@@iwantahandle290 which didn't take 2 years. not even Beethoven could play liszt liebestraum from zero to 2 years old. you can't imagine the technique it takes, people usually spend five times as much, this is simply another one that gives false hopes and lies
You probably still play it way "better" with a better feel for the keys, more emotions and all that stuff and even if, it's fake anyway. No fucking way this guy made this much progress this quick completely honestly.
@@l0pezvfx I don’t think so. Im self taught and i started with hard pieces too. If you practice for 2-3 hrs every day, you can achieve insane things in a month or two
@@Mc4KingTengo desde los 6 años tocando piano, dejé varios de estudiar pero tengo aproximadamente 3 años tocando seriamente varias horas al día y mi pieza más difícil es el Estudio op10 no no.4 y Op25 no.11
I've been self taught for 35 years, driven by that love and passion for music, and great to find your channel!!!! I too want to learn the Ballade, as a kid I loved the Military Polonaise the most out of Chopin's pieces, now it's the Ballade!!! Great to see your progress, you're doing brilliantly!!!!, and would love to follow each other's piano journeys!!! 🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🙂🙂🙂🤗🤗
are you sure about that? I personnaly learned it in like 5 months, i actually don't know anything about how much time these types of pieces should take to learn but i can guarantee you that this is possible
@@ryandixon8202 you can see on my channel when I started piano and fantaisie, I tried my best recording something to see the improvements and i will be glad to see your or anyone opinions and advices about it
Your progress is genuinely amazing for that time, you really have a special talent! What you already achieved in 2 years took me so much longer for back then. Regarding your playing, in the last clips the problem with your tension looked much better. Really try to keep your hand and forearms loose. One thing you can try to relief tension and get the feel for it is to have your fingers come up from the keyboard and loosely touch your fingers 1 and 5, and then have all the fingers touch the keys but not press down on it. For the quicker passages and runs, you could sometimes try to play more out of the finger instead of moving your wrists up and down too much. Usually it's better to try to keep your wrists steady while playing and generating force on the keyboard right from the shoulder towards your fingers (but you are doing this very well already, especially the jump to the Liebestraum showed a lot of progress). You should seriously consider taking lessons, because you already have such a strong foundation and a big talent. If you want, with a good teacher that helps you work on these things more efficiently your progress will be even quicker and they will show you how to practice a piece to concert level, which usually involves very detailed technique. But the most important thing; enjoy the practicing and don't take weird comments on here to seriously, have fun playing and delving into the world of this amazing music.
Thank you and i agree about getting a teacher I’m thinking about it. I agree also about playing for fun it’s the most important for me, however I didn’t practice exercices or specific pieces that could help me but I don’t really regret it
I’m in uni and I would give u two pieces of advice. First is, take your time when singing the melodies. Remember that the peak of any instrument is imitating the voice as well as u can. Take ur time and do not rush, imagine your melodies being sang by an opera singer. The second advice is, always relax your shoulders and think something like metal springs in your fingers. Pushing the key has to be smooth and without any type of tension. That way it sounds nicer (in real pianos) and u avoid getting injured
I'm just starting piano! Im 16 years old and I'm probably gonna be self taught as well but not entirely new to music and theory as i play guitar and drums and take guitar lessons. But seeing this gives me hope on my skill in the future! Hope you continue to have a great time on piano and with music in general and good luck to whatever you do next!
this is actually so inspiring to watch, I used to be taught professionally but now I'm self taught and it's actually really nice to see someone do so well self taught. Thank you so much for the motivation you've just given me
Genuinely incredible progress for two years, you clearly love music so much to go at this pace, so just keep it up honestly (if you want to of course) :)
this is genuinely so good for two years self taught, your motivation and passion and and is just so amazing. i think you're doing great! especially as someone who has been learning piano since i was a kid (still am a kid >.>), your progress is definitely amazing and beautiful. i would recommend just practicing solid technical requirements and such -> scales, chords, arpeggios as they really do help build up technique later on :D. and definitely remember to keep shoulders, arms relaxed. most importantly i think, is that you don't let your passion get extinguished by anyone else. teacher or no teacher, as long as your passion doesn't die out and you continue to love what you're doing, you'll be absolutely fine! :3 have fun on your piano journey!! ^-^
Excuse me???!!! WOW. I am completely lost for words right now! YOU ARE INCREDIBLE! This made me cry at 4am in the morning. I’ve never felt this proud before. You are insane! Great work, wow. I can’t even put it into words. I hope you reach all the goals you are setting for your Piano journey!
Man you're doing really good for 2 years! I started learning the piano at age 5 and I'm 18 this year. I didn't play a lot of these songs until just a few years ago. You really inspire me 😁 ❤🔥Keep it up!
Sounds really good for being self taught, I've been playing for 8 years and have been learning the Ballade No.1 for about a year and am only about 70% through it. Keep it up and you'll get there someday!
I wish I had you as a student… so many ideas are coming into my mind to help you. Bless you! I was originally self taught and I understand what you are going through.
I’m 14 and I’ve been self teaching myself with RUclips tutorials and copying peoples hand positions aswell for a bit but I stopped for a year and forgot everything and I started again a couple weeks ago and now I’m working on Claire de lune, so seeing this def is helping me not give up again , plus I have the same goal as you , to play Chopins ballade n.1 , plus a couple extras like the merry go round of life, and ALOT more. But hey you have gotten so dang far in that amount of time, congrats dude
Honestly im actually very proud and geniunely surprised at how much pieces you managed to achieve in 2 years!! I also have the same goal as you (which is playing ballade no.1) If you're still planning self learn and not taking lessons,, what I suggest is that you should buy an exercise book! I suggest you buy an exercise book called "The virtuoso pianist" by hanon. That makes your fingers practice fast dynamics, trills, long stretches of the hands, and octaves!! Therefore, you wont have a hard time completing and executing pieces like turkish march, fantasie impromptu, and much more harder pieces in the future! One thing you should keep in mind is NEVER (and i mean never) ever try to compare yourself to other pianists, i dont know you much but in my experience in playing piano, comparing myself did a massive bruise to my confidence n motivation in playing😭 So focus on yourself and play to your heart's content! Overall your playing is good, my feedback only is the stiffness of your fingers in some pieces you played, surely in the future, you'd be much better and warmed up. Wishing you the best in life!!
Amazing progress for 2 years! Self-taught here as well :)) Here are some insights on liebestraum no. 3: Technically correct notes, you play most of it well, just a bit of polishing would do. Also, try playing around with fluctuating dynamics and tempo. It enhances the depth and vibrance of the melody. Fluidity and control! Bringing out the emotions of the melody is the hardest, imo. To breath life into this piece is truly a dream of love, can't wait to hear you play this again! Good luck!
(advises below) It's absolutely incredible to stumble upon this video as I pretty much got the exact same start, started self taught at 18 and now (6 years later) 75% of the way through learning the first ballade (just finished the valse/scherzo bit 9 months after starting learning the piece). I diverged a bit from your path as I stoped being self taught after 1 year, here are the pieces in order I played to get there (these can serve as "biteable" chunks to get to these kind of pieces). Self taught - Für Elise - Turkish march - Clair de Lune - Chopin nocturne op 9 no 2 - Fantaisie Impromptu - Chopin etude op 10 no 12 - moonlight sonata 3rd movement (here got cut off at the beginning as I met my teacher who cut bad habbits of playing with flat hands, correct tension... , and learning how to actually read sheets to play with a "correct" interpretation (as written on the sheet)) - Schubert Impromptu 4 - Scales and arpegios and Chanon exercices... (mostly to correct slopy technique and fingers) - bach prelude in c minor - Rachmaninoff prelude in c sharp minor - Schubert impromptu no 2 - Clair de Lune (again to correct bad interpretation) - Chopin op 64 no 2 - Fantaisie impromptu (again to correct bad interpretation) - Bethoven pathetic sonata (in the following order : 3, 2, 1) - Chopin etude op 10 no 12 (gotta work on the left hand) - Chopin etude op 25 no 1 - Liebestraum - Chopin etude 25 no 12 - Moonlight sonata 3rd movement - Chopin ballade no 1 As tips to save time and things I wished I knew from the very beginning, the most important thing when learning technique is to ELIMINATE TENSION ! This is also the best advice I can give for the 1st ballade, the A major section to the coda is incredibly physically demanding, so if you waste energy in tension, you won't be able to do the whole piece in one smooth run... I think this is what you are experiencing right now (cf 12:35 ), it's hard to explain how to fix this in a youtube comment but here is a try: -For fast passages flatten a bit your fingers (this can be seen with scales, try for instance f sharp major, since you articulate less it's way smoother and can smoothly be played at 200+ bpm this way, or even the weird g minor melodic scale descend at the end of the first ballade...) , jumps over thumb tucks for arpegios. -For chords, use the wrist and not the fore arm (especially octaves, look at the end of hungarian rhapsodie 6 for a concrete example of the proper technique), always try to play chords in a relaxed way, if you feel tension it's either that you have a small hand span (cheer up in that case), or you are rotating your wrist wrong (a good practise for that is the part you played starting from 15:00 to 15:50). Then for technique, chopin etudes pretty much are the best exercises I know of, if you want to perfect a specific technique, play the corresponding etude (you don't have to play the whole piece if you are not a professionnal pianist, as long as you get the gist of it and genuinly understand how to properly play said technique, you can move on). Anyway, good luck on the adventure to conquer the first ballade, it's an arduous one, but the journey is worth it. p.s. The coda's difficulty is overated, if you master the "eliminate tension" part, the right hand of the coda is the easiest thing ever, the true beast of this piece is the A major section (octave runs bar 119-124 are bs, bar 110-111 rounds are impossible to hold, bar 113 Right hand is nonsense).
Amazing progress! Some tips are maybe if you aren't doing music theory you could learn some of the basics as it can help a lot with sight reading, improvising and just generally knowing the structure and patterns of the piece. I'm not sure how you practise but just in case you don't practise arppegios, scales and sight reading(which I'm doubting you don't) you should definitely practise them. Practise slowly, one hand at a time and good luck with the rest of your piano journey!
You're making great progress. I started when I was 19 and the first Ballade was the first piece I became completely obsessed with. I did manage to play it and I think you will too. Huge difference between the clips before your re-assessing due to wrist pain and after-your wrist positioning looks so much better. I can't help too much with the details but I can tell you that your goals should be to stay consistent in practicing, no matter how fast you feel like you're improving, and to work slowly while thinking about how to reduce tension-what are new ways you can move that make things a little bit easier? A lot of slow work where you play each note or chord and try to let all of the tension go before playing the next one can really help, too. Keep it up!
Your video is great! It's evident that you're still working on achieving crisp and clean sound in your pieces, but considering you've only been playing for two years, your progress is amazing. Personally, after two years, I wasn't able to play at that speed! 😄 I've been playing for about seven years now, and I'm currently working on the pieces you played after just two years. 🙈 I suggest focusing on making the fast passages cleaner; perhaps dedicating more time to practicing these specific bars would help. Especially in Chopin's Ballade, where there are numerous fast passages, playing them cleanly is crucial as it can sound muddy and less pleasing to the ear when not executed well.
Really good progress man, a lot of people might not believe you but i know it is possible from my proper experience. Keep doing this great and you Will play One day the ballade no1 !
Memorization and repetition can get anyone pretty far. It's a lot of work, too. In the long run having a general understanding of music theory, fundamentals, and good habits is best. As you experienced, improper hand position can really damage your progress musically and physically. I highly urge anyone who is self-taught and still enjoying piano after 2 years to take the time to learn theory and fundamentals they may have missed. It's a worthwhile investment.
amazing progress! you've certainly have dedication to make so much progress in those two years and you should be proud of what you have already accomplished. One thing I have learned recently as someone that went through a similar path in learning the piano as yourself, is don't neglect your fundamentals. Disregard this if you are already, but practicing your scales, arpeggios, sight reading etc. is boring af but it helps so so much. I spent a few years just learning the piano by going through piece by piece, spending hours and days on a single piece until it was perfect. That is nice and okay, but there comes a time where it can really weigh down on you especially if you want to tackle pieces like the Ballade . If you have those fundamentals down though, you could sight read 90 percent of a song and polish the rest within a week. it can be just 15 mins a day, and you'll see noticeable improvement over time. especially when you don't have time to put hours and hours into a single piece, instead you could put that little bit of time everyday that will improve your learning speed for every single piece you decide to learn.
@@fabiore1672i know right like I’m just trying to find the first person to comment how absurd this is 💀💀. Learning the Rach prelude itself takes about at least months of practice as someone who has experience.
@@diegodelgado4359 also the fact that for most of these pieces he just cuts the video before the hardest parts like in rondo alla turca for example but still i dont think that it's fake because sometimes by his hands or overall the rythm you can see that he clearly dosn't know what he is soing sometimes however it's still a good progress for a selfthought pianist
I love the fact that you started to learn to read sheet music, as many of these videos and of people I know only play by ear or from watching videos, but they can't play the really complex peieces, great job
I have started to play marriage de amour first and second movement on 4th month of learning piano, but then started getting back pains and stopped playing piano, and here i am 8 month later, still playing just those 2 movements 😢...
I was originally going to comment that my only critique would be to watch your hand position (e.g. fingers sticking up that aren't playing) but by the end you had even fixed that so bravo. This is incredible to watch.
It's looking great, your progress is excellent, quite faster than mine, I've been play one year and I'm currently learning Nocturne no20 in C sharp minor
Great effort! I also used to hurt my wrists a lot while having long practice sessions. A thing that helped me a ton was static-dynamic stretching of my wrists. You literally just flick them around for a minute, do a wave motion by interlocking your fingers and moving your arms, and nudge in all directions to cover the full range of motion.
2 years of absolute dedication! This is my fifth year learning the piano and i finally finished Ballade 1! I bet you can do it on your 3rd year because i was slacking off on my third and fourth year xd
One recommendation/advice i have for you is to stretch your hands before and after piano practice. I had to go through a lot of surgeries because i did not do that. (That was of course not the only reason but stretching would have prevented a lot of the pain) I ignored the pain in my wrists for several years. There was an infection slowly building up in my wrists that affected the bones and muscles. It did not only affect the piano practice but also my ability to write and at some point grab things. I had to go through 4 surgeries on my right and 2 on my left hand/wrist. I can now play the piano again but i had to take a break for about 2.5 years until i was able to start again for a few hours a month. I am currently able to play for approximately 5 hours a week. All of this started in 2013, i had my first surgery in 2017 my last one in 2019. in 2022 i was able to start playing „consistently“ again. I don’t wish this to anyone who loves to play their instrument(s) as much as i did/do. I don’t want to scare you with this comment i just want to tell you what can possibly happen if you don’t take your pain seriously. If you have the opportunity to see a doctor (if the pain is getting stronger or isn’t going away) then don’t be afraid to take it. It’s better to be sure about your own comfort than ending up with the same problem i had. So PLEASE take this advice from me, because I don’t want someone else to go through that too! Edit: i am sorry if there are any mistakes, English is not my first language!
so inspiring and so realistic, god bless you and i hope you reach your goal!! seeing this made me want to get a new piano and start my own journey goodluck again
man ive been playing for 7 years and tbh youre almost as good as me, if you keep practicing youre gonna be actually amazing!! good luck with your practice!!
No words can describe how much I'm proud....you really give us all a lesson to follow our dreams I have also a lot of pieces that I want to play someday and you inspired me to keep practicing I will be supporting you till you reach what do you want Hope all the best for you and keep going ✨️ambitious✨️ Thank you for the motivation 😃
Ur actually amazing!!! I’d say that for the Liebestraum, focus on bringing the voicing out more and keeping everything else down. Also practice the second cadenza slow and break it into groupings and then connect the groupings after they’re even. Keep up the good work 💪
I set the same goal, and have also been playing two years. You're miles better than I am though, excellent progression, I love to see how far you've come through this video. You progressed a hell of a lot faster than I did. Except my goal changes a lot, right now it's Mephisto Waltz (No .1, Liszt), but it was Prelude in G minor, or Moonlight Sonata, or La Campanella. Overall great progress, you can hit Ballade no 1, you got this!
This is truly amazing! Well done!!!! I would say for advice - rhythm is a big one. I can hear that the synchronisation of your hands is just a bit out some of the time, but you’re still doing very very well especially for only 2 years
I started learning piano by myself with some help from my dad and his friend like 4 months ago, and I think I made pretty good progress, my goal is to learn Beethoven Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement one day, so wish me luck, and congratulations my man, keep going and good luck with your goal!
thats so amazing ngl! i've been self taught my self for 2 years too and i can only play turkish march instead of every music that you can play just in 2 years 😂
Alors ces progrès en deux ans, c'est vraiment formidable ! Pour ma part, je viens de terminer le troisième Liebestraum de Loszt avec ma professeure au Conservatoire, et comme vous le demandiez, voici quelques conseils pour cette partie centrale que vous avez vraiment bien joué : - essayez, pour la première cadence, de travailler très lentement d'abord, et en fixant les doigtés de la main gauche. La main droite est difficile certes, mais pour moi la principale difficulté a été d'y adjoindre la main gauche de façon synchronisée. Et avec le travail, c'est passé ! - pour la première portion du ''più animato, con passione'', allez-y peut-être un peu moins vite, et faites bien ressortir la voix supérieure. N'accélerez qu'à partir du ''sempre stringendo'' en y allant petit à petit. Travaillez la main gauche séparément. - au moment des sauts d'octave, considérez l'accord arpégé à l'intérieur comme un élan pour l'octave et jouez en conservant le rythme. N'hésitez pas à effectuer un petit retard à chasue début de section pour mieux prendre votre élan. - ensuite, vers la fin de cette partie est noté ''affrettando'', ce qui signifie que vous devez accélérer et augmenter le volume. - pour la deuxième cadence, allez-y doucement. En théorie, elle doit commencer au tempo où vous vous êtes arrêté à la mesure 58 puis accélérer en effectuant un decrescendo. Mais ça n'est à faire que lorsque tout est parfait, travaillez d'abord mains séparées, puis enemble à faible tempo, puis enfin au tempo et vous serez au point ! Ces conseils ne sont que des idées, ne vous y fiez pas forcément comme parole d'évangile, enfin c'est cela qui m'a aidé à mener à bien ce magnifique morceau que vous avez été si rapidement amené à interpréter, je suis impressionné ! J'ai hâte d'entendre la suite ! 🙌
I think you played very well! I started learning the piano in 2020 simply because I was bored, and guess what I also started with Turkish march. I discovered I had some talent for piano and particularly liked classical music,Fast forward 4 years now I’ve been taking piano lessons for 3 years now and I like to learn the pieces by heart, not through notes. Although I am able to read notes I still prefer just learning it by heart. Now I wouldn’t have known my love for the piano if I didn’t have that keyboard, RUclips and boredom around…
The best advice I can give you is to practice separate movement in each hand in terms of rhythms. The piece isn’t particularly fast, it just seems that way because of the uneven note division. Hence, try techniques like 2:3 rhythm movement or 4:3 and try to switch hands as you go. If you don’t know what this means, it’s basically the amount of beats in each hand you play, before a duration of time loops for another round. If ur time is set to 6 seconds eg. You would play (for 3:2) 1 beat every 2 sec. in your left hand and 1 beat every 3 sec. in your right hand. This way you start each interval with a beat in each hand and separate during the interval, starting the next on the same beat again. Hope this helps ;)
Bro well done, I've played piano for 5 ish years now and have one piece of advice. Keep your wrists up for more controle. You are doing incredible!!!!!
its hard to find someone who tries hard enough by themselves these days. good jobb. its like you are going to reach a diploma level within the next couple months if you you keep going at this rate. have funnn~ Also, be more confident in yourself when you play; add greater emotionns into your wrist. match the original emotion
I think with some people don’t take into consideration is that when you see people on RUclips with these kind of results, they spend hours practicing songs. If they are just practicing songs and not working necessarily on reading and technique, they have cut the amount of time in half. It would take to learn these pieces. This is very realistic progress. People get so upset when they see another person playing great songs. You feel like it invalidates all of your hard work and practice. His goal is to play songs. That is exactly what he is doing. Your goal may be different and you practice different things to achieve those goals. Stop hating and be happy for this guy. Or you could just mind your business.
Yes that’s a really interesting point, I spent my time playing pieces without understand anything about musical theory, I forced myself to read sheet music a little but at the end i just memorized all the pieces cause I played them for hours and hours. Now i’m learning music theory (slowly) and try to improve my reading skills
I'm a 14 years old boy, who has passion in music, thought I have a teacher but I really want to learn pieces in your video as well as being able to teach myself. Your skills remarkably developed throughtout the years, keep up with the great work. Hope someday I can play Fantasie Impromptu
Just learned Ballade 1 after 5 years, it looks like you might be able to do it quicker than that!! Keep up the great work stranger. I also highly recommend learning some baroque and classical repertoire that will force clarity and evenness in the playing, it really helps to have a well rounded repertoire
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 This is something I am currently struggling with. The Chopin 4 ballades + Scriabin Sonata 2 is my dream recital and I’ll stop at nothing to get there, it will take a long time, so I totally understand that drive you have to be able to play Ballade 1. Within the 5 years I should qualify: I’ve been playing very seriously and practicing an hour or more a day for five years. I did play for a couple as a child but didn’t care, eventually came back as a teen and tried to rush into advanced repertoire really quickly. I only now feel like I can actually handle stuff that’s advanced, even so there’s a lot of gaps in my technique cause I rushed it too much.
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 Continued… You must, I plead with you, learn a couple Bach inventions. (1, 4 and 8 are fantastic) If you’re anything like me, they are TORTURE and extremely hard to play evenly and nicely but they have given me so much more control over the keyboard and independence in my hands. If you find these aren’t too hard, you could try some sinfonias or Prelude and Fugue in C minor from Book 1 WTC. For classical repertoire, try some movements from a few easier sonatas first. Such as Beethoven Op 49 1 and 2, or Mozart K 545. These are NOT as easy as you think but they are absolutely manageable. Once these feel great, after a couple months you can tackle a real sonata. I recommend Mozart K 332 (which i am currently learning) or Beethoven Op 13, “Pathetique”. These will teach you a lot I’m gonna post a part 3 give me just a moment
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 Finally, you MUST play other pieces by Chopin before you tackle the ballade, one of his most complex compositions. It’s great that you’re playing waltzes and the fantaisie impromptu. These are great, they will teach you fast finger movements, playing runs evenly with correct fingerings, polyrhythms, and waltzes will help with jumps, which appear frequently. I recommend also learning a couple nocturnes, poloniases, and/or etudes before diving into the ballade. The nocturnes will help you understand how to play expressively, learn how to play hands independently with flow, and large arpeggiated figures in the left hand that require you to understand proper arm and wrist movement and have a flexible hand that can stretch without tension. I recommend op 9 no 1, op 9 no 2, and op 55 no 1, all of which I played before the ballade. For polonaises, the op 40 pair is perfect. I also played both before learning the ballade. These will teach you the physically demanding aspects of the ballade, especially the octaves and massive chords as will as big jumps in both hands. Op 40 no 1 is all chords, but no 2 has some finger twisting sections in the middle that are amazing preparatory music for the ballade. You could learn some etudes, op 10 no 3, no 12; etc. I did not learn any before and I was fine. The only uniquely difficult techniques you have to learn appear in the coda, which is a monster and incredibly awkward to play. This I still am trying to polish it usually sounds messy in my renditions of the ballade. It’s a matter of luck and I’m working on getting better at it, but it’s the hardest section of music I’ve ever learned.
If this is real, this is great progress for 2 years!! I'd say a little of your playing sounds like there's some tension so try staying loose and maybe not keep the fingers so flat in some places! Remember tension comes from un proper usage of your muscle or over exertion so remember breaks are okay too. Some things just need a little more fluidity to so if you could find a teacher I think it would really help! But anyways really great job!!! This is amazinggg!
finnaly someone who didn't take 2 years to learn fur elise, great job dude! im heading the same direction rn (17 and just picked up lessons) and during past month learned turkish, fur elise (not perfect), some anime ops and my goal by next year is unravel (cover by animenz)
We are almost the same person 😂 I've been playing for about 2 years, my first piece was Rondo Alla Turca and we share waltz b150, rach op23 no5, waltz op64 no2 in our repertory (beyond the fact I'm learning/practicing Fantaisie-Impromptu and learning french). I'd love to play Ballade No. 1 well also 😅 I learned the ballade as my fourth piece after playing for only 6 months (yeah 👍 👍 I know, it was probably just one of the dumbest things I've ever done lol, I did it because I felt in love with it and couldn't wait for learning). What I'm trying to point is that our progress is EXTREMELY equal, and I've never seen anyone so close to me on it... 🥴😃 Edit: now I realized you also use a digital piano, live in a house surrounded by green area and is self taught as well... Bro, we are literally the same person
Wtf ur officially my bro now. I understand for the ballade, personally I'm waiting to be sure to play it correctly but I get it, good luck for Fantaisie Impromptu !
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 Thanks for the words! I hope you get Ballade perfectly and play it as passionately as possible, it's one of the most, or the most, beautiful piece we all have listened to. Good luck with it! 😁🤞 My native language is Portuguese (Brazilian one), therefore as a romantic + latin language speaker I had the luck of not having all the common troubles when learning French (only some of them) 😀 Gender of nouns is usually the same; verbs, numbers and grammar (conjugaison, passé, présent et futur par exemple) are very similar; and expressions for some reason are the same (aller à pied, faire les courses, coûter les yeux de la tête, etc). Anyway, thanks again for the support and for cheering me up! 😁 I've subscribed to your channel and will be here seeing your progress, since you also inspired me to upload progress videos like you. Don't give up! 🙃
6 months into teaching myself. I’m 16 and still cannot play at greatly as I’m aiming for, but I’m playing! My goal for this is to try to get the full song of liebestraum mastered, no matter how long. Great video, the progress you’ve made is phenomenal! Keep it up!!
It’s extremely impressive that you could self-learn such high levels of piano pieces in 2 years!! I’m sure that you have a lot of potential for piano playing. A bit of advice here: I’m not sure if you practise like this sometimes, but more than trying to sing the melody without haste, sometimes taking a step back could be beneficial. Take off the pedal, and play the passage a bit slowly. Maybe some details were missed, maybe the dynamics or layers were inappropriate. You could find out so much that might need to be worked on, especially dynamics and clarity, once you take the pedal off. Doing that could definitely improve your playing a lot! Also, relaxing while playing is important. Tensing up too much when playing will definitely affect the dynamics and how the sounds are produced. But keep it up! You’re doing very well as a self-taught piano player with 2 years of experience! (Sometimes playing easier pieces brings nostalgia, as a piano player who was taught by a teacher from scratch. Maybe you could put these amazing pieces aside for a bit and have some fun too :) )
It seems like your fourth and fifth fingers might be a little weaker compared to the rest, which is perfectly normal. However, investing some practice time to strengthen these fingers can make a big difference in your piano playing. You might find Chopin's "Chromatic Étude" (Étude Op. 10, No. 2) to be a beneficial piece for strengthening your weaker fingers. This étude is specifically crafted to challenge and improve the coordination and strength of the fourth and fifth fingers. Its rapid chromatic passages traverse various octaves, demanding precise control and dexterity from all fingers, including the often less robust fourth and fifth. By dedicating practice time to this piece, you can enhance not only the agility and independence of these weaker fingers but also refine your overall piano technique.
Wouldn't recommend learning the most difficult chopin etude as your first etude. That's probably harder than playing the whole ballade. You can try some chopin etudes that will definitely help you with the ballade, but take your time and don't try to go really fast. You are doing well!
you are very talented. however, its the little things you need to work on. there's no need to rush to advanced pieces, for example when you played fantaisie impromptu i couldn't help but notice that you were having troubles with the polyrhythms. my point is you should take it slow and use the potential that you have. you play very well.
It’s not really a desire to rush things, i just started piano just for fun and try to play some pieces i love even if i play it badly. But i agree it’s a really bad way to learn how to play, i thought it wasn’t for me or that was to late so i didn’t take it enough seriously
For Liebstraum No. 3: First candence: Try a quarter pedal and use some crescendo going up and decrescendo going down with full pedal. As you go down, use quarter pedal. section 2: try to outline the melody because your inner voices are a bit too loud. try to make it more fluid and for some parts you could do some rubato, and your left hand could use less power. section 3: instead of punching the octaves, try to roll into the octaves. the inner voice should be softer too. cadence 2: i would suggest playing it a bit softer. Overall, you are an AMAZING pianist and you've grown so much in two years! Try your best to be more musical and dynamic with the music and you're set
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I don't think I have never been this proud in my life for someone I don't even know.
Wow that’s a compliment thanks
My man achived more in 2 years than I did in 8😭congrats bro
Is fake
@@Exploson-eu6ibwdym by “is fake” loll😂😂😂
@@iwantahandle290 which didn't take 2 years. not even Beethoven could play liszt liebestraum from zero to 2 years old. you can't imagine the technique it takes, people usually spend five times as much, this is simply another one that gives false hopes and lies
You probably still play it way "better" with a better feel for the keys, more emotions and all that stuff and even if, it's fake anyway. No fucking way this guy made this much progress this quick completely honestly.
@@teenator579dude was already using both hands in like the first few months like it was nothing 😭😭
RUclips is like:
Day 1 - A, B, C...
Day 10 - Liszt - La Campanella
Theyre all bullshitters.
lol fr tho
Fr timeline is just so fake
@@l0pezvfx I don’t think so. Im self taught and i started with hard pieces too. If you practice for 2-3 hrs every day, you can achieve insane things in a month or two
@@Mc4KingTengo desde los 6 años tocando piano, dejé varios de estudiar pero tengo aproximadamente 3 años tocando seriamente varias horas al día y mi pieza más difícil es el Estudio op10 no no.4 y Op25 no.11
If you actually did this with no prior training with a teacher, GG.
bro even with a teacher this would be insane, too insane to be real tho this vid is totally fake
@@theotv3383 I think it’s real. I achieved similar results in 3 years and I didn’t practice every day. If you put in the work, a lot is possible tbh
@@tellobeansYou're coping. 2 years is a long time, if you think it's not possible at all you're delusional
Bro Really motivated me to progress my piano (i just startd
@@tellobeans dude i've been learning piano for nearly 2 years without any teacher and i can play fantasie impromptu
I've been self taught for 35 years, driven by that love and passion for music, and great to find your channel!!!! I too want to learn the Ballade, as a kid I loved the Military Polonaise the most out of Chopin's pieces, now it's the Ballade!!! Great to see your progress, you're doing brilliantly!!!!, and would love to follow each other's piano journeys!!! 🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🙂🙂🙂🤗🤗
Reaching Fantaisie Impromptu in less than 2 years? That's insane
Yeah no, not very realistic. Don't quote me on that though
are you sure about that? I personnaly learned it in like 5 months, i actually don't know anything about how much time these types of pieces should take to learn but i can guarantee you that this is possible
@@randomplaypiano5 months of practice or 5 months of piano playing? important distinction
@@randomplaypiano maybe to you and some others, yeah. But to me it is amazing progress from zero. Everyone have different sense on it.
@@ryandixon8202 you can see on my channel when I started piano and fantaisie, I tried my best recording something to see the improvements and i will be glad to see your or anyone opinions and advices about it
I love how you put Bink's Sake between all those classical pieces. Amazing progress!
Wow! A 2 year progress video featuring all the greats! Chopin, Liszt, Rachmaninoff and Queen!
🤝😎
And yohoho loving it
Your progress is genuinely amazing for that time, you really have a special talent! What you already achieved in 2 years took me so much longer for back then. Regarding your playing, in the last clips the problem with your tension looked much better. Really try to keep your hand and forearms loose. One thing you can try to relief tension and get the feel for it is to have your fingers come up from the keyboard and loosely touch your fingers 1 and 5, and then have all the fingers touch the keys but not press down on it.
For the quicker passages and runs, you could sometimes try to play more out of the finger instead of moving your wrists up and down too much. Usually it's better to try to keep your wrists steady while playing and generating force on the keyboard right from the shoulder towards your fingers (but you are doing this very well already, especially the jump to the Liebestraum showed a lot of progress).
You should seriously consider taking lessons, because you already have such a strong foundation and a big talent. If you want, with a good teacher that helps you work on these things more efficiently your progress will be even quicker and they will show you how to practice a piece to concert level, which usually involves very detailed technique.
But the most important thing; enjoy the practicing and don't take weird comments on here to seriously, have fun playing and delving into the world of this amazing music.
Thank you and i agree about getting a teacher I’m thinking about it. I agree also about playing for fun it’s the most important for me, however I didn’t practice exercices or specific pieces that could help me but I don’t really regret it
The motivation you have is incredible
I’m in uni and I would give u two pieces of advice. First is, take your time when singing the melodies. Remember that the peak of any instrument is imitating the voice as well as u can. Take ur time and do not rush, imagine your melodies being sang by an opera singer. The second advice is, always relax your shoulders and think something like metal springs in your fingers. Pushing the key has to be smooth and without any type of tension. That way it sounds nicer (in real pianos) and u avoid getting injured
I'm just starting piano! Im 16 years old and I'm probably gonna be self taught as well but not entirely new to music and theory as i play guitar and drums and take guitar lessons. But seeing this gives me hope on my skill in the future! Hope you continue to have a great time on piano and with music in general and good luck to whatever you do next!
Good luck, drums is so cool I wish I could play that also !
shige cat
You'd better not to be "self taught", and take teacher
this is actually so inspiring to watch, I used to be taught professionally but now I'm self taught and it's actually really nice to see someone do so well self taught. Thank you so much for the motivation you've just given me
Genuinely incredible progress for two years, you clearly love music so much to go at this pace, so just keep it up honestly (if you want to of course) :)
Thank you ! (I will)
this is genuinely so good for two years self taught, your motivation and passion and and is just so amazing. i think you're doing great! especially as someone who has been learning piano since i was a kid (still am a kid >.>), your progress is definitely amazing and beautiful. i would recommend just practicing solid technical requirements and such -> scales, chords, arpeggios as they really do help build up technique later on :D. and definitely remember to keep shoulders, arms relaxed. most importantly i think, is that you don't let your passion get extinguished by anyone else. teacher or no teacher, as long as your passion doesn't die out and you continue to love what you're doing, you'll be absolutely fine! :3 have fun on your piano journey!! ^-^
holy shit bro ur amazing
Wow thanks bro
I've been playing since 2020 and I can't even play 90% of your songs, you are amazing man congrats
If he played them not so messy, it would be so, but it's not
Excuse me???!!! WOW. I am completely lost for words right now! YOU ARE INCREDIBLE! This made me cry at 4am in the morning. I’ve never felt this proud before. You are insane! Great work, wow. I can’t even put it into words. I hope you reach all the goals you are setting for your Piano journey!
Wow thanks !
Man you're doing really good for 2 years!
I started learning the piano at age 5 and I'm 18 this year. I didn't play a lot of these songs until just a few years ago. You really inspire me 😁
❤🔥Keep it up!
Sounds really good for being self taught, I've been playing for 8 years and have been learning the Ballade No.1 for about a year and am only about 70% through it. Keep it up and you'll get there someday!
Thanks, good luck to you !
Haa I’ve tried it many times. I never seem to finish it…
The pain is caused by being far too stiff in the arms and wrists. The wrist joint must be FREE to move! Seat height is important.
I wish I had you as a student… so many ideas are coming into my mind to help you. Bless you! I was originally self taught and I understand what you are going through.
this reminds me of my friend who is learning violin for 2 years and he also has made insane progress, nice
I’m 14 and I’ve been self teaching myself with RUclips tutorials and copying peoples hand positions aswell for a bit but I stopped for a year and forgot everything and I started again a couple weeks ago and now I’m working on Claire de lune, so seeing this def is helping me not give up again , plus I have the same goal as you , to play Chopins ballade n.1 , plus a couple extras like the merry go round of life, and ALOT more. But hey you have gotten so dang far in that amount of time, congrats dude
Honestly im actually very proud and geniunely surprised at how much pieces you managed to achieve in 2 years!!
I also have the same goal as you (which is playing ballade no.1)
If you're still planning self learn and not taking lessons,, what I suggest is that you should buy an exercise book! I suggest you buy an exercise book called "The virtuoso pianist" by hanon. That makes your fingers practice fast dynamics, trills, long stretches of the hands, and octaves!! Therefore, you wont have a hard time completing and executing pieces like turkish march, fantasie impromptu, and much more harder pieces in the future!
One thing you should keep in mind is NEVER (and i mean never) ever try to compare yourself to other pianists, i dont know you much but in my experience in playing piano, comparing myself did a massive bruise to my confidence n motivation in playing😭 So focus on yourself and play to your heart's content!
Overall your playing is good, my feedback only is the stiffness of your fingers in some pieces you played, surely in the future, you'd be much better and warmed up. Wishing you the best in life!!
Thank you for these tips !
That first “no” was so relatable lol! I am also a self taught piano player, I play and improvise piano by ear only😊😌proud of you!
I wish I could play by ear that’s sick
Amazing progress for 2 years! Self-taught here as well :)) Here are some insights on liebestraum no. 3:
Technically correct notes, you play most of it well, just a bit of polishing would do. Also, try playing around with fluctuating dynamics and tempo. It enhances the depth and vibrance of the melody. Fluidity and control! Bringing out the emotions of the melody is the hardest, imo. To breath life into this piece is truly a dream of love, can't wait to hear you play this again! Good luck!
Ok thank you !
(advises below)
It's absolutely incredible to stumble upon this video as I pretty much got the exact same start, started self taught at 18 and now (6 years later) 75% of the way through learning the first ballade (just finished the valse/scherzo bit 9 months after starting learning the piece). I diverged a bit from your path as I stoped being self taught after 1 year, here are the pieces in order I played to get there (these can serve as "biteable" chunks to get to these kind of pieces).
Self taught
- Für Elise
- Turkish march
- Clair de Lune
- Chopin nocturne op 9 no 2
- Fantaisie Impromptu
- Chopin etude op 10 no 12
- moonlight sonata 3rd movement
(here got cut off at the beginning as I met my teacher who cut bad habbits of playing with flat hands, correct tension... , and learning how to actually read sheets to play with a "correct" interpretation (as written on the sheet))
- Schubert Impromptu 4
- Scales and arpegios and Chanon exercices... (mostly to correct slopy technique and fingers)
- bach prelude in c minor
- Rachmaninoff prelude in c sharp minor
- Schubert impromptu no 2
- Clair de Lune (again to correct bad interpretation)
- Chopin op 64 no 2
- Fantaisie impromptu (again to correct bad interpretation)
- Bethoven pathetic sonata (in the following order : 3, 2, 1)
- Chopin etude op 10 no 12 (gotta work on the left hand)
- Chopin etude op 25 no 1
- Liebestraum
- Chopin etude 25 no 12
- Moonlight sonata 3rd movement
- Chopin ballade no 1
As tips to save time and things I wished I knew from the very beginning, the most important thing when learning technique is to ELIMINATE TENSION ! This is also the best advice I can give for the 1st ballade, the A major section to the coda is incredibly physically demanding, so if you waste energy in tension, you won't be able to do the whole piece in one smooth run... I think this is what you are experiencing right now (cf 12:35 ), it's hard to explain how to fix this in a youtube comment but here is a try:
-For fast passages flatten a bit your fingers (this can be seen with scales, try for instance f sharp major, since you articulate less it's way smoother and can smoothly be played at 200+ bpm this way, or even the weird g minor melodic scale descend at the end of the first ballade...) , jumps over thumb tucks for arpegios.
-For chords, use the wrist and not the fore arm (especially octaves, look at the end of hungarian rhapsodie 6 for a concrete example of the proper technique), always try to play chords in a relaxed way, if you feel tension it's either that you have a small hand span (cheer up in that case), or you are rotating your wrist wrong (a good practise for that is the part you played starting from 15:00 to 15:50).
Then for technique, chopin etudes pretty much are the best exercises I know of, if you want to perfect a specific technique, play the corresponding etude (you don't have to play the whole piece if you are not a professionnal pianist, as long as you get the gist of it and genuinly understand how to properly play said technique, you can move on). Anyway, good luck on the adventure to conquer the first ballade, it's an arduous one, but the journey is worth it.
p.s. The coda's difficulty is overated, if you master the "eliminate tension" part, the right hand of the coda is the easiest thing ever, the true beast of this piece is the A major section (octave runs bar 119-124 are bs, bar 110-111 rounds are impossible to hold, bar 113 Right hand is nonsense).
Thanks for the advice !
Amazing progress!
Some tips are maybe if you aren't doing music theory you could learn some of the basics as it can help a lot with sight reading, improvising and just generally knowing the structure and patterns of the piece.
I'm not sure how you practise but just in case you don't practise arppegios, scales and sight reading(which I'm doubting you don't) you should definitely practise them.
Practise slowly, one hand at a time and good luck with the rest of your piano journey!
You're making great progress. I started when I was 19 and the first Ballade was the first piece I became completely obsessed with. I did manage to play it and I think you will too. Huge difference between the clips before your re-assessing due to wrist pain and after-your wrist positioning looks so much better. I can't help too much with the details but I can tell you that your goals should be to stay consistent in practicing, no matter how fast you feel like you're improving, and to work slowly while thinking about how to reduce tension-what are new ways you can move that make things a little bit easier? A lot of slow work where you play each note or chord and try to let all of the tension go before playing the next one can really help, too. Keep it up!
Your video is great! It's evident that you're still working on achieving crisp and clean sound in your pieces, but considering you've only been playing for two years, your progress is amazing. Personally, after two years, I wasn't able to play at that speed! 😄 I've been playing for about seven years now, and I'm currently working on the pieces you played after just two years. 🙈 I suggest focusing on making the fast passages cleaner; perhaps dedicating more time to practicing these specific bars would help. Especially in Chopin's Ballade, where there are numerous fast passages, playing them cleanly is crucial as it can sound muddy and less pleasing to the ear when not executed well.
Really good progress man, a lot of people might not believe you but i know it is possible from my proper experience. Keep doing this great and you Will play One day the ballade no1 !
Thanks bro I hope so !
good playing, but the room you play in is such a vibe
Memorization and repetition can get anyone pretty far. It's a lot of work, too. In the long run having a general understanding of music theory, fundamentals, and good habits is best. As you experienced, improper hand position can really damage your progress musically and physically. I highly urge anyone who is self-taught and still enjoying piano after 2 years to take the time to learn theory and fundamentals they may have missed. It's a worthwhile investment.
The determination we need! Gives my hope to self teach myself!
duuuude! i’ve been playing for 6 months, barely put any work into it, i feel…ashamed, but motivated. i need to get myself a piano
amazing progress! you've certainly have dedication to make so much progress in those two years and you should be proud of what you have already accomplished. One thing I have learned recently as someone that went through a similar path in learning the piano as yourself, is don't neglect your fundamentals. Disregard this if you are already, but practicing your scales, arpeggios, sight reading etc. is boring af but it helps so so much. I spent a few years just learning the piano by going through piece by piece, spending hours and days on a single piece until it was perfect. That is nice and okay, but there comes a time where it can really weigh down on you especially if you want to tackle pieces like the Ballade . If you have those fundamentals down though, you could sight read 90 percent of a song and polish the rest within a week. it can be just 15 mins a day, and you'll see noticeable improvement over time. especially when you don't have time to put hours and hours into a single piece, instead you could put that little bit of time everyday that will improve your learning speed for every single piece you decide to learn.
In 2 years I already learned torrent and if you want I record video
But You are the true goat🐐🐐🐐🐐
I think i would never be able to play this piece gg bro
That was really cool to watch and being part of this Congrats keep going on
It took me 10 years to do the Rach op. 23 no. 5. Your progress is amazing!
Thanks !
how can u believe it's real?
@@fabiore1672i know right like I’m just trying to find the first person to comment how absurd this is 💀💀. Learning the Rach prelude itself takes about at least months of practice as someone who has experience.
@@diegodelgado4359 Yea I think this video might be fake
@@diegodelgado4359 also the fact that for most of these pieces he just cuts the video before the hardest parts like in rondo alla turca for example but still i dont think that it's fake because sometimes by his hands or overall the rythm you can see that he clearly dosn't know what he is soing sometimes however it's still a good progress for a selfthought pianist
Turkish March❤
It's nice to see you upload a new video :)
Thank you !
I'm going on my second year too and I'm learning chopin's ballad, I'm exited to see your progress,
good luck
I love the fact that you started to learn to read sheet music, as many of these videos and of people I know only play by ear or from watching videos, but they can't play the really complex peieces, great job
Nice! I recently finished Liebestraum after almost 10 years of on/off playing, impressive progress!
wow thats really impressive!! congratulations for your progress and keep going ❤
sheeesh! this is amazing! truly!
Thank you !
You're amazing... I can't believe self-learning can achieve this level! You're motivating me!
I loved how you played especially bink's no sake, requiem for a dream and waltz in c minor
I have started to play marriage de amour first and second movement on 4th month of learning piano, but then started getting back pains and stopped playing piano, and here i am 8 month later, still playing just those 2 movements 😢...
Wow what an impressive progression. I started my piano journey in Sep 23. Your video is motivating me. 😊
Good job man, I'm also on my self teaching journey currently at less than a year. You definitely seemed to have put crazy hours in man
Yeah for sure but the most important is to play every day, good luck to you for your journey
Ballade no. 1 is my aimed piece as well ! Loved it from the movie - The Pianist. Certainly encouraged by your effort ! ❤
I was originally going to comment that my only critique would be to watch your hand position (e.g. fingers sticking up that aren't playing) but by the end you had even fixed that so bravo. This is incredible to watch.
I don’t I totally fixed it but I’m working on it yes
If you find a teacher, it would mean a lot for your playing. If not its ok because you are already doing good.
It's looking great, your progress is excellent, quite faster than mine, I've been play one year and I'm currently learning Nocturne no20 in C sharp minor
Thanks, good choice it’s a great piece
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 Thanks, although it's kind of hard to control the voices and to keep the polyrhythm sounding good
This is so inspiring!!made me want to pick up piano again…
Great effort! I also used to hurt my wrists a lot while having long practice sessions. A thing that helped me a ton was static-dynamic stretching of my wrists. You literally just flick them around for a minute, do a wave motion by interlocking your fingers and moving your arms, and nudge in all directions to cover the full range of motion.
2 years of absolute dedication! This is my fifth year learning the piano and i finally finished Ballade 1! I bet you can do it on your 3rd year because i was slacking off on my third and fourth year xd
I’m going to wait a bit longer I think 😂
not me and my ten years of piano experience watching this and crying internally
i play piano for 8 years and i still can't played Fantasie Impromptu but this dude did it in like a few months
I don't understand how you improved so fast, very impressive.
One recommendation/advice i have for you is to stretch your hands before and after piano practice.
I had to go through a lot of surgeries because i did not do that. (That was of course not the only reason but stretching would have prevented a lot of the pain)
I ignored the pain in my wrists for several years. There was an infection slowly building up in my wrists that affected the bones and muscles. It did not only affect the piano practice but also my ability to write and at some point grab things.
I had to go through 4 surgeries on my right and 2 on my left hand/wrist.
I can now play the piano again but i had to take a break for about 2.5 years until i was able to start again for a few hours a month. I am currently able to play for approximately 5 hours a week.
All of this started in 2013, i had my first surgery in 2017 my last one in 2019. in 2022 i was able to start playing „consistently“ again.
I don’t wish this to anyone who loves to play their instrument(s) as much as i did/do.
I don’t want to scare you with this comment i just want to tell you what can possibly happen if you don’t take your pain seriously. If you have the opportunity to see a doctor (if the pain is getting stronger or isn’t going away) then don’t be afraid to take it. It’s better to be sure about your own comfort than ending up with the same problem i had.
So PLEASE take this advice from me, because I don’t want someone else to go through that too!
Edit: i am sorry if there are any mistakes, English is not my first language!
Sorry to hear that man… Don’t worry I pay a lot more attention to my wrists now but I will include stretch in my practice sounds like a good idea
so inspiring and so realistic, god bless you and i hope you reach your goal!! seeing this made me want to get a new piano and start my own journey
goodluck again
1 year and you're able to play Fantaisie Impromptu, I'm incredibly proud of you
man ive been playing for 7 years and tbh youre almost as good as me, if you keep practicing youre gonna be actually amazing!! good luck with your practice!!
Thanks !
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 of course! can’t wait to see your progress!
No words can describe how much I'm proud....you really give us all a lesson to follow our dreams I have also a lot of pieces that I want to play someday and you inspired me to keep practicing I will be supporting you till you reach what do you want
Hope all the best for you and keep going ✨️ambitious✨️
Thank you for the motivation 😃
Thanks 🙏
Ur actually amazing!!! I’d say that for the Liebestraum, focus on bringing the voicing out more and keeping everything else down. Also practice the second cadenza slow and break it into groupings and then connect the groupings after they’re even. Keep up the good work 💪
I set the same goal, and have also been playing two years. You're miles better than I am though, excellent progression, I love to see how far you've come through this video. You progressed a hell of a lot faster than I did. Except my goal changes a lot, right now it's Mephisto Waltz (No .1, Liszt), but it was Prelude in G minor, or Moonlight Sonata, or La Campanella. Overall great progress, you can hit Ballade no 1, you got this!
This is truly amazing! Well done!!!! I would say for advice - rhythm is a big one. I can hear that the synchronisation of your hands is just a bit out some of the time, but you’re still doing very very well especially for only 2 years
Yes I know I have to work on rythm but it seems very difficult I struggle a lot
I practice for 4 years and I'm far away from chopins waltz in c# minor😂.
Great progress bro!!!! Definitely
Thanks bro
actual unit right here folks 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
keep on that grind king 👑
I started learning piano by myself with some help from my dad and his friend like 4 months ago, and I think I made pretty good progress, my goal is to learn Beethoven Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement one day, so wish me luck, and congratulations my man, keep going and good luck with your goal!
thats so amazing ngl!
i've been self taught my self for 2 years too and i can only play turkish march instead of every music that you can play just in 2 years 😂
OMG you are really great, I look forward to ur new videos 😲
Hehe t'es chaud beau gosse, hâte de voir le progrès :)
Merci gars
Alors ces progrès en deux ans, c'est vraiment formidable ! Pour ma part, je viens de terminer le troisième Liebestraum de Loszt avec ma professeure au Conservatoire, et comme vous le demandiez, voici quelques conseils pour cette partie centrale que vous avez vraiment bien joué :
- essayez, pour la première cadence, de travailler très lentement d'abord, et en fixant les doigtés de la main gauche. La main droite est difficile certes, mais pour moi la principale difficulté a été d'y adjoindre la main gauche de façon synchronisée. Et avec le travail, c'est passé !
- pour la première portion du ''più animato, con passione'', allez-y peut-être un peu moins vite, et faites bien ressortir la voix supérieure. N'accélerez qu'à partir du ''sempre stringendo'' en y allant petit à petit. Travaillez la main gauche séparément.
- au moment des sauts d'octave, considérez l'accord arpégé à l'intérieur comme un élan pour l'octave et jouez en conservant le rythme. N'hésitez pas à effectuer un petit retard à chasue début de section pour mieux prendre votre élan.
- ensuite, vers la fin de cette partie est noté ''affrettando'', ce qui signifie que vous devez accélérer et augmenter le volume.
- pour la deuxième cadence, allez-y doucement. En théorie, elle doit commencer au tempo où vous vous êtes arrêté à la mesure 58 puis accélérer en effectuant un decrescendo. Mais ça n'est à faire que lorsque tout est parfait, travaillez d'abord mains séparées, puis enemble à faible tempo, puis enfin au tempo et vous serez au point !
Ces conseils ne sont que des idées, ne vous y fiez pas forcément comme parole d'évangile, enfin c'est cela qui m'a aidé à mener à bien ce magnifique morceau que vous avez été si rapidement amené à interpréter, je suis impressionné ! J'ai hâte d'entendre la suite ! 🙌
Merci beaucoup, beaucoup de points à travailler encore mdr
I think you played very well! I started learning the piano in 2020 simply because I was bored, and guess what I also started with Turkish march. I discovered I had some talent for piano and particularly liked classical music,Fast forward 4 years now I’ve been taking piano lessons for 3 years now and I like to learn the pieces by heart, not through notes. Although I am able to read notes I still prefer just learning it by heart. Now I wouldn’t have known my love for the piano if I didn’t have that keyboard, RUclips and boredom around…
This video gives me a lot of motivation to try learn fantasie impromptu as a self taught pianist myself
The best advice I can give you is to practice separate movement in each hand in terms of rhythms. The piece isn’t particularly fast, it just seems that way because of the uneven note division. Hence, try techniques like 2:3 rhythm movement or 4:3 and try to switch hands as you go. If you don’t know what this means, it’s basically the amount of beats in each hand you play, before a duration of time loops for another round. If ur time is set to 6 seconds eg. You would play (for 3:2) 1 beat every 2 sec. in your left hand and 1 beat every 3 sec. in your right hand. This way you start each interval with a beat in each hand and separate during the interval, starting the next on the same beat again.
Hope this helps ;)
WTF bro, im learning piano in schools for 7 years. I'm really, really impress of how fast you improve your piano skills !!! Never stop !!!
Thanks !
Bro well done, I've played piano for 5 ish years now and have one piece of advice. Keep your wrists up for more controle. You are doing incredible!!!!!
FANTAISE IMPROMPTU IN 1 YEAR IS INSANE YOU'RE LITERALLY AMAZING WHAT
its hard to find someone who tries hard enough by themselves these days. good jobb. its like you are going to reach a diploma level within the next couple months if you you keep going at this rate. have funnn~ Also, be more confident in yourself when you play; add greater emotionns into your wrist. match the original emotion
I think with some people don’t take into consideration is that when you see people on RUclips with these kind of results, they spend hours practicing songs. If they are just practicing songs and not working necessarily on reading and technique, they have cut the amount of time in half. It would take to learn these pieces. This is very realistic progress. People get so upset when they see another person playing great songs. You feel like it invalidates all of your hard work and practice. His goal is to play songs. That is exactly what he is doing. Your goal may be different and you practice different things to achieve those goals. Stop hating and be happy for this guy. Or you could just mind your business.
Yes that’s a really interesting point, I spent my time playing pieces without understand anything about musical theory, I forced myself to read sheet music a little but at the end i just memorized all the pieces cause I played them for hours and hours. Now i’m learning music theory (slowly) and try to improve my reading skills
I'm a 14 years old boy, who has passion in music, thought I have a teacher but I really want to learn pieces in your video as well as being able to teach myself. Your skills remarkably developed throughtout the years, keep up with the great work. Hope someday I can play Fantasie Impromptu
Just learned Ballade 1 after 5 years, it looks like you might be able to do it quicker than that!! Keep up the great work stranger. I also highly recommend learning some baroque and classical repertoire that will force clarity and evenness in the playing, it really helps to have a well rounded repertoire
Ok thanks you’re not the only one to advise me this, if you have some pieces to recommend don’t hesitate
C'est une bonne idée, essayez peut-être le prélude en Do mineur BWV 847 de Bach, il donne un peu de fil à retordre, mais c'est une bonne école !
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 This is something I am currently struggling with. The Chopin 4 ballades + Scriabin Sonata 2 is my dream recital and I’ll stop at nothing to get there, it will take a long time, so I totally understand that drive you have to be able to play Ballade 1.
Within the 5 years I should qualify: I’ve been playing very seriously and practicing an hour or more a day for five years. I did play for a couple as a child but didn’t care, eventually came back as a teen and tried to rush into advanced repertoire really quickly. I only now feel like I can actually handle stuff that’s advanced, even so there’s a lot of gaps in my technique cause I rushed it too much.
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 Continued…
You must, I plead with you, learn a couple Bach inventions. (1, 4 and 8 are fantastic) If you’re anything like me, they are TORTURE and extremely hard to play evenly and nicely but they have given me so much more control over the keyboard and independence in my hands. If you find these aren’t too hard, you could try some sinfonias or Prelude and Fugue in C minor from Book 1 WTC.
For classical repertoire, try some movements from a few easier sonatas first. Such as Beethoven Op 49 1 and 2, or Mozart K 545. These are NOT as easy as you think but they are absolutely manageable. Once these feel great, after a couple months you can tackle a real sonata. I recommend Mozart K 332 (which i am currently learning) or Beethoven Op 13, “Pathetique”. These will teach you a lot
I’m gonna post a part 3 give me just a moment
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 Finally, you MUST play other pieces by Chopin before you tackle the ballade, one of his most complex compositions. It’s great that you’re playing waltzes and the fantaisie impromptu. These are great, they will teach you fast finger movements, playing runs evenly with correct fingerings, polyrhythms, and waltzes will help with jumps, which appear frequently.
I recommend also learning a couple nocturnes, poloniases, and/or etudes before diving into the ballade.
The nocturnes will help you understand how to play expressively, learn how to play hands independently with flow, and large arpeggiated figures in the left hand that require you to understand proper arm and wrist movement and have a flexible hand that can stretch without tension. I recommend op 9 no 1, op 9 no 2, and op 55 no 1, all of which I played before the ballade.
For polonaises, the op 40 pair is perfect. I also played both before learning the ballade. These will teach you the physically demanding aspects of the ballade, especially the octaves and massive chords as will as big jumps in both hands. Op 40 no 1 is all chords, but no 2 has some finger twisting sections in the middle that are amazing preparatory music for the ballade.
You could learn some etudes, op 10 no 3, no 12; etc. I did not learn any before and I was fine. The only uniquely difficult techniques you have to learn appear in the coda, which is a monster and incredibly awkward to play. This I still am trying to polish it usually sounds messy in my renditions of the ballade. It’s a matter of luck and I’m working on getting better at it, but it’s the hardest section of music I’ve ever learned.
I also started self teaching my self at 10 years old and now I’m about to turn 14 hopefully I achieve as much as you did 🎉
bro keep up your work! your improvement is pretty good, i also want to start learning piano next year, your video really gave me hope!
Good decision
If this is real, this is great progress for 2 years!! I'd say a little of your playing sounds like there's some tension so try staying loose and maybe not keep the fingers so flat in some places! Remember tension comes from un proper usage of your muscle or over exertion so remember breaks are okay too. Some things just need a little more fluidity to so if you could find a teacher I think it would really help! But anyways really great job!!! This is amazinggg!
omg, awesome bro, i've been playing piano for 2 years as well in a music school and now im playing river flows in you:)
This is impressive progress! I have subscribed! I'm also learning piano btw
finnaly someone who didn't take 2 years to learn fur elise, great job dude! im heading the same direction rn (17 and just picked up lessons) and during past month learned turkish, fur elise (not perfect), some anime ops and my goal by next year is unravel (cover by animenz)
We are almost the same person 😂 I've been playing for about 2 years, my first piece was Rondo Alla Turca and we share waltz b150, rach op23 no5, waltz op64 no2 in our repertory (beyond the fact I'm learning/practicing Fantaisie-Impromptu and learning french). I'd love to play Ballade No. 1 well also 😅 I learned the ballade as my fourth piece after playing for only 6 months (yeah 👍 👍 I know, it was probably just one of the dumbest things I've ever done lol, I did it because I felt in love with it and couldn't wait for learning). What I'm trying to point is that our progress is EXTREMELY equal, and I've never seen anyone so close to me on it... 🥴😃
Edit: now I realized you also use a digital piano, live in a house surrounded by green area and is self taught as well... Bro, we are literally the same person
Wtf ur officially my bro now. I understand for the ballade, personally I'm waiting to be sure to play it correctly but I get it, good luck for Fantaisie Impromptu !
Good luck for learning French too, it’s not an easy language (even if I’m French…)
@@RoadToChopinBalladeno1 Thanks for the words! I hope you get Ballade perfectly and play it as passionately as possible, it's one of the most, or the most, beautiful piece we all have listened to. Good luck with it! 😁🤞
My native language is Portuguese (Brazilian one), therefore as a romantic + latin language speaker I had the luck of not having all the common troubles when learning French (only some of them) 😀
Gender of nouns is usually the same; verbs, numbers and grammar (conjugaison, passé, présent et futur par exemple) are very similar; and expressions for some reason are the same (aller à pied, faire les courses, coûter les yeux de la tête, etc).
Anyway, thanks again for the support and for cheering me up! 😁 I've subscribed to your channel and will be here seeing your progress, since you also inspired me to upload progress videos like you. Don't give up! 🙃
@@GramkowPiano I subscribed to your channel too, hope you’ll post videos I would be glad to see it
Fantaisie impromptu in 1 yrs omg i have nothing else to say that's insane!
6 months into teaching myself. I’m 16 and still cannot play at greatly as I’m aiming for, but I’m playing! My goal for this is to try to get the full song of liebestraum mastered, no matter how long. Great video, the progress you’ve made is phenomenal! Keep it up!!
You're learning faster than the most.
It’s extremely impressive that you could self-learn such high levels of piano pieces in 2 years!! I’m sure that you have a lot of potential for piano playing.
A bit of advice here:
I’m not sure if you practise like this sometimes, but more than trying to sing the melody without haste, sometimes taking a step back could be beneficial.
Take off the pedal, and play the passage a bit slowly. Maybe some details were missed, maybe the dynamics or layers were inappropriate. You could find out so much that might need to be worked on, especially dynamics and clarity, once you take the pedal off. Doing that could definitely improve your playing a lot! Also, relaxing while playing is important. Tensing up too much when playing will definitely affect the dynamics and how the sounds are produced. But keep it up! You’re doing very well as a self-taught piano player with 2 years of experience!
(Sometimes playing easier pieces brings nostalgia, as a piano player who was taught by a teacher from scratch. Maybe you could put these amazing pieces aside for a bit and have some fun too :) )
Thanks for these advices
It seems like your fourth and fifth fingers might be a little weaker compared to the rest, which is perfectly normal. However, investing some practice time to strengthen these fingers can make a big difference in your piano playing. You might find Chopin's "Chromatic Étude" (Étude Op. 10, No. 2) to be a beneficial piece for strengthening your weaker fingers. This étude is specifically crafted to challenge and improve the coordination and strength of the fourth and fifth fingers. Its rapid chromatic passages traverse various octaves, demanding precise control and dexterity from all fingers, including the often less robust fourth and fifth. By dedicating practice time to this piece, you can enhance not only the agility and independence of these weaker fingers but also refine your overall piano technique.
Thanks a lot for your advicet these are great recommendations , indeed my fifth and fourth (especially this one) give me a lot of trouble
Oh l'Op.10 no.2 !? C'est tout de même très dur 😭 Vas-tu doucement quand même !
@@Scherzo-j5y Oui il m’a carrément surestimé je ne vais pas y toucher tout de suite mdr
Wouldn't recommend learning the most difficult chopin etude as your first etude. That's probably harder than playing the whole ballade. You can try some chopin etudes that will definitely help you with the ballade, but take your time and don't try to go really fast. You are doing well!
Impressive, good work ☑️
I want to play bink's sake too. anytime I hear it, it makes me feel so happy.
you are very talented. however, its the little things you need to work on. there's no need to rush to advanced pieces, for example when you played fantaisie impromptu i couldn't help but notice that you were having troubles with the polyrhythms. my point is you should take it slow and use the potential that you have. you play very well.
It’s not really a desire to rush things, i just started piano just for fun and try to play some pieces i love even if i play it badly.
But i agree it’s a really bad way to learn how to play, i thought it wasn’t for me or that was to late so i didn’t take it enough seriously
This is genuinely so impressing bro! You need to make a video on how you taught yourself.
I don’t know if it’s a good idea, I think my way of learning is one of the worst to properly learn piano (but one of the funniest)
For Liebstraum No. 3:
First candence: Try a quarter pedal and use some crescendo going up and decrescendo going down with full pedal. As you go down, use quarter pedal.
section 2: try to outline the melody because your inner voices are a bit too loud. try to make it more fluid and for some parts you could do some rubato, and your left hand could use less power.
section 3: instead of punching the octaves, try to roll into the octaves. the inner voice should be softer too.
cadence 2: i would suggest playing it a bit softer.
Overall, you are an AMAZING pianist and you've grown so much in two years! Try your best to be more musical and dynamic with the music and you're set