This is exactly what I needed. It may seem over-explaining it but turning for the jab is exactly why the follow-up with the right hand never feels quite right. This is awesome Johnny, I though I was trying to impress my coach with the turning-jab
I get so confused. A majority of coaches teach that rotation is crucial with the jab. To me personally, Johnny's way of teaching the jab makes sense. I tried the pivot method, and although I do feel power from it, it just doesn't feel natural.
Wow, that car analogy. I really needed that. I always wondered why my punches just feels "powerless". So I just need some compressing to do. Thanks man!
Happy for you, man! Yeah...a lot of the power comes from your base if you know how to stand right. No need to bother twisting and turning and all kinds of stuff. If your base is strong (like how those old pros do it), you will have power on everything you do.
Dude, I cannot begin to tell you how many channels subscribe to the method of hip/foot and/or shoulder rotation regarding the jab. Don’t get me wrong, to each his own and whatever works for you is cool but I tried the hip and foot rotation method and they didn’t feel natural to me, like, there wasn’t an easy flow to it. Maybe I was doin it wrong but I like my jab to be quick with minimal commitment. I’ve kinda learned if you need more power, step with it, if you need more range, extend your shoulder…this is just what works for me and everyone has what works for them
Yeah exactly, left crosses can be effective in a combo. And you can still get that powerful hip movement without turning your head away from the opponent
These videos are great! I've recently started training in MMA but these boxing techniques can easily be applied in the octagon too. Much respect for sharing your knowledge 👍
That's why footwork is so Essential and I say that because if a boxer crouches every time he or she jabs, I'm gonna see that all day. That's why footwork camouflage that so we'll. And yes, definitely step into your punches. Not an over reach or telegraph the step too much, but out your body behind the punch
What Johhny did, but forgot to mention was, when you jab like him, keep your chin behind your fist. Let it block for you by hiding you chin behind it. Excellent video.
Hey man!! I miss you so much! You help me a lot when I’m started to boxing! In my country people don’t talk about the technique like that! Your videos and your articles helped me a lot! I glad that you come back! Everything are okay?! Sending love from Brazil!
Canelo vs Angulo * Only time I have personally seen a left cross used in a combination. - Jab, Rear Straight, Lead Straight Completely agree though, most people who don't have their boxing basics down tend to throw that power jab. Aldo vs Perez at WEC is a prime example of leaving yourself open but Perez also had bad habits 🤷♂️ Knee Counter KO to a Pivot Jab to the body btw. I've been taught to keep your lead hand about level to your shoulder so when you fire off a jab it goes out in a straight line to the target. Everything chambered: - no elbow flares - no rolling of the shoulder - rotation of the fist at 90% extension Every punch has it's uses but I get what you're saying because pivoting that way with your jab, EVERY TIME, a good fighter will read that and have that split second to prepare a response. Basically, you become too easy to read especially against a person with an affinity for counter punching when your Pivot Jab is the only way you know how to Jab. Every punch has a purpose but a Jab is to gauge distance, distrupt rhythm, etc. Don't try to KO someone with it every time because the KO% of that punch is low I mean I think Edson Barboza got KO'd by a Jab, but MMA with it's small gloves, is a different animal to boxing gloves. Great content brotha!
Just like I shared with another comment earlier....here's Floyd Mayweather with an "elbow flare" on his jab (nothing wrong with it!) ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVg/видео.html
@@expertboxing Oh yeah Mayweather has beautiful technique! He follows the principle of what I had mentioned earlier where it comes straight out. What I meant was like most fighters have a tell when they are fighting. For example the elbow flare I mentioned was like before they fire their jab they load up with they (it's hard to explain it) but they load up with their shoulder, something like rounding their shoulder forward, before they throw their jab. In the elbow flare case, it's like they know to rotate their fist but they end up rotating like they raise their elbow from vertical to horizontal first before firing off the jab. The Philly Shell/Hitman stance that Floyd employs pretty much requires the lead hand to be low so the elbow flare he has is understandable( it's part of his stance) PS. Hope you didn't think I was critiquing your jab! 😱 I respect your knowledge and experience your videos helped me with transition from a casual slugger to "boxer" though that's a stretch to call myself that 😂 Always a pleasure watching your videos! And thanks for replying!
@@expertboxing Better way to explain the tells is most people start their jab with their shoulder first or their elbow first when, as the video you linked shows, it actually starts from the ✊ Fist->elbow->shoulder follows Most people Shoulder->elbow->fist Lol that actually perfectly describes snapping your punches vs pushing your punches *Writes it down in notes
No offense taken, my friend. I don't think Floyd's jab is unique. Tons of fighters (pros and amateurs) jab with the elbow flare. Elbow down is good for defense but if what you want to do is punch, elbow up is gonna be faster and more practical. It's great you've been able to break the jab down from fist to shoulder as well as vice versa. I actually cover tons of techniques in my advanced guides. I won't explain it all here.....but try playing with lat to fist and also fist to lat. Then also try the fist-to-lat connection but with as well as without the shoulder in line. Lots of variations in there for you to mess with. Totally different feel! ;)
@@expertboxing Ayeeee thanks for the suggestion brotha! I'll definitely try that out. I love variations and fluidity, the human chess aspect of fighting, so having technique variations is a major thing for me. Keep doing what you're doing! Love your stuff homie!
There are countless jabs. The example youre showing while you may think is correct is completely squared up to an opponent. So when you learn to box and fight, youll be bladed and the rotation is necessary to give your jab range and power, because of bone structure. The rotation of the wrist inward before impact is the most important thing that gives the jab a solid, powerful feel and prevents damaging your joints. The neck rotation is benefitial because incoming punches wont land as cleanly. Any head movement in general is benifitial. Cheers.
I see now that I over rotate and that is why Ive been getting hammered in the ribs on my left side then getting overwhelmed, its because Im almost turning my back to him. THANKS!
Lets just say this is one way of throwing a jab. First, I am a boxing trainer and although this technique is a good one, its not the best one since you are telegraphing the jab. And if you continue to throw that way, you will get timed and countered. The best way to throw the jab is what you displayed at 2:28. Your elbows are down (making it difficult to see the punch coming) and you throw with a snap. Perhaps the rotate jab is best for throwing then stepping out of the pocket. Keep up the good work!
I like to throw my jab like Mayweather....with an elbow flare: ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVg/видео.html Have had no problems with it getting timed or anything. Many old school guys threw it that way as well.
i do agree with you but to say dont do it removes all other equations and situations rotating can be used to slip a punch and hit them with that counter jab and yes i know going into that completely changes what you're talking about here but i just think that saying dont do it could remove certain aspects you could be using
Yes, that completely changes what I'm saying. The jab (with a slip) that you see is basically a small rotation of the head/spine/head (not the feet) and then bend at the waist. And that's a loose rotation rather than a tight forced rotation. If you're digging for a devil's advocate, this is the closest one for it but yeah...it's an entirely different topic in itself.
@@expertboxing I can't paste a link here. Just Google, Thomas Yankello wiki.... He has a few videos on RUclips including the master class how to jab..he trained Roy Jones Jr., Paul Spadafora, Monty Meza-Clay and etc.
Yeah, I’m the biggest Roy Jones fan ever and actually my style is somewhat modeled after him. I’m 100% sure he doesn’t pivot on the jab. He doesn’t even reach, zero body movement just arm.ruclips.net/video/J0d_Lyeg8Z4/видео.html
No boxing gym or for that any martialarts gym in my city. people say learning from youtube will induce bad habits and dysfunctional technique. But hey, better than absolutely nothing, and helps in self defence 90% if you can atleast do a jab cross and hook properly
That's a big part of why I do this channel. There are so many people out there who love boxing but don't have access to gyms or trainers. And plenty of older fighters or females that trainers don't want to spend time with (because that want to focus on young/potential-champions). Nothing will ever beat a personal coach in person, it's how I learned, but to put these videos and share our passion with people all over the world. It's great. Also fun for guys who do train in person but like to watch video and discuss things online.
This is a good channel but dont learn any technique from any one single video. If you want to learn the jab, watch every video you can find on it, and that includes from kickboxers or muay thai or sanda and everythng else. Anyone who uses a jab in an actual fight can teach you something. Same with every other technique.
@@expertboxing, I have learned around from you. You know I watch others but you absolutely tweak and make better everything that I learn. Your knowledge of the fighting game is superb.
No. There are many ways to do things. Even my own videos will contradict each other if you watch enough of them. Different situations call for different techniques.
ok ugh coming off the lead hand is and will always be considered a "jab" the cross term comes from the rear punch "crossing" over the chest centerline so to speak now there are different variations of the jab but never would it be considered a "cross" from the lead hand SMH theres too many of these type "over analysis" videos now days but your welcome for me looking in and posting an educational reply
NOPE. Please go to a boxing gym and find out the differences for yourself. And in case you didn't know, part of the reason why "crosses" cut across the center line is because you're rotating your shoulders (which jabs don't require). You're very welcome for the free BOXING JAB 101 lesson. Merry Christmas.
When throwing a jab you are not supposed to turn your hand over until your punch is three-quarters of the way out to prevent your elbow from coming up and sticking out to the side Therefore telegraphing your punch you are telegraphing all of your jobs by turning your hand over to early also if you are worried about getting countered when you throw a jab or a right cross just keep your chin down and your shoulder High that way the shoulder will protect your chin on the same side your punching and your hand should be held up high on the other side therefore protecting you all the way around
Honestly it depends. If it lands it lands. The turning over of the hand can be used as a feint, watch Canelo or Pacquiao. Golovkin and Floyd turn their hands over early and they land. It's about quickness. In terms of keeping the shoulders high when punching, it's hard to sustain that in a 3 or 4 round fight and in the pros 12 rounds. We need to be realistic here. If you've never been in the ring it's easy to say these things. These are good fundamental tips though.
@@expertboxing That`s what I saw on a study, you watch LaMotta`s jab v Ray Robinson, his elbow didn`t stick out before he threw the jab, his jabs just pushed out from where it was and Ray couldn`t read it at all.
@Mark Ant We're now getting into the nuances. Here in Lamotta vs Robinson, I see a ton of elbow flare on the jab ruclips.net/video/SbVEeC-WjMU/видео.html If there were ever moments where Lamotta didn't elbow flare, it appeared to me it was more that he was trying to load the proper arm angle for a left hook rather than to mask a jab.
" Don't pivot on jabs. " Muhammad Ali would like to know your location. But seriously you are correct, we shouldn't pivot on jab, that boxing legend is an exception.
Hey, I was wondering, is there ever a time to keep your fist vertical when throwing straight punches, instead of turning the punch over? I had a friend tell me to use more vertical punches, but it seems counter intuitive to me. Thanks!
Check out my article/video on horizontal vs vertical punches! www.expertboxing.com/boxing-techniques/punch-techniques/horizontal-punches-vs-vertical-punches
@@expertboxing isnt there an exception for when developing a vertical punch that you can aim at certain faults in a high gaurd and try to get through or pry It open more easily than a horizontal punch
I don't feel like you covered what a jab really is extensively. Feel like you're creating a rule set that shouldn't really exist. A jab can be used to crate openings the way you explained here in this video but it can also be used in an offensive manner---- with power and rotation --- if the opportunity presents itself. The purpose of rotating is to create momentum without that you are ultimately restricting the full potential of a punch. So basically, rotate if you feel you're at a advantage or don't rotate at all to conserve energy and mostly to create openings.
@@megumi6499 Yeah but if you're in an orthodox position is it really considered a cross? I would still think of it as a jab. You can't exactly cross in that position effectively. So you would essentially still be jabbing with a bit of momentum and slight rotation of the hips. A cross would be swinging with the right with a full rotation of the foot, hips, and shoulders. It's natural to do that motion in an orthodox stance.
Thats why he says to be careful when you choose your strategy to throw the jab. It's only a tip to the people learn the basics of a safer fight. For the fighters with experience, every advice is an help, right? (But i agree with your opinion too, bro haha Thank you!)
@@JoseOliveiraTerapeuta He says to not rotate on a jab which is the part I don't fully agree on. My argument is that jabs aren't restricted to a simple motion like a parallel swing of the arm because of the factor that it limits the potential of a punch. Like you said, should be open to all corners of the world even if it comes from amateurs because perhaps they might have figured something out that the general population has not just out of pure chance. Or perhaps they see things from a completely different perspective from the general population. I don't believe in 1 technique should be followed by all like a lot of fighters often like to restrict themselves to(mexican style, african american style, ect ect..). Believe people should do what comes natural to them/is viable and for me when i used to box, snapping the jab with a slight motion of the hips came extremely natural and it was potent but it came with the cost of energy. That is where you must use that technique with caution. My entire point is that rotating the jab is practical under the right circumstances. Obviously you aren't going to be telegraphing the jab every time for obvious reasons. Also, would like to make it clear that I'm not saying my way is the only way or the best way, im trying to say that you can use jab for more than just a distraction tool/points. He's not wrong, he's giving his knowledge to the people who want to learn and that I understand/appreciate. I just wanted to give my 2 cents.
I think this is meant for beginners & the way he explained it is pretty much the textbook way to throw a jab. When you get advanced you come up with your own style and tactics of course.
I'm the only one that doesn't agree with half of the video? Ofc you shouldn't turn your head and don't look on or opponent, but is possible to apply hip rotation and shoulder, and still habe both shouldrrs face forward. Sovietic style do this...
Rotating the hips and shoulders is absolutely wrong for the jab. If you do that, it’s a left cross. Which is a different punch and serves a different purpose. What Russians do is reach forward with the front shoulder, not turning the shoulders. I actually trained with some, and even with one in Ukraine.
@@expertboxing if the punch is in a straight line is a jab. Doesn't matter if you rotate the hip or the shoulder. The pop of the jab comes from the shoulder rotation. Go check sovietic styles: ruclips.net/video/X_82qOkxp7g/видео.html is just a different style, has pros & cons. You can't say is wrong. All I can say is that I rotate many times the jab (use variations to confuse the opponents, and I can have a fast jab we power behind, and rotation helps a lot on the recovery part of the punch)
Of course you can pop it from where you are. Just don't rotate. As long as the rest of your body ain't trying to rotate, you should be fine. Pop it out!
@@expertboxing Tyson, Paterson and Marciono used to throw gazelle hooks where they leap up from a low level and reach up towards a taller opponent with more power, check it on youtube.
@Silvafox I really do not recommend doing it like that one. You gotta square up more and then you load the hook and slip at the same time, then fly up with the shot. The hard nuance is to try and drop down the stairs (although your posture may straighten); it is NOT a jump. I regret trying to explain it even this much.
This isn't "Expert"Boxing. It should be "Opinionated"Boxing. your videos keep having this problem. Twisting on the Jab is perfectly respectable. Many world champions will tell you to twist on the jab, Many (especially but not only modern) boxers will tell you to "step". BOTH are valid. The one you dont like isnt suddenly no longer a jab. Like "if you dont step, you aint a jab". They are both jabs. The twist telegraphs more and is stronger and slower. The step is weaker but doesnt telegraph and is quicker. You can find very big very famous boxers and coaches who are strongly behind both versions. The truth is both are valid and have pro's and cons. Both have their uses and you can even do BOTH together. Step or twist also changes how you chain them together. So jab cross is much faster with a step jab, but if you twist then the 1 and 2 interfere with each other more, you spin one way then the other. But you really ought to stop delivering opinionated views you have attached yourself to over the years and then start selling them as expert facts.
Sounds to me you're just angry somebody doesn't agree with you. By all means, go watch another coach if you just want to hear your own opinions echoed nonstop. Here on my channel, I serve my fans and other boxers who legitimately want to hear my take on boxing's nuances. All honest opinions from years of firsthand experience. You're welcome to redefine the jab and its variations on your terms. And others may or may not agree. The door is open for you to enter just as it is for you to leave. Thank you for stopping by.
My hand moves first I bring my shoulders in line right at the end of the strike which would be a slight rotation and stacks all my bones from my left fist down to my right foot, as I turn my fist my left shoulder naturally covers my jaw and I tilt my head off of line... I am not sure how unorthodox that may be? I guess there are many different jabs... I cant recognise this punch as a cross because my lead hand travels dirrectly from my twelve oclock toward the target...any thoughts?
I was going to write a whole description of what is a cross and what isn't but I don't have to. Please question your own logic.....if your punch is traveling directly from the 12 o'clock position straight to your opponent's face, that means your jab shoulder and fist are right in front of him and no rotation is needed whatsoever. If anything...rotating the shoulder would mean you're pulling the right hand back behind you (is that what you're doing???). Either way, you're welcome to call your punch whatever you want. At least we both know there is a difference between rotating or not. At the gym, trainers call jab+rotation a "left cross". If you want to call it a rotated jab, you may do so. Doesn't matter what you call it; this video is here for me to recommend people not to do it.
@@expertboxing Thank you for your reply, it is kind of difficult to discuss without demonstrsting the strike! The strike is straight to the opponent and the slight rotation adds significant reach and brings the whole skeleton behind the shot.The right shoulder lines up but the right hand remains at the jaw...
You are most welcome to record a video of yourself for me to see your exact demonstration. As it stands, your explanation is still illogical to me. Rotating the shoulders is absolutely not necessary for reach. If you want a longer jab, simply extend your left shoulder forward (as in standard jab technique). There is no requirement to rotate the right shoulder behind your left. Furthermore, it is anatomically unnatural to line your right shoulder up behind the left while keeping your right hand at the jaw....the moment you try to do it, your right hand will naturally peel back and end up behind or below your chin. In the meanwhile, I've left a video of GGG throwing his famous jab. I'll let you see for yourself: ruclips.net/video/Ua0Vtfu83YM/видео.html
Oh yeah??? Why don't you look at Floyd's jab and tell me if you like Floyd's better or Fran Sand's better...ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVgI/видео.htmlt ain't my place to say which boxing coach is right or wrong but I have no problems flaring elbow out a little and popping that just straight out using only a hip drop and not a hip rotation. But you should always try to learn every method and see what works for you.Here's Miguel Cotto too ruclips.net/video/kVxhi6dXR0Q/видео.html Ain't none of these dudes doing it like Fran Sands.Here's another boxing coach not doing it like Fran Sands. I could go on all day. ruclips.net/video/MskSBLt8Yws/видео.html Fran Sand's jab is probably useful if you like to fight off the back foot (running amateur style) but if you want a pro style jab or for forward movement and getting into range....I would rather do it like these other guys. I started boxing in a Mexican gym so I have a bias for forward movement. (I've never seen Fran Sands jab technique in my life but that doesn't mean it can't be useful for you. Try it!)
Since when does pivoting or rotating automatically equate to slipping? Slipping is head movement. Pivoting or rotating is foot movement or upper body twisting.
Your jab is telegraphed AF. Push the chest some more, move the goddam shoulder straight to the eye or spot you wanna get, better work with the eyes tho, ya elbow to the side allows the eye to catch that something is comming, me as a counter puncher and i'm sure some others mite" have seen it even makes space for an uppercut if that jab happens to be slipped and also you elbow, fist, showls, and chin weren't in a straight line, you could say that's your style or you pro and you know your stuff but truth is if you gonna teach at a channel called expert boxing and show us a telejab call it a non telegraphed punch dude... shameless
Shameless? Hahah. Here's a video I shared for everyone else complaining about elbow flare on the jab (it's Floyd Mayweather)...ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVg/видео.html Take care and have a good day. Merry Christmas.
@@expertboxing your hand is supposed to be close to your chin when you throw the jab, not near the chest and your shoulder should be next to your chin when the jab lands.
Hahahahahahaha! I won't even bother going over the details (of why I do what I do and when I do it) but yes, I do teach basic jab as keeping the right hand by the chin for beginners. And in fact, if you care about that nuance so much....then you know damn well you shouldn't be rotating/pivoting on the jab as that only further pulls your right hand back.
The video you shared is also a ridiculous example of punching form because I'm clearly not demonstrating form. I'm demonstrating the technique of how punches should impact the bag. Geezus...are you trolling or did you really need me to break simple shit down to this level of basic-ness for you?
Exaggerate to make a point.............who the hell turns THAT MUCH when throwing a jab? And yes, amazingly, you can rotate your shoulders and keep your head pretty much in the same position, wow.
@@expertboxing The basis of all strikes should be to hurt and eventually KO/defeat your opponent. Variations on basic-technique are fine for other purposes....but basic-technique can and should be to hurt the opponent, IMHO.
And that's the difference between BEGINNER vs ADVANCED. Noobs are always trying to add power to everything. They think all punches should be power punches. Pros use tons of set-up punches. To each their own. "The basis of all strikes should be to hurt and eventually KO/defeat your opponent." -- that's what YOU believe...but certainly not I and certainly not every fighter.
@@expertboxing Well, I did not say every punch should be devastating. I did concede that variations on things like a jab, can be used for purposes above and beyond devastation of your opponent. Somebody who wants to learn how to type 120 words-per-minute, better start off with a good instructor, that teaches them the best technique.....or their best will be mediocre.
"The jab is the can opener, the cross is the spoon."...and a million other sayings in boxing. Surely, you've heard them all. The jab's purpose is to be fast and open up your opponent for the bigger punches. It's a tactical weapon. For you to maximize the jab, is to make it faster and more strategic...not more damaging. Perhaps you've heard of the best jabbers in boxing...guys like Ali...his jab is about speed. If you want to talk about a serious jab, go in that direction. We have so many punches for power...and so few for speed/quickness and low-vulnerability. If you want to maximize the jab and find the best jab technique (should you so seek it), you utilize its most unique qualities and it's biggest strengths...that makes more sense than trying to negate its apparent weakness (low power).
meeting parents in law for the first time: i am johnny from expertboxing and today.....delivers knockout cross
Hahahahaha
This is exactly what I needed. It may seem over-explaining it but turning for the jab is exactly why the follow-up with the right hand never feels quite right. This is awesome Johnny, I though I was trying to impress my coach with the turning-jab
Hehe, happy for you man!
I get so confused. A majority of coaches teach that rotation is crucial with the jab. To me personally, Johnny's way of teaching the jab makes sense. I tried the pivot method, and although I do feel power from it, it just doesn't feel natural.
Wow, that car analogy. I really needed that. I always wondered why my punches just feels "powerless". So I just need some compressing to do. Thanks man!
Happy for you, man! Yeah...a lot of the power comes from your base if you know how to stand right. No need to bother twisting and turning and all kinds of stuff. If your base is strong (like how those old pros do it), you will have power on everything you do.
You are the best boxing teacher ive seen on RUclips
thank you
Twist out jab is a variation, and is taught in boxing gyms.
That car analogy was amazing! 100% increase in jab efficiency!
:)
Dude, I cannot begin to tell you how many channels subscribe to the method of hip/foot and/or shoulder rotation regarding the jab. Don’t get me wrong, to each his own and whatever works for you is cool but I tried the hip and foot rotation method and they didn’t feel natural to me, like, there wasn’t an easy flow to it. Maybe I was doin it wrong but I like my jab to be quick with minimal commitment. I’ve kinda learned if you need more power, step with it, if you need more range, extend your shoulder…this is just what works for me and everyone has what works for them
YESSSSSS!!!!
It depends on how you use it.
You can actually surprise your opponent ,by doing a combo like jab , jab and then a left cross
Yeah exactly, left crosses can be effective in a combo. And you can still get that powerful hip movement without turning your head away from the opponent
Best video on the net
These videos are great! I've recently started training in MMA but these boxing techniques can easily be applied in the octagon too. Much respect for sharing your knowledge 👍
Thank you!
I read the title and immediately knew I was fucking this one up. Always told I had a powerful jab but now I realize it’s a left cross... fuck me.
Hahahah!
Thank you so much brother! I've been doing it mistakenly for defense/protection's sake. I'm correcting it since now!
Thanks a lot Johnny for such precious advices... For a beginner like me it's damn precious.. looking forward for more videos like this
@gomezadam sure, will check
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
Excellent video. I also had a habit of turning, even overturning my head and body and took a few months to fix this. Thanks!
Happy for you, man!!!
That's why footwork is so Essential and I say that because if a boxer crouches every time he or she jabs, I'm gonna see that all day. That's why footwork camouflage that so we'll. And yes, definitely step into your punches. Not an over reach or telegraph the step too much, but out your body behind the punch
Great content bro, best of luck to you!!!
What Johhny did, but forgot to mention was, when you jab like him, keep your chin behind your fist. Let it block for you by hiding you chin behind it.
Excellent video.
Hey man!! I miss you so much! You help me a lot when I’m started to boxing! In my country people don’t talk about the technique like that! Your videos and your articles helped me a lot! I glad that you come back! Everything are okay?! Sending love from Brazil!
Thank you, Lucas!!!
Wow that car analogy blew my mind, I have a pretty good jab but this is a really good reminder as to why you should maintain your stance
I couldnt help but notice the tapes used for placing the banner on the wall
Astute observation, sir.
Expert BOXING, not expert interior decorations hahaha, good eye though.
Thanks for the tips!! Glad to see you back to the channel! I'm big fan of your work!
I'm very happy to be back as well! Please make all your requests!
Thanks for this. I've been questioning whether it's better to rotate or not. Very helpful!!
I've actually wondered as well. I'd love to see Johnny do a reaction to fran sands jab video.
Very good stuff! Thanks from Texas.
Canelo vs Angulo
* Only time I have personally seen a left cross used in a combination.
- Jab, Rear Straight, Lead Straight
Completely agree though,
most people who don't have their boxing basics down tend to throw that power jab.
Aldo vs Perez at WEC is a prime example of leaving yourself open but Perez also had bad habits 🤷♂️
Knee Counter KO to a Pivot Jab to the body btw.
I've been taught to keep your lead hand about level to your shoulder so when you fire off a jab it goes out in a straight line to the target.
Everything chambered:
- no elbow flares
- no rolling of the shoulder
- rotation of the fist at 90% extension
Every punch has it's uses but I get what you're saying because pivoting that way with your jab, EVERY TIME, a good fighter will read that and have that split second to prepare a response.
Basically, you become too easy to read especially against a person with an affinity for counter punching when your Pivot Jab is the only way you know how to Jab. Every punch has a purpose but a Jab is to gauge distance, distrupt rhythm, etc. Don't try to KO someone with it every time because the KO% of that punch is low I mean I think Edson Barboza got KO'd by a Jab, but MMA with it's small gloves, is a different animal to boxing gloves.
Great content brotha!
Just like I shared with another comment earlier....here's Floyd Mayweather with an "elbow flare" on his jab (nothing wrong with it!) ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVg/видео.html
@@expertboxing
Oh yeah Mayweather has beautiful technique!
He follows the principle of what I had mentioned earlier where it comes straight out.
What I meant was like most fighters have a tell when they are fighting. For example the elbow flare I mentioned was like before they fire their jab they load up with they (it's hard to explain it) but they load up with their shoulder, something like rounding their shoulder forward, before they throw their jab.
In the elbow flare case, it's like they know to rotate their fist but they end up rotating like they raise their elbow from vertical to horizontal first before firing off the jab.
The Philly Shell/Hitman stance that Floyd employs pretty much requires the lead hand to be low so the elbow flare he has is understandable( it's part of his stance)
PS.
Hope you didn't think I was critiquing your jab! 😱 I respect your knowledge and experience your videos helped me with transition from a casual slugger to "boxer" though that's a stretch to call myself that 😂
Always a pleasure watching your videos! And thanks for replying!
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Better way to explain the tells is most people start their jab with their shoulder first or their elbow first when, as the video you linked shows, it actually starts from the ✊
Fist->elbow->shoulder follows
Most people
Shoulder->elbow->fist
Lol that actually perfectly describes snapping your punches vs pushing your punches
*Writes it down in notes
No offense taken, my friend. I don't think Floyd's jab is unique. Tons of fighters (pros and amateurs) jab with the elbow flare. Elbow down is good for defense but if what you want to do is punch, elbow up is gonna be faster and more practical. It's great you've been able to break the jab down from fist to shoulder as well as vice versa. I actually cover tons of techniques in my advanced guides. I won't explain it all here.....but try playing with lat to fist and also fist to lat. Then also try the fist-to-lat connection but with as well as without the shoulder in line. Lots of variations in there for you to mess with. Totally different feel! ;)
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Ayeeee thanks for the suggestion brotha! I'll definitely try that out. I love variations and fluidity, the human chess aspect of fighting, so having technique variations is a major thing for me.
Keep doing what you're doing!
Love your stuff homie!
There are countless jabs. The example youre showing while you may think is correct is completely squared up to an opponent. So when you learn to box and fight, youll be bladed and the rotation is necessary to give your jab range and power, because of bone structure. The rotation of the wrist inward before impact is the most important thing that gives the jab a solid, powerful feel and prevents damaging your joints. The neck rotation is benefitial because incoming punches wont land as cleanly. Any head movement in general is benifitial. Cheers.
Thanks for the help, like always I learnt a lot from your videos
You're welcome!
I see now that I over rotate and that is why Ive been getting hammered in the ribs on my left side then getting overwhelmed, its because Im almost turning my back to him. THANKS!
Awesome! Yes! These are the things you have to watch for.
Great video. Really helped with my jab problems. Thanks Johnny!
awesome!!!
This guy is absolutely great! Where have you been Man! Damn!
Just been here in my living room this whole time. Knocking out a few beers and then some RUclips videos! Where you been?! :D
How to deal with someone with power, a dangerous backhand
Cool i was testing this out a few days ago
That's awesome. Thank you.
I don't know man, I think I can take you in a fight.
I just need to learn how to fight first...
With these videos, you will surely defeat me! :D
@@expertboxing Damnit you're such an awesome guy! Subscribed!
LMAO
thanks coach
Lets just say this is one way of throwing a jab. First, I am a boxing trainer and although this technique is a good one, its not the best one since you are telegraphing the jab. And if you continue to throw that way, you will get timed and countered. The best way to throw the jab is what you displayed at 2:28. Your elbows are down (making it difficult to see the punch coming) and you throw with a snap. Perhaps the rotate jab is best for throwing then stepping out of the pocket. Keep up the good work!
I like to throw my jab like Mayweather....with an elbow flare: ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVg/видео.html
Have had no problems with it getting timed or anything. Many old school guys threw it that way as well.
Excellent video 👌! Very detailed, to the point and accurate
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed.
Nice video Johnny, I still see a lot of coaches teach the rotation on the jab which is just plain wrong. Keep up the good work 👍🏼
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed.
This makes sense. I will be careful my jab.
Johnny, a great advice again, thanks. Now l've got why my right cross is not that fast and comfortable, and it is hard to throw a right hook after jab
Awesome. Glad something clicked for you.
i do agree with you but to say dont do it removes all other equations and situations rotating can be used to slip a punch and hit them with that counter jab and yes i know going into that completely changes what you're talking about here but i just think that saying dont do it could remove certain aspects you could be using
Yes, that completely changes what I'm saying. The jab (with a slip) that you see is basically a small rotation of the head/spine/head (not the feet) and then bend at the waist. And that's a loose rotation rather than a tight forced rotation. If you're digging for a devil's advocate, this is the closest one for it but yeah...it's an entirely different topic in itself.
There are so many different schools and opinions. Thomas Yankello, PA coach who trained world class champs says quite opposite.
Which world champions did he train?
@@expertboxing I can't paste a link here. Just Google, Thomas Yankello wiki.... He has a few videos on RUclips including the master class how to jab..he trained Roy Jones Jr., Paul Spadafora, Monty Meza-Clay and etc.
Yeah, I’m the biggest Roy Jones fan ever and actually my style is somewhat modeled after him. I’m 100% sure he doesn’t pivot on the jab. He doesn’t even reach, zero body movement just arm.ruclips.net/video/J0d_Lyeg8Z4/видео.html
Thank you for this post you are a master of your trade
Thank you!
Damn, great vid.
This is brilliant
Thank you!
Thank you so much, sir!
Know it, but still like that you mention it, Even now there are some people trying to pivot foot on jab lol
Hahaha seriously! This is like one of the most common noob mistakes. Argh!!!
@@expertboxing I know even trainers teaching it lol..... atleast like 10-20% of legit trainters with boxing trainer license in my country :/ #Poland
Aghhhhhhhhhh, SERIOUS?! At least these polish boxers don't: ruclips.net/video/vhDoj-3MBLU/видео.html
No boxing gym or for that any martialarts gym in my city. people say learning from youtube will induce bad habits and dysfunctional technique. But hey, better than absolutely nothing, and helps in self defence 90% if you can atleast do a jab cross and hook properly
That's a big part of why I do this channel. There are so many people out there who love boxing but don't have access to gyms or trainers. And plenty of older fighters or females that trainers don't want to spend time with (because that want to focus on young/potential-champions). Nothing will ever beat a personal coach in person, it's how I learned, but to put these videos and share our passion with people all over the world. It's great. Also fun for guys who do train in person but like to watch video and discuss things online.
This is a good channel but dont learn any technique from any one single video. If you want to learn the jab, watch every video you can find on it, and that includes from kickboxers or muay thai or sanda and everythng else. Anyone who uses a jab in an actual fight can teach you something. Same with every other technique.
Another one
He should call his channel tweak boxing because he has the best repairs and fixes in the game!
thank you ricky!
@@expertboxing, I have learned around from you. You know I watch others but you absolutely tweak and make better everything that I learn. Your knowledge of the fighting game is superb.
I like to do it like Sonny Liston
nice
I've been studying this video, and Fran Sands jab tutorial. So, is Fran Sands wrong??
No. There are many ways to do things. Even my own videos will contradict each other if you watch enough of them. Different situations call for different techniques.
thanks mr wayne
Hahahha, hey what's up man?!!
busy but your videos are helping me stand up straight. Keep up the posts!
ok ugh coming off the lead hand is and will always be considered a "jab" the cross term comes from the rear punch "crossing" over the chest centerline so to speak now there are different variations of the jab but never would it be considered a "cross" from the lead hand SMH theres too many of these type "over analysis" videos now days but your welcome for me looking in and posting an educational reply
NOPE. Please go to a boxing gym and find out the differences for yourself. And in case you didn't know, part of the reason why "crosses" cut across the center line is because you're rotating your shoulders (which jabs don't require). You're very welcome for the free BOXING JAB 101 lesson. Merry Christmas.
When throwing a jab you are not supposed to turn your hand over until your punch is three-quarters of the way out to prevent your elbow from coming up and sticking out to the side Therefore telegraphing your punch you are telegraphing all of your jobs by turning your hand over to early also if you are worried about getting countered when you throw a jab or a right cross just keep your chin down and your shoulder High that way the shoulder will protect your chin on the same side your punching and your hand should be held up high on the other side therefore protecting you all the way around
So you telling me Floyd's jab (with the elbow flare) is wrong? ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVg/видео.html
Honestly it depends. If it lands it lands. The turning over of the hand can be used as a feint, watch Canelo or Pacquiao. Golovkin and Floyd turn their hands over early and they land. It's about quickness. In terms of keeping the shoulders high when punching, it's hard to sustain that in a 3 or 4 round fight and in the pros 12 rounds. We need to be realistic here. If you've never been in the ring it's easy to say these things. These are good fundamental tips though.
@@expertboxing That`s what I saw on a study, you watch LaMotta`s jab v Ray Robinson, his elbow didn`t stick out before he threw the jab, his jabs just pushed out from where it was and Ray couldn`t read it at all.
@Mark Ant We're now getting into the nuances. Here in Lamotta vs Robinson, I see a ton of elbow flare on the jab ruclips.net/video/SbVEeC-WjMU/видео.html If there were ever moments where Lamotta didn't elbow flare, it appeared to me it was more that he was trying to load the proper arm angle for a left hook rather than to mask a jab.
" Don't pivot on jabs. "
Muhammad Ali would like to know your location.
But seriously you are correct, we shouldn't pivot on jab, that boxing legend is an exception.
lol, there is such a thing as pivot jabs, but that’s different from what i’m talking about here
Nice !!!!! Thankyou...
What about the Tyson jab
Huh if your twisting then your boxing stance is wrong
Hey, I was wondering, is there ever a time to keep your fist vertical when throwing straight punches, instead of turning the punch over? I had a friend tell me to use more vertical punches, but it seems counter intuitive to me. Thanks!
Check out my article/video on horizontal vs vertical punches! www.expertboxing.com/boxing-techniques/punch-techniques/horizontal-punches-vs-vertical-punches
@@expertboxing isnt there an exception for when developing a vertical punch that you can aim at certain faults in a high gaurd and try to get through or pry It open more easily than a horizontal punch
I don't feel like you covered what a jab really is extensively. Feel like you're creating a rule set that shouldn't really exist. A jab can be used to crate openings the way you explained here in this video but it can also be used in an offensive manner---- with power and rotation --- if the opportunity presents itself. The purpose of rotating is to create momentum without that you are ultimately restricting the full potential of a punch.
So basically, rotate if you feel you're at a advantage or don't rotate at all to conserve energy and mostly to create openings.
So, what you're saying is throw a left cross for power by rotating, and throw a jab to create openings by not rotating.
@@megumi6499 Yeah but if you're in an orthodox position is it really considered a cross? I would still think of it as a jab. You can't exactly cross in that position effectively. So you would essentially still be jabbing with a bit of momentum and slight rotation of the hips. A cross would be swinging with the right with a full rotation of the foot, hips, and shoulders. It's natural to do that motion in an orthodox stance.
Thats why he says to be careful when you choose your strategy to throw the jab. It's only a tip to the people learn the basics of a safer fight. For the fighters with experience, every advice is an help, right?
(But i agree with your opinion too, bro haha Thank you!)
@@JoseOliveiraTerapeuta He says to not rotate on a jab which is the part I don't fully agree on. My argument is that jabs aren't restricted to a simple motion like a parallel swing of the arm because of the factor that it limits the potential of a punch. Like you said, should be open to all corners of the world even if it comes from amateurs because perhaps they might have figured something out that the general population has not just out of pure chance. Or perhaps they see things from a completely different perspective from the general population. I don't believe in 1 technique should be followed by all like a lot of fighters often like to restrict themselves to(mexican style, african american style, ect ect..). Believe people should do what comes natural to them/is viable and for me when i used to box, snapping the jab with a slight motion of the hips came extremely natural and it was potent but it came with the cost of energy. That is where you must use that technique with caution. My entire point is that rotating the jab is practical under the right circumstances. Obviously you aren't going to be telegraphing the jab every time for obvious reasons.
Also, would like to make it clear that I'm not saying my way is the only way or the best way, im trying to say that you can use jab for more than just a distraction tool/points. He's not wrong, he's giving his knowledge to the people who want to learn and that I understand/appreciate. I just wanted to give my 2 cents.
I think this is meant for beginners & the way he explained it is pretty much the textbook way to throw a jab. When you get advanced you come up with your own style and tactics of course.
Do I pivot my lead foot when I throw the liver shot?
you can but for maximum power, don’t
@@expertboxing Thank you for replying. Really appreciate an answer from an expert.
Look up g-mans shadowboxing. Good example of what hes talking about.
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I'm the only one that doesn't agree with half of the video? Ofc you shouldn't turn your head and don't look on or opponent, but is possible to apply hip rotation and shoulder, and still habe both shouldrrs face forward. Sovietic style do this...
Rotating the hips and shoulders is absolutely wrong for the jab. If you do that, it’s a left cross. Which is a different punch and serves a different purpose.
What Russians do is reach forward with the front shoulder, not turning the shoulders. I actually trained with some, and even with one in Ukraine.
@@expertboxing if the punch is in a straight line is a jab. Doesn't matter if you rotate the hip or the shoulder. The pop of the jab comes from the shoulder rotation. Go check sovietic styles: ruclips.net/video/X_82qOkxp7g/видео.html is just a different style, has pros & cons. You can't say is wrong. All I can say is that I rotate many times the jab (use variations to confuse the opponents, and I can have a fast jab we power behind, and rotation helps a lot on the recovery part of the punch)
Okay but what if you twist your arm which brings your shoulder to your face to protect your chin are you still open for a counter punch
You’re always open somewhere when you punch.
@@expertboxing ok but this other dude told me that I was throwing the jab wrong by twisting my arm and fist at the end of my jab what do you think
Today was my first day at boxing and the trainer told me while throwing a jab to rotate the front leg and use the hip ... is it wrong ?
Obviously, I disagree with him. Using the hip is fine but rotating it, I don’t recommend.
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I weigh about 120-135 pounds what oz of boxing gloves can i use 8,10,12, 14 because i notice 16 oz gloves are to big for me
10oz and less
So no moving your shoulder forward when jabbing???
Of course you can pop it from where you are. Just don't rotate. As long as the rest of your body ain't trying to rotate, you should be fine. Pop it out!
Can you post a video on switching stances while punching and gazelle punch
What's a gazelle punch?
@@expertboxing it a leaping hook mike tyson and roy jones does it leak ruclips.net/video/Wn2fkN_G6Eg/видео.html
@@expertboxing Tyson, Paterson and Marciono used to throw gazelle hooks where they leap up from a low level and reach up towards a taller opponent with more power, check it on youtube.
Oh that kind of stuff. Man, I'm scared to show it because beginners always do it wrong and risk getting knocked out.
@Silvafox I really do not recommend doing it like that one. You gotta square up more and then you load the hook and slip at the same time, then fly up with the shot. The hard nuance is to try and drop down the stairs (although your posture may straighten); it is NOT a jump. I regret trying to explain it even this much.
This isn't "Expert"Boxing. It should be "Opinionated"Boxing. your videos keep having this problem.
Twisting on the Jab is perfectly respectable. Many world champions will tell you to twist on the jab, Many (especially but not only modern) boxers will tell you to "step". BOTH are valid. The one you dont like isnt suddenly no longer a jab. Like "if you dont step, you aint a jab". They are both jabs. The twist telegraphs more and is stronger and slower. The step is weaker but doesnt telegraph and is quicker. You can find very big very famous boxers and coaches who are strongly behind both versions. The truth is both are valid and have pro's and cons.
Both have their uses and you can even do BOTH together. Step or twist also changes how you chain them together. So jab cross is much faster with a step jab, but if you twist then the 1 and 2 interfere with each other more, you spin one way then the other.
But you really ought to stop delivering opinionated views you have attached yourself to over the years and then start selling them as expert facts.
Sounds to me you're just angry somebody doesn't agree with you. By all means, go watch another coach if you just want to hear your own opinions echoed nonstop.
Here on my channel, I serve my fans and other boxers who legitimately want to hear my take on boxing's nuances. All honest opinions from years of firsthand experience. You're welcome to redefine the jab and its variations on your terms. And others may or may not agree.
The door is open for you to enter just as it is for you to leave. Thank you for stopping by.
My hand moves first I bring my shoulders in line right at the end of the strike which would be a slight rotation and stacks all my bones from my left fist down to my right foot, as I turn my fist my left shoulder naturally covers my jaw and I tilt my head off of line... I am not sure how unorthodox that may be? I guess there are many different jabs... I cant recognise this punch as a cross because my lead hand travels dirrectly from my twelve oclock toward the target...any thoughts?
I was going to write a whole description of what is a cross and what isn't but I don't have to. Please question your own logic.....if your punch is traveling directly from the 12 o'clock position straight to your opponent's face, that means your jab shoulder and fist are right in front of him and no rotation is needed whatsoever. If anything...rotating the shoulder would mean you're pulling the right hand back behind you (is that what you're doing???). Either way, you're welcome to call your punch whatever you want. At least we both know there is a difference between rotating or not. At the gym, trainers call jab+rotation a "left cross". If you want to call it a rotated jab, you may do so. Doesn't matter what you call it; this video is here for me to recommend people not to do it.
@@expertboxing Thank you for your reply, it is kind of difficult to discuss without demonstrsting the strike! The strike is straight to the opponent and the slight rotation adds significant reach and brings the whole skeleton behind the shot.The right shoulder lines up but the right hand remains at the jaw...
You are most welcome to record a video of yourself for me to see your exact demonstration. As it stands, your explanation is still illogical to me. Rotating the shoulders is absolutely not necessary for reach. If you want a longer jab, simply extend your left shoulder forward (as in standard jab technique). There is no requirement to rotate the right shoulder behind your left. Furthermore, it is anatomically unnatural to line your right shoulder up behind the left while keeping your right hand at the jaw....the moment you try to do it, your right hand will naturally peel back and end up behind or below your chin. In the meanwhile, I've left a video of GGG throwing his famous jab. I'll let you see for yourself: ruclips.net/video/Ua0Vtfu83YM/видео.html
Not sure who is right, you or this guy ruclips.net/video/CmpqqsmiP70/видео.html
I do know your jab is easier to see as you pop your elbows out.
Oh yeah??? Why don't you look at Floyd's jab and tell me if you like Floyd's better or Fran Sand's better...ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVgI/видео.htmlt ain't my place to say which boxing coach is right or wrong but I have no problems flaring elbow out a little and popping that just straight out using only a hip drop and not a hip rotation. But you should always try to learn every method and see what works for you.Here's Miguel Cotto too ruclips.net/video/kVxhi6dXR0Q/видео.html Ain't none of these dudes doing it like Fran Sands.Here's another boxing coach not doing it like Fran Sands. I could go on all day. ruclips.net/video/MskSBLt8Yws/видео.html Fran Sand's jab is probably useful if you like to fight off the back foot (running amateur style) but if you want a pro style jab or for forward movement and getting into range....I would rather do it like these other guys. I started boxing in a Mexican gym so I have a bias for forward movement. (I've never seen Fran Sands jab technique in my life but that doesn't mean it can't be useful for you. Try it!)
It’s called slipping while throwing the jab. Why is that bad
Since when does pivoting or rotating automatically equate to slipping? Slipping is head movement. Pivoting or rotating is foot movement or upper body twisting.
nice video, any idea on how NOT to make your lead hook telegraphic, or to have a quick lead(left) hook?
Here's my video on how to throw a LEAD LEFT HOOK - ruclips.net/video/hV5GifafOIc/видео.html
Your jab is telegraphed AF.
Push the chest some more, move the goddam shoulder straight to the eye or spot you wanna get, better work with the eyes tho, ya elbow to the side allows the eye to catch that something is comming, me as a counter puncher and i'm sure some others mite" have seen it even makes space for an uppercut if that jab happens to be slipped and also you elbow, fist, showls, and chin weren't in a straight line, you could say that's your style or you pro and you know your stuff but truth is if you gonna teach at a channel called expert boxing and show us a telejab call it a non telegraphed punch dude... shameless
Shameless? Hahah. Here's a video I shared for everyone else complaining about elbow flare on the jab (it's Floyd Mayweather)...ruclips.net/video/pxgNU8LtVVg/видео.html Take care and have a good day. Merry Christmas.
Why can't I see your feet?
You need to scroll down some more.
@@expertboxing hihi I scrolled for it...
this guy is the last guy to be talking about the jab, look at his other videos when he's hitting the heavy bag and watch his jab 😆
Oh yeah? Show me which ones.
@@expertboxing ruclips.net/video/mnItLUgOM68/видео.html. Here you go 👍
@@expertboxing your hand is supposed to be close to your chin when you throw the jab, not near the chest and your shoulder should be next to your chin when the jab lands.
Hahahahahahaha! I won't even bother going over the details (of why I do what I do and when I do it) but yes, I do teach basic jab as keeping the right hand by the chin for beginners. And in fact, if you care about that nuance so much....then you know damn well you shouldn't be rotating/pivoting on the jab as that only further pulls your right hand back.
The video you shared is also a ridiculous example of punching form because I'm clearly not demonstrating form. I'm demonstrating the technique of how punches should impact the bag. Geezus...are you trolling or did you really need me to break simple shit down to this level of basic-ness for you?
Exaggerate to make a point.............who the hell turns THAT MUCH when throwing a jab? And yes, amazingly, you can rotate your shoulders and keep your head pretty much in the same position, wow.
Hahaha, you underestimate the power of beginners!
@@expertboxing The basis of all strikes should be to hurt and eventually KO/defeat your opponent. Variations on basic-technique are fine for other purposes....but basic-technique can and should be to hurt the opponent, IMHO.
And that's the difference between BEGINNER vs ADVANCED. Noobs are always trying to add power to everything. They think all punches should be power punches. Pros use tons of set-up punches. To each their own. "The basis of all strikes should be to hurt and eventually KO/defeat your opponent." -- that's what YOU believe...but certainly not I and certainly not every fighter.
@@expertboxing Well, I did not say every punch should be devastating. I did concede that variations on things like a jab, can be used for purposes above and beyond devastation of your opponent. Somebody who wants to learn how to type 120 words-per-minute, better start off with a good instructor, that teaches them the best technique.....or their best will be mediocre.
"The jab is the can opener, the cross is the spoon."...and a million other sayings in boxing. Surely, you've heard them all. The jab's purpose is to be fast and open up your opponent for the bigger punches. It's a tactical weapon. For you to maximize the jab, is to make it faster and more strategic...not more damaging. Perhaps you've heard of the best jabbers in boxing...guys like Ali...his jab is about speed. If you want to talk about a serious jab, go in that direction. We have so many punches for power...and so few for speed/quickness and low-vulnerability. If you want to maximize the jab and find the best jab technique (should you so seek it), you utilize its most unique qualities and it's biggest strengths...that makes more sense than trying to negate its apparent weakness (low power).