Seriously can't thank you enough for this video. Everyone has a 2jz or gte video but this? This is great info. Especially for the poopra owners with the na 7m
Love all the great knowledge. I ended up swapping a gte block into my n/a. So i have a spare n/a sitting in the garage. This video has me tempted to grab another shell and turbo the GE
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft i agree! I've actually had the NA sitting around for 10 years ever since i swapped in the GTE. Just haven't had the heart to scrap it or sell it.
haha I know the feeling. I have one sitting around too. If this channel ever makes money we will use it to buy and build an mk3 and document the entire thing. All the a70 tips, tricks and hands on how too
Picked up a non running 88 supra shell with a rebuilt 7mge ready to go in with OE CT26 and R154 swap, just need to button up motor and trans and drop her in! My first project, pretty intimidating to be honest haha.
Great video Dana i have a 7MGE Im rebuilding didn’t have guys to go T😚 i would also say i had head cryogenically treated it had gone soft my Brinell Hardness number went from 68 to 105 + ARP studs and a smidge more torque from 78 ft pound to 85ish
You bet, rods are exactly the same, wrist pins and crank as well. Pistons and lack of oil squirters and oil drain and feed are the only real changes to the GTE bottom end from the GE. Woo 7m's
@@rens2998 Yep you can get away with GE electronics for as long as you don't ask a lot of boost out of your car. Honesty for the short time it takes to source a GTE harness/ecu and electronics I would almost just say swap all the electronics to GTE stuff in the beginning but its not required to go turbo. Lots of creseda guys out there na-t on stock everything.
@@rens2998 What he means is that the effort required to get just the harness and ecu is not worth it and you might as well convert it to all the GTE electronics as its easier to source all the electronics then it is to source just those two parts
You could use the stock Na harness and ECU. I would recommend in that case some sort of an air/fuel controller. You would have to keep the distributer as a means of ignition as well in the na electronics as well.
So you can get away with a rising rate on stock pressure? I planned on using the factory elbow to choke it up a little so it isn’t spiking to 10psi lol. I’ve been wanting to do this on my Cressida a while now. And I’ve pretty much got everything from owning my my mk3 Supra for years. No turbo electronics though
rising rate reg on stock fuel pressure for sure. Going na-t and covering the basics isnt terribly stressful on the 7m its really a no fuss set up to get it up and running 6/7 to about 10/11 psi that the stock ct will put out before turning into a hair dryer
Have watched this probably 20-30 times over the past 2 years, my turbo e36 in down for the count awaiting bore/stroke and missing turbo noises. Have a 7m Cressida that’s missiled out, cage, w58, xcessive steering etc. planning on just gte manifold, ct26 with internal wastegate, fmu.For ecu management and blow through maf would it break up under 5psi? I don’t care about extra power at all it drifts just fine at stock power w/ 40psi 235’s. Know this sounds absolutely pointless but I can get all the parts for less than $350 for a good laugh on track. Have looked through forums but can’t find a solid write up
Yes sir you could have a builder drill and tap the stock spot or T into the stock oil pressure senders location as an easier approach. Very common to do that as well
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft thats nice to know, what would you recommend doing? Any downsides to either approach? And would you happen to know how much it would cost roughly to have the machinist drill the block for the feed? Thanks!
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft Couldn't you use the oil galley plug hole? I have a small screw in the same galley as the sender mid-way through the block. No idea why it's there.
Dude this was sooo helpful: thank you for making this . The only thing I’m confused about is if I use the 7mge ecu ? Or if I need a gte ecu . How does that even work ?
Leaving out the electronics, the NA Block is lacking a factory turbo drain and oil feed as well oil squirters to cool the bottom of the pistons. NA has a slightly more aggressive intake cam, different intake manifold and pistons in the NA are a higher compression. The rest mechanically is the same
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft hey bro! thanks for the response! so i change my plans to go without electronics. can you tell me if this is fine for 8psi boost-->> 12:1 fmu, Innovate Motorsports (3882 SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller and Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge Kit), 7mgte turbo w/log mani, tapped oil pan w/ oil pump shim and line mod , maybe air to water intercooler, 12v fuel pump mod w/stock fuel pump and injectors. really, i got those overkill parts cause they were good on price at the time fyi. one more question, i believe you answered this but just to reassure, it doesn't matter if i get too strong of a fuel pump like a 525lph on 450 injectors as long as i have a fpr and adjusted accordingly, right?
@@dolanwae2718 yeah thats just fine for most depending on your timing. I would like to see 11-11.5 AFR's wot tho on stock pistons just to keep it safer that safe. Just my opinion
hey man do you have a instagram i could contact you more directly on i was just wondering how i can clean up all the hoses and wiring to make it look as clean as your engine bay does as well as the rocker covers that you have
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft For sure bro I want radical lift & duration on a naturally aspirated 7mge with a custom short ram intake (filter & afm mounted as close to the throttle body as possible). To give more big end performance. One day I'll do this but it won't be until I'm much older. Probably go for a 89-92 Supra or 92 specifically because they are a little safer.
Seriously can't thank you enough for this video. Everyone has a 2jz or gte video but this? This is great info. Especially for the poopra owners with the na 7m
7M is the way haha
Love all the great knowledge. I ended up swapping a gte block into my n/a. So i have a spare n/a sitting in the garage. This video has me tempted to grab another shell and turbo the GE
Save all the 7Ms haha. Its simple enough to go na-t. If you have the means to buy another chassis then it may just be fun to do it haha
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft i agree! I've actually had the NA sitting around for 10 years ever since i swapped in the GTE. Just haven't had the heart to scrap it or sell it.
haha I know the feeling. I have one sitting around too. If this channel ever makes money we will use it to buy and build an mk3 and document the entire thing. All the a70 tips, tricks and hands on how too
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft that would be awesome! So far you have some really great detailed content.
So useful, just got your 1000th sub. Amazing vid thank you so much.
Thanks dood, I do appreciate it
Picked up a non running 88 supra shell with a rebuilt 7mge ready to go in with OE CT26 and R154 swap, just need to button up motor and trans and drop her in! My first project, pretty intimidating to be honest haha.
I can relate, I have been there. Youll get through it then youll be looking for more to fix or modify haha its all down hill from here hahaha
Great video Dana i have a 7MGE Im rebuilding didn’t have guys to go T😚 i would also say i had head cryogenically treated it had gone soft my Brinell Hardness number went from 68 to 105 + ARP studs and a smidge more torque from 78 ft pound to 85ish
Sounds like you have a good handle on things
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft yeah learned the very hard way🙄
The parts are interchangeable, GTE pistons and rods can work on the ge
You bet, rods are exactly the same, wrist pins and crank as well. Pistons and lack of oil squirters and oil drain and feed are the only real changes to the GTE bottom end from the GE. Woo 7m's
Interesting! I wasn't aware that I could reuse the GE throttle body and ignition stuff
Would you use the GE wiring harness and ECU?
@@rens2998 Yep you can get away with GE electronics for as long as you don't ask a lot of boost out of your car. Honesty for the short time it takes to source a GTE harness/ecu and electronics I would almost just say swap all the electronics to GTE stuff in the beginning but its not required to go turbo. Lots of creseda guys out there na-t on stock everything.
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft I don't get your sentence. You say, for the time it takes to get GTE stuff you could get GTE stuff. 2 times the same
@@rens2998 What he means is that the effort required to get just the harness and ecu is not worth it and you might as well convert it to all the GTE electronics as its easier to source all the electronics then it is to source just those two parts
@@agentmsb6293 ahh I see
Hey mate, awesome video. Info much appreciated.
One thing I missed was how you're monitoring/modifying your air fuel ratios?
I have a wide band that is values show on the motec dash
99% Of the time guys are using innovative or aem widebands that are just as accurate
Oh fuck yea
Are you putting the GE AFM before or after the turbo? I’m not sure if it’s suppose to be a blow through?
honestly ive seen it both ways. Its not the most reliable, I would prefer to change to a gte harness and ecu. will make upgrading later on much easier
Thanks for the info!
What I can do for ECU? Here in Europe is hard (and expensive) to find GTE ECU+harness
You could use the stock Na harness and ECU. I would recommend in that case some sort of an air/fuel controller. You would have to keep the distributer as a means of ignition as well in the na electronics as well.
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft Thank you very much!!!
So you can get away with a rising rate on stock pressure? I planned on using the factory elbow to choke it up a little so it isn’t spiking to 10psi lol. I’ve been wanting to do this on my Cressida a while now. And I’ve pretty much got everything from owning my my mk3 Supra for years. No turbo electronics though
rising rate reg on stock fuel pressure for sure. Going na-t and covering the basics isnt terribly stressful on the 7m its really a no fuss set up to get it up and running 6/7 to about 10/11 psi that the stock ct will put out before turning into a hair dryer
Have watched this probably 20-30 times over the past 2 years, my turbo e36 in down for the count awaiting bore/stroke and missing turbo noises. Have a 7m Cressida that’s missiled out, cage, w58, xcessive steering etc. planning on just gte manifold, ct26 with internal wastegate, fmu.For ecu management and blow through maf would it break up under 5psi? I don’t care about extra power at all it drifts just fine at stock power w/ 40psi 235’s. Know this sounds absolutely pointless but I can get all the parts for less than $350 for a good laugh on track. Have looked through forums but can’t find a solid write up
tuning is hard with the maf, lots of good write ups on similar issues on supra mania of course in the mk2 sec
I got a spare ge block sitting that was considering doing a buult bottom end lol. For the oil feed, isnt it possible to just drill and tap it?
Yes sir you could have a builder drill and tap the stock spot or T into the stock oil pressure senders location as an easier approach. Very common to do that as well
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft thats nice to know, what would you recommend doing? Any downsides to either approach? And would you happen to know how much it would cost roughly to have the machinist drill the block for the feed? Thanks!
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft Couldn't you use the oil galley plug hole? I have a small screw in the same galley as the sender mid-way through the block. No idea why it's there.
Dude this was sooo helpful: thank you for making this . The only thing I’m confused about is if I use the 7mge ecu ? Or if I need a gte ecu . How does that even work ?
If you make the call to use GTE electronics then a GTE ecu is needed if you use GE electronics (distributer and afm) GE ecu is fine
I have a GTE, was mostly curious with the difference between the turbo and the NA
Leaving out the electronics, the NA Block is lacking a factory turbo drain and oil feed as well oil squirters to cool the bottom of the pistons. NA has a slightly more aggressive intake cam, different intake manifold and pistons in the NA are a higher compression. The rest mechanically is the same
hey man, what electronics i need to complete going 7mgte?
engine harness and ecu, coil pack, igniter, plug wires, cam pos sensor
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft hey bro! thanks for the response! so i change my plans to go without electronics. can you tell me if this is fine for 8psi boost-->> 12:1 fmu, Innovate Motorsports (3882 SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller and Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge Kit), 7mgte turbo w/log mani, tapped oil pan w/ oil pump shim and line mod , maybe air to water intercooler, 12v fuel pump mod w/stock fuel pump and injectors. really, i got those overkill parts cause they were good on price at the time fyi. one more question, i believe you answered this but just to reassure, it doesn't matter if i get too strong of a fuel pump like a 525lph on 450 injectors as long as i have a fpr and adjusted accordingly, right?
@@dolanwae2718 yeah thats just fine for most depending on your timing. I would like to see 11-11.5 AFR's wot tho on stock pistons just to keep it safer that safe. Just my opinion
Is an oil cooler necessary?
Not 100% at moderate power levels. Its always a good idea but not required. Using good oil however is a requirement
I got questions can I run my stock ecu safely?
Sure, there are piggy backs you can buy cheap to help manage fuel mods to a point
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft what I mean is can I just run stock ge ecu no piggyback but just increase the fueling without blowing up my engine?
@@a70_s36 With an adjustable fuel pressure reg and injectors, manually reduce ignition timing yes
hey man do you have a instagram i could contact you more directly on i was just wondering how i can clean up all the hoses and wiring to make it look as clean as your engine bay does as well as the rocker covers that you have
You bet its just my name in one word DanaAnthonyHoeft
Are arp con rod bolts recommended?
Not needed below 700
Are these engines capable of 700+ hp? Or start researching 1jz/2jz?
100% capable of 1000+ reliable hp
I'd like to custom cast some brand new camshafts for a 7m-ge and make 240whp with a carbon fiber driveshaft.
Doable 100% carbon drive shaft is cool and custom cams for sure is cool to just say they are custom
@@DanaAnthonyHoeft For sure bro I want radical lift & duration on a naturally aspirated 7mge with a custom short ram intake (filter & afm mounted as close to the throttle body as possible). To give more big end performance. One day I'll do this but it won't be until I'm much older. Probably go for a 89-92 Supra or 92 specifically because they are a little safer.