@@luistpuig you SMs are a strange bunch. I'll stick to General Service, used to work night shift for three years, I want to see the sun at some point. You US Navy?
“And most of them are decent enough, there just trying to make a living” That’s one of my favorite things about MIB, it goes out of its way to say that most aliens aren’t evil.
They may all not be evil but we find out in MIB2 that there are a lot of them on the planet who are up to no good. Jeebs for one. The Ballchinian and his friends for others.
2:50 the novelization added this. “You put a bunch of people together and you spook them, what you have is a mob. And a mob is only as smart as its dumbest member.”
Ive been saying a person is smart but people are dumb for years. Couldve sworn that was just my own observation bit its possible I just absorbed K's wprds unconsciously. Im so confused.
I love when K got asked "Is it worth it?" He immediately answered "it's worth it" probably because of what he's done as an MIB, but then followed up after a brief pause "if you're strong enough" because he throught about it from J's perspective and knew for a newbie it would be difficult to adjust.
He knew it was worth it because he has been a part of MiB for decades. He knew how much it takes from you because he gave up those decades being with his wife for the sake of keeping humanity safe from hostile aliens.
Yeah well umm no not really because they didn't have that in mind when they made this movie , this will always be a 1 and done classic not a franchise to me
@@dorkbrandon4422 lol you can live in your bubble. 3rd Movie didn't ruin anything, it only made 1st movie even better on second watch with added context. It's like better call saul adding context and giving breaking bad regular scenes deeper meaning.
I watched it again this week. It holds up perfectly. Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones have crazy chemistry, the jokes are still fun, the CGI looks decent. Great movie
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. " A line that sticks with me every time I see a crowd reacting to something, no matter what it is.
This reminds me of Loki. People want to be controlled. People say they want freedom but in reality they don’t. People want to be told what to do. Everyone has a dream but very few actually chase their dream.
It's imperative to remain a person, and not part of a crowd. We all need community, but do not let yourself be merely part of a group. We were created as individuals and we are responsible to God and Man for our own actions. Don't let others do your thinking, and don't let other others disrespect your individualism and force you into their mold. When LGBrandon says, if you don't vote for me, "you ain't black", that's exactly what he's doing to you. When you label people according to their color and not their character, you let them define you and to them you become "people" and not a person. God sees you as an individual.
3:45 - 4:15 I like moments like this where the protagonist is given time to think over a life changing decision, it shows that they take the matter seriously. Nowadays in movies the protagonist instantly makes the decision without thinking about it.
Exactly ! He would have got up the second everybody expected him to. 3:57 is the exact moment recent films would have made the character run after K "Oh hey come back ! I made up my mind" Instead, he breaths out like any real person might do. Great, simple stuff. It takes 20 seconds and it's more impactful than a lot of other scenes
Dude, I remember seeing MIB 2 when I was 12 in theaters and I couldn't understand why it was so goofy lol. I didn't even realize the original was a comedy! It was all so subtle.
Funny enough, I think that’s ACTUALLY WHY I was a bit disappointed in this movie as a kid after being SUPER HYPED to see it (cuz I was too young and dumb to appreciate things like dialogue and character-building and just wanted to see aliens get blasted) but GREW TO APPRECIATE IT A LOT MORE as I got older. I think A LOT OF THAT had to do with me seeing this AFTER Independence Day and Starship Troopers (which are much more PURE sci-fi action schlock).
I love the scene at 4:00 where he’s just thinking for hours about the proposition to that music with the nyc backdrop. Lotta movies these days just skip the smaller yet highly important beats like these. Brings realism and atmosphere to your story rather than just rushing the plot along with nonstop exposition from characters
Facts. Movies nowadays always have rushed convo’s that are just trying to get to the next scene especially if it’s an action movie. Small details like this where it keeps the movie from feeling being rushed are rare now.
It's one of the scenes that I remember well in this movie. It shows us the last moments of Jay being a civilian, thinking hard on the biggest decision of his life.
K's quote about a person vs people really is one of the most important lessons of all time. It's not just a good sounding quote, it's one of the most useful thought processes to keep in mind at all times if you're dealing with either 1 person or multiple people in any given circumstance.
Yea man that line resonated with me since i first heard it in 97 and i was only 12 at the time but what K says it's absolutely correct...some people look at this classic as just a comedy but it also holds some powerful messages as well and i think that's something that most classic comedies(like Trading Places or Friday) have
@@sle2470 yea that pretty much sums me up though Despise is a strong word..i wouldn't say i despise people but i do have a general dislike of people..like K said Panicky and Stupid for the most part.. we're simultaneously capable of the most beautiful of things and the most atrociously stupid and i try not to ever be the latter
And the thing some may not like to admit is that, *you* are probably a part of a group, a mindless flock. Hurts your pride to admit that, but it's worth to
@@Just_SnowySOMETIMES that Flock is Harmless, like thinking Classic Coke is BETTER than Pepsi, despite Coca Cola LITERALLY DISPROVING this. SOMETIMES it's SUPER Dangerous, like when we had people toting Fake Cures, like claiming ivermectin CURED Covid, even AFTER the Research came out that it was a COVID PLACEBO!! The TRULY terrifying people are the ones who SEE the Truth, Acknowledge Truth, but then WILLINGLY CHOOSE The Dangerous Lies!!
"Cab drivers." "No, not as many as you'd think." I always loved how quick K's reply to that was, and how knowing as well. Like it's SUCH an obvious observation that he answers more or less reflexively.
I think it also had to do with the presumption that many cab drivers in 90s New York were immigrants, so making the further guess that they are even more alien would be what the average person would think if they knew aliens were on Earth.
"15 minutes ago, you knew people were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow".........That kind of speech, would (If I was young and fit) have me volunteer for that type of work.
such a great scene. wish they kind of had more of that throughout the series. its like they hinted at a more mature thinking sci-fi kind of movie but just gave up and put lasers and monsters in there.
This lesson changed my life. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals." It's been proven time and time again during my time working in emergency response. Abiding to this fact, I have been able to save countless lives by keeping information on a need-to-know basis and steering intelligent individuals in the right direction.
@Sheerluck Holmes I couldn’t think of anything more stupid. “Hey guys, let’s get rid of all politicians save for one so that they can rule over us in a dictatorship!” You’re the “people” K was talking about.
The fundamental problem isn't that people are stupid. People are dangerously smart, they've just been conditioned to not stop and think about what they're doing. They're taught from the start that we need ACTION and we NEED IT NOW and if you ever hesitate you're A SLOW HELPLESS WEAKLING So they never really question the beliefs they already hold. Restricting knowledge helps nobody, the actual flaw is that we're missing a vital component of education: critical analysis and self-assessment.
@@nickmalachai2227 would have to disagree. People are not inclined to lean towards the truth of the matter as much as they are the general populace of a belief. People want what they're familiar with over what is based on facts. People are not smart because they think and a whole and respond accordingly... Good or bad. But an individual by himself and think logically and make a decision based off what is right without that influence
Damm, you said 24 years later. This movie was released in 1997 my year of birth can't believe I'm 24 now, still I think myself of some 18 19 yr old kid
That's Agent K, pointing out the difference between the psychology of the _individual_ and the psychology of the _crowd._ A sterling bit of wisdom I didn't know I _needed_ when I first saw this movie.
I confess it was very late in my life that I realized that the scene implies that the "one dumb kid who got lost on the wrong back road" K mentions...is K himself.
"Gentlemen, congratulations! You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training." Such as the ability to follow orders without thinking. In a way, he is mockingly telling them how naive they are, without them ever realizing it because their memories of him telling them this will be erased in a minute.
@@Alrokako yeah it's worst when they put female and trans in same pool with male In the name of feministm and diversity. Also To die and protect feminist interest/anti masculinity society .
I just love the idea that K just randomly stumbled into this life of constant looming apocalypses and desperate last second saves in an endless and thankless struggle and became the best at it because he just got lost one night.
“It’s worth it….if you’re strong enough.” Love that beat. Most people are so content within their bubbles that they’d just rather consume whatever information at face value. But it takes a strong individual to seek out the truth for themselves.
i am a seeker of truth. how fast can a man orgasm if he hasn't had sex with a woman in over 6 years? "1.2.3. 3. How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? The World may never know.
"and one dumb kid who got lost on the wrong backroad" all these years, I never realized K was talking about himself--- I though J's joke was just that...a joke.
All good points but i'm hard pressed to think of another actor of the time that could have made this movie's humor work, Jones' unique brand of deadpan delivery is perfect for the dry humor and the parts where a little somberness/seriousness is required, he was the ideal actor for the role. So yes, a film is always a team effort but TLJ is the anchor that keeps this movie from becoming slapstick and elevates it to something "legitimate" and with a lil more depth than expected, whereas other (maybe none) actors may not have been able to pull this off
I have two favourite quotes. Edgar saying "the only thing that pulls any weight around here is my God dam truck! Figures." And Agent J "you know what the difference is between you and me? I make this look good." 😎
When all they left the guns in the table, J is the only one that double checks the safety is on. Also, K never mentioned that he was the lost kid that offered the alien the flowers, but J recognized him immediately.
Imagine being in his position: probably losing your mum and dad, best friends, siblings, nieces and nephews, grandparents etc. Such incredible writing having him sit there in silence for so long.
The thing is, it's difficult to imagine his position because we don't know if he has any of those. Because his social life is blank, it's easy to assume perhaps he gave up very little socially. He doesn't appear to have anything to miss after he joins.
@@unigaming9921 Not only his friends and family, but any future friends he would have made. The only friends he can have now are aliens and other agents.
Not to mention, the MIB would have likely tracked down any and all friends and family he had and neural used them, ensuring none of them would have any memory of his existence.
@@ShawndaPrawn Eh, not necessarily. We see with K's family (his wife) they just make up a cover story that he went into a coma, not erasing all memory of his existence. They show it in a newspaper at the end of the movie that he "came out of a 35 year coma" and they show a picture with him back with his wife, after he retires and J neuralizes his memories of working at MiB.
@@arnoldsherrill6305 correct. that is why i wasn't surprised with X percentage of people dealing with covid in X way. A person can be smart, people are mostly dumb. I am a person sometimes and people the other time lol.
the way K says "oh yeah, its worth it. ...... if youre strong enough!" walking and kinda stumbling along feels like he's been waiting for this moment for a long time..... :)
My favorite soliloquy of that whole series of movies: "1500 years ago, everybody knew the earth was the center... Imagine what you'll know... tomorrow." A very cynical but accurate celebration of rationality.
Exactly. What we "know" is only temporary. Not only because our existence is only temporary, but because our understanding of reality as a species is constantly changing. On an individual level, it still applies, because our opinions on almost everything is constantly changing. What we "know" at 16, is very different to what we "know" at 30
Partially accurate. He said "500 years ago, everyone knew the Earth was flat" The ancient Greeks figured out the Earth was round in the 5th century BC (about 2,500 years ago). The idea that it was widely believed that the Earth was flat not that long ago is a total myth.
@@thefaithslayer2553 Beat me to it. Even ignoring the Greeks, sailors (and probably anyone near the shore who had thought about the question) had long since realized it couldn't be flat given ships appeared to dip below the horizon.
@@thefaithslayer2553 Yeah true I was like what the hell. It was more like the other way around, it could be said that the average person 1500 years ago thought the earth was flat because it was the dark middle ages and all that. But that’s also not fair because they most likely weren’t ever thinking about it in the first place. And 500 years ago makes sense for the whole debate between Galileo and the church about the earth or the sun being in the center of the cosmos. So I think some writer mixed the two up somewhere, or Tommy lee jones messed up in the scene but that’s very unlikely
What were the deeper meanings? The one good thing the movie did was prove how important framing is. A black guy was able to shoot a little white girl in the head, because of framing. But considering what is said to him later, this should have failed him as a candidate.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." This is one of those quotes that drives my way of thinking. Don't let yourself get caught up in the crowd.
Friend of mine is a commercial fisherman. I asked him once how he knows where to fish. First thing he said, "Well, you can follow the crowd, but the crowd is wrong. And even if the crowd is right, then you have to share with the crowd." Applicable to a lot of endeavors.
@@tuilleri to answer the meaning behind it. You can talk to a person 1 on 1 and they can understand and try and listen and follow what you are saying, but when you try to talk to a group they are more likely to not listen and give into a mob mentality. So if 1 dumb person starts to panic or make a scene a few more people are likely to and when a lot of people are panicking, everyone will panic. So a singular person can be smart, but a group of people is as dumb as the dumbest person in the group. As for the second part for applying it in buisness, he was saying if you follow the group it's only going to end bad or little success, whereas if you do your own thing you either are going to have no success or have great success. Like if a group of buisnessmen open fast food in an area of town, following In Their footsteps will either lead you to fail if everyone else fails, or only moderate success because everyone else has a fast food place. Now if you opened an actual restaurant instead of fast food, you still have the possibility to fail, but if you succeed you are much more likely to succeed greatly. Either way you have a chance of failure, but doing your own thing and going your own way you are more likely to find great success
It’s a beautiful scene especially with what came before it. And I love they show J really thinking about it. Cutting ties with everyone you’ve ever known and stepping across that threshold is terrifying. Not knowing what’s beyond that dark first step and not having a way back. I’m honestly surprised the MIB have so many members with the kind of sacrifice they have to make
It sounds kinda intriguing…,..sometimes certain people just become so outcasted that it really doesn’t matter to get close to anyone anymore…..and believe it or not these people can still care from a distance even if that means never getting close to anyone ever again. The outcasted child doesn’t always burn down the village. Sometimes the outcasted child continues to love even if it’s not reciprocated. It’s similar to how the Jedi order worked in Star Wars. Jedi weren’t allowed to date or get too attached to anyone. It was always about balance. Everyone’s balance is different. Certain people can do just fine alone. Humans may in fact be social beings but one doesn’t necessarily have to get close to others to be social. I’m not saying J was outcasted but I am saying that people can and have cut ties with everyone they knew before and it’s not always so obvious why but at the end of the day we’re all just individuals with our own choices and preferences.
"You get to meet extra terrestrials, but you're never allowed to become close with another human being." Geeky Introverts: I see this as an absolute win!
It's the little details that make this scene. Like the fact all the military guys just lay their guns down, yes with trigger discipline and not sweeping anybody, but still with the kind of carelessness caused by too much familiarity. Meanwhile at 0:19 J checks that his is empty before putting it on the table. Just that extra hint that beneath the attitude and act is a highly conscientious and intelligent man.
J didn't check anything, he just glances at the back of the gun. That doesn't give you any useful information about whether or not a round is chambered.
@@Angaraman Which would be great if those were something that _had_ a safety lever on them. But those are Sig Sauer P225's, and they don't have a safety to check. It _does_ have a decocker lever, though (note the exposed hammer on the back). Using that would render the gun safe-ish, but not really safe. It's a double action, so there's that extra pull on the trigger for the first shot, but...that wouldn't stop it from being fired at all.
This is a solid quote. It's often stated that people are dumb, but this highlights the intelligence of a singular person removed from that ignorant crowd.
I love this scene for an entirely different reason: this was New York at its peak. Late 90s, economy doing well, crime down, subways working, before it was turned into a tax shelter for despots, and the original WTC stood still. It was the best time to be in New York.
I remember those words whenever I'm facing troubles. In 2018 I went to New York by myself, my last day there I searched for that bench because of those wise words. I found a bench, I'm sure it wasn't the one, sat there and reflected upon those words. I'm so grateful to whoever wrote them.
When I was a kid I thought K was being serious about people knowing the earth was the center of the universe and flat bit. Mainly because I saw the word "knew" as absolute. I'm glad I can appreciate the depth of what he meant now as an adult and that what we think we know isn't the full picture.
I said it before back when I was 14 and I will say it again: “You can have the healthiest eyes ever but still be blind to the truth.” I learned that through experiencing abuse.
Well considering that they passed him even though he shot the kid, when I was young it made sense but these days I know that he should have failed and the others should have passed.
Technically humans figured out the earth was round first, figuring out that the earth wasn't the center of the universe was far more recent. Well, some people knew, but the Roman inquisition threatened to torture Galileo for spreading the "heretical idea" that Earth wasn't the center of the universe in the 17th century- less than 500 years ago.
A couple of things these scenes do well: 1. When K is explaining to J what MIB is K picks up on Js skepticism/sarcasm when he says” aww you brought that tall man some flowers”. He proceeds to then reinforce what he’s telling J by showing him the creatures in the coffee room to show J it’s real instead of just pictures in a folder. 2. He uses the chronological events of earth being the center of the universe, the earth being, flat and “15 minutes ago you knew humans were alone on this planet”. 3. He confirms Js knowledge of how a person is smart but a group of people are stupid and panicky. 4. “Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow” is a tactical line used to spark Js curiosity. Finally, #5, he instigates Js ego by telling him it’s worth it only “if you’re strong enough”, challenging Js competitive nature and giving him an itch to prove that he is indeed strong enough. Very strong scenes.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals." I saw this movie when it came out, and this quote has stuck with me. I have seen this quote be proven over and over and over again. This movie will never not be relevant.
I think it may have made Will Smith’s job as an actor a bit easier. His best work can be found in films when he is not the leading man. MIB and Independence Day.
@@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449 I think it also gave Will Smith a breather, in a role that he didn't have to go full-method in. Six Degrees of Separation came out a few years earlier; he later mentioned that the work he put into that role wasn't something he wanted to do again in his career (still a pretty good movie).
@@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449 I personally dont find any of Will Smiths movies great tbh, i dont like him as an actor, he just seems to be the nice rapper guy in all movies. Bad Boys 1 and 2 were good.
@@Gameflyer001 I agree with you. I was disappointed in his performance in “Enemy of the State” opposite Gene Hackman. I think he was miscast as his acting abilities were not up to snuff. The same with “I Robot.” I could literally feel him struggle with the fact he had to carry the film as the leading man. He had no backup.
I remember seeing this in the theater and hearing that line wishing everyone in the world could hear it at that moment. That line is more true now than it has ever been
Made it sound kind of bleak with the 'severing all ties' bit, but he still made friends. In 15 years K had the picture of a pug sitting over his bed. Anybody visiting would think he was just being reminiscent over a pet, when in reality that pug was one of his closest friends that he had long conversations with. It is so worth it.
"Imagine what you'll 'know' tomorrow". I always read this simply as "imagine what new exciting discoveries are coming in the future", but the emphasis on "know" makes me realise it's more about self-assured ignorance/complacency. Like: "imagine the next thing you'll soon be so sure of you can't possibly fathom the deeper reality that lies even beyond that, waiting to be realised". It's quite profound, really.
I never fully grokked the "a person is smart, people are dumb panicky dangerous animals" line until COVID started. Like, yeah, I recognized some truth to it when I rewatched this movie as a teenager, but it wasn't until 2 years ago that I actually understood it.
Of course, those people who like to think they're the only ones going against the crowd are often, in reality, part of a pretty large group of people who are catching people up in their own panic and hysteria
That's kind true about everything. Especially in America. From the 1600, 1700, to the 1960's it was not okay to be black, Hispanic, Asain, Italian, Irish and though it was there country first, A native American or different native American tribe From 1950-2016 it wasn't okay to be a working woman, Polish, German, Russian, Jewish, Gay, Middle Eastern or a Muslim And 4 years to today it wasn't okay to be a Republican, Conservative, White, a many, Straight or a Trump supporter. Just think what it won't be okay to be tomorrow
@@tjayenterprises5190 you also left out religion. And Yes. Because people have always acted like dumb, panicking dangerous animals over race politics and religion.
the 1st MIB was more than just comedy in a sci-fi setting. It had some really make you think moments. The 2nd one had some of those but substituted to much with shallow Johny Knoxville and the girl villain comedy/bad dialogue .
The MiB as this entirely apolitical organization dedicated to the peaceful refuge and settlement of all peoples of the universe makes this commitment worth it. You might never be remembered on Earth, but your actions will be remembered throughout the stars.
Timeless classic, timeless cast, timeless duo. I love everything TLJ and Will Smith, but I will forever argue this is some of their best work in this series of movies.
Literally when this movie came out we still considered Pluto a planet. We hadn't had net positive energy from nuclear fusion. You can 3D print most of a gun. In the palm of your hand you have the entirety of human kinds' knowledge whenever you want it. "Imagine what WE'LL KNOW" tomorrow"
In the pantheon of profound quotes from great philosophers and comedians throughout all human history, the quote 'a person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals' is my favourite, beating out half of ancient Greece and 1970's era Robin Williams
That quote has always stuck with me since I first heard it. And damn is it true. An individual will accept things better than if you put that same person in a group and they will be swayed by the pack mentality more often than for fear of being an outcast and afraid to think for themselves. Tommy and Will were a fantastic pairing for these films.
Actually its proven in history that many believed the earth was round they just couldn't scientifically prove it. Edit: My bad folks when i typed this i meant proven through modern day technology. Yes the bible mentions this fact and some historical figures after the bible books that make mention of this also proved it. The earth was proven round thousands of years ago. Just remember my initial comment is quite vague so insulting me or saying i dont know what im talking about is kinda pointless as its a vague comment.
Just like George Carlin said. "The individual is beautiful. The individual is wonderful to meet and a delight to get to know. Its groups that are the problem"
I think Terry Pratchett once said something along the lines of "a crowd has the IQ of its dumbest member divided by the number of people in that crowd."
“1500 years ago, people *knew* the earth was the center of the universe. 500 year ago, people *knew* the earth was flat. 15 minutes ago, you knew humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.” I’ve always loved this line. Knowledge isn’t a state, it’s a process. 🙏
I haven’t seen this movie since I was a kid. Now I have to rewatch it, purely because this sequence alone is so much better than I remember it. Moments of brilliant satire (“…what we’ve come to expect from years of government training”), a brilliant blend of the mundane and the wondrous, the great chemistry between Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, and the latter’s mix of gravitas and resignation that so perfectly fits the character. Great stuff.
1991 here…i rewatched a not returned copy of “the mask” on vhs till it could no longer be played, weather that has helped or hindered me in life has most definitely been decided.
3:16 -- "The catch? The catch is you will sever every human contact; nobody will ever know you exist, anywhere...ever." Probably one of the saddest lines in MiB. The man who is now Agent K; he was once a boy on his way to a date, with a bouquet of flowers for his girl. But, an alien ship landed near his walking path to her house. Instead of giving his bouquet to his date, he had to instead give it to an alien diplomat. He then became K. He never got to date his girl. She grew up without him and lived her life somewhat normally. (We see this when K is using the satellite to look at her.) And even after leaving the MiB, he can't reunite with her; they're too different. K becomes the postmaster for a small town after retirement from the MiB, all because he's too broken to live a normal life in a normal way. He then has to be taken back into service because he can't hack it as a civilian. And as far as I know, K never left the MiB after that. I haven't watched MiB: International, so I don't know if they referenced K's passing in that movie.
"Gentlemen...Congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training." Just now, years after seeing this movie, it finally occurs to me that this might not have been intended as a compliment! ~Slaps forehead.~
This film, despite being a comedy - really hits home a few times. This scene being one of them. Fantasticly written and delivered, hauntingly realistic. Bravo.
Having a movie be entirely humorous is called bad writing. You need serious moments in order to punctuate the comedy and give the audience breathing room.
I've long thought that K's observation about the difference between a Person and People is one of the most insightful lines a Science Fiction movie has ever produced. Master Class delivery by TLJ, too.
“You’re everything we’ve come to expect from years of government training.” 😂 I’ve always loved that little dig LOL
They're just looking for the best of the best of the best, SIR!
...except the Submarine Force, we want independent thinkers, not robots. Obviously the movie makers never met us...
@@DogSerious with HONORS!
@@luistpuig you SMs are a strange bunch. I'll stick to General Service, used to work night shift for three years, I want to see the sun at some point. You US Navy?
@@luistpuig yeah, but still following orders from government...
“And most of them are decent enough, there just trying to make a living”
That’s one of my favorite things about MIB, it goes out of its way to say that most aliens aren’t evil.
They may all not be evil but we find out in MIB2 that there are a lot of them on the planet who are up to no good. Jeebs for one. The Ballchinian and his friends for others.
@@Rockhound6165 There just like humans there are many humans that are up to no good.
Saying most of them is dangerous thinking, even for a science fiction movie
Remember, they are just like us. Just like us.
@@JacobVonRoker i would say most of us are decent enough, just trying to make a living, no?
@FATEd Pondera sounds a lot like humans.
2:50 the novelization added this. “You put a bunch of people together and you spook them, what you have is a mob. And a mob is only as smart as its dumbest member.”
“The IQ of the mob is the IQ of it’s stupidest member, divided by the number of mobsters “
Terry Pratchett
Daaaaymm
Ive been saying a person is smart but people are dumb for years. Couldve sworn that was just my own observation bit its possible I just absorbed K's wprds unconsciously. Im so confused.
It explains A LOT of mass murders and genocides.
This is scarily true.
I love when K got asked "Is it worth it?" He immediately answered "it's worth it" probably because of what he's done as an MIB, but then followed up after a brief pause "if you're strong enough" because he throught about it from J's perspective and knew for a newbie it would be difficult to adjust.
He knew it was worth it because he has been a part of MiB for decades. He knew how much it takes from you because he gave up those decades being with his wife for the sake of keeping humanity safe from hostile aliens.
The fact that K had took responsibility for looking after J ever since his father died in Boris's hand in 1969 was such a big secret to keep
Yeah well umm no not really because they didn't have that in mind when they made this movie , this will always be a 1 and done classic not a franchise to me
Not sure he paid child support though😂
@@dorkbrandon4422 lol you can live in your bubble. 3rd Movie didn't ruin anything, it only made 1st movie even better on second watch with added context. It's like better call saul adding context and giving breaking bad regular scenes deeper meaning.
@@dorkbrandon4422 wasn't this based on comics in the first place though?
Though now I’m thinking if time travel didn’t happen was J’s father in MIB
Cosidering K has been waiting for this moment for 30 years, he's hiding it pretty well.
Reference to men in black 3 nice
You can find details that’s what’s so great about movies
Spot on bro!!!
Right.
He is a great actor
I watched it again this week. It holds up perfectly. Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones have crazy chemistry, the jokes are still fun, the CGI looks decent. Great movie
agreed. the picture quality still holds up today for a late 90's movie.
He’s the happy yin to Tommy lee Jones cold yang
They do have incredible chemistry, you're absolutely right. Great comment, totally agree. Gem of a film.
Industrial Light & Magic weren't messing around in the 90's.
How do the two sequels stack up against this one?
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. "
A line that sticks with me every time I see a crowd reacting to something, no matter what it is.
This reminds me of Loki. People want to be controlled. People say they want freedom but in reality they don’t. People want to be told what to do. Everyone has a dream but very few actually chase their dream.
It's imperative to remain a person, and not part of a crowd. We all need community, but do not let yourself be merely part of a group. We were created as individuals and we are responsible to God and Man for our own actions. Don't let others do your thinking, and don't let other others disrespect your individualism and force you into their mold.
When LGBrandon says, if you don't vote for me, "you ain't black", that's exactly what he's doing to you. When you label people according to their color and not their character, you let them define you and to them you become "people" and not a person.
God sees you as an individual.
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@@jeffmuller1489 really, god? Please
Exactly it was a beautiful moral RP moment absolutely genus’s
3:45 - 4:15
I like moments like this where the protagonist is given time to think over a life changing decision, it shows that they take the matter seriously. Nowadays in movies the protagonist instantly makes the decision without thinking about it.
This!
I'm not even sure I could make that decision in one night.
Spot on. It's almost like they want to dumb us down!
Exactly ! He would have got up the second everybody expected him to. 3:57 is the exact moment recent films would have made the character run after K "Oh hey come back ! I made up my mind"
Instead, he breaths out like any real person might do. Great, simple stuff. It takes 20 seconds and it's more impactful than a lot of other scenes
Literally the intro of MiB: International. She even begged to join lmao
I love how much more subdued this film is than the others. The sequels get really over the top, but this one actually makes the MIB feel real.
You're right.
Dude, I remember seeing MIB 2 when I was 12 in theaters and I couldn't understand why it was so goofy lol. I didn't even realize the original was a comedy! It was all so subtle.
@@xflashbacks I agree, but I still love MIB 2. MIB 3 was what got me thinking "Was this really needed?"
ikr, i watched 2 as well, but its the least fav for me in the series. But i kinda liked 3, felt more like return to the roots
Still 1 was peak
Funny enough, I think that’s ACTUALLY WHY I was a bit disappointed in this movie as a kid after being SUPER HYPED to see it (cuz I was too young and dumb to appreciate things like dialogue and character-building and just wanted to see aliens get blasted) but GREW TO APPRECIATE IT A LOT MORE as I got older.
I think A LOT OF THAT had to do with me seeing this AFTER Independence Day and Starship Troopers (which are much more PURE sci-fi action schlock).
I like the sadness you see in Tommy's face after he mentions about having to sever human contact. K knows that sadness
Great acting by Tommy.
A point subtly emphasized when they show him checking in on his wife later in the movie.
He always looks like that. Even when he is happy
His wife.
Yes! Such a subtle change in expressions and tone of voice.
Great acting.
The conversation between K and J on the bench is one of my favorite scenes of all time.
Mine too. What K tells J is one of my favorite quotes. That and Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups
That’s your favorite? Wow. That’s pathetic.
@@jd.3493 Shut up
Mine too. And amazing how timely and fitting it is.
You can use it as an analogy for so many other discussions as well, especially these days.
I love the scene at 4:00 where he’s just thinking for hours about the proposition to that music with the nyc backdrop. Lotta movies these days just skip the smaller yet highly important beats like these. Brings realism and atmosphere to your story rather than just rushing the plot along with nonstop exposition from characters
I fucking live for that shit...i always admire that scene everytime it comes up
Facts. Movies nowadays always have rushed convo’s that are just trying to get to the next scene especially if it’s an action movie. Small details like this where it keeps the movie from feeling being rushed are rare now.
It’s one of my favourite scenes in the whole series. Every-time I see it I always wonder what he thinks about.
Well, Blame that shit on fast food (rush plot) boy.. Chris (dum ass) Nolan.
It's one of the scenes that I remember well in this movie. It shows us the last moments of Jay being a civilian, thinking hard on the biggest decision of his life.
K's quote about a person vs people really is one of the most important lessons of all time. It's not just a good sounding quote, it's one of the most useful thought processes to keep in mind at all times if you're dealing with either 1 person or multiple people in any given circumstance.
I remember George Carlin saying something similar, how he loves individuals but despises groups of people.
Yea man that line resonated with me since i first heard it in 97 and i was only 12 at the time but what K says it's absolutely correct...some people look at this classic as just a comedy but it also holds some powerful messages as well and i think that's something that most classic comedies(like Trading Places or Friday) have
@@sle2470 yea that pretty much sums me up though Despise is a strong word..i wouldn't say i despise people but i do have a general dislike of people..like K said Panicky and Stupid for the most part.. we're simultaneously capable of the most beautiful of things and the most atrociously stupid and i try not to ever be the latter
And the thing some may not like to admit is that, *you* are probably a part of a group, a mindless flock. Hurts your pride to admit that, but it's worth to
@@Just_SnowySOMETIMES that Flock is Harmless, like thinking Classic Coke is BETTER than Pepsi, despite Coca Cola LITERALLY DISPROVING this. SOMETIMES it's SUPER Dangerous, like when we had people toting Fake Cures, like claiming ivermectin CURED Covid, even AFTER the Research came out that it was a COVID PLACEBO!! The TRULY terrifying people are the ones who SEE the Truth, Acknowledge Truth, but then WILLINGLY CHOOSE The Dangerous Lies!!
"Cab drivers." "No, not as many as you'd think." I always loved how quick K's reply to that was, and how knowing as well. Like it's SUCH an obvious observation that he answers more or less reflexively.
I think it also had to do with the presumption that many cab drivers in 90s New York were immigrants, so making the further guess that they are even more alien would be what the average person would think if they knew aliens were on Earth.
"15 minutes ago, you knew people were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow".........That kind of speech, would (If I was young and fit) have me volunteer for that type of work.
such a great scene. wish they kind of had more of that throughout the series. its like they hinted at a more mature thinking sci-fi kind of movie but just gave up and put lasers and monsters in there.
I couldn’t do it. As much as I can’t stand people I absolutely adore persons.
Tomorrow: “So yeah... turns out we’re all just in some alien’s locker.”
This lesson changed my life. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals." It's been proven time and time again during my time working in emergency response. Abiding to this fact, I have been able to save countless lives by keeping information on a need-to-know basis and steering intelligent individuals in the right direction.
Countless? Yeah okay.
@@armyofninjas9055 It'd be wierd/suspicious if they said exact number of lives saved
@Sheerluck Holmes I couldn’t think of anything more stupid. “Hey guys, let’s get rid of all politicians save for one so that they can rule over us in a dictatorship!”
You’re the “people” K was talking about.
The fundamental problem isn't that people are stupid. People are dangerously smart, they've just been conditioned to not stop and think about what they're doing. They're taught from the start that we need ACTION and we NEED IT NOW and if you ever hesitate you're A SLOW HELPLESS WEAKLING
So they never really question the beliefs they already hold. Restricting knowledge helps nobody, the actual flaw is that we're missing a vital component of education: critical analysis and self-assessment.
@@nickmalachai2227 would have to disagree. People are not inclined to lean towards the truth of the matter as much as they are the general populace of a belief. People want what they're familiar with over what is based on facts. People are not smart because they think and a whole and respond accordingly... Good or bad. But an individual by himself and think logically and make a decision based off what is right without that influence
It’s incredible how well that “people are dumb panicky dangerous animals” speech has held up 24 years later.
Unfortunately, it will hold up until the end of days....on every planet in the cosmos.
That's because it has always held up since the beginning of mankind.
Nothing new under the sun. How do you think genocides started?
Damm, you said 24 years later. This movie was released in 1997 my year of birth
can't believe I'm 24 now, still I think myself of some 18 19 yr old kid
@@edinfific2576 And yet life keeps getting better.
That's Agent K, pointing out the difference between the psychology of the _individual_ and the psychology of the _crowd._ A sterling bit of wisdom I didn't know I _needed_ when I first saw this movie.
"AWWW you brought that tall man some flowers 😊" that line along with the photo never fails to make me laugh
I confess it was very late in my life that I realized that the scene implies that the "one dumb kid who got lost on the wrong back road" K mentions...is K himself.
Maybe k almost thinks twice if he actually made the right decision that night.
Those flowers were for his fiancée that he never got to see again (until later)
Fr lol 😂😂😂😂😂
"Gentlemen, congratulations! You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training."
Such as the ability to follow orders without thinking.
In a way, he is mockingly telling them how naive they are, without them ever realizing it because their memories of him telling them this will be erased in a minute.
@Baba Foodle Which is why I never joined the military
@@Alrokako yeah it's worst when they put female and trans in same pool with male
In the name of feministm and diversity. Also To die and protect feminist interest/anti masculinity society .
Found the incel ^^
@@Alrokako you never joined the military because you can't take authority?
@@XpVersusVista Damn right
I just love the idea that K just randomly stumbled into this life of constant looming apocalypses and desperate last second saves in an endless and thankless struggle and became the best at it because he just got lost one night.
Almost as if the Universe was sending him a sign...
It happens. I got lost and found the worlds fair once too.
@@Hoshimaru57 simpsons did it
When does he tells this story?
@@viniciusvbf22 did you not watch the video?
“It’s worth it….if you’re strong enough.” Love that beat. Most people are so content within their bubbles that they’d just rather consume whatever information at face value. But it takes a strong individual to seek out the truth for themselves.
That’s me. I’m a critical thinker about things and seeing things at face value. I know, believe me.
i am a seeker of truth. how fast can a man orgasm if he hasn't had sex with a woman in over 6 years?
"1.2.3.
3. How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? The World may never know.
Thankfully for us dumb people, the new CEO of Twitter will make truthseeking harder....
@@slobodanreka1088 I see what you mean but with all due respect: I find that hard to believe.
@@voiceacticon667 Remember how last year we found vaccine passports and isolation camps hard to believe?
After yesterday, this clip is more relevant than ever.
"and one dumb kid who got lost on the wrong backroad"
all these years, I never realized K was talking about himself--- I though J's joke was just that...a joke.
As a child i never realized but Tommy Lee Jones carried the fuck out of this movie
the movie wasn't bad tho, he didn't actually "carried" it just make it overall much better and enjoyable than it already was
He can't make it good without the other actors.
All good points but i'm hard pressed to think of another actor of the time that could have made this movie's humor work, Jones' unique brand of deadpan delivery is perfect for the dry humor and the parts where a little somberness/seriousness is required, he was the ideal actor for the role. So yes, a film is always a team effort but TLJ is the anchor that keeps this movie from becoming slapstick and elevates it to something "legitimate" and with a lil more depth than expected, whereas other (maybe none) actors may not have been able to pull this off
TLJ really is a national treasure; and he's from little old San Saba, TX. Truly a diamond in the rough.
no the hell he didnt lmao will was the star everyone was loving lol
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." I love that quote...
And it's true too
I have two favourite quotes. Edgar saying "the only thing that pulls any weight around here is my God dam truck! Figures."
And Agent J "you know what the difference is between you and me? I make this look good." 😎
I use this quote all the time, and people don't realize I'm pulling it from MIB lol
Extremely accurate quote. Just look at today’s state of affairs.
Me too! But in portuguese hahah
Same here. Forgot that was where i got it from.
That's really cool.
This quote is lit af
People really are dumb haha
When all they left the guns in the table, J is the only one that double checks the safety is on. Also, K never mentioned that he was the lost kid that offered the alien the flowers, but J recognized him immediately.
I love that his way of telling them they weren't good enough was to say you're everything that we've come to expect from years of government training
It also is a dig at the fact that those agencies are made to produce people that don't question orders and just follow orders.
Imagine being in his position: probably losing your mum and dad, best friends, siblings, nieces and nephews, grandparents etc.
Such incredible writing having him sit there in silence for so long.
The thing is, it's difficult to imagine his position because we don't know if he has any of those. Because his social life is blank, it's easy to assume perhaps he gave up very little socially. He doesn't appear to have anything to miss after he joins.
@@unigaming9921 Not only his friends and family, but any future friends he would have made. The only friends he can have now are aliens and other agents.
Not to mention, the MIB would have likely tracked down any and all friends and family he had and neural used them, ensuring none of them would have any memory of his existence.
@@ShawndaPrawn Eh, not necessarily. We see with K's family (his wife) they just make up a cover story that he went into a coma, not erasing all memory of his existence. They show it in a newspaper at the end of the movie that he "came out of a 35 year coma" and they show a picture with him back with his wife, after he retires and J neuralizes his memories of working at MiB.
See MIB3
Reminds me of a quote from George Carlin. "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
The Gunslinger, he was referring to religious people. I sure hope he didn't have any friends who were religious 😕.
And I think that's exactly how we ended up where we did in regard to covid-19 and look at what happened
He also said “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
@@asterix7842 He was kinda arrogant.
@@arnoldsherrill6305 correct. that is why i wasn't surprised with X percentage of people dealing with covid in X way. A person can be smart, people are mostly dumb.
I am a person sometimes and people the other time lol.
"Aw you brought that tall man some flowers"
God i love this movie
Turns out that he stumbled into the MIB agency by accident and lost his girlfriend in process.
@@vadimastprojects8770 So he never seen his girlfriend again that day.
I love that Jay immediately picks up who was who.
the way K says "oh yeah, its worth it. ...... if youre strong enough!" walking and kinda stumbling along feels like he's been waiting for this moment for a long time..... :)
-Whats the catch?
-You will sever human contact. No one will know you exist anywhere.
Sounds more like a perk.
My favorite soliloquy of that whole series of movies: "1500 years ago, everybody knew the earth was the center... Imagine what you'll know... tomorrow." A very cynical but accurate celebration of rationality.
Exactly. What we "know" is only temporary. Not only because our existence is only temporary, but because our understanding of reality as a species is constantly changing. On an individual level, it still applies, because our opinions on almost everything is constantly changing. What we "know" at 16, is very different to what we "know" at 30
Partially accurate.
He said "500 years ago, everyone knew the Earth was flat"
The ancient Greeks figured out the Earth was round in the 5th century BC (about 2,500 years ago). The idea that it was widely believed that the Earth was flat not that long ago is a total myth.
@@thefaithslayer2553 Beat me to it. Even ignoring the Greeks, sailors (and probably anyone near the shore who had thought about the question) had long since realized it couldn't be flat given ships appeared to dip below the horizon.
@Reality Temple Remove the crack pipe.
@@thefaithslayer2553 Yeah true I was like what the hell. It was more like the other way around, it could be said that the average person 1500 years ago thought the earth was flat because it was the dark middle ages and all that. But that’s also not fair because they most likely weren’t ever thinking about it in the first place.
And 500 years ago makes sense for the whole debate between Galileo and the church about the earth or the sun being in the center of the cosmos. So I think some writer mixed the two up somewhere, or Tommy lee jones messed up in the scene but that’s very unlikely
This movie was hella funny but had so many deeper meanings and lessons it felt
Cuz that's what the 90s were all about. These days people don't want to offend anyone.
@@thedarkknight9153 true
What were the deeper meanings? The one good thing the movie did was prove how important framing is. A black guy was able to shoot a little white girl in the head, because of framing. But considering what is said to him later, this should have failed him as a candidate.
@@hyper-lethal-sigma3 shut up Pink "H"
Those are the best ones
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
This is one of those quotes that drives my way of thinking. Don't let yourself get caught up in the crowd.
What’s the meaning
Friend of mine is a commercial fisherman. I asked him once how he knows where to fish. First thing he said, "Well, you can follow the crowd, but the crowd is wrong. And even if the crowd is right, then you have to share with the crowd." Applicable to a lot of endeavors.
@@netpackrat how can I apply this in business
@@tuilleri to answer the meaning behind it.
You can talk to a person 1 on 1 and they can understand and try and listen and follow what you are saying, but when you try to talk to a group they are more likely to not listen and give into a mob mentality. So if 1 dumb person starts to panic or make a scene a few more people are likely to and when a lot of people are panicking, everyone will panic. So a singular person can be smart, but a group of people is as dumb as the dumbest person in the group.
As for the second part for applying it in buisness, he was saying if you follow the group it's only going to end bad or little success, whereas if you do your own thing you either are going to have no success or have great success. Like if a group of buisnessmen open fast food in an area of town, following In Their footsteps will either lead you to fail if everyone else fails, or only moderate success because everyone else has a fast food place.
Now if you opened an actual restaurant instead of fast food, you still have the possibility to fail, but if you succeed you are much more likely to succeed greatly. Either way you have a chance of failure, but doing your own thing and going your own way you are more likely to find great success
@@lucasmartin6335 thank you so much for clarifying
It’s a beautiful scene especially with what came before it.
And I love they show J really thinking about it. Cutting ties with everyone you’ve ever known and stepping across that threshold is terrifying. Not knowing what’s beyond that dark first step and not having a way back.
I’m honestly surprised the MIB have so many members with the kind of sacrifice they have to make
It sounds kinda intriguing…,..sometimes certain people just become so outcasted that it really doesn’t matter to get close to anyone anymore…..and believe it or not these people can still care from a distance even if that means never getting close to anyone ever again. The outcasted child doesn’t always burn down the village. Sometimes the outcasted child continues to love even if it’s not reciprocated. It’s similar to how the Jedi order worked in Star Wars. Jedi weren’t allowed to date or get too attached to anyone. It was always about balance. Everyone’s balance is different. Certain people can do just fine alone. Humans may in fact be social beings but one doesn’t necessarily have to get close to others to be social. I’m not saying J was outcasted but I am saying that people can and have cut ties with everyone they knew before and it’s not always so obvious why but at the end of the day we’re all just individuals with our own choices and preferences.
This is some of the best dialogue in any movie ever. It's so much deeper and more important than just lines in a movie script.
"You get to meet extra terrestrials, but you're never allowed to become close with another human being."
Geeky Introverts: I see this as an absolute win!
Eyyyy it's Shady!
@Shady Doorags YES
(not a geek)
_but seconded._
If an Agency like MIB is watching me, please recruit me. This life on this end was never meant for me 😫 👽 👾 💫
@@MillenZaLPhA Alright Liza we're coming to pick you up in a saucer be ready
It's the little details that make this scene. Like the fact all the military guys just lay their guns down, yes with trigger discipline and not sweeping anybody, but still with the kind of carelessness caused by too much familiarity. Meanwhile at 0:19 J checks that his is empty before putting it on the table. Just that extra hint that beneath the attitude and act is a highly conscientious and intelligent man.
Yep. Them script writers knew how to manipulate you in the audience.
J didn't check anything, he just glances at the back of the gun. That doesn't give you any useful information about whether or not a round is chambered.
@@_GOD_HAND_ but it will tell you if the safety is on. I suppose I should have said he checks that his is /safe/ before putting it down.
@@Angaraman Which would be great if those were something that _had_ a safety lever on them. But those are Sig Sauer P225's, and they don't have a safety to check. It _does_ have a decocker lever, though (note the exposed hammer on the back). Using that would render the gun safe-ish, but not really safe. It's a double action, so there's that extra pull on the trigger for the first shot, but...that wouldn't stop it from being fired at all.
@@nightrunnerxm393 Wow! Fair enough, consider me educated! Thanks :D
This is a solid quote. It's often stated that people are dumb, but this highlights the intelligence of a singular person removed from that ignorant crowd.
I love this scene for an entirely different reason: this was New York at its peak. Late 90s, economy doing well, crime down, subways working, before it was turned into a tax shelter for despots, and the original WTC stood still. It was the best time to be in New York.
its sad what canada and the us have become now
@@aahamiiia oh, you just wait to see what they'll actually become. we haven't fallen far enough yet.
@@GETOFFMYDAMNBUS unfortunately
The amount of minorities has risen
@@GETOFFMYDAMNBUS
Yup... "You will have nothing and you will be happy."
"A Person is Smart, People Are Dumb" this is the most accurate statement to define today's world.
It was the most accurate statement to define every days world. At least now we don’t have public burnings, except of people’s reputations.
Underrated part:
"K, is it worth it?"
"Oh yeah, it's worth it! If you're strong enough."
I remember those words whenever I'm facing troubles.
In 2018 I went to New York by myself, my last day there I searched for that bench because of those wise words. I found a bench, I'm sure it wasn't the one, sat there and reflected upon those words. I'm so grateful to whoever wrote them.
the trickery to get him in their system , a man of wills characters age should know what he wants to do by now !!
When I was a kid I thought K was being serious about people knowing the earth was the center of the universe and flat bit. Mainly because I saw the word "knew" as absolute. I'm glad I can appreciate the depth of what he meant now as an adult and that what we think we know isn't the full picture.
In fact, people have always known that the earth was round. Even the cavemen
I said it before back when I was 14 and I will say it again: “You can have the healthiest eyes ever but still be blind to the truth.”
I learned that through experiencing abuse.
@@voiceacticon667 one of the best teachers aside from failure. I'm gonna remember yours though I really like it (the saying I mean).
Well considering that they passed him even though he shot the kid, when I was young it made sense but these days I know that he should have failed and the others should have passed.
Technically humans figured out the earth was round first, figuring out that the earth wasn't the center of the universe was far more recent. Well, some people knew, but the Roman inquisition threatened to torture Galileo for spreading the "heretical idea" that Earth wasn't the center of the universe in the 17th century- less than 500 years ago.
The "people are dumb, dangerous, panicky animals and you know it." line is the most truest statement ever uttered!
A couple of things these scenes do well: 1. When K is explaining to J what MIB is K picks up on Js skepticism/sarcasm when he says” aww you brought that tall man some flowers”. He proceeds to then reinforce what he’s telling J by showing him the creatures in the coffee room to show J it’s real instead of just pictures in a folder. 2. He uses the chronological events of earth being the center of the universe, the earth being, flat and “15 minutes ago you knew humans were alone on this planet”. 3. He confirms Js knowledge of how a person is smart but a group of people are stupid and panicky. 4. “Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow” is a tactical line used to spark Js curiosity. Finally, #5, he instigates Js ego by telling him it’s worth it only “if you’re strong enough”, challenging Js competitive nature and giving him an itch to prove that he is indeed strong enough. Very strong scenes.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals." I saw this movie when it came out, and this quote has stuck with me. I have seen this quote be proven over and over and over again. This movie will never not be relevant.
Tommy Lee Jones really added to this movie. What a titan of acting
I think it may have made Will Smith’s job as an actor a bit easier. His best work can be found in films when he is not the leading man. MIB and Independence Day.
@@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449 I think it also gave Will Smith a breather, in a role that he didn't have to go full-method in. Six Degrees of Separation came out a few years earlier; he later mentioned that the work he put into that role wasn't something he wanted to do again in his career (still a pretty good movie).
@@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449 I personally dont find any of Will Smiths movies great tbh, i dont like him as an actor, he just seems to be the nice rapper guy in all movies.
Bad Boys 1 and 2 were good.
@@Gameflyer001 I agree with you. I was disappointed in his performance in “Enemy of the State” opposite Gene Hackman. I think he was miscast as his acting abilities were not up to snuff. The same with “I Robot.” I could literally feel him struggle with the fact he had to carry the film as the leading man. He had no backup.
@@colummccrudden101 Acting does not seem to be his passion and I think it showed on the big screen.
I remember seeing this in the theater and hearing that line wishing everyone in the world could hear it at that moment. That line is more true now than it has ever been
some would be to dumb or blind to see it that way.
Made it sound kind of bleak with the 'severing all ties' bit, but he still made friends. In 15 years K had the picture of a pug sitting over his bed. Anybody visiting would think he was just being reminiscent over a pet, when in reality that pug was one of his closest friends that he had long conversations with.
It is so worth it.
Big thanks to Spielberg to brokering the making of this movie. Truly a lightning in a bottle.
"Imagine what you'll 'know' tomorrow". I always read this simply as "imagine what new exciting discoveries are coming in the future", but the emphasis on "know" makes me realise it's more about self-assured ignorance/complacency. Like: "imagine the next thing you'll soon be so sure of you can't possibly fathom the deeper reality that lies even beyond that, waiting to be realised". It's quite profound, really.
I never fully grokked the "a person is smart, people are dumb panicky dangerous animals" line until COVID started.
Like, yeah, I recognized some truth to it when I rewatched this movie as a teenager, but it wasn't until 2 years ago that I actually understood it.
I doubt that this movie's writers imagined that line being used as a justification for science and vaccine denial, but here we fucking are.
@@jackal59 It is? Fuuuuuck.
Of course, those people who like to think they're the only ones going against the crowd are often, in reality, part of a pretty large group of people who are catching people up in their own panic and hysteria
" People are dumb, panicy, dangerous animals and you know it "
Truer today in covid times
🍷😆😆 Old Tommy lee can make any shit sound cool. He is right though!
That's kind true about everything. Especially in America.
From the 1600, 1700, to the 1960's it was not okay to be black, Hispanic, Asain, Italian, Irish and though it was there country first, A native American or different native American tribe
From 1950-2016 it wasn't okay to be a working woman, Polish, German, Russian, Jewish, Gay, Middle Eastern or a Muslim
And 4 years to today it wasn't okay to be a Republican, Conservative, White, a many, Straight or a Trump supporter.
Just think what it won't be okay to be tomorrow
@@greygremlin1248 did you really bring race and politics into this? 😒😒
@@tjayenterprises5190 you also left out religion. And Yes. Because people have always acted like dumb, panicking dangerous animals over race politics and religion.
@@tjayenterprises5190 but ask yourself what there going to tell what's it's NOT okay to be tomorrow.
I'll give you a hint...✝️
The key statement missed here:
"Imagine what you'll know tomorrow."
... The regret I have for what I thought I knew yesterday.
Set before the twin towers
the 1st MIB was more than just comedy in a sci-fi setting. It had some really make you think moments. The 2nd one had some of those but substituted to much with shallow Johny Knoxville and the girl villain comedy/bad dialogue .
Most of what you think you know is imagined, either by you, or by someone else and it is taught to you.
@@BenJehovah6969 basically what Metal Gear Solid 2 and Metal Gear Rising: Revengence explore with the memes
I always watched this movie when I was younger. This scene where they're at the bench now reminds me of how the world we lived in no longer exists.
The fact K pretends to get some coffee just to prove J was wrong to not take it seriously just got me 😅
Will Smith's outfit is so 2000's lol baggy jeans, Timbs, white tee and a shiny red denim jacket xD
that shlt is still fly AF ngl
Well more like late 90's - early 2000's. 🍷
Everything about that outfit is ugly except the Timberland boots
@@IblewuponyourfaceIII I'm sure you were born after 2009
@@fezzy5591 No, I just have taste. Like the way Tommy Lee Jones’ suit is looks good, it’s his proper size. Baggy jeans are a joke
@@IblewuponyourfaceIII Nah you just have poor taste lol
And two decades forward, that line is still relevant, and accurate as hell.
The MiB as this entirely apolitical organization dedicated to the peaceful refuge and settlement of all peoples of the universe makes this commitment worth it. You might never be remembered on Earth, but your actions will be remembered throughout the stars.
K looks “older” in these photos than he does in 1969’s MiB 3 (lol).
I personally just like this first one as a stand-alone film anyway.
In Russian dub, K says "Sit and think on it" (a common expression in Russian), and J literally just sits through the whole night thinking.
Timeless classic, timeless cast, timeless duo.
I love everything TLJ and Will Smith, but I will forever argue this is some of their best work in this series of movies.
“Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.” Such a killer line delivery.
Literally when this movie came out we still considered Pluto a planet. We hadn't had net positive energy from nuclear fusion. You can 3D print most of a gun. In the palm of your hand you have the entirety of human kinds' knowledge whenever you want it.
"Imagine what WE'LL KNOW" tomorrow"
In the pantheon of profound quotes from great philosophers and comedians throughout all human history, the quote 'a person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals' is my favourite, beating out half of ancient Greece and 1970's era Robin Williams
Boy this quote hits different now.
I've visited New York enough to know that subtle dig "why else would we hold it in Queens" lol
That quote has always stuck with me since I first heard it. And damn is it true. An individual will accept things better than if you put that same person in a group and they will be swayed by the pack mentality more often than for fear of being an outcast and afraid to think for themselves. Tommy and Will were a fantastic pairing for these films.
500 years ago everybody knew the earth was flat and 500 years later some people still think earth is flat
Actually its proven in history that many believed the earth was round they just couldn't scientifically prove it.
Edit: My bad folks when i typed this i meant proven through modern day technology. Yes the bible mentions this fact and some historical figures after the bible books that make mention of this also proved it. The earth was proven round thousands of years ago. Just remember my initial comment is quite vague so insulting me or saying i dont know what im talking about is kinda pointless as its a vague comment.
I was thinking that too lol
@@krombopulosterry1005 It was as proven as it could be, by the curve of the horizon and its curved shadow on the moon.
I just remind the flat earthers and how does a solar eclipse happen exactly again.......?
@@RichWeigel god puts thumb in front of the Sun.
This movie stuck with me for decades.
Will Smith and Tommy Lee have a rare dynamic gotta admit
Just like George Carlin said. "The individual is beautiful. The individual is wonderful to meet and a delight to get to know. Its groups that are the problem"
2:54 - One of the silliest movies ever made with one of the most profound quotes to ever grace the screen.
I always loved that he sits on that bench all night. Because after learning something that detrimental...you have literally nowhere else to be
I love how the alien say "ah shit" when he over pours the coffee
Fun fact. The aliens in this scene are speaking huttese the same fictional language spoken by Jabba the Hutt and the rest of the Hutts from Star Wars.
I like to think its actually huttese adopted by these aliens while theyre living on earth.
2023 and "imagine what you'll know, tomorrow." Hits way differently then when i was 10 years old
I always remember this scene whenever mankind makes a huge discovery.
I felt that way when they invented AI last year.
I think Terry Pratchett once said something along the lines of "a crowd has the IQ of its dumbest member divided by the number of people in that crowd."
That sounds very accurate.
Loved K's smile @1:35 when James said he needed another CAT scan.
After watching MIB3, it's crazy to think K had J's life planned out.
I think most people pretend the sequels never happened
@@Primenumber19 I enjoyed part 3. Part 2, not so much.
“1500 years ago, people *knew* the earth was the center of the universe. 500 year ago, people *knew* the earth was flat. 15 minutes ago, you knew humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.”
I’ve always loved this line. Knowledge isn’t a state, it’s a process. 🙏
Imagine what you'll know... tomorrow.
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One of the best lines
I haven’t seen this movie since I was a kid. Now I have to rewatch it, purely because this sequence alone is so much better than I remember it. Moments of brilliant satire (“…what we’ve come to expect from years of government training”), a brilliant blend of the mundane and the wondrous, the great chemistry between Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, and the latter’s mix of gravitas and resignation that so perfectly fits the character. Great stuff.
Insanity is rare in individuals but amongst crowds it is the rule. -Friedrich Nietzsche shortly before going insane
One of my earliest memories is watching this on VHS constantly as a kid, I was born in 1997 right before this came out
Same bro
1994 here, watching this masterpiece on VHS in my grandparents’ house in San Francisco
1991 here…i rewatched a not returned copy of “the mask” on vhs till it could no longer be played, weather that has helped or hindered me in life has most definitely been decided.
Fuck I’m born in 98 but still remember watching this joint in the early 2000’s all the time
My shit was
The Mask
MIB
Small soldiers
Dumb and Dumber
Last Action Hero
Water boy
And mo’fukin Space Jam haha
#97WildChild
3:16 -- "The catch? The catch is you will sever every human contact; nobody will ever know you exist, anywhere...ever."
Probably one of the saddest lines in MiB. The man who is now Agent K; he was once a boy on his way to a date, with a bouquet of flowers for his girl. But, an alien ship landed near his walking path to her house. Instead of giving his bouquet to his date, he had to instead give it to an alien diplomat. He then became K. He never got to date his girl. She grew up without him and lived her life somewhat normally. (We see this when K is using the satellite to look at her.) And even after leaving the MiB, he can't reunite with her; they're too different. K becomes the postmaster for a small town after retirement from the MiB, all because he's too broken to live a normal life in a normal way. He then has to be taken back into service because he can't hack it as a civilian.
And as far as I know, K never left the MiB after that. I haven't watched MiB: International, so I don't know if they referenced K's passing in that movie.
It's a movie but how can you just erase someone existence
"Gentlemen...Congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training." Just now, years after seeing this movie, it finally occurs to me that this might not have been intended as a compliment! ~Slaps forehead.~
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." I quote this line SO FUCKING OFTEN.
Me too.
I love that line "1500 years ago everybody Knew.." such a clever way to show how dumb we all are
This film, despite being a comedy - really hits home a few times. This scene being one of them. Fantasticly written and delivered, hauntingly realistic. Bravo.
Having a movie be entirely humorous is called bad writing. You need serious moments in order to punctuate the comedy and give the audience breathing room.
@@r0bw00d *disagrees in kung pow*
But I get what you mean
@@fromthegamethrone Hey, even _Kung Pow_ had stakes.
K's "Everybody knew" speech is one of the best lines in movie history IMO.
I love that he spends so much time thinking it over - it's a pretty big choice
3:33 the background song is perfect for thinking of a life-changing decision
Facts man, I got to find the name of it
I've long thought that K's observation about the difference between a Person and People is one of the most insightful lines a Science Fiction movie has ever produced. Master Class delivery by TLJ, too.
Ok but “Aw you brought that tall man some flowers” kills me every time
This is one of the best recruitment scenes in a movie I’ve ever seen. It was outstanding.
The 90s must have been a fun time to be alive for cinema