How to Play "Out" Over a ii-V-I! (using pentatonic scales)
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Pianist, educator, and armchair psychopath Jeremy Siskind dares to ask the question "the man" doesn't want you to ask! "How many different pentatonic scales can you play over the V in a ii-V-I progression?" The answer may stun and terrify you!
A very useful concept. Thanks Jeremy.
Thanks so much, Stuart!
Another fantastic tutorial!
Thank you Jeremy!
I noticed something: if you also use a pentatonic scale for the D-7, then you can play F pentatonic, F# pentatonic and G pentatonic for the whole progression, which is super fun. I imagine doing a warm-up routine doing ii V I's going up in minor 3rds: in that way you would just play every pentatonic scale going up in half steps.
Your channel is mega inspiring. Thanks so much!
Also: pentagram
Nice - I love it. You're exactly right - going up my half-steps F, F#, G. Very good!
Pentagram! Very enlightening video Jeremy. Extremely freeing to recognize you can essentially play any pentatonic over a dominant. Thank you for the great explanation and demonstration 👌🏻
All 12 work! Great video 🎉
This was an excellent lesson. The 4 out of 5 rule is an excellent way to expand the toolbox.
Nice! I'm happy it was helpful for you!
Pentagram: That was awesome Jeremy! And love all your books.
I'm honored, Joe! Thank you!
Very usedul contents! It's time to practice!!! Thanks Jeremy
It's always time to practice!!! Enjoy!
Jeremy I believe you gonna make a fortune... bought two of your books, following here and enjoying every minute!
That’s so very kind! I sure hope you’re right about the fortune… 😉
Great stuff!!
Thanks much, Curtis! I find it super fascinating!
⭐🌟I'm still weighing some of the chosen preferences... D pentatonic seemed equally as weak as Bb penta, but in a different way (wrong 7th vs wrong 3rd, for the V7 chord). Among the jazzier sounding options, F# was too strong, for me at least, in the sense that 5 out of 5 of its notes aren't in the tonality implied by the chords. I understand that the 2 "missing" notes from the F# pentatonic scale (missing from F# major) ARE in the tonality, and actually define the G7 chord. So, in that sense, F# pentatonic has an imaginary connection to the Dm-G7-C progression, via the notes you'd have to imagine in order to make it a F# major scale. But to me, the F# scale sounds like loitering over the cadence, rather than hanging out with it. It's not because of the player. I've heard plenty of bebop, so I know it's the listener. I like the Db pentatonic - I agree, that one works great. So, that's a good sign. But somehow, the F# pentatonic is a bridge too far, like a bridge to nowhere. I've heard people go fishing off that bridge, so I know it's not just made up for completism in this endeavor. However, I think for me, some of the more out-there scales need the right context in order to sound good... at least I can hear the potential, for most of them. That F# tho... 5 out of 5 notes altered... the anchor doesn't touch bottom, and the doves have returned again...
I AM going to figure out why I really really like some altered-scale-heavy bebop soloing, and why some sounds like the most annoyingly insufferable pretentious BS. This is a long-term fascination - there isn't one small thing, like the difference between 4/5 and 5/5 notes being out, but videos like this give me little hints of what it could be.
I also tend to really like exotica (I LOVED your earlier-in-the-vid example of side-stepping chords from a half step below... it had an exotica vibe - I could almost hear the bongos!) and I'm also into simplistic music sometimes, so, I'm not trying to claim some superiority of taste. I'm just trying to understand my own tastes, and bebop has flummoxed me, as far as what I like vs hate, more than any other style.
I'm all for it. Figure out what you like and then imitate it!
Pentagram! Thanks for another useful framework!
I'ms o glad you think it's helpful!
Thanks Jeremy!
My pleasure, Sean! Happy experimenting!
Pentagram. I've recently been getting my head around triad pairs and it seems to me that they are similar to a pentatonic scale in that if you choose triads a whole note apart you get 5 notes. Have I miss-understood or stumbled on something significant?
I agree with you insofar as triad pairs and pentatonic scales have a lot of similarities, but I disagree that if you choose two triads a whole-step apart you get five notes. In my experience, you get six.
@@JeremySiskind but aren't two of the notes the same? i.e. in common to both triads?
@@alphaomega6062 no? (For instance, C and D triads have no notes in common…regardless of whether they’re major, minor, etc)
@@JeremySiskind OK It was just the pair I had picked, which I can't now remember what they were. Thanks for your guidance. Love your channel.
Thanks for great and insightful lessons! May I wish something which might sound critical? Could you do something about your piano - it has a sharp grating sound. Is it the instrument or the recording equipment?
Thanks for the note - I'm always looking to improve.
Pentagram. Never have 5 notes sounded so good.
I can think of a couple of other times...but thank you! I'm honored!
Pentagram. Great video as usual. I suppose all the pentatonics besides the side stepping ones can work even if the 5 chord doesn’t resolve to the 1?
That's an interesting question. I think they'll mostly work, but regardless of the cadence, you have to be very deliberate about the resolution.
I laughed out loud when you said that you think the C major pentatonic (on G7) sounds like Stevie Wonder 5 seconds after I literally thought just that. We can't escape "Isn't she lovely", can we? (nor would we want to). edit: also, pentagram
Yeah, Stevie does love his pentatonic scales, but man does he make them sound good!
❤amazing stuff
It's super cool, right? Thanks for watching, Anastasia!
Awesooome! Pentagramme
Thank you for watching!!!
I suggest you show your books 2 minutes into the video, and not in every video. We already know about your books. Your content is amazing, if we want to learn more we will find your books in the description of the video or your website.
As human beings we like the confidence that comes from familiarity, things that are always the same. That is why brand logos are so powerful any product that has the logo of a brand we trust is also trusted. Jeremy's "thing" is "buy my books" at the start of the video he has no need to change that imho.
Thanks for the tip, Sonic Five!
😅😅😅love you always
My pleasure, Mai! Thanks for watching!
😅😅😅 thanks a lot
No - thank *you*, Mai!
Killing as usual
Thank you so much, CM! Looking forward to hearing what you do with it!
Thank you, Maestro. PENTAGRAM.🌹⭐😎⭐🌹
My pleasure - thanks for these uplifting emojis!
How the heck do you internalize all of this for 12 keys? I’m overwhelmed just by C.
The good thing is you don't really have to think about keys - you know any pentatonic scale will work!
I know you asked Jeremy and not me, but I think that the answer to questions like this generally involves another question: How did you learn to internalize all the words that you spontaneously use on a daily basis without constantly pausing to remember their definitions or how they can be structured grammatically in a sentence?
In other words, immerse yourself in the language, study and practice methodically and analytically… and trust that your brain will automatize it until little by little it becomes second nature.
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Many thanks for watching, Marcello!
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Thanks for checking out the video, Don!
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Thanks for watching, Matthew! Have a great new year!
lol, So basically all 12 keys of pentatonic can practically work over a 5 chord as an outside sounding approach.
Crazy, right?
@@JeremySiskind Amazing, good to be aware of, thanks alot!
Your videos have helped my practice routine alot, and gives new ways, methods and approaches that enhance my playing, especially regarding improv.