LEBRON FAN REACTS TO MICHAEL JORDAN’S RAREST FOOTAGE!!!
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LeBron-" I am the GOAT", Jordan- "I'll let others decide". When you ARE the GOAT, you don't have to sell yourself as the GOAT.
its like awarding your own self because you are top of your class, let the teachers reward you for what you are doing
FACTS
No lies told
think about it this way to become the best you haft to believe you are the best or will be the best one day regardless if its true or not.
edit: btw i think jordan the goat but LBJ 2nd all time
@@isamel-hussein9186 when you're good, you tell the world. but when you're great, the world tells you.
I'm 50 and watched both Michael and Bron. You nailed it when you said back then you had to work through muggings to score. If Jordan played in this Era his output would have been so beyond belief. Bron is great. But his Airness is untouchable.
Jordan woulda avg 45+ in today's game.
There wasn't nearly the super athletes at the wing positions back then as there are today. The schemes are even different now. That's why teams are loading up.
@@ntmtmorris4250 Jordan’s mentality is beyond lebrons and that’s why he will always be the goat over Lebron
@@cartwillcartwill6609 Dude, like I really don't understand like why Lebron is in the GOAT conversation! He is great and that's all folks. Nothing to see here.
@@cartwillcartwill6609 Jordan lost with that same mentality. That mentality couldn't beat Bird's Celtics. 🤷🏿♂️
I’m 49. I watched Jordan throughout his career. IMO Jordan passed Bird and magic after the first 3 peat then passed Kareem and Russell after the 2nd 3 peat. Jordan would use anything to motivate himself. Reporters said he didn’t play defense then next season he was defensive player of the yr. He had zero weakness. Insane mid range and finisher. 6 final MVP never a game 7 his mental toughness was off the charts.
I grew up in Chicago. Literally watched every game Jordan ever played. Saw him live...there are a few people like this in other sports where it seems like the chances of them scoring or not is in nobody's control but their own. Jordan truly had an aura about him.
LeBron is the best player of the last 20 years. He's not Jordan though. The league is too soft for him to take nearly 20 years to pass some of these scoring records.
To answer your question at the end. No. It's not about total titles. Bill Russel is the goat if that's all we go by. It's that Jordan dominated 5 teams over the course of 6 championships littered with Hall of Famers like it was nothing. His regular season play was tremendous. When Jordan was in the playoffs he was supernatural.
I got bron he just impacts the game more imo he is magic Johnson (TOP 10 ALL TIME) but a significantly better defender and scorer
YA WHAT HE SAID !!
@@835YT PFFFT LBJ Would never survive in Jordan's Era LBJ is to much of a cry baby and Jordan never walked out on his team and the fact that LBJ Tweeted saying to a cop he's next Los post and my respect for him 100% Gone
@@JamesAltoonaPA I was talking about
BassasaurusRex I also grew up in Chicago and watched almost every game !!.. I have a RODMAN WORN JERSEY!!!!
So well said
"The Jordan Rules". When a whole team (the Pistons) changes how they play the game because you're on the court, all in an effort to shut you down, I think that's where I'd put "GOAT".
Especially when those rules were basically beat the shit out of Jordan. Don’t believe me look at the interviews given by Isiah, Rodman and others. They admitted it.
MJ still has my vote for GOAT, but on this particular point of the Pistons changing their gameplan, here's some food for thought: Wilt Chamberlain’s dominance made the entire NBA change its rules.
They widened the free-throw lane and made changes involving inbounding the ball and offensive goaltending. They also banned dunking from the free-throw line, which Chamberlain mastered in high school.
Some of these rule changes are still in place. One of them being goaltending.
He became the GOAT when he finally got past the Pistons and took the Bulls to Finals and won.
Than again Larry Bird called him God after he dropped 63 on them. Loved that game!!!
@@moeresse8812 MJ was actually nicknamed as Black Jesus/God. Some NBA players on his era were actually too afraid of him
I remember grown-up that when Michael played EVERYBODY watched. Old, young, fans, haters, it didn't matter. Because when he played you knew that he was going to do something special. He redefined the game. Lebron is good, but Michael was the greatest...of all time.
Bill Russell is 13 as player and player coach still never achieved batting Wilt Chamberlain who was bigger and more skilled
No kid wanted to be like bill everybody wanted to be like Mike he done changed the game .. who you think kobe thought he was lebron's a bum
@@nickjones3914 facts.
I never wanted to be like Mike I Knew he was great but I'm a student of the game so I have a different perspective on it
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Lebran is amazing and when fresh has a great physical dominating presence, and passes good. The thing is Jordan had much better Endurance, playing like an animal the Entire game, both offense and defense. He dictated the pace of the game.
Old cat here. Huge Larry Bird fan. Celtics all the way. Bird is my favorite player & I believe one of the greatest minds in basketball as a player. That being said, it was apparent almost immediately that Jordan was built different than any other player before him. He scored 63 points on my 1986 Celtics in the Playoffs...a record at that time....but lost the game. He never beat Bird's Celtics in the playoffs because he didn't have the team yet. So many people nowadays think the Jordan Era started in 1990-91...that is untrue. If you were around back then, you knew the Jordan Era started in his rookie year. The Bulls Era started in 1990. Jordan averaged 28+ in his rookie year & put fear in other players/teams even then. For back then times, Jordan was Larry Bird, Magic Johnson & Dr J all wrapped in one....with some extra. It all sounds inflated & unbelievable...but that was Jordan....from jump. He would average 40+ easily in todays NBA. No hand checking & the 3 second rule on D...it would be too easy. The NBA was rough back then. Way more physical. You take that physicality away & it would just be unfair. When most of the league is wearing your sneakers while you play against them, that says it all. That's where "It's gotta be the shoes" came from. I love the NBA to this day. I'm not an old head that hates on today. I evolved with the game to keep appreciating it. That being said, in my life, I have never seen anything like Michael Jordan since. I saw some similarities in some players like Kobe. Lebron is admittedly one of the greats already(hurts to say that, but I'm not ignorant)...but he is not close to a Jordan. His longevity may get him the records. He could break every record Jordan has. I know ball. He is no Jordan. There is only one Jordan. The GOAT.
Agree, even prior to his first championship, it felt like he was the best and it was only a matter of time before he broke through. When he did, it was his.
With how physical the game was back then, it’s pretty amazing that MJ still managed to play 82 games 9x throughout his career. That’s underrated.
what's even more amazing is Lebron has played all 82 exactly 1 time in his career in a much softer league. How much less would Lebron have had in the tank come playoff time if he actually had to put in an honest regular season workload?
@@BC2257 facts
And playoffs to go along with a 13 year career then 2 with the wizards
@@mikekendrick4586 in addition to the 9 seasons he played all 82, he also played seasons of 81 (missed one due to suspension), 80 and 78. He even played a full 82 as a 40 year old. No such thing as load management for him. It's crazy the contracts they get now are 10x the contracts the 90s players got yet they only have to play 75% of the time now.
@@BC2257 FACTS
MJ was a genius. A complete basketball player that was and will always be the best of ALL times.
For far
Just swinging on his nutz
I agree but young bucks don't know Bill Russell could be said in the same breathe. Rings and he was a monster, we just don't have much footage but he's on that Mount Rushmore for sure.
@@jdawg9137 that's true but those young bucks are wrong no matter what they say. MJ was and is still the best of ALL times.
Totally agree, today’s players have the “No Touch Era” helping put up numbers.
"I never realized Jordans lay up game was this crazy...." --- Hes one of the, if not THE BEST finisher at the rim, of all time
MJ was an icon approaching goat status by 92’ when the dream team massacred the world at the olympics. Athletically people pretty much all knew it was MJ. But I would say it was when he came back and essentially reinvented his game while still incorporating the flash when necessary. 96-97 MJ was a thing to behold. He was officially the goat by then…but for me his flu game was when he passed from the realm of mortal to super hero.
In 1993, the media pushed MJ as the GOAT and mostly everybody believed he was. I accepted him as the GOAT during the 72 win season. For a player to win three str8 championships, retire for almost 2 years, comeback and then win three more was incredible.
The media didn't push it. There was no social media and just brief segments on tv and couple magazines. People watched him play and that spoke for itself. Plus Magic and Bird were out there saying he was the best ever.
Media is trying to Make Lebron the goat and it's just a lie. plain and simple
Larry Bird and Magic already annointed him as early as 86-88
Bobby Knight called him the GOAT before he ever played a game in the NBA. Larry Bird called him “God” in his second season. The legends of the game were pushing this not the media.
@Don Henderson lolololol. What u mean all around. Which one is rounder. All around or 2 ways.
@Don Henderson definitely not facts as you say. Lol purely your own opinion.
It's hard for people to Truly understand his greatness unless they watched his career as it happened.
This. You had to follow each season as they unfolded and see how he dismantled every opposing team, especially in the playoffs. That's where he truly shined.
I don't fully agree. I watched it live cause I was mostly wanting the sixers to win and later the suns with barkley.
But this footage I'm seeing on RUclips still captures the whole thing.
It was inspiring to watch him play and LeBron is not that.
He good but he ain't that.
Curry is that, but that's another story for another day.
Magic definitely has a smooth game.
All those guys conceded Jordan was the best.
This is so true. No amount of highlights can capture his greatness. Because some of his plays you have to consider the context of the game. Was it a crucial play (defensive or offensive). The gravity of the situation, that wasn't captured in the highlights.
@@cedricduyongco That's nostalgia and that's really no different than what the lebronites are doing.
Just stick to the facts. Jordan still comes out on top and you get destroy every argument they have with the facts.
Just a thought
@@Ozem_Israel It may very well be nostalgia. But you are right, numbers speak for themselves. Someone made a video comparing Jordan of 1991 to Lebron of 2013. Regular season numbers, playoff numbers and then finals numbers. As the season progresses, Jordans numbers and efficiency went up all the way to the finals. Lebron's regular season numbers were impressive to but as the playoffs and finals went his numbers went down. That's what I meant by the gravity of the situation not being shown in the clips being shown in this video. Maybe I wasn't able to explain it properly and that's on me.
Great question. Never heard it asked before. I've watched LBJ's entire career (including H.S., I'm from Ohio). I watched Jordan through his time at N.C. (starting his soph. year). I think the public began to see Jordan as the GOAT around the 1992 Olympics. The Nike contact and media blitz helped bring the public along (with the idea of him being the GOAT). He was known worldwide. Other Olympic basketball players were asking for pictures of him during the games. If you look back at the interviews with greats from his era, it seems, they were already recognizing him as the greatest (or as one of the greatest) prior to 1992. Look at the Magic interview where he discusses the greatest game ever played (referring to the 1992 team scrimmage between "Jordan's team and his team). So many great HOF players from that era (guys who idolized players of the 1960's and 1970's) were already referring to Jordan as the best player they had ever seen. Don't know if that answered your question, but that's my "take" on it. Great video.
Michael Jordan.
College championship. 2 Olympic gold medals. 6 Finals appearances,6 championships,6 Finals MVPs. 10 scoring titles.
I was blessed to watch them both. MJ is the GOAT. NO WEAKNESSES. And his style of playing was pure art
His game was smooth, fluid and beautiful to watch.
I agree!!!
It's normal for MJ playing pure art basketball because he is the black Jesus
I guess, if you want to call destroying your opponents art.
"When you're good at something you'll tell everyone. When you're great at something they'll tell you."
Walter Payton
That pretty much sums it up
and payton was the greatest running back in history...then barry...then bo ...
Exactly! Cont with quotes, Phil Jackson said and I wasn't able to find it; (RIP) Kobe had IT but MJ had 10X IT. And his doggedness to step on your throat and rip your heart out.
🔥🔥🔥💯 Factsss
I'm 43, and I am from Detroit, so I was a full-time fan (we only had a few channels back then, after all) very early on, and had championship basketball to watch. I watched the Bad Boys hold him down.
We knew he was in the conversation for the greatest ever after the first three-peat and the retirement, but the longevity would have absolutely been questioned. When he came back and started putting it on people again in 1995-96, to that level... we knew it was special. He was a force of nature that changed the entire building when you saw him come onto the floor.
Kenny Smith said it best... he was the best fundamental player AND the best athlete. I mean, Jordan shot almost 50% career, and did the majority of his work in the midrange, with the 3-point nowhere near as prevalent as it is now. That fadeaway was unguardable and he didn't miss. LeBron does almost all of his work from inside three-feet, and is honestly a pretty awful shooter, though he has improved from what he was. This was obviously during the time where there wasn't only the physicality when he went to the hole, but also out on the perimeter, and you could actually put hands on Mike.
His FG% for his Bulls career is .505... and most people considered him both the best offensive AND best defensive player in the league... LeBron, honestly, hasn't truly tried on defense in several seasons.
I'm not trying to take away from LeBron's greatness, he's one of the greatest ever -- but there's absolutely no shame in being well-behind Michael Jordan.
after his first championship. he came back the next year with an air of confidence and you could see it every night playing. so did the rest of the league and they feared him. He toyed with all the teams. The whole team was confident in their 2nd and 3rd championship. you could see it. Even if they were down by 20, they were coming back
He "officially" became the GOAT when he was born.
I Added This... Lol
RealHiRecords: He "officially" became the GOAT when he was born.
MJ: "He said I was the GOAT. That's all I needed. And it became personal to me!"
I'd say he became the GOAT after he was cut from his JV team and put in the work.
God it’s crazy that I was gonna say that same shit half joking while being serious. Try to make sense out of that lol sorry! But that is a great point brother. Him getting cut really did PISS HIM OFF to the point that he never let it go & even mentioned it in his HOF Speech!
😂
I love it
Never compare Michael Jordan to players that never went through this level of physical play. They really are no comparisons that even make sense. Mostly contested layups and dunks. As a matter of fact. Just do only Lebron James highlights and see if all of it holds up like Michael Jordan's have over the time.
Anyone with a brain and functioning eyes can see that it does not and will not.
True
lebron didnt start his career last 10 years he played in the early 2000's witch is not that far off from the 90's style of play
@@isamel-hussein9186 He came in 2003-2004, and in 2005 the NBA opened up it's rules a lot more to allow offensive players easier access to the rim, etc. I think the NBA did that on purpose in hopes to build their brand back up and help to promote or create their supposed, 'KING'. Him being a bigger wing and suddenly life is easier to get the rim, since he has never been a super consistent jump shooter, or able to rely on that consistently when it matters. All you have to do is comparing overall NBA scoring averages of now to say 1997-98'. The type of spacing and stuff that he has had. It is no comparison at all! If somehow you could flip eras with Mike and LeBron, I feel it would only enhance Mike even more and dramatically lower Bron's stats!
@@nathandalebout2141 what are you talking about the NBA expanded their defensive rules to allow the defense from the opposing team to play off man to man defense and play a zone defense witch is harder to score on then man to man defense the only rules they banned for the defense were hand checking and a few other rules
M.J. will always be the G.O.A.T to me. He changed the way the game was played and brought alot of the showman to the game. I remember trying to mimic jordan all the the time growing up. From his college days, to Chicago and all 6 championships, all the way to the wizards, he showed why he was great. M.J., you da man!
MJ was elegant and graceful. He brought NBA and basketballs popularity to a different level in the late 80s and throughout 90s. Even today he’s name is still a household name.
I was one of the original Raptors dancers, and I got to see MJ play live in the era of him, Scottie Pippin, and Denis Rodman. MJ was a beast! He dominated every skill, season, and sentiment. What made him even more of a champion was his humility and his grace. He was a team builder and an encourager. He was so kind and enthusiastic about the sport and youth. To watch him live was to witness greatness! #23
AMEN! LeBron is a good, maybe even great, basketball player. Jordan WAS basketball in that he worked, studied lived and breathed the game, not just played it. He stayed with one team, and won the big prize 6 times. THAT'S what rubs me wrong with LeBron; he chases rings...not a good look (IMO), compared to building on what you have. So, even if LBJ gets seven, it somehow is dimmed because of that; again in my opinion. Plus, Jordan was poetry in motion, beautiful to watch.
I got to see him live the first year they won in Portland and because of my brother in law got to sit with coaches and players at the bar. Tex and Phil sat at our table…but I also wished I’d seen you…I mean…you know…never mind 🤦🏻
@@wandaminter9421 Agree with you about staying with a team, helping teammates improve and building something great together. MJ is respected by fans, and franchises in the league can only hope to have someone like him remain with their organization and help create a dynasty.
Although some people from Cleveland or Miami or LA, MAY respect LeBron, I think that majority of fans of those teams look at him as just some guy who is passing through their town, and will jump ship the moment he sees another way to fish for a route to an easier championship win. WHY would anyone respect that? Everybody I know always rolls their eyes and says "here he goes again" when the off season starts and you hear Lebron is calling up all the top players, or moving to another team. Seriously, what's to respect about that?
@@avoidtheattic2688 Ha! Perfectly said. I AM one of those fans (Cleveland - the first to get dumped). I was annoyed and bemused by the whole "The Decision" theatrics. Then he came back, gave us a much needed shot in the arm, and we LOVED it. Still, he left us again, but this time the sting wasn't there. We shrugged and moved on.
You are right, at least in my eyes. I admire his skills and humanitarian efforts for sure. But it is chasing the easy win that takes some of the luster away. Not for him though; a ring is a ring. But all the rings in the world do not give one greatness, just jewelry.
@@wandaminter9421 LeBron reminds me of that guy at work who is always kissing someone's ass, sucking up to his boss, and is always getting a promotion they don't deserve and didn't earn. Got the promotion the easy way, and EVERYONE at work knows it and talks about it, but he's oblivious to it and walks around like some big shot. That's LeBron to me. Ring chasing , going for it the easiest way he can find, and proclaiming himself the GOAT but being completely oblivious to the fact that it's not the number of rings that you have that make you the greatest. Jordan's 6 rings is the outcome of work ethic, skill, passion, and a drive to BEAT the best in the game. Those are what made him the greatest. He made his teammates better by leading by example (sometimes being fanatical and going too far at times) but he built a dynasty by doing that. That's why he is held in the highest regard.
I seriously don't know anyone that looks at LeBron in that fashion. I think he's a great player without a doubt, but to me, he's just another guy in the league, jumping teams from one to another. One of the top guys for sure, but nothing beyond that.
My favorite thing to see is the reactors face slowly go from unimpressed, to impressed, to wtf, to "That's God playing ball."
Every MJ possession gave u that feeling
What always impressed me about mj is he was always turned up to 100 every second of every game no matter what the score was and no matter how much time was left and he played just as hard on defense as he did offense. He was so intense and truly dedicated.
Personally, growing up watching Jordan, he was always one of the best as a kid in the 90's, but when he "retired" to go play baseball and then came back and won 3 more championships was when I knew he was the GOAT
I'm an Aussie. Let me tell you, Michael Jordan was so good, that kids/teens from the other side of the world, who had never shown any interest in basketball, suddenly did. EVERYONE became interested in the NBA. Everyone knew how special Jordan was. Everyone wanted his shoes. Everyone wanted to play at school and after school. These days, we're back to only a very small minority here having any interest. If Lebron was anywhere near Jordan's level, the world outside the USA would notice like they did in the 90s.....
Boom! That's literally exactly what I just said, mate. I followed NBA when Jordan was playing, and I'm not even that into basketball, then he retired, and now I don't watch NBA anymore.
Jordan made the NBA popular, while Lebron has killed the NBA almost single-handedly.
@@kevincalhoun5612 you also got to think, too. Jordan did it without social media. Juggernaut.
@@barkslife Much the same as I'd directly quote you about golf & the NBA. I also witnessed Tiger. After that, I'm lucky to take interest in 10min of a telecast.
@@ericmolaison7274 same mate. Watched Tiger growing up myself, too.
Nobody has ever been "smoother" than Jordan, he was known as the Black Cat because of how smooth he was.
He was?
@@zachshuler1143 Yes, he was. He was called by various names by different people. He was known as Black Cat, Black Jesus, Capt. Marvel, and Air Jordan. Here is a video about MJ called The Black Cat ruclips.net/video/WXErOmq3owg/видео.html
Black Cat Black Jesus they nemed it
He was called, Black Jesus lol
It was for his quickness.
Having been able to watch both player through their careers I can say they are both 2 of the greats. That being said I don't think James is on the same level as Jordan as an all around player. Jordan simply excelled in every aspect of the game. He was on another level and just made everything look easy. He could step it up even more when it counted during the important games. I don't see this from James at the same level as Jordan.
My mans face the whole time is what got me 😂😂😂✊🏾
For me, there was never really a moment when I said he was the GOAT. When you watched him play, you just knew there was noone else like him. His games were some of my best childhood memories....just actually seeing him do the things he did
I have to agree and i was gullible enough at that time as a kid to think some of the moves MJ made i could do them too because he made them look so easy which is far from the truth
Agreed....Im 44 & live in Chicago grew up here.....watched his career from start to finish....& it was definitely beautiful to see.
I’m 38 and growing up watching him play on tv with my dad and uncles I just remember them saying all the time. He’s the best to do it. It was just understood.
Yes well said
I agree, while we were watchin him, it was never a time where we realized he’s the GOAT, I feel in the moment when the bad boy pistons beat him up and he worked out that whole off-season and came back the next season ripped and made the same bad boy pistons walk off the court before the end of the game, beatin Magic lakers that was kinda like oh shit this dude built different!!
What sets him apart from the other great scorers is the fact that he was the first player in NBA history to be named to 9 All-defensive First Teams. And earned Defensive Player of the Year. GOAT
He also got the assist title one year also
Underrated comment! Everyone seems to care about offense, but go back and look at what Jordan did to his match-ups in the Finals! While LeBron was watching KD fly by and dunk multiple plays in a row haha
Not just that but as a scorer he averaged 30ppg when teams were averaging 90ppg or 75-80ppg (like the 97 Heat series), Wilt averaged huge numbers but teams averaged 125ppg, today Steph averages 32ppg but teams average 115-120ppg - all 30ppg seasons are not the same, MJ's percentage of team points was very impressive
MJ also got the most Steels one Season, 2 Slam Dunk Titles and wht you need to search for is his Rarest Moment ever and tht was the time he " Shattered A Back Board "
This is a good point. Show me another great offensive player that had the defensive skills of MJ. I’d wait, but you can’t. GOAT.
Preciate the respect for the old heads young blood. As a 43yr old .. the era of basketball we lived thru was just pure bliss! It was the height of basketball period .. the highest point ‘92 dream team. No one will ever be better than MJ and I wasnt even a Jordan fan (Magic and Kareem were my guys)
Scottie, Mike and Rodman are the three best defensive players I’ve ever seen at their particular position! They really were the best!
I've seen both play. James is great, but he looks like he has to try to get his stats. Jordan made everything look effortless in much tougher era.
FACTS!!! LeCON is just another ACTIVIST SJW!!!!
@@truther4life Leflop has lost SIX Finals. How can anyone with a modicum of intelligence assert a loser as the 🐐? I believe the same people who elected a nitwit as president.
And Jordan didn’t play every game to the end to pad stats. Once the game was in hand the main players sat and rested.
@@thereaper4396 facts
Everything about Jordans game came naturally in the flow of the game....if the game didnt dictate getting other players involved, he didnt try to force other players to be a part of the game. When I was Lebron play, I see someone attempting to force the issue and the game didnt seem natural.
When it was winning time, Jordan was an assassin and won titles......in crunch time, ask the Dallas Mavericks if Lebron was an assassin?
I had the pleasure of watching him from start to finish, by the second game of his rookie year he was just about the best player in the league.
Btw this is a 10 minute highlight reel. EVERY game he played in was like this! Roy Williams said it best “Michael is the only player that can flip a switch and turn it in or off. And after he stepped foot in UNC, he never turned it off”
To understand Jordan fully watching the highlights does not come close. They give you a glimpse on his skills, artistry and athletic ability yet his leadership, fear factor, pure aura, mental toughness, intelligence and ability to take over games you can only grasp to understand by watching the full games and dive into class. Some reach he teaches... After that there are no questions left. Watch the games.
Every part of Jordan’s game was “crazy”! That’s why he’s the GOAT!
Such underrated comment. Mj was good if not great at every aspect of the game
Young blood...absolutely noone swaggered and moved like him. It is apples and oranges. Labron is big...strong...has developed his game. Michael....was an artist. Every night you never knew what you might see. His ability to adapt to any defender and hang or double pump or glide beneath the board or just poster the best players. No one moved like him...competed like him...he refused to lose. And he took so much abuse! And he played defense! MJ was art in motion. Love Labron....but im sorry, noone compares.....except kobe. Who learned his craft for MJ.
@@1210jnelson Haven’t heard anyone describe Jordan better!
I grew up as a kid in the 80's and my Old Man was the biggest Lakers fan. When he saw MJ defeat them, he turned to me and said: "Son, this this the greatest basketball player there will ever be." You were totally right dad.
Bro thank you for changing the music to the og video. IMO you made it 500000x fuckin better; this beat fuckin SLAPS!
The public called him Air Jordan, but I'm pretty sure his contemporaries were already like, "dude is amazing." That itself it probably all you need tbh.
I'll tell you why LeBron will never be as good as Jordan, he is not a real competitor. The things that set Jordan apart, other than his insane physical abilities, was his competitiveness. Jordan refused to be second-best and took every challenge personally. Jordan wasn't just the best the first game of the season he was the best every game of the season and especially when it counted in the playoffs. Jordan willed his team to victories, he wanted the last shot took the last shot and usually made the last shot. LeBron tries to take the last shot but he doesn't seem to be able to make it. Also Jordan never would have walked to the locker room before the game was over and hang his teammates out to dry when there was time left on the clock, Jordan believed he could come back in any situation, he didn't always come back but he sure enough gave everything he had to do so. LeBron's a whiny punk that doesn't even deserve to be considered in the top 5 as far as I'm concerned
I don't know anything about LeBron but I do know everything you just said about Jordan is 100% correct.
It’s the current era of basketball based on friendships, media, super teams, making defense illegal, and a lack of competition. Jordan came into a league that was cut throat.
What made Jordan the goat wasn't his highlight reels, it was how the Bulls owned the league for nearly his entire career, JUST BECAUSE OF HIM. No one remembers how pathetic the Chicago Bulls were before Jordan got there.
Amen, you hit everything right on the button. I'm not one of the Jordan guys that will sit here and try to argue that lebron James is not one of the greatest players In history. Because if I did I would just make myself look stupid and show that I don't really know the game of basketball. Lebron has accomplished incredible things in his career. Making the finals that amount of times whether he lost some or not is still an amazing feat that nobody else has ever done as far as the amoint of times and how many he made consecutively as well. BUT the problem isn't that lebron people are arguing he is one of the goats or even the second goat which I personally have Kobe as my second and lebron third but that's not the problem, the problem is these lebron guys seriously argue that he is without question the number one greatest player in NBA history and I'm sorry but that's just not true in anyway shape or form and it's not just based on opinions, it's based on facts which almost all facts easily point to Jordan as the goat. And what gets me is even factually and statistically it's not even close and is overwhelmingly lop sided and apparant if you have eyeballs that work. Lol yes the amount of final appearances and four titles and the Cleveland comeback finals against the warriors all are huge accomplishments and without a doubt makes lebron James ONE of the greatest players in history. Even Top 3 or arguably top 2. It just doesn't make him the number one goat and that's not a bad thing. I mean damn to have a legacy of the greatest NBA player in history next to Michael Jordan should be plenty enough and incredible. But what makes the argument even worse is that lebron James himself has commented multiple times that he feels he is the greatest ever and practically acts offended if others don't also think that. Michael Jordan as we all know, believes without a doubt he is the goat BUT he has never came out and publically told people in any interview or press conference or magazine or anywhere he has never said he believes he is the goat. He's been asked alot about the debate with lebron and him and Kareem and him and magic or whoever and he always says that he doesn't believe it's fair to label one player greater than theanother from diff eras because the game is different era to era and it's not something he thinks should be done which is really true honestly. BUT lebron will tell ya he is the goat and wants his "respect" every chance he gets. He makes himself sound like being easily regarded as the second goat next to Michael isnt showing him a d giving him his respect and I'm sorry that is just entitled and whiney. Because even the Jordan guys of the debate still gives him the second goat spot and I would think that he would at least consider that respect but he has shown by his comments that he doesn't which hurts his case.
Lebron just ain’t better at hoop period…it’s really that simple
All I gotta say is….I’m so glad I got to live during the era of the three Mike‘s growing up. Sure there are current greats, not taking anything away from them, and there will be more greats to come. But the Jordan, Jackson, Tyson era was just different, truly special.
Facts
DIFFERENT!
No no no now I respect that game of lebron but the goat lol..
Nothing compares to Michael basketball wise man when you see labron pull off a great move you think m.j when you see a flying dunk you think m.j when you see the whole n.b.a wearing baggy shorts because of Michael jordan awe man whom has changed the game like that I am done and so is Michael
You are absolutely freekin,truly right!!!!it's like to compare M.Jackson to usher or Justin Bieber.people who didn't see and feel it at that time-they can't even imagine what we are talking about.i believed that Jackson doesn't have to use the toilet cos he was over it....!
Sho you right Michael Jackson changed the world usher and justin couldn't change diapers..
Shaking your head “no” when you talk so much is a sign that you don’t believe what you’re saying. Lol
I think he became the goat when the whole word was wearing Bulls gear and 23 was plastered on everything. No one played the game like him except me of course and then I woke up.
Watching Jordan play in the 80's/90's was like watching a 3D movie in IMAX. He was significantly ahead of his time. The dude had the athleticism of modern-day players with the mental toughness of old era players. I've been watching basketball since 99, became a superfan in 2002, and since then I still have not seen anyone come close to MJ with Kobe being the one exception.
Kobe and MJ were good friends too. The difference between them was that MJ wanted to be the best player ever. Kobe wanted to be at least as good as MJ in his prime. No disrespect to Kobe, but if you are going to model your game after someone, MJ is the best person to model it after. Kobe came hella close to getting to MJ's level.
Agreed, if anyone could come close to comparison it would indeed be Kobe!! RIP brah!!
After his 3rd title, there was no doubt he was the greatest ever and everybody in the league knew it!
True.
Yeah, around a year after Magic and Bird stopped, the threepeat cemented it, and the second threepeat makes him unreachable really.
Yup.
@@creditorclass6513 I was just about to write as soon as MJ won the first 3-peat with 3 Finals MVP, he was considered the best ever by almost everyone.
Yes his third title had me convinced he was the best
I graduated high school in 96...from my memory I feel like he was regarded as the GOAT around 91 or 92, then he three-peated twice with a retirement in the middle. They should've taken 8 in a row.
For me it's never about the ring.
It's when everybody start to ask "Who is the next Michael Jordan?", and still searching.
The thing with Jordan is that during the 90's, for six years, in the playoffs, you always felt that there was no way that he was going to let his team lose. And he never did. Time after time after time The Bulls won either because he hit a jumper at the end or he made an assist at the end. It was magical to watch it live.
But then you have to add on the other years outside of those 6. NCAA Championship winning shot as a Freshman. 10 time scoring Champ. 37 ppg. MVP, DPLOY, All-Star MVP, Scoring Champ in the Same Season. Unreal
Oh right, and 63 points in his first playoffs on the Champion Celtics home court. All-time record. Most PPG in History for his entire Career. That's it. It's over
@@robinweber9640 Larry Bird said, "I think he's God disguised as Michael Jordan".
This. After the Bulls won their first, I never thought Jordan would lose another playoff series. Then there was 1995. It was highly unlikely for them to do any damage but then he dropped 55 on the Knicks at MSG.. you just KNEW they were going to win it all that year too. I think after that game they only lost 2-3 more regular season games and you knew he was going to go through the East. It was truly a shock when they lost to the Penny/Shaq Magic, IN CHICAGO. I remember being speechless the next day at school. The Michael Jordan lead Chicago Bulls DIDN'T make the Conference finals since the first time since 1988 I think. As a kid in the 1990s, watching every Bulls game you could, it was as surprising as anything you could think of at the time.
@@em843 The double nickel game. I remember watching the highlights the next morning and being so mad that I missed the game.
The fact that Lebron was so hyped. I’m from Cle and exactly 1 yr younger than Lebron so I was high school and old enough to understand just how insane the hype was. They were showing his games on ESPN when he was 17. To actually deliver on that kind of national hype, it’s seriously almost impossible to actually live up to that….However, I grew up in a world that was Michael Jordan. By the time my brain was able to form memories, I remember that Michael Jordan played basketball and was the most famous and talked about person in the world. I wasn’t old enough to really understand what made him so great. But when I was growing up in elementary school there was never a time that anyone even questioned that Michael Jordan was the best basketball player on the planet. There were many other guys that were great, other guys we’d call as ourselves when we played (I’m Shawn Kemp! I’m Mark Price! I’m Shaq!) but MJ was always hands down no question about it better than all of our other favorite players. That’s why us “old heads” scoff at the Lebron comparison. Bc if they played in the same era, Lebron would be closer to Shaq level than MJ. Lebron might have been the closest to him, but prime MJ was untouchable. Even tho Lebron will end up with a more accomplished and you can easily say better career bc of his longevity and all the career records he’s on pace to break, but Lebron at his best was never as good as Jordan at his best. He just isn’t as skilled as MJ, he really isn’t. No one was, no one has been since.
More accomplished career? Like losing more finals than winning? Like winning just 1 scoring title? Like losing in the Olympics? Put down your phone.
P.E.D.'s are a hell of some drugs!
Watched Jordan growing up. I watched him score in every way, shape, form and fashion. From wherever the moment called for. He did things no one can. Air Jordan is the perfect nickname for him. Triple clutch/pump in midair, then scores, among other things. All He wanted was to lead teams and win championships. Singularly focused, even as the Pistons beat the crap outta him every time he touched the ball. Triple teams will do that for you. Among all, just fun and entertaining to watch. I couldn't look away. His greatness allowed for amazing and clutch plays to happen at any time. He made it all look easy. I watched LeBron from day 1. He was great from the beginning and became elite quick. He is one of the best all time. He, like the rest, are not Michael Jordan. MJ is a different cat. Reggie Miller calls him Black Jesus. You need a game or championship winner, no one else but Jordan, his team, or 1 on 1 vs LeBron, etc ,
People talk about lebron breaking records oh he passed Jordan. Jordan has 3 times more accomplishments with 13 seasons. 14 if you include wizards in which he still averaged high season ppg with the best of the era. Lebron has almost 20 seasons under his belt. Of course he would pass Jordan in scoring. But look how long it took him to do it. 15 seasons in an era where hand check is illegal and a sneeze is a foul. His average ppg is lower and fgp is lower than mj and is horrific outside of 3ft. His 3pt is atrocious in an era where 3pt is all the rage. Mj was an average 3pt in today's game in an era where 3pt weren't really a thing. I honestly dont know what bron is doing today that has never been done. Being big and fast? Throwing up powder? Being able to guard or play 1-5 does not mean you are efficient at it. I can go all day as to why bron is nowhere near MJ. Kobe is a different story
Lebron is similar to Magic.
Coach Bobby Knight about MJ in 1984, after winning the Olympics for US, but before the NBA draft:
“The kid is just an absolutely great kid. If I were going to pick the 3 or 4 best athletes I’ve ever seen play basketball, he’d be one of them. I think he’s the best athlete I’ve ever seen play basketball. If I were gonna pick 3-4 with the best ability I’d ever seen play the game, he’d be one of them. If I’m gonna pick the best competitor that I’ve ever seen play, he’d be one of them.
So, in the categories of competitiveness, ability, skill, and then athletic ability, he’s the best athlete, he’s one of the best competitors, he’s one of the most skilled players. And that to me makes him the best basketball player that I’ve ever seen play”
Michael Jordan can do everything that everyone else does on the basketball court but not everyone else can do everything that Michael Jordan can do
I hated Micheal Jordon back then. I am a die hard lakers fan, and he abused my aging lakers for his first title.
But I will say this seeing Magic, bird, to Jordan, Ewing shaq Kobe, and the other greats. And now seeing lebron. There is no question MJ is the GOAT and this talk between him and Jordan is absurd. Lebron is a great player. But he is nowhere near Jordan. Nowhere. I'll post this video that shows every comparison between the two. It's pretty in depth. And again watching all of them live and in color. There is no comparison.
The closest is Kobe!!
I love Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, but THEY aren't even in the same league as Jordan.
Absolutely!! It's so lop sided that it astounds me how some people will seriously try and debate it lol. Like I give lebron his props he has accomplished a ton just off amount of finals he has made and even though he lost more than won, it's still an amazing accomplishment that nobody else has done. BUT the accomplishment makes him ONE of the goats just not THE goat and that's not a bad thing. But these lebron fans just can't be happy with being the second greatest of all time next to Jordan, they have to have the label of the number one goat and it's just not even close enough to have the phrase arguably the goat. But what makes it worse is lebron himself has said multiple times he is the goat and wants his respect and is chasing that label like being the second goat in almost all fans eyes isn't the "respect" he thinks he deserves which is sad. Michael Jordan obviously personally believes he is the goat I'm sure but he has never once made a comment publically in any forum that he is the goat. Even when asked about him and lebron and him and Kareem and others, he has always said that he knows it's fun for people to debate and have their picks and things but he doesn't feel it's fair to say one player from this era is better than this player from a diff era because each era of the game changes. Lebron gets asked and he's like 'yeah I'm the greatest and I want my damn respect"! Which only hurts his claim worse.
He abused HOF teams
@@tomkee4479 true Lebron played 11 seasons for Cleveland and won 1 ring then he proceeds to call himself the GOAT meanwhile Jordan three peats twice and doesn't make a big deal about it.
Watching MJ take over a finals game, was like watching a choreographed movie. You knew what was coming, but you could never really be ready for it. He made everyone on his team better. True Goat status 1998. 6th ring, 6th finals mvp. Countless scoring titles, all-defense team over and over again.
After his third championship, when he had 3 MVPs, and 3 Finals MVPs, to go with like 7 scoring titles, a defensive player of the year award, and three steals titles.
He became the goat after he retired. Was a sad day. But u gotta remember this is before youtube. ESPN and a few networks ran some hilight reels but nothing like the players get today. They have constant coverage everywhere. Back in the 90s not every game was even on TV in all areas
I watched every finals series to see this man lose after he beat my Cavs. He never lost. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. I've never seen it since. If his dad didn't die he would of won 8 in a row. No one was beating these dudes.
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I have to disagree with you. It would have been 10 cause Jordan would wanted one ring for each finger. If Jordan stayed Phil Jackson would have stayed and so would have Rodmen.
@@krypt2knight547 Phil didn't have a choice but leave. Jerry Kraus messed that up. I agree 10 would have been achievable but think about if the Bulls would have got Jordan legit talent earlier in his career.
But being able to watch Greatness play, you kind of have to forgive the man for beating your team. I was lucky enough to grow up in Chicago. He was Superman.
His dad's murder was very unfortunate and Chicago kinda died when he left for those two years. When he came back all I heard was "MJ is back!". Still gives me chills thinking about it.
So true.
Remember this as well: He sold out every home game he appeared in, but also nearly every away game as well. No one wanted to miss the chance to see him play.
Even with the Wizards. They went from half full to full when he came back!
Facts!
You just knew, and so did everyone else, that you were watching the greatest player to ever do it. And there was no one arguing whether he was the goat. Everyone knew.
No flopping, no taking plays off, no refusing to play defense to rest up.
Jordan's drive (no pun intended) was unmatched. He HAD to be the best one on the court. If someone was out there performing at a higher level, he'd raise his level to whatever was necessary to win and to prove that his opponent didn't stand a chance against him.
He was the Goku of basketball.
@@chitlitlah I was thinking the same thing lmao
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You sir.....just preached!
Thank you! I wish the world could see this comment. It's what I been explaining to those who think LBJ is better or has a chance to be better than MJ.
LBJ would have to go back to a baby and be reborn with a mind like MJ. That's the only way.
7 8 9 10 rings, Lebron could have 10, still won't measure up to MJ.
There has literally been nothing like watching Jordan lead a team through an entire season and into an avalanche of rings. What gets lost in highlights is how consistent he was on both ends - never took a possession off on O or D
I grew up in Gary, IN, right next to Chicago. I am a lifelong Bulls fan. I was a Bulls fan when they were known as the "Traveling Cocaine Circus." In the preseason of his second year, before he broke his foot, the Bulls played the Indiana Pacers in a preseason game at the Genesis Convention Center in downtown Gary. I begged my mom to get tickets not knowing she already had bought them. I told my mom that not only would I do my chores but I would clearn her room too for a whole week if bought them. That was my first time seeing Jordan live. Towards the end of the game as we were leaving to beat the crowd, Jordan got a steal. The exit was on the main floor so we had to go down and walk behind the basket. I stood frozen like a deer in headlights as I watched this man, cradle the ball in his arm, air walk a whole flight of steps, and rock the baby slam dunk...right over my head!!! That's when I knew this man was da shit!!!!!!
I started to see him as the GOAT after that first 3 peat.
No disrespect to Lebron, but
#1 Mike never took nights off talking about he needed rest and you saw how he got mugged going to the hole. My generation's rule was "no layups allowed". You had to earn the basket.
#2 Mike had a level of "killer" in him that is unmatched. The closest to come to Mike's level in that department was Kobe (Rest His Soul). Lebron does not possess that level of killer. When Mike had you down he wanted to annihilate you, humiliate you, make you never want to touch a basketball again, show you that you should never even dream of stepping on the same court as him. I do not see that in Lebron. He plays the game like a nice guy.
#3 When the game was on the line, EVERYONE in the whole world KNEW who was getting the ball and there was nothing anyone could do about it. I have only seen mike pass the ball in the closing seconds of a game twice; against the Suns in Game 6 of the 93 Finals and against the Jazz in Game 6 of the 97 Finals. Otherwise, Mike was taking that shot 10 out of 10 times. It has been way to often that Lebron passed when he should have taken the shot.
#4 Lebron is scared of certain guys and won't admit it. 2018, in Cleveland, game on the line, KD has the ball, Lebron switches off to guard Steph Curry who couldn't buy a bucket that night. KD ices the game shooting over a lesser player. There is no way that Mike would have allowed the star of the other team to seal a series in his house and he not attempt to stop it.
I could go on and on. But the case has been made and closed several times over. Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
World picked Michael Jordan as the greatest of all times. And the ratings reflected that.
Imagine the impact Jordan had in the world that everybody wanted to be like Mike without internet and social media.
I’m a die hard Pistons fan, but hail to his Airness. The GOAT
Good video bro it's always good hear sports debates or to get others opinion
The moment MJ came in the league, everyone knew we were watching the greatest of all time. It was like watching God come play some hoops. This generation only got glimpse of him on his decline. And even that Jordan was and still is the best we've ever seen. MJ is and will always be the GOAT..
Biggest difference is Lechina James tries to build super teams and the bubble title he won last year doesn’t count IMO
Get it right....it's LeBrick "anti-clutch" james.
@@punkem733 lmao.
@@punkem733 how he not clutch? He’s one of da most clutch of all time cuh, yo trippin hard rn
The finals against the Suns convinced me Jordan had been touched by the divine hand. No matter what the Suns did or how close they got, Jordan WILLED the Bulls to that title. As a Suns fant I KNEW what was about to happen yet still my jaw dropped every time. It was truly something out of this world to watch in person that the highlights do not do justice. There has never been a more fierce competitor in professional team sports. EVER. He had that KILLER instinct that went for the jugular every time.
That was the moment that forced Charles Barkley to acknowledge that Jordan was simply better than he was.
@@cyber6sapien exactly and the whole world knew it
Suns fan here as well. It still stings when I think about 93. Minus Jordan, we were a better team from top to bottom, but no one could get past MJ.
I've never seen any athlete as competitive as Jordan. It was a privilege to watch him play.
@@jeffspain3613 Agreed. That's why the Bulls retooled the following the year, adding Kukoc, Kerr and Wennington. Some of the Bulls players were getting a little long in the tooth. The Bulls almost lost to the Knicks that season in the 1993 ECF, if I'm not mistaken. Or maybe that was a different year.
One stat that could indicate who is the best player is normalized +/- per minute. If a player plays 40 minutes in a game and his team scores 20 more points than they give up during that time, his +/- per minute is 0.5. Then normalize for the 8 minutes he was on the bench. If in that time the team gives 8 more points than they score, the team’s +/- per minute when this player is sitting is -1. Subtract the -1 from 0.5 and you get a normalized +/- per minute of 1.5. The player with the highest value could be considered the best.
Jordan became the GOAT in 1992, same year as the dream team. Then he won his 3rd straight title that solidified it. Then he did another 3peat which eliminated any question completely. It’s over. He’s the greatest ever.
Bron is fueled this year. His GM work is at it’s all time pinnacle. I wonder how many more all stars he’ll sign for his revenge tour!!? What a joke!!!!
😂😂😂
Been playing with them damn near his whole career hasn’t won without a superstar on his team hell two
I'm not a huge basketball fan, but there was one time when I watched it semi-religiously, and that's when MJ was playing. I'm from Australia, and there was no bigger star on the planet than Michael Jordan during his absolute height. The fact is, Michael Jordan was all encompassing on and off the court. I don't get that vibe from LeBron, but then again, like I said, I'm not a massive basketball fan, but MJ was still able to drag me to a TV to watch him play. I still say "MJ from the key" when I shoot a piece of rubbish for the bin decades later. 😂
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When he dropped the baseball bat and picked up a basketball just to win the finals that’s a goat move
Jordan was back then and always will be must see TV…. He was not only a Hall of Famer offensively but defensively…
The thing I’d like to see all the LeBron fans in 20 years when people say he’s trash.
IF it’s still around because today’s game absolutely sucks
There was less longevity back then, not just because of the physical play, but there was no load management, sport science wasn’t what it is today, and players actually stayed in college. Growing up watching the NBA, if Jordan was playing, you basically assumed the Bulls would win. It didn’t matter who the team was. Can you say that about Lebron? I couldn’t. By the way, he would have been in the majors if the MLB strike didn’t happen and he didn’t have the itch to go back to playing basketball. He batted over 200 in AAA which is absolutely amazing for someone who hadn’t played baseball since he was a kid. He is the ultimate competitor (sometimes to his detriment as a human) and that’s what separates him from everyone else to me.
It mostly had to do with guys playin just as hard on D and offense. MJ nvr took a break on the Defensive side. I've seen Lebron take many many breaks on D. All players do now not just Lebron.
Yep it was ride or die mentality in the trenches with no quit in them that defined the 90s..MJ stood a giant amongst it all..even after base ball..MJ is the GOAT..
@@gregmcclung7497 dude Lebron is an Add-bot on the defensive side..hell just gets crossed and driven...hes only defensive skill is his chase down block but that was lightyears away..and thats about it...he dont have that lockdown genes
@@pitbulkid I 100% agree, thats exactly why i would take Pip over him. Plus they are way more comparable, both small point forwards. Pip was dope and bringing the ball down the court. It was either him or MJ playin point. And MJ was also one of the best passers I've seen, he just didn't pass alot but when he did it was like showtime Magic. Pip was really good to and his D was awesome!! I'd say Pip was almost if not as good as MJ on that side of the floor. And thats saying alot. All the greats can score and do flashy stuff but to be able to stop them, well then that makes you a better player imo. Hakeem the dream was uh pretty dope at both of those things too. No1 talks about just how great a player he was. If anyone is as good as MJ at their respective position, its The Dream not Lebron.
Players back then also played hurt. In today’s game….they crack a finger nail and sit out for the next 4 games while still being paid. It’s so sad
Let me acknowledge my birth year before we get into this, 1975.
That's out of the way. As a kid, 87 and 88 range, we all had to defend Jordan. Old heads used to say he was a souped up Dr. J. Old heads used to say but he can't beat the Celtics, and their 5 Hall of Fame players on roster. And he can't beat the Pistons with 3 Hall of Fame players on roster. And he can't beat the Lakers, with 4 Hall of Fame players on roster.
And we used to have to defend him. Old heads would say scoring champs don't win titles. Old heads used to say we want to watch him score 50, but watch our team still beat his and win.
Then he started winning. All of a sudden all of the old NBA heads had no argument. Jordan changed the entire argument.
The old heads were right. You can't win scoring titles and win a ring. Until Jordan it had only happened once. Alcindor(Abdul Jabbar) for Milwaukee in 1972. After Jordan it only happened once, Shaquille O Neal did it in 2000.
Jordan did it 5 times. Him and 2 of the most dominant big men ever.
At the time he won Defensive Player of the Year, he was only the 3rd guard to ever receive that award. Its normally reserved for big men with big block numbers and defensive board numbers.
Biggest overlooked thing about Jordan, and the reason why he can never be matched. You have to have a million stars align, and then have the athlete to take that moment.
Jordan came into a league with the East owned by the Celtics, who won 3 rings and appeared in 5 Finals. The 2nd best team at that time was the Bad Boys Pistons, who won 2 rings and played for 3. They were 2 of the best built to win teams you can find. He was punished into greatness by 2 of the best teams ever.
And they won in 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLES. You can't create that scenario for a young hungry guy to get fed to wolves as a baby like that.
The reason the Bulls never lost a Finals or even saw a Game 7, was because if you couldn't beat the 80s Celtics, or the Bad Boy Pistons in 7, you couldn't beat the Bulls. They were designed to stop 2 juggernauts who controlled the league in back to back fashion.
Keeping in mind the Lakers, who were both of Birds losses in the Finals, and the Pistons 1 loss in the Finals.
You can't name 3 historical teams who could run that gauntlet, and the Bulls had to run it every year.
There are just too many anomalies in Jordans stat line. Like science has proven that time off during the season helps with playoff performance. Except this one dude. This one guy doesn't even get contained by science. In the 9 seasons Jordan played 82 games, his playoff average was higher than his regular season average 8 times. 5 of those times he saw the Finals...AND AVERAGED MORE THAN HIS OVERALL PLAYOFF AVERAGE.
The easy way to explain that, is hes the scientific anomaly. Hes the outlier. You cant bring him up in the study, he beats the science.
And i agree. Don't bring him up. When you talk GOAT, argue who is number 2. Hes not in your conversation.
I spent my life as a kid defending Mike to older generations. Spent my adulthood defending his legacy to younger generations. That speaks unto itself.
Leave his name out the GOAT convo, hes proven. Like no one else ever. You'll never create the scenario, or the guy to take advantage of it.
Hes not the best because we want him to be, he just is. Circumstance and loss created the winner he became.
No comparison.
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This needs to be read by EVERY person who has reservations th at MJ is greatest of all time.
"He's not the best just because we want him to be, he just is".
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The 1988 Season is when we knew it was curtains for everybody else. Bruh won the dunk contest, ASG MVP, Led the league in scoring, and was the League MVP AND Defensive POY.
It was OVER.
In 1993, after his first retirement from basketball, he was considered the best of all time even if he only had 3 titles, because he had, by far, the best statistics per game, the most spectacular game, and the most impressive combination of skills, and the most feared player
In 1996-1998 he proved that he could maintain the level of both himself and the team without allowing anyone to challenge his supremacy.
To wrap everything up nicely, in the last game, in the 1998 finals, he scored 45 points (of Chicago's 87!), also scoring the last six points for the Bulls, including the decisive point,
In the end, in terms of playing strength, skills, performance, and results, he was considered the GOAT. If there are others who have won championships, no one is close to the strength of the game, per game statistics, skills, and spectacular game,
In the 90s, Jordan was known as the best athlete on the planet, he was known by almost the entire population of the globe, including those who did not follow basketball. Neither those before him nor those after him had such fame. The only one who came close was Magic Johnson because he was the former number 1 before MJ and number 2 for a while. When talking about Jordan, Magic was also brought up. On the 3rd place in notoriety worldwide were probably Larry Bird and Kobe Briant (and then Shaq).
Michael Jordan was a whole culture in the 90’s. The way A.I. breaks down the first time he played MJ at his HOF speech(A.I.) shows that.
Lebron will never surpass Michael Jordan as the Goat ...
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This is why I can't even respect LeBron fans because he wasn't even on Kobe's level and they just wanna skip him and compare him to the God of basketball SMH
Jordan was the goat at North Carolina, and continued through his professional career. He never stopped being the goat. He was only given one other title. "Rookie". He never stopped proving himself from start to finish. Truly the greatest to ever play his position on the court, and arguably the greatest NBA player of all time.
When MJ retired after his pops died and he came back and won his first full season back to get #4 I said he’s the best I’ve ever seen.
Um, no. Jordan's dominance and impact on the game of basketball was and remains greater than Bird, Magic, and James' combined. That's Greatness. Best of All time.
Yeah but MJ's dominance came from playing against Bird, Magic and Pistons and learning from them what he had to do in order to get into player's heads and become the GOAT. He learned from the masters of trash talking and dominance and took it a step further.
@@Carl-gj4ed No Jordan was dominating when he came in the league. Go watch the highlights of the game he played against the pros when he was on his first Olympic team. He was taking it to a bird and all of them. Even when Jordan's bulls were getting beat by the Celtics and Lakers and pistons everybody knew who the best player on the court was he did not have to learn from them. But you can see a lot of Dr J in his game.
@@grandnagus1 I watched MJ, Bird and Magic play on TV. I'm in my 40s. I saw MJ's game evolve over time especially when he played against the other GOATs of that era. I saw how rivalries influenced his game and made him better. I saw MJ in real life while he was filming a commercial and I owned a pair of Air Jordan Ones.
I know what you are saying mate but he evolved year after year after year and it was because he was playing the greats.
They pushed him hard. Trash talked him. Bullied him. Tried to break him all the time. Night after night and he just came back stronger, faster and better.
We wouldn't have MJ without the calibre of competition he faced.
Teams nowadays aren't competitive. You don't have a superstar that is trying to rip your head off and tell you that it's "his house". You don't have players competing just as hard on defence as they do on defence. You have players that care about stats and posters and sit out for most of the season "so they are ready for the playoffs".
Maaaaaaaaaannnn. That's not basketball.
For a pretty casual basketball fan ive never seen a better passer than Magic Johnson, Magic was also so spectacular to watch. It really was showtime when Magic was on, then came Jordan and the way he played the game was just something else.
Ok gen z, re-name your thumbnail! MJ is and always will be the GOAT! You guys just need to admit defeat, especially when the truth is slapping you across the face. LeBron is good but he's no goat, he's not even at Kobe's level!
I grew up in North Carolina and watched MJ play for UNC and help them win a National Championship. So we knew he was great before he even played for the Bulls. He played for the Bulls during a time when basketball truly was a contact sport, and he competed against some of the greatest players (and teams) of all time and still won 6 championships. Watching MJ play was something special. LeBron is a great player and there’s no denying that, but there was something magical about MJ that would’ve made him great at anything.
I turn 50 in November, so I am blessed in that I grew up watching many of the greats play during their primes. Watching Jordan's 63 point performance against the Celtics was when I thought he was from another planet. Like TheXen alluded to in his post, the game that LeBron plays is very different than when Jordan played. Simply put, if Jordan played in today's game, especially without hand checking, he would score 50+ easily.
I forget who said it but when asked what Jordan would average if you dropped him in today's league, "whatever he wanted to."
A great deal of the reason people's careers were cut short was that the game was so brutal.
I'm 20, and Michael Jordan is the GOAT
For me, I used to think Lebron had a shot to surpass Jordan, but he's had too many "knocks" on his resume. Too many Finals losses. Breakdowns in big games. Etc.
You asked what year was it when Jordan became or felt like the goat....... "When he entered the league!!"
Jordan's lay-up game was off the hook because he had HUGE hands. I think they said his hands belonged on a person that was 7' 6" tall. Combined with his hang-time? He could do whatever he could invent instantaneously. A true "in the moment" improvisational artist.
He was the GOAT after playing for 3 seasons. Everyone was saying he was the best player ever after those first 2-3 seasons.