This actually made me a little emotional to watch and hear a student of the game provide a fair and balanced appraisal of the NZ cricket team. Thank you.
@@mikespearwood3914 because NZ gets treated as an afterthought by the world cricket media (Jrood has mentioned that has to do with revenue - they're not box office for media) or their achievements have been dismissed as fluky or an aberration. The whole myth of NZ greentops is due to overseas media not having a clue about how the pitches actually play and why they are so green looking - they don't actually seam that much - and they don't detreiorate at anywhere near the rate other countries do . Basically Most overseas cricket media and journos could have their knoweldge of NZ summed up by this: Greentops, Hobbits, Rugby - very few have bothered to look any further than the match scoreboards
@@panzerschreckpete Yes I am glad you brought that point. I remember Simon Doull making a point saying they have tried everything and realised it's best to have a green top where it gets good for batting on day 4 and 5 but you have to be very cautious early on. . .
This is so meta: the nicest weirdguy in cricket punditry, on the nicest weirdguys in cricket. All our eternal heroworship JROD - your fans since the Age of #CricketWithBalls :)
What went right, was the kiwis played the game how it should be played! With the highest possible level of sportsmanship, total commitment to the TEAM, outstanding and selfless leadership, great coaching and support staff, and lastly, the admiration of the entire country for representing us as we would like ourselves to be showcased to the rest of the sporting world. We love to win, but we don’t do it by cheating, by sledging the man at the crease, by intimidating the umpires or insulting the viewers perception of sport. We enjoy a great game, be it cricket, rugby, netball, sailing, rowing or whatever, and when the game is over, we don’t sulk if we lose, or gloat if we win, …. New Zealanders just want to enjoy the moment, commiserate with the losing team, or congratulate the winners, get along with everyone and look forward to the next contest! And most of all we celebrate living and playing sport, doing business or enjoying our quality of life in the happiest country on earth - bar none! Pretty straight forward, honest and straight - simple really! Oh and every now and then we win the big ones - World Cup of Test Cricket, Olympic medals, Rugby World Cups, Americas Cup etc and DON’T we celebrate with everyone when do do enjoy success!!! Easy as bro’ …
Great video....after the heartbreak that NZ suffered in 2019 world cup final, they deserve this luck. Being an Indian fan even if NZ wins the WTC, I will be happy for them.
Don't worry, this may be the only time NZ wins the WTC in our lifetimes, but I'm willing to bet a lot of money that India will win multiple times in the next few decades.
@@wgoulding well India haven't won any ICC trophy since last winning 2013 Champions Trophy. Don't know how long this wait will continue...but congrats New Zealand...they deserve it! I hope this WTC win inspires children in NZ to pickup cricket as sport.
This dude makes content worth GOLD. I cannot understand how is he not more popular, I don't know anyone who makes so much sense when talking about cricket!!!
Everything around the WTC over the last 2 years and also emphasizing the rise of New Zealand Cricket summarized in the best way. M so sharing this everywhere among those who are even mild fans of test cricket. Thanks Jarrod for this, Really finding your Channel was the best cricketing thing happened to me this year :)
This is one of the best videos on this channel! I really want India to win but if India loses in the WTC finals, it'll be one hell of a story. New ICC cup holders, who aren't among the Big Three and aren't defending champions of another ICC trophy. Ofc on the day of the potential loss, I'll be pissed in that moment, but once the dust settles, I'll definitely give a round of applause to NZ.
ICC have immediately taken note and changed to all tests having the same points. Another note is that Australia making the final would've been even more farcical; one overseas series and lost a series at home
@@basileldho9846 Teams playing fewer tests are at an advantage and a disadvantage at the same time. One win can boost their percentage while one loss can plummet their chances.
@@umangjain5460 For them, recovery from a plummet would be easier. But for big 3, it will hard as 1. Each match they play account for a smaller percentage than non-big 3 teams 2. They play against each other more often which makes winning that much more harder. Big 3 will be at an advantage if they decide to play more 2 match series with smaller teams.
Compared to the NBA and the way Football leagues are governed around the globe, Cricket has been very poorly managed and governed with the ICC being a sycophant to the Big 3. It's disappointing that with so many countries playing the sport, the CWC is still restricted to 10-14 teams. . . Meanwhile I adore the way NZ board manages their players and allows their players to play in overseas tournaments especially when they are not required for national duty. In last 3 WC, they have punched above their weights when it mattered the most by knocking out the favourites in SA and India in 2011,2015 and 2019 WC.
NZ though being a part of cricket setup for this long is a small cricketing nation makes me think if my country ( an associate) would fit into the "micro" cricketing nation. If NZ had such difficultly to make their way to challenge the top countries, there is no way an associate nation can challenge the established nations with the limited funds. And because they can't challenge, ICC limits finance even more and the cycle continues. Great video as always.
I think that associate nations probably shouldn’t expect to become test playing nations. However, I think that it maybe possible to get closer to challenge the full members in ODI cricket and maybe T20I. I personally would love it if Hong Kong, Netherlands or Kenya could challenge the main nations (How Kenya declined I do not know). People will root for Afghanistan going forward the same way they rooted for Zimbabwe during their golden period. I think that that is the best an associate nation can hope for. Maybe giving more nations ODI status is needed, but I don’t know.
All Indians I talk to get really angry at 'Ind has 1 billion population talk' and even at the Idea of Ind having better resources because they don't want any caveats in regards to Ind's success... Really lovely vid jarrod always waiting for more.
It is annoying when it is used as a point to divert from the on field brilliance and used as an excuse for losing especially by Aus or Eng. NZ has much less population than Aus or Eng so they can't use this same excuse when they lose to NZ...and many Indians have NZ as their 2nd favourite team
Man, it's still 11v11, if your system isn't good enough the population count doesn't matter, for so many years, India's system was so bad that's why we struggled to win series in aus, south africa and so on. If the system is quite good, your team will shine
Because that is stupid logic .. Any country with 200 cricketers can have 25 very good cricketers You dont need billion people for that As frustrating as it is , we do worse than country like Jamaica in Olympics. The population doesn't come handy there. We win because we are passionate ,dedicated and good at it.. Its 11 vs 11 on the field and they are given similar opportunities.
Excellent analysis, Jarrod. World cricket looks like an oligarchy serving interests of India, England and Australia. The 10-team world cup with round robin format only helped these 3 earn big chunk of money. And NZ spoiled this revenue party by knocking out India in semis. Similarly, World Test Championship Final was supposed to feature 2 out of the big 3. At least that is what ICC would have hoped for. NZ had no business to be in the finals before covid. But due to all the weird things that have happened, NZ have reached there. ICC have also ensured that there will be one ICC tournament each year till 2031. Wonder what lies ahead for bilateral series, when every year 2 months will go into IPL and 1-1.5 month into ICC tournament.
the big 3 initially opposed icc tournament every year as the bilateral series are profitable for big 3...it is the smaller nations that need icc tournaments more ..and by increasing the number of teams that can participate in world cup...icc is actually thinking about the smaller nations
@@doctorjoy2688 Agree with you. ICC tournaments are good for smaller nations. And good that they have increased no. of teams. I feel that top players from big 3 will only focus on IPL, ICC tournaments and bilateral series with top teams. Also, the move by ICC to host a tournament every year might be a way of increasing their revenue from broadcasters.
Who is making money by playing cricket? It's the Big3 while other nations are either returning a loss or no profit, heck,even Bangladesh isn't turning a profit. Stop pretending that other countries are contributing any substantial amount, Jarrod won't say how much the Big3 contributes to ICC revenues because even he knows that mentioning the fact that more than 90% money earned by ICC is from Big3(70% alone from India) will mean that whatever point he makes about fucking equality etc goes into gutter and idiots like you will be ignoring the fact just like him. If anything, that situation is funny that you guys piss on Big3 but without Big3, cricket will not even be sustainable.
loved your coverage here jarrod. would have loved to know your opinion on the pundits blaming the county cricket system for england's loss but the same county system transformed an average marnus labuschagne into australia's backbone in just one or two season.
The county system is completely different to an overseas player. It's a chance to hone your own skills in the toughest place to play seam against a really good and varied collection of players. But if it's your only form of learning cricket, like most first class systems, it's one dimensional.
While you can pick up a lot of points quickly from shorter series, I do think you fail to mention that a bad day at the office can be extremely costly ... and this did arguably happen to NZ in Sri Lanka in the first test of their series. Played exactly a month after the 2019 World Cup final, understandably they didn't look in the right frame of mind to be playing test cricket - I remember Trent Boult dropping the most ridiculously easy caught and bowled of all time. And from that - boom, half the series points gone. If it was a 3, 4 or 5 test series, they could have come back and still got a big haul of points from the series. So I think in a way the shorter series can also add a lot of pressure - you have to be up for it from ball one. Apart from that, another great video! :D
Nice video Jarrod, one thing I do find funny as a kiwi is the amount of scrutiny about us only doing well at home etc. I still remember the last 20 years we spent down at 7-8 in the rankings and regularly getting rolled for 100 in home tests.
Don't forget the narrative that New Zealand only wins at home because they prepare green seaming wickets - despite the fact New Zealand batted first in three of the four matches they won against the Windies and Pakistan to make the final and scored at least 400 each time. In the other they scored over 650 batting second and won by an innings.
The system may have favoured the small teams but personally I don't think many can argue that the two teams in WTC Final are not the best two sides (Coming from an England fan, but I can admit we're pretty rubbish atm)
A lot of this 'luck' coming our way actually favored Australia more, so it's interesting that they are the loudest when it comes to us being lucky to be there. When you look at the table and how things have panned out, we actually fully deserved to be there being comfortably the second best team, so the only thing that went right really was that we won tests, something completely in our control. Also the 4 points docked from Aussie for a slow over rate, so cheers Tim Paine.
Nick Corbett Yeah, At 36 Tim Paine can't have many games left for aussie but his captaincy (or lack of it) was a big factor why they didn't get into the final, along with his mouth... Keep him there Australia! 😂👍
You forgot about the 4 points penalty Aus got for slow over rate at MCG. Without penalty Aus would have qualified - for having more wins at same pct points.
@@poo-tinthedwarfbunkerb1tch535 it was shameful, cricket Australia never had the intention of sending the team there, but they didn't hesitate from making requests and requests and csa naively kept fulfilling these absurd requests, csa bent over backwards to fullfill cricket Australia's requests, if you didn't intended to go from the start, then why did you made these requests, they basically played CSA, it was just shameful. Ipl was played in india despite india going through the 2nd wave, and Australian contingent to sa was smaller than the no. of foreign players in ipl, just shameful behaviour by Cricket Australia
@@anubhav111196 the 2nd wave in india only began after the ipl was already underway which is why it was suspended mid tournament, whereas the covid situation in Sa was apparent beforehand, so it's obvious as to why they chose to skip it, and even if australia had gone through with the tour, they would've won pretty handily anyway given the enormous gulf in standards.
@@poo-tinthedwarfbunkerb1tch535 what would've happened if they had toured isn't the question, why didn't they tour after making such requests, and it's ridiculous you're defending, every expert on Australian side ridiculed Ca for deciding to skip the tour. And ipl was only halted mid way because players and staff started to get infected. Ipl started on April 9, india reported 150,000 cases on April 9, it's all about priority, cricket Australia doesn't want to have a feud with bcci, but they have no problem in staring one with CSA. It was shameful decision by ca, sorry I won't argue anymore
New Zealand don't tour away enough, they last toured south Africa in 2016, last toured india in 2016, their tour of Australia last year was after five years, Australia hasn't toured new zealand since 2016, the ICC world test championship should actually have teams be tested home and away (away victories should ideally count for more points) against quality opposition, if it cant be done in 2 years take 3 years, but there needs to be a proper test of ur skills across conditions in relatively equal manner between the teams to decide the finalists
it's easy to say but organizing test series for NZ is difficult because of limited financial output from them. they play 2 test match series and then play 5 match t20 series to basically compensate the profits.
ICC has failed to increase reach of cricket to more nations. Look at other sports like football, basketball. So many countries play it whereas cricket has always revolved around 3-4 teams who play quality one. Had more focus gone into the associate countries, cricket could have developed much more than what it has.
ICC actually grew cricket pretty well considering they've never been in charge. It's the teams who haven't helped grow cricket. And cricket is now far bigger globally than it has ever been.
The quality of associate cricket is in fact better than its ever been Revenue generation from these countries will take time but will happen Let's hope for the best
World test championship will benefit smaller team. What I feel big 3 will play each other in test match more often and they weir off there own points and as a result there will be most probably only one among big 3 will be in final in coming year for WTC in coming years just like WTC2021...
There's another angle that is entirely neglected, a little money goes a long way in NZ. They have the population of one fifth of Mumbai, and the BCCI has a population of 1.3 billion to administer over. The scale of cricket in India is vast compared to tiny nations, and the budget they need to provide resources to administer and operate cricket in a vast country like India, not just population but also geographic scale, is proportionally greater.
@@timmyb7734 "The States shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, including the northern territory of South Australia" Hand it over Jacinta
New Zealand also beat England 2/0 at home during this period but the points didn’t go to NZ because the series was announced after the WTC started...also NZ missed the chance to beat Bangladesh at home because of the shootings in Christchurch....deserved finalists......😎
Even Australia dropping 4 points for slow over rate helped NZ. Otherwise Australia would have had higher percentage of points. Fair play to NZ though. They made the best of their opportunities.
Maybe the *last* two tests of every series, be it two, three or five-long, should count (and others shouldn't)? It would help with "dead rubber" matches. I'm also in favour of away teams automatically winning the toss, so tosses only happen in neutral venues. And speaking as an NZer, some form of revenue sharing from overseas series would be incredibly helpful. NZ Cricket loses a serious chunk of money for each home test. That's a major reason test series in NZ tend to be so short. :(
Well, I think Sri Lanka has been the more unfortunate team, just think about it like this, Sri Lanka qualified for final in 2007, 2011 world cup, 2009, 2012,2014(which they won eventually) T20 world cups. And new Zealand has always qualified for atleast semis in 50 over world cups which is so brilliant, kudos to them.
For Test cricket There should be 3 divisions.(A, B, C) Each division should have 5 teams. Division A Team will play against their division team 2 home and 2 away series of 3 matches. (process same for division B and division C as well) Then after this, division A teams will play 2 series one home and one away with division B teams according to ranking (team standing no 1 in division B will get to play series with team standing at 1 and 2 division A) and same with division C will also get 2 series with division A and Division B teams. So this way accordingly after completing this whole cycle the standing teams in each cycle will be promoted and relegated. Division B no 1 team will directly be promoted and 5 th team on division A will be relegated and team standing at 2nd in division B will play series of three matches with team standing at 4th in division A, neutral venue to decide their division. (I know it is little bit complicated but I am also seeing commercial angle because there will be some intensity among A and B division teams to be in top of the is table so that they get to play series with big teams which will help them to find sponser.) According to this. Every team will play total 8 series of 3 matches each. (4 among there division and 2 in both divisions each). This should be done in 3 yrs time After this top two teams of division A should play a 3 match series for world test championship at one venue and winner will be crowned as champion. @jarrodkimber
I lost you at half way, too much complicated! Just make it simple after 4 series 5th rank team relegates and 1st team gets promoted and Top 4 team will get price money!
@@Killjoy1204 it is not at all complicated you have to reward series with big teams to grade B and grade C teams so that they can get sponser. Every team will play within their grade 4 series 2 home and 2 away then acoonding to their standing suppose(in this order they finish the first cycle) Grade A INDIA (PAK. WI, IRE, ZIM) ENG (PAK, SRI. IRE, NED) AUS (WI, SRI,ZIM,NED) Nz(BAN,AFG,SCO,NEP) South africa(BAN,AFG,SCO,NEP) Grade B Pak(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 1 and 2) WI(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 1 and 3) Sri(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 2 and 3) Ban(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 4 and 5) Afg(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 4 and 5) Grade C Ire(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 1 and 2 ) Zim(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 1 and 3) Ned(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 2 and 3) Sco(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 4 and 5 ) Nepal(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 4 and 5)
@@Killjoy1204 test series of 3 matches can also be more interesting if first test match is played with red ball and second test match played with first 2 sessions with red ball and last session with pink ball and 3 match can be played with pink ball. It will bring some difference in all 3 matches of every series.
@@azhanansari5550 nah that would just be too much! If you say one day night test in 3 match series even then it’s too much for pink ball which has been notoriously difficult to bat against!
@@Killjoy1204 pink ball is difficult to play but may be more due to lack of play with pink ball. Game has to do some thing to be relevant anyway test cricket don't make money if further no steps taken to improve and make test cricket exciting than it will be difficulties ahead for test format
Hi Jarrod. Great stuff. Fantastic data. Couple of observations: 1. You posited about the value of the tests that are played after the series has been decided. I think the dead rubber syndrome is relevant in white ball cricket. Since white ball cricket is seldom as memorable as Tests, the dead rubbers are excruciatingly boring the moment they lose the only context they have: deciding the winner of the series. On the other hand each Test is an event all by itself. Yes series wins are precious. But ‘dead rubbers’ are far more meaningful in Tests. And that is because a Test match performance is still the gold standard of a cricketer’s quality and is a primary measure of his/her worth as a cricketer for posterity. So even for WTC, the ‘dead’ matches cannot be looked with the same lens as one might a 5050/2020. Second, methinks BCCI has concluded that they will treat Tests as the instrument to perpetuate cricketing prowess and legacy; and have white ball as the cash generator. We will see more steps taken in this regard once we come to grips with the pandemic. What do you think? Cheers! Pat
That's what he meant with the ridiculousness of the system, basically the WTC league system was dropped on top of the FTP, and it still continues as the current FTP is 2018-2023
Tbh Wtc shouldn't be held among 9 teams, 5 teams at the most keeps the intensity and suspense to a decent level. I don't know if the Big 3 will accept this, as it risks one of them being left out if a string of poor performances plummets their position, but ideally after the conclusion of the championship season, the top 3 teams automatically qualify for the next season, and the bottom 2 teams have to partake in a window of qualification. The idea I came up with, for this is: The two teams will play a home test match against the two highest ranked/best performing teams who failed to qualify for the previous championship. So if England finishes at 4th they will play the second best team who did not play in the championship, while the 5th team will play against the first. It would be an exciting scenario, as the teams who did not qualify for the previous season, can earn their spot for the next, by defeating the current occupants in the latter's home ground. Of course that would be very challenging, and that's the beauty of this model. With the intensity and standards contrived by this structure to be at a high level, the competition can earn a reputation of being one of the most hard fought, perhaps even the most prized trophy in cricket. Of course this side lines the smaller teams, but let's accept one central fact- cricket has already over extented itself, first of by introducing new and shorter formats, that are designed to allow for frequent upsets and exciting results, and secondly by establishing these invented formats into leagues and hot-cash events. These are popular among the general public, and the sport's best shot of increasing it's international spheres is through these formats. Now while all of these innovations and market-researched additions are diluting the true nature and spirit of the sport, wouldn't it be refreshing to see test matches in it's pristine form, between capable teams, taking on each other, with very little room to breathe. Just Imagine Australia first playing England in the ashes series, than say a team like Pakistan in away matches, later taking on India in the subcontinent, and then finally inviting their tasman neighbours into a 4 match series. Though, the Big 3 here will be the favourites to prevail, the other two teams are quite formidable in their own respect. It would be a serious hit, and in my humble opinion, this is the direction Test cricket and World Test championship should head at.
I found it weird how we played and bet England in two series home and away and neither counted do the whole thing is a bit weird like that 🤷♂️ At the end of the day they may have lost to Sri Lanka and Australia away but they best a hell of a lot of good teams along the way. It sucks being a black caps fan and knowing that this golden generation of players aren’t playing as many tests as they deserve to be , and after 2019 which we lost due to an acknowledged umpiring error, it was just time something fell their way
All are good points, but one thing remains unchanged, cricket is a business and the money ICC makes outside of your so called "Big three" is minimal. So to develop the sport they have to do which earns more money. ICC does fund smaller teams, smaller than Zimbabwe, the funds come from major tournaments happening in the big three location. Because anywhere else, you won't get the that much revenue to help the system.
I know New Zealand cant really afford more than two tests a series at home. Does that include series against the "big three" or is it just that those countries don't really want to play more than a two match series against the Kiwis home or away?
NZ should really be playing three test series against "the big three" (I know they did in Aus). Three tests between them and SA would be a good series as well. I just hate a team so good playing 2 match series as they're usually for the teams which supposedly aren't very good.
@@joshforde698 NZ actually begged the aussies to cancel the planned third test (to be played in Auckland) on Australia's last tour of NZ. So it's up to kiwi cricket fans to put pressure on their cricket board to schedule more tests, and show up to the games, watch on tv, purchase pay tv to watch them etc.
Short series aren't necessarily an advantage. If India v Aus and Ind v Eng were 2 test series, they would've both finished 1-1. It's not easy, even for the big teams, to start a series at 100%. At least India didn't lose many points from one game and had time in the series to make a comeback and earn the necessary points to qualify. So in a short series, one bad game or even one bad session or 2 can cost 60 points. Even a draw means a team loses 40 points. India getting 36 all out only cost them 30 points. New Zealand went into their last summer knowing they had to win all their matches. They couldn't even let one game go to a draw. Game 1 vs Pakistan goes to the last session and you can see how badly NZ wanted to win that one.
What good is the Big 3 if the rest are uncompetitive? There's a huge risk that the rest of us never become competitive with the Big 3 in future (apart from South Africa) because the rest of us just don't have the financial resources to thrive; survival is the name of the game. So if the Big 3 get too cocky, then have fun playing a 3 team sport. Can hardly sustain 10 nations as it is despite the huge number of collective money in cricket.
I wouldn’t over stress luck. Sport is sport. Things go in your favour. And sometimes they don’t. You must look at things in the long run. And not only look at all the things that went right when you’ve won, but all the things that went right, when you still lost. The reality is as professional sportsmen you accept these things. I have never heard of good pros making excuses one way or the other. They accept things that are in front of them (I.e the given schedule) and get on with it. After the tournament then they can make suggestions to modifications etc but during a given tournament, they accept the conditions and the best team wins. That’s how pros play sport. And is the difference, in my opinion between, fans/players who play for leisure on the weekend, and professionals. The amount of excuses I hear on the weekend playing club cricket vs the changing room at the professional level is remarkable.
@@JarrodKimberYT whether it plays a part or not. Professionally sportsman don’t dwell on it because in the long run they assume the best will win more (or score more runs) than those that are not as good. To say we could have won this tournament if that team lost, or we won the toss last match, or one of players didn’t get injured. Every team / individual can change the conditions into alternate scenarios where they would have won. It’s pointless to dwell on those things. Otherwise sports would be pointless
@@JarrodKimberYT Even with the T20 World Cup next year, that's only 2 international tournaments since 1992. England and to a lesser degree India are the ones who host too much, not Australia. You also didn't say anything about Women's tournaments when you brought up hosting monopolies. As for New Zealand supposedly missing out on the final in 2015, would you really pass up an opportunity to have a one day world cup final at a full MCG over Eden Park? Which is hardly a great cricket ground. New Zealand should host a T20 final, not a one day final.
Short series != more points. as much as I've always disliked 2 match series, which is an annoyance to many, many NZ fans. But I don't understand the small series argument. With same points per series, a 2 match series or a five match series against weaker opponents would yield the same result. And almost all teams have a better record home than away, not to forget the two series NZ won vs England, neither of which counted for WTC points. The teams are both in the final on merit, which given self-interested governance of the game is a genuine surprise.
@@JarrodKimberYT NZ played league games in NZ and qualified for the finals in 2015, srilanka played league games in SL and qualified for the finals, so that doesn't count as a home advantage, I don't get it 🤷🏽♂️
@@rahulharisings i think the point is (partly), the world cup wouldnt have been held in just SL and Bangladesh, India had to be included... likewise, the world cup wouldnt be held in just NZ
At this point, South Africa and NZ should just join hands and combine teams to destroy all of the big 3. I mean sure Australia, England and India may win most tournaments, but when we see SA or NZ succeding, we all want them to win even if its against our own teams. That’s what sport is all about isn’t it? Unpredictability.
yeah any team could have done this but that does not make my comment a false statement... that's just one of the fallacies of WTC...big 3 will play longer series among themselves...India played just one 2 match home series (NZ played the most) against Bangladesh and Stuart Broad was already salty about it saying why India is getting more points from a win vs BD and here Eng has to work harder in long series in Ashes where 1 match has less points
@@doctorjoy2688 we cannot call it easiest route. You get 60 points for winning a match, but at the same time you lose 60 points for losing. Think of this, if the strong Indian time had won 1 match in NZ, they would have lost 60 points. Let alone that, the penultimate over win against Pakistan could have been a draw and they would have lost 40 points. So there is equal risk of gaining and losing points in short series.
@@siddhantjaiswal9115 It IS the easiest route if it is a home series. Ind has very bad record in NZ and that series was nowhere close...NZ just squashed Ind. Harsha Bhogle said it many times in cricbuzz that the easiest route to qualify is to play more and more 2 match home test series. The probability of winning a home test is much more than losing
Every big 3/4/5 team should have to adopt a lower ranked team according to the geography/logistics and improve them.....india/Afghanistan, west indies/Namibia, s.a./Zimbabwe, Australia/whatever they choose, england/Ireland or Scotland (if they agree)
I've been supporting and watching NZ cricket matches since the early 90's, there's been some dark times in there for sure, but the period from 2014-2021 was definitely a high point, and when that team ran out in the WTC final, I saw a solid lineup, no weak points. Like holy crap we have a bit of a juggernaut team atm where players who would have been first choice selections 20 years ago can't even make the team. BUT! That final win did feel very hollow to me, and I'll explain why, you did tap into it in this video, the competition ended up flawed due to covid. Before the covid outbreak, we were at a position where we couldn't qualify for the final, effectively eliminated. That covid outbreak, and the way things were allocated after changed everything. In 2019/2020 I watched our team get absolutely destroyed by Australia in 3 tests in Australia. We didn't go tour South Africa or the subcontinent, things just really fell into our favour. Not to say what our team achieved was a complete fluke, because in our final tests at home, we played what was in front of us, had to win them all, and did. And also go up against the might of India in the final, and we beat them comfortably (albeit in conditions that suited us much more than them, and the advantage of having just played a series there against England) But to say we were the best team in the world....that's where it was hollow. We weren't, and never have been. Until we win series in Australia and South Africa and India, then we can start talking. Things just really fell into favour for us. Also I really enjoyed this video, as it came across completely unbiased. Brilliant content and look forward to watching more
So, NZ was able to go to England and beat them 1-0 (and probably would have been 2-0 if it wasn't for rain), and yet you are worried about NZ playing Bangladesh who are really struggling at the moment? That doesn't really stack up, sorry.
NZ might not be able to beat Australia, but we can beat teams that beat Australia. More proof that its not a lack of skill, but a choking/little brother complex. But one thing that people always forget is that while 1 win in a 2 match series is worth 60 points, a loss grants 60 points to another team. Which then means you have to win a match from a 2 match series just to counter act that, or more than 1 test in a 3+ series. It is greater reward, but also greater risk. Australia might win the first test of the Ashes for only points. But then England have 4 more matches to undo that. NZ lost the first test to Sri Lanka. Now they have one test to undo that.
Really happy for nz , once again exposing the those fraudulent overrated flat track bullies top order of india who have not shown up in any icc final since 2011 , remember 2013 champions trophy , indian bowlers defended 132 in the final , this top order will only turn up for paytm trophies.
Not sure about, "... flat track bullies...". That may be the case historically. I'm not sure though, that the tag applies to the current team. They comfortably won the 2020/21 series, in Australia. The top order batsmen you mentioned, all completed the series with healthy averages: cricket.yahoo.net/series/india-tour-of-australia-202021-1555/stats
If Australia played half the tests that they do and still didn't make it to the final would they still be saying that playing shorter series is a "massive advantage"?
@@JarrodKimberYT I just think it's funny to see you give them so much gib to be honest mate. It was never going to be perfect, especially with covid. I'm not always NZ's biggest fan even, but I do think they deserve more credit than you gave them there. Notably, they just won a series in England (have to point out that Aus drew their last), and a home series against India even! They've been consistent over the last 3-4 seasons while Aus has been far from that, with England mostly bad. Of course, the one knock on this Blackcaps team is that they haven't won a series against Aus, unlike Hadlee's team. On form though, I have to say that is coming. Look at how good Conway and Jamieson are. They're the pieces that have been missing.
@@andrewbagshaw3095 Australia has lost interest in cricket. All the best athletes go to other more popular sports like AFL nowdays. Its a shadow of its former self.
@@Sothpawman Could be right over the long term but Australian cricket's surveys have reported pretty strong numbers at times in recent years. I think it has decreased here in NZ, as competitions near me have shrunk, and spectator numbers have dropped from full grounds for tests in the 80s to just a couple of thousand at some venues. I also found some statistics to the effect that participation is lower in England compared to a few years ago. I believe it is growing in the subcontinent and also in some odd places like Germany due to large numbers of subcontinent immigrants.
I think its the country's political set up that is shown through the cricket administration. Sri Lankan cricket's rapid slippery slope is coinsided with the rapid political, financial and social decline of the country as a whole
Well, The Big3 also put money in the pockets of ICC. India alone contribute more than 60-70% of revenue earned by ICC. Nobody should be having any problem with them taking the amount of money which they obviously take from ICC. And nobody asks questions to how smaller cricket boards are run, BCCI gets abused for the smallest of mistakes while South African Cricket board is not suspended even after govt intervention and did I mentioned the corruption in Bangladesh and Lankan Cricket boards? I personally have no hatred towards BCCI as what they did was and is best for Indian cricket and their share is justified as they put more than than they take from ICC. Some Indians fans who hate BCCI for this practice are also the same folks who will abuse BCCI if India doesn't perform well in away tours.
at 10:28 ur wrong.. Bangladesh have never beaten India in any test..infact they have lost all tests by big margins..and two were drawn just cz of rain..otherwise BD would have lost them too
NZ WINING EVERYTHING THEY WON THE AMERICAS CUP CRICKET TEST CHAMPIONS RUGBY CHAMPIONS Auckland NZ the most liveable city on earth and NZL number 1 covid safe spot in the world
It's just like a business. It takes incredible skills to really figure out what are the flaws which need to be rectified and how much you can invest in changing those things to get rewards. NZ board did incredible job in using their limited resources but it's not easy
So, fittingly and deservedly they won the WTC final by a comfortable margin.
This actually made me a little emotional to watch and hear a student of the game provide a fair and balanced appraisal of the NZ cricket team. Thank you.
Why emotional?
@@mikespearwood3914 because NZ gets treated as an afterthought by the world cricket media (Jrood has mentioned that has to do with revenue - they're not box office for media) or their achievements have been dismissed as fluky or an aberration. The whole myth of NZ greentops is due to overseas media not having a clue about how the pitches actually play and why they are so green looking - they don't actually seam that much - and they don't detreiorate at anywhere near the rate other countries do . Basically Most overseas cricket media and journos could have their knoweldge of NZ summed up by this:
Greentops, Hobbits, Rugby - very few have bothered to look any further than the match scoreboards
@@panzerschreckpete Yes I am glad you brought that point. I remember Simon Doull making a point saying they have tried everything and realised it's best to have a green top where it gets good for batting on day 4 and 5 but you have to be very cautious early on. . .
To be fair, NZ treats its own team like an afterthought. So many Kiwis I know don't care about the Blackcaps
@@mwilkins1644 That is because of how the game is administered in NZ. Furthermore Union and league dominate the sporting landscape in a country of 5m
Simply brilliant
Hello Norman, just switched here after listening to the aussies' reaction on the wtc final on your channel
Ayy you here
happy for NZ for winning the championship congrats !!
they are able to make finals of many of the ICC championships which speaks for itself.
This is so meta: the nicest weirdguy in cricket punditry, on the nicest weirdguys in cricket. All our eternal heroworship JROD - your fans since the Age of #CricketWithBalls :)
Calling wierd and praising at the same time
Nerd or geek are perhaps the words you are looking for
What went right, was the kiwis played the game how it should be played!
With the highest possible level of sportsmanship, total commitment to the TEAM, outstanding and selfless leadership, great coaching and support staff, and lastly, the admiration of the entire country for representing us as we would like ourselves to be showcased to the rest of the sporting world.
We love to win, but we don’t do it by cheating, by sledging the man at the crease, by intimidating the umpires or insulting the viewers perception of sport. We enjoy a great game, be it cricket, rugby, netball, sailing, rowing or whatever, and when the game is over, we don’t sulk if we lose, or gloat if we win, ….
New Zealanders just want to enjoy the moment, commiserate with the losing team, or congratulate the winners, get along with everyone and look forward to the next contest!
And most of all we celebrate living and playing sport, doing business or enjoying our quality of life in the happiest country on earth - bar none!
Pretty straight forward, honest and straight - simple really!
Oh and every now and then we win the big ones - World Cup of Test Cricket, Olympic medals, Rugby World Cups, Americas Cup etc and DON’T we celebrate with everyone when do do enjoy success!!!
Easy as bro’ …
Big praise for Ian McKendry, NZ cricket head curator !,
Sour grapes?
@@Paleos1000 Lol!! He's speaking the truth!!
Loved the analysis, Jarod. NZ have surely done enough to warrant a place in the WTC final and my respect for them have increased manifold.
Great video....after the heartbreak that NZ suffered in 2019 world cup final, they deserve this luck. Being an Indian fan even if NZ wins the WTC, I will be happy for them.
So you are happy
@@vishwajeetnandyaduraj4804 they are the deserving winners cause they played better cricket in this match...so I am satisfied
Don't worry, this may be the only time NZ wins the WTC in our lifetimes, but I'm willing to bet a lot of money that India will win multiple times in the next few decades.
@@wgoulding well India haven't won any ICC trophy since last winning 2013 Champions Trophy. Don't know how long this wait will continue...but congrats New Zealand...they deserve it! I hope this WTC win inspires children in NZ to pickup cricket as sport.
Respect
New Zealand: Small, yet perfectly formidable. No wonder they call their Captain "steady the ship".
This dude makes content worth GOLD. I cannot understand how is he not more popular, I don't know anyone who makes so much sense when talking about cricket!!!
You must travel the streets telling people about me.
@@JarrodKimberYT I surely will, once the pandemic is over 😅
Everything around the WTC over the last 2 years and also emphasizing the rise of New Zealand Cricket summarized in the best way. M so sharing this everywhere among those who are even mild fans of test cricket. Thanks Jarrod for this, Really finding your Channel was the best cricketing thing happened to me this year :)
This is one of the best videos on this channel! I really want India to win but if India loses in the WTC finals, it'll be one hell of a story. New ICC cup holders, who aren't among the Big Three and aren't defending champions of another ICC trophy. Ofc on the day of the potential loss, I'll be pissed in that moment, but once the dust settles, I'll definitely give a round of applause to NZ.
ICC have immediately taken note and changed to all tests having the same points. Another note is that Australia making the final would've been even more farcical; one overseas series and lost a series at home
They are continuing with the percentage system. So teams playing shorter series still has the advantage.
@@basileldho9846 Teams playing fewer tests are at an advantage and a disadvantage at the same time. One win can boost their percentage while one loss can plummet their chances.
@@umangjain5460 For them, recovery from a plummet would be easier. But for big 3, it will hard as
1. Each match they play account for a smaller percentage than non-big 3 teams
2. They play against each other more often which makes winning that much more harder.
Big 3 will be at an advantage if they decide to play more 2 match series with smaller teams.
Percentage system will still favour teams playing shorter series
@@basileldho9846 Then we should give all sides the same number of tests
Compared to the NBA and the way Football leagues are governed around the globe, Cricket has been very poorly managed and governed with the ICC being a sycophant to the Big 3.
It's disappointing that with so many countries playing the sport, the CWC is still restricted to 10-14 teams. . .
Meanwhile I adore the way NZ board manages their players and allows their players to play in overseas tournaments especially when they are not required for national duty.
In last 3 WC, they have punched above their weights when it mattered the most by knocking out the favourites in SA and India in 2011,2015 and 2019 WC.
That is because the NBA and football leagues are run. Before this the ICC never even tried to run Tests.
@@JarrodKimberYT True !!
You never know what the future holds
Cricket does have the potential to be a big sport if managed well
NZ Cricket have no choice NZ players need the exposure, experience and the income. Because we do not play a lot of international cricket.
NZ deserved some good luck I reckon after 2019 WC.
Fantastic walkthrough. Appreciate all the effort you put into this.
Great video Jarrod, Thanks for making it!
What a remarkable journey and achievement, on ya boys you have done us proud
Wow. Great summary. Thanks& one extra sub.
NZ though being a part of cricket setup for this long is a small cricketing nation makes me think if my country ( an associate) would fit into the "micro" cricketing nation. If NZ had such difficultly to make their way to challenge the top countries, there is no way an associate nation can challenge the established nations with the limited funds. And because they can't challenge, ICC limits finance even more and the cycle continues.
Great video as always.
I think that associate nations probably shouldn’t expect to become test playing nations. However, I think that it maybe possible to get closer to challenge the full members in ODI cricket and maybe T20I.
I personally would love it if Hong Kong, Netherlands or Kenya could challenge the main nations (How Kenya declined I do not know). People will root for Afghanistan going forward the same way they rooted for Zimbabwe during their golden period.
I think that that is the best an associate nation can hope for. Maybe giving more nations ODI status is needed, but I don’t know.
All Indians I talk to get really angry at 'Ind has 1 billion population talk' and even at the Idea of Ind having better resources because they don't want any caveats in regards to Ind's success...
Really lovely vid jarrod always waiting for more.
It is annoying when it is used as a point to divert from the on field brilliance and used as an excuse for losing especially by Aus or Eng. NZ has much less population than Aus or Eng so they can't use this same excuse when they lose to NZ...and many Indians have NZ as their 2nd favourite team
Man, it's still 11v11, if your system isn't good enough the population count doesn't matter, for so many years, India's system was so bad that's why we struggled to win series in aus, south africa and so on. If the system is quite good, your team will shine
Because that is stupid logic ..
Any country with 200 cricketers can have 25 very good cricketers
You dont need billion people for that
As frustrating as it is , we do worse than country like Jamaica in Olympics.
The population doesn't come handy there.
We win because we are passionate ,dedicated and good at it..
Its 11 vs 11 on the field and they are given similar opportunities.
Loving the NZ love from an Aussie at the moment.
Here for that Trans-Tasman love
Your analysing stuff and the stats you show all are amazing to watch plz doing the good job for us the KIWI fans ❤️
Excellent analysis
Oh wow, my man has uploaded! Time for 22 minutes of educational entertainment, exactly what I was looking for while I begin doing my dishes.
Excellent analysis, Jarrod. World cricket looks like an oligarchy serving interests of India, England and Australia.
The 10-team world cup with round robin format only helped these 3 earn big chunk of money. And NZ spoiled this revenue party by knocking out India in semis.
Similarly, World Test Championship Final was supposed to feature 2 out of the big 3. At least that is what ICC would have hoped for. NZ had no business to be in the finals before covid. But due to all the weird things that have happened, NZ have reached there.
ICC have also ensured that there will be one ICC tournament each year till 2031. Wonder what lies ahead for bilateral series, when every year 2 months will go into IPL and 1-1.5 month into ICC tournament.
the big 3 initially opposed icc tournament every year as the bilateral series are profitable for big 3...it is the smaller nations that need icc tournaments more ..and by increasing the number of teams that can participate in world cup...icc is actually thinking about the smaller nations
@@doctorjoy2688 Agree with you. ICC tournaments are good for smaller nations. And good that they have increased no. of teams. I feel that top players from big 3 will only focus on IPL, ICC tournaments and bilateral series with top teams.
Also, the move by ICC to host a tournament every year might be a way of increasing their revenue from broadcasters.
@@feeltheheat824 yes...true. But I personally like the fact that the Champions Trophy is back.
Who is making money by playing cricket? It's the Big3 while other nations are either returning a loss or no profit, heck,even Bangladesh isn't turning a profit. Stop pretending that other countries are contributing any substantial amount, Jarrod won't say how much the Big3 contributes to ICC revenues because even he knows that mentioning the fact that more than 90% money earned by ICC is from Big3(70% alone from India) will mean that whatever point he makes about fucking equality etc goes into gutter and idiots like you will be ignoring the fact just like him. If anything, that situation is funny that you guys piss on Big3 but without Big3, cricket will not even be sustainable.
@@feeltheheat824 That's what Kevin Petersen literally said, all he remembers about his international career the runs scored against Australia & India.
loved your coverage here jarrod. would have loved to know your opinion on the pundits blaming the county cricket system for england's loss but the same county system transformed an average marnus labuschagne into australia's backbone in just one or two season.
The county system is completely different to an overseas player. It's a chance to hone your own skills in the toughest place to play seam against a really good and varied collection of players. But if it's your only form of learning cricket, like most first class systems, it's one dimensional.
While you can pick up a lot of points quickly from shorter series, I do think you fail to mention that a bad day at the office can be extremely costly ... and this did arguably happen to NZ in Sri Lanka in the first test of their series. Played exactly a month after the 2019 World Cup final, understandably they didn't look in the right frame of mind to be playing test cricket - I remember Trent Boult dropping the most ridiculously easy caught and bowled of all time. And from that - boom, half the series points gone. If it was a 3, 4 or 5 test series, they could have come back and still got a big haul of points from the series. So I think in a way the shorter series can also add a lot of pressure - you have to be up for it from ball one. Apart from that, another great video! :D
Nice video Jarrod, one thing I do find funny as a kiwi is the amount of scrutiny about us only doing well at home etc. I still remember the last 20 years we spent down at 7-8 in the rankings and regularly getting rolled for 100 in home tests.
Don't worry this happens to everyone. Not so long ago, India too were called home track bullies
Don't forget the narrative that New Zealand only wins at home because they prepare green seaming wickets - despite the fact New Zealand batted first in three of the four matches they won against the Windies and Pakistan to make the final and scored at least 400 each time. In the other they scored over 650 batting second and won by an innings.
The system may have favoured the small teams but personally I don't think many can argue that the two teams in WTC Final are not the best two sides (Coming from an England fan, but I can admit we're pretty rubbish atm)
I think that's pretty fair.
I always find it surprising how SL often plays some of the most international cricket a year...
They pack a lot it.
This is good stuff. Great video.
A lot of this 'luck' coming our way actually favored Australia more, so it's interesting that they are the loudest when it comes to us being lucky to be there. When you look at the table and how things have panned out, we actually fully deserved to be there being comfortably the second best team, so the only thing that went right really was that we won tests, something completely in our control. Also the 4 points docked from Aussie for a slow over rate, so cheers Tim Paine.
Nick Corbett
Yeah, At 36 Tim Paine can't have many games left for aussie but his captaincy (or lack of it) was a big factor why they didn't get into the final, along with his mouth...
Keep him there Australia!
😂👍
You forgot about the 4 points penalty Aus got for slow over rate at MCG. Without penalty Aus would have qualified - for having more wins at same pct points.
I thought that would be a part of it, as in the end this was the main point and aus cancelling the tour of sa, which was just shameful
@@anubhav111196 nah it wasn't shameful at all, more like sensible, SA had a mutated covid strain at the time.
@@poo-tinthedwarfbunkerb1tch535 it was shameful, cricket Australia never had the intention of sending the team there, but they didn't hesitate from making requests and requests and csa naively kept fulfilling these absurd requests, csa bent over backwards to fullfill cricket Australia's requests, if you didn't intended to go from the start, then why did you made these requests, they basically played CSA, it was just shameful. Ipl was played in india despite india going through the 2nd wave, and Australian contingent to sa was smaller than the no. of foreign players in ipl, just shameful behaviour by Cricket Australia
@@anubhav111196 the 2nd wave in india only began after the ipl was already underway which is why it was suspended mid tournament, whereas the covid situation in Sa was apparent beforehand, so it's obvious as to why they chose to skip it, and even if australia had gone through with the tour, they would've won pretty handily anyway given the enormous gulf in standards.
@@poo-tinthedwarfbunkerb1tch535 what would've happened if they had toured isn't the question, why didn't they tour after making such requests, and it's ridiculous you're defending, every expert on Australian side ridiculed Ca for deciding to skip the tour. And ipl was only halted mid way because players and staff started to get infected. Ipl started on April 9, india reported 150,000 cases on April 9, it's all about priority, cricket Australia doesn't want to have a feud with bcci, but they have no problem in staring one with CSA. It was shameful decision by ca, sorry I won't argue anymore
This is most underrated sports channel , sorry Jarrod :(
New Zealand don't tour away enough, they last toured south Africa in 2016, last toured india in 2016, their tour of Australia last year was after five years, Australia hasn't toured new zealand since 2016, the ICC world test championship should actually have teams be tested home and away (away victories should ideally count for more points) against quality opposition, if it cant be done in 2 years take 3 years, but there needs to be a proper test of ur skills across conditions in relatively equal manner between the teams to decide the finalists
Completely Agree 👏
it's easy to say but organizing test series for NZ is difficult because of limited financial output from them. they play 2 test match series and then play 5 match t20 series to basically compensate the profits.
Are the big 3 preventing cricket on reforming cricket tournaments to make them more standardised, like the NHL/NFL etc..?
Way to rub it in Jarrod, Congo to your team, much deserved.
Victoria did not win the WTC
Let's go New Zealand!!!!!
ICC has failed to increase reach of cricket to more nations. Look at other sports like football, basketball. So many countries play it whereas cricket has always revolved around 3-4 teams who play quality one. Had more focus gone into the associate countries, cricket could have developed much more than what it has.
ICC actually grew cricket pretty well considering they've never been in charge. It's the teams who haven't helped grow cricket. And cricket is now far bigger globally than it has ever been.
@@JarrodKimberYT I think I can agree on that part. Thanks Jarrod, you are a true student of sport.
The quality of associate cricket is in fact better than its ever been
Revenue generation from these countries will take time but will happen
Let's hope for the best
We did it!!!!!!!!
Congrats! Well deserved!
World test championship will benefit smaller team. What I feel big 3 will play each other in test match more often and they weir off there own points and as a result there will be most probably only one among big 3 will be in final in coming year for WTC in coming years just like WTC2021...
Last 4 years Bangladesh has 5 wins, NZ has 17. Bangladesh averages 25 with the bat, NZ 39. This is a incredibly wrong take
Wow...good channel
The best intro!!
Hi Jarrod, do you think anything will change much now Greg Barclay is in charge who is from NZ so he may try and give more support to smaller nations?
No one is really in charge. Not even the BCCI, that is part of the problem.
Amazing man....really wish the Kiwis rough up the big threes a little more....would be poetic
Who are the big 3?
@@tukingi4183 check the video mate...it's Australia ,England and India
There's another angle that is entirely neglected, a little money goes a long way in NZ. They have the population of one fifth of Mumbai, and the BCCI has a population of 1.3 billion to administer over. The scale of cricket in India is vast compared to tiny nations, and the budget they need to provide resources to administer and operate cricket in a vast country like India, not just population but also geographic scale, is proportionally greater.
@jk when are we seeing an epic vid on the kiwi WTC win ...
And now they’re world champions
New Zealand is defined as a State of Australia in Australia's constitution... so technically another win for Australia! (and the big 3)
No it's not, there is an option for NZ to become a state and we told ya to piss off 125 years ago.
@@timmyb7734 "The States shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, including the northern territory of South Australia"
Hand it over Jacinta
@@timmyb7734 Its funny Timmy, because you've tried your best to be Australians by stealth for the last 40+ years! XD
Perhaps if everyone played 3-test series instead of 5-test series we would all get to play each other more.
New Zealand also beat England 2/0 at home during this period but the points didn’t go to NZ because the series was announced after the WTC started...also NZ missed the chance to beat Bangladesh at home because of the shootings in Christchurch....deserved finalists......😎
Even Australia dropping 4 points for slow over rate helped NZ. Otherwise Australia would have had higher percentage of points. Fair play to NZ though. They made the best of their opportunities.
Yeah, I suppose that is less luck and more how the competition played out. But yes.
Great video
Maybe the *last* two tests of every series, be it two, three or five-long, should count (and others shouldn't)? It would help with "dead rubber" matches.
I'm also in favour of away teams automatically winning the toss, so tosses only happen in neutral venues.
And speaking as an NZer, some form of revenue sharing from overseas series would be incredibly helpful. NZ Cricket loses a serious chunk of money for each home test. That's a major reason test series in NZ tend to be so short. :(
Today,I found that Nz are unlucky and due to the greed of the big three,they haven't won any icc tournament in recent times
Well, I think Sri Lanka has been the more unfortunate team, just think about it like this, Sri Lanka qualified for final in 2007, 2011 world cup, 2009, 2012,2014(which they won eventually) T20 world cups. And new Zealand has always qualified for atleast semis in 50 over world cups which is so brilliant, kudos to them.
For Test cricket
There should be 3 divisions.(A, B, C)
Each division should have 5 teams.
Division A Team will play against their division team 2 home and 2 away series of 3 matches. (process same for division B and division C as well)
Then after this, division A teams will play 2 series one home and one away with division B teams according to ranking (team standing no 1 in division B will get to play series with team standing at 1 and 2 division A) and same with division C will also get 2 series with division A and Division B teams.
So this way accordingly after completing this whole cycle the standing teams in each cycle will be promoted and relegated.
Division B no 1 team will directly be promoted and 5 th team on division A will be relegated and team standing at 2nd in division B will play series of three matches with team standing at 4th in division A, neutral venue to decide their division. (I know it is little bit complicated but I am also seeing commercial angle because there will be some intensity among A and B division teams to be in top of the is table so that they get to play series with big teams which will help them to find sponser.)
According to this. Every team will play total 8 series of 3 matches each. (4 among there division and 2 in both divisions each). This should be done in 3 yrs time
After this top two teams of division A should play a 3 match series for world test championship at one venue and winner will be crowned as champion. @jarrodkimber
I lost you at half way, too much complicated! Just make it simple after 4 series 5th rank team relegates and 1st team gets promoted and Top 4 team will get price money!
@@Killjoy1204 it is not at all complicated you have to reward series with big teams to grade B and grade C teams so that they can get sponser.
Every team will play within their grade 4 series 2 home and 2 away then acoonding to their standing suppose(in this order they finish the first cycle)
Grade A
INDIA (PAK. WI, IRE, ZIM)
ENG (PAK, SRI. IRE, NED)
AUS (WI, SRI,ZIM,NED)
Nz(BAN,AFG,SCO,NEP)
South africa(BAN,AFG,SCO,NEP)
Grade B
Pak(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 1 and 2)
WI(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 1 and 3)
Sri(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 2 and 3)
Ban(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 4 and 5)
Afg(They get series with grade A and C teams finishing 4 and 5)
Grade C
Ire(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 1 and 2 )
Zim(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 1 and 3)
Ned(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 2 and 3)
Sco(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 4 and 5 )
Nepal(They get series with grade A and B teams finishing 4 and 5)
@@Killjoy1204 test series of 3 matches can also be more interesting if first test match is played with red ball and second test match played with first 2 sessions with red ball and last session with pink ball and 3 match can be played with pink ball. It will bring some difference in all 3 matches of every series.
@@azhanansari5550 nah that would just be too much! If you say one day night test in 3 match series even then it’s too much for pink ball which has been notoriously difficult to bat against!
@@Killjoy1204 pink ball is difficult to play but may be more due to lack of play with pink ball. Game has to do some thing to be relevant anyway test cricket don't make money if further no steps taken to improve and make test cricket exciting than it will be difficulties ahead for test format
Hi Jarrod. Great stuff. Fantastic data.
Couple of observations:
1. You posited about the value of the tests that are played after the series has been decided. I think the dead rubber syndrome is relevant in white ball cricket. Since white ball cricket is seldom as memorable as Tests, the dead rubbers are excruciatingly boring the moment they lose the only context they have: deciding the winner of the series. On the other hand each Test is an event all by itself. Yes series wins are precious. But ‘dead rubbers’ are far more meaningful in Tests. And that is because a Test match performance is still the gold standard of a cricketer’s quality and is a primary measure of his/her worth as a cricketer for posterity. So even for WTC, the ‘dead’ matches cannot be looked with the same lens as one might a 5050/2020.
Second, methinks BCCI has concluded that they will treat Tests as the instrument to perpetuate cricketing prowess and legacy; and have white ball as the cash generator. We will see more steps taken in this regard once we come to grips with the pandemic. What do you think?
Cheers!
Pat
omg ur son grew so much at the blink of an eye
What happened to the concept of the FTP? Wasnt that something decided amongst all the countries in a fair way to cover all teams playing each other?
That's what he meant with the ridiculousness of the system, basically the WTC league system was dropped on top of the FTP, and it still continues as the current FTP is 2018-2023
And NZ didn’t need sandpaper and still 🏆 🏆 won
Tbh Wtc shouldn't be held among 9 teams, 5 teams at the most keeps the intensity and suspense to a decent level. I don't know if the Big 3 will accept this, as it risks one of them being left out if a string of poor performances plummets their position, but ideally after the conclusion of the championship season, the top 3 teams automatically qualify for the next season, and the bottom 2 teams have to partake in a window of qualification. The idea I came up with, for this is:
The two teams will play a home test match against the two highest ranked/best performing teams who failed to qualify for the previous championship. So if England finishes at 4th they will play the second best team who did not play in the championship, while the 5th team will play against the first. It would be an exciting scenario, as the teams who did not qualify for the previous season, can earn their spot for the next, by defeating the current occupants in the latter's home ground. Of course that would be very challenging, and that's the beauty of this model. With the intensity and standards contrived by this structure to be at a high level, the competition can earn a reputation of being one of the most hard fought, perhaps even the most prized trophy in cricket. Of course this side lines the smaller teams, but let's accept one central fact- cricket has already over extented itself, first of by introducing new and shorter formats, that are designed to allow for frequent upsets and exciting results, and secondly by establishing these invented formats into leagues and hot-cash events. These are popular among the general public, and the sport's best shot of increasing it's international spheres is through these formats. Now while all of these innovations and market-researched additions are diluting the true nature and spirit of the sport, wouldn't it be refreshing to see test matches in it's pristine form, between capable teams, taking on each other, with very little room to breathe. Just Imagine Australia first playing England in the ashes series, than say a team like Pakistan in away matches, later taking on India in the subcontinent, and then finally inviting their tasman neighbours into a 4 match series. Though, the Big 3 here will be the favourites to prevail, the other two teams are quite formidable in their own respect. It would be a serious hit, and in my humble opinion, this is the direction Test cricket and World Test championship should head at.
I found it weird how we played and bet England in two series home and away and neither counted do the whole thing is a bit weird like that 🤷♂️ At the end of the day they may have lost to Sri Lanka and Australia away but they best a hell of a lot of good teams along the way. It sucks being a black caps fan and knowing that this golden generation of players aren’t playing as many tests as they deserve to be , and after 2019 which we lost due to an acknowledged umpiring error, it was just time something fell their way
I agree in order to make cricket global game we need to be more inclusive
Yes
All are good points, but one thing remains unchanged, cricket is a business and the money ICC makes outside of your so called "Big three" is minimal. So to develop the sport they have to do which earns more money. ICC does fund smaller teams, smaller than Zimbabwe, the funds come from major tournaments happening in the big three location. Because anywhere else, you won't get the that much revenue to help the system.
I know New Zealand cant really afford more than two tests a series at home. Does that include series against the "big three" or is it just that those countries don't really want to play more than a two match series against the Kiwis home or away?
It's a combination of both. But NZ could play bigger series against the mid level teams like them, and they don't.
NZ should really be playing three test series against "the big three" (I know they did in Aus). Three tests between them and SA would be a good series as well. I just hate a team so good playing 2 match series as they're usually for the teams which supposedly aren't very good.
@@joshforde698 NZ actually begged the aussies to cancel the planned third test (to be played in Auckland) on Australia's last tour of NZ. So it's up to kiwi cricket fans to put pressure on their cricket board to schedule more tests, and show up to the games, watch on tv, purchase pay tv to watch them etc.
From NZ: I can’t forget the boundary countback!.
Short series aren't necessarily an advantage. If India v Aus and Ind v Eng were 2 test series, they would've both finished 1-1.
It's not easy, even for the big teams, to start a series at 100%. At least India didn't lose many points from one game and had time in the series to make a comeback and earn the necessary points to qualify.
So in a short series, one bad game or even one bad session or 2 can cost 60 points. Even a draw means a team loses 40 points. India getting 36 all out only cost them 30 points.
New Zealand went into their last summer knowing they had to win all their matches. They couldn't even let one game go to a draw. Game 1 vs Pakistan goes to the last session and you can see how badly NZ wanted to win that one.
New Zealand also beat covid. So we could play all our home games.
To be fair, that didn’t stop other teams.
World Champs baby
What good is the Big 3 if the rest are uncompetitive? There's a huge risk that the rest of us never become competitive with the Big 3 in future (apart from South Africa) because the rest of us just don't have the financial resources to thrive; survival is the name of the game. So if the Big 3 get too cocky, then have fun playing a 3 team sport. Can hardly sustain 10 nations as it is despite the huge number of collective money in cricket.
That's also up to smaller nations to maximise revenue and be more efficient.
I wouldn’t over stress luck. Sport is sport. Things go in your favour. And sometimes they don’t. You must look at things in the long run. And not only look at all the things that went right when you’ve won, but all the things that went right, when you still lost. The reality is as professional sportsmen you accept these things. I have never heard of good pros making excuses one way or the other. They accept things that are in front of them (I.e the given schedule) and get on with it. After the tournament then they can make suggestions to modifications etc but during a given tournament, they accept the conditions and the best team wins. That’s how pros play sport. And is the difference, in my opinion between, fans/players who play for leisure on the weekend, and professionals.
The amount of excuses I hear on the weekend playing club cricket vs the changing room at the professional level is remarkable.
I think luck is under mentioned. It’s a major part of victories, to pretend otherwise is not to report correctly.
@@JarrodKimberYT whether it plays a part or not. Professionally sportsman don’t dwell on it because in the long run they assume the best will win more (or score more runs) than those that are not as good.
To say we could have won this tournament if that team lost, or we won the toss last match, or one of players didn’t get injured. Every team / individual can change the conditions into alternate scenarios where they would have won. It’s pointless to dwell on those things. Otherwise sports would be pointless
The only reason we loss to aus was because we did not have jamieson,mitchell or conway and we dropped our balls,does not help having jeet raval
What a sporting nation NZL is.
As a kiwi The test championship system is perfect and theirs nothing wrong with it
Australia has hosted 1 international tournament this century....
The one where New Zealand were supposed to get the final and didn't. Plus Australia has the next T20 World Cup, and quite a few women's tournaments.
@@JarrodKimberYT Even with the T20 World Cup next year, that's only 2 international tournaments since 1992. England and to a lesser degree India are the ones who host too much, not Australia. You also didn't say anything about Women's tournaments when you brought up hosting monopolies.
As for New Zealand supposedly missing out on the final in 2015, would you really pass up an opportunity to have a one day world cup final at a full MCG over Eden Park? Which is hardly a great cricket ground. New Zealand should host a T20 final, not a one day final.
This video aged well.
Had to have one
Short series != more points.
as much as I've always disliked 2 match series, which is an annoyance to many, many NZ fans.
But I don't understand the small series argument. With same points per series, a 2 match series or a five match series against weaker opponents would yield the same result.
And almost all teams have a better record home than away, not to forget the two series NZ won vs England, neither of which counted for WTC points.
The teams are both in the final on merit, which given self-interested governance of the game is a genuine surprise.
All those small series were bound to pay off one day
@@JarrodKimberYT Certainly saved England some more blushes ;)
@@JarrodKimberYT all those two test series, were the best available preparation for the one-test championship match.
Brilliant
2011 worldcup venues (india,srilanka& Bangladesh) not just india
2015 worldcup venues.
( Australia & Newzealand) not just Australia
Where were the finals?
@@JarrodKimberYT NZ played league games in NZ and qualified for the finals in 2015, srilanka played league games in SL and qualified for the finals, so that doesn't count as a home advantage, I don't get it 🤷🏽♂️
@@rahulharisings i think the point is (partly), the world cup wouldnt have been held in just SL and Bangladesh, India had to be included... likewise, the world cup wouldnt be held in just NZ
And there were T20 world cups in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka
@@rahulharisings You got it wrong mate. The point is, the finals were still played in India and Australia respectively.
I am in a conundrum, I want India to win but I also don't want NZ to lose. Maybe a draw?
At this point, South Africa and NZ should just join hands and combine teams to destroy all of the big 3.
I mean sure Australia, England and India may win most tournaments, but when we see SA or NZ succeding, we all want them to win even if its against our own teams.
That’s what sport is all about isn’t it? Unpredictability.
Ha
To be honest, with Conway and Wagner, NZ and South Africa are in a way combining.
NZ had the easiest route to WTC final by playing the most number of 2 match home series in this WTC cycle
Any team could have done this
Who stopped other nations from playing 2 match test series
yeah any team could have done this but that does not make my comment a false statement... that's just one of the fallacies of WTC...big 3 will play longer series among themselves...India played just one 2 match home series (NZ played the most) against Bangladesh and Stuart Broad was already salty about it saying why India is getting more points from a win vs BD and here Eng has to work harder in long series in Ashes where 1 match has less points
@@doctorjoy2688 we cannot call it easiest route. You get 60 points for winning a match, but at the same time you lose 60 points for losing. Think of this, if the strong Indian time had won 1 match in NZ, they would have lost 60 points. Let alone that, the penultimate over win against Pakistan could have been a draw and they would have lost 40 points. So there is equal risk of gaining and losing points in short series.
@@siddhantjaiswal9115 It IS the easiest route if it is a home series. Ind has very bad record in NZ and that series was nowhere close...NZ just squashed Ind. Harsha Bhogle said it many times in cricbuzz that the easiest route to qualify is to play more and more 2 match home test series. The probability of winning a home test is much more than losing
Every big 3/4/5 team should have to adopt a lower ranked team according to the geography/logistics and improve them.....india/Afghanistan, west indies/Namibia, s.a./Zimbabwe, Australia/whatever they choose, england/Ireland or Scotland (if they agree)
And someone should help Canada
I've been supporting and watching NZ cricket matches since the early 90's, there's been some dark times in there for sure, but the period from 2014-2021 was definitely a high point, and when that team ran out in the WTC final, I saw a solid lineup, no weak points. Like holy crap we have a bit of a juggernaut team atm where players who would have been first choice selections 20 years ago can't even make the team.
BUT! That final win did feel very hollow to me, and I'll explain why, you did tap into it in this video, the competition ended up flawed due to covid. Before the covid outbreak, we were at a position where we couldn't qualify for the final, effectively eliminated. That covid outbreak, and the way things were allocated after changed everything. In 2019/2020 I watched our team get absolutely destroyed by Australia in 3 tests in Australia. We didn't go tour South Africa or the subcontinent, things just really fell into our favour. Not to say what our team achieved was a complete fluke, because in our final tests at home, we played what was in front of us, had to win them all, and did. And also go up against the might of India in the final, and we beat them comfortably (albeit in conditions that suited us much more than them, and the advantage of having just played a series there against England) But to say we were the best team in the world....that's where it was hollow. We weren't, and never have been. Until we win series in Australia and South Africa and India, then we can start talking. Things just really fell into favour for us.
Also I really enjoyed this video, as it came across completely unbiased. Brilliant content and look forward to watching more
So, NZ was able to go to England and beat them 1-0 (and probably would have been 2-0 if it wasn't for rain), and yet you are worried about NZ playing Bangladesh who are really struggling at the moment? That doesn't really stack up, sorry.
Interesting
NZ might not be able to beat Australia, but we can beat teams that beat Australia. More proof that its not a lack of skill, but a choking/little brother complex.
But one thing that people always forget is that while 1 win in a 2 match series is worth 60 points, a loss grants 60 points to another team. Which then means you have to win a match from a 2 match series just to counter act that, or more than 1 test in a 3+ series. It is greater reward, but also greater risk. Australia might win the first test of the Ashes for only points. But then England have 4 more matches to undo that. NZ lost the first test to Sri Lanka. Now they have one test to undo that.
Also at a certain point you get to the World Title fight way of saying who is the best team. Which is madness for cricket.
Cant beat Australia in Australian conditions, surely the black caps would be favourite at home
Australia has lost interest in cricket. All the best athletes go to other more popular sports like AFL nowdays. Its a shadow of its former self.
NZs time will come
Really happy for nz , once again exposing the those fraudulent overrated flat track bullies top order of india who have not shown up in any icc final since 2011 , remember 2013 champions trophy , indian bowlers defended 132 in the final , this top order will only turn up for paytm trophies.
Not sure about, "... flat track bullies...". That may be the case historically. I'm not sure though, that the tag applies to the current team. They comfortably won the 2020/21 series, in Australia. The top order batsmen you mentioned, all completed the series with healthy averages: cricket.yahoo.net/series/india-tour-of-australia-202021-1555/stats
If Australia played half the tests that they do and still didn't make it to the final would they still be saying that playing shorter series is a "massive advantage"?
It doesn't matter what Australia say, it's clearly an advantage in the points system.
@@JarrodKimberYT I just think it's funny to see you give them so much gib to be honest mate. It was never going to be perfect, especially with covid. I'm not always NZ's biggest fan even, but I do think they deserve more credit than you gave them there. Notably, they just won a series in England (have to point out that Aus drew their last), and a home series against India even! They've been consistent over the last 3-4 seasons while Aus has been far from that, with England mostly bad. Of course, the one knock on this Blackcaps team is that they haven't won a series against Aus, unlike Hadlee's team. On form though, I have to say that is coming. Look at how good Conway and Jamieson are. They're the pieces that have been missing.
@@andrewbagshaw3095 Australia has lost interest in cricket. All the best athletes go to other more popular sports like AFL nowdays. Its a shadow of its former self.
@@Sothpawman Could be right over the long term but Australian cricket's surveys have reported pretty strong numbers at times in recent years. I think it has decreased here in NZ, as competitions near me have shrunk, and spectator numbers have dropped from full grounds for tests in the 80s to just a couple of thousand at some venues. I also found some statistics to the effect that participation is lower in England compared to a few years ago. I believe it is growing in the subcontinent and also in some odd places like Germany due to large numbers of subcontinent immigrants.
They had to beat India 3 times. They should have won the one day final against England.
I think its the country's political set up that is shown through the cricket administration. Sri Lankan cricket's rapid slippery slope is coinsided with the rapid political, financial and social decline of the country as a whole
Well, The Big3 also put money in the pockets of ICC. India alone contribute more than 60-70% of revenue earned by ICC. Nobody should be having any problem with them taking the amount of money which they obviously take from ICC. And nobody asks questions to how smaller cricket boards are run, BCCI gets abused for the smallest of mistakes while South African Cricket board is not suspended even after govt intervention and did I mentioned the corruption in Bangladesh and Lankan Cricket boards?
I personally have no hatred towards BCCI as what they did was and is best for Indian cricket and their share is justified as they put more than than they take from ICC.
Some Indians fans who hate BCCI for this practice are also the same folks who will abuse BCCI if India doesn't perform well in away tours.
Waiting for virat 💯 today
Hoping he doesn't get a half century
@Sonu Rocks Well, I think Jamieson had something to say about that.
at 10:28 ur wrong.. Bangladesh have never beaten India in any test..infact they have lost all tests by big margins..and two were drawn just cz of rain..otherwise BD would have lost them too
NZ WINING EVERYTHING THEY WON THE AMERICAS CUP CRICKET TEST CHAMPIONS RUGBY CHAMPIONS Auckland NZ the most liveable city on earth and NZL number 1 covid safe spot in the world
All I know is that NZ returned home with the Mace.....
and that's what matters. no matter how good south africa was, people remember australia because they did the hattrick of world cups.
So why can't the other Test nations get together, pool their money and resources and challenge the Big Three?
It's just like a business. It takes incredible skills to really figure out what are the flaws which need to be rectified and how much you can invest in changing those things to get rewards. NZ board did incredible job in using their limited resources but it's not easy
The question of our times.
Good content but can you please speak a bit slowly? It’s hard to keep up at times 😂