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I had no idea that Chad Chad wore wigs in her earlier videos, I honestly thought that she was just absolutly murdering her hair with hair dye everytime a new video came out.
She still does that but also wears wigs
@@halatiny6537 LMAO
I was so confused when i saw her on the thumbnail, she looks like chad chad.. but also not
I think she’s worn a wig for around 8 videos?
other youtubers i thought were killing their hair but it turned out they're just wearing wigs are kennie jd-who's very transparent about wearing wigs in her videos, often mentions it at the beginning-and izzzyzzz, who often wears who wigs in some videos, and then her real hair in others. (edit: you can tell some of them are wigs, just because they wear the same colors in different videos. izzzyzzz's wigs are extremely unique and stylized, so you can tell easily)
Little girls don't get to be children. Boys will be boys but little girls have to be ladies. Don't run, don't yell, don't get dirty and as Chad Chad said, you gotta sit right.
Surely it depends on your parents.
@jekanyika to an extent ofc but the societal messaging is extremely pervasive, and its not just parents and teachers but also peers.
even as a 4yo i didn't want to be associated with anything 'girly' because it was always lesser. people learn and internalise misogyny at an insanely young age
@jekanyika what ratt said. a lot of girls go through a "hating femininity" stage when they're younger, in part because they just don't get to be kids within the ideals of being feminine.
Honestly, that's when I started to get rebellious. I saw my brothers doing the same thing and not being criticized. That would irritate me so much.
@@ratt2199 tmi: I’m autistic, but that also meant I never really got any of the shaming and labeling of things as “girly” or “gay” or any other general labels, cause I was always like they are just things and I didn’t get why society subtletely dmininisbed these concepts by making it seem negative
The way Jarvis and Jordan are seated looks like they are afraid of Chad chad
Its giving couples counseling and chadchad is their therapist😂😂
Chad Chad's chadness is intimidating
They are posed with all the skepticism of Jane Porter braced against a tree, shrinking away from a very forward man in a loin cloth
I would also be afraid of her because she's just so cool I could never compare to her and that scares me
that is just standard hotel podcast setup etiquette for 3 people when one of them is a woman
Hearing Chad Chad's real name being censored at the end of the video is so wild to me. Like somehow it had never occurred to me that anyone in her real life would call her anything but Chad Chad even though she literally opens every video with the caveat that it is not her real name.
i… have just realised what the “not really” means in that context omg
Her name is Chadine Chaddington and she's british, actually
@@HighFiveTheHorizon she's actually our new king! Charles is short for chaddington
@@mahyuhhh i’m…genuinely curious, what did you think she meant when she said that 😭
@@vivishii_ Probably as a joke
as a French Australian, I have never found a phrase that captures my cultural identity more than Jordan's, "le outback".
"Le shit, attention à l'araignèe"
Sacrebleu! Un kangaroo a détruit mon garden! 😮
Wouldn’t that be l’outback?
@@AmyAberrant we insert too many f-bombs to properly evaluate the indefinite article.
Le gasp
As a trans man there seriously is a huge “etiquette” double standard. Women (and little girls) are expected to be polite and proper and perfect and boys only need be that way for the most formal occasion. It’s almost expected for a man to do whatever he wants to get himself comfortable, where as women have to be the ones making the men comfortable even at the expense of their own. A lady can’t even have normal body functions without being seen as “trashy” whereas a man could belch and everyone would just laugh.
Seriously!! The double standard is unreal
yup. fellow trans man, grew up as a tomboy, it's absolutely unreal how much little girls get policed on their behavior and the way they dress. i was like 8 being told by my grandma to sit more ladylike for no reason except because girls 'aren't supposed' to sit like that. (there are practical reasons for sitting 'ladylike' but, uh, i never wore skirts so they weren't relevant???)
one thing I always think back to is that I wish I was allowed to climb trees as a child :( i wasn't allowed to because as a girl it wasn't ladylike, and if I scraped up my knees I wouldn't look good in dresses (CRAZY to me now to think back on that). I did end up getting scars on my knees from an accident and am just now at 25 learning to not be embarrassed about them, or feeling I shouldn't dress a certain way, because I have "ugly unfeminine legs." Being socialised as a young girl is so fkn weird.
your comment also made me think of something I heard a trans girl mention once, about how she was treated after transitioning visibly and 'passing' (this was years ago, idk if that word is still in use bc I get the connotations can be a bit weird, but that was the way she described it at the time). She said she was called a b*tch and rude when she was just being as assertive as she would've been when she was younger and publicly passing as male. It had nothing to do with her behaviour, it was the way she was expected to behave as a woman, and because she commanded the same space and tone that she did before her transition, she started getting all sorts of harassment from people who had no idea she was trans, they thought she was a cis woman who was being unreasonable.
@@RealElongatedMuskrat let’s go climb a tree together!!! Idgaf how old we are! (I will say it’s a bit scarier as an adult though 😂)
As a native Spanish speaker who took Spanish in the US for an easy credit I can assure you it’s not your fault. Spanish is taught incredibly poorly in school because it is all about the grade. My Hispanic friends and I truly spoke the language better than the teacher and she did not like that. I now teach English classes in my home country (Mexico) and my mom teaches Spanish to travelers. It’s much better because we are focused on the students actually being able to think in the language within cultural context rather than just regurgitate vocabulary. We don’t grade or anything of course, but when a student tells us they were able to watch a movie without subtitles, carry a conversation with a native, or even dream in the language, that feels so good.
I knew about this, I took French from 6th through 12th grade. Got A's every single year. If I was in France, sure I could survive on what I know but definitely nowhere near fluent and I would struggle in conversation. On the other hand, I grew up with many Spanish speaking friends who taught me a lot of conversation skills. I can't read or write much Spanish, but I can understand 85% of what I hear in conversation and I can communicate day to day subjects competently, though not perfectly of course. I'm a nurse and I still rely on translators for intense medical conversations, but I can do the basics myself like asking if they need anything and understanding the answers. And as an added bonus my Spanish speaking friends all spoke different dialects as they or their families were from Mexico, Cuba, El Salvador, Puerto Rico, Spain, and the Dominican Republic. It made it harder at first but now I'm glad I really understand a lot of different people.
never was a full spanish speaker, though my family said they considered me bilingual when i was younger (not sure what happened to this LOL) but was raised by my hispanic family who immigrated from DR and Colombia and i did well in my four years of spanish but that was only due to my previous knowledge. people would ask me for help on tests and quizzes since i was good at it, but i could never help them and i felt awful. it was genuinely from past experience and not the class and the class didn’t teach anyone. i’m glad to see someone with a similar experience and even someone who grew up to help others overcome this. i appreciate you
Dreaming in Spanish for the first time felt magical. I hope you get to bring that joy to many people!
same problem in Canada with French, there's jokes here about having the gym teacher teach french while taking you outside to play sports, and it's absolutely my real experience
That explains why Spanish class was so hard. It was all without any real context. “This is this word, this is that word,” etc. Good to know it wasn’t just me!
it's really nice to hear a young, female content creator speak about her personal struggle with misogyny. everyone suffers horribly under the patriarchy and it's frequently shocking to see how normalized misogynistic behaviors are. chadchad is a wonderful role model for young women on the internet
Love how you stated this!
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Maybe it's just me, but blaming the patriarchy is so misguided. Every marginalized group suffers under the capitalist neoliberal statuos quo the world has. Especially the poor. There are a lot of problems with our societies, but the root of all evil is not the fact that men owns the world. It's the fact that a handful of men owns it. Viva la Liberté. Viva la Equalité. Viva la Fraternité.
@@azpont7275 but it's not about who owns the world, it's about how women are sistematicly treated differently than men in a lot of aspects that affects us in the everyday life because patriarchy is the root of misoginy. It's something ingrated on society that most people still replicate.
@@azpont7275 but it's not about who owns the world, it's about how women are systematically treated differently than men in a lot of aspects that affect us in everyday life because patriarchy is the root of misogyny (and many other things). If that woman is a POC, than she may suffer much more. It's something so ingreated on society that most people still replicate because it's THAT normalized. The fact that "only a handfull of men own the world" does not change that. Just because one group is suffering does not invalidate the other, the root of each problem is different. But if you think patriarchy is not completely to blame, look no further then what is happening with women's rights in the USA, look at the recent sexual harrasment case in Italy. Look at all the news about d*ad women k*lled by their partners, look at all the news about child marriages. Just take a look at the news.
That gentlemen etiquette video isn’t how you treat a date that’s how you treat an actual child lmao, like “guide them to their seat, put their napkin in their lap for them, pour their drink for them, order their chicken nuggets and mac and cheese for them, cut up their food for them to make sure they don’t choke”
And immediately after I finished writing this comment they said it was infantilizing but still lmao
Oh my fucking god he actually says order for her lmfao
Like what if she changed her mind after she told you what she was thinking about ordering
And “take the initiative” is so bad it sounds like you finish ordering and then she’s like “And I’ll have the” and then you interrupt her to be like “And SHE’LL have the quinoa salad or whatever”
Man I need to stop pausing the video and making comments before I see what joke they’re immediately about to make next lmao
It'd make me super uncomfortable if my date treated me like that. Also, I don't want some guy I barely know sitting next to me and placing a napkin on my lap.
It seems like a SUPER weird thing to assume your date is okay with that. Even if a guy meant it with the best intentions, I'd honestly be a little creeped out how much he'd be getting up in my personal bubble and essentially talking over me.
Ordering for your date might be sweet if you have been together for a while and they've expressed they want you to do that (if they're away from the table/etc)
It feels like a lot of these dating advice guides for men forget the hypothetical women you'd be dating is in fact an adult who might be put off by the other person taking control of every detail.
bisexual sitting = unladylike, and therefore homophobia. chad chad cracked the code 😂 😂
bisexual sitting also overlaps with neurodivergent sitting, so it's abelist too (source: autistic sitter)
@Alastryona true! im both a bisexual and neurodivergent sitter myself, and i didn't even think of that lol
@@alastryona I am read this, as I'm waiting for my legs to regain feelings for the third time during this video, so I can finally (maybe) actually remember to go to the bathroom.. (I don't really see my ADHD as a disability, but maybe my life would be a lot easier if I did..)
@@Nightswarmer categorization of a disability is actually a slightly interesting topic people get wrong a lot. i think what people don't understand is that disability is not diagnosed based on what particular affliction you have (that is to say a condition that CAN be a disability is not always inherently disabling enough to warrant a formal diagnosis), because a diagnosis is given out so that you can access the necessary help, not just for "finding out the truth" or whatever people say it is.
So my ADHD would be considered a disability because it affects me severely enough to be disabling in everyday life, whereas with what you said it's possible that your ADHD, while noticeable, may not affect you enough to make you feel like you need to call it a disability (because there is no objective scale for disability). Same as how someone whose ring finger was amputated would be affected but might not consider themselves disabled, whereas a limb amputee would be more likely to do so. me choosing to write this doesn't really mean anything about you or your comment btw, this just kind of interests me and it was on my mind after having to explain it to someone.
@@ejynk Well, I've always been dependent on other people watching out for me and I just today actually moved into my own place that isn't a dorm with roomies or my mom's basement.. I usually think I'm "barely functioning", but I guess this is really the ultimate show on if I actually do manage completely on my own.. I have been considering starting meds, but my mom always used to be so against it and at this point I'm so riddled with anxiety that going to the doctor to ask for them is paralyzing.. Not only about going to the doctor, but also I feel like 90% of my personality is just ADHD symptoms and if I take all those away, I'm kinda terrified about what might be left.. And probably the only reason I have kept my current job is because the boss is my mom, but she's moving across the country now.. So.. Yeh.. Terrifying..
the way they are sitting from chad chad makes it look like they're scared of getting cooties
They are
I agree
i think that’s a symptom of every person in that room is sitting like a bisexual
lmfao thsi is the best comment ive seen
She's the alpha here that's why
The reason etiquette culture feels like its about treating women like children is because when it came to be they probably where dating children
Wtf is that emoji thing?
@@AmyAberrant
@@AmyAberrant it's one of the new youtube emojis, its a hand covering a face. Also a fellow What We Do In The Shadows enjoyer hello :)
@@NivaOranir :)
@@NivaOranir WWDITS is the best show anyone has made in a while. I stand by that.
Chad Chad talking about how girls are forced to sit in certain ways really got me in the feels. I still get comments from my family about how I sit and I'm literally 24 and don't even get me started on swearing. My dad and grandad still thinks its okay to reprimand me for swearing because "it just doesn't sound nice coming from a pretty lady" (sorry, my best translation from Spanish).
Isn’t the point of swearing to not sound nice? How do you swear nicely?
@@AlexCarrillo78 i think you’re taking the word nice way too seriously in this context. I speak in Spanish w my family so I translated it the best I could. Their point is that I shouldn’t swear cause that’s not what “perfect little ladies” do
Disgusting behavior from them🤢
@@victoria_is The question was more rhetorical, I think. The translation is perfectly understood.
I love that the dynamic of this podcast is often "Jordan acting unhinged and Jarvis being weirdly chill about it"
me and most of my friends tbh
or we're acting unhinged together
@@ohdreamaker ideal friend group dynamic
Locking Chad chads name behind a bonus episode is marketing genius
I assume they’ll censor it there too actually. If she uses a stage name and has no interest in using her real name I just imagine she doesn’t really want people to know it lol. But I don’t have patreon so who knows!
@@stellarae8257 if anyone’s wondering, they beeped it on patreon too. which i’m fine w cuz yknow privacy and all
True
@@lamibonxd agreed. Being online robs us of enough of our privacy so I imagine keeping that private let's her keep down the constant harassment of being a popular woman online.
@@lamibonxd ayeee I was right!! Thank you for confirming lmao 💛
I got clocked in my catholic middle school for crossing my legs at the knees instead of at the ankle and now I sit in the most wack position constantly. sitting “ladylike” is monumentally uncomfortable for me, I have chronic gay sitting tendencies
The misogyny in catholic schools is insane
the urge to have at least one foot in the chair is so strong for me
"Chronic gay sitting tendencies". That's the best way to sit, my friend 😌
I would have gotten in so much trouble at that school, I'm afab but love to "manspread", it's just so much more comfy than crossed legs or legs together
the way that i commented this 3 days ago and am now in pain cus sciatica from sitting in a bad posture for too long do not follow my example lmao
I remember the most ridiculous "don't do that because you're a girl" my mother imposed on me was banning me from wearing sweatpants to college (she has never been to college). I told her numerous times that it was normal and everyone dresses like shit but it became such a heated argument I don't even remember how that turned out lol. Just girl things 🤪
My mom never said it was because I was a girl, but she also told me I couldn’t wear sweatpants to school lol, she wanted me to wear jeans
I went through a 'i want to wear cargo pants' phase and my mom never let me cuz it wasn't for girls
I remember when I was quite small I wore a shirt and shorts that were different shades of purple but my mom insisted I should change. I said that my dad and brother could do it so why couldn’t I. She just said it was because I was a girl and they’re not. I’m n-b now but I still think about it from time to time. Despite being a second wave feminist, my mom STILL came to that conclusion. Idk I haven’t asked her about it but I’m hoping that that was a learning opportunity for her about double standards.
Regardless, I still had to change lmao.
A lot of the time they say it's so men or adults in general don't look at us sexually, which I did experience as a 10 yo, but no one ever thinks on how it shouldn't be up to the kid to dress for the adult gaze.
lmao she’d have an aneurism if she actually came to campus
I totally get what Chad chad was saying about making jokes as a girl. There are so many times when I want to make a joke but I know that people won't find it as funny coming from a woman.
Sarah Schauer once pointed out that for people to find women funny they have to think they're smart, and that will always stick with me
If you’re actually funny people won’t care if you’re a woman or not
@@RichardsGaySonNot how sexism works.
@@Waspinmymind there are plenty of successful female comedians
@@RichardsGaySon yeah, and those successful female comedians also get a lot of flack for being women.
i get your point. logically, your gender doesn't matter when it comes to whether or not you're funny, but sexism is not logical.
I hate the "put food on her plate before putting food on your plate." Like that just enforces that the man controls what and how much the woman eats. Which is so bad. Ordering for her does that too. Like the actual polite thing would be let her take her food first, and let her order first, but etiquette IS NOT politeness and respect, it is conformity to tradition.
I would say it depends on where you are or in what cultural environment you are in. In many countries food is served on plates for the whole table and it is seen as polite to serve others before taking some for yourself. This is not confined to only dates or women though so again, context, but it's not inherently a bad thing.
If you are moving in a western environment though and you only do this on dates or for women it comes off as infantilising and controlling.
@@gggthsba big difference between those is also the familiarity between people, if it's family or close friends putting food on your plate it's a lot more acceptable than a relative stranger.
wow i already knew call centers were terrible, but hearing Chad Chad talk about how every single second is tracked was horrifying
Anyone who hasn’t worked a service job in a while should read the book On The Clock by Emily Guendelsberger. She’s a journalist who works three modern service jobs - a call centre, a McDonalds, and an Amazon warehouse - and describes how much more dystopian these jobs are now since the advent of digital productivity tracking.
Oh yeah, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine having to also have to stop and submit a whole ass form just to step away to pee.😢
Right??
Thank fuck I live in a country with worker's protections. My time at a call center was fairly benign in comparison to what I hear from Americans.
I worked for 2 calls centers. The first one was for a bank, I only made it there 8 months. The second one I got fired from just short of 2 years. Reasons were for my “unaccounted” time was way too high for them and I would blow through my sick time as soon as I got it. Whenever I didn’t have the sick time to call out I’d step away from the phone more often. You best believe if I was gone longer than 2 minutes I’d get a text asking what I was doing. I got Covid at the beginning of 2021, but didn’t have the sick time to cover it and they didn’t have to go by state laws for time to cover for it so I ended up working through one of the worst sicknesses I’ve experienced. Got a write up a couple weeks later that my unaccounted time was too high and that ruined the transfer to the other department I had set up. Come to find out 9 months after being fired I have ms 🙃
Long story short, if you live in the US, don’t work at a call center.
I love that Jordan had to remind himself that Jarvis was supposed to be punched so there was no reason to jump in and back him up.
what chad chad was saying about sitting "ladylike" as a child hits especially hard when you grow up as the fat kid, cause it is definitely about being "ladylike" but its also about taking up as little space as possible -- hence the "don't spread your legs or sit with too abnormal posture, etc." growing up you feel shame being fat not only because of the beauty standards pushed onto girls and how easy it is for other kids to pick on you, but also because you always feel like you're taking up too much space in a room, which ties back into what chad chad said about not drawing too much attention to yourself.
really sucks growing up as a girl no matter what. I only talk about being the fat kid cause I can only speak on my own experience, but I have a friend who has always been super skinny and struggles to put on weight, and no matter what, people always judge you and make comments on your body, where boys are allowed to grow up being gross and loud and to just do normal kid things.
I feel so heard now!
Also apply to tall kids, still now I try to not get close to people when walking because I feel like I'll knock people over by accident
We're all very proud of you Jarvis! (Jordan and Chad Chad too for being cool, Chad's hair makes her look a bit like Hayley Williams :)
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I love Hayley Williams omg
@@vtilyaaaaa and I love Chad Chad omg x2
@@jessearmstrong-kooy2930 So do I!!!
Somehow I feel like that’s the point
Hearing Chad Chad's name and it not being followed by "not really" always leave me feeling like it's incomplete 😅
The sad boyz guests are so good
Also, as someone who worked at a couple call centers, I emphatize with Chad chad. Even if you work for a decent company, it really can be a stressful environment.
Please be nice to your customer service reps. 😩
We can only assume that this is the TRUE Chad Chad. Every video on Chad Chad's channel is not the true Chad Chad. Hence, why this one specifically was not anteceded with "not really."
Follow for more Chad Chad science tips ✌️
Her full name is Chadchad Notreally
I always try to ask customer service people how their day is going and to be as patient as possible with them, hopefully I can be a glimmer of sunshine in that gloomy ass job
Listening to this while working at a call center is wildly cathartic
It's so interesting to hear Chad Chad and Jordan talk about how visceral it is to watch the fight, like your body reacts to it and wakes up the animal instinct in you, it's wild!
your fight or flight is not meant for modern society. “my friend is being hurt” never had to be answered with “no no, it’s a fight for youtube, everything is ok”
In middle school and very early high school (COVID happened late in my freshman year so not much of high school) one of my friends did boxing and I felt the same way. My gut reaction was to help but I had to force myself to stay still and watch because it’s just a sport, my friend will be okay, they aren’t in actual danger. It felt like such a strange reaction considering my actual fight or flight reaction is to run away and avoid danger lol
I just imagined the both of them jumping in there lmao…
This happens when I watch people dance. Idk how to dance at all, but my body twitches at certain beats
When I realized Jarvis was gonna be in a boxing match i was already feeling my fight or flight spiking to protect him lol. Not that he can't do it, I can see he's been training and I know he's a smart and healthy individual.. but to hear the nicest guy on youtube is gonna be in a fight, it confuses my brain lol.
I used to live RIGHT in front of the Floridan hotel and it took me 3 months of looking out my window to realize its Flori-dan and not Floridian and it made me sooooo angry
Wait.. HUH💀
The pressure and stress of constantly being policed to be 'ladylike' as a kid is SO real
On the topic mentioned at 1:27:55 I remember getting told in elementary school to “sit like a lady” if I ever had my legs even slightly spread. They’d tell me to cross my legs and bs like that. In response I would always spread my legs like a guy would lmao. Even as a kid I hated being told to act like a “lady”, let kids be kids if they’re not being gross.
And then the second that you cross your legs in front of your class, they start laughing at you because they think that you're masturbating or smth
i was homeschooled for several years due to severe bullying (past the point i feel the word bullying covers it. it was abuse and harassment) and my mom didn't teach me shit. for several of those years i slept in and played video games all day and nobody cared. it's so easy for you to slip through the cracks.
for me (an autistic person) my education unsurprisingly went downhill in 2020.i mean i absolutely hated school in 2019 but for some reason i could do all the classes fine, bc i didnt really… do any schooling in 2020 i suck at class now. i stopped going to school in late 2022 right now im not being homeschooled im just kind of lying in bed all day, its not great
anyway i think i started off with a point but i forgot it so now i just said a thing for no reason
Yay, I felt so seen when Chad Chad was talking about her experience with customer support and when she mentioned she was still living with her mum. I feel a lot of pressure to earn more and move out rn, but most of my money goes to therapy. I feel you, Chad Chad. It’s nice to know we share a similar experience.
Btw, thanks to Jarvis and Jordan for also speaking about the read only mindset. Made me wanna comment, as I’m trying not to be scared to put myself out there, even though a harmless comment can attract lots of toxic trolling
@@welivina thanks for sharing with us, I promise we don't (usually) bite :p
just try to remember that all the hate on a comment can stop by you just ignoring the notifications lol. Sometimes if I’m getting negative attention on a comment and it’s not credible criticism + I still stand by what I said I’ll just ignore my notifications. Open the notification box but not actually read anything related to that comment. Just an idea! Spending a couple hours away from your phone when that happens can help you realize that that drama is only on the internet and doesn’t affect your general life. With time I’m sure you’ll get more comfortable :)
@@welivina
Same boat here, no shame in struggling to move out, take care of yourself first 💜💙 as long as ur in a safe spot rn
At my 10+2 (covid delay lol) year reunion I was talking to one of the girls who was in all honors, I told her I didn't understand how they all managed such a crazy work load and were so smart. She laughed and told me she retained none of it because it was so fast paced and intense, but also pointless. It was a comforting conversation
as someone who works at a call center I felt heard. 🥺had a bad day this helped a lot. sorry for everyone whose had to work for one. please spread kindness. love this podcast ❤
i cant imagine the emotional toll that the job gives u :( hope ur holding up alright, wishing u well!!
Yooo me too! I got one day off calls recently and it was just this moment of.. wait my workday can be peaceful? What?
Real
God for real! I went from working in a call centre (govt contractor, i won't go into detail but people were in pretty harrowing situations) to being a receptionist at a local business and I was genuinely showing trauma symptoms for at least the first 6 months at my new job.
Like hypervigilant, tense all the time, jumping at any noise, frequent panic attacks and migraines, constantly wondering when the other shoe would drop and I would be in trouble etc, feeling like I was being constantly surveilled even though I wasn't anymore.
It took me a long time to trust that something bad wasn't about to happen because I was so used to work being painful that it freaked me out when it wasn't. Tbh even now I still get a little spike of anxiety if I spend >5 mins not actively on task, but we're working on it 🙃
To anyone currently working in a call centre you are worth so much more than how you are currently being treated, and you aren't being weak or dramatic for thinking it's inhumane. You deserve so much better ❤❤
Time Stamps
0:00 - Intro
4:48 - School
12:36 - Creator Clash
25:36 - Talking about Chad Chad
56:20 - “Ladylike”/ Etiquette Content
thank you sm!!!
What Chad Chad said about homeschooling and your parents only being able to teach until a certain point is SO true, it kind of becomes teaching yourself at some point, or relying on outside help.
as someone who's always been corrected in how i "needed" to sit as a girl growing up, i've noticed that as i've grown to adulthood that depending on how i'm sitting shows how comfortable i am in a situation. if i'm self conscious or in front of strangers i'm sitting "ladylike", but if i'm confident or around people i know i usually sit criss-cross. regardless, growing up being a young girl (a kid) and not being able to sit criss-cross in a chair if i wanted to (typically a kid sitting position) now seems so confusing to me. i get teaching manners, but in a class sitting for about an hour straight or during casual situations as a 5-10 year old why can't i just be comfortable?
Chad Chad honestly did a really good job of being able to articulate the fact that women and girls aren’t really allowed to take up space in any given situation, as an AFAB, I’ve kinda forgotten how weird that concept is because of how long it’s been in my life, yk?
At the end, ChadChad verbalized a lot of things I didn't even notice I was enforcing on myself due to me being raised up as a girl... Damn...
As someone who was homeschooled K-12, Chad Chad's description of homeschooling and the discussion around it were really relatable and accurate
i can't imagine being homeschooled that long wow
Eyy full Monty homeschoolers in the house
Wow, thank you for sharing that perspective on US education. Everything chad chad said about homeschooling is spot on, compared with my experience as a former homeschooled child.
I always had a story about myself that I was a “bad student” but it’s only in recent years I’ve begun healing that shame by realizing it wasn’t my fault, and I was a child that wasn’t set up for success. And I’m pretty cool now so it all worked out 💟
Same, I feel you. ❤️ it’s tough.
As someone who went to public school, it is absolutely WILD that someone HOMESCHOOLED was thought of as a poor student??? Like,, in that situation it really is a poor teacher scenario
Same here, too. 💜
Same journey for me too. It's heartbreaking realizing the adults in your life failed you, yet not as heartbreaking as believing it was all your fault. It wasn't your fault. I'm happy that you're healing. I try to be the adult I needed back then, and speak up when something isn't right, especially for kids. I find that healing
Step one to being an elegant lady: Say graciously when you mean gracefully.
Goodness gracefully
badly homeschooled child to troubled adult pipeline goes hard
(not saying you’re troubled ms chad it’s me)
For reallll
Basically screws you over socially and educationally for the rest of your life, it's great!
@@lydia-cain true
@@lydia-cain tbf the educational part of high school doesn't do too much IMO. Like yeah it exposed me to so much knowledge but the American school system is all about memorization and cares less about the actual learning and retention. The social aspects however are beyond necessary. Spending like 8 hours a day 5 days a week with your peers teaches you socialization fast and it is sink or swim at that point and I feel like homeschooling just wouldn't give that to you.
sometimes i forget chad chad’s name isn’t really chad chad, despite her reminding us near constantly
"Not really"
chad chad
She has conditioned us all like Pavlov's dogs lol
The interesting thing abt ettiquite to me is that sometimes there is a really rational explaination for something (some 'unladylike' ways of sitting would totally expose your underwear if you were wearing a skirt, for example)and other times theyre just totally made up bullshit, and theres not an easy way to differentiate between the two
ugh that's the worst part about wearing skirts, i can't sit normally unless they have built in shorts or something. >X(
@@dottyContrarianI wear bike shorts under all of them. (Can add pockets)
Or I got now step one underwear (because I have been stealing my bf's underwear) it also helps if you chafe
@@tatiana4050 i'll take your suggestion. :)
@@dottyContrarian because for the life of me I can't sit still.
Underwear is still clothing so I honestly don’t care about that
Jordan being left out of the thumbnail for the 3rd straight ep like British people are bad for the algorithm is sending me lol
Watching this on my break from my call center job. Had to skip over that section because it is making my heart rate go up. I am feeling it so hard!
Hope you’re feeling better..
I’m with Chad Chad, I hate the “inside winter” during the summer where the AC is blasting 😩
Love when Chad Chad collabs with you!
Yeah, I have to take a sweater everywhere I go despite it being 100 F° outside lol
Im literally sweating and having a hot meal in rooftop cafeteria rn because it's Russian winter inside. dreading the cold feet
@@Hip.Username same lol!!
lmao I used to hate it too until i realized that I'd much rather freeze to death than walk anywhere in my country's scorching 50°C+ temperature, now I never really take the cold for granted 💀
No shit, I knew a homeschooling mom who put "Jedi training" under her kid's phys Ed requirement because he would spend hours outside swinging around a stick pretending it was a lightsaber
thats amazing
That's actually really cute lol.
1:15:21 so the guy has to serve the girl on the first couple dates… but then i guess once they're in a committed relationship the roles switch and the girl serves the guy forever? that's how these types of couples usually end up at least… it feels like the whole strategy is to trick her into thinking you're nice so she'll think she's lucky to become your tradwife
i am very tired so hopefully that made sense lol
trad trad
straight men think women can only be tricked into a relationship
It sucks that people in customer facing roles often deal with so much abuse. It would be cool if company phone lines would start with a message telling the customer to be respectful or the employee has the right to terminate the call.
I feel like the “it’s been” bare naked ladies thing is definitely a universal neurodivergent experience; because both me (ADHD) and my (also ADHD) boyfriend do the same fucking thing anytime someone says that 😂
ADHD and autism, I do it every time lmao
my mashup-addled brain does it sometimes even though I’ve never heard the original song
being european, i feel like the experience americans have with 1st foreign language is how i am with 2nd foreign language
like my 1st foreign language is english and im completely fluent and have no issues with it, but everything i know in english i learned when i was very young from cartoons or the internet. despite learning since 1st grade i feel like school hasnt taught me anything but vocab i already knew and useless grammar nitpicking that no one, and especially no americans care about
my second foreign language however is german, and idk jack shit from german. like four years and im still lost on basics sometimes
school's are just bad at teaching foreign languages i feel
Schools apparently miss the point of teaching anything other than how to develop massively complex coping mechanisms to protect yourself in a ruthless environment. And that if you let go and just BE relaxed and not alert and fight or flight all the time you get punishment for that too 🎉🎉
Well, it’s also, you know, German, the language too tight fisted to buy vowels and spaces between words.
me with Dutch fr 😭😭
Omg same with the english part!!!
I can't imagine being a jerk to a call center employee. Being on the phone stresses me out enough, I think if I started yelling I would just die.
I like how one of Chad's official languages is French so the French guy accent actually kind of fits in
I def think it's a failing of many schools in the US that grades are prioritized over learning. I fell into that trap, too. I chose to take German over Spanish. I'd slap some sense into my former self, if I could.
As a European for me it was the opposite, I took Spanish instead of German in middle school. It was a huge mistake as my attempt to learn Spanish, meant learning my 5th language, not at all easy. German would have been a much better choice as it was the 2 language I ever learned. However, my German had experienced limited development of more advanced vocabulary and grammar rules along with writing ability, for 6 years by that point. Although I had been born In Germany, my family moved to my fathers home country the summer before 2 grade and I had to concentrate on learning my 3 language.
Fortunately I chose German In Highschool and as a consequence, I was able to both learn new knowledge and refresh my memory. Funnily enough, I feel that I have the broadest vocabulary in English even though it is my 4th language.
Chad Chad explaining her experience as a child totally connected for me, and I think it is very common experience for girls growing up. The majority of us are told those and other things throughout our adolescent life.
I will have to disagree with Jordan on people forgetting all of their second language after school being uniquely American. I took french in school (granted as a third language) from 6th grade till the end of 11th grade and when I was in France last year I literally couldn't understand a word anyone said or form even remotely coherent sentences. Most of my school friends have also forgot everything, from like almost 30 people maybe 5 or 6 people still know even the basics.
What nationality are you if you don't mind answering?
Can you still recall the 2nd language
@@bethanychatman9531 German
German here with 2 years of Spanish, 4 years of French and a couple of Japanese and Korean lessons. I barely remember anything because it was over 15 years ago and outside of singing along to music I have no practice 😅
@@ecliiipsssse its english so yes, but I have been using english basically daily since 7th grade so its not really a fair comparison
Chad Chad talking about working remote at a call center is so uncomfortably relatable. I also work remote for a call center, still super micromanagerial and needlessly monitored to the point its stressful, it just isn't for dental billing.
I actually always thought Chadchad's wigs looked really cool.
I think the thing about how you sit as a young girl comes from the assumption that girls will be wearing skirts. I even got told to sit with my legs shut when I was wearing trousers and I’d literally be like ‘why???’
Also like taking up too much space and being too noticeable, same kind of thing of being too loud. The ladylike stuff that is so everyday gets engrained into you even by people who would probably be horrified if they really thought about it.
I was homeschooled in Texas and they didn’t care what we were taught no regulations what so ever lol
We had “art class” where my mom would send us to the garden and draw a random plant and describe it lmao
@@sarahbauserman8256 that's very relateably homeschool
even funnier to add to jordan's spanish-speaking french-german-italian-australian in brazil is that brazil doesn't speak spanish, brazil speaks portuguese
1:29:40 i’m autistic and i’m hyper talkative - i talk a lot and i don’t have great volume control. it would get picked on so much that i would wake up actively trying to speak as little and as quiet as i could to try and stop it
i also remember trying to replicate jokes i had heard people say but they never seemed to work because i would be cut off or not allowed to finish it, i was always so confused as to how most people were able to have floor space to speak and i didn’t have that
honestly hearing chad chad talk about it is really validating because i always felt like the only one that was diminished for wanting to be an equal part in conversations, jokes, and humour 😭
The way Jarvis sat made his legs look absolutely HUGE 😂
He looks so jacked!
Thank you for putting me on to chadchad, she has become one of my fav RUclipsrs!
Why?
She’s a radical dame - she seems like a super fun person to just kick it with too..Love her ❤️
For me it was the other way around: I got to know Jarvis (and then Jordan) because of Chad Chad. I love these 3 together, I want her to become a permanent member of the Sad Boyz
@@user-ky6qj1ww3d wym why
@@PaulaC-137 agreed
Hearing all of you guys talking about the emotional aspects of being there is making me tear up all over again 🥺🥺🥺I was there for it (literally JUST FOR JARVIS as well haha) and got overwhelmed several times to the point of crying - and not even in a bad way! It truly was such an amazing and special night and I'm sure it was even way more so for you three!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I was homeschooled too! My mum stopped being able to actually help me learn when I was like 3 years into it, so I was learning from just schoolbooks. It sucked.
I love how Chad Chad talked about homeschooling. I was also homeschooled until college and it's so refreshing to hear someone talk about it in such a casual way and making it sound so normal. I always got questions like "you seem so social that's crazy" because of the stereotypes around it. Happy to have a figure like Chad chad
I was homeschooled and got a highschool credit for working the local renaissance festival. 10 years later, I work renaissance festivals full time.
I was homeschooled up until sophomore year of high school and as it turns out we'd accidentally joined a cult somewhere along the line.
Jarvis the ash on them kneeeeees. 😂 it's giving army crawled through flour. Thank yall for the content! ✊🏽
i was delirious and it was a long weekend 😭
@@SadBoyzPod haha its cool it happens to the best of us.
Every time I get one of those call center calls, I tell myself to be a jerk so they never call back, but every time I hear the person's voice on the other end of the call, I can't bring myself to say anything mean. It honestly makes me so sad when they ask me how I'm doing, and when I ask them in return, they are genuinely surprised I asked. Instead of cursing them out, I just hang up when they start reading their script, and even then, I feel rude. The only time I was ever rude to a call center employee was when my dementia suffering grandma kept getting scam calls from a bunch of fake companies.
on the other hand, scammers are fair game lol
I worked as a debt collector, and our building was basically a bomb shelter. Someone set the roof on fire, and we weren't allowed to evacuate because they were sitting outside waiting to shoot us. We were fine because the building was designed to withstand a siege.
I constantly think to myself "if there's one thing about me, I'ma be comfy" when I'm out in public lmao the clothes I wear, the way I sit, everything
Not trying to be hateful, because I love this podcast. The amount of talking over the guest compared to the male guests I've seen, really bummed me out. Chad Chad is such an incredible person, and she just had no room to talk in amongst the uproarious jokes and shut downs that didn't allow her access to conversation. I'm not accusing or assuming, I would just say that giving someone the breath to speak would be helpful and massively improve the guest to host ratio.
It looks like Jarvis is protecting Jordan from ChadChad, I don't know why but this is the funniest shit ever
I had just taken a giant swig of water when Jordan said 'now do our homework you anti-slavery dork!' The cleanup was huge
1:28:21 this is unironically so true because when I started transitioning(ftm), people started laughing at my jokes more, even if they were the same jokes -_-
im so glad that chad chad was saved from their life of miserable cold calls and then found these wonderful smol beans and now they're all friends. this is exactly what my heart needed.
I love Chad Chad omg
And seeing her in like a non-scripted close up is so interesting. She's so pretty😭❤️
The undeniable trifecta of hilarious culture commentators
And can we also acknowledge how damn beautiful these three are 😧
So is there a solid reason as to why these 3 don’t have a full podcast together yet…?
y e t
This particular roast of Joanne Rowling was extremely good, thank you
Also please note the fact that in Legacy the trans girl's name is SIRona. Like maybe it was an oversight whoopsie but even if it was you'd think SOMEONE would notice and be like "hey, maybe we could just call her Mary or something?"
It is actually a name, it's from a Celtic healing Goddess; but really?, of all the Celtic names they could have gone with?.
@@babs2952 Yeah, especially given Rowling’s obsession with pun-adjacent names I cannot fathom that name was chosen with good intent
Don't feel bad Jarvis, I'm german and can only say 3 things in spanish.... i had it for 3 years in school (8th to 10th grade.)
I'm one of those silent people who almost never comments but consumes and enjoys your content. Thank you for keeping me entertained all these years!
Just left a call center job and felt Chad so hard when she was talking about her experience, man. It's wild how some people don't even see you as a real human being. I've had some great interactions as well that I still think about fondly but the bad ones just blend together bc they were so common.
Happy Chad's on here, I really like listening to her for hours on end
I can’t help but hear jarvis’ knees screaming for help
My schooling experience was similar to ChadChad's. It was a religious organization and a bunch of my text books were in 'religious perspective'
oh my god I had something similar, with these paper workbooks we had to order from the "school". The actual work seemed inadequate in retrospect but the weird comic art was really funny sometimes.
I gotta say, Chad Chad is just the definition of "cozy" in this video. Like, if someone made this into a comic book, the word "COZY" would be a sound effect over her head.
exercise-induced asthma gang rise up (but not too quickly or frequently)🙌🏾
I've already decided I'm NEVER working at another call center, after just working at only one. And mine was actually a good company! But speaking on the phone makes me anxious so doing that all day put my stomach in knots. Between that and having a minor health emergency and having to get back on the phone immediately after and act like nothing even happened while my computer logged my time I was busy being ill- NEVER AGAIN.
Literally just wanted to say I love u chad and I seriously look up to u
I’ve been silenced and shamed my whole life and i don’t talk anymore like,,, at all.
I feel like my voice doesn’t have a purpose but omg ur so funny and vibrant it’s so inspiring
u were meant to be here, your voice matters so much more than you know
jordan with the french-accent-safari bit 😂 too good
So happy to see Chad Chad in this episode. I love you three together!
I always figured you didn’t announce when you went to the bathroom because you didn’t want the others to have the thought of bathrooms in their minds while they’re eating. Etiquette is supposed to be about making the people around you as comfortable as possible. Etiquette is not supposed to raise you above others because you are not above others.
This podcast is really comforting. I love the calm vibes and the guests are amazing (looking at you ChadChad 👀). Love the topics too. I love Sad Boyz keep it up Jarvis and Jordan y'all are great! ❤
I can’t wait for Chad Chad vs Jordan Adika at Creator Clash Three
The only thing more exciting than that would be Phillip DeFranco vs Belle Delphine and/or MatPat vs Alpharad
Looking at the insta photos after they described them is so funny. Drew has such concern on his face.
stupid question, where can i find them (obv insta but yk)?
yooo chad chad on sad boyz! love the pod, love jarvis and jordan, and love chad chad. great stuff.
What a safe and wholesome friend group ❤️