Tadpole to Toad- An Ultimate Greninja Guide| Part 3- Jab Locks and Footstools
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2020
- Going over fast fall up air, jab locks, and footstools in this episode, so all the fancy stuff!
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Parts:
1 - Overview and Neutral
2 - Advantage
3 - All About Jab Locks
4 - Movement
5 - Substitute (Counter)
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Time stamps:
0:38 Up Air
2:29 Fast Fall Up Air
4:29 Optimizing Tech Chases
5:32 Back to Fast Fall Up Air
7:54 Single Hit Up Air
8:17 Last Hit Up Air
8:41 Jab Locks
9:57 Dash Locks
12:13 Pop Up Animations
12:45 Pratfall Followups
14:57 Down Air
15:19 Down Air Movement
17:12 Sweetspot Down Air
19:23 Sourspot Down Air
20:22 (WHOOP!) Down Air Cancelling
21:30 Footstools
22:02 Footstool Locked Moves
23:57 FCWS Footstool
24:42 Footstool Down Air
25:35 Footstool Out of Shield
26:11 Aerial Footstool Down Air
27:42 Setups for Aerial Footstool Down Air
28:19 Dtilt and Back Air
28:42 IDGAF (I Do Grounded Aerial Footstools)
29:19 Phantom Footstools
29:55 Outro!
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Resources:
Greninja Discord Server: / discord
Fast Fall Up Air Tumble Percents: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Dtilt Out of Grenfinite Chart: natedtn/status/11...
Dash Lock Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Original Dash Lock Video: • Going In Depth About G...
Aerial Footstool Dair Chart: apolotion/status/...
GimR’s Phantom Footstool Video: • Phantom Footstool
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The Cosmic Game - Sol Tapado (The Covered Sun)
La Femme - Sur La Planche
Chicco - Modjadji
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Parov Stelar - Mama Talking ft. Stuff Smith
Beastars OP 1[Wild Side] Instrumental cover
De Hofnar - De Nacht
Body Talk (Bakermat Remix)
Malmo - This is Nature 
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GRENINJA MAINS RISE
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I started loving greninja's gameplay for no reason a few days ago and I've been practicing and watching guides, yours was by far the most helpful so thank you for dropping part 3, it'll sure be as good and useful as the first 2
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Just binge watched all three guides and I'm really happy that I apparently got here just in time. Looking forward to part 4!
Thanks dude, I’m so glad I found this. I actually dropped greninja because I couldn’t find any help, I super siked to start pick him up again
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Im so excited. I've been going through a character crisis and these vids helped me settle on a main. Thank you so much!
my goodness this is a long serise but needed its letting me know the true potential of greninja
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Thank you so much for these guides. I kinda got bored with greninja and stopped playing him for a month, but these guides have sparked my interest.
Another amazing guide! Thank you for putting this together. Best resourses for learning how to play our favourite frog
Dude thank you for these videos. I mained greninja in smash ds. I am inspired to put some work into this character. Such a detailed and easy to follow series. So many resources. 12/10. Will watch 5 times.
This is deadass the best single-character guide series on YT.
honestly wanna get back to greninja now :o
stopped after i found more satisfaction playing shiek (more pain) but I still feel the greninja inside me trying to hop around
Same for me I went to inkling after greninja but I want Greninja soo bad , only problem I'm better with inkling :(
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loving the guide getting back into ssbu and decided on picking up greninja, well made guide
Thanks a loooot for the video, you certainly put a lot of time and effort into it!
14:34 thanks for the shout out! Really good video
You should ask Venia for help with the movement guide. You guys teaming up for a guide would be amazing!
Something else I noticed in training room, your hitbox can be partially inside a character if you turnaround right next to them. Turnaround>jump>HOLD IN> footstool. It’s not super practical (running directly into the enemy doesn’t really make sense) but it’s cool when it works
These videos are actually insanely good man
love your comedy dude catches me off guard and have to rewind cause i missed the part after due to laughing
15:27 I feel this way about substitute. Every substitute is a free extra jump.
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Thank you so much for these, loved this three part(?) series
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Appreciate you and these videos so much, man. Thanks for putting them out! Easily the best Greninja guides there are. I never really gave the frog the time of day previously, but everything about him made so much more sense after watching your content. I've been having a blast labbing and playing him ever since Part 1!
And now with Leo showing the Frog Gang some love during a recent tournament, I'd imagine there will be a lot more people stumbling across your guides soon. Keep up the great work!
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greninja's circle camping with phantom footsool is actually crazy
Who is using this? Are they getting a lot of mileage off of the invincibility? How big are the hitboxes that are being avoided by phantom footstool?
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Is part 4 only movement? That would be cool because I struggle alot with movement
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7:14 Instructions unclear, I got banned from a tournament because I whipped it out
Is there a good methodology for finding non-footstool locked moves? I'm a captain falcon main and am not sure if I'm finding them in the range or not. I think dair and nair 1 are not locked, but I am unsure
How do you input the downair cancel
Wait, is this man directional dodging out of footstool? Lol
You covered uair by the time I learned most of what you put in this video by myself :(
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How do I down air cancel? I couldn't quite understand
sub titles in french are sous-titres btw
Hey ice been trying for the last couple hours to get the fast fall up air and I can never seem to get can someone help me
How can u cancel the down air??
What controls do you use on greninja
Is Part 4 coming?
Hello from the future! Hope all is well. I was revisiting these videos to progress my greninja more and noticed that you said we get 20 frames after a jab lock. I'm not super positive and could be wrong, but I thought that the equation for determining how much frame advantage we get is 38 (non actionable frames after jab lock) -- total frames of jab. And Greninja's Jab 1 and 2 are both 21 total frames (according to Ultimate Frame Data website). So wouldn't that leave us with only 17 frames of advantage after jab lock?
Are you reaaally sure that for drag down you have to do it in this order then ?
It just doesn't work for me, but I can get it everytime I do it the other way, fast fall first and then up air.
Basically, if you want to do up throw u air, it is fast fall before the last hit.
If you are in neutral or don't mind doing an untrue combo, you can jump then fastfall u air in order to get either a tech chase or a jab lock combo starter.
Final hit u air is basically a different move than drag down u air. You have to figure out how much it pops up the opponent at different percentage ranges to know how to combo off of it. The fast fall in final hit u air is right before the last hit in order to get to the ground sooner with more time to combo off final hit u air.
Okay one thing, I've been using greninja for like ages but I dont know if I should use buffered short hop up air or delayed up air because buffered is mega true but you have to dash out of dash attack like frame 1 for it to be a consistent drag down but delayed up air just isn't true against alot of characters. Help this frog
Depends on if you want them to tech into the floor or if you want to combo off final hit u air.
can you review mkleo's joker?
Dude, I have my jump setup on my shoulder button and I couldn't do any footstool. Now, for some reason I just tried using the x button only for footstools and I'm not missing a single one of those. WTF!?
One thing that’s important to note that’s not in the video: you can only shorthop dair on certain stages. Some stages you need to fullhop dair
What languages were they in the beginning?
I know greninja has almost no good out of shield options but what do you think is the best.
I think its going to end up being footstool.
What are greninja’s bread and butter combos?
Mm dash attack up air( not fast fall) to juggle and get damage
Also, there are a lot people on the discord who don't believe in the non-spiking dair -> fs on DI out. Are you sure that works? The chart is for FS -> dair, not the other way assuming I remember correctly.
Edit: Not trying to show you up or anything, these are fantastic guides overall. Just want to make sure everything is as accurate as possible.
Probably depends on percentage range. Weak dair send them up and out, strong dair spikes them downward. So it would depend on how much knockback weak dair is applying vs the pop up animation.
What other games do you like, besides smash?
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I can only play characters that don’t work ZSS, Greninja, and Samus
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I was like who's Mans is this when he was speaking chinese
It gonna be around the time of the arms character thou
It shouldn't be! The reveal is at 9 AM Central, which is 3 hours before the release of this video. You can come back and watch it right after :)
@@apolotion Oh great iv loved all of these so far they have been super helpfull so im glad i can watch both.
Yoo I speak French and Spanish too!
Is there a greninja zero to death?
Maybe on Bowser and floaties
I've pocketed Greninja just for fun since smash 4 (I just love his movement) after seeing some of the more advanced stuff he can do though I think I'm gonna put in some times to upgrade him to secondary maybe, even main if I really take a shine to him
Wait can’t u do foot stool out of shield my friend does it to me because he says he can do it
It depends I think on the animation of what you're punishing. The problem is footstool just turns into phantom footstool and doesn't interrupt attack animations. So if your footstool causes the hitstun like animation, then you may have the opportunity to directional air dodge or go for either weak or spike dair.
@@wt_neptune54 ohh ok thanks but is it worth it to learn
Greninja honestly looks busted as fuck