Bill being gay isn’t a new thing from the show, it’s heavily implied in the game. You can find the suicide note that frank left and give to bill for closure. It reads like an angry break up letter. He calls him a “partner” and Ellie steals a gay porn mag from bill before they leave. Putting all that together it’s pretty obvious. People who got mad about the Bill episode either never played the game or just didn’t pay attention while playing and it went over there head cause I remember people discussing it on forums way back in 2014, it’s always been known by fans
The show only annoyed me because they didn't have a happy ending like they did in the game, and I really wanted the Ellie and Bill interactions, they were great. Episode 3 was great for TV, and I understand it's intended to appease to more people than those that played the game. Just upset we didn't get the Bill and Ellie back and forth
I was very unhappy with bill episode because that whole part was made into a way to long flashback. To end the whole thing Joel reads a letter and they move on from the town with no Ellie interacting with bill wich is the best part of the game. So that "people are mad because they didn't play the game" thats BS.
@@traumadelic Joel kills her because he`s already done the math ? years earlier on the infection rate and human population human clusters(camps) and the distribution cycle(transport of infected)... he knows the human race can not recover fast enough thus humans are a an Endangered Spices The Last Of Us is an ELE event ` Extinction Level Event `....
I really hope you do the 2nd game as well, it'd be so interesting to hear your take on everything; Ellie's ptsd and grief, how Joel changed, Abby's ptsd and grief, etc.
Yes! I can NOT express how important these videos are for people. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to do these videos. A lot of people use videos games as a type of therapy, myself included, and this means the world to me. You take it seriously, you walk us through the mental processes, and we (myself, at least) get a great deal of peace from watching these videos. I've said it already, but I honestly can't thank you enough ❤
Hey Brittany! Thank you so much for your kind words. I’m so glad this content has been supportive. I really hope to make information on trauma easily digestible and accessible to everyone and I’m glad these videos have been able to do that. Video games, movies, and any other medium for story telling have such a profound potential to allow for trauma healing.
I think a video about David is be an amazing idea. For horrible that he is he’s also a super interesting character and actually representative of very real traumas some people have to go through because of people like David. Also the betrayal aspects, the feeling of being used and chased... I appreciated a lot your cutting out the scene honestly and the tw, but I think a video specifically on that would be a really interesting and needed one. In TLOU communities we rarely talk about David in depth and I would love to hear a professional’s analysis about this chunk of one of my favorite stories of all time :)
I always took Joel’s torture of the firefly guard as wish fulfillment of what he wanted to do to that soldier who killed his daughter. He lost one daughter to an asshole soldier who was “just following orders” and now he’s about to lose a second one to the exact same kind of people- again just following orders. He sees in his head a chance to right his ultimate wrong and get a kind of revenge on the people who took his entire life from him.
I don’t know if it’s in your wheelhouse as someone that specializes in trauma therapy, but Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice has been long touted as a fantastic depiction of psychosis as a result of a traumatic event. I’m not sure if psychosis and traumatic events are linked in that way but maybe it’s worth taking a look at.
I haven't played this game yet, but I have it. Just haven't attempted to play, yet. But I watched a no-commentary play-through and the game was so amazing and so devastating and well-acted. I would absolutely love to see a reaction and explanation of it. Maybe I'll get the courage up to play it someday.
The scene after Ellie kills David and Joel refers to her as "baby girl" is my favorite scene of the game, the whole game was a rush of emotion. But when Joel stops running from his paternal instinct and admits Ellie is his found daughter made me happy, not for the circumstance within which it happened of course (David and his ilk got what they deserved) I could write a few more paragraphs, but I pretty much went full don't talk to me or my daughter again when Ellie was introduced, same for Sarah. My brother always tells me my parental instincts go from 0 to 100 real quick. Also Joel did nothing wrong, the Fire flies are idiots, thats not how cortycepts work they could have just taken a blood sample
Really good analysis! Thank you so much. I would like to see a deep dive about the scene with Ellie and David and I would like to see a video about part 2 even more. Keep up the good work! :)
“My names David…” **Collective Sigh** AND YES!!! I’d absolutely LOVE another video on The Last of Us. It’s been one of my favorite games for so long and I even got a tattoo dedicated to it on my 20th birthday! 😊 The trauma-lense of this particular game has always hooked me because it was the deepest and most conplex I(personally) had seen up to that point. 100000/10 games ❤ If you end up really liking it and feel up to it I’d absolutely watch a similar video about the second game and recommend it to people 👀
This video was absolutely amazing! This Last of Us: Part 1 and 2 are my favorite video games of all time and to have someone break down the inner and outer trauma response and explains the WHY was incredibly insightful. Not gonna lie, I got emotional watching this - IN A GOOD WAY. Please do a break down of the Ellie/David/Joel scene please 🙏🏻 and also do TLOU: P2! In Part 2, I’m very interested in what you have to say about THE SCENE and what Ellie/Abby were both dealing with internally during that moment. Subscribed!
Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback! This is very valuable for me and I appreciate your support. I absolutely look forward to doing part 2 soon!
This is a great video - I love these games for how nuanced their characters responses to the events that happen are. I’d love to see your perspective of The Last of Us: Part 2.
Nothing but growth is going to happen to this channel - the quality is top-class and you're genuinely really interesting to listen to and see react. You deserve it!
Wow, dude, thank you so much for that feedback. I really hope to be able to grow and engage with the community here!! I appreciate your words and support and look forward to putting out more videos!
My GF and I talk about my hyper vigilance a lot and how bad it can be sometimes. One of our mutual friends has done a few tours in the middle east and I deacribed to him the occasional nightmares I have and I described the worst one ive had so far. He had to stop me because he could feel himself starting to kind of get triggered. He asked me about some experiences ive had in life and said "youve never seen combat and have hardly ever even seen or taken part of physical altercation. Yet somehow you have nightmares, traumas and hypervigilance of a soldier. I have to know how and why that is." My GF notices that when I hear things like sudden loud noises, loud footsteps, distant yelling, and some other miscellanious sounds Im kind of on edge. And shes noticed that when I have a day where I dont do anything like chores or work or something I get kinda weird. When I was a kid I wasnt allowed to show my anger and frustration. I would be punished for it, so I hid it all the time. And I grew up afraid to cry so I would wait till I was going to bed and cry or feel upset and Id go about my day the next day hiding it. So when things set me off, I never really know how to handle it so I have to walk/run away to process and calm down. Despite all of that. What puts the icing on the cake for me is when people refuse to understand why things put me on edge. Or they act like everyone goes through it and we just deal with it. Its very hard to regulate emotions and deal with traumas when you already have a neuro chemical imbalance and then people rehash traumas for you and act as if theyre just messing around and you took it too far. Sorry for the ramble, just had all that rolling around during the video
I really liked and appreciated this video! As a fan, as someone with cPTSD. You have such a good way of putting something complicated in a way that's easily understandable. And the whole vibe of your video is super calm & soothing somehow. Awesome❤
This might be really weird, but your videos help me in my a lot of my nursing classes, especially the trauma informed care aspect. It genuinely helps me connect these "abstract", discussed topics to more tangible, and closely to things I relate to or like in life (i.e. TLoU).
I just found this channel today, but I really enjoyed this video. It really helped me get a better understanding of how ive processed some major things in my life recently that I didnt have the space to process in the moment they occurred. Thank you 🙏🏾 Also, would love to see the analysis/break down of the fire scene.
Thank you so so much for your wonderful comment. I’m so glad this video was supportive and thank you for sharing your experiences. Appreciate your support!
I really hope when you get to shows for examples you do The Walking Dead. I think a large part of why TLOU show didn't effect me as hard is I had already seen a lot of the trauma on TWD. The scene where Carl almost gets Graped by the Claimers and the lengths Rick has to go to protect his son from such a thing. Carl having to put down his own mother after she passed away from the birth of his little sister. (Btw, the reason is unlike TLOU in TWD you come back unless there is blunt force trauma to the head. Only head wounds stop walkers.) Rick having to go through the fact he and his wife never made up. Rick having to kill his best friend since the fourth grade. Maggie and Beth watching their dad be decapitated and not being able to mourn. Sasha losing both her boyfriend Bob and then her brother Tyreese. Dale dying after being the moral compass and pleading humanity for the group. The offer of Dr. Jenner at the CDC to stay and be incinerated to give up, or to keep going and perhaps not being greatful when "the day will come when you won't be." There are so many amazing moments and tbh every character in the show has PTSD.
He nailed the feelings of PTSD very well, something I can relate also, it comes to a point as to who you can really trust and rely on, living on edge with the fear of them hurting my vunrable state of mind where i act like jole in response, my child life was similar to ellie where i didn't have any mother/siblings figure and grew up without the family concept, so a lot of this game and the characters i can relate to, it's maybe one of the reasons i love this game and the characters, not a lot of people when i try to explain my situation to them understand that concept and it gets harder as it goes along, my situation is similar to bill in this game as a defence mechanism, this game goes deep i feel.
I love your take!! I just finished the first episode of “expat”. Would love to see your take on it. As a young woman who lost her children to violence. That episode was the first time I’ve seen someone (Nicole Kidman) depict what it actually feels like to lose a child, and how tormenting to the psyche it is. I always watch the last of us gameplay to fall asleep to. It feels like since I lost my kids the life and person I was died with them and everything since has been my apocalypse I’m finally in a happy place though and healed so much but the last of us gives me comfort.
Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us. I'm so glad you're at a place where you have been able to channel your resilience through grief and trauma. I haven't heard of Expat but it sounds interesting! I'll see if that's something I can look into. Once again, thank you for sharing your story. We appreciate that you're here!
Love the video. Would honestly watch even longer videos on the subject, especially given the complexity of the second game and how the majority of people have a hard time understanding the characters' choices and behaviour. It's also really calming to hear your commentary.
CanNOT wait to do the second game. And thank you so much for your comment. That truly means a lot. I actually have a 45 minute version of this out there👀. I might put it out someday!
It is not that people don't understand the characters. Sure some may not but the big reason people do not like it is because the story pacing is off. The story is unbalanced and when you include gameplay it makes those imperfections really shine. I mean there is a 2 hour fetch quest in the middle of the game. Yes, an analysis would be great.
This video was awsome! TLOU 1 & 2 are my fav games and I'm a psych student ATM so seeing you talk about this is so insiping. PLEASE do part 2 I could watch you talk for like an hr
Personally I’m with the Joel was right perspective in that as Ellies new surrogate father in effect he had no choice but to save her, she wasn’t given a choice, and shes still a child (if thats means anything in the LOU world along with the ethicality of voluntary end of life sacrifice) but not doing so would have meant the chance of any future choice is also taken away, as she is no longer alive. Lets not forget of course its a fictional story where all factors have been written to make the situation as impossible and dramatic as possible. For me some of my favourite moments are the house conversation, leading to Joel accepting her and the start of the university sequence and the traumatised start to the spring/bus depo leading to the sort of healing childhood regaining giraffe scene. For a much more direct game on PTSD, trauma, loss and the revenge cycle see The last of us 2. I believe Neil Druckmann the creator wanted to make something that featured ‘the other point of view’ and revenge and its consequences from real world conflicts. And yes its even more violent and I don’t like what happened to you know who.
Anyone that is a parent will understand why Joel did he what did. I would never sacrifice my child for the greater good of anything, I would watch the whole world burn if it meant my child would live. That’s a parents love, you can never understand how much you can love someone until you have a child, it’s a different love. Joel filled that hole in his heart that his daughter left behind with Ellie, and he just couldn’t bare to fail another child. People that think Joel is the villain are seriously deluded.
will be so excited to see your thoughts and analysation for tlou pt.2 since the story could be so emotionally and mentally taxing and exhausting @@traumadelic
The way Ellie says "He tried to..." and she just starts breaking down crying. It tears my heart out every time. She was finally in the presence of safety and realized what a monster David was, and what he wanted to do to her.
Thank you, so much. Battling against complex trauma has made me very aware and interested in the psychology of it. I connected very deeply with this game & series and your analysis was very, very welcome. I'd be super interested in hearing more of your thoughts on it !
The incredible quality of this story is that there is no simple answer. We want a simple answer and we may believe a simple answer, but you appreciation of the complexity of Joel and Ellie as both incredibly damaged people who then become incredibly raw as they are healing with each other and how that ultimately lands them in a terrible, tragic, painful situation that leads the beginning of the end. It is a tragedy of pain and love in an impossible situation. It is a masterpiece
16:15... Quote: "HENRY, what have you done? It's all YOUR fault!!" The fact that Henry pronounces his own name instead of Joel's or Ellie's shows that he was talking to himself, blaming himself for Sam's death (while Joel misunderstood thinking it was directed at him), so there's also a sense of guilt (about not having protected his brother enough as he should have) in addition to those you've cited.
This is why the second game creates a problem: They make it seem like Ellie did want to die, but that's only because of hindsight. Joel gave her a reason to live as well as her giving Joel a reason to live. She says she wanted to die, that her life would've mattered to me seems like suicidal ideation. Because she clearly had no idea she would've had to die till after the events of the first game, so odds are she was, even after the trauma of the cult leader trying to kill her, and being taken by another cult, aka the Fireflies, she likely thought she could've lived after the Fireflies "made a cure." And the contrast of Kratos reclaiming hope to become better, most groups in these two games use the idea of hope to manipulate the people in their groups, like how the doctor never once offers any kind of scientific proof that he can make a cure, only that Marlene needs to buy in to what he's selling. He used hope to manipulate her into being ok with killing a child.
It might seem like a small thing, but Ellie never said she wanted to die. She said she SHOULD have died -- in order to create a cure and save humanity. To me, that's a big distinction and I don't really think it shows suicidal ideation. I just think that Ellie feels that she's just an ordinary person and doesn't have anymore "right" to live more than anyone else, when there are so many people dying around her every day. So, she feels that if she could do something that great, something that would be healing to the whole of humanity, that would be worth the sacrifice. If she really wanted to die, she probably had a billion opportunities every day without actually doing it herself. All she'd have to do is not fight back when confronted by infected or bad guys.
Would love to see your take on Part 2 as well. I feel that the second game is so much more emotionally complex even if the story isn’t as tight as this one.
Thank you for giving voice to all these things we experienced with this game, I can't wait to see part 2 because there you will have a lot of things to dissect.
Bro when Joel daughter died holy fuck as a father of 2 that shit hit me hard, Joel daughter and my daughter are the same build and ish and fuck I cried so hard I was happy I wasn’t streaming it
You forgot to talk about the part where gives joel the picture of him and sarah, that part always got me for real, i always cry, i have to mention that tried to give joel the same picture and joel did not accept it
Crazy how you say how ptsd makes you feel like you’ll never be safe after a certain situation and in the second game it’s crazy how he thought he was safe with Abby not knowing what would happen
Usually, I fly by these kind of videos, as I have little interest. But The Last of us is one of my favorite games that I have played over and over again. Amazing voice acting; amazing story. Every portrayed character is unique and draws you in more to the story. I did really enjoy this video. Most of the analysis given I already knew, as I am a PTSD sufferer myself. However, it was still fun to watch. My attention was drawn (usually I play a game while RUclips runs in the background). Everything was explained well and in, personally for me, a calm manner. I'd definitely like to see what other content there is. Also, I would just like to say from my part, I like Joel a lot. I didn't have much of an issue what was said or done in the game. However, I do not think that what he did at the end was the right choice. I did lean more towards the Fireflies. I think it would have been to do the operation without Ellie knowing. Reason: It is one person compared to hundreds and thousands that could be saved if there was a vaccine. I also think that, allowing Ellie to make a choice herself, would have been cruel. At that point, you are putting so much on the shoulders of a teenager, who not only has been through a lot of pain, but might also now see that maybe life is worth living with Joel beside her. Now you're going to ask that child to choose? If Ellie would have said no, then what? She would have to bear the deaths of a lot more people, just because of her not wanting to die. She would have been labelled as selfish or a monster, harassed, attacked. I don't know. It's just my opinion.
The layering of meaning this game does (ultimately setting up the mastery of Part II’s narrative) is so beautiful because it’s hard to accept. Ellie very likely would have sacrificed herself, but she wasn’t given the chance to. The Fireflies very well could have made a cute, though unlikely they could save humanity given the lack of infrastructure and institutional support to mass produce and distribute. They didn’t give her the chance to decide, I’d guess because they couldn’t afford her saying no. Joel slaughtered a lot of people and destroyed friends, families, and a whole community to save his surrogate daughter-this is what any parent would do, and you probably WANT your parent to do that to save you, because they are the protector. STILL, it was a brutal, immoral act of mass murder. Part of Ellie may even be proud that Joel did that for her (and would do it again…eh?), but even STILL he didn’t give her any agency in the matter. You can reasonably defend any position in this situation and make a compelling argument, and that is what makes the TLOU games so powerful. As a whole, these two games tap into the human capacity for empathy and our often animalistic resistance to it, in a way you rarely ever see in storytelling. The answer isn’t supposed to be easy to reach or perfectly clear to the eye. We are subjective beings so we can only ever truly know our own perspective….though how well we “know” even that is a debate unto itself. We orbit around that misty locus where ourselves and the other seem about to come into contact, and that’s probably as close as we can ever get to each other, but being willing to try to see through the mist is, I think, what these games are ultimately reaching for. Despite all the ugliness, that is beautiful to me.
You absolutely have to react to Omori. It is an amazing game and a spectacular representation of trauma, repression, anxiety, and a bunch of mental health stuff.
I love the video and I will say Ellie had no reason to feel like their life and their sacrifice was an obligation to do so because the entire game she feels an obligation to be the cure to become the cure to make the cure because of all the trauma and loss that she’s received, but all in all it is her in her head, obligating herself in order to deal with the trauma to feel like everything was worth it in the end and that all of the pain she went through and all of the people she lost didn’t die for nothing but that way of thinking is an obligation of thought because you shouldn’t feel like you owe your life to everyone in the world because this is the equivalent to turning the train to kill one person to say five or turning the train to kill five and save one. So even Ellie is not necessarily in the right or the wrong, but should generally speaking not have an obligation to try and fix a virus that has changed the world so thoroughly and so horribly it is nearly impossible to return the entire earth back into a normal society.
Hey, awesome video. Honestly I thought this was someone with millions of subscribers when i was listening to your video, and I just realized that is not the fact. You deserve much more! However here is a suggestion, since you did this video so good. It would be interesting for you to do kinda similar video to this in regards to "The Walking Dead: The Final Season" or season 1, even though I would prefer The Final Season. The game is absolute emotional rollercoaster so it would be interesting to see how you would describe it to us from your point of view. Cheers!
I can't imagine what it was like for Ellie when she and Riley got bit and whwt happened in that mall after Riley turned. I think it's probably obvious Ellie had to kill Riley or at least was attacked by her. Jsut having your best friend attack you would probably be traumatic alone it if she had to kill her I don't even want to know. All i cna think is thst Ellie definitely sat there and screamed and cried wondering why she wasn't turning. She probably even thought of suicide at some point. Definitely a lot of trauma and then with having Tess and Sam get bit.
23:23 oh you skipped the part where Ellie in this game and in the sjow says "it can't be for nothing" which she means she in that moment doesn't actually care what happens to her aslong as (I'll even bring the show into it) she has her Sally Ride moment. That line i referenced plays into a lot of why Ellie feels the way she does in the second game. I'll subscribe to see if you take that mindset into the next game and maybe into what happens in S2 of TLOU What i meant by the Sally Ride moment is what could have happemed to her no matter small would've meant something for humanity. 29:28 true 29:46 yes exactly that's the way I look at it
this literally has nothing to do with the topic of this video but i love randomly seeing your cat run past your door during different times of the video lmaoo
I'd love to see your reaction to the Red Dead Redemption 2 storyline. And where you think Dutch Van der Linde's mind started to break If you love westerns you'll love this game and story
I think it would make a great video to do a reaction to the Life Is Strange games. Each one of those games has their own trauma and stories that are so interesting to see, would love to see your perspective on it.
regarding consent, could one make the argument the fireflies and Marlene were doing a kindness to Ellie by not telling her? From the fireflies perspective this was a world saving cure. They could have given Ellie the choice, but it would have only been the illusion of choice because the reality was that no matter what Ellie chose, they were going to do the surgery either way. Putting the stakes of the entire planet on the decision of a 14 year is a lot and had she said no, she simply would have died in fear. I'm not saying it's right, but I do think there's an argument there.
Would love to see what a therapist thinks of the -Life is strange series: particularly the first one~ Lot of trauma in that game that’s not always acknowledged
i may not be a trauma expert, but i love this and i have major sleep issues sometimes..i can only imagine that for someone like Joel it's way worse. regarding the effect David had on Ellie i feel like after that happened i think Ellie was a lot more distant in some of her conversations...almost like she was haunted by it for a long time...not that i would be surpised by that. while i completley understand Joel not wanting to lose Ellie...as a humanitarian i cannot justify him massacring the Fireflies, especially their main doctor who was crucial to creating a vaccine. ONE LIFE, even Ellie...does not out weigh the many.
You should do a video on Telltale Games, The Walking Dead season 1. Doesn't look as good as this game but it's got quite a few moments you can do a good deep dive on with trauma and loss.
It’s always pissed me off how Marlene still tried to talk Joel into leaving Ellie in the final hospital scene by saying Ellie would make the choice to sacrifice herself if given the option. Even if Ellie would decide to sacrifice herself, she is a child and can’t rationally make that decision. Marlene was the truly awful.
I loved listening to your thoughts on TLOU and hope you delve into TLOU2 in the future!! I have a request though, I would love for you to speak about Mr Robot by Sam Esmail. It’s quite a big ask I know. But I would love your thoughts if it aligns with your area of expertise ☺️
DO AS MUCH GAMING (& ESPECIALLY TLOU STUFF AS YOU CAN. This fandom in particular could damn well benefit from exactly your insight. Plus your audience would likely spike. It's how I got here.
This game is awfully traumatic for the fictional carachters in game but.... one as a player is also affected by this game and the choices you have to make in game! There was more than one occasion where I heavily disputed or overlooked the decision I was about to take... that my fellow gamers is the beauty of this game! Is so facking immersive and traumatic that you actually live that world in your head! The first 2,3 times I replayed this game, depending on my mood...I had to take a break from it because it really affects you! Seeing all those traumatic events and decisions is so facked up! Lol... that's why so so many people love this series!
I do think that when you're talking about the fate of millions of people, the medical consent of one person loses value as part of a utilitarian calculus, like what about the consent that other people have? Their right to not be ripped apart by monsters or be turned into monsters by a viral fungal infection or live under a totalitarian police state because of said fungus or any of the other innumerable rights people have in a civilized society that cannot reform because of said fungus again? The ethics of it all become far more complex than just a single situation in isolation and it's why the whole thing becomes so tragic, because Joel can't do the best thing for himself or for Ellie without it being at the expense of literally everyone else in the world and so that part of him just says "screw everyone else, the only thing that matters is her", it's the endpoint of unconditional parental love and the danger of tying your entire identity to something, where in Joel's mind, the only thing that makes his life meaningful, that could ever make his life meaningful is being a father. It doesn't just restrict your judgment or your perspective, it restricts your empathy. Joel never so much as considered the morality of what he was doing, it only crossed his mind when Marlene tells him Ellie would want this, because he knows it's true and yet he can't respect it because if she wants this, if she would want to die for this, 'then I have to protect her from herself'. In preserving the thing that gives his life meaning, he has robbed her of the meaning that she has been seeking so desperately throughout all of this and it causes her unbearable mental duress that he can't bring himself to help her through because it would mean losing her and even then, heck he probably wouldn't know how to help her precisely because his perspective is so limited.
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Bill being gay isn’t a new thing from the show, it’s heavily implied in the game. You can find the suicide note that frank left and give to bill for closure. It reads like an angry break up letter. He calls him a “partner” and Ellie steals a gay porn mag from bill before they leave. Putting all that together it’s pretty obvious. People who got mad about the Bill episode either never played the game or just didn’t pay attention while playing and it went over there head cause I remember people discussing it on forums way back in 2014, it’s always been known by fans
Don’t forget she made the joke of the pages being sticky haha!😂
I'm sure your "FRIEND" will be miss this tonight 😏
The show only annoyed me because they didn't have a happy ending like they did in the game, and I really wanted the Ellie and Bill interactions, they were great. Episode 3 was great for TV, and I understand it's intended to appease to more people than those that played the game. Just upset we didn't get the Bill and Ellie back and forth
@@truffles635She was joking but it was a funny joke
I was very unhappy with bill episode because that whole part was made into a way to long flashback. To end the whole thing Joel reads a letter and they move on from the town with no Ellie interacting with bill wich is the best part of the game. So that "people are mad because they didn't play the game" thats BS.
You have to analize the ellie’s ptsd in the second game
Gonna be a field day
@@traumadelicyeah, a depressing one 🙌😭 I STILL have trauma from my first playthrough of it 🤣💀
@@AustinSamson1999 Me to 😭😭😭😭
@@traumadelic Joel kills her because he`s already done the math ? years earlier on the infection rate and human population human clusters(camps) and the distribution cycle(transport of infected)... he knows the human race can not recover fast enough thus humans are a an Endangered Spices The Last Of Us is an ELE event ` Extinction Level Event `....
He will have to do Abby PTSD aswell would be very good considering that I find Abby’s side better imo
the HBO verison did SUCH a beautiful job sharing the experience of PTSD with Joel's ears ringing with a flashback.
Absolutely! So well done
I really hope you do the 2nd game as well, it'd be so interesting to hear your take on everything; Ellie's ptsd and grief, how Joel changed, Abby's ptsd and grief, etc.
Yes!
I can NOT express how important these videos are for people.
I can't thank you enough for taking the time to do these videos.
A lot of people use videos games as a type of therapy, myself included, and this means the world to me.
You take it seriously, you walk us through the mental processes, and we (myself, at least) get a great deal of peace from watching these videos.
I've said it already, but I honestly can't thank you enough ❤
Hey Brittany! Thank you so much for your kind words. I’m so glad this content has been supportive. I really hope to make information on trauma easily digestible and accessible to everyone and I’m glad these videos have been able to do that. Video games, movies, and any other medium for story telling have such a profound potential to allow for trauma healing.
I think a video about David is be an amazing idea. For horrible that he is he’s also a super interesting character and actually representative of very real traumas some people have to go through because of people like David. Also the betrayal aspects, the feeling of being used and chased... I appreciated a lot your cutting out the scene honestly and the tw, but I think a video specifically on that would be a really interesting and needed one. In TLOU communities we rarely talk about David in depth and I would love to hear a professional’s analysis about this chunk of one of my favorite stories of all time :)
i love this game dude ive watched like every interview and analysis under the sun, never seen a therapists pov on the game, i love it
Also the second one is gonna be a field day for you🤣
Dude! Yes amazing game. Thank you so much for your comment. Appreciate your feedback!!
I always took Joel’s torture of the firefly guard as wish fulfillment of what he wanted to do to that soldier who killed his daughter. He lost one daughter to an asshole soldier who was “just following orders” and now he’s about to lose a second one to the exact same kind of people- again just following orders. He sees in his head a chance to right his ultimate wrong and get a kind of revenge on the people who took his entire life from him.
I don’t know if it’s in your wheelhouse as someone that specializes in trauma therapy, but Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice has been long touted as a fantastic depiction of psychosis as a result of a traumatic event. I’m not sure if psychosis and traumatic events are linked in that way but maybe it’s worth taking a look at.
I’ll have to take a look into it! It sounds fascinating. Traumatic events and psychosis can absolutely be linked sometimes.
I co-sign Hellblade
@@TahoeNevada Same, it's amazing and there is a lot to say about it
I haven't played this game yet, but I have it. Just haven't attempted to play, yet. But I watched a no-commentary play-through and the game was so amazing and so devastating and well-acted. I would absolutely love to see a reaction and explanation of it. Maybe I'll get the courage up to play it someday.
Hellblade if played with headphones is a literal trip into severe schizophrenia
The scene after Ellie kills David and Joel refers to her as "baby girl" is my favorite scene of the game, the whole game was a rush of emotion. But when Joel stops running from his paternal instinct and admits Ellie is his found daughter made me happy, not for the circumstance within which it happened of course (David and his ilk got what they deserved) I could write a few more paragraphs, but I pretty much went full don't talk to me or my daughter again when Ellie was introduced, same for Sarah. My brother always tells me my parental instincts go from 0 to 100 real quick.
Also Joel did nothing wrong, the Fire flies are idiots, thats not how cortycepts work they could have just taken a blood sample
Really good analysis! Thank you so much. I would like to see a deep dive about the scene with Ellie and David and I would like to see a video about part 2 even more.
Keep up the good work! :)
“My names David…”
**Collective Sigh**
AND YES!!! I’d absolutely LOVE another video on The Last of Us. It’s been one of my favorite games for so long and I even got a tattoo dedicated to it on my 20th birthday! 😊
The trauma-lense of this particular game has always hooked me because it was the deepest and most conplex I(personally) had seen up to that point. 100000/10 games ❤
If you end up really liking it and feel up to it I’d absolutely watch a similar video about the second game and recommend it to people 👀
This video was absolutely amazing!
This Last of Us: Part 1 and 2 are my favorite video games of all time and to have someone break down the inner and outer trauma response and explains the WHY was incredibly insightful. Not gonna lie, I got emotional watching this - IN A GOOD WAY. Please do a break down of the Ellie/David/Joel scene please 🙏🏻 and also do TLOU: P2! In Part 2, I’m very interested in what you have to say about THE SCENE and what Ellie/Abby were both dealing with internally during that moment. Subscribed!
Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback! This is very valuable for me and I appreciate your support. I absolutely look forward to doing part 2 soon!
This is a great video - I love these games for how nuanced their characters responses to the events that happen are. I’d love to see your perspective of The Last of Us: Part 2.
Thank you for your support! Yes! I cannot wait to do a video on TLOU 2
Part 2 is really heavy I enjoyed the way you dove into this as well as you did.
@@traumadelicsubbing in anticipation
I loved this video! Ellie’s recall of all the people she lost at the end is a huge indication of her survival guilt too.
Nothing but growth is going to happen to this channel - the quality is top-class and you're genuinely really interesting to listen to and see react. You deserve it!
Wow, dude, thank you so much for that feedback. I really hope to be able to grow and engage with the community here!! I appreciate your words and support and look forward to putting out more videos!
@@traumadelic Well I for one will be there! All the best to you mate
What an amazing channel I just stumbled upon. Thanks for your analysis.
Thank YOU for your comment. Super grateful for your support!
My GF and I talk about my hyper vigilance a lot and how bad it can be sometimes. One of our mutual friends has done a few tours in the middle east and I deacribed to him the occasional nightmares I have and I described the worst one ive had so far. He had to stop me because he could feel himself starting to kind of get triggered. He asked me about some experiences ive had in life and said "youve never seen combat and have hardly ever even seen or taken part of physical altercation. Yet somehow you have nightmares, traumas and hypervigilance of a soldier. I have to know how and why that is." My GF notices that when I hear things like sudden loud noises, loud footsteps, distant yelling, and some other miscellanious sounds Im kind of on edge. And shes noticed that when I have a day where I dont do anything like chores or work or something I get kinda weird. When I was a kid I wasnt allowed to show my anger and frustration. I would be punished for it, so I hid it all the time. And I grew up afraid to cry so I would wait till I was going to bed and cry or feel upset and Id go about my day the next day hiding it. So when things set me off, I never really know how to handle it so I have to walk/run away to process and calm down. Despite all of that. What puts the icing on the cake for me is when people refuse to understand why things put me on edge. Or they act like everyone goes through it and we just deal with it. Its very hard to regulate emotions and deal with traumas when you already have a neuro chemical imbalance and then people rehash traumas for you and act as if theyre just messing around and you took it too far. Sorry for the ramble, just had all that rolling around during the video
I really liked and appreciated this video! As a fan, as someone with cPTSD. You have such a good way of putting something complicated in a way that's easily understandable. And the whole vibe of your video is super calm & soothing somehow. Awesome❤
Thank you so so much for your support and thank you for sharing! I appreciate your words and I'm glad this video was supportive!:)
This might be really weird, but your videos help me in my a lot of my nursing classes, especially the trauma informed care aspect. It genuinely helps me connect these "abstract", discussed topics to more tangible, and closely to things I relate to or like in life (i.e. TLoU).
That is SO awesome!!! It's very cool to hear these videos have been helpful in your program! Thank you so much for sharing that!
I just found this channel today, but I really enjoyed this video. It really helped me get a better understanding of how ive processed some major things in my life recently that I didnt have the space to process in the moment they occurred. Thank you 🙏🏾
Also, would love to see the analysis/break down of the fire scene.
Thank you so so much for your wonderful comment. I’m so glad this video was supportive and thank you for sharing your experiences. Appreciate your support!
I really hope when you get to shows for examples you do The Walking Dead.
I think a large part of why TLOU show didn't effect me as hard is I had already seen a lot of the trauma on TWD.
The scene where Carl almost gets Graped by the Claimers and the lengths Rick has to go to protect his son from such a thing.
Carl having to put down his own mother after she passed away from the birth of his little sister. (Btw, the reason is unlike TLOU in TWD you come back unless there is blunt force trauma to the head. Only head wounds stop walkers.)
Rick having to go through the fact he and his wife never made up.
Rick having to kill his best friend since the fourth grade.
Maggie and Beth watching their dad be decapitated and not being able to mourn.
Sasha losing both her boyfriend Bob and then her brother Tyreese.
Dale dying after being the moral compass and pleading humanity for the group.
The offer of Dr. Jenner at the CDC to stay and be incinerated to give up, or to keep going and perhaps not being greatful when "the day will come when you won't be."
There are so many amazing moments and tbh every character in the show has PTSD.
I LOVE THIS VID! I HOPE YOU KEEP MAKING THESE TYPES OF EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIVE VIDEOS. I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL.
Thank you so much for your support and enthusiasm! That means so much!
He nailed the feelings of PTSD very well, something I can relate also, it comes to a point as to who you can really trust and rely on, living on edge with the fear of them hurting my vunrable state of mind where i act like jole in response, my child life was similar to ellie where i didn't have any mother/siblings figure and grew up without the family concept, so a lot of this game and the characters i can relate to, it's maybe one of the reasons i love this game and the characters, not a lot of people when i try to explain my situation to them understand that concept and it gets harder as it goes along, my situation is similar to bill in this game as a defence mechanism, this game goes deep i feel.
Thank you so much for sharing your story! I appreciate your feedback
@@traumadelic aww thanks! continue to help people with support and understanding that is all I ask, this world is not kind to people like that 😔😔
I love your take!! I just finished the first episode of “expat”. Would love to see your take on it. As a young woman who lost her children to violence. That episode was the first time I’ve seen someone (Nicole Kidman) depict what it actually feels like to lose a child, and how tormenting to the psyche it is. I always watch the last of us gameplay to fall asleep to. It feels like since I lost my kids the life and person I was died with them and everything since has been my apocalypse I’m finally in a happy place though and healed so much but the last of us gives me comfort.
Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us. I'm so glad you're at a place where you have been able to channel your resilience through grief and trauma.
I haven't heard of Expat but it sounds interesting! I'll see if that's something I can look into. Once again, thank you for sharing your story. We appreciate that you're here!
Love the video. Would honestly watch even longer videos on the subject, especially given the complexity of the second game and how the majority of people have a hard time understanding the characters' choices and behaviour. It's also really calming to hear your commentary.
CanNOT wait to do the second game. And thank you so much for your comment. That truly means a lot. I actually have a 45 minute version of this out there👀. I might put it out someday!
It is not that people don't understand the characters. Sure some may not but the big reason people do not like it is because the story pacing is off. The story is unbalanced and when you include gameplay it makes those imperfections really shine. I mean there is a 2 hour fetch quest in the middle of the game. Yes, an analysis would be great.
This video was awsome! TLOU 1 & 2 are my fav games and I'm a psych student ATM so seeing you talk about this is so insiping. PLEASE do part 2 I could watch you talk for like an hr
That's so awesome that you said this is inspiring. It is an honor to hear that!! I appreciate your support! Part 2 will be coming soon
Personally I’m with the Joel was right perspective in that as Ellies new surrogate father in effect he had no choice but to save her, she wasn’t given a choice, and shes still a child (if thats means anything in the LOU world along with the ethicality of voluntary end of life sacrifice) but not doing so would have meant the chance of any future choice is also taken away, as she is no longer alive. Lets not forget of course its a fictional story where all factors have been written to make the situation as impossible and dramatic as possible. For me some of my favourite moments are the house conversation, leading to Joel accepting her and the start of the university sequence and the traumatised start to the spring/bus depo leading to the sort of healing childhood regaining giraffe scene. For a much more direct game on PTSD, trauma, loss and the revenge cycle see The last of us 2. I believe Neil Druckmann the creator wanted to make something that featured ‘the other point of view’ and revenge and its consequences from real world conflicts. And yes its even more violent and I don’t like what happened to you know who.
Anyone that is a parent will understand why Joel did he what did. I would never sacrifice my child for the greater good of anything, I would watch the whole world burn if it meant my child would live. That’s a parents love, you can never understand how much you can love someone until you have a child, it’s a different love. Joel filled that hole in his heart that his daughter left behind with Ellie, and he just couldn’t bare to fail another child. People that think Joel is the villain are seriously deluded.
Loved this analysis. I need one on part 2 because I feel it's just filled with it. The trauma is amped up in part 2
Thank you so much! Part 2 coming this week:)
8:28 Your cat running past the door in the corner of the screen scared the shit outta me 😅😂🤣😂🤣
I really hope you do a video over the second game!
I’m gonna try and get that one done soon! Thank you for your support
will be so excited to see your thoughts and analysation for tlou pt.2 since the story could be so emotionally and mentally taxing and exhausting @@traumadelic
The way Ellie says "He tried to..." and she just starts breaking down crying. It tears my heart out every time. She was finally in the presence of safety and realized what a monster David was, and what he wanted to do to her.
Totally never even thought I would see a video like this. This is awesome!
Thank you!!!!!
Thank you, so much. Battling against complex trauma has made me very aware and interested in the psychology of it. I connected very deeply with this game & series and your analysis was very, very welcome. I'd be super interested in hearing more of your thoughts on it !
Thank you so much for sharing your story! I appreciate your comment and your support!! Yes I hope to make more content on this soon🙏🏽
The incredible quality of this story is that there is no simple answer. We want a simple answer and we may believe a simple answer, but you appreciation of the complexity of Joel and Ellie as both incredibly damaged people who then become incredibly raw as they are healing with each other and how that ultimately lands them in a terrible, tragic, painful situation that leads the beginning of the end. It is a tragedy of pain and love in an impossible situation. It is a masterpiece
16:15... Quote: "HENRY, what have you done? It's all YOUR fault!!"
The fact that Henry pronounces his own name instead of Joel's or Ellie's shows that he was talking to himself, blaming himself for Sam's death (while Joel misunderstood thinking it was directed at him), so there's also a sense of guilt (about not having protected his brother enough as he should have) in addition to those you've cited.
This is why the second game creates a problem: They make it seem like Ellie did want to die, but that's only because of hindsight. Joel gave her a reason to live as well as her giving Joel a reason to live. She says she wanted to die, that her life would've mattered to me seems like suicidal ideation. Because she clearly had no idea she would've had to die till after the events of the first game, so odds are she was, even after the trauma of the cult leader trying to kill her, and being taken by another cult, aka the Fireflies, she likely thought she could've lived after the Fireflies "made a cure." And the contrast of Kratos reclaiming hope to become better, most groups in these two games use the idea of hope to manipulate the people in their groups, like how the doctor never once offers any kind of scientific proof that he can make a cure, only that Marlene needs to buy in to what he's selling. He used hope to manipulate her into being ok with killing a child.
It might seem like a small thing, but Ellie never said she wanted to die. She said she SHOULD have died -- in order to create a cure and save humanity. To me, that's a big distinction and I don't really think it shows suicidal ideation. I just think that Ellie feels that she's just an ordinary person and doesn't have anymore "right" to live more than anyone else, when there are so many people dying around her every day. So, she feels that if she could do something that great, something that would be healing to the whole of humanity, that would be worth the sacrifice. If she really wanted to die, she probably had a billion opportunities every day without actually doing it herself. All she'd have to do is not fight back when confronted by infected or bad guys.
this is the most relaxed man i ever seen
ppreciate😎🥸
I love the idea of a video about David. Personally I experienced a similar trauma like Ellie has, so I would be very interested in that.
22:42 song name please?
Kinda melancholic "at first glance" and i like it
The song is “B.A.D. necessary” by um’r
It’s actually a song by me and my friends. Thank you so much for this comment made my day🙏🏽‼️❤️
Awesome video, keep it up! Love from Italy
Great explanations, thanks a lot for this! Can’t wait for Part 2 :)
Thank you! Part 2 coming this week!
Would love to see your take on Part 2 as well. I feel that the second game is so much more emotionally complex even if the story isn’t as tight as this one.
Thank you for giving voice to all these things we experienced with this game, I can't wait to see part 2 because there you will have a lot of things to dissect.
Bro when Joel daughter died holy fuck as a father of 2 that shit hit me hard, Joel daughter and my daughter are the same build and ish and fuck I cried so hard I was happy I wasn’t streaming it
Can’t lie that cat scared me at 8:28 🤣
good video bro, loved how you dissected the characters psyche
Glad you liked the video and appreciate your support!
You forgot to talk about the part where gives joel the picture of him and sarah, that part always got me for real, i always cry, i have to mention that tried to give joel the same picture and joel did not accept it
i loved this !!!! hope you do part 2 soon :)
Thank you so much! Yes I hope to do part 2 soon!
I would love to see your analysis on the David and Ellie scenes, show and game!
I love your cat keeps running around in the background lol
LOL same, I had a good laugh while editing
Crazy how you say how ptsd makes you feel like you’ll never be safe after a certain situation and in the second game it’s crazy how he thought he was safe with Abby not knowing what would happen
Got here from the Valhalla video. Is there one coming for last of us part 2? That’s the one I really felt like needed something like this.
I’ll be sure to work on Part 2 soon😎
Usually, I fly by these kind of videos, as I have little interest. But The Last of us is one of my favorite games that I have played over and over again. Amazing voice acting; amazing story. Every portrayed character is unique and draws you in more to the story. I did really enjoy this video. Most of the analysis given I already knew, as I am a PTSD sufferer myself. However, it was still fun to watch. My attention was drawn (usually I play a game while RUclips runs in the background). Everything was explained well and in, personally for me, a calm manner. I'd definitely like to see what other content there is. Also, I would just like to say from my part, I like Joel a lot. I didn't have much of an issue what was said or done in the game. However, I do not think that what he did at the end was the right choice. I did lean more towards the Fireflies. I think it would have been to do the operation without Ellie knowing. Reason: It is one person compared to hundreds and thousands that could be saved if there was a vaccine. I also think that, allowing Ellie to make a choice herself, would have been cruel. At that point, you are putting so much on the shoulders of a teenager, who not only has been through a lot of pain, but might also now see that maybe life is worth living with Joel beside her. Now you're going to ask that child to choose? If Ellie would have said no, then what? She would have to bear the deaths of a lot more people, just because of her not wanting to die. She would have been labelled as selfish or a monster, harassed, attacked. I don't know. It's just my opinion.
The layering of meaning this game does (ultimately setting up the mastery of Part II’s narrative) is so beautiful because it’s hard to accept. Ellie very likely would have sacrificed herself, but she wasn’t given the chance to. The Fireflies very well could have made a cute, though unlikely they could save humanity given the lack of infrastructure and institutional support to mass produce and distribute. They didn’t give her the chance to decide, I’d guess because they couldn’t afford her saying no. Joel slaughtered a lot of people and destroyed friends, families, and a whole community to save his surrogate daughter-this is what any parent would do, and you probably WANT your parent to do that to save you, because they are the protector. STILL, it was a brutal, immoral act of mass murder. Part of Ellie may even be proud that Joel did that for her (and would do it again…eh?), but even STILL he didn’t give her any agency in the matter. You can reasonably defend any position in this situation and make a compelling argument, and that is what makes the TLOU games so powerful. As a whole, these two games tap into the human capacity for empathy and our often animalistic resistance to it, in a way you rarely ever see in storytelling. The answer isn’t supposed to be easy to reach or perfectly clear to the eye. We are subjective beings so we can only ever truly know our own perspective….though how well we “know” even that is a debate unto itself. We orbit around that misty locus where ourselves and the other seem about to come into contact, and that’s probably as close as we can ever get to each other, but being willing to try to see through the mist is, I think, what these games are ultimately reaching for. Despite all the ugliness, that is beautiful to me.
You absolutely have to react to Omori. It is an amazing game and a spectacular representation of trauma, repression, anxiety, and a bunch of mental health stuff.
Omori sounds fascinating! I'd love to find some time and look into it at some point
a video about the ellie and david scene would be so interesting!
Great Video man, keep up the great work!!
Thank you!!
Glad i found your channel. Really interesting insight
Thanks so much!!!
You deserve so much more views and subs! Also, I’d love to see you react to tlou 2!
Thank you so much! Yes TLOU 2 coming soon!
Oh boy, you're going to have a field trip with the second game! XD
i would LOVE for you to cover the show Yellowjackets!
I’ll have to check it out sometime! Thank you for the recommendation!
I love the video and I will say Ellie had no reason to feel like their life and their sacrifice was an obligation to do so because the entire game she feels an obligation to be the cure to become the cure to make the cure because of all the trauma and loss that she’s received, but all in all it is her in her head, obligating herself in order to deal with the trauma to feel like everything was worth it in the end and that all of the pain she went through and all of the people she lost didn’t die for nothing but that way of thinking is an obligation of thought because you shouldn’t feel like you owe your life to everyone in the world because this is the equivalent to turning the train to kill one person to say five or turning the train to kill five and save one. So even Ellie is not necessarily in the right or the wrong, but should generally speaking not have an obligation to try and fix a virus that has changed the world so thoroughly and so horribly it is nearly impossible to return the entire earth back into a normal society.
Hey, awesome video. Honestly I thought this was someone with millions of subscribers when i was listening to your video, and I just realized that is not the fact. You deserve much more! However here is a suggestion, since you did this video so good. It would be interesting for you to do kinda similar video to this in regards to "The Walking Dead: The Final Season" or season 1, even though I would prefer The Final Season. The game is absolute emotional rollercoaster so it would be interesting to see how you would describe it to us from your point of view.
Cheers!
I can't imagine what it was like for Ellie when she and Riley got bit and whwt happened in that mall after Riley turned. I think it's probably obvious Ellie had to kill Riley or at least was attacked by her. Jsut having your best friend attack you would probably be traumatic alone it if she had to kill her I don't even want to know. All i cna think is thst Ellie definitely sat there and screamed and cried wondering why she wasn't turning. She probably even thought of suicide at some point. Definitely a lot of trauma and then with having Tess and Sam get bit.
23:23 oh you skipped the part where Ellie in this game and in the sjow says "it can't be for nothing" which she means she in that moment doesn't actually care what happens to her aslong as (I'll even bring the show into it) she has her Sally Ride moment. That line i referenced plays into a lot of why Ellie feels the way she does in the second game. I'll subscribe to see if you take that mindset into the next game and maybe into what happens in S2 of TLOU
What i meant by the Sally Ride moment is what could have happemed to her no matter small would've meant something for humanity. 29:28 true 29:46 yes exactly that's the way I look at it
this literally has nothing to do with the topic of this video but i love randomly seeing your cat run past your door during different times of the video lmaoo
LOL I had a laugh while editing watching their zoomies in the background
I'd love to see your reaction to the Red Dead Redemption 2 storyline. And where you think Dutch Van der Linde's mind started to break
If you love westerns you'll love this game and story
I think it would make a great video to do a reaction to the Life Is Strange games. Each one of those games has their own trauma and stories that are so interesting to see, would love to see your perspective on it.
Not a deep analysis? Brother this is one of the best analyses of TLOU I’ve ever seen!!!
Dude thank you so much!! I really appreciate you recognizing this as an analysis!
Can't wait for part 2 :)
This got recommended to me since im watching a playthriugh of the 2nd game rn...i need one for the tv show and the second game!
the TV show would be awesome to do! I have part two coming out this week!:) Thanks so much for watching
@@traumadelic awesome glad to hear! I watched it again yesterday with my partner since he loved playing the games and had me watch game play of it!
Please do the second game! 🙏🙏🙏 I would love to see your input
This week!
regarding consent, could one make the argument the fireflies and Marlene were doing a kindness to Ellie by not telling her? From the fireflies perspective this was a world saving cure. They could have given Ellie the choice, but it would have only been the illusion of choice because the reality was that no matter what Ellie chose, they were going to do the surgery either way. Putting the stakes of the entire planet on the decision of a 14 year is a lot and had she said no, she simply would have died in fear. I'm not saying it's right, but I do think there's an argument there.
I feel like what Joel’s been threw should mean he has shell shock instead of ptsd even if they are similar
No, you made sense. Now I can restart the sequel and understand it better. I never finished the game.
Would love to see what a therapist thinks of the -Life is strange series: particularly the first one~ Lot of trauma in that game that’s not always acknowledged
i may not be a trauma expert, but i love this and i have major sleep issues sometimes..i can only imagine that for someone like Joel it's way worse.
regarding the effect David had on Ellie i feel like after that happened i think Ellie was a lot more distant in some of her conversations...almost like she was haunted by it for a long time...not that i would be surpised by that.
while i completley understand Joel not wanting to lose Ellie...as a humanitarian i cannot justify him massacring the Fireflies, especially their main doctor who was crucial to creating a vaccine. ONE LIFE, even Ellie...does not out weigh the many.
We need part II !!!
Soon!😎
Aaaa you accepted my request, thanks
Ellie: “I was supposed to die in that hospital…my life would’ve f*cken mattered”
You should do a video on Telltale Games, The Walking Dead season 1. Doesn't look as good as this game but it's got quite a few moments you can do a good deep dive on with trauma and loss.
Playing Last of Us 2 gave me trauma, I’m terrified of golf clubs now.
It’s always pissed me off how Marlene still tried to talk Joel into leaving Ellie in the final hospital scene by saying Ellie would make the choice to sacrifice herself if given the option. Even if Ellie would decide to sacrifice herself, she is a child and can’t rationally make that decision. Marlene was the truly awful.
Curious to see your take on last of us part 2
Gonna be a wild ride
Last of us part 2 has to be next its much much more involved with ptsd
Can’t wait to address TLOU part 2!
I loved listening to your thoughts on TLOU and hope you delve into TLOU2 in the future!! I have a request though, I would love for you to speak about Mr Robot by Sam Esmail. It’s quite a big ask I know. But I would love your thoughts if it aligns with your area of expertise ☺️
Could you do Arthur Morgan from RDR2 when he’s talking to sister caldron
I would love to see you do the last of us part 2 there is a lot of trauma I think in part 2
you def gotta do the second game
DO AS MUCH GAMING (& ESPECIALLY TLOU STUFF AS YOU CAN. This fandom in particular could damn well benefit from exactly your insight.
Plus your audience would likely spike. It's how I got here.
I'll try my best!!! haha thank you so much for your support!!
Part II analyst would be ☠️
I mean 🔥🔥🔥
This game is awfully traumatic for the fictional carachters in game but.... one as a player is also affected by this game and the choices you have to make in game! There was more than one occasion where I heavily disputed or overlooked the decision I was about to take... that my fellow gamers is the beauty of this game! Is so facking immersive and traumatic that you actually live that world in your head! The first 2,3 times I replayed this game, depending on my mood...I had to take a break from it because it really affects you! Seeing all those traumatic events and decisions is so facked up! Lol... that's why so so many people love this series!
If we have to sacrifice a child for something man made imma b a on joel timing for sure
You should make a video on the last of us part 2! If you haven't already
Please note in the title if it isn’t your first time watching this game. It’s so annoying to find that out late in the video.
Can you do another one of these, but with the last of us, part two❤
Hoping to get part 2 done soon!
Is there a ytou playlist?
I do think that when you're talking about the fate of millions of people, the medical consent of one person loses value as part of a utilitarian calculus, like what about the consent that other people have? Their right to not be ripped apart by monsters or be turned into monsters by a viral fungal infection or live under a totalitarian police state because of said fungus or any of the other innumerable rights people have in a civilized society that cannot reform because of said fungus again?
The ethics of it all become far more complex than just a single situation in isolation and it's why the whole thing becomes so tragic, because Joel can't do the best thing for himself or for Ellie without it being at the expense of literally everyone else in the world and so that part of him just says "screw everyone else, the only thing that matters is her", it's the endpoint of unconditional parental love and the danger of tying your entire identity to something, where in Joel's mind, the only thing that makes his life meaningful, that could ever make his life meaningful is being a father. It doesn't just restrict your judgment or your perspective, it restricts your empathy. Joel never so much as considered the morality of what he was doing, it only crossed his mind when Marlene tells him Ellie would want this, because he knows it's true and yet he can't respect it because if she wants this, if she would want to die for this, 'then I have to protect her from herself'.
In preserving the thing that gives his life meaning, he has robbed her of the meaning that she has been seeking so desperately throughout all of this and it causes her unbearable mental duress that he can't bring himself to help her through because it would mean losing her and even then, heck he probably wouldn't know how to help her precisely because his perspective is so limited.
Will you bee doing a review of the last of us part 2?
Yes! Coming this week!:)