it's sad to know that if one of their daughters had been caught having consensual intercourse before marriage they probably would of been punished much harder
That and there would've been a WAAAAYYY harsher reaction if Josh had come out as queer vs. their reaction to his predatory tendencies. They've got their priorities.
Who gives a shit when we ve crossed the line of Incest??? What's sad here is how fucked up these people are and how damaged their daughters are, especially if they realize what has actually happened to them, that's what sad.
right? like obviously fuck josh duggar, but while i feel zero sympathy for the current version of him, his parents failed not just their daughters but also the teenage version of him. they dont give a shit about any of those kids, just about what they look like to others.
CSA by siblings is more common than most people think. Rarely is criminalization the answer, but the Duggars failed horribly at protecting their daughters from their son.
@@heidihawthorne Don't bring this into the conversation. This is about innocent kids being sexually abused, and their father covering it up to cover his reputation, don't mar it even more with this.
@@pookaverse it is the reason WHY they were continually abused. The father didn't get his son help or protect his daughters because the will of men comes before the safety, or lives, of women in fundamentalism. Don't even try me. I was raised in fundamentalism.
As a woman who's given birth twice and experienced a miscarriage, the thought of birthing every 18 months THAT MANY TIMES sounds like an absolute nightmare of torture
Yo that is so sad. Imagine being emotionally neglected and then being forced to take care of a younger sibling. They took away their childhood. I’m surprised none of them have resorted to self medicating. I hope they’re doing alright
I'm part of the Fundie Snark community on reddit and the Duggars are a huge topic there. Many of the girls have moved away from home with their husband and kids. A couple have enrolled their kids in public school and allow the girls to wear pants and have started wearing banned clothing too. Some have sought therapy and have gone low contact to no contact with their families, and I know one has been openly critical about their parents. I know that doesn't sound like a lot but for these kids it is. The sheer amount of brain washing is insane in this community. They don't know anything outside their community because they don't get the chance to interact with others with different mindsets. I grew up in a way similar to this and made my first "wordly" friends in my late 20s. They smoked pot, drank, cussed, and carried on. But they were also open and genuine with each other. They didn't hide their flaws behind a veneer of civility or fake niceness. Getting out of my small town mentality was like I was living in a closet and thought that was the world, only to have someone open the door and invite me out to explore. With time many of these kids will make their way out and grow while some won't. If you want a good example of this check out Megan Phelps-Roper, granddaughter of the guy who started the Westboro Baptist Church. She has a good TEDtalkx where she talks about growing up in that church, her deraticalization, and fleeing it.
I mean honestly the statistics are that at least a couple of them are destined to become addicts. Even if they weren’t raised the way they were, something like 1 out of 10 people have a substance abuse issue at some point in their life and that’s probably a lowball estimate. I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of them already became addicts and it was just covered up. That’s what they did with Josh, after all.
@@murphy1011 that's now how the statistics work generally though. 1/10 people overall maybe, but that is way higher in poor communities. but also childhood trauma often leads to addiction so you may be right
The boys almost certainly are. The girls are probably still in “survival mode” it’s unfortunate, but a lot of the worst symptoms of trauma tend to only show up once you’re safe.
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I live in northwest arkansas maybe 15 minutes from the duggar compound in tontitown and pretty much everyone I know has a Duggar encounter story lol. Personally I’ve only encountered the mom because she used to frequent the Walmart I worked at years ago. They are also infamous in the area for leaving religious pamphlets instead of tipping servers
Imagine being the federal agent having to watch through all that CP, like hours and hours and hours of horrific abuse and he can’t do a thing about what’s on the other side of the screen. How can someone sleep at night being exposed to all that? Also, 12.5 years isn’t enough prison time, this guy is a danger and he doesn’t even care.
@@mayy9645 I’m glad he was able to get through the other end of that with his sanity intact. Like, how many fucked up things can one person witness before it breaks them? Just thinking about it hurts. I definitely don’t envy people who’s job it is to look through that stuff
I really don't know. I once saw blurred footage of a split second of a man doing things to a baby and the sounds of that fraction of a second (and blurred, mind you) fucked me up for months. It's necessary work, but anyone who does it should not be exposed to it for too long. Like maybe 3 months plus and then take a long break from it and rotate with a batch of new people. I'm convinced there are people that have had their lives ruined just watching that stuff.
They probably participated in some way. Seems obvious. Where the fuck did this son learn that's it's cool to touch your sisters like that? C'mon, these guys are so in on it they should be in prison together with the son,100%
If you were touched that's not something you forget. You may not understand what is happening in the moment and you may block it out but trust me you never forget and it can pop up at the most inopportune moments. Took me years to figure out why I leap put of bed anytime anyone walks up on me while I'm sleep.
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu no everyone doesn't. I slept so lightly I could feel someone getting near me and I would wake up ready to attack them. That's not normal. Especially in a place where you would normally feel safe in all other circumstances.
A couple of Josh’s sisters (who spoke publicly about being victims) have since escaped this family and moved away. They’re still mega Christian but they wear pants etc! Jill wrote a book in which she rightfully calls out her father for protecting Josh and not the girls.
I took care of my baby brother as soon as a few months old whilst doing online school on zoom and having to keep tabs on my other brother who has autism and make sure he was on zoom learning too. I had insomnia already and my on going mental health problems like depression that's been present for years. I love my baby brother but it ruined me. Soon after I got into a manic episode only 1 other major factor that went in and i lost it. I would literally describe it as im with this baby so much i feel like if I'm the mother going through post partum i did great my first semester but second semester i was failing classes and doing poorly i had to leave on weekends to catch a break by visiting other family. Safe to say after my manic episode when senior year started August last year i didn't go bc a manic episode and it's effect last months i wasn't in the right mind. I dropped out. Guess what i still take care of him today. Really putting myself in the back burner i feel trash Abt myself. Studying on my own in the meantime i don't doubt my intelligence i have it I've always been a great student but my mind and health heavily influences me. But i know I'll pass the GED exams. Point is the harms of parentification is REAL and HAS DAMAGING and possibly lasting effects please don't make another child care for a child they didn't sign up for that hardship
Holy shit man. I never watched a lot of TLC (thank God), but God damn! This shit is wild! Even the way that the father was like, "Yep, my son had struggles with molesting my kids". Dued, those are your kids! What the hell. God, we are so brain broken in this country.
Don't worry; there are fucked up families like this all over the world; but most countries don't make entertainment shows about them or give them speaking tours like they're achieving something admirable.
The worst part of it all is this belief system runs very deep in our culture and politics. 😔 Their whole community protects them which is why nothing every happened to them until now
or if they were a different religion. imagine a fawning depiction of a conservative muslim family with a wife who says women should know their place and 20 fkin children all raising each other. this show is the epitome of showcasing cis white christian privilege in america.
No they would not, that’s disgusting to say! Let’s just focus on the situation that no family should cover up their child assaulting four of their own children and another child
The podcast Behind the Bastards did a four parter on the Duggers, it's pretty good. It goes waaay more in depth with the quiverful movement and how it relates/led to the Duggers.
"as Americans, let's be real here, we're all kind of pieces of shit" I've always felt this way, we literally all benefit off of the pain of others to make our lives more convenient lmao. We acknowledge how bad it is but we don't really give a shit because we don't stop our actions after finding out how we're exploiting poverty. We can try to be as good as we can but realistically it'll never be enough and we're all kind of fine with that.
“Why are the most religious people the craziest” 28:55 Because to believe entirely without any question you cannot have external thought process. So people who are entirely devout to one belief explicitly are often brainlets. I understand the need/want for religion and particular beliefs but to rise to such a level you must not have any other beliefs or question what was written. Which I’m my opinion shows lack of thought about externalities. (Things happening around them, to them, by them, by others etc). Basically a lack of any objectivity from lack of processing/what’s believed to be necessary input.
I agree with all this, but I think what ppl fail to realize is how insidious indoctrination is. Especially with ppl like the Duggars. There is an entire apparatus of power and control at play that starts when you’re child. When we’re this impressionable we believe most if not everything our parents say, now imagine that and on top of that your parents control EVERYTHING YOU DO. Your clothes, what you watch, who your friends are, your education. People raised in that way are not taught how to think for themselves it’s entirely done for them. What you then get is adults whose entire identity is the church and whatever religion it is. Some people get “lucky” and get to college and are exposed to other ways of thinking, but that type of brainwashing takes years and years to undo. It can be deeply traumatic, and inevitably you end up one of 3 ways you stay and are blissfully unaware, you leave and adjust and hopefully find your own values outside the church or you become so brain broken at the thought that your whole life was a lie you fall into some pattern of addiction. While I’m sure there are a bunch of different variations as a person whose experienced it first hand while not as extreme as the Duggars that’s about how a large chunk of ppl end up.
That's really well put, I am the only one in my family who has left Christianity and some conversations with my family are just impossible, the brainwashing is insane
Oh no Hassan doesn't get it 😂 the counting on show followed everyone of the molested sisters lives following their marriages and baby making. It started with Jill and Jessa, then went on to include joy and jinger as well as the boys Josiah and John David. But before it was canceled it followed all the victims in his own family. Fun fact jim boob didn't pay any of his children much what they were owed from the show. Jill had to threaten legal ramifications to get like a 3rd of what she was owed 🤷🤦 he wasn't even supposed to be part of the show but was involved with the money? Make it make sense.
It’s awful that children aren’t protected with reality TV and RUclips, now tik tok. If the kids were “child actors” in movies and television, they’d be protected
I live in South Carolina. It can be cheap af to live in certain areas of the South if you have the "right" complexion and are on good terms with the "Good Ole Boys." You can get land and a house cheap in the middle of nowhere. You'll have a well with an electric pump for water (pretty common throughout the South outside of cities and suburbs). You end up only paying for electricity and cable/internet IF it's available. And you can bet your ass they're getting WIC and foodstamps! He is likely involved in financial development and various businesses with other members of the church that gets mentioned. The "Good Ole Boys" system continues because men keep finding it useful to try to become one of them. They take care of each other and shit on everyone else, including their own daughters in this case.
I hate to have empathy for Josh’s wife, but where is she supposed to go? She has like 5 kids and no support to leave the church. Even if there’s a go fund me for her, maybe she could get a home but zero support. And she’s been told she will burn in hell if she leaves. That sounds stupid to a normal person, but she truly believes she will be tortured in the afterlife for all of eternity. Idk, it’s hard enough for a normal mom to try and leave an abusive relationship with five kids. But she’s been brainwashed. She’s being supported by the church. Idk, I just feel for the girl.
@@str8ballinSA Not really but some do. They aren’t very consistent but that seems to be a pattern with them. I looked it up. Now I’ll never unknow that one of the girls named her child Spurgeon
As a cis guy and someone in the Transformers fandom, I don’t know if it’s anecdotal and really even my place to say, but most of the people I see who make the TRANS-Formers joke ARE trans people, which means he straight up stole that joke from them and tried to use it negatively
I’m sorry you know that. You don’t deserve to know that. I feel for gen z. Even if your parents were watching your internet, you guys had weird kids showing you on their phone.
I had to babysit my brother when I was 8, and it was because my mom was put into a very tough and difficult situation to get out of. We were alone and poor, and had no other choice. My mom would never have made me babysit my brother, and basically parent him because she was too busy popping out babies to do it herself. Like that's just horrible. Edit: shocker how the family who sees sexual assault as an appropriate response to the victim "asking for it" by wearing revealing clothing, doesnt see too big of a problem with their son sexually assaulting their young daughters because "hes young". Like if that was my son, first of all that just wouldn't be a possibility. And if it somehow became a possibility I would beat him until the cops would have to pull me off. Idc, what he did is absolutely disgusting on so many levels, I wouldnt be able to control myself. I would just be seeing red.
What’s the point of having that many kids other than to form your own cult. It’s not like Michelle even knows them since the second they’re off her boob she throws them to the siblings just to pop out the next one. You simply can’t be present in all their lives taking in each of their milestones and giving them the attention they need and deserve. I’m 100% sure the older kids probably know them far better than the parents ever will. The whole purpose of kids for them was solely indoctrination. It’s sad that they’re so extreme that the only people they can get to join them are children who have no choice
The money question is real. I make 120k a year, I'm the only money maker in the house. We've got 2 kids below 2 years old, a car payment, and normal house bills. And we never save, we are strapped a lot. 18 kids is...fucking impossible.
I had to pause this break it down and watch it. I am genuinely not shocked this happen with Josh Duggar. This is why I trust no one at chruch all of them have some sort of issues with this 🙃 Don't even wanna marry any one at chruch cause of those obivous reason.
Be me, clicking a Hassan reaction video expecting his nuanced takes on complicated topics. First 5 minutes, "Squirt is piss." "Oh yeah the cussy episode!" You never know what you are gonna get lol
I don't believe in corporal punishment but like cmon. For both him and for the parents. Allowing your son to molest your own daughters is like one of the most vile crimes anyone could even think of.
I don’t blame the wife. She’s so brain washed. Coming from an evangelical background you’re almost encouraged to go for someone with Josh’s history because they had a “Jesus life changing grace mercy story” like “Omg God has done such a great work in his life” it’s like a brag
@@MrsPban exactly. She thinks exactly how she was brainwashed for 30 something years to think. She is a victim too. Even when told about the evidence she thinks that it’s not real or that he’s still being framed.
Huh. Actual based Kelly moment when she looked at the Duggars like they were stupid af talking about trans = pedo and not their sweet innocent son. Rare Kelly W.
she didn't remember the encounter that made him fall in "love at first sight" and the second date was when she was working under his mother. Red Flags galore.
While all of this is INSANE, the thing that stands out to me the most is that at 19:29 you can see that someone has made a Duggar Family wiki. Like, man, what are we doing in the Western world? No disrespect to wiki editors (the opposite actually, I really respect people who like organizing information), but it's just so bizarre.
I swear, the amount of faith you need to see the amount of hanous acts the "Perfect Christian Family" did and still be like: "It's fine, they're cured, surely they can't do that again" is insane
Watch BE THEE COMMENTATOR on YT for her extraordinary breakdown of the Duggars and the making of Josh specifically. Love J Aubrey too though, glad hasan is covering this :)
@@hangglidingmontana6134 yea ok let me move to a city where rent for a one bedroom apartment is like 1200 dollars when I can barely feed myself right now in Arkansas .........sounds like a great thing I should do.
These TLC stars actually do get paid a lot. But In the industry its usually a common practice to not acknowledge the large amount of money the cast receives. Despite that a lot of people get super dependent on the money they receive from the show. Which can lead into situations where the cast member are forced to ruin their lives and friendships in order to make the cut and get paid. I used to work in reality TV and I found it incredibly disturbing. Granted I'm not sure if the Duggers fit in this case.
idk if hasan has looked at anything abt daisies destruction because it’s very dark and not fun to listen to but stephanie soo made a deep dive into the case for daisies destruction and it’s so sad
the parents implying that josh was just fooling around, meanwhile he was groping babies who were too young to even understand the words ‘violation’ or ‘molestation’
Even the local Arkansas communities think the Duggars are messed up. That says a lot in itself. I love this beautiful state and nice people. We may be poor but we make it work.
In my mind this works like automation at some point kids are selfsufficient. If you have enough that are old they can take care of the young ones and when the old ones move out you got more ready.
Saw this video before, but now the name Hutchinson stood out and after checking, yes Tim Hutchinson is the brother of that weird presidential candidate Asa.
I was making food and told my mom I was watching a video about the duggars. She then proceeded to explain why she thought that the parents just made some mistakes and they were just trying to hold out hope that their son would get better 🙃 when I told her about how this behavior continued past adolescence and that the parents kept defending him, she said that that doesn’t make them bad people they just wanted what was best for their kids 😀 and that the only reason they didn’t get actual help was because “the cult manipulated them” 😄(I’m doing so well with this information) I guess it makes sense now as to why my mother’s p@dophi/e brother still live with my grandma 🤪
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it's sad to know that if one of their daughters had been caught having consensual intercourse before marriage they probably would of been punished much harder
sad that that’s not even an exaggeration.
That and there would've been a WAAAAYYY harsher reaction if Josh had come out as queer vs. their reaction to his predatory tendencies. They've got their priorities.
Who gives a shit when we ve crossed the line of Incest??? What's sad here is how fucked up these people are and how damaged their daughters are, especially if they realize what has actually happened to them, that's what sad.
in jill duggar's book she talks about getting in more trouble for wearing pants than josh ever did 🫠
Daughters were punished for skirts showing ankles and,wanting to wear pants. It’s Jesus sharia
the most insane thing to me is he admitted to his parents about doing SA and they literally sent him to SA training camp
also crazy that the worst thing that happened at that car dealership wasn't related to it being a car dealership
They knew he needed more practice if he wanted any chance at running his own "Church"
right? like obviously fuck josh duggar, but while i feel zero sympathy for the current version of him, his parents failed not just their daughters but also the teenage version of him. they dont give a shit about any of those kids, just about what they look like to others.
@@mimi-xx For Sure! Yes, he's fucked up, but that doesn't typically happen without some seriously deranged parenting
can't pray the pedo away
What shocks me the most is not a father protecting his son, but a father who let his multiple daughters get abused a still protect his son.
The patriarchy of Christianity
Men always come first in fundamentalism lunacy 🙄
CSA by siblings is more common than most people think. Rarely is criminalization the answer, but the Duggars failed horribly at protecting their daughters from their son.
@@heidihawthorne Don't bring this into the conversation. This is about innocent kids being sexually abused, and their father covering it up to cover his reputation, don't mar it even more with this.
@@pookaverse it is the reason WHY they were continually abused. The father didn't get his son help or protect his daughters because the will of men comes before the safety, or lives, of women in fundamentalism. Don't even try me. I was raised in fundamentalism.
As a woman who's given birth twice and experienced a miscarriage, the thought of birthing every 18 months THAT MANY TIMES sounds like an absolute nightmare of torture
It really does
Must be sadistic to want to subject yourself to pushing a watermelon of your vag 18 godamn times!!! I don't even want to go through that shit ONCE.
Her uterus prolapsed twice (:
They probably slid right out by the eighth time
Maybe it's a birthing fetish?
the daughters are the ones that went to the parents to say what happened, so clearly the victims were aware the touches were inappropriate.
Yo that is so sad. Imagine being emotionally neglected and then being forced to take care of a younger sibling. They took away their childhood. I’m surprised none of them have resorted to self medicating. I hope they’re doing alright
I'm part of the Fundie Snark community on reddit and the Duggars are a huge topic there. Many of the girls have moved away from home with their husband and kids. A couple have enrolled their kids in public school and allow the girls to wear pants and have started wearing banned clothing too. Some have sought therapy and have gone low contact to no contact with their families, and I know one has been openly critical about their parents. I know that doesn't sound like a lot but for these kids it is. The sheer amount of brain washing is insane in this community. They don't know anything outside their community because they don't get the chance to interact with others with different mindsets. I grew up in a way similar to this and made my first "wordly" friends in my late 20s. They smoked pot, drank, cussed, and carried on. But they were also open and genuine with each other. They didn't hide their flaws behind a veneer of civility or fake niceness. Getting out of my small town mentality was like I was living in a closet and thought that was the world, only to have someone open the door and invite me out to explore.
With time many of these kids will make their way out and grow while some won't. If you want a good example of this check out Megan Phelps-Roper, granddaughter of the guy who started the Westboro Baptist Church. She has a good TEDtalkx where she talks about growing up in that church, her deraticalization, and fleeing it.
I mean honestly the statistics are that at least a couple of them are destined to become addicts. Even if they weren’t raised the way they were, something like 1 out of 10 people have a substance abuse issue at some point in their life and that’s probably a lowball estimate. I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of them already became addicts and it was just covered up. That’s what they did with Josh, after all.
@@murphy1011 that's now how the statistics work generally though. 1/10 people overall maybe, but that is way higher in poor communities. but also childhood trauma often leads to addiction so you may be right
The boys almost certainly are. The girls are probably still in “survival mode” it’s unfortunate, but a lot of the worst symptoms of trauma tend to only show up once you’re safe.
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@@silentfriend369love the content no matter how good or bad it’s edited
I did not enjoy watching this ☹️
@antoniojuarez7627 i know, Ted Cruz ☹️
I really did enjoy it, I appreciate you doing what you do. You made my night better.
This story is WAAAAYYYYY deeper than even this. Exploring Josh Duggar is a crazy rabbit hole to go down.
Yeah some of us know too much about this gosh darn family
Yeah listen to the Behind the Bastards podcast about Josh. In fact, listen to B t B about all the worst characters in history!
@@karenjanusch7978 TRUE
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I live in northwest arkansas maybe 15 minutes from the duggar compound in tontitown and pretty much everyone I know has a Duggar encounter story lol. Personally I’ve only encountered the mom because she used to frequent the Walmart I worked at years ago. They are also infamous in the area for leaving religious pamphlets instead of tipping servers
that tipping part sounds like Arkansas lmfao
Not the “Duggar compound” 💀
I wish more restaurants would practice banning people who do that religous shit. They're being a scumbag and condescending at the same time.
That tracks.
Imagine being the federal agent having to watch through all that CP, like hours and hours and hours of horrific abuse and he can’t do a thing about what’s on the other side of the screen. How can someone sleep at night being exposed to all that? Also, 12.5 years isn’t enough prison time, this guy is a danger and he doesn’t even care.
Didnt one of the detectives from the case commit suicide?
@@kiraanastasiaandersen1145 I wouldn’t be surprised
Who cares about the agents... they're to busy killing unarmed citizens
@@mayy9645 I’m glad he was able to get through the other end of that with his sanity intact. Like, how many fucked up things can one person witness before it breaks them? Just thinking about it hurts. I definitely don’t envy people who’s job it is to look through that stuff
I really don't know. I once saw blurred footage of a split second of a man doing things to a baby and the sounds of that fraction of a second (and blurred, mind you) fucked me up for months.
It's necessary work, but anyone who does it should not be exposed to it for too long. Like maybe 3 months plus and then take a long break from it and rotate with a batch of new people. I'm convinced there are people that have had their lives ruined just watching that stuff.
Am I nuts or should the parents also be found guilty of allowing for these crimes to happen? It feels like they kind of helped it happen.
Honestly yeah. They 100% helped their son do all that shit
Yes, they should
They probably participated in some way. Seems obvious. Where the fuck did this son learn that's it's cool to touch your sisters like that? C'mon, these guys are so in on it they should be in prison together with the son,100%
If you were touched that's not something you forget. You may not understand what is happening in the moment and you may block it out but trust me you never forget and it can pop up at the most inopportune moments. Took me years to figure out why I leap put of bed anytime anyone walks up on me while I'm sleep.
I'm so sorry this happened to you but that's a normal reaction for someone coming in your room
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu no everyone doesn't. I slept so lightly I could feel someone getting near me and I would wake up ready to attack them. That's not normal. Especially in a place where you would normally feel safe in all other circumstances.
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu It's not a reaction that comes from healthy circumstances.
A couple of Josh’s sisters (who spoke publicly about being victims) have since escaped this family and moved away. They’re still mega Christian but they wear pants etc! Jill wrote a book in which she rightfully calls out her father for protecting Josh and not the girls.
Lmao just right out of the gate with the truth bomb "squirt is piss."
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did i already watch this j aubrey video? yes. am i going to watch this react video too? also yes.
Yea i drove to work listening to it yesterday. And listening to hasan react to it today lol
Same
I took care of my baby brother as soon as a few months old whilst doing online school on zoom and having to keep tabs on my other brother who has autism and make sure he was on zoom learning too. I had insomnia already and my on going mental health problems like depression that's been present for years. I love my baby brother but it ruined me. Soon after I got into a manic episode only 1 other major factor that went in and i lost it. I would literally describe it as im with this baby so much i feel like if I'm the mother going through post partum i did great my first semester but second semester i was failing classes and doing poorly i had to leave on weekends to catch a break by visiting other family. Safe to say after my manic episode when senior year started August last year i didn't go bc a manic episode and it's effect last months i wasn't in the right mind. I dropped out. Guess what i still take care of him today. Really putting myself in the back burner i feel trash Abt myself. Studying on my own in the meantime i don't doubt my intelligence i have it I've always been a great student but my mind and health heavily influences me. But i know I'll pass the GED exams.
Point is the harms of parentification is REAL and HAS DAMAGING and possibly lasting effects please don't make another child care for a child they didn't sign up for that hardship
I really hope you can get a break soon
@@alien_liwil thank u so much i believe in myself and my capabilities i will get there someday
Holy shit man. I never watched a lot of TLC (thank God), but God damn! This shit is wild! Even the way that the father was like, "Yep, my son had struggles with molesting my kids". Dued, those are your kids! What the hell. God, we are so brain broken in this country.
Imagine being a conservative family living in the 2000’s that just watches TLC, BibleMan and Christian movies.
They clearly favored their male children over their female ones
yeah there are weirdos all over the world
but it almost looks like there is a little bit more in the US
I'm sure the father molested those kids, too. That's why it wouldn't be a big deal. Like father, like son.
Don't worry; there are fucked up families like this all over the world; but most countries don't make entertainment shows about them or give them speaking tours like they're achieving something admirable.
I remember seeing this show as a kid, and not understanding the feelings of cringe I experienced. Defund TLC.
TLC is privately funded WE cannot defund TLC they are a private corporation, you mean boycott TLC
@@BlueScreenCorp it was a joke, smartass.
Just wait til he finds out how jim bob did indeed afford that house for “18 little sheeeets” 💀 (lol he forced them to build it)
WHAT
If they were black, children's aid would have been involved way before 19 kids and likely they'd have been eventually removed for neglect / abuse.
That is so true.
The worst part of it all is this belief system runs very deep in our culture and politics. 😔 Their whole community protects them which is why nothing every happened to them until now
or if they were a different religion. imagine a fawning depiction of a conservative muslim family with a wife who says women should know their place and 20 fkin children all raising each other. this show is the epitome of showcasing cis white christian privilege in america.
No they would not, that’s disgusting to say! Let’s just focus on the situation that no family should cover up their child assaulting four of their own children and another child
@@shady1234shady that's not even what they were talking about.
Worst part is a lot of parents will silence their daughters when a son has been molesting them….. Sad occurrence
Nothing about this video is funny, however I busted out laughing when Hassan was like how do you s*** shame a baby
No way those kids know even basic reading/writing/math etc if children were teaching them.
Forever grateful to have bump into Hasan clips while the whole cussy arc was going on
The podcast Behind the Bastards did a four parter on the Duggers, it's pretty good. It goes waaay more in depth with the quiverful movement and how it relates/led to the Duggers.
Fuck yeah I love Robert Evans and BtB
"as Americans, let's be real here, we're all kind of pieces of shit"
I've always felt this way, we literally all benefit off of the pain of others to make our lives more convenient lmao. We acknowledge how bad it is but we don't really give a shit because we don't stop our actions after finding out how we're exploiting poverty. We can try to be as good as we can but realistically it'll never be enough and we're all kind of fine with that.
This time of year I really miss the Hell’s Kitchen react videos but this will do!!
“Why are the most religious people the craziest”
28:55
Because to believe entirely without any question you cannot have external thought process. So people who are entirely devout to one belief explicitly are often brainlets. I understand the need/want for religion and particular beliefs but to rise to such a level you must not have any other beliefs or question what was written. Which I’m my opinion shows lack of thought about externalities. (Things happening around them, to them, by them, by others etc). Basically a lack of any objectivity from lack of processing/what’s believed to be necessary input.
I agree with all this, but I think what ppl fail to realize is how insidious indoctrination is. Especially with ppl like the Duggars. There is an entire apparatus of power and control at play that starts when you’re child. When we’re this impressionable we believe most if not everything our parents say, now imagine that and on top of that your parents control EVERYTHING YOU DO. Your clothes, what you watch, who your friends are, your education. People raised in that way are not taught how to think for themselves it’s entirely done for them. What you then get is adults whose entire identity is the church and whatever religion it is. Some people get “lucky” and get to college and are exposed to other ways of thinking, but that type of brainwashing takes years and years to undo. It can be deeply traumatic, and inevitably you end up one of 3 ways you stay and are blissfully unaware, you leave and adjust and hopefully find your own values outside the church or you become so brain broken at the thought that your whole life was a lie you fall into some pattern of addiction. While I’m sure there are a bunch of different variations as a person whose experienced it first hand while not as extreme as the Duggars that’s about how a large chunk of ppl end up.
That's really well put, I am the only one in my family who has left Christianity and some conversations with my family are just impossible, the brainwashing is insane
I’m a Christian myself and yes. Quite frankly not questioning what you’re told is just brainwashing yourself
"I can excuse child molestation and rape, but I draw the line at cheating on your spouse!"
I'm watching this against my better judgement haha religious trauma go brrrr. I just hid behind Hassan and chat's commentary lmao. Lesgoooooo. 👍🏻👍🏻✨✨
Oh no Hassan doesn't get it 😂 the counting on show followed everyone of the molested sisters lives following their marriages and baby making. It started with Jill and Jessa, then went on to include joy and jinger as well as the boys Josiah and John David. But before it was canceled it followed all the victims in his own family. Fun fact jim boob didn't pay any of his children much what they were owed from the show. Jill had to threaten legal ramifications to get like a 3rd of what she was owed 🤷🤦 he wasn't even supposed to be part of the show but was involved with the money? Make it make sense.
It’s awful that children aren’t protected with reality TV and RUclips, now tik tok. If the kids were “child actors” in movies and television, they’d be protected
i love watching the j aubrey vid myself first - then coming back to watch it with hasan… helps with his pausing imo
10/10 RUclips ad placement.
0/10
As a MENA boy im watching this like game of thrones. The writer called the main villain Jim Bob its a pretty obvious red flag though. 7/10
I live in South Carolina.
It can be cheap af to live in certain areas of the South if you have the "right" complexion and are on good terms with the "Good Ole Boys." You can get land and a house cheap in the middle of nowhere. You'll have a well with an electric pump for water (pretty common throughout the South outside of cities and suburbs). You end up only paying for electricity and cable/internet IF it's available. And you can bet your ass they're getting WIC and foodstamps!
He is likely involved in financial development and various businesses with other members of the church that gets mentioned. The "Good Ole Boys" system continues because men keep finding it useful to try to become one of them. They take care of each other and shit on everyone else, including their own daughters in this case.
I hate to have empathy for Josh’s wife, but where is she supposed to go? She has like 5 kids and no support to leave the church. Even if there’s a go fund me for her, maybe she could get a home but zero support. And she’s been told she will burn in hell if she leaves. That sounds stupid to a normal person, but she truly believes she will be tortured in the afterlife for all of eternity. Idk, it’s hard enough for a normal mom to try and leave an abusive relationship with five kids. But she’s been brainwashed. She’s being supported by the church. Idk, I just feel for the girl.
I need The Unlearning Channel so I can go back to a more innocent me
Imagine naming anything "Jedidiah".
That is, sadly, a biblical name lol
@@cthulhuhoops Every one of that brood bears an Old Testament name.
@@str8ballinSA Not really but some do. They aren’t very consistent but that seems to be a pattern with them. I looked it up. Now I’ll never unknow that one of the girls named her child Spurgeon
I once drunkenly named by “bussy” Jedidiah, i was just being stupid with my friends lol, hope this makes sense in context Godspeed 🫡👹
As a cis guy and someone in the Transformers fandom, I don’t know if it’s anecdotal and really even my place to say, but most of the people I see who make the TRANS-Formers joke ARE trans people, which means he straight up stole that joke from them and tried to use it negatively
I’m a trans guy who’s not in the transformer fandom and it’s most definitely a popular joke in the community lol
I’m upset with myself that I was shocked hasan didn’t know about Daisy’s Destruction
I think I watch too much true crime videos
Dude same😂
I’m sorry you know that. You don’t deserve to know that. I feel for gen z. Even if your parents were watching your internet, you guys had weird kids showing you on their phone.
Not everyone is interested in child rape…..
I had to babysit my brother when I was 8, and it was because my mom was put into a very tough and difficult situation to get out of. We were alone and poor, and had no other choice. My mom would never have made me babysit my brother, and basically parent him because she was too busy popping out babies to do it herself. Like that's just horrible.
Edit: shocker how the family who sees sexual assault as an appropriate response to the victim "asking for it" by wearing revealing clothing, doesnt see too big of a problem with their son sexually assaulting their young daughters because "hes young". Like if that was my son, first of all that just wouldn't be a possibility. And if it somehow became a possibility I would beat him until the cops would have to pull me off. Idc, what he did is absolutely disgusting on so many levels, I wouldnt be able to control myself. I would just be seeing red.
Kids can groom kids….it’s really not difficult to understand-oop, he realizes now 😂
What’s the point of having that many kids other than to form your own cult. It’s not like Michelle even knows them since the second they’re off her boob she throws them to the siblings just to pop out the next one. You simply can’t be present in all their lives taking in each of their milestones and giving them the attention they need and deserve. I’m 100% sure the older kids probably know them far better than the parents ever will. The whole purpose of kids for them was solely indoctrination. It’s sad that they’re so extreme that the only people they can get to join them are children who have no choice
The money question is real. I make 120k a year, I'm the only money maker in the house. We've got 2 kids below 2 years old, a car payment, and normal house bills. And we never save, we are strapped a lot. 18 kids is...fucking impossible.
I had to pause this break it down and watch it. I am genuinely not shocked this happen with Josh Duggar. This is why I trust no one at chruch all of them have some sort of issues with this 🙃
Don't even wanna marry any one at chruch cause of those obivous reason.
You telling me I can't r*pe ma car? Brother, it's ma car, I do what I want. 🇺🇸
That car was a known slut in the area, always teasin' the men folk. It was asking for it.
Definitely best episode of Hoarders Buried Alive
insane that the first sentence hasan speaks this video is "squirt is piss" HELLO?!?
the infantilization of the mom really disturbs me. she’s always dressed in the same childish dresses as her daughters
Be me, clicking a Hassan reaction video expecting his nuanced takes on complicated topics.
First 5 minutes, "Squirt is piss."
"Oh yeah the cussy episode!"
You never know what you are gonna get lol
The bgm subtly sounds like a ringtone. I keep thinking its a phone ringing far away and its stressing me tf out lol
"Ur churning butter baby"
16:40 check out the “evolution is a lie” & “Bush Cheney” bumper stickers lmao
39:30 yo I absolute fucking DIED ☠️ I was in serious mode and didn't realize what he was talking about til he said it's not even bangs 🤣🤣
My mom always looked up to this family and it’s so insane… she’s a trump one the election Qanon conspiracy theorist now so that’s no surprise ig
I’m sorry, you deserve better
finally the northwest arkansas representation I needed
watching hasan react to the booklet I had to read to learn health was surreal
12 years wasn't long enough, people like this make it harder to argue against the death penalty
13:45 redscare callout lmao
duggars are trad Protestant
but also death to Catholics and dasha
This is how many families in 3rd world countries are. Older siblings being responsible for younger ones so parents can go work
I don't believe in corporal punishment but like cmon. For both him and for the parents. Allowing your son to molest your own daughters is like one of the most vile crimes anyone could even think of.
Right?? If you help cover up a crime… that’s a crime! He should have consequences for covering up such atrocities
I don’t blame the wife. She’s so brain washed. Coming from an evangelical background you’re almost encouraged to go for someone with Josh’s history because they had a “Jesus life changing grace mercy story” like “Omg God has done such a great work in his life” it’s like a brag
I said the same thing. Where is she supposed to go?
@@MrsPban exactly. She thinks exactly how she was brainwashed for 30 something years to think. She is a victim too. Even when told about the evidence she thinks that it’s not real or that he’s still being framed.
Y’all remember teen mom on tlc where it was like 16 and pregnant they were wild in the 90s-2000’s
He has a house from the tax benefits of 18 kids plus government assistance
I love how this starts with Hasan saying "squirt is piss" LMAO
Weird to hear locations I grew up at in this type of video 😢
Huh. Actual based Kelly moment when she looked at the Duggars like they were stupid af talking about trans = pedo and not their sweet innocent son. Rare Kelly W.
But you realize that they're just hoarders right? Except instead of 20 dogs they have 20 kids
she didn't remember the encounter that made him fall in "love at first sight" and the second date was when she was working under his mother. Red Flags galore.
Squirt is not 100% piss, but there is some piss in it
Why is it shocking that a sexually unhealthy and repressed family produced a person who explored those curiosities in small defenseless children - ???
While all of this is INSANE, the thing that stands out to me the most is that at 19:29 you can see that someone has made a Duggar Family wiki. Like, man, what are we doing in the Western world? No disrespect to wiki editors (the opposite actually, I really respect people who like organizing information), but it's just so bizarre.
the "duggars" sound wild lmao
54:30 that aged well lmao
I swear, the amount of faith you need to see the amount of hanous acts the "Perfect Christian Family" did and still be like: "It's fine, they're cured, surely they can't do that again" is insane
Someone tell him about fundie fridays pls
Yes.
he's watched one of her videos before but I forget which one
Maybe one of the girl defined vids
A bunch of the Duggar kids became druggies.
A symptom of overbreeding and tons of victims
Nothing surprising.
Watch BE THEE COMMENTATOR on YT for her extraordinary breakdown of the Duggars and the making of Josh specifically. Love J Aubrey too though, glad hasan is covering this :)
As an Arkansan, I'm sorry about our state lol I'm trying my best in a right wing hell hole.
Same.
Leave then. Go to san francisco and be with like minds.
@@hangglidingmontana6134 yea ok let me move to a city where rent for a one bedroom apartment is like 1200 dollars when I can barely feed myself right now in Arkansas .........sounds like a great thing I should do.
@@AaronHatcher awe cmon! Trust in the government to take care of you. Plus, the ppl there are just as delusional as you! You can cry victim TOGETHER.
The only cool places in Arkansas are Fayetteville (because it’s a college town) and Eureka Springs.
These TLC stars actually do get paid a lot. But In the industry its usually a common practice to not acknowledge the large amount of money the cast receives. Despite that a lot of people get super dependent on the money they receive from the show. Which can lead into situations where the cast member are forced to ruin their lives and friendships in order to make the cut and get paid. I used to work in reality TV and I found it incredibly disturbing. Granted I'm not sure if the Duggers fit in this case.
idk if hasan has looked at anything abt daisies destruction because it’s very dark and not fun to listen to but stephanie soo made a deep dive into the case for daisies destruction and it’s so sad
I can't help but imagine what the Muslim equivalent of the Duggars would be. I don't think we'd ever see that kind of reality TV. lol
Here’s a good open for a Seinfeld-esque observational comedy bit: What’s the deal with conservatives and sex crimes?
36:05 why I respect you Hasan. Always.
the parents implying that josh was just fooling around, meanwhile he was groping babies who were too young to even understand the words ‘violation’ or ‘molestation’
This is why Janna never got married and had kids, she was parentified at a young age.
There’s Christian fundamentalist are the same dudes the call everyone else pedos smh
Even the local Arkansas communities think the Duggars are messed up. That says a lot in itself. I love this beautiful state and nice people. We may be poor but we make it work.
This shit happened in my family too. My dad is a preacher who used IBLP practices.
In my mind this works like automation at some point kids are selfsufficient. If you have enough that are old they can take care of the young ones and when the old ones move out you got more ready.
love how ppl in chat are linking mrbeast stuff while he's busy covering this. People have no patience. Chill tf out
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What does this mean?
Saw this video before, but now the name Hutchinson stood out and after checking, yes Tim Hutchinson is the brother of that weird presidential candidate Asa.
"dude learned how to use linux to look up cp" ahahhahahhahahah
I was making food and told my mom I was watching a video about the duggars. She then proceeded to explain why she thought that the parents just made some mistakes and they were just trying to hold out hope that their son would get better 🙃 when I told her about how this behavior continued past adolescence and that the parents kept defending him, she said that that doesn’t make them bad people they just wanted what was best for their kids 😀 and that the only reason they didn’t get actual help was because “the cult manipulated them” 😄(I’m doing so well with this information) I guess it makes sense now as to why my mother’s p@dophi/e brother still live with my grandma 🤪
The add break is why I only watch on RUclips.
bros name is jim bob :| bro actually an npc
Imma take some mushrooms before watching this and see where it takes me
“It’s ok if he is right with God”. Sir, if you didn’t take your son to the police and get all your kids counseling… YOU aren’t right with God.
Why do people believe in religion? Does it really boil down to the bible having an answer for what happens after death?
Sometimes people need answers, and sometimes they're too lazy to find them themselves.
@@smallguy2 and sometimes it’s all they know, being raised in it and never being exposed to other ideas