suzuki Swift a month ago
Lawrence the critical mass is actually suprisingly low, at a cpl kilograms, its the structure to safely contain and cool it thats the issue
“just got to my office, time to rebuild my engine”
*8hrs later
“All done! Time to go home”
It would only be 'all done' in 8hrs if you had a team of mechanics. Let's face it if you can afford the thing you can afford the mechanics.
Reminds me of the time I showed up 8 hours late to work. Everyone was grabbing their coats when I clocked in. By the time windows finished loading, I was told to shut it down and go home.
Actually sounds like the dream lol
The Egg why did you even bother going in lmao
Reason
1.heat
2.heat
3.heat
4.overheating
5.fuel consumption
You forgot reliability. Hard to have an engine in the car when it's been taken out to fix it.
As a rotary fan I feel attacked
@@rogerhu126 to be fair I don't go out to buy a sports car and expect it to turn into a Rabbit Diesel at the pump
The heat part is actually not very correct (like quite a lot of technical details in this vid). F1 engines are generally very efficient and don't forget that if you're not using a ton of power (cruise) it's not generating all of the heat it can. There's a ratio between output power and heat generated. Cooling down an F1 engine is actually easier than say a turbo Chevy V8 capabele of 800hp, the F1 engine is more efficient and therefore generates less heat
@@razortreadway aren't all fans rotary? 😋
I think the closest to an F1 engine put in a road car is the V12 put in the Ferrari F50. They took the 3.5 liter F1 V12 from their 1990 F1 car, bored it out to 4.7 liters and dropped the rev limit to 8500. It still had over 500 hp. It also had 350 lb ft of torque, but its torque peaked way up in the rev range. It sounds awesome.
amg p one??
Honda V10 that revs to 20,000RPM in an S2000 LOL
we need that swap in forza horizon 4
@@archai2142 V10 swaped (not standard but upgraded in the car) doesn't sound very good in FH4, I actually like more the sound of V6/V8 Turbo ones over V10/V12, tho V10/V12 are better for high speed.
Senna C. Its true, i love the rotary or the 1.4 l rally engines, especially in the Veloster N
how about the mazda 787b that revs up to 10500rpm at its fullest
Very close to my idea, respect
better question: IMAGINE if we put a typical 4 liter bi turbo AMG engine in an F1 car
The Twingo one into the Renault :)
Mercedes' Norbert Haug kind of made that suggestion when they were discussing the switch to smaller displacement engines. He proposed to go with larger, say 4 liter V-8 engines that would have to last half or even the whole season to dramatically bring down costs. His plan got shot down almost immediately.
I would drive it around the track flat out and film it then play it on RUclips in 1.5 speed playback.
that would be boring as hell
@@Leksuttaja149 you say that, but not really, yeah sure horsepower would be cut in half but torque would be doubled, which means exiting corners would be much more fun to watch
6.3M freakin' £ for the engine alone ????? there goes my dream of engine swapping my twingo ...
SlCKB0Y
Most of that is spent on research and development. So once the engines up and running it’s relatively cheap to duplicate it.
So sir I think we could possibly fit one to your vehicle for around the million mark.
There, sorted.
Don’t worry I’ve been able to find many v12s for sale
Even a Honda F1 engine
@@tony_5156 this one would be perfect for my civic ! V12-tech just kick'd in yo !
@@terrypeart3875 the problem is that the engine would be obsolete by next season, and R&D have to start over again.
SlCKB0Y hayabusa???
For starting, you'd need what's called a "pony engine".
This is literally a small engine that starts a much bigger engine, and was VERY popular in the early diesel days before high power starter motors were a thing.
It would be ideal for making an F1 able to start more easily, as the pony engine can provide both the heat and the torque to start up.
And actually drive the car when you don't want, or don't have time to use the F1 engine
The MGU-K (the big electric motor of the engine) can start it. So if the battery have a normal load and your engine is a working temp a f1 car start it self. See Lec at Spain GP2020.
Or just use an impact drill...
Renault: "yeah idc"
*makes the Espace F1*
Thats why I love Renault. Even for the road... RS Models everywhere. One of the best brands!
Lancia is the best
@@rinorm7709 was :(
Bmw M5: I am joke to you?
@@tommy.tomato yeah they broke nissan quality
Why can't I have a 12,000 horsepower Top Fuel dragster engine in my daily driver car?
Because you can't fill it with nitromethane daily
Because you arent trying an any% speedrun of your life.
@@martinshoosterman de_heaven any%
You would have to rebuild it after every run to the store.🤣😂🤣
@@martinshoosterman you won't need a dragster though. Just break that wall and go into the void
I would have the V10 from the 2004 BAR Honda and put it in an original Ariel Atom
That would end well. Lol!
Tbf, that would be doable and not too expensive either! I wanna see some madlad do it now😂
You would now have a Mercedes CLK GTR from 1999 aka a plane...
@@ananfaiz9900 Well the engine would be the back so possible a flyer or just a long place of time wheelier
@@grogzoom9437 you never know also LOL
It would be easier to buy an old F1 car and just made it road legal 🤷♂️
Yep
Not really if you look at modern EU emission and noise regulations
@@nik7bkh965 you can buy a v6 one, and fit an amplifier so it meets the noise requirements
@@nik7bkh965
Boo. Car poops bad gas.
Smh.
That v6 is not that mosquito as you think
Imagine this, swapping out a BMW S70 engine from a McLaren F1 LM for BMW's F1 M12 engine from the 80's that makes 1500 HP.
New parts list:
Pistons and crank that don't seize
Cams that are tuned for lower rpm for torque, conventional valve springs, and less heat
Cooling system
Just a general detune for lower fuel flow, boost, and other things
An f1 engine in a road car, when people hear that they imagine a screaming n/a V10 from years ago
At least that’s what I think of
It’s the sound that makes the entire dream
Not necessarily. When you hear that flat 6 scream from Porsche’s 911 GT3 RS, that mostly does the trick.
@@RB-xv4si
I'm not sure how your reply relates in any way to my comment
DJ I’m saying that you don’t need to swap an F1 engine into a road car to get that feeling. Porsche already had that nailed down basically as good as you can get in a normal road car without resorting to ridiculous things like this. Hence my first comment.
I definitely agree with that sweet sound of a GT3 rs but, driving around town with a blown alcohol big block will have many believing that the apocalypse has come..
Walker Forsyth this is true lol
Honda 3.5 V12 into the Honda NSX-R GT '02.
Because Senna...
that would be amazing.
Why not put the MP4/4 engine in? Mine is the Honda 1.5 TT V6 in a ‘94 NSX-R been my dream build for a while
Also are you talking about the Mugen V10 from the MP4/5? It’s a 3.5 and the Honda V12s were WAY before Senna back in the 60s and were small engines I believe it was a 2.0L
🤤
Yesss
Dacia Sandero with Senna's 3.5lt RA121E V12 Honda engine. would be the most iconic social media project to break the internet.
Prius
Good news!
talking about James may's Dreams! hahaha XD
@@santiagoestevez623 i'm pretty sure he would be upset with the 'performance' model of sandero especially if it would be developed in Nurburgring :)
milli pekmez and on that bombshell...!
Installing an F1 engine in a Honda Civic is like trying to get Prince Andrew to explain Epstein’s videos to Police.
I've actually considered this as an unusual swap: I always thought it would be pretty original to put a Cosworth DFV in a Toyota AE86 chassis.
A couple of little mistakes:
2:49 Energy is measured in Joules, while Power (Energy/time) is measured in Watts
7:49 If we know the distance the piston travels and the frequency (around 300 times per second, or 300 Hz) we can calculate its acceleration, so we don't have to consider its mass
what is that constant 9565?
@@shanematkorah dollars per minute
@@shanematkorah the equation for power is: P=T*2*pi*RPM (where P is power and T ir torque. Pi is pi obviously) this will get you power in Nm/min. (Nm = Newtonmeters)
The video uses kilowatts when measuring power. One kilowatt is 60.000 Nm/min
So we have to divide our power equation by 60.000 to transform the result from Nm/min to kW
We have a 60.000 in the denominator and a 2*pi in the numerator, so divide 60.000 by 2*pi and you get 9549.
So power (in kilowatts) is equal to torque ( in Nm) times RPM, all divided by 9549, or:
P=T *RPM /9549
Not sure if this explanation is good, only so much I can do in a RUclips comment. But look for a video by "engineering explained" called: why do horsepower and torque meet at 5252
@@polterp thanks for the detailed explanation! Much appreciated
@Omiros 99 No. Biomedical
"if you're rich and psychotic enough"
Had me laughing so hard 😂
Ik i laugh cause I'm psychotic enough. Just to hear that engine everyday I wake up ion give a sheet if I have some to do or not ima drive it.
Did he mention Rob Dahm XD
(I am a big fan of him btw, and love his ideas)
I liked the Renault Espace that had an actual F1 engine in it.
Gran turismo fanboy haha
@@Verdeniza not only gran turismo, it does exist
@@Lordcamilo2 Indeed it does, there's a couple of videos showing it in action.
Dont forget the ford transit supervan
puma77 ram All three of them you mean?
If someone was "psychotic" enough to do this they would need to have a full-time mechanic in their garage.
Enter GTA Online Mechanic
They'd probably need a team of people
jay leno
Better in the glove box 😁
Him: *Speaks in metric system*
Americans: "THANKS FOR THE MATH HOMEWORK!"
It's about time you found out what that's like... You're 4ish percent of the world's population, but you force your horse and buggy maths on us ALL the time.....
@@jarodatkinson5306 Our cr is 1/16 of a Texas Football field lol okay dont know how much that is notmyfault yeehaw
@@shreysatapathy1049 lol
@@jarodatkinson5306I’m English and I don’t think in metric, nor does Burma.
0:18 sounds like they really know how to party in the top level of motorsport
Exactly
Its not "putting it in" that's hard... It's the getting it to run and work. They put an F1 engine in a Transit van but that was a while ago.
was that the Supervan?
Yes it was. Very very fast and hilarious.
That was Supervan 2, the first version was basically a ford gt with a Transit body
There was also a Renault Espace F1
I think that was a Jaguar XJ-220 engine, a supercar engine not a formula 1 engine.
F1 engines are designed for low miles life. If you want a 200k mile life need changes, structural changes.
Actually, that's a bit misleading. 3 engines a season means an average of 7 grand prix per engine, including P1, P,2, P3 free practices, qualifying and race. Each race is on average about 300 km, qualifying may be up to 100 km (18 laps for Q1, Q2, and Q3), and there're 4 hours of free practice time (1.5 h for P1, 1.5 h for P2, and 1h for P3), let's assume they stay effectively on the track for 3 of those 4 hours at an average pace similar to the race pace, that would make 450 km. Total for an average GP: 450 km + 100 km + 300 km = 850 km.
850 km/GP * 7 GP/engine = 5950 km/engine (~6000 km/engine). Finally it must be taken into account that a road car is seldom subject to the same kind of abuse as an F1 engine, among other reasons because the conditions of the roads, streets and the traffic speed makes it virtually impossible (unless you drive your road car in a race track). If you drive your road car 10% of your mileage at race-track pace (what is quite optimistic), an F1 engine fitted into a road car properly cooled and serviced could last as much as 50,000 km before having to rebuild it, not far off from the average lifespan of the engine of a hyper-car or even of a supercar.
@ then i better off with regular car engine... If properly maintained.. Can last forever lol
@@polong99, the performance of a regular-car engine is nowhere near. That's why the can last "forever." No supercar is powered by a regular-car engine either.
Not just the life span.
Probably does not have optimum torque as well. F1 cars are really light and road cars are heavier.
Emission laws and other stuff.
Dude this guy pretty much just explained to me just a piece of the innovation that has goes into making these f1 engines as quick as possible and now I like f1 cars
The perfect combo would be Ferrari 458 with 3,2L V10 from early 2000's...
A Renault Espace with a V... Oh that's been done alright!
yes in 96 awesome car
Gran turismo memories
Is it even a mystery? There’s two OBVIOUS reasons:
1.- F1 engines are VERY expensive
2.- F1 engines are prone to exploding
IE, you’d have a multi million dollar car that completely breaks down every 200Km that needs a highly trained mechanic to fix anything in the engine bay.
modern F1 engines have to do 7 races at 300ish km each, that is not even taking qualifying and free practice ( sometimes free practice is done on the old engines ) into account. simple math 300 times 7 is 2100 km of racing ( operating at the peak of performance ). So your notion about rebuilding every 200 km is completely redicuilous ( even if it was an exaggeration )
You have heard of the FXX program, right?
Hutchslover But the FXX isn’t even a road car...
@@ElZamo92 my argument goes more along the lines of the fact that these people buy a car that they don't even own or have any kind of power over. Pretty sure you could sell them a F1 engined car which they can have from time to time too
@@Hutchslover After 14 years still these legends... XX car owners CAN take their cars home, Ferrari offers to manage the cars for them in checking in Fiorano, storage, shipping to the track and back, obviously most of the owners go with this because it is just easier for them as you would have to send them anyway in Fiorano since they do a double check of the cars (the already mentioned in Fiorano, in case replacing parts is needed, and the second one in the pits) before letting you go on the track.
Im not asking for much, just a Mk2 Escort with a 2 litre zetec on throttle bodies.
ok the cooling discussion is nonsense. OH NO “radiator calculations” how EVER would AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERS know how to do that 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah, and its not hard to put a couple of radiator fans on
or just any engineer!
"Can reach 1,500 PSI per second".
What? Per second?
Never heard of that. Per haps he means 1500 psi 300 times per second. 1500 psi peak combustion pressure sounds plausible.
F1 Engine in a Reliant Robin. The engine would only have to last to first corner at which point the car would rollover.
That should be taken to Dragweek.
Ford Cosworth DFV, in an AM General postal can. The ultimate sleeper.
The only one you’ll probs get your hands on is Renault’s but that will just break down so
Ford did one in a transit van as well as the Renault espace F1
Renault should make a current gen Escape F1 considering they still make Escapes and F1 engines!
"Pushed to the absolute limit..."
Yea, within the rules of the sport
FIA (few years ago): We have to reduce F1 engine sizes to reduce costs. We'll also save on development process by simply cutting out 2 cylinders from the actual 2.4L V8 engines and that's it. But actually we'll be spending fortunes to make them hybrid and turbocharged to compensate for the reduced engine size.
Mercedes Chief: Actually we could save all that money if we could have just a simple and reliable big displacement engine like a 4.0L V8, easier to develop and maintain, which could potentially last an entire season so it would reduce costs a lot and also be ecological in the production process.
FIA: Wait that's illegal.
Mercedes: I'm gonna end this motorsport whole career.
I just want a road legal Porsche 919 LMP1 car!
Yes!
My perfect combination is a Jaguar E-Type With a Cossie DFV V8.
That should be easily doable.
@@Bahamuttiamat I know right! Especially seeing as it is the most useable and winningest engine ever! AND it's a Cossie!
Kurtis Melrose can’t get that image out of my head now 😱
C Mosca Your welcome😋👍💘
Hear! Hear!
Pretty sure modern hybrid F1 engines can start themselves with the electric motor.
They can, with the assistance of the K.
They even have a special start button for it these days
@@Bahamuttiamat I feel like thats a pretty big part of this video that this guy completely missed haha
Wouldn’t do wonders to the cylinder walls with those tolerances on a daily basis I think.
It can also be a solution to the low rpm torque of F1 engines. Since electric motors provide 100% of torque at 0 rpm. So launching it from a standstill, or coasting in traffic jams, and driving in city streets wouldn't be a problem.
I saw a Charger with a ceramic F1 engine. No back seat, that's where the radiators, ductwork, and fans were. Warmed up with electric heated fluids and block heaters for 10 minutes to start. Sounded like a superbike. Instant power slide (with clutch dump) on an entry ramp. I got tunnel vision as a passenger. It was aero limited at about 150 mph. Nothing but swearing, drooling, and screaming (by me) for a 10 minute ride. It was amazing.
He said he was able to drive slowly due to proper vehicle weight vs transmission gearing ratios combined with a custom rear locking transaxle. Basically, it had a high and low gear setup, which weighed a bunch. He did it for show and uniqueness.
A Ferrari F50 chassis mated to a Schumacher era V10 F1 engine would be the most fantastic thing ever created.
The Mercedes V10 from the McLaren-Mercedes MP4 into the McLaren 720s, that would be insane.
And slower.
theghostinyourdreams lol you guys don’t realize big displacement naturally aspired engines are basically a thing of the past
@@drepark2294 yeah that's why the Aventador SVJ held the Nürburgring lap record while being faster than turbo charged cars like the Gt2rs, AMG GT R, or McLaren P1...
Pagani with a Ayrton Senna MP4-4 engine would me the best car you will ever see
Ayrton Nunez that is a very low torque engine only 29kg, you need a very light car such as 400kg even less 300kg maybe
@@gilsondia You can solve low torque by having very short and close ratio gearing using torque multiplication. Today we have dual clutch transmissions, as many speed as you want out of it is possible. In the past, Honda did make that happen, the B16B VTEC engines in Civic Type R (90's) were torqueless due to small displacement, only 1.6L 4 cylinder but they do have power for a naturally aspirated engine for that era. The key to make it happen is the transmission. Those VTEC engines rev high and have close ratio transmission with short gearing.
@@fleurdewin7958 true
The one and only Engine that could replace the wankel in a RX-7 engine bay is 2001 BMW 3 litre V10 F1 engine. 😀
I could deff cope w that swap into an fd hahah
simply because of 3 factors,
1. overall cost/practicability .
2. durability (tolerances that make parts meet the highest performance possible sacrificing lifetime)
3.and by its purpose, racing(no need for torque in low rpm), they are good running high rpms and hot, opposite to lets say facing a traffic jam.
Ford GT40 with a 2002 V10 from Ferrari. That would be a Hilarious Vehicle :D
A mugen v10 mounted longitudinally in a first gen nsx
JGTC aero
Wait, that thing works?
Why am i getting hard on that though, but its a JDM sin right?
@@yushanchen4193 Honda NSX Mugen RR Concept
I would love to have a nsx with the Honda mugen v10
same here
McLaren F1 with 2001 BMW 3.0 litre NA V10 F1 Engine
Do you mean that the McLaren F1 have a 3.0 BMW engine in 2001? It had a 6 litre BMW engine from 1992.
projectilequestion no I mean replace it with BMW NA 3.0 litre V10 engine from 2001
@@161BMWYeah, but the problem is, is that Formula 1 car power units are highly compromised engines, there is really no point in putting it in a road car. The rules for engines in F1 are extreme, so you are setting yourself a huge disadvantage from the onset by putting one in a road car. It was like the laughable attempt Ferrari did with the F50.
projectilequestion did you watch the video. They said what is your dream combination
@@161BMWAh, I see.
Scotty's 94 Toyota Celica nd an F1 engine will be so perfect.
Don't tell him first
Not much of a Mercedes fan, but using an F1 spec engine in a hybrid supercar is probably the best way to do it. The thing that kills an engine, especially F1 powerplants, is the constantly changing loads and demands, which changes the temperatures, which changes the internal tolerances, and causes all kinds of wear weirdness. In a hybrid, the engine can be kept at it's optimal power band, and the loads and operating temperatures would be kept fairly constant. Even an F1 powerplant could run a good long time if it only ever runs in its optimal load and temperature range.
I'll take "Questions Nobody Asked" for $1000, Alex.
The perfect would be a BMW i8 or a 3 series from 2010 with a BMW v10 engine from 2003/2004
But the one I would try someday would be an old mustang with an old Cosworth V8
I've got a fox body Capri and read up that Ford made a one-off version with a Cossie :) so it's definitely possible, and costs aside, probably very easy to do.
Aerial Atom with the crazy BWM 1500 hp turbo engine.
I could get about 100 yards before a rebuild
*funeral
My combo? Lotus Europa stuffed with a Ford Cosworth DFV. Light enough that the lack of torque shouldn't be too much of a hinderance off the line.
Radiators: not a big issue.
Starter motor: not a big issue.
Re tolerance engine: not a big issue.
Main problem, F1 engines were developed to propel very light cars at very high speeds. They aren't going to be well suited moving heavy cars (1000kgs+) at low speeds.
Shows a early 2000's f1 car, that had a v10 engine
Talking about a v6 hybrid engine
hyprid f1 engines don't have start motor? ok...
@@samsan1254 the Renault, Honda and ferrari engines can be started with the electric motor
@@ads2686 that was sarcasm
89 prelude with a mugen V10🔥💥🔥💥🔥💥🔥
I'd take a BMW M12 on full 4.5bar boost and put in into the car it originally came from, the 2002 Turbo.
Your ideal car with a Cosworth Engine is currently going to be built by Gordon Murray - Cosworth has given him a 3.9L 12400 rpm engine that can reach peak revs in 0.3 seconds of blipping the throttle. And it's durable and has regular road warranty. Of course, there's also the Valkyrie, but Gordon knows how to package a car better than anybody.
If AMG can pull off the Project One, that would be a truly unbelievable achievement. They will of course use very exotic materials banned in F1 I think. The F1 unit in the Project One makes an unbelievable 479 HP / L on ICE alone, but actually Koenigsegg isn't THAT far behind, making 320 HP /L with the Jesko, but on E85, not high octane gas. On regular gas they make 258 HP / L.
How they are going to get the engine to idle at 1000 rpm I have no clue. The engine needs to run hot just so that the parts can expand enough to allow them to move. As for that 31000 mile rebuild, I don't think anyone drives their cars that much anyway.
Dont bé afraid guys. Radiator calculation arent so nasty. Is just a mix of fluidynamics, heat transfet physics and material science.
Mech. Engineering at its beast. They were the classes I Enjoyed the most in my degree
I have seen this video before. Luckily i forgot everything and i can re-watch it all.
I would have the McLaren F1 with the Honda engine that powered Ayrton Senna's championship drives.
That engine in the 02 NSX-R 😍
Would you like fries with that?
@@m.b.82 ask your fat orange colour president
terrysky83 hahaha what the fuck are you on
The cosworth v10 engine that does 18 to 20k rpm in a 2005 mazda miata. Pure blissful insanity! 🤣
Regarding starting: nope, they can be started now from the inside of the cockpit, you don't need those enormous external starters anymore.
Were looking at this problem the wrong way. Simply make an electric car with then add a 2-400 horsepower petrol engine.
You can get the performance of an f1 engine without any of the cold start issues. Though a seperate issue of syncing up the 4wd electric motors with the traditional engine does remain.
Honda BAR V10 , I swear the best F1 sound
I agreed they have to put that in the new nsx
0:39 you forgot to mention the case of the Renault Espace F1
And the alfa romeo 164 procar
I've really always loved the Espace F1, so cool, though not road legal. The best van ever!
Who is doing the audio adjustments for this channel? Is it too much to ask that the volume be consistent throughout the whole video?
Also who would have thought that putting a microphone underneath 59 layers of clothing would muffle the sound? Who could have possibly foreseen that?
probably no one :D
If you want a 'practical' solution I think a BMW E34 M5 Touring combined with an M12/13 F1 turbo engine from the 80's would be easiest to build (because of the size of the inline 4 cylinder layout). And it's just the coolest thing to have a normal looking station wagon pumping out 1100 bhp :-)
Mine would be the F50. It already has an F1 engine and I love the way it looks.
Imagine a ferrari f1 2004 v10 engine that goes 18k rpm or the honda v10 engine that went 20k rpm put on a golf 2.
Honda meanwhile : "Why it's difficult to put a GP2 engine in an F1 car"
Still better and more reliable than Renault's this year
Pretty sure they just won Austria
Have you been watching F1 at all?
Max Verstappen in the Honda powered RB9: am I a joke to you?
I would like a Mercedes (Lewis Hamilton) 2019 engine in Yellow Robin Reliant.
A Ferrari F40 with a Ferrari naturally aspirated V12 from early 90's would be the dream car for me.
1. the real question here is why would you do that?
2. I would be more interested in a F1 car with a normal engine. A nice sport car to take out around the track in weekends and not braking the bank is always a nice to have.
A scirocco from the early 80s with a mid mounted Ferrari v12. XD
The Aston Martin Valkyrie has already proven that it will be my eternal dream car(a well built scale model perhaps :P). I also strongly believe that it has already set the benchamark for the most glorious and powerful normally aspirated Corsworth V12 and probably will ever be the last of its kind after downsizing and turbo charging along with hybridization become main stream even for production legal hyper cars. Probably the most badass yet prettiest rear mid engined hybrid hyper car in its class, even if my opinion sound cliche.
No one:
Not a soul:
Me: What about Top Fuel engines?
F40 Ferrari probably the most honest street example of F1 crossover from race technology. Because technology changes by the day, it is probably way obsolete. But I would still love to own one.
My best combo would be an Aston Martin DB9 with Verstapen's F1 car engine. Though it wont last more than 1k miles before its blown due to the many reasons stated in this video. Simply, F1 engines are not road going engines (and never were intended to be so it doesn't make sense to put them in a road car). Therefore this kind of comparison is somewhat moot IMO. Apples and Oranges let say....
So interesting! Going to watch again when I'm sober.
It's hard because it will cost you 10k for a oil change
Not when you use halfords fully synthetic
A Bugatti oil swap costs more
Lmao yeah right, imagine finding a local mechanic that actually knows what they are doing with one of those engines. Pull into the first place and it's like "Yeah mate I've worked on loads of them, could do it stood on me head" - breaks the engine and still charges you 10 grand for the effort.
Autozam AZ-1 with CBX1000 engine... Yeah, it is not F1 engine but it sounds like one
Genius. That would kind of be like the 60's honda transverse v12 f1 car, that the cbx engine was vaguely derived from.
I greatly desire putting a 13B in an AZ1
Or put in the highest revving F1 V10 into it
A Ferrari V10 F1 engine in a Lotus Elise. It would just be a really high revving fairly high power really light fun road car to throw around.
1982 bmw e21 with the 1600hp m10 with the m127 head. A killer combo that will last 5 minutes.