I've done a few gun's and practiced a lot on A2 grips. I'm getting several of your tip and the burner, there on there way to me. What I've done has been the simple random sandpaper with a fine tip and they have turned out really good. I'm trying to make up my mind if I want to do my gen4 G19. It has a good stipple from the factory. Pretty much the same I've done already. It would definitely look better if I did a stipple job on it. I'm going to wait until I get the tips from OT Defense and practice with them for a little while.
good, thats the way I did, some people grind and sand first but think about it, those original design are just plastic so it doesn't matter, anyway we want it rough not smooth. done well good brain.
Thanks brother for giving out this knowledge. Just bought your kit and going to practice on my box and extra back straps before I dive in. Going waffle tip because I’m a noobie and I want aggro-grip because my hands are straight leather lol greatly appreciated!!! 😎🇺🇸
I've done a lot of texturing on wood with a power carver and I try to place my piece on a bag filled with lead shot or sand. I can't stand when my work is wobbling all over the place.
Not cleaning the tip enough is the mistake I made with my cyan G2C and a square waffle tip. I have since cleaned off most of the discoloration, and I'm debating on whether I want to redo it or go the color grit route. My XD9, I didn't have to clean the tip once, and it turned out flawless.
You are correct. Colored frames it is imperative to keep the tip clean. If you're happy with the stipple job I'd leave it, as some of the 'well burnt' material is already imbedded into the frame and may remain if you restipple it.
@@OTDefense I've already cleaned off the stippling, and I'm going to sandblast it with aluminum oxide to clear up the rest of the discoloration. depending on how it looks after that, I may leave it (and just recut the borders of the grip areas). If it isn't enough grip for me, I will totally stipple it again, but this time I will have a wire brush/brass wool handy to clean the tip.
is there a difference between a wood burner and a soldering iron? If so what temp do you typically run? I have a soldering iron with a temp guage (rough gauge).
Not needed with tips like this, especially on a Gen 4. Gen 3 you can just melt the big texture in, or sand if you want. I prefer to leave as much factory material on the frame as I can.
@@OTDefensefor sure. I wish I would a watched this b4 my first one. I’ve been practicing on everything polymer around me 😂 I think I’m ready to do my replacement now. Thanks for sharing your trade and not gatekeeping. Great info
I just ordered the z tip off of your website not really wanting to sand down my 19x frame, would I be ok stippling without sanding anything with that Tip?
If you are asking does the frame crack after stippling, no. You are simply moving the material around via heat. My main Glock has been stippled and re-stippled (because everything wears off with enough use) and been shot thousands of times over the past 15 years. No issues.
@@OTDefensehey, by the way, in another video of yours I heard you speak about a polymer plastic sheet for practice, do you have a recommendation on where I could get those? I’ve looked at Amazon and eBay to try to find one and I believe I did, but I’m a little cautious because I’m not sure if it’s close to the same material as the Glock.
@@rogerharrelljr1935 Nylon 6 on our website is what we offer. Glock case itself is a great practice material also. We occasionally have police destructions frames as well. Check the site for details:)
Dremmeled borders are the number one thing folks mess up, and once they do, they are darn hard to fix. The point of this video is to show an easy way to good a good grip on a frame, without minimal skill :)
We are not an FFL..... May I suggest you rewatch the entire video with the volume up, listen to the words, and you'll figure out what the purpose of the entire video is.... hint: you named it. Feel free to post a video of your work anytime also, as the world needs folks like you to share your above 'at-home diy' skills.
If you’re stippling your gun to customize it that’s ok , but if you’re stippling to get a better grip on it, you don’t need to be shooting a gun period.
Like driving a car on ice with studs vs without? Traction helps. Hence the reason all gun makers put some form of texture on. Some more aggressive then others.
Like tattooing with big needles, its easier to cover up mistakes. I dont prefer that type of stipple. You also sound like one of those guys that likes to make other people feel dumb. Its your tone. A little condescending.
Some of our tips are small and designed for single presses. Most however, are designed to cover more material than not, and provide the customer with a good texture, applied in a way that makes the job faster, so they can get back to shooting. Sorry you don't like my tone, some folks don't like Donald Trumps tone, but it is a free country (somewhat...) and folks can take business and votes elsewhere. I prefer to be brutally honest with my customers, so they have realistic expectations of what they can do, rather than sell them a a dream of being able to nail the basket weave tip with stippled borders and shoot like John Wick simply by giving me money :)
Not accusing but it could be his way of rationalizing that he either isn't good at borders being the most difficult aspect like he mentioned, or he doesn't like them.
@@CycloneGunworks The point of this video is to demonstrate thoughts of what people can do, and inspire thought in the individual user to ponder their ability and make the best selection for them.
The only thing I thought or felt since we're talking about our feelings, was that I wished I watched this video before I got my soldering iron out and stippled parts of my Glock I probably shouldn't have. I don't think he was condenscening, but frankly I paid more attention to his method than checking my mood ring. 🤣
Yaddi you are an adult. This video wasn’t an opportunity for a therapy session. If he wanted people to feel dumb I would think he would not be sharing his knowledge with everyone. You judged him based off of a tone in a video. If I were you I would spend some time trying to figure out why you took issue with his tone. You should not let your insecurities cause you to say stupid things on the internet.
Great video and technique, but please change the battery in your smoke detector! ;)
ha, Something about the pitch on that thing, literally cannot hear it until it's in a video.... It's been changed!
LMFAO, I was watching the video, heard the beep, and went out in the hallway to check mine.
Nice weapon!
Or remove the battery altogether. That shit drives me bonkers !!
that reminds me, i need to change my batteries in my smoke detector! haha. great job, just learning about stippling! thanks for the vid.
ha, yeah the one tone I cannot hear, and didn't have an extra gun to redo the video!
First video I saw without the sanding prep work. Lovely how it turned out.
Sometimes less is more, and easier:)
I like that no prep work need be done to keep as much factory polymer in tact and just enhancing the texture.
It's my preference as well in most cases. Most of our tips will allow for this technique.
I've done a few gun's and practiced a lot on A2 grips. I'm getting several of your tip and the burner, there on there way to me. What I've done has been the simple random sandpaper with a fine tip and they have turned out really good. I'm trying to make up my mind if I want to do my gen4 G19. It has a good stipple from the factory. Pretty much the same I've done already. It would definitely look better if I did a stipple job on it. I'm going to wait until I get the tips from OT Defense and practice with them for a little while.
good, thats the way I did, some people grind and sand first but think about it, those original design are just plastic so it doesn't matter, anyway we want it rough not smooth. done well good brain.
Just ordered a pro kit with all tips excluding the specialty tips , looking forward to it 👍🏼
You have a good start by watching our videos, just practice with all the included materials and you'll be set! Reach out if you have any questions
Thanks brother for giving out this knowledge. Just bought your kit and going to practice on my box and extra back straps before I dive in. Going waffle tip because I’m a noobie and I want aggro-grip because my hands are straight leather lol greatly appreciated!!! 😎🇺🇸
You’re the man Doing it like a boss!!! Good job.
This guy made a great looking stipple job look soo easy.
Man that looks awful good like a boss man like a boss yeah even admitted it when he was doing it wrong I admire that💥
I've done a lot of texturing on wood with a power carver and I try to place my piece on a bag filled with lead shot or sand. I can't stand when my work is wobbling all over the place.
How do you keep the grip black after stippling? After I stipple and sand, the grip turns dark gray and not that black
Email me some pics and I'll try to help. Need to see what you are working with- info@otdefense.com
Usually it's due to low temp, you can finish with a flame bath to bring the shine back
Did you say to practice on the glock box? Close to the same as the grip
Sure did
Came out great
Not cleaning the tip enough is the mistake I made with my cyan G2C and a square waffle tip. I have since cleaned off most of the discoloration, and I'm debating on whether I want to redo it or go the color grit route. My XD9, I didn't have to clean the tip once, and it turned out flawless.
You are correct. Colored frames it is imperative to keep the tip clean. If you're happy with the stipple job I'd leave it, as some of the 'well burnt' material is already imbedded into the frame and may remain if you restipple it.
@@OTDefense I've already cleaned off the stippling, and I'm going to sandblast it with aluminum oxide to clear up the rest of the discoloration. depending on how it looks after that, I may leave it (and just recut the borders of the grip areas). If it isn't enough grip for me, I will totally stipple it again, but this time I will have a wire brush/brass wool handy to clean the tip.
is there a difference between a wood burner and a soldering iron? If so what temp do you typically run? I have a soldering iron with a temp guage (rough gauge).
Generally the longer shaft of a solder iron just makes it harder to work in my opinion, but many customers use them. I'd shoot for 900- 1000F.
@@OTDefense thanks
bro, did im scared to stipple my own gun after seeing your thumb, i dont wanna melt my thumb off in an accdient, im very prone to being clumsy
ha, that was from a minor run in with a couple guys with RPK's. Stippling, only minor burns from being dumb and tapping a finger with the burner:)
Pretty cool, how about using the box you send the burner in for practice as well ?
You could for sure! Just know the material is quite a bit softer than most gun frames
You don’t sand?
Not needed with tips like this, especially on a Gen 4. Gen 3 you can just melt the big texture in, or sand if you want. I prefer to leave as much factory material on the frame as I can.
@@OTDefensewhat tip is this and do you recommend stippling the entire outline first?
@@settleschris1965 6min mark forward for about 30 seconds answers both questions:) Outlining first with random tips way easier
@@OTDefense thanks for all your videos! Started practicing with mine today and ordered tips from OT!!
I need to stipple slanted front cocking serrations on an FN 57 pistol slide cover. Which tip would be most appropriate for this?
I have a gen 5 so it came with a bunch of backstrap grip inserts i can practice on. Im never going to use them so its a no brainer
Good idea. I also practiced on them. Lol
Another thing to keep in mind about colored frames. Is that Glock will only replace them with a black frame if u mess it up. Ask me how I know 😢
@@Deltamikeacademy good point. Gotta practice first before any frame and keep the tip clean if it’s a colored one.
@@OTDefensefor sure. I wish I would a watched this b4 my first one. I’ve been practicing on everything polymer around me 😂 I think I’m ready to do my replacement now. Thanks for sharing your trade and not gatekeeping. Great info
Outstanding job
I just ordered the z tip off of your website not really wanting to sand down my 19x frame, would I be ok stippling without sanding anything with that Tip?
It will be fine as it is a 'bulkier' tip. Gen 3 I still would with that tip though
Can this be done on gen 3 glocks with "checkering" on the backstraps and between the finger grooves?
Yes, I would recommend watching the rest of our videos and you'll see it done and discussed
@@OTDefense Thank you for replying to both my questions so soon.
Looks so much better than all those terrible, stipple jobs where they’re just poking little holes.
Also put a battery in your freaking detector
What is your most aggressive grip/tip? Is the one you just did in this video? Looks aggressive and great
It is one of the more aggressive tips. I'd check out our grip index for an easy to use reference: store.otdefense.com/pages/otd-grip-index
What is a rough estimate of temperature on tip?
900F
@@OTDefense thank you ordered arrowhead, basket weave and straight tip from you gonna be stippling all my firearms
Man that wood burner got that thumb pretty good 👍
ha, yeah it was an Russian 7.62 burner:)
@@OTDefense 🤣
Has this caused cracking over time and regular use (recoil shock)?
If you are asking does the frame crack after stippling, no. You are simply moving the material around via heat. My main Glock has been stippled and re-stippled (because everything wears off with enough use) and been shot thousands of times over the past 15 years. No issues.
@@OTDefense Thanks.
Is that a garand thumb?
not quite :) you can read about it in "We were one, the Marines who took Fallujah"
Ideas on XDM.
similar material as Glock
Smoke detector+battery= happy viewer
What about a 15w wood burner that has a 30deg selector? And what tip did you use in this video?
Thorns Tip. 15W is going to be a bit low on the heat for all but super fine tips (that cover low surface area).
@@OTDefense the thorns tip got it. I know you have the grip index listed on the site but is that more or less aggressive than the wagon wheel tip?
@@SullyCortez it is a bit shallower as compared to the WW, but slightly sharper. Overall it feels a hair lighter to working hands
Cool stippling. Not sure if you were condescending enough for me though. Beginners don’t learn without being yelled at or talked down to.
haha! Have to try a drill instructor style video next time!
That usually works with me lol
Which tip is this again?
Thorns
@@OTDefensehey, by the way, in another video of yours I heard you speak about a polymer plastic sheet for practice, do you have a recommendation on where I could get those? I’ve looked at Amazon and eBay to try to find one and I believe I did, but I’m a little cautious because I’m not sure if it’s close to the same material as the Glock.
@@rogerharrelljr1935 Nylon 6 on our website is what we offer. Glock case itself is a great practice material also. We occasionally have police destructions frames as well. Check the site for details:)
Hey guys how would you go about cleaning your stippled frame from like just dirt, fuzz or dead skin?
Depends on the level of stippling, but a wet rag will usually clean out most textures.
A toothbrush works great with dish soap
Great video. Not sure what I think of the "thumb nail".... jokes
smoke alarm batteries
read the description...
Like that you stippled Glock logo. Don’t know why people leave it on.
I leave them on for color contrast when cerakote is involved as well as just another opportunity of skilled artistry. I've done both ways though
Looks great, bet it’s well grippy.
SEMPER FI
Bro just don’t buy a Glock if you gone do all this shit 😂it’s like buying a vet an trying to stipple a Honda bumper on the front
ha, both nothing else eats ammo and runs like a Glock!
Bro someone gnawed your thumb!
Fed it to wild dog in Fallujah... I think he appreciated the food
I like you guys' products but holy shit that looks awful. I hate stipple jobs without dremmeled borders 🤦♂️😔😩
Dremmeled borders are the number one thing folks mess up, and once they do, they are darn hard to fix. The point of this video is to show an easy way to good a good grip on a frame, without minimal skill :)
I would not pay you to do such a very minimalistic rushed job.. the borders definitely look like a
at-home first time diy-er did them.
We are not an FFL..... May I suggest you rewatch the entire video with the volume up, listen to the words, and you'll figure out what the purpose of the entire video is.... hint: you named it. Feel free to post a video of your work anytime also, as the world needs folks like you to share your above 'at-home diy' skills.
@OTDefense haters gonna hate... thank you for your instruction sir.
Nahhh that's ugly bro!...
Stipplin ain't easy
If you’re stippling your gun to customize it that’s ok , but if you’re stippling to get a better grip on it, you don’t need to be shooting a gun period.
Like driving a car on ice with studs vs without? Traction helps. Hence the reason all gun makers put some form of texture on. Some more aggressive then others.
What a stupid comment lol
Like tattooing with big needles, its easier to cover up mistakes. I dont prefer that type of stipple. You also sound like one of those guys that likes to make other people feel dumb. Its your tone. A little condescending.
Some of our tips are small and designed for single presses. Most however, are designed to cover more material than not, and provide the customer with a good texture, applied in a way that makes the job faster, so they can get back to shooting. Sorry you don't like my tone, some folks don't like Donald Trumps tone, but it is a free country (somewhat...) and folks can take business and votes elsewhere. I prefer to be brutally honest with my customers, so they have realistic expectations of what they can do, rather than sell them a a dream of being able to nail the basket weave tip with stippled borders and shoot like John Wick simply by giving me money :)
Not accusing but it could be his way of rationalizing that he either isn't good at borders being the most difficult aspect like he mentioned, or he doesn't like them.
@@CycloneGunworks The point of this video is to demonstrate thoughts of what people can do, and inspire thought in the individual user to ponder their ability and make the best selection for them.
The only thing I thought or felt since we're talking about our feelings, was that I wished I watched this video before I got my soldering iron out and stippled parts of my Glock I probably shouldn't have. I don't think he was condenscening, but frankly I paid more attention to his method than checking my mood ring. 🤣
Yaddi you are an adult. This video wasn’t an opportunity for a therapy session. If he wanted people to feel dumb I would think he would not be sharing his knowledge with everyone. You judged him based off of a tone in a video. If I were you I would spend some time trying to figure out why you took issue with his tone. You should not let your insecurities cause you to say stupid things on the internet.