We had to make the decision as to whether to build one out or just save some time and buy it finished. Glad we chose the Raven. Good Luck on your decision! Thanks for watching!!!!
@@db2overland I just recently found you and your wife. I don't usually watch stuff about campers but thought what the H..., really enjoyed your presentation.
New subscriber. I’m a 2017 Hawk owner in N. Cal., an hr from the factory. I use the camper throughout the Mtns and deserts of the Basin&Range. I use 3” memory foam atop the factory hard cushions. The combined height of the two is level with the tiny carpeted shelf that runs around the perimeter of the bed. And remember, those 6 roof latches are adjustable to allow more room on the bed. Your are going to want E rated tires when you travel off road. Lastly, I’d suggest you not roll your windows down. Fold the like the rest of us do. See Stan’s (4WC factory employee) you tubevideo on the Termal pac to see how they/we do it. Happy camping. Geologyjohn.
First off, thanks for the subscription and watching our videos, we appreciate it! Thanks for the info and suggestions. We all learn from each other. We definitely will be looking into different tires before we go off road.
Have had my Raven for 3 years now and have 'enjoyed' figuring out the storage issues. I bought a shell model w/furnace, solar and couch. Built a shelf for our ARB fridge. The absolute best upgrade for the mattresses is the ExPed brand self-inflating air mattress. They are foam filled and completely adjustable. The Queen size fits perfectly east/west. We use only the king size arrangement, so we also bought a twin size ExPed to fill the gap (also east/west). So we have a legit California King sized bed. These mattresses that are as close to a Sleep Number bed as you can get. When we wake up we can't figure out if we're at home or in the camper. We do leave the bed board slid out while traveling. Also, the ExPed 4" pads have like an R10 insulation factor. I also lined the the camper under the mattress with 1/8" Frost King duct insulation, that adds another R3 or so. Happy trails!
Awesome! We will have to look into the mattress brand. Been looking but still havent pulled the trigger yet on anything. It sounds like a great option for what we would need. Thanks for sharing the information, so appreciated. Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!!!!!
We have an external shower head that takes from the water tank and then we use a five gallon bucket for the toilet which has yet to be used, but I am sure we will break it in soon. Thanks for watching!
Great video! I just got the Fleet model on my Nissan Frontier. Love it!! The only change I made was to remove the battery and run the entire camper off my Bluetti AC200P.
@@db2overland Hey also, I mounted a rear camera on my bumper so I don't need to worry about seeing thru the door. It's really wide angle and can see thru the bike rack I have mounted on the hitch!
@UCw2Mdn2iMPH0bGDzXBuhC9w there are aftermarket cameras that will hook into your stock plug in I found one on amazon for my F-150. I'm running the rigd tire rack so I mounted it on that.
Thank you! I too am considering the M v. Raven for my F150 so really appreciated this. Can you post a link to those stairs on Amazon? I'd love to check those out! thanks!
Thanks for watching! I am so happy you appreciate it. You will love the Raven. Here is the link CR Brophy Machine Works RHS2 Black Receiver Hitch Stair with Two Step a.co/d/2xSbdTE
Did you upgrade your tires? I run 10 plies on my GMC with a hard side camper. Some of the stock truck tires aren't much better than passenger car tires. Great video. Thank you! :)
We still have the same tires on the truck since we bought it. We will have to make a decision on new ones in the future but for now we will have to make due. Thanks for watching!
Did you modify the suspension and or the brakes on your truck to accommodate the weight of the camper? How well does it ride? Sway? Stop? Nice video. Great looking setup.
The only thing we did was put airbags on. Rides great on the road. We have not gone off road yet. I am waiting till I need to get new tires, then I will probably go with 35’s. Might need to lift it a bit, but we will cross that bridge if we need to. Also when the fresh water tank is full you do notice it when stopping from speed. Thank you for watching, we appreciate it!
@@db2overland - Thanks for your prompt reply. I figured as much, and I think it’s important to be mentioned in these camper videos. I’m trying to size a rig for myself, and it’s a wide topic full of chances for choosing the wrong path. Take care! Safe travels, and thanks for sharing!
We sleep north to south king size. We are going to try a froli sleep system on the front with the largest pad. We are also going to try to replace the brick hard large pad in the front. I've concluded that our cheap topper doesn't do anything. It gives a false sense of comfort because it's slightly wraps around you as you lay on top of it. I also replaced the rear cheap 1960s RV porch light with a sealed unit and a switch on the inside. I also replaced the finger biter entry handle with a kayak handle. We've been in our hawk since last November full time traveling through Mexico and the US. We love our camper but there's a lot of things that four-wheel camper fell asleep on years ago. I'm slowly changing that. We put Velcro in the front and rear of the canvas to hold up the ends of the thermal packs. What was four wheel camper thinking, as you can see they just flopped down in the front and rear. So I fixed it with some 2-in sticky Velcro. We did go lithium and glad we did. I used mule expeditions four-wheel camper awning racks. No drilling needed. I also did modifications on the propane system. Added dual hose hookup to the tanks and a quick release for running or propane stove outside or our shower system that we use outside. Hope some of this might help, like I said we love our four-wheel camper they're just some things they need to catch up on and improve.
Thanks for the tips. We are still new and learning. I always love to hear from full timers because you deal with it every day. We have the dream of full time, so I will be hitting you up for more info. Thanks for watching we appreciate it!
The Raven model has a base dry weight of 1040 lbs. The only upgrade we did to the truck so far is added Firestone air bags to level out the truck when the camper is installed. Four wheel Camper recommends this. During the install at the dealership, they drilled through the bed and installed eye bolts for turnbuckles to hold the camper to the truck. They also cut a hole in the bed wall of the truck to install the electrical plug for outside lighting and charging of the camper battery. I hope this answers your questions and thanks for watching.
@@db2overland How does the truck handle with just the airbags? I think four wheel recommends leaf packs and I'm curious how it is just running the bags. I have tundra TRD PRO in a crewmax also and I'm considering the same camper. Nice review! Thx!
Truck handles fine with just the bags. Now we have not gone off road yet so I can’t comment on that yet. Just remember to let the air back out when you take the camper off. I can tell you that it doesn’t not handle well, don’t be like me and find out on your way to work. 😂. Thanks for watching and the comment!
With all the accessories that we have it would be right around 30k. If you go to their website, they have the cost breakdown of all their accessories and you could build your own. We purchased this build from someone who no longer wanted it. It was pretty close to what we would have built. Thanks for watching!
@@db2overland Just get a "Luggable Loo" by Reliance. Disposable bags, real toilet seat, and it fits un that little space right at the back door on the passenger side. (that's what that space is for according to 4WC)
We do have something similar for when we need it. Five gallon bucket with a seat lid and pleasant smelling gel packets and bags. It's always along for the ride, plus you never know when a five gallon bucket might be needed. We stow it in the cab of the truck. Currently we are working on a removable storage compartment for that empty space by the door.
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Pleasant journeys you two.
Good to see the Raven represented. Not many Raven videos out there. Trying to decide between one of these or a Project M.
We had to make the decision as to whether to build one out or just save some time and buy it finished. Glad we chose the Raven. Good Luck on your decision! Thanks for watching!!!!
Sure nice to see someone who hasn't over-indulged in tattoos from head to foot.
Thanks for noticing, I just use the beard to cover the ugly. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it.
@@db2overland I just recently found you and your wife. I don't usually watch stuff about campers but thought what the H..., really enjoyed your presentation.
Thanks, Lawrence, for the kind words. We do more than camper/camping content. Stick around there is more to come.
Enjoyed the video/instructions. Looks like a great camper! Just wish I was a little younger and more limber. But then Kim gives a great massage
New subscriber. I’m a 2017 Hawk owner in N. Cal., an hr from the factory. I use the camper throughout the Mtns and deserts of the Basin&Range. I use 3” memory foam atop the factory hard cushions. The combined height of the two is level with the tiny carpeted shelf that runs around the perimeter of the bed. And remember, those 6 roof latches are adjustable to allow more room on the bed.
Your are going to want E rated tires when you travel off road.
Lastly, I’d suggest you not roll your windows down. Fold the like the rest of us do. See Stan’s (4WC factory employee) you tubevideo on the Termal pac to see how they/we do it. Happy camping.
Geologyjohn.
First off, thanks for the subscription and watching our videos, we appreciate it! Thanks for the info and suggestions. We all learn from each other. We definitely will be looking into different tires before we go off road.
Thanks for your video👍🏻
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it. Check out our other videos on the camper.
Have had my Raven for 3 years now and have 'enjoyed' figuring out the storage issues. I bought a shell model w/furnace, solar and couch. Built a shelf for our ARB fridge. The absolute best upgrade for the mattresses is the ExPed brand self-inflating air mattress. They are foam filled and completely adjustable. The Queen size fits perfectly east/west. We use only the king size arrangement, so we also bought a twin size ExPed to fill the gap (also east/west). So we have a legit California King sized bed. These mattresses that are as close to a Sleep Number bed as you can get. When we wake up we can't figure out if we're at home or in the camper. We do leave the bed board slid out while traveling. Also, the ExPed 4" pads have like an R10 insulation factor. I also lined the the camper under the mattress with 1/8" Frost King duct insulation, that adds another R3 or so. Happy trails!
Awesome! We will have to look into the mattress brand. Been looking but still havent pulled the trigger yet on anything. It sounds like a great option for what we would need. Thanks for sharing the information, so appreciated. Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!!!!!
@@db2overland Don't get sticker shock, they're worth it. What's a good night sleep worth?
Nice rig
Thanks, we love it.
This is very well done. Thank you!
Question....How do you shower and use the toilet?
We have an external shower head that takes from the water tank and then we use a five gallon bucket for the toilet which has yet to be used, but I am sure we will break it in soon. Thanks for watching!
Great video! I just got the Fleet model on my Nissan Frontier. Love it!!
The only change I made was to remove the battery and run the entire camper off my Bluetti AC200P.
That’s a good idea! Thanks for watching, we appreciate it.
@@db2overland Hey also, I mounted a rear camera on my bumper so I don't need to worry about seeing thru the door. It's really wide angle and can see thru the bike rack I have mounted on the hitch!
I am trying to get a a Tundra tailgate from a junk yard just to take off the camera and install on the camper and use the factory plug.
@@db2overland 👍
@UCw2Mdn2iMPH0bGDzXBuhC9w there are aftermarket cameras that will hook into your stock plug in I found one on amazon for my F-150. I'm running the rigd tire rack so I mounted it on that.
Thank you! I too am considering the M v. Raven for my F150 so really appreciated this. Can you post a link to those stairs on Amazon? I'd love to check those out! thanks!
Thanks for watching! I am so happy you appreciate it. You will love the Raven. Here is the link CR Brophy Machine Works RHS2 Black Receiver Hitch Stair with Two Step a.co/d/2xSbdTE
Did you upgrade your tires? I run 10 plies on my GMC with a hard side camper. Some of the stock truck tires aren't much better than passenger car tires. Great video. Thank you! :)
We still have the same tires on the truck since we bought it. We will have to make a decision on new ones in the future but for now we will have to make due. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the tour! I'm planning to go for the same setup. Is it a 6' bed Tundra?
Thanks for watching! My truck bed is 5’6”. The short bed is enough room for the 2 of us. If you have any other questions, let us know.
What size bed is your tundra. We have a 2014 with the 6.6 bed 5.7 v8
I have the short bed. 5’6”.
Did you modify the suspension and or the brakes on your truck to accommodate the weight of the camper? How well does it ride? Sway? Stop? Nice video. Great looking setup.
The only thing we did was put airbags on. Rides great on the road. We have not gone off road yet. I am waiting till I need to get new tires, then I will probably go with 35’s. Might need to lift it a bit, but we will cross that bridge if we need to. Also when the fresh water tank is full you do notice it when stopping from speed. Thank you for watching, we appreciate it!
@@db2overland - Thanks for your prompt reply. I figured as much, and I think it’s important to be mentioned in these camper videos. I’m trying to size a rig for myself, and it’s a wide topic full of chances for choosing the wrong path. Take care! Safe travels, and thanks for sharing!
We sleep north to south king size. We are going to try a froli sleep system on the front with the largest pad. We are also going to try to replace the brick hard large pad in the front. I've concluded that our cheap topper doesn't do anything. It gives a false sense of comfort because it's slightly wraps around you as you lay on top of it. I also replaced the rear cheap 1960s RV porch light with a sealed unit and a switch on the inside. I also replaced the finger biter entry handle with a kayak handle. We've been in our hawk since last November full time traveling through Mexico and the US. We love our camper but there's a lot of things that four-wheel camper fell asleep on years ago. I'm slowly changing that. We put Velcro in the front and rear of the canvas to hold up the ends of the thermal packs. What was four wheel camper thinking, as you can see they just flopped down in the front and rear. So I fixed it with some 2-in sticky Velcro. We did go lithium and glad we did. I used mule expeditions four-wheel camper awning racks. No drilling needed. I also did modifications on the propane system. Added dual hose hookup to the tanks and a quick release for running or propane stove outside or our shower system that we use outside. Hope some of this might help, like I said we love our four-wheel camper they're just some things they need to catch up on and improve.
Thanks for the tips. We are still new and learning. I always love to hear from full timers because you deal with it every day. We have the dream of full time, so I will be hitting you up for more info. Thanks for watching we appreciate it!
How high is the top of the camper from the ground when the top is down on your truck?
It is about 90”. Keep in mind that every truck is different. It also depends on how much air is in my bags. Thanks for watching we appreciate it.
Have you made upgrades to your truck? What is the dry weight of the camper?
The Raven model has a base dry weight of 1040 lbs. The only upgrade we did to the truck so far is added Firestone air bags to level out the truck when the camper is installed. Four wheel Camper recommends this. During the install at the dealership, they drilled through the bed and installed eye bolts for turnbuckles to hold the camper to the truck. They also cut a hole in the bed wall of the truck to install the electrical plug for outside lighting and charging of the camper battery. I hope this answers your questions and thanks for watching.
@@db2overland How does the truck handle with just the airbags? I think four wheel recommends leaf packs and I'm curious how it is just running the bags. I have tundra TRD PRO in a crewmax also and I'm considering the same camper. Nice review! Thx!
Truck handles fine with just the bags. Now we have not gone off road yet so I can’t comment on that yet. Just remember to let the air back out when you take the camper off. I can tell you that it doesn’t not handle well, don’t be like me and find out on your way to work. 😂. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Can you get a backup camera for the camper
I have not installed a camera yet. I am planning on it. There are many out there, but I have not done much research just yet. Thanks for watching!
@@db2overland 4WC offers a rear camera. Indispensable when off roading!
What is the total cost all in?
With all the accessories that we have it would be right around 30k. If you go to their website, they have the cost breakdown of all their accessories and you could build your own. We purchased this build from someone who no longer wanted it. It was pretty close to what we would have built. Thanks for watching!
i am a FWC owner too. you are missing a porta potty
Not missing one, chose not to get one. We may add one later. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@@db2overland Just get a "Luggable Loo" by Reliance. Disposable bags, real toilet seat, and it fits un that little space right at the back door on the passenger side. (that's what that space is for according to 4WC)
We do have something similar for when we need it. Five gallon bucket with a seat lid and pleasant smelling gel packets and bags. It's always along for the ride, plus you never know when a five gallon bucket might be needed. We stow it in the cab of the truck. Currently we are working on a removable storage compartment for that empty space by the door.