The Future Of Paper Magic Is Not What We Thought | Dies To Removal # 40
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2022
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The thumbnail makes it look like Alan Rickman and Mark Hamill are going to talk about mtg
No skit???
One has to wonder if you got many individual predictions correct, but the major thesis was completely wrong, what does this mean about the professor's biases. He can see individual things that will happen, but struggles putting this into the correct context. I think this is largely due to his biases against WOTC. You can replace every time he says the word "destroy" or "wreck" with "grow" or "bolster" and he would be far more correct. Prof would rather say they "accidentally" made MTG grow than purposely. Hard to continue to trust him.
Why did you Photoshop Brian to make him look old but just leave Vince as he is?
Editor doing the little zoom in and focuses on who's talking every now and then to give the episode a more animated feel than most fixed camera talking podcasts, your work is seen and appreciated
I want to second this commentary and thank them for bringing this to light.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's a good method to keep things from feeling quite so static
You mean the bare minimum?
@@Big_Dai The bare minimum would be a stationary camera between the two of them that just gave the same view the entire time.
What's up with the negativity?
He hires an editor and script writer. He literally Said this. It's nice to see without the script.
im always gonna prefer paper magic over online. it just feels better.
It's almost like owning a product feels a lot better than simply 'renting it'
I love paper magic so much online
*shuffles* …
*shuffles*
It does feel better. Especially playing in a POD with friends and thrash talking.
In person too is what I want to lean towards, when I play on spell table it always feel like people always have the best starting hand and always conveniently have counter spells or Tefferis protection in hand
I feel sad as I ve only attended one major GP and at the time I thought "thats fine, I ll grow up, have more money and will visit a plenty more GPs". Now I'm a grownup, I have money to travel (around Europe at least), I have cards but there are no more GPs and travel is very restricted as well.
That’s rough buddy. Hopefully things will turn around soon.
I always wanted to attend a MTG tournament
Similar. Have time, money, free work, cards. No major events... At least magic weekends.
At least Cardmarket might still organise MKM series in the future.....
No matter what they do, you'll never become a World Champion again by just grinding local, regional and national tournaments.
The pauper protest is a great story. Props to those madlads
Better ban basic lands just to be safe
I love kitchen table magic. I believe that it is the purest form of magic the gathering!
what if your kitchen doesn't have a table?
that only works if you have friends that want to come over and play. I haven't had that in over a decade
I agree. All of my decks r janky
@@inquisitr1892 Really? I am sorry about that. Without kitchen table magic, I would of quit years ago. I love it, we play every Friday. Not commander just our 60 card batyle decks. I wish you the best.
Cheers!
@@inquisitr1892 yep. I'd agree it's obviously the best form of magic, but I don't have any friends I can invite over and play with right now
The joy of Taco Bell is that eating it is one of the most forceful reminders of the sheer banality of life. That seven-layer burrito is incredibly... there. It's inoffensive. It has flavours, but nothing that would cause you to remark on them. Its presence is its feature.
The magic club at my school is mainly commander. Some new people came in with their 60 card decks, so I sat down for the first time in years and played some casual 60 card games and it was crazy fun, way more than I got from commander games in the past. I still enjoy both, but I think 1v1 is my favorite
I bet it was because the Commander group is now power-crept to cedh levels, eh?
Everyone running turn 1 Sol Ring, right?
@@vmcampos it was 60 card that made me get into commander. If u can't throw down 20 damage in 3 turns your deck is no good. Commander has become faster, 60 card always was. Turn 1 sol ring is better than turn 2 Emrakul
I'm with you on that. 1v1 allows much more interaction. In commander I feel obligated to blitz to a combo to win and just hope nobody gets there first.
Its got a reputation for being casual but you can built commander decks that win as fast or faster than any standard 60 card deck. There is nothing about commander that makes it more casual that 1v1.
@@josephcourtright8071 So true. My locals recently quit doing Modern because everyone is on the Commander train. I've played Modern for 6 years now and I sat down to play Commander with these people thinking my tradebinder deck might be a bit strong with stuff like Sylvan Library. Then they started comboing T2 or T3 basically every game. Completely not fun experience and so hard to interact with unless you're playing the same super strong cards. Definitely an outlier because how many people have real Workshops but still.. made Modern look slow.
Yeah, I got burnt out on EDH because of the nature of that format. 60 card is just very straight forward.
Paper Magic for me as someone who started back in Winter of 1996 with "Deutsch Limitiert" (German Black Border Revised with Duals and all), Homelands, Ice Age, Mirage etc. i have fond memories of being 10 years old and going to the small Fantasy/TCG/RPG Shop in the next bigger Town and spend all Day going through the MTG "5 Pfennig(Cent) per Card" Cardboxes with Friends and start collecting and then playing on the Floor in that Store and at Home and i've been collecting since then.
That Store Owner had a half-burnt Alpha Black Lotus framed above the Counter, back then an Alpha Black Lotus was about 300 Deutsche Mark (so like 300-400 bucks) and even back then we thought "Wow! a Card is worth 300 bucks! and he burnt it accidentally!" - I wonder what that Owner thinks about his half burnt Alpha Black Lotus now, i bet it's still framed haha.
But yeah Paper Magic is essential for me and most People i know who play and collect as long as i do.
Thank God Saffron Olive isn't an e-sports/competitive MTG Player, he's one of the last people who plays Brews & Jank and doesn't care much about the Deck being competitive. Too many Content Creators (Not you two either, thank god!) always play the same Decks or purely Tier 1 Decks, which gets boring very fast.
Prost & Cheers from the Snow-Covered Bavarian Alps here in Germany
What do the snow covered alps tap for?
@@Sariusify black
They totally realized how much work would go into keeping arena working.
Every episode of DTR is a gem, the chemistry between you and Vince is genuine and creates real honest discussion and original thought. So happy it’s made it so many episodes, I certainly appreciate the both of you and what you do for the community.
Sometimes it's not only about the Wizards. In some countries a lot depends on the local distributors WHO work with Wizards, the distributors who are responsible for all paper magic and promotion of the game within a certain state. I can say that in Russia for instance the distrbutors' activity has been in a constant decline for several years (it started before the pandemic, so we can't blame it on that). We haven't seen any promos for Commander legends, nor the ones for Love your LGS etc. Now they are telling us that the release of Kamigawa and Double feature is going to be delayed for some weird logistics reasons. From what we can see in our local community - distribution of Magic in Russia has been locked up in some person's hands (literally, it's just one or two individuals doing that) for quite some time, and currently these persons have got tired (or just lazy) of doing their job but at the same time they don't want to let it go. This confusion and almost total lack of support is now building up in our community and we are about to create a collective petition to the Wizards in order to make them look at our problem and solve it somehow.
Petition sounds good. Hope it gets resolved over there. That sounds super annoying
I remember my store owner once having to drive all the way to their distributor located in a different country just to get sealed products. I guess that's less practical in Russia.
That sounds super annoying for sure. The petition sounds like a good idea to create more visibility at WotC for your problem. All the best to you guys, hope it all changes for the better!
There is nothing quite as satisfying as sleeving up a heavily played Demonic Tutor. Relish in the history, the love,
Yeeeee
Heavily played>>>
Remember: there's nothing wrong with heavily played cards. After all, what's the point of the cards if not to play with them?
There is nothing quite as satisfying as unsleeving and heavily playing power 9s. Relish in the history, the love,
They can't SEE how many people play paper Magic. They can only tell that they're pissing us off enough to make us proxy every cEDH card we can find now so they lose money to paper due to their own stupidity with how they treat the aftermarket based on artists conflicts of interest royalties and yada yada
New Dies to removal without huge gaps between episodes… life is good 🤩
Never caught one this early Im sure it is going to be entertaining
The episode we reference, The 5 Year Plan To Cut Paper Magic Support can be viewed here: ruclips.net/video/MMVZpPlCCE4/видео.html It also includes "Steamed Hams, But Magic The Gathering."
That was two years ago?!
I must know: what is the professors favorite Pokémon?
tabletop sim :D
@@ryancoldiron554 Muk. Favorite starter is Chikorita. I will not play a Pokemon game if I can't have these two in it somehow.
@@TolarianCommunityCollege Muk is such a great choice. I've had a soft spot for the Kanto Poison types myself since I was a kid, Muk being the clear best of the Muk / Weezing / Arbok.
Thoughts on Alolan Muk, if you're familiar?
I've got weekly kitchen table magic games that are more memorable and sought after than any online match I've played. Same goes for any draft or event.
Sweet! It’s a good thing revoking paper support barely touches that experience 👍
I’ve been buying various draft boxes to play later with a group of friends. I love having the cards in hand. I use arena to learn, but ultimately I want tangibility and hanging out with people who play.
Just started playing magic in December of 2021 and I can’t get behind arena I personally love paper cards and started using spelltable to utilize webcams to play online with friends. Spelltable is really cool with a bit of work on the video card tracking it would be perfect.
there's just something to having the cards in your hands, am I right?
Our playgroup is the same. More Spelltable support would be cool!
you will get back into it. when a set comes out that you like.
When it comes to me spending money as a customer. I'm not going to pump money into an app but I will invest money into magic the gathering cards....paper cards get my paper.
I only send people to the app to get a basic understanding of how to play before we meet up. Other than that I don't recommend it at all xD
Paper for paper, a fair trade.
I mean you were never paying for arena or mtgo with paper literally tho.
Paper cards are liquid that's why
@@bradleymalcolm2382 Same. I recommend to it people who say they're interested in the game as a great tool to learn the game, that's free unlike the old Duels of the Planeswalkers games (a huge part of how I personally learned years ago); I do not really recommend it to anyone already established in paper or on MTGO, as I personally just do not really like Arena or honestly think it's all that good compared to say the even brand new Yu Gi Oh digital game.
Fun agriculture fact: Some crops grow best if you burn them after harvest, leaving the ashes as fertile soil for the next year's crop. So your metaphor is pretty on point.
I'm 30 years old and growing up, I learned about Magic from watching 3 older cousins play it. They were playing multiplayer. I'm from a small town and it never had a local game store of any kind. I didn't even know that there was competitive play until I was in college. I learned the game playing multiplayer with my two brothers. Then in college I learned about EDH and have almost exclusively played that and have played it with at least 4 players.
I wonder how unique my experience really is. I've never known about FNM or GPs or any of that before watching it mentioned it in RUclips and the idea of playing head to head with a stranger is just not very appealing to me whatsoever. None of my friends or family have played competitively in all this time. Yet we all love the game. When I think about Magic the Gathering, I think about multiplayer.
Just felt like sharing my personal experience, I guess.
My experience is very similar to yours. At the time, 10 years ago, we had this new friend join our group and one day as we got together he pulled this huge set of cards out of his backpack and casually mentioned what it was about.
I thought it was just some dumb game at first but that same day we spent the entire evening playing a multiplayer variant that I believe doesn't fit any format I know about... And since that's the way we learned it that's the way we like to play it; always 4 or 6 players in teams, where each individual player has his turn alternating with the adversary, life total is shared, defense is done as a team but attack is individual. 40 or 60 life total depending on number of players. It's not commander though it isn't exactly two head giant either, and every card ever printed is allowed. No maximum hand size limit, which leads to some really fun (or annoying) interactions.
Also, since MTG cards are hugely expensive here, only recently did we decide to print proxies, which has renewed my love for the game since I can't really afford spending that much money on cards.
reminds me of when i found out about "official" uno rules😂. imo card games are best playing with people you know using house rules, like every board game.
The problem with broadcasted magic tournaments is they never had good broadcasting personalities that could take the lead and make it entertaining for a general audience
I remember it being a bit difficult to get into even as a casual magic player. Pretty confusing when you don't already know what most of the cards do.
I don't think it's a lack of personalities. They had some pretty good commentators.
you mean like poker tournaments? not unless there is 50k on the table for each game of magic. like asking why "chess tournaments" aren't more popular.
I play a lot of paper Magic via zoom, whereby, etc. allows me to enjoy Magic with friends across the county and in Europe, and is much more enjoyable for me than Arena or MTGO.
Playing in person is still my favorite, but this has been a good workaround.
I spent the first minute of the video waiting for the funny part of the skit to start up and then realised that you'd eschewed the cold open this episode
Afraid we ended up short one skit for this batch. They'll return with the next batch.
It's cause the whole video is a skit. Don't take anything you hear here as fact
noooooooo
Personally I like the snappy intro into the meat of the video - the sketches always felt clunky and superfluous
@@AtsAreStupid stop coping idiot
...........and right after this podcast Alchemy was born.
R.I.P paper magic (1993 - 2021)
I just think about how, in 50 years, if the game has gone completely down the drain and online support is gone, at least I can bust out these old paper cards and tell my grandkids about what it was like
Lol! That's cute. Tell me again how much you care about grandpa's Tiddlywinks, hopscotch, or pick up sticks stories! 😄
I grew up pretty close to my grandpa, so I loved the old toys he had
@@julioborjon4389 Oh yes, totally comparable games.
You'll be dead in 50 years
@@julioborjon4389 I totally played with my maternal grandfather's tank models when I was a kid. And my paternal grandfather taught me chess.
While I don't have any kids myself, I can totally see people teaching their grandkids how to play M:tG or letting them make collages with their bulk when everything goes OOP.
great episode but im honestly just impressed with how much the audio has improved. I watched the referenced episode when it came out and didnt think much of it but your newer videos sound amazing
The premium game store thing is so weird. I live in the Boston area, there is not a premium store that is less than an hour away from Boston. The legendary Pandemonium Books and games of Cambridge, where basically everyone who plays magic (and many other games) and works or goes to school in Boston goes to play is somehow not one. New Hampshire, where I grew up, Vermont, and Maine do not have a single premium store. You either need to go to that store an hour out of Boston or I guess be SOL. At least for NH, it is not like it is hard to find a LGS, growing up I couldn't throw a rock without hitting one. What a weird program.
I think Hammer's Comics in Manchester is a premium store. On South Willow by the 99 steakhouse.
I Loved the idea of Taco Bell tokens in 50:30...
It is funny because I have a 'devour deck' in which I use PISTACHIOS as SAPROLING TOKENS;
and when I 'devour' them, I eat all the Saproling tokens (the pistachios)
It is funny and delicious !
I liked this podcast a lot.
You have many good points that the community has thought about.
But you have put words to our thoughts. Thank you.
(Edit for typos)
On the secret lair conversation. I had quit for about a decade. A secret lair came across my feed and that's actually what brought me back
secret lair is a shame. strictly for collectors. not players. not legal in any format. just stupid fan fare.
Arena fails on two points: Cost of entry to play and the basics of what Magic is: a TRADING CARD GAME. Without a thriving card economy and being able to buy tickets and trade for cards you need it just fails. Zero interest in putting money into that hole.
Just play for free. If you are careful the rewards are relatively good from what I can see
Especially with how quickly they yanked the plug on its predecessor
Also it seems impossible to play fun janky kitchen table decks on Arena as the economy pushes everyone to play the best decks to get the daily quests. Makes it too repetitive and dull for me. I lost my love after playing Dimir Rogues or Mono Red 5000 games in a row!
Same. If I spend cash, my lgs is going to get it.
it costs 0. you have to play games to get coins then buy more packs. thats what i did. i only spend money on the mastery pass. thats it.
I always enjoy your lowkey economical talk about distribution and the thought processes behind that ^^.
Great conversation. It would be really interesting to see what you would have said about alchemy in the context of paper v digital and the longevity of the later. Thanks again.
Paper games with my friends at home is by far my absolute favourite way to play magic
As much as I love over-the-table TCGs in a casual setting the digital clients are almost always going to be my preference for competitive play. No calling a judge over rules conflicts, no worrying that your opponent is doing something underhanded, no oppressive smell of body odor, and the cards are far more accessible than they are in paper.
A great morning video to start the day with!
Morning!
@@TolarianCommunityCollege And good morning to you Professor! :-)
Good morning to you both!
Good evening to you all!
Professor is awesome. I love that they have no shoes on. Like two buddies talking shop in the living room. Very down to earth.
For some reason I only noticed pleasntkenobi being aged up in the thumbnail. Was wondering why the prof was speaking to slavoj zizek.
When I first started playing Magic: The Gathering, I was told that once you get good, you can make money since Wotc pays you in tournaments, that’s what compensated the overly expensive packs. I’m starting to think most people don’t believe that Wotc owes something to competitive paper mtg players
Because they don't. Interestingly enough, I know a number of pretty competitive players, who went to any GP they could afford the time and money for attending. But I hardly ever saw anyone, casual or competitive, fanboying over specific players. The pro scene as such was appealing to a certain type of player, but it failed to produce the kind of heros of the "sport" that could be marketed to fresh players. That's why it ultimately was scrapped.
The best part about Magic is The Gathering. Gathering with friends in person to play games is always going to be leaps and bounds better than any online game. The peak of multiplayer video games was the system link days because you may have been playing a video game but you were gathered with your friends in person.
I still do everything I can to try and go to the Lgs just to try and play commander with people even now, it’s the only thing keeping me interested in the game
I was hoping another of these would arrive soon 🙏
I like your point alot about 1v1 catching up to commander. I learned to play magic through Commander and have played other formats very VERY little in the past 6 years of playing. Yet I find myself gravitating towards other formats more and more these days, as I am wanting something a little different time to time.
I think all of the evaluations here are correct with one minor tweek. They are now intending to cycle through focuses every couple years. Focusing on different product sets every couple years spikes interest and generates more money. It will cycle back to online again in a few years
DTR is the highest quality MTG content on the platform, thanks Prof and *Vince*
That's incredibly kind of you to say.
The idea of 1v1 being a palette cleanser to commander really resonated with me. I want to play with all the guild kits again!
I will say; I was an off and on Magic player pre-pandemic, but got really into playing Arena for about the past year during the pandemic. However last night I went to an actualCommander draft for FNM and it was so fun to actually talk to people, rather than alone at my computer screen. I also bought a bunch of product to play paper more often. I hope paper stays strong!!
Whew,what a relief! I saw the thumbnail and thought,"My God,who
are those two old geezers,and what have they done to the Professor and Vince?" 🤣🤣🤣
Prediction: "someone is going to make money out of Magic"
You guys should have a Horoscope channel.
Professor- Seeing how Wizard's has behaved in recent years, I'm wondering just how much of this is prediction and how much of what they're doing is life imitating art.
I died laughing immediately upon seeing this thumbnail.
I'm only sad because I'm still catching up on the podcast.
Stellar content as always.
Was a good laugh.
Great talk as always.
Yeah, I like my dice and life counters and mats too much to give up on paper. Oh yeah and then there's no hassle when wanting to play with your friends. It's livelier and you don't have to have headphones in order to talk.
Genuinely hope this prediction of paper magic booming turns true, as recent times has not looked good. If they can genuinely get organised play events for paper sorted out (go Huey go) then maybe there's hope, but the damage is already happening to local stores. The longer they delay, the harder the climb back might be.
I hope you guys do more webcam recordings because you guys tie with Drive to Work and Good Morning Magic for my favorite Magic content.
Prof bringing up the "Donut" comment again at 45:24 again absolutely cracked me up!
Watching this latest DTR talk about the state of MtG arena while also having witnessed the launch and reactions to Yugioh’s new Master Duel, it’s all very quaint really. Konami, one of the most shameless and greediest Triple A gaming company on the planet, knew how to get things right about a digital card game platform that’s also influenced by its paper product.
I mean, Konami ain't the company who made $100 booster packs, either. Of the two companies, I think WotC easily has surpassed Konami in terms of shamelessness.
Just watched the NRG series Legacy on Twitch and loved it!!! I sure hope some GP type tournaments will come back after the covid.
i just got to say whoever did the old prof and kenobi makeup did a fantastic job.
As someone who joined by playing commander, Arena actually got me into 1v1 magic. I loved Historic (until Alchemy) and it actually got me to start playing modern at FNM. And just like you said, it's been the perfect palette cleanser for games of EDH. It scratches a competitive itch I didn't know I had, and it's help me be much less salty than before.
MTG vegas was a huge boost and I hope more events like that happen. really helped showcase what magic really is. art, friends, and fun games.
I would love to see a video explaining more about the pauper protest you talked about
I literally brought up building 1v1 decks to my commander playgroup before this video dropped for the exact reason you stated haha
I think you were partly right about prereleases Professor. The Kamigawa prerelease window is Feb 11-17, but the tabletop release date is just a day later on the 18th. In addition, the Arena release is Feb 10th! I think its safe to say that prediction was at least partly correct.
Might be Can Highlander that's the 1v1 format that takes off as I see more and more players in my area picking it up. Although they use proxies for the "High" end cards.
You know that was the longest skit you've made yet for this show, I'm impressed.
WOTC saw the secondary singles market and thought, "how can we get into that?" ... and secret lairs was born.
I feel like seeing those passionate people in the community draw in a lot of new players, especially in the lgs.
Got to love the old man in the Vans t-shirt
Thanks for another excellent video!
I have by weekly games, cube draft and commander, my paper collection is always growing
I'm sad there wasn't a skit at the start of the episode, they make my day I hope they aren't gone forever.
I'm so old school... maybe because I'm 50 too.. I love the feel of paper in my hands and I used to not play with sleeves!! I know ! I know! I finally sleeved up ..but yeah I looked back on playing with unsleeved moxes and beta rares... 😬. But still love the paper.
‘Yo quiero pay the one’ is my new favorite phrase and I want it on a shirt.
I really hope that I do get to watch "The future of Magic is 1v1" two years down the line. I really want the part of magic that I enjoy to reach the same level as the part that I am not a fan of.
Isn't all Magic 1v1?
@@drago939393 The most popular format, commander, is mostly played as multiplayer. I haven't had anyone explain to me how, but supposedly it's easier or better for multiplayer. I've played many multiplayer games in standard magic, so I don't get it, but ho hum.
What a great way to start my day. Time to watch!
Let's not forget that their focus on casual play has powercrept the commander format more and more over the years. It was always exciting to skim through a new set looking for useful cards for my commander decks. Now there are always a bunch of auto includes, which does make it less fun imo. Obviously that doesn't mean other people won't enjoy the format more now. I personally set restrictions on my generals because I didn't have too much fun with the cards specifically designed for commander.
Thanks for mentioning Pokémon. As a 41 year old man with 4 young kids that grew up playing MTG I am now all in on the Pokémon TCG. I would really appreciate more content about it. I will shortly join your Patreon and make a request there as well. I haven’t been watching for a couple years and now I am just as enthused as ever to play some table top games again. I didn’t know that Wizards of the Coast developed the Pokémon card game. It now makes more sense to me why I used to watch the gameplay at my LGS in Las Vegas and be intrigued somewhat by the gameplay. Your a gem amongst youtubers my friend and I am happily back enjoying your intelligent content once again! Take care and I raise a glass to you good sir!!
Evaluating prior predictions is crucial and more people need to do it.
You both look fantastic in the thumbnail. No matter what the future of magic looks like, it looks like your guys future is looking bright
One of my LGS (a premiere game store) is having phantom draft events which I think is really interesting! Come phantom draft the Kamigawa block before the new Kamigawa set releases. It sounds like it'll breathe some life into the 1v1 scene that's bored of Standard.
That sounds pretty fun.How much do they charge for it?
I only play commander and i only do that casually, but I find myself waiting earnestly for the next episode after rewatching the playlist again
I think major events going to third parties could have a positive side effect that's kind of hinted at with the mentioned Charmander tokens, which is to say, the allowance of proxies. If specifically unsanctioned events become a thing, who's to stop event organizers from allowing some form or another of proxies in, say, a Legacy tournament they choose to run? In a roundabout way, it could _improve_ accessibility into formats like that, specifically with reserve list cards. It would also be an opportunity for WotC to circumvent the list as well by selling, say, some kind of special "commemorative" version of the cards that "aren't tournament legal" except, you know, as proxies in events WotC doesn't sanction (like gold bordered cards).
Even a decade ago when we played for Moxen at local game stores it was a regular occurrence for the legacy or vintage event to allow some numbers of proxies.
It's interesting hearing about Wizards selling on Amazon and competing with LGS's prices. Is this something they're not doing in Europe? Or just not in Austria? Currently I could get a Set Booster box (Crimson Vow) for 100€ from my LGS, 97€ online from another card shop or 130€ from Amazon. That can't be right
It's a US only thing, they don't do it in Canada either. LGSs are still the best way to buy any product here.
Austria buddy!
I too still buy my products from LGS's directly and most of the times they give me some extra cards just as a thank you for not shopping online.
It happens globally, because why would it not? Amazon is cheaper than my LGS here in Germany: amazon price for an in print set display is around 115-120 €, my LGS charges 130.
For buying new product, especially the Standard sets, ordering directly from the big distributors like Games Island (set display price: about 100 €), is the cheapest option, but amazon really scores with non-Standard sets, because they still get restocks when the first wave supply has dried out in the rest of the market.
@@Volkbrecht But that's still drastically more than on Cardmarket or Cardtrader
@@FPRobber Games island is usually one of the cheapest sellers of sealed products on mkm as well.
The pure joy of cracking packs not knowing what you'll get is what got me into magic in 1998. Digital will never replace that feeling for me.
That's called "addiction"
@@Big_Dai What in his comment implies he's addicted? Sounds like a you problem :)
@@Wft-bu5zc its callee gambling, lootboxes are banned for a reason
The professors comment about 1v1 being the pallet cleanser is too true, I've just started to get into modern since I've been getting bored with edh and it's made me enjoy edh all that much more again
Old School magic is completely player driven and we have tons of tournaments throughout the year and all over the world. As long as there are people who enjoy playing magic, there will be magic tournaments with or without wotc. #micdrop
if tomorrow wotc was to go bankrupt. mtg tournaments and meetups would fail within a few months. why would i show up with my valuable cards to play and ruin them; when the company is no longer in operation? what will i get for playing? nothing but a bunch of bent cards over time; which diminishes the value. like i said. we see different outcomes; but mine is more feasible; because its reality of things. always expect the worst.
I would love for weekly or bi-monthly episodes of DTR. Even subscribed and *belled* I unfortunately never notice when a new one is uploaded so I get a few backlogged and then a lot of topics are typically out of date.
That editing bit at 41:50 was hysterical
I always catch myself dancing in my seat at the outro music
I've only been in magic for about a year (great channel by the way! Huge help) and I wanted to mention that the pandemic has been getting a bunch of people (like me) into more tactile and physical hobbies because of how much went digital because of COVID. I think this might year of profits might be a huge boom from new players that started playing recently, and so much fresh blood might- hopefully- pressure wotc to pay more attention to paper magic in the future. But who knows, it might not be as much of a boost of new players as I'm thinking.
theres like 10 million mtg players globally i believe
Interesting the discussion they have about pauper on a day with 3 bans on pauper, with one specifically to eliminate the power of affinity decks...
As a born and bred EDH player I must say that I really miss the pro tour and gp coverage.
Great episode :)
The old Vince and Prof are amazing, very well done. Made me laugh.
Nice Video Man! 👍 🔥
Well I’m going to keep going to my lgs to play paper magic every week or so , that’s just how I enjoy it .
THE OUTRO SONG IN THIS VIDEO WAS AMAZING
What an hour of delightful banter.