Counters to the Top Alliance War Defensive Teams - Marvel Strike Force
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2020
- By popular request, here is a video about countering the top War Defense teams in Marvel Strike Force today.
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Nice, felt like watching some VF and got a vid straight out of the oven. Thank you for your hard work good sir
Great vid and perfect timing!
Loved this, very informative
Now I know why I recently losing my defense streak... you spoil the recipe :(
We will wait for the best war attack team video from you!!! Cheers!!!
Good stuff ValleyFlyin! It looks like my next goal is my Asgardian and AIM teams. Thanks! Stay fit. We are gonna be quarantined for at least a couple months! lol
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Great video. And counter lists thanks for all the great content. One note about asgards though, FF can punch up by 50k easy. One of the more reliable counters. 100k punch up on double tap
Forgive me buts what *Double Tap* mean? I feel like i'm missing something lol. Thanks in advance.
Has there been any updates to this infographic? Would love it if we could get one with red skull HYDRA included
How to deal with a strong CM in war surrounded by her military buddies?
Great Fast Summary, Valley. I love that these targeted info videos are to-the-point-in-and-out. Well Done! I need help with the War-Bot link. When I click it it’s expired. How do I get a fresh link? Thank You!
This video deserves an update!
will AIM work against asgardians with either monstrosity or researcher instead of Ultron? I'm still struggling on orange gear to get into dd2
Symbiotes actually punch up 10-35k against Asgardians. Disrupting Sif is key then focus Thor and the rest falls in place
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I've encountered an inhuman team in defense 2 wars ago and they took out 6 of our teams. Is there a good counter to them?
I'm still in the early testing phase but the Ultimus/Minerva combo seems to have potential against Hydra. I've only tried it once but it was in Reactor with the Security buff so I punched down like 75k. That being said, I did end up annihilating them with my team finishing the fight at full health. Ultimus, Minnerva, Cyborg, Korath and Thanos. I think Kree Royal Guard would sub in well for Thanos (when I yank him off the team to go hang out with Black Order) and I'm pretty sure you could sub out Korath, he doesn't bring much to that particular party.
Korath works well as a supernatural 5th vs asgardians. Especially if he can stick ability block they get punched out hard. If you don't stick ability block you can often still take a few of them down and 2 hit them.
What does Asgardian kill if I use a Asgardian?
When do we get the Rock impression?
I've punched up about 30k on wakandans with my 185k Sinister 6. That might change once you see higher Wakandans with how reliant they are on T4 abilities. I'll have to test it out once I get my S6 higher.
why isnt Sin 6 listed as a counter to defenders? weren't they made SPECIFICALLY to counter them?
Six months on do you plan on an updated video?
I beat the hydra team using my supernatural team, but you need to to have mordos passive to rank 5 and he chain heals, you also need to survive early as you do not have a taunt to allow dr strange to flip once they all buff up and flip the armoured guards taunt, then focus fire debuffed redskull to death. You cant get into a drawn out fight or you will lose. I can punch up a little with this team, but its far eaiser to get high ranked hydra teams than super natural due to the lack of shards for ghost rider and elsa. Xmen work well too if you time it well.
999 views. I'll be the 1000th then. Fantastic content Valley.
What is the best team to use against the default shield officer teams?
pretty much anything...lol
Thanks. I'll give that a try lol seriously though, love the vids man, always look forward to them.
The Setzers with fury? Bh our supers work well. Without fury they aren’t very hard to deal with.
@@johobo2038 no I was just kidding about the placeholder shield teams.
I know this is a satirical comment, but The Thing is pretty good against default rooms. His passive makes it so they all just kill themselves lol
Did ohmgee get the ‘Rona?
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12:10 countering as guardians. If using symbiotes I recommend a 2 tap go in with a couple low lvl toons eat up loki special n hella ult and u can punch up slightly. However if u take in a team that can eat loki special hella ult then hit thor so he doesn't gain charge then allow sif to taunt then time out u can punch up quite a bit. But big punch ups are heavily dependant on certain t4 invested in symbiotes.. Carnage special being number 1 then symbiote passive symbiote ult miles ult.. Have these t4s or more n u can destroy huge asguards doing the 2 tap I just explained
Why do you want to go in with a couple low level toons?
@@elsenor8208 if your wanting a guaranteed big punch up. Eating up loki special hella ult and sif taunt will almost guarantee a big punch up.go in with shit toons so u don't waste good ones on a simple setup. The spiders can handle the rest easy. It's just if rng fucks u and loki specials carnage then hella ults carnage it's almost a certain loss.. I regularly beat 400k full gt13 as guardians in war with my spiders.. Last war I killed gt13 full asguards that were boosted still had armoury and medbay and had 8 positive effects (cargo Bay I think) granted it was only a 4k punch up on them but I one shorted it. Was lucky... Rng wasn't the best for me.. Loki specialed carnage but hella didn't... And I was only just able to keep carnage alive to get the victory... I kill asguards with my spiders every war. Its all about attack sequence. Especially if one shotting. But if trying 40k+ punch up and u want guaranteed victory I find its better to 2 rap them... First tap is a suicide squad just to draw those previously said attacks so you are setup for your spiders to come in and slaughter....
@@elsenor8208 if u continue past sif taunt you run the risk of screwing up everything in the setup. So why waste big toons??? U definitely don't want to get loki to use his ult on the setup because the spiders thrive on killing toons to gain speed bar... Hence why when one shooting your first 2 attacks are killing Greg... Remember though u must have carnage passive t4d or you won't gain the speed bar u need from killing gregs
What does 2 tap go mean?
Im playing symbiotes against asgardians. I can verify that small punchdowns are possible. You shouldnt get to confident though
Can supernatural beat hydra??
As a FTP player I keep defenders on offense because of Hydra. I'm not mad, and I know I'm kinda wasting them, but without Phoenix, without Black Bolt, with a very weak BKT, the only thing that kinda works is punching down about 100k with defenders or possibly a healing / tanking oriented hybrid with Miss Marvel or even night nurse, if she's strong enough. You definitely won't one shot them but you won't lose by ko either, most likely. Probably you'll get rid of annoying scientist and possibly another minion. Then you clean up the rest with a second attack. Not the best, most efficient way by any means, but it's a way to get by the best you can, having very limited resources.
so I actually run my f4 with Shuri and I can punch on war offense. The key is smashing Thor hard first hell go invisible, then you're forced to smash Sif which will make her go invisible next, that will remove her taunt then thing should be able to one shot Loki, then finish off Thor before he sets off his passive, then hela, but this team will struggle in the room that applied disrupt to the offensive team.
Hey valley, u forgot to mention that certain t4s are required for SN to achieve that punch up against asguardians
You’re right. I’ve had those T4s for a while so I take them for granted sometimes.
yep Mordo special must have....
I punch across with supers on asgard almost every war with only gr passive t4. I could definitely see a couple more t4’s making the punch up an option.
Mordo's Passive is a MUST and his Special helps quite a bit too.
Isn't Sinister 6 a huge counter to Defenders?
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Can someone please explain how Symbiotes are supposed to counter asgardians? I tried it once with a 100k punch down and I barely won. With no boosts mine are 350k. Is there a strategy or something?
You need to make sure that you don't take out a summon until after miles takes his first turn or sif will go first. use miles to disrupt sif taunt. Then thor should be your first target. stack as many bleeds as possible and use aoe/chain attacks to destroy summons as able. you will gain tons of tm for your 3 symbiote characters for the kills and debuffs, especially if you have T4s on carnage passive. leave hela for last, more summons mean more tm gain. the reason you wait to do so at the beginning is because it removes 10% tm from your team, but carnage passive (+30%) makes up for it for your 3 symbiotes. venom can spread heal block, then carnage can spread with basic. Save Sym Spidey ult for when Loki does his summons because it can't be dodged. I took out a 260k team with my 250k symbiotes last war. If you can survive Loki's first turn and get disrupt on sif, it seems to work well so far.
@@richardhowell1263 Niknokseyer has a video where he targets Greg right outta the gate like 3 times in a row to generate turn meter for the Symbiotes early. I haven't had a chance to try it yet myself though.
Drax,Ultron,Ultimus, kre cyborg korath counters Asgardians there is a version with Miles in the place of kree cyborg.... punch across- punch up 10-20k greteting from Poland:)
Waldemar Żarek, I use that same team! I’m glad I’m not the only one to think of it
Is that a herowears shirt?
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Sweet shirt
PA major punch up vs defenders
Wrong info for BH vs Coulson Shield.
The main thing is toad giving focus to Magneto. So your first and only focus is to disrupt Security with magnetos special. Then focus on Medic
Not correct. I've yet to fail against Coulson shield with my updated Brotherhood. The clump up is what's key. I've beaten Coulson shield even when my Toad failed to clear any of the Immunities because of how much splash damage the Brotherhood is doing to the entire team. Once your Pyro clears out those nasty Defense Ups, the Brotherhood rolls right over em. The Disrupt on Security is certainly very helpful but it's a turn 2 move.
@@jasongustafson2691 BH is a natural counter to fury if you don't care about punch up. I have tried turn 1 blind or turn 1 disrupt fury or shield. They all work well in an even punch. But consideration should be made if you want to punch up 150% like that.
What does punch up and punch down mean?
Punch up mean that the team you're attacking is stronger than the team you're using. Punch down means that the team youre attacking is weaker that you're using.
What does "OG" mean? As in "OG X-Men", and "OG Power Armor"?
Original? Maybe...
Og kush
So basically, besides Hydra, the F4 can destroy any team on defense. That’s great!
what about OG BH against wakandans? i´ve punch 100k against them
I use a hybrid BH with venom/carnage and at 286k they can kill a 400k wakandans.
I punched down on hydra with f4 today. Was a massive punch down cuz we are destroying these guys but if did work. Lol
Info graph need red skull update :)
BKT and Technerva (Vision instead of Thanos) smash Sinister 6 with ease.
Quick question, My alliance is about to attempt it’s first ultimus seven raid,
Can you tell me what the rewards are if we don’t make it to 30%
Apparently my brain is fried. What are you talking about when you say punch up or punch down? Is that referring to the teams power above or below who you're fighting? Please give an example.
I think that is what that means yes
I love WAR
Last war destroyed 180 k Asgardians with symbiote spiderverse at 200 k gonna try a punch up with them next
You just had to tell the masses about war bot....
What is OG?
Original
Old school Gangsta
graphic says F4 has to punch down to coulson. i have punched up but there is a bit of trickery to it, basically namor has to be stronger than johnny storm after all damage bonuses are added. that makes coulson go after namor which is a fair bit tankier than johnny. after the initial barrage is a 5v5 and F4 should clean them up quickly.
symb spidey punches across with asgardians. saw a video and the guy didn't play it perfectly but still won with venom carnage and symbiote at full health.
I have made sure my 5 red thing has the highest damage and I smash the crap out of coulson teams. Thing has a massive health pool so if he can eat all that damage it’s a walk in the park. If they manage to take him out then it’s a lost cause and to much of a punch up. Lol
@@johobo2038 i went with namor because his damage is pretty high and he gets a bigger dmg bonus meaning he can surpass HT without separating them too much in power and creating an imbalanced team but yeah just redirecting coulsons attack to anyone other than Johnny "paper thin" Storm should do it.
Damp that makes total sense. My reds are all 3 other than thing so he made the most sense cuz he was going to be the highest no matter how I did it. That and his damage is actually pretty high naturally but namor makes sense too depending on individual situations. Johnny definitely can’t be the guy to take it. Lol
I have beaten wakandans with power armor in war and there not listed as a counter weird
Because you shouldn't waste power armor on wakandans.
@@professorz6631 exactly
I beaten wakandans with power armor before and there not listed
For most of the teams I only talked about the top 4 or so... Power Armor works against a lot of the teams.
If u have to punch down is it really a counter?
Yes. Obviously you don't have unlimited of teams that punch up.
Defenders use vs them bkt easy counter so u not wasting f4 or others on them 350k plus bkts
Video starts at 1:55 your welcome
I can literally beat the wakanda team in war with a random non synergy team. Worst team meta team so far, I’ve only invested in shuri for u7.
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So extremely obvious they want you to spend money on blackbolt. Bad designed character all through. And yeah it is different punching up since an offence can be used maximum 1 time.
What the hell does punch up or punch down mean
No Inhumans mentioned, who hard counter several teams. Soft counter others. No talk for T4s needed to make specidic teams work. No talk of Red Skull. This is stolen content.