The Misty Experiment | The Secret Battle For The Ho Chi Minh Trail | Full Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024
- THE MISTY EXPERIMENT: THE SECRET BATTLE FOR THE HO CHI MINH TRAIL is an hour-long documentary that profiles a special U.S. Air Force squadron whose pilots volunteered for one of the war’s most dangerous air missions. Their assignment: search for enemy supply transports and anti-aircraft installations concealed within the web of trail paths and waterways collectively known as the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The squadron also directed on-site rescue operations for U.S. and allied aircrews shot down while flying over the jungles of North Vietnam and Laos.
The activities of Operation Commando Sabre, the official name of the mission, were classified as "top secret" during and immediately following the war. This documentary shares the story of the Misty squadron as told solely through the recollections of the veterans who volunteered for the mission. Their stories are enhanced by never-before-seen squadron footage and general archival combat footage from the war.
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Having been a military aviator myself and having been part of a combat squadron and having made videos about their operations, I have to say, this video is outstanding! Thanks for this documentary! Keep the memories alive!
Who knew? What a fantastic story of aviators with balls of steel. Salute to all!
These guys were the real heroes of the war. I just don't think anyone really realizes what these guys went through. I'm glad they got to tell their story after all these years.
Waste of American Vietnamese lives, equipment and money. Idiotic.
You’re talking politics. That doesn’t make these guys any less heroes that deserve to have their stories told !!
No greater love hath a man than to lay down his life for others…..RIP 3 Stripe PJ…respect 👊 young man
The joy and sorry is an excellent point. Flying is a dream. Loosing your friend is terrible. You gentlemen have lived more than most of us could ever imagine. You lived a life of imagination to most of us. Thank you. A great post. My family lost William (Billy) Mullen and appreciate these posts.
Fantastic Video well done Thanks to all of the brave Veterans that served our Country and gave there lives doing so. God Bless America the Beautiful. 👍😊
In every war we see examples of ordinary men doing extraordinary things. It’s too bad that we can’t hear every one of their stories. True hero’s and men that should be treated with the upmost respect and dignity.
Thank you all of you gentlemen bless you and yours forever .
The mystery of human heroics…wherever found…is outside of politics…maybe outside of life itself.🐇
Excellent documentary. Interesting as it was educational. I tip my hat to these men.
As a soldier of color who proudly served" I thank all soldiers who has served our country but we all fought and gave , Some have died, Im tired of the white wash, we all made America not just a certain group of Americans " Recon" Desert Storm. I appreciate all Veitnam vets and Korean vets.America return back to CHRIST.
The Viet Minh (League for the Independence of Vietnam) actively supported US in the second world war under the Atlantic Charter 1941 (which promised to end colonial rule). After the war, US rescinded the agreement and reinstated colonial French rule (backed by military aid). After North Vietnam defeated the French, the US refused to allow the Geneva Accords 1954 vote on re-unification because the communists were expected to win.
We hated Colonialism and the French as well but given a choice between another nation falling to the Communists or supporting the French in their battle against the Communists--it seemed like a no brainer. for the best account Read Langevals 'The Embers of War.' Premier Diem refused to talk with the Communists. And in July, 1956, he refused to hold elections for re unification. He asserted that the South Vietnamese Government had not signed the Geneva accords and therefore was not bound by them.
I lived in those same trailers in 1970. Moved down there from Danang in January.
These Misty pilots were 'special forces' of aviation. Less than 50/50 chance of making it back. And all volunteer. Damn!
Absolutely excellent, thoroughly enjoyed this!
An informative documentary about Misty bunch of skilled US pilots during Vietnam War
1200 aircraft lost in vietnam,you call it skilled?!you must be nuts geeze
@@knowstitches7958 Don't be an idiot. There is no better air force than the USAF. It's not even close.
Johnson directed ingress & egress routes and the pilots had to fly them. Over and over and over. A kid with an AK could make hits come the second group. It wasnt the pilots or groundcrew. It was less than stellar DC leadership.
Thank you.
I've seen a couple other programs about the Misty program and they painted it as more or less a failure. Even had some pilots that felt it was a mistake from the get go.
This is a very different impression and these guys obviously felt proud of their involvement was rewarding.
Thank you for your service men!
Salute
Those pilots were awesome it’s amazing what they did I was stationed in a place called phu Tia near highways 19 and highway 1 with a small infantry unit not far from phu cat airbase I flew out of phu cat twice going on r&r and going home in Aug 1969 ..matter of fact my dad built the f-100 he worked for North American aircraft factory in Los Angeles at lax the f-100 was his favorite place that he was involved with building…I also wrote home to my dad about seeing the f-100 in action when I was with the 25th infantry division down south near cu chi and tay ninh along the Cambodian border…welcome home brothers appreciate your service to our country….
The electric strawberry, I had a friend was over there in the 25th probably about the same time you were, Butch Crossland from Pennsylvania, he passed away a few years ago, great guy.
@@dukecraig2402 no I didn’t know your friend sorry for your loss the 25th infantry was a great unit to be assigned to they suffered the second highest casualties of the Vietnam war…they were constantly in the thick of it…
LBJ tied the hands of the AIRFORCE, had no respect for LBJ but tons of respect for the men who flew these mission.
Agreed
The cold hard reality is things had to be handled in a way as not to draw Russia or China into it, one wrong move, one Russian engineer working at a power plant they helped the Vietnamese build getting killed in an air strike could easily have brought them into the war which could very quickly escalated into WW3.
Johnson wasn't running things the way he was just for the sake of being a jerk, he was walking a geopolitical tightrope.
And something else you have to understand is he'd rather of not had US troops in Vietnam just the same as he'd rather of spent the 10 billion dollars it took to get to the moon on his "great society" plan, but like the lunar program US troops in Vietnam were a part of JFK's legacy, and taking a big dump on either one would have been political sui@/de (if I type that word RUclips won't let this post, I've been having that problem) for Johnson.
It's an absolute myth that Kennedy was going to "withdraw US troops from Vietnam", first off is there were no US troops in Vietnam when Kennedy was in office only advisors, but Kennedy wanted US troops there and had been pressuring President Diem to allow US troops to come into South Vietnam, the myth that he was going to withdraw US military support is people not understanding that when he said he was considering doing just that in a TV interview what he was really doing was sending a message to Diem that if he didn't allow US troops to come to Vietnam to fight the communists from the North, who were trying to invade the South, he'd stop the flow of millions of dollars in military aid flowing into South Vietnam, Diem wanted the weapons, advisors and money but not regular US troops, Kennedy wanted US troops there because there was an election coming up the next year and it looked like the public perception of him being weak against the communists of the world could cost him the 64 election.
And Diem lost his life over not wanting US troops in South Vietnam, to be clear Kennedy didn't order his assassination, but he could have stopped it, shortly before it happened the CIA station chief in Vietnam told Kennedy that a group of high ranking South Vietnamese generals who wanted US troops in Vietnam planned a takeover, this was the answer to Kennedys problem, and in all fairness to him he'd instructed the CIA chief to tell the South Vietnamese generals that he didn't want a bloody scene and that his preference would be that Diem would be allowed to leave the country and live in exile in France or whatever country would have him, and is why he was furious when the day after the coup there were front page pictures all around the world of Diem in the back of an armored personnel carrier with his head blown off, but it got him what he wanted, a regime that was all for US troops coming into South Vietnam, but before he could send them Kennedy himself was assassinated just 2 weeks after Diem was.
Johnson inherited a legacy he didn't want, he didn't want billions spent in Vietnam and didn't want billions spent going to the moon, he'd much rather have had it spent on his great society programs but after Kennedys assassination to go against his policies and what he'd been trying to do would have killed Johnsons political career and surely would have cost him the 64 election, and he didn't want his legacy to be one of someone who got to the White House by stepping over the dead body of a beloved president that'd been slain and then losing the position just a year later, so publicly supporting the space program and politically backing Kennedys position on Vietnam was necessary to winning the 64 election, but after getting the US neck deep in Vietnam he had to watch he didn't turn it into WW3, that's why there was the micromanagement of the war from the White House, the picking of targets and putting other targets off limits, one wrong move and this conversion might not be happening because we'd still be rebuilding after having been blown back to the stone age 55 to 60 years ago.
He tied all the branches' hands. Thank you
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Tied their hands from doing what?Invading North Vietnam? Starting WW3?
At the end of the day it was South Vietnams war to win or lose, the US military did exactly what it was supposed to do while it was there and that was preventing North Vietnam from invading the South, the fact is after 10 years of being trained and equipped by the finest military in the world when it came time for South Vietnam to put on its big boy pants and take care of their own business they blew it, that's on them and no one else.
Two years after the US military left Vietnam is when the North invaded the South, the US military didn't "lose" the Vietnam War and all this nonsense that it supposedly did for the past 50 years needs to stop, it's ridiculous, all this being butthurt and everyone looking to blame a loss that never happened on someone or something needs to stop, all that does is reinforce the false narrative that the US somehow or the other lost the Vietnam War, I've never heard of another military in world history who supposedly lost a war 2 years after they weren't even there anymore.
The US military did exactly what it was task with doing while it was there, Johnson, Nixon and everyone else involved did exactly what they were supposed to do which prevented WW3 from breaking out, it was South Vietnams war and their freedoms that were to be either won or lost, so that's on them.
Great watch thank you for this upload 😊 👍👍
Got to hear the Misty Story 1st Hand from Col.Bud Day, the Man, Was beyond Lucky if you want a Good Vietnam Story Look him up you want Regret it..
Wow, what an amazing story.
War is war. I went to Afghanistan, and all I can say is that war is bad!
Doing what, exactly?
Great documentary.
Just goes to show how much has been learned since the war in Vietnam.
What year was this filmed? Awesome content
I think pats on the back should be the result of a success not just participation. They didn't stop the trail.
Read the book a long time ago. Great video.
my father was sent to Thailand in 1968-69. he was there not only to fly Jolly Greens ( big helicopters as they called them) for rescue. another thing they did was to drop microphones along main trails to listen to activities below
With all this, traffic on the Ho Chi Minh Trail never once decreased throughout the entire American War. The Vietnamese were determined to fight and determined to win.
Bravo!
It was an illegal+ unwarranted war. Basically a civil war. Worthless effort.
How do you figure it was "illegal"?
And quite clearly you know very little about it from listening to leftist propaganda, it wasn't a "civil war" by any stretch of the imagination, South Vietnam was a sovereign nation that was threatened by an aggressive communist country to its north that was run by power mad men bent on invading it and taking it over, no different than North Korea wanting to invade South Korea, that's not a civil war, the people of South Vietnam didn't want to live under a communist regime and is why South Vietnam existed in the first place.
Be interesting to hear what veterans on the other side on the Ho Chi Men trail experienced.🐇
In 1959, Special Forces held the Bolaven Plateau. Then the good President gave it away. It later became the Trail hub against South Vietnam.
Great video I’d never heard of this
Said the ZU-23-2 gunner "Man, those F-100s are persistent...".
misty didnt want a slow FAC, misty needed a fast FAC, misty got stuff to do
Why couldn't friendly troops occupy the HoChiMin trail? Occupy the southern third of Laos, and the eastern part of Cambodia?
Reminding that America is # 1 . Fighting for our freedom. Free Men. The best in the world.
The mystery of human heroics…wherever found…is outside of politics…maybe even outside of life itself.🐇
Boy…Edge City had so many neighborhoods in the sixties.🐇
Fly Airforce….👊🏻🇺🇸
One of the Misty guys looks eeerie similar and Familiar to a former USA president during ww2
Elite Flying Tigers
The slime balls who run wars never personally face the terror they create.... that's for lesser mortals.
Hard to understand that we didn't have some kind of a cruise missile that could have done the job of those planes. The Germans had the basics in WWII and we had sent guys into space already.
for a good read check out ... "Bury us upside down." ..... just sayin'
Thank you sorry the government let you down
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Gov at the lost the war, not the military 6:11 I
What did Misty achieve at the end of the day? The Ho Chi Minh trail survived and prospered, playing its role in the American defeat in Vietnam.
Hi, your "secret battle", one of many "secret battles" in Vietnam, was to no avail because you lost in Vietnam, whatever the technology. You were beaten up by small guys dressed in black. You killed thousands of hundreds, still you lost Vietnam. Don't remember?
Killed thousands of hundreds? That's a pretty impressive kill rate.
That wass a stupid unnecessary and unwinnable war. We lost. Vietnam threwthe foreign armies out
Wluld you let a foreign army rule your country ?
" EAR " ?? That's a New One !!
Johnny, Lay Of The Sauce that Stuff Will Ruin a Man..Lol..
@josephadams2109 lol it was a typo 77yo but apparently you otherwise agree with my post
Thank you !
@@josephadams2109 was my question to you unanswerable ?
@JohnRyan-gr8bs what does the geopolitical situation at the time have to do with Misty pilots and their story?
@TP-kr5dp well one point is that ordinary men will agree to participate in unwinable and unnecessary wars
USA used geo engineering tech to prolong the rainy seasons covering trail ... operation popeye
How did we expect to keep South Vietnam from becoming Communist if certain vital targets are off limits? Seems like all we did was make it possible for the north to win.
LBJ was the problem!
Did Nixon get removed from office for mining Haiphong Harbor?
You nuts ?
No, he was re-elected in a massive victory over George McGovern. He was forced to resign over the watergate cover-up.
Did these guys realise they were aggressors who had no right to be there in the first place?
The supply lines came from China, not the ports in N. Vietnam! And the trail went through different countries. It was a no-win situation that lasted for nearly 30 years! The US got served in the Vietnam War! Permitted or not, the US would've still loss the war! The US military was outperformed in the field. And diplomatically, the US was outdone by the Communist Vietnamese on the political side as well! The US was outclassed at all phases of the war!
That’s why North Vietnam lost 1 million soldiers and US lost 52,000 I believe.
Yip 20 to 1 kill ratio is losing?
@@ron9381 You lost! They ran you out of Vietnam! Stop the cap!
@@jeremyhanton4467 You lost!
@@ron9381 It was 58,000 Americans that got killed in action! The NVA took it to the USA and the UN"s pieces! Stop the cap!
Yanks got they ass kicked
I see a bunch of losers trying to refight a fight they had already lost decisively.
USA had that war won several times. Kissinger and Johnson continuously let them re-arm/re-group and come back. Just like Korea the USA military had the entire peninsula and the brilliant politicians gave it back while getting thousands killed on both sides.
You see what you want to see.