Definitive Iso-8 Beginner Guide- Best Classes, Teams, Deals and more with Remanx
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Here is the definitive Beginner Guide to Iso-8. I am joined by Remanx and we discuss the best character classes, the best teams to use Iso-8, we break down the deals and much more.
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Chaaaaahoooo 🤙🏽🤙🏽 two of the best in our community! Truly amazing colab! Keep it up brah!
I needed this, brotha! Thank you for the break down 👍🏾💚
I Needed This! Thank You!
As a relatively new player (in my 50s), fortifier is amazing. It’s like a 25-35% HP increase that refreshes in raids. I can see that it would drop off, but early on that flat health in huge.
Very very helpful, thanks guys!
Thank you guys Helped me a lot I'm a new player and just unlock the ISO8 Thank you thank you
Awesome video valley like always keep it up
Oh yeah! RemanX and Valley together!
Thank you for the video, very helpful and enjoyed the content.
I have found that putting Fortifier on Dr. Strange has really helped my Supernatural team.
Oh for sure, he's always been my weak link on that team. In the sense that if he dies 1st, the team is done.
Yup and rescue with fortified is great too and I'm assuming Domino is great too
I'd have liked a class that adds taunt, Deadpool would have been amazing with that.
Great job! Smash it!
Yo brother, this was very helpful...I actually like this feature lol
I'm really liking the system so far. Had Striker on Black Bolt and the bonus Iso attack was enough to get an enemy to red and kill him. Saved my butt on that node. So glad they didn't make it like mods/runes
Amazing work! Thanks Remanx! Any chance you can put the Iso-8 column (M) right beside the character column (A)? That would be a huge help when looking at the spreadsheet on iPhone, etc.
Crystal is a legendary raider. Her first turn special almost guarantees 2/3 vulnerables in arena. One time she applied 2-3 vulnerables on EACH enemy! Then black bolt with striker cleaned them up with a 3 hit special.
Thank you for adding where you get your shirts.
Literally too early for "Definitive" but I appreciate the video 😂
I noticed that about wakandans. What i did was
Shuri: healer (might switch to raider because her basic is aoe)
Killmonger: raider (obviously)
Mbaku: raider (his ult is aoe and can go twice)
Okoye: skirmisher (her constant assists, and she'll be able to clear 3 buffs with basic and assist)
Black Panther: Striker
Reason behind this is because everyone sets the enemy team up to all become vulnerable, then Black Panther comes in on his 2nd turn with his ult and gets all that damage and then all the bonus attacks, so he's putting out a ton of damage and extra attacks to help him get his passive to trigger even more often.
Can't wait to see how many defensive wins I got with them in war, they're like 560k+ on defense last I remember. Usually I get 1 or 2 wins unless someone uses Xmen or Black Order on them (somehow this happens a LOT)
Talking about skirmisher, what happens if I use Shocker's ult. Is it going to apply new vulnerables? And BB`s ult which says `attack all oponents` ?
Don’t know if it is a bug or not but I am using the striker class on ultron and if you kill an enemy with the iso bonus attack you extend all positive effects by 2 turns on self and tech villain allies instead of just the 1 turn like normal.
What ISO8 do you have on your raid team? (Ultron / ME / Thanos / BB / EM)
is that updated? my skirmisher said counterattack and assist will also effect
I started putting the healer status on Thanos because he has such a high health pool but maybe it's better used on faster characters like Carnage
how would you apply iso-8 to a wave I avengers team ?
Which iso 8 should I use for my mercenary teams( Taskmaster, Merc Lt, Riot Guard, Bullseye, Korath the Pursuer, Killmonger, Sniper and Soldier)?
Hope the eye is healing up brotha! Lovin' the content!!
Thanks brother... feeling a lot better today
Thank goodness valley!
Can you put a link for the spreadsheet please?
Can anyone help me out with a list of Iso 8 options for my X-Men team? I have everyone except Phoenix, I'm only level 65 and I'd really appreciate your help. Thanks.
Man, imagine if there was an Iso ability that applied self taunt. Deadpool and the xforce would be insane!
would love to know the logic behind making ghost rider a striker? he crits so much with the raider class plus he goes first on supernatural and has splash damage on his special. his ult crits with raider more often than it doesnt and thats just with level one raider
How does it crit more often than not? With level 1 iso raider Ghost Rider has a 25% chance to crit.
Id rather take guaranteed damage instead of hoping to RNG every match that he does something useful.
@@marlontaylor7032 fairly certain they gain crit chance fron elsa
@@marlontaylor7032 elsa gives him critical chance and more often than not means it crits more often than it does not crit
@@MisterReginald141 else gives 10% crit chance. So with Raider Ghost Rider gives 35% chance to crit. So more than half the time, you won't do any increased damage
@@marlontaylor7032 I didn't say 50% I just tested supernatural over and over again in blitz and he kept criting with his ult
Quick question: Is it free to change from one class to another when the class is above lvl 1? For example, will it be free to change from Raider to Healer if Raider is lvl 3? That's something I'm not really being able to understand from the videos, and my account is not strong enough for me to check that on my own.
If you already upgraded Healer to level 3, it is free to change.
You do need to spend ions to upgrade the class the first time.
After that you can move back and forth for free
You have to pay for each level for each class once
Oh, now I get it! Thanks guys!
Did he not say this specifically in the beginning of the video?
@@dannygriffin667 Maybe he did, it's just that I didn't understand it. I mentioned this in my comment XD
I have corvus as a striker and proxima as skirmisher. Proxima goes so fast to put points up. Dont know if it is a bug but with this setup Corvus hits, Proxima then does the assist and adds vulnerable, then Corvus does the iso attack.
Not a bug
Remanx said this on the spreadsheet.
Does Hela's healing (from her summon dying) counts as active healing for the healer class?
Its does not also use someone like heimdal or sif as a healer since the healing the class gives is dependent on your characters max hp.
@@Lei1911 Thanks, man!!!
Spotted no bugs but I have found a fix for a long term existing bug.
If your game crashes/freezes mid battle, instead of force closing and losing energy, go into chat and the game will boot back up.
Tell me what I have to give hulk,and wave 1 avengers.reply me
If you want some fun, make hulk/cap healer, he skirmisher, bw striker and your 5th whatever fits their kit.
I’m having a terrible time just attempting to completing Dark Dimension 2 for a second time. Seems to always freeze. Can’t even get Ultron to 7 stars. This has been an every day problem since we got the last update. Please help! And I have removed the MSF app and reinstalled with no success.
Happens to me in raids a lot as well.
Ion challenge or flash event?
I'm sure someone already point this out, but I'm lazy (working) so I'm asking for myself: What's the deal with Ebony Maw's health going DOWN at the beginning of the video? It was showing an increase to all stats, and it showed the health displayed as usual as if it had improved...but it went down from 258k to 249k. Is this an actual bug, a visual bug, or just something I'm missing?
Never mind! Figured it out, my bad.
It’s fine, bro
Anyone else notice that Ebony Maw in the early screen shot his health goes down?
I switched classes right before the video. healer was level 2 the other was only level 1
for red skull what do you think?
Fortifier
This opens up F4 being viable in war Def. IW healer, and She hulk fortifier. She hulk is slow but means her taunt will last longer. If she gets cleansed then the rest will be in stealth anyway
I feel like she hulk should be healer you get a bonus to your self regen on top of handing out free heals based on huge health pool to allies. Fortifier doesnt seem to help that much comparatively even at 5th rank which nobody is hitting soon probably
@@nathanrhoades6504 Good point!
*cough cough Domino cough cough*
What ISO-8 to use on Nobu?
The spreadsheet unfortunately has no answer.
Looking at Fortifier, it just doesn't seem to really be worth it, until level 3, when it will give a barrier on turn and not just spawn.
Yeah, only level 3 is worth it
100% the flat value seems to be designed to help lvl 67 and lower.
Anyone else having problem opening the spreadsheet ?
@valleyFlyin I would love to see a video on the 1st iteration of ISO 8 and what that looked like. With how awful it everyone makes it sound it would be interesting for people to share what it was actually like.
I guess I'm crazy I like BB with extra crit.
That is the thing...there is room for personal preference.
@@Remanx my logic being right now in 7.2 BB getting more crits on his Ult gives a better chance of him killing more in one turn.
I've had 3 days. Figured out iso8. It's math. Healer is Shuri and Minn-Erva only. Raider is low damage AOE. Striker is high damage all attacks: basic, special, ult. You always target them first. Fortifiers have huge health pools. You want them dead, plan B. Skirmishers apply vulnerable with non-attack abilities. You're welcome
I deleted discord a month ago. This is a game, not a job.
@Jonathan Woodard Just do what I said. Don't waste time and money. That's all I care about
John Mausen, That guy is rubbish.
Don’t let him get to you.
Jonathan Woodard, Was that meant to be sarcastic or an insult? I actually do sleep alone.
Corvus and Hawkeye are absurd as strikers. They automatically call their partner which allows bonus attack on enemies without vulnerable. Especially with offense stone corvus just hit them so hard. Xforce X 5 raiders is sublime. They can wreck anything. I'm considering 5X healer symbiote it's just rude. Power armor also seems to greatly benefit from at least raider heavy class.
YES.
So, Healer is fairly useless unless the character is already a healer.
I thought they were giving us a way to create healers for teams that don’t have them.
I disagree
Yes, the "active" healing only affects characters that have a healing move,
But I put healer on all 5 defenders and FLEW through dark dimension 2.
All those regenerations!!! It's great.
Plus, at higher levels, the healer class adds on-turn healing even to non- support characters
Douglas Hanson So, if you load up with healers it’s effective, but making one toon a healer on a team without a regular healer, it wouldn’t do much good. Or have you found that not to be true?
@Jeremy Simmons
I've only started iso-8 on my top 3 teams:
1.) Defenders plus punisher
2.) Classic Guardians (no gamora)
3.) A.I.M. (no researcher no infector)
I have defenders to level 3, guardians to level 2, and A.I.M. working on LvL 2.
Defenders is such a great example, because only Iron Fist actually has active healing (30% chance on turn passive, on spawn, and mainly, his special.) So the "plus five percent active healing" from level one iso-8 only actually affects iron fist. He does 30% healing without iso-8, and 10% on turn for punisher or any other city hero. And 20% on-spawn for punisher/ city hero. So Iron fist will do 50% healing at level 5 iso-8, and 30% punisher on turn, 40% punisher on spawn.
But _everyone_ gets the ability to apply minor regeneration (which is like a half of a regular regeneration) to their lowest health ally at the beginning of their turn.
Here's how that usually plays out:
Punisher usually gets attacked first. All or most of my toons take their turn, each applying regen to pun. So punisher ends up with about 3 minor re-gen's by the time he takes his next turn. So he heals back to full health. Now, it's usually JJ who has taken more damage, so all my toons throw regens at her.
Basically, I try to only use JJ's special to remove heal blocks.
The survivability of the team is so extreme, I don't need any "vulnerables" being applied to any enemies, because I can outlast them. Defenders lose, or fizzle out, in dark dimension 2 for example-- they lose because punisher dies and there's just not enough damage dealing any more.
I don't need to increase anyone's damage-- I need them to stay alive.
Plus, it doesn't matter which iso-8 Class you choose, you're getting stat increases on all 5 main stats.
*keep in mind, all these minor regenerations get turned into bleeds when fighting against Dr. Strange, for example.*
I'm not really sure how to deal with that other than killing him off asap, and keeping JJ's special charged up.
And I'm mainly talking about dark dimension 2, where sustainability is _Everything_. Vulnerable won't help, because the enemies have customized stats, and it takes like 30 attacks to kill one enemy. Even cutting that in half still leaves my toons exposed to a ton of damage, especially when there are 37 enemies. So it's all about sustainability to me.
Iso8 heal isn't working. It takes a 10% heal from a 100k health merc lt, for eg, from 10k to 10.5k heal. it should take it from 10% to 15%, so to 15k heal.
War Machine is gross as raider. Extra crit from IM and all attacks are aoe.
So dark Phoenix is NOT getting class abilities!?!?
No.
Wakandans+iso 8= 👍
When yoyo has black bolt assist she doesn’t place vulnerable to after BB assisted that’s bs
4th!!!!!!!!!!!
First lol
Lmao yo some y'all be sack riding Remenex like he some kinda savant just because some of you guys are too lazy to figure out and understand the game mechanics and theorycraft on your own don't crown somebody the resident expert on behalf of the community GTFOH
Lol but nevertheless keep up the good work
Not sure your intentions..
@@catalyst539 lol just stating an observation, Valley and OMG act as if Remenex is "smarter" then the rest of the player base (and hes not) but at the same time appreciate all the work the CCs do for the comunity
@@nemesis5289s the only smart thing I do is listen to the community. They tell me what to test and I was lucky enough to be able to start thinking about this process before others.
REMANX IS A BEAST OF A PLAYER AND AN SMART PLAYER NEVER HEARD OF a Dan Weiss . Me personally I appreciate anyone's help these guys put the extra work to help the player base can't say the same for you or anyone that thinks like you .
@@Remanx yeah I appreciate the humbleness LOL not trying to take anything away from you cuz you do a damn good job it's just funny to see/hear some of the other content creators and some of the people in the community act as if your the Stephen Hawkings of Marvel Strike Force... it probably says more about how little they think of themselves but keep up the good work man
I have found this game mode, irrelevant