Just for fun, I calculated how far away the horizon would be for a 6-foot tall person whose eye-level was 5.5 feet off the lunar ground. With a radius of 1,080 miles x 5,280 feet/mile, ground level on the Moon would be 5,702,400 feet, and eye-level would be 5,702,405.5 feet (i.e. from the Moon's center). Subtracting the square of the former from the square of the latter gives 62,726,400, and the square root of that is 7,920 feet, which is equal to exactly 1.5 miles. An astronaut on the Moon would be able to see about 1.5 miles to the actual horizon. The same person standing on the Earth would be able to see about 2.87 miles to the earthly horizon. But I doubt if the guys who dreamed up the name PROJECT: HORIZON were all that bothered about the actual distance to the lunar horizon from the vantage point of an astronaut standing on the Moon.
Actually, no.. it isn't. look into the early '90s NASA space program debacle. that's where we went wrong. Sure, it Coulda been neat however, especially at this point, it's kinda silly to build up a base there. when we can just shoot for Mars settlement or Venus 'cloud cities'. research it. Well Wishes ;)
There once was a project Orion, that was to use atomic bombs against a shock absorber radiation shield to propel a group of astronaut scientists on a tour out to Jupiter (asI recall) to be launched when several other planets were lined up to help with accelerating the craft, slingshot effect. As I recall the project was defunded as a result of the SALT talks to limit nuclear bombs in space.
I believe the company that did all the work was and still is based in San Diego, California..the idea was to drop a miniaturized atomic bomb at a specific synchronized time behind the ship and the shockwaves would propel the giant bullet up into space..good idea until you realize that there is no way to catch the emitted radiation..they tried a supersonic airplane back in the early 50s powered by atomic energy too but there was much radiation left in the environment..there are some great ideas that once you take into consideration your cost don't go anywhere. Space X is trying to copy the same type of spacecraft configuration for a long space trip, good luck with that, deep space travel presents more challenges than just going up into low orbit, but we can dream right!
If that had gone forward the life expectancy of all people on this planet would be about 40 years, that's why it was abandoned, it would have polluted our atmosphere with loads of radiation.
No oxygen in space. Nukes won't blow out there. There were other reasons and ulterior motives, as is expected from these "people". The mystery of the moon is theirs. We will never know because they won't tell us. We'll never see because they'll never allow us to go.
The main problem would have been lifting the nukes out of the Earth's gravity well - if the rocket had failed it would be raining nukes which, even if their primers had been removed, would have been frowned on...
@@perezengful you analysis and information are quite interesting. The concept of miniaturized nuclear weapon to provide impulse thru shockwaves cleared me the original concept that I had about Orion. At the end of the day, radiation is the main issue to materialize this concept-
This is mind blowing.I was 5 years old in 1969,and remember watching the moon landing on TV,although it was so grainy,that it was hard to make out much more than shadowy figures near a large machine,the LEM module.
People were never able to pass the Van Allen Belt due to the extremely high radiation. The astronauts stayed in LEO and unmanned probes were sent to the moon to put the laser reflectors there. The moon films were filmed in at an airforce base. I think 2023 will be the first time that people actually can pass the Van Allen Belt, because the SpaceX Starship has a compartment inside where the astronauts can hide, protected by 2m of water around the compartment.
6 years old at the time. The FCC allowed the TV stations to boost up their transmission wattage to broadcast those events. I didn't even have to touch the "rabbit ears" on the TV, lol
@@DarkestTikTok Yes. I'm sure with the technology they had the time there was no way they could of patched the telephone through to the radio. I see you're a real critical thinker 😂
Twenty years of competition took us from sub-sonic prop planes to landing on the moon. Thirty years of international cooperation took us from low-earth orbit to slightly lower low earth orbit.
That's not what happened, are you trying to revise historical data or just make things up? I assume you have first hand non photo copied reports from airline mfg, nasa etc and not doing your "research" based off your own findings from the internet?
such lofty ambitions, I'd love to visit the alternate reality where the base was built, hopefully they'd also have the flying cars we were supposed to have by now, probably accomplished by countries actually peacefully cooperating with eachother instead of secretly hoarding knowledge within their borders like we have been doing for centuries in this world
yes agree. i wonder if they actually built it tho and just never told us. we are in the dark on almost everything. they protected our democracy by destroying it in massive secrecy. to justin in this comment section, wars are not the only way to spur imagination. that meme only serves to keep humanity divided primitive and vulnerable to outside takeover which is happening now without your knowing. for humanity to really get going you need planetary sovereignty wich you will never have as long as you are divided and conned into killing your fellow man for lies.
'Equestria'? dont u mean Equestrial or something? ;) LOLz, MLP vibes. But no, Srsly. THAT SOUNDS EPIK. what you think Vault-Tec DID with all that Money they skimmed by skimping out on the Vaults! :DD haaah~ I Love it. srsly, good idea! "Fall Out 3: New Vegas '...meanwhile, on Luna...' "
@@glytchd yes MLP vibes, its a crossover fic. 1.8 MILLION word fan made fiction. Thats about as long as the entire harry potter series. Based in the same world that another author created, Fallout Equesteia. A fallout 3 inspired, 620,000 word monster that inspired its own fandom-within-a-fandom. Well worth the read even if you know jack-didly about MLP.
These videos are awesome. Great narration. Similar to stuff they don't want you to know. Keep bringing the truths to the forefront. People need to know. Awareness is our only hope.
There is a simple numbers game that tells you no, not before the Apollo program landed man on the Moon. There is no way to hide the rocket launches to do it. And Saturn V was a beast of a rocket 10m (33 ft) wide, a flying skyscraper full of highly energetic rocket fuel and oxidizer just to get two people to the surface of the Moon for a short period of time before they burned through their supplies and had to come back. If you run the numbers on the Saturn V, it quickly becomes clear why this was the case. To get the rocket into orbit, ~97.5% of the mass of the rocket was expended just getting to LEO (low Earth orbit. So yeah, that 10m wide flying skyscraper didn't even quite make it to orbit and a much smaller 3rd stage was used to make it the rest of the way there. Then there was the big burn of the 3rd stage to make it out to the Moon, expending its entire propellant load. So yeah, that 3rd stage is gone; it is all used up and now you are just on your way out to the Moon, not to say what happens next. So then you have the small service module attached to the command module to get slow down and get into orbit around the Moon. That takes a large chunk of what is in those tanks. So then you leave the service module in LLO (low Lunar orbit) and send down the LEM (Lunar excursion module). This uses a full stage comprising much of the little bit of mass that is left to land on the Moon. At this you barely have enough mass budget to stick two people in the LEM for a relatively short period of time. Then the LEM has a second stage to get back off of the Moon so it can get back to the service module and then its propellant load is spent. So then whatever little is left in the service module gets the command module away from the Moon and falling back to Earth. That is what we were able to do by the end of the 1960's. At this a tonne of technology was invented just so all of this could happen. We simply did not have the technology such as the computer systems to make it work. At this the first LEM had its computer system overload and humans had to act to get the LEM onto the surface of the Moon in one piece. So yeah, barely pulled it off the first time from a technological standpoint. We had just advanced enough to do it by then and at that were flying by the seat of our pants, but not before; it just wasn't possible with the technology available. At this the technology developed for the Apollo program transformed the world we live in. You can't do anything these days without using technology that first appeared in and for the Apollo program. Another way to think about it is the return on investment of the Apollo program is huge, much larger than I think most anybody realizes and if you are reading this now, you are using technology that came out of the Apollo program. For a future Moon base, I would be betting on SpaceX. They need a proving ground with a closer celestial object before sending people to Mars. With the Moon, if something goes wrong, it is possible to make it back to the Earth in a few days. It is also possible to remote control stuff from Earth in case some computer in a rover or something proves to not be up to snuff. On Mars, you are a long ways from Earth and everything has to work, or it could be years before people on Earth can do anything about it. Like if your super advanced regenerative life support system fails on your Mars trip, you are not going to run your backup tried and true non-regenerative life support system for a few days while you head back to Earth or people on Earth send you replacement parts for the ones that broke. Instead after a few days if you couldn't fix the advanced regenerative life support system, your backup system will run out of supplies and then you die. This particular life support example is super important for a Mars mission because you are not going to have a huge carrying capacity for a once through life support system as that would be years worth of supplies for everything including the air you breath and the water you drink among other things. Instead if you can recycle the waste or at least as much of it as possible and get it to be the supply again, new air, new toilet to tap water, etc, you don't need to pack years of supplies, but instead have some fancy machinery that keeps you alive for years on end; maybe just keep feeding it power so it can do its job and change out some filters / scrubbers here and there that get a whole lot done before they need changing.
@@Coconutszz the whole point of going to Mars is to have a self sustaining population off of Earth. Having a pile of supplies without self sustainability is not sustainable. Also certain key things have a limited shelf life.
@@ChaJ67 If you ask me.. I'd much prefer the 'have a gun & not need it'. Yes, we'll make the mission self-sustainable. but gee, wouldnt it be nice to have a 'Plan B'.. espeically when ur life depends on it. who knows what might happen. especially without a fall-back RTG (heaven forbid we use the power of the atom + 'green'(not so green) energy)
@@Coconutszz Spare Pre-fab modules, backup generators, *SPARE PARTS* & a small supply of food & fuel definately sounds like a good idea when trying to *Start a Colony on a **-New World-* ;) Learn from History, eh!
@@glytchd I am not saying that is a bad idea. Instead, there is a technological aspect to making it possible as in you can't just brute force make it happen. Like if your loved one is seriously ill in the hospital, you can't brute force them into living. Instead if the tech is there to keep them alive and you don't mind parting with your hard earned buckazoids and maybe even liquidate all of your earthly possessions and declare bankruptcy (at least in the USA), the advanced medical tech may keep them alive, at least a little longer. But yeah, when you go back to Apollo, there was a huge STEM push and education push in general. College in the USA was basically free, especially compared to how it is now. So yeah that education and tech push made Apollo possible. We really need another push like that to make Mars possible. The rocket itself you have seen SpaceX make prototypes of is just the shell of one of the many things necessary for a Mars colony to possibly work. I mean back in Apollo, having the highly educate Wernher von Braun and his team from Germany was only a piece to the Apollo puzzle just as SpaceX and Starship itself is only a piece to the puzzle.
@@glytchd you need to learn about basic concepts such as spall 😔 From wikipedia, since you don't believe in it: Spall are fragments of a material that are broken off a larger solid body. It can be produced by a variety of mechanisms, including as a result of projectile impact, corrosion, weathering, cavitation, or excessive rolling pressure (as in a ball bearing). Spalling and spallation both describe the process of surface failure in which spall is shed.
@@glytchd i looked up the mini nuke: The M-28 or M-29 Davy Crockett Weapon System was a tactical nuclear recoilless smoothbore gun for firing the M388 nuclear projectile, armed with the W54 nuclear warhead, that was deployed by the United States during the Cold War. It was the first, and, at the time, the most important project assigned to the United States Army Weapon Command in Rock Island, Illinois.[3] It remains one of the smallest nuclear weapon systems ever built, with a yield of 20 tonnes of TNT (84 GJ). A 165mm, 29 Kilogram HESH round will take out a tank from spalling...so what do you think a 20 tonne explosive round would do? 😲
@@RexJet The moons regolith contains water-ice, this has been hypothesized since the late 1920's if I recall. To cool a space craft in a vacuum you use infrared radiation, albeit on the moon you could pump waste heat into the surface so it wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
My ex father in law told me that he sewed an inflatable habitat for the moon base, but wasn’t sure if it was ever used or not. It may have been just used for research here on earth…or my be still sitting in a undisclosed warehouse.
I have seen and got to touch 12 Davy Crockett and their displays in Fort Knox. And it makes more sense using one on the moon I never knew they had been considered for that purpose
if they really wanted to push themselves, America could have had a moon base by the 1976 bicentennial celebration.. too bad they didnt realize how informative/ important a moon base really could be..
Population of US found space travel boring, news coverage became spottier and spottier as we move up Apollo missions. As a kid in that time I was always disappointed on how little coverage there was. I was lucky to tour the Apollo semi that toured US but it still was too little info. Thankfully what got done got done and we are sort of refocused now.
@@jamesocker5235 Agreed, this was even pointed out in Apollo 13 (Tom Hanks movie, 1997) i was so Hopeful as a Youth in the 90s. too bad the Space Shuttle was itself a Compromize; that thing was supposed to make Trips to the Moon & Back ON THE REGULAR It's sad that "Mars Direct" never happened either. and the Revitilization in the Early 90s (1st Bush admin) never happened. Which some major fault was that of NASA politics, too.. eveyrone's 'pet-project' was tacked on to the bill & The Senate got 'Sticker Shock'. So Sad.
Three possibilities: 1. It failed with Disastrous outcome. Years of setback for space exploration. 2. Successful and open up space for humans exploration. Positive competition among nations. 3. Successful but triggered early Star Wars.
Interesting. Very insightful stuff. It still gets me upset man's inability to share technology for a better world for all, rather than by fear, hatred and the secrecy it continues on it's people, and they number of people who died, and perhaps murdered keeping those secrets.
@@Administrator_O-5 why would the US keep it secret? A moon base would have been an excellent moral boost, if there was one then the US would’ve taunted the Soviets about it for decades. Most of the space race was for national pride anyway (since only one geologist actually got to go to the moon) so to keep the base a secret wouldn’t make sense.
It could have been done, but not on that time scale, I think. Had they started setting up habitations and equipment, they would have run into a whole host of unexpected problems relating to the nasty nature of lunar dust (for example).
Bacteria and fungi becomes a problem in enclosed domes. Unlike earth where there's tons and they work as a whole ecosystem, a few become dominant and become a real problem. Even people who work with breeding mushrooms have lung problems even in the sterile environments because of the sheer amount of spores constantly generated. There's RUclips videos talking about guys growing mushrooms in tubs with micropore tape as the only airflow on those boxes noticing breathing problems from having them in their bedroom.
The proposal of a furtherance of the nuclear arms race on the moon was and still is utter madness. The numerous dangers and difficulties of space travel and of habitation of the moon are considered almost insurmountable even today. The risks to personal safety and logistical considerations alone are formidable, let alone the political will or conflicts.
And even if this improbable feat was accomplished it would just antagonise the Russians further. Of course the American MIC would (and still will) attempt to justify all of this as "self defense" and so on but you are right when you say it was utter madness.
Still. Woulda been neat to have some level of Richard A. Heinlein / E.E. 'Doc' Smith type History & probably still Present Reality to study. Heck, maybe all these Urban-Culture-Society wouldn't be so Fixated on NOT going to the Stars if we had a 'Tycho City' by now.. It saddens me to see how 'Mars Direct' (NASA Mars Reference Mission Model) never got implemented in the late 90s. 'just hang out in LEO' I guess :/ Meanwhile: China FTW? ...This IS all Assuming we didnt destroy ourselves thx to the Escalated Tensions. ;)
President Eisenhower understood that the same manpower, resources, and $$$$ squandered on a moon base (at a time when even manned low Earth Orbital spacecraft was a challenge) was altogether UNREALISTIC1 Where is Eisenhower now that we really NEED him?
Anything is possible if you have enough will and money but to be really successful at this task would be a large guestion. The logistics would be enormous and very dangerous for years to come. Chances are that even the USA would eventually capitulate to the high costs especially after the Soviets gave up on a Moon Base.
It would be interesting & appropriate for you to add an observation, now and then, about how ridiculous an idea something like Project Horizon was. There was no way that could have possibly been achieved in the time frame considered. No one has yet dug even a trench into the Moon's surface 50 years later.
thats mostly because we havent tried, or had the reason to do so. this however doesnt mean that it would have been economically feasible to set up a complete moon base....
You says "cuz no one's done it in 50yrs = It would have been IMPOSSIBRU in '60s" Yeah uhm, Obvious Logic-Fault there bud. *It hasn't happened cuz NO ONE HAS TRIED.* See? U might have some wires crossed. cirrca. 'Present day' isn't 'all that' ; kewl tech existed long b4 u were born. Come back when you have a circuit board worth printing.
@@glytchd The US did indeed prove it possible to land on the Moon by July 1969. Therefore the problem is not so much technological as financial for Project Horizon. Financing Project Horizon would have required an infeasibly large portion of the US gross domestic product. Unlike the USSR’s command economy which could simply order projects and force projects to happen essentially for free, the US’ reliance on corporations as suppliers would have required paying for the project. It wasn’t until Nixon administration that the exchange rate of the Dollar was uncoupled from gold, thus there was not the ability to pay for Project Horizon with funny-money in the early 1960s. If it had been possible, devalued Dollar to raise funds to pay for Project Horizon could have triggered painful price inflation. The nuclear reactors did exist and had been used in Camp Century in Greenland and the US outpost in Antarctica, but had containment vessels weighing about 20 tons. Some way to make the constituent reactor parts less massive would have had to be found. What we don’t know is if it is feasible to build the underground shelters required to shield from space radiation by way of actually having done it. For whatever reason, the USSR was also unable to pull off a moon base, let alone a successful manned moon mission in the 1960s. One has to assume doing so is still a pretty tall order even to this day for both financial and technological reasons.
@Ivan Jakanov Therorizing Moon caverns in the 1950s seemed to be a popular thing. The idea is romanticized in the 1951 movie Cat Women of the Moon which available for streaming. The US sends a rocket to the Moon hooping to find a hospitable zone between the light and dark sides. (Of course, the dark side is only dark to us.). The lunar explorers find a cavern inhabited by cat women. Speaking of movies, George Pal produced a big budget movie also in 1951, Destination Moon, which tried to get the science and technical details of a trip to the Moon correct. There are some technical errors, but over-all the movie is a decent effort. The rocket bears quite a resemblance to the SpaceX Starship. Pal explores the politics of the nascent space and issues of the legitimacy of using nuclear power, somewhat superficially. One of the more curious features is the embedded Woodie the Woodpecker film which the rocket executive uses to educate his backers about action/reaction - of course it was meant to educate the audience. This film is also available for streaming and is an interesting look back into mid 20th century space culture. One interesting thing is one of the lunar explorers says something very close to Buzz Aldrin’s “magnificent desolation” quote after setting foot on the moon.
Hahahaha........So glad that someone here has been to the moon and cant clear this up for us. Or maybe your one of the sheep that believes everything abc and fox 4 tells you. You probably are still wearing a mask and getting vaccines too huh? You probably still dont know what the moon is and what its made of. Probably dont know that you can extract water and oxygen from moon dust and the bi product is Helium 3, which is the ideal fuel for spaceships. Your so far behind my friend, which explains why you are still thinking about if man has even dug a trench yet on the moon HAHAHA. Keep on shoveling my friend. Uncle Sam wants that trench nice and deep.
.75 speed is really nice for your videos. I love the content, the speed of talking is a bit absurd. I also take adderol so i'm not judging. Just some constructive criticism my friend. Love the channel!
Apart from all the usual problems, one of them is of paramount importance, the temperature. Daytime temperatures near the lunar equator reach a boiling 250 degrees Fahrenheit (120° C, 400 K), while nighttime temperatures get to a chilly -208 degrees Fahrenheit (-130° C, 140 K). The Moon's poles are even colder.
I distinctly remember hearing about a golf shot on the moon, but seems little is said about it. Can you do some digging for us? Thanks a bunch. Great stuff.
Of course we could have made and manned a moon base, and we'd have made incredible advances in technology simply through the learning process involved, but the actual cost would have been staggering.
I believe if the base was built, we would have occurred. The tensions were way too high to let a military base exist with the air of untouchability behind it. I'm all for peaceful exploration of our solar system as the technological hurdles benefit everybody now, not in 40 years (classified technologies are held back until the tech edge is no longer viable)....
Search "Von Braun broke his arm". Lots of sources including wikipedia. "While on an official trip in March (1945), von Braun suffered a complicated fracture of his left arm and shoulder in a car accident after his driver fell asleep at the wheel. His injuries were serious, but he insisted that his arm be set in a cast so he could leave the hospital. Due to this neglect of the injury he had to be hospitalized again a month later where his bones had to be rebroken and realigned"
Yes. I do think it would have been possible. I think the safety and usefulness would have been questionable, but I think if they had wanted it badly enough, it could have happened.
Yes I think it would be possible to put a base on the moon back in the '70s and '80s and now I think they're taking too long to get off the ground with Artemis 1.
Long time since I chose to watch one of the videos on this channel. The research is still excellent and the editing is good, but the sped-up voice (about 20%!) is still very annoying! I just don't understand why this ridiculous method is used. I've seen this done on only a few other RUclips videos... and it wasn't nearly as bad (not sped-up as much). But it still was noticeable and annoying. But on this channel, it's just unwatchable. Of course, reducing the playback speed to 0.85 brings the speech back to a normal pace, but creates artifacts that are as annoying if not more. So it looks like I'll come back to the channel in another year and see if someone has finally come to their senses... Cheers!
I know what you mean. Im glad it doesn't bug me like this but yeah.. srsly. Heck, ive seen him get Obvious Fact *WRONG* on SO many occassions. things that would take a few seconds each to fact check even.
I swear we still live in the Fallout from the 80s. heck we still got 80s corporate law governing the rights & speech of our citizens. most of these laws make NO sense in the Modern dark-age of information. they were forged for a time when the Air-waves were controlled by multi-conglomerates...
'66, '67 !!! Hell, I thought we didn't land on the moon until 1969 ! Where did this project figure on such early outcomes, when we didn't have the spacecraft yet to get there ?
Apollo took a significant slow-down after the Apollo 1 fire. Without the fire, and if you skimped on flights to validate the safety of the concept and got lucky, 66' would have been on the boundaries of a plausible landing date.
It would appear that we will never learn. We COULD have done this back then, but instead we spent our fortune in Vietnam. Then we COULD have done it, but we spent another fortune in the Mid-East over the last many dozens of years, sending bullets and bombs. Now it would be nice to do it, but for whatever reason, we would rather be the enemy of Russia, whom we once worked with on our exploratory missions such as Skylab and the space station. War seems to always be more important. Perhaps a first step would be Term Limits for all our politicians.
i can't believe the army was like "we have to defend our moon base with space claymores and davy crocket anti tank weapons" when a bow and arrow or a slingshot would totally wreck an astronaut's suit
👽👽👽 What are the odds of this list... 1972 last moon landing 1972 Von Braun left NASA 1972 Space force 1972 Space Shuttle 1972 Last full off world pic of earth 1972 Harry Truman died. he signed off on the operation paperclip 1972 CJ Phillips became head of NSA, also created by Harry Truman Phillips was the director of NASA first moon landing. What are the odds??? And this 1972 list is massive; in fact, it's everything.
if anyone who sees this, and wonders what would happen if Ussr won all the space race, watch the series called "For All Mankind". Kind of the Drama-esque thing, but it should be one of the most accurate things that could have happened.
Fun fact, we do have a 🌚 base. When you dig deep and find the dotted clues, draw the line. Here’s a thought for everyone to explore as a prerequisite. Remember the camouflage plane technology that was being developed by DARPA and in around Area 51 some 20 years ago? I wonder what ever came of that. Another question to explore, after the consolidation of the industrial complex, why were engineers that built aircraft carriers sent to Antarctica? 🤔
Please go more into detail and briefly explain your reasoning as I would like to check the conclusion I came to regarding the engineers sent to Antarctica In comparison to yours. 😉
Crying shame we needed to recruit Von Braun to get us to space and develop increasingly dangerous conditions for all on earth considering what his V2s did to the British, especially in London.
Because of contemporary geopolitics I'm not going to mention what has been declassified, though it's safe to say the race is on to take America politically because of something successful she has technologically.
if they did this, we now already had a moonbase, we now already have a sustainable enviroment within a moonbase, we had then a better succesrate for a mars base
Man, the cold war was a school yard scrap compared to the state of the current world. Russia, Ukraine, North Korea, Taiwan, China, The Coof, Climate disaster, Fuel scarcity, Boiling oceans, Melting Ice Caps! It was nice knowing you Dark aha!
@@Critical-Thinker895 yeah, that's why Havana is asking for it again in 2022. Both sides in the Kennedy era were looking for guarantees. Putin is trying to re-instate a completely dead ideology (Socialism). He's believed to be hiding in a bunker with a bottle of copium shoved up his hole according to Ukraine.
I should hope that if it serves as any kind of deterrent, that would be against relying on the military for predictions about the future… _Mom… If you don’t buy me a super-sonic atomic bionic moon base kit… all hell’s gonna break loose!_
For All Mankind has so many tie-ins from actual history, it’s really cool to learn about this on here. Thankyou!
Can't wait for season 3
Shame it's only on Apple+
And also you need a CC
Awsome series that !
After watching this, it makes me wonder if defence planners also wrote scripts for Saturday morning cartoons.
I wouldn't be one but surprised if there are fully-functional bases on the moon, fully stocked and manned. No fit-bits allowed.
Just for fun, I calculated how far away the horizon would be for a 6-foot tall person whose eye-level was 5.5 feet off the lunar ground. With a radius of 1,080 miles x 5,280 feet/mile, ground level on the Moon would be 5,702,400 feet, and eye-level would be 5,702,405.5 feet (i.e. from the Moon's center). Subtracting the square of the former from the square of the latter gives 62,726,400, and the square root of that is 7,920 feet, which is equal to exactly 1.5 miles. An astronaut on the Moon would be able to see about 1.5 miles to the actual horizon. The same person standing on the Earth would be able to see about 2.87 miles to the earthly horizon. But I doubt if the guys who dreamed up the name PROJECT: HORIZON were all that bothered about the actual distance to the lunar horizon from the vantage point of an astronaut standing on the Moon.
interesting stuff
Mathematician's....always out here playin with numbers. =P
Hum, not going to check but at least Moonies would see clearly.
Even by night even if they can not see stars :(
Glad you found that fun. The name refers to the Dawn of a New Age. Twit.
I'm sure with "refraction" they could see for muuuuuuuuuch further.
We had to try to build a base there, the US couldn't let the Nazi's riding dinosaurs be the only military force on the moon.
Iron Sky is a documentary!
The moon nazis are here and i used to be a black astronaut
@@joshkilluminadi7158 A Blastronaut
Shut up Jeremy How about I ride you to the moon and back then?
I wonder where we really are technologically..
You've perfected your words per minute, appreciate all your work my friend.
I have not thought about it until now, but you're right.
Is he real or just a robotc
I respect efficiency
I actually like listening to him at .75 speed, Seems to rushed at 1x
@@scottwilliams5642 think its meant to be that way your right sounds normal :)
I think a moon base is the first logical step in our further exploration of space...cheers.
Never going to happen!!
@@MrKerry4371 Sadly you may be right at least for the near future.
@@MrKerry4371 Why not? Those who shall not be criticized already have "Space Lasers" 😉
Actually, no.. it isn't. look into the early '90s NASA space program debacle. that's where we went wrong. Sure, it Coulda been neat however, especially at this point, it's kinda silly to build up a base there. when we can just shoot for Mars settlement or Venus 'cloud cities'. research it. Well Wishes ;)
LOL
There once was a project Orion, that was to use atomic bombs against a shock absorber radiation shield to propel a group of astronaut scientists on a tour out to Jupiter (asI recall) to be launched when several other planets were lined up to help with accelerating the craft, slingshot effect. As I recall the project was defunded as a result of the SALT talks to limit nuclear bombs in space.
I believe the company that did all the work was and still is based in San Diego, California..the idea was to drop a miniaturized atomic bomb at a specific synchronized time behind the ship and the shockwaves would propel the giant bullet up into space..good idea until you realize that there is no way to catch the emitted radiation..they tried a supersonic airplane back in the early 50s powered by atomic energy too but there was much radiation left in the environment..there are some great ideas that once you take into consideration your cost don't go anywhere. Space X is trying to copy the same type of spacecraft configuration for a long space trip, good luck with that, deep space travel presents more challenges than just going up into low orbit, but we can dream right!
If that had gone forward the life expectancy of all people on this planet would be about 40 years, that's why it was abandoned, it would have polluted our atmosphere with loads of radiation.
No oxygen in space. Nukes won't blow out there. There were other reasons and ulterior motives, as is expected from these "people".
The mystery of the moon is theirs. We will never know because they won't tell us. We'll never see because they'll never allow us to go.
The main problem would have been lifting the nukes out of the Earth's gravity well - if the rocket had failed it would be raining nukes which, even if their
primers had been removed, would have been frowned on...
@@perezengful you analysis and information are quite interesting. The concept of miniaturized nuclear weapon to provide impulse thru shockwaves cleared me the original concept that I had about Orion. At the end of the day, radiation is the main issue to materialize this concept-
This is mind blowing.I was 5 years old in 1969,and remember watching the moon landing on TV,although it was so grainy,that it was hard to make out much more than shadowy figures near a large machine,the LEM module.
@David Wang that's interesting, I've never heard anyone point that out. Kind of a really important detail to leave out
People were never able to pass the Van Allen Belt due to the extremely high radiation. The astronauts stayed in LEO and unmanned probes were sent to the moon to put the laser reflectors there. The moon films were filmed in at an airforce base.
I think 2023 will be the first time that people actually can pass the Van Allen Belt, because the SpaceX Starship has a compartment inside where the astronauts can hide, protected by 2m of water around the compartment.
6 years old at the time. The FCC allowed the TV stations to boost up their transmission wattage to broadcast those events. I didn't even have to touch the "rabbit ears" on the TV, lol
Wonder how they talked to Nixon on a landline phone from the moon?
@@DarkestTikTok Yes. I'm sure with the technology they had the time there was no way they could of patched the telephone through to the radio. I see you're a real critical thinker 😂
Man, if the Soviets hadn't gone out of business so quickly, we would have had a TON of super cool space stuff by now.
every day is another day that the military budget isnt being given to nasa
Not sure you can say they went out of business, just got re-branded.
Most of us would be in Gulags if that had happened.
@@TheWizardGamez Nasa's really been sitting on their hands doing very little lately though. That's why SpaceX is getting contracts and SLS isn't.
Competition has driven everything humans have made
Yours videos are impressive and intresting where a wide events of our history has been told on a great way... your narrativ is amaizing...best luck
What if that program actually never ended...
It's a shame they couldn't have worked together for the good of the world instead of fighting. Imagine it would be amazing.
Who fought?
Twenty years of competition took us from sub-sonic prop planes to landing on the moon. Thirty years of international cooperation took us from low-earth orbit to slightly lower low earth orbit.
That's not what happened, are you trying to revise historical data or just make things up? I assume you have first hand non photo copied reports from airline mfg, nasa etc and not doing your "research" based off your own findings from the internet?
In the series For All Mankind, both sides had bases on the moon.
Both sides of what?
Hey I'm glad you're reading the script a lot slower I can actually understand you now. I might start watching this channel again
such lofty ambitions, I'd love to visit the alternate reality where the base was built, hopefully they'd also have the flying cars we were supposed to have by now, probably accomplished by countries actually peacefully cooperating with eachother instead of secretly hoarding knowledge within their borders like we have been doing for centuries in this world
Have you checked out for all mankind?
@@pricelessppp What I was going to say....
Yes u haven't left mankind. U are mankind. Also war is the mother of invention. No wars we would still be in the middle ages.
yes agree. i wonder if they actually built it tho and just never told us. we are in the dark on almost everything. they protected our democracy by destroying it in massive secrecy. to justin in this comment section, wars are not the only way to spur imagination. that meme only serves to keep humanity divided primitive and vulnerable to outside takeover which is happening now without your knowing. for humanity to really get going you need planetary sovereignty wich you will never have as long as you are divided and conned into killing your fellow man for lies.
Can Allen shut them down
And thus it inspired one of the best pieces of fan fiction created. Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons.
'Equestria'? dont u mean Equestrial or something? ;) LOLz, MLP vibes. But no, Srsly.
THAT SOUNDS EPIK. what you think Vault-Tec DID with all that Money they skimmed by skimping out on the Vaults! :DD haaah~ I Love it. srsly, good idea! "Fall Out 3: New Vegas '...meanwhile, on Luna...' "
@@glytchd yes MLP vibes, its a crossover fic. 1.8 MILLION word fan made fiction. Thats about as long as the entire harry potter series. Based in the same world that another author created, Fallout Equesteia. A fallout 3 inspired, 620,000 word monster that inspired its own fandom-within-a-fandom. Well worth the read even if you know jack-didly about MLP.
my dad worked on that missile program between 1956 to 1960
These videos are awesome. Great narration. Similar to stuff they don't want you to know. Keep bringing the truths to the forefront. People need to know. Awareness is our only hope.
The narration sucks. He’s talking way to fast.
Too bad you don't have any awareness that you've been lied to. It's amazing that you can't see it.
awareness is are only hope for what?
There is a simple numbers game that tells you no, not before the Apollo program landed man on the Moon. There is no way to hide the rocket launches to do it. And Saturn V was a beast of a rocket 10m (33 ft) wide, a flying skyscraper full of highly energetic rocket fuel and oxidizer just to get two people to the surface of the Moon for a short period of time before they burned through their supplies and had to come back. If you run the numbers on the Saturn V, it quickly becomes clear why this was the case. To get the rocket into orbit, ~97.5% of the mass of the rocket was expended just getting to LEO (low Earth orbit. So yeah, that 10m wide flying skyscraper didn't even quite make it to orbit and a much smaller 3rd stage was used to make it the rest of the way there. Then there was the big burn of the 3rd stage to make it out to the Moon, expending its entire propellant load. So yeah, that 3rd stage is gone; it is all used up and now you are just on your way out to the Moon, not to say what happens next. So then you have the small service module attached to the command module to get slow down and get into orbit around the Moon. That takes a large chunk of what is in those tanks. So then you leave the service module in LLO (low Lunar orbit) and send down the LEM (Lunar excursion module). This uses a full stage comprising much of the little bit of mass that is left to land on the Moon. At this you barely have enough mass budget to stick two people in the LEM for a relatively short period of time. Then the LEM has a second stage to get back off of the Moon so it can get back to the service module and then its propellant load is spent. So then whatever little is left in the service module gets the command module away from the Moon and falling back to Earth. That is what we were able to do by the end of the 1960's. At this a tonne of technology was invented just so all of this could happen. We simply did not have the technology such as the computer systems to make it work. At this the first LEM had its computer system overload and humans had to act to get the LEM onto the surface of the Moon in one piece. So yeah, barely pulled it off the first time from a technological standpoint. We had just advanced enough to do it by then and at that were flying by the seat of our pants, but not before; it just wasn't possible with the technology available. At this the technology developed for the Apollo program transformed the world we live in. You can't do anything these days without using technology that first appeared in and for the Apollo program. Another way to think about it is the return on investment of the Apollo program is huge, much larger than I think most anybody realizes and if you are reading this now, you are using technology that came out of the Apollo program.
For a future Moon base, I would be betting on SpaceX. They need a proving ground with a closer celestial object before sending people to Mars. With the Moon, if something goes wrong, it is possible to make it back to the Earth in a few days. It is also possible to remote control stuff from Earth in case some computer in a rover or something proves to not be up to snuff. On Mars, you are a long ways from Earth and everything has to work, or it could be years before people on Earth can do anything about it. Like if your super advanced regenerative life support system fails on your Mars trip, you are not going to run your backup tried and true non-regenerative life support system for a few days while you head back to Earth or people on Earth send you replacement parts for the ones that broke. Instead after a few days if you couldn't fix the advanced regenerative life support system, your backup system will run out of supplies and then you die. This particular life support example is super important for a Mars mission because you are not going to have a huge carrying capacity for a once through life support system as that would be years worth of supplies for everything including the air you breath and the water you drink among other things. Instead if you can recycle the waste or at least as much of it as possible and get it to be the supply again, new air, new toilet to tap water, etc, you don't need to pack years of supplies, but instead have some fancy machinery that keeps you alive for years on end; maybe just keep feeding it power so it can do its job and change out some filters / scrubbers here and there that get a whole lot done before they need changing.
quick idea: send an ASSLOAD of supplies to Mars before a manned mission. a METRIC ASSLOAD even.
@@Coconutszz the whole point of going to Mars is to have a self sustaining population off of Earth. Having a pile of supplies without self sustainability is not sustainable. Also certain key things have a limited shelf life.
@@ChaJ67 If you ask me.. I'd much prefer the 'have a gun & not need it'. Yes, we'll make the mission self-sustainable. but gee, wouldnt it be nice to have a 'Plan B'.. espeically when ur life depends on it. who knows what might happen. especially without a fall-back RTG (heaven forbid we use the power of the atom + 'green'(not so green) energy)
@@Coconutszz Spare Pre-fab modules, backup generators, *SPARE PARTS* & a small supply of food & fuel definately sounds like a good idea when trying to *Start a Colony on a **-New World-* ;) Learn from History, eh!
@@glytchd I am not saying that is a bad idea. Instead, there is a technological aspect to making it possible as in you can't just brute force make it happen. Like if your loved one is seriously ill in the hospital, you can't brute force them into living. Instead if the tech is there to keep them alive and you don't mind parting with your hard earned buckazoids and maybe even liquidate all of your earthly possessions and declare bankruptcy (at least in the USA), the advanced medical tech may keep them alive, at least a little longer.
But yeah, when you go back to Apollo, there was a huge STEM push and education push in general. College in the USA was basically free, especially compared to how it is now. So yeah that education and tech push made Apollo possible. We really need another push like that to make Mars possible. The rocket itself you have seen SpaceX make prototypes of is just the shell of one of the many things necessary for a Mars colony to possibly work. I mean back in Apollo, having the highly educate Wernher von Braun and his team from Germany was only a piece to the Apollo puzzle just as SpaceX and Starship itself is only a piece to the puzzle.
Stories have been circulating for decades that we do in fact have bases on the backside of the moon out of prying eyes of the population.
Reminds me of the fact, that one of the Lunar-landers went 'missing' in storage...
Welp its time to revisit project horizons documentation
I think at the time, this was a bridge too far.
The Davey Crockett was a tactical nuke, Not an "anti-tank weapon".
It would likely kill the crew though when stuff blows off the internal tank armor.
@@hicknopunk you REALLY need to Research this failed weapon.
Cute idea, but Nukes dont scale-down well. Also, "internal tank armor"???
@@glytchd you need to learn about basic concepts such as spall 😔
From wikipedia, since you don't believe in it:
Spall are fragments of a material that are broken off a larger solid body. It can be produced by a variety of mechanisms, including as a result of projectile impact, corrosion, weathering, cavitation, or excessive rolling pressure (as in a ball bearing). Spalling and spallation both describe the process of surface failure in which spall is shed.
@@glytchd i looked up the mini nuke:
The M-28 or M-29 Davy Crockett Weapon System was a tactical nuclear recoilless smoothbore gun for firing the M388 nuclear projectile, armed with the W54 nuclear warhead, that was deployed by the United States during the Cold War. It was the first, and, at the time, the most important project assigned to the United States Army Weapon Command in Rock Island, Illinois.[3] It remains one of the smallest nuclear weapon systems ever built, with a yield of 20 tonnes of TNT (84 GJ).
A 165mm, 29 Kilogram HESH round will take out a tank from spalling...so what do you think a 20 tonne explosive round would do? 😲
bro, i learn the best with ur voice! plz be on everything!
7:09 Wait, what, did he just say "water and oxygen would be extracted from the moon"? As if they already knew that the moon has water?
Hello, how can you have water or oxygen in a high vacuum without a container? bonus question how does one cool a spacecraft in a high vacuum?
@@RexJet Huh, tf? I'm not a scientis lmao
@@RexJet The moons regolith contains water-ice, this has been hypothesized since the late 1920's if I recall. To cool a space craft in a vacuum you use infrared radiation, albeit on the moon you could pump waste heat into the surface so it wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
@@RexJet "how does one cool a spacecraft in a high vacuum?"
You release a bit of gas produced by the cryogenic propellants.
@@ddegn - No you use thermal radiators. Like the Shuttle did by opening its cargo bay doors. The insides of the big doors had them.
My ex father in law told me that he sewed an inflatable habitat for the moon base, but wasn’t sure if it was ever used or not. It may have been just used for research here on earth…or my be still sitting in a undisclosed warehouse.
Mine told me he found a leprechaun
I have seen and got to touch 12 Davy Crockett and their displays in Fort Knox. And it makes more sense using one on the moon I never knew they had been considered for that purpose
if they really wanted to push themselves, America could have had a moon base by the 1976 bicentennial celebration..
too bad they didnt realize how informative/ important a moon base really could be..
Population of US found space travel boring, news coverage became spottier and spottier as we move up Apollo missions. As a kid in that time I was always disappointed on how little coverage there was. I was lucky to tour the Apollo semi that toured US but it still was too little info. Thankfully what got done got done and we are sort of refocused now.
@@jamesocker5235 Agreed, this was even pointed out in Apollo 13 (Tom Hanks movie, 1997)
i was so Hopeful as a Youth in the 90s. too bad the Space Shuttle was itself a Compromize; that thing was supposed to make Trips to the Moon & Back ON THE REGULAR
It's sad that "Mars Direct" never happened either. and the Revitilization in the Early 90s (1st Bush admin) never happened. Which some major fault was that of NASA politics, too.. eveyrone's 'pet-project' was tacked on to the bill & The Senate got 'Sticker Shock'. So Sad.
We throw so much money down the 'War on Poverty' rabbit hole.
@@haworthlowell805 and the "war on drugs" & "war on terror" & just good old fashioned war..
Three possibilities:
1. It failed with Disastrous outcome. Years of setback for space exploration.
2. Successful and open up space for humans exploration. Positive competition among nations.
3. Successful but triggered early Star Wars.
Option 4 - both Russia and United States went broke.
Russia because of systemic problems.
United States because of Vietnam.
@@allangibson2408 I forgot the reality 😁
Interesting. Very insightful stuff. It still gets me upset man's inability to share technology for a better world for all, rather than by fear, hatred and the secrecy it continues on it's people, and they number of people who died, and perhaps murdered keeping those secrets.
Shame we never really went back after Apollo
Makes one to wonder if we ever went 🤔
@@adeptpeasant6161 I mean no not really
@@Administrator_O-5 lol, proof? Why would we still be there, the moon is literally worthless for the most part.
@@Administrator_O-5 you've literally proved my point. Dense fool
@@Administrator_O-5 why would the US keep it secret? A moon base would have been an excellent moral boost, if there was one then the US would’ve taunted the Soviets about it for decades. Most of the space race was for national pride anyway (since only one geologist actually got to go to the moon) so to keep the base a secret wouldn’t make sense.
Enjoyed your video and so I gave it a Thumbs Up as a support
Very cool...very interesting thank you sir
That was an age when we thought of things, great things, and did them; now we're trying to figure out what bathroom to use. What a shame we've become.
It could have been done, but not on that time scale, I think. Had they started setting up habitations and equipment, they would have run into a whole host of unexpected problems relating to the nasty nature of lunar dust (for example).
Bacteria and fungi becomes a problem in enclosed domes. Unlike earth where there's tons and they work as a whole ecosystem, a few become dominant and become a real problem. Even people who work with breeding mushrooms have lung problems even in the sterile environments because of the sheer amount of spores constantly generated. There's RUclips videos talking about guys growing mushrooms in tubs with micropore tape as the only airflow on those boxes noticing breathing problems from having them in their bedroom.
Yes I read that the dust is very sharp and destroys space suits,
🎼 _"Vonce ze rockets are up, who cares vhere zey come down? Zat's not my department!" says Wernher Von Braun_ 🎶
Moon Base operations went into the black over the following decades. They never stopped the mission to do this; just the public stopped knowing.
The proposal of a furtherance of the nuclear arms race on the moon was and still is utter madness. The numerous dangers and difficulties of space travel and of habitation of the moon are considered almost insurmountable even today. The risks to personal safety and logistical considerations alone are formidable, let alone the political will or conflicts.
Those were the good old days, Operation FishBowl was more sane?
And even if this improbable feat was accomplished it would just antagonise the Russians further. Of course the American MIC would (and still will) attempt to justify all of this as "self defense" and so on but you are right when you say it was utter madness.
Still. Woulda been neat to have some level of Richard A. Heinlein / E.E. 'Doc' Smith type History & probably still Present Reality to study. Heck, maybe all these Urban-Culture-Society wouldn't be so Fixated on NOT going to the Stars if we had a 'Tycho City' by now.. It saddens me to see how 'Mars Direct' (NASA Mars Reference Mission Model) never got implemented in the late 90s. 'just hang out in LEO' I guess :/ Meanwhile: China FTW?
...This IS all Assuming we didnt destroy ourselves thx to the Escalated Tensions. ;)
President Eisenhower understood that the same manpower, resources, and $$$$ squandered on a moon base (at a time when even manned low Earth Orbital spacecraft was a challenge) was altogether UNREALISTIC1
Where is Eisenhower now that we really NEED him?
Anything is possible if you have enough will and money but to be really successful at this task would be a large guestion. The logistics would be enormous and very dangerous for years to come. Chances are that even the USA would eventually capitulate to the high costs especially after the Soviets gave up on a Moon Base.
Thanks for everything you,!
Great vid Dark Space 👍
Thanks for posting
It would be interesting & appropriate for you to add an observation, now and then, about how ridiculous an idea something like Project Horizon was. There was no way that could have possibly been achieved in the time frame considered. No one has yet dug even a trench into the Moon's surface 50 years later.
thats mostly because we havent tried, or had the reason to do so. this however doesnt mean that it would have been economically feasible to set up a complete moon base....
You says "cuz no one's done it in 50yrs = It would have been IMPOSSIBRU in '60s"
Yeah uhm, Obvious Logic-Fault there bud. *It hasn't happened cuz NO ONE HAS TRIED.* See? U might have some wires crossed.
cirrca. 'Present day' isn't 'all that' ; kewl tech existed long b4 u were born. Come back when you have a circuit board worth printing.
@@glytchd The US did indeed prove it possible to land on the Moon by July 1969. Therefore the problem is not so much technological as financial for Project Horizon. Financing Project Horizon would have required an infeasibly large portion of the US gross domestic product. Unlike the USSR’s command economy which could simply order projects and force projects to happen essentially for free, the US’ reliance on corporations as suppliers would have required paying for the project. It wasn’t until Nixon administration that the exchange rate of the Dollar was uncoupled from gold, thus there was not the ability to pay for Project Horizon with funny-money in the early 1960s. If it had been possible, devalued Dollar to raise funds to pay for Project Horizon could have triggered painful price inflation.
The nuclear reactors did exist and had been used in Camp Century in Greenland and the US outpost in Antarctica, but had containment vessels weighing about 20 tons. Some way to make the constituent reactor parts less massive would have had to be found. What we don’t know is if it is feasible to build the underground shelters required to shield from space radiation by way of actually having done it.
For whatever reason, the USSR was also unable to pull off a moon base, let alone a successful manned moon mission in the 1960s. One has to assume doing so is still a pretty tall order even to this day for both financial and technological reasons.
@Ivan Jakanov Therorizing Moon caverns in the 1950s seemed to be a popular thing. The idea is romanticized in the 1951 movie Cat Women of the Moon which available for streaming. The US sends a rocket to the Moon hooping to find a hospitable zone between the light and dark sides. (Of course, the dark side is only dark to us.). The lunar explorers find a cavern inhabited by cat women.
Speaking of movies, George Pal produced a big budget movie also in 1951, Destination Moon, which tried to get the science and technical details of a trip to the Moon correct. There are some technical errors, but over-all the movie is a decent effort. The rocket bears quite a resemblance to the SpaceX Starship. Pal explores the politics of the nascent space and issues of the legitimacy of using nuclear power, somewhat superficially. One of the more curious features is the embedded Woodie the Woodpecker film which the rocket executive uses to educate his backers about action/reaction - of course it was meant to educate the audience. This film is also available for streaming and is an interesting look back into mid 20th century space culture. One interesting thing is one of the lunar explorers says something very close to Buzz Aldrin’s “magnificent desolation” quote after setting foot on the moon.
Hahahaha........So glad that someone here has been to the moon and cant clear this up for us. Or maybe your one of the sheep that believes everything abc and fox 4 tells you. You probably are still wearing a mask and getting vaccines too huh? You probably still dont know what the moon is and what its made of. Probably dont know that you can extract water and oxygen from moon dust and the bi product is Helium 3, which is the ideal fuel for spaceships. Your so far behind my friend, which explains why you are still thinking about if man has even dug a trench yet on the moon HAHAHA. Keep on shoveling my friend. Uncle Sam wants that trench nice and deep.
.75 speed is really nice for your videos. I love the content, the speed of talking is a bit absurd. I also take adderol so i'm not judging. Just some constructive criticism my friend. Love the channel!
Apart from all the usual problems, one of them is of paramount importance, the temperature.
Daytime temperatures near the lunar equator reach a boiling 250 degrees Fahrenheit (120° C, 400 K), while nighttime temperatures get to a chilly -208 degrees Fahrenheit (-130° C, 140 K). The Moon's poles are even colder.
I distinctly remember hearing about a golf shot on the moon, but seems little is said about it. Can you do some digging for us? Thanks a bunch. Great stuff.
Of course we could have made and manned a moon base, and we'd have made incredible advances in technology simply through the learning process involved, but the actual cost would have been staggering.
And look at the debt they're in EVEN NOT having done that
Reflect on the psychology of men who see no other path except get them before they get you.
I believe if the base was built, we would have occurred. The tensions were way too high to let a military base exist with the air of untouchability behind it. I'm all for peaceful exploration of our solar system as the technological hurdles benefit everybody now, not in 40 years (classified technologies are held back until the tech edge is no longer viable)....
I could’ve sworn you did this video before and no I don’t think I’m thinking of the Soviet moon base video.
Where can one find out how Von Braun broke his arm thats in alot of video clips?
Search "Von Braun broke his arm". Lots of sources including wikipedia.
"While on an official trip in March (1945), von Braun suffered a complicated fracture of his left arm and shoulder in a car accident after his driver fell asleep at the wheel. His injuries were serious, but he insisted that his arm be set in a cast so he could leave the hospital. Due to this neglect of the injury he had to be hospitalized again a month later where his bones had to be rebroken and realigned"
@@Roland14d thanks for the info
Its a pity they cant use the ISS resupply modules to assemble a lab in space and just land it on the moon.
First of all ISS modules are only made for staying in low earth orbit those iss modules cannot be landed on moon brush
Great video. Thank you.
Good stuff, folks! Thanks.
Of course creating a moon base is possible. The question is how much and how fast.
And how do you keep the occupants from going mad, or from the effects of low gravity, radiation, etc.?
LOL It's definitely NOT possible.
@@skipknot7389 Oh, can you give a reason why you think that.
@@skipknot7389 it has been over a year and he still hasn't though of a reason
MINES ON THE MOON? that's paranoia for you right there..
Yes. I do think it would have been possible. I think the safety and usefulness would have been questionable, but I think if they had wanted it badly enough, it could have happened.
Yes I think it would be possible to put a base on the moon back in the '70s and '80s and now I think they're taking too long to get off the ground with Artemis 1.
Correction: the first man made object to go into space was a manhole cover. Look it up.
20 year ago I had a super vivid dream about an American base on the moon .this one was built into the side of a mountain
Would a Davey Crockett explosion be visible from Earth?
Another great video
Long time since I chose to watch one of the videos on this channel. The research is still excellent and the editing is good, but the sped-up voice (about 20%!) is still very annoying! I just don't understand why this ridiculous method is used. I've seen this done on only a few other RUclips videos... and it wasn't nearly as bad (not sped-up as much). But it still was noticeable and annoying. But on this channel, it's just unwatchable. Of course, reducing the playback speed to 0.85 brings the speech back to a normal pace, but creates artifacts that are as annoying if not more. So it looks like I'll come back to the channel in another year and see if someone has finally come to their senses... Cheers!
I know what you mean. Im glad it doesn't bug me like this but yeah.. srsly. Heck, ive seen him get Obvious Fact *WRONG* on SO many occassions. things that would take a few seconds each to fact check even.
I swear we still live in the Fallout from the 80s. heck we still got 80s corporate law governing the rights & speech of our citizens. most of these laws make NO sense in the Modern dark-age of information. they were forged for a time when the Air-waves were controlled by multi-conglomerates...
The fact they planned to stay on the moon in the 60s just tells us that , we are already on other planets and have been for awhile
Great video.
'66, '67 !!! Hell, I thought we didn't land on the moon until 1969 ! Where did this project figure on such early outcomes, when we didn't have the spacecraft yet to get there ?
I bet we can cure cancer in 10 years, 15 tops!
Apollo took a significant slow-down after the Apollo 1 fire. Without the fire, and if you skimped on flights to validate the safety of the concept and got lucky, 66' would have been on the boundaries of a plausible landing date.
There was no way any power on earth could manufacture the 120 plus Saturn 5 boosters to establish this base.
It would appear that we will never learn. We COULD have done this back then, but instead we spent our fortune in Vietnam. Then we COULD have done it, but we spent another fortune in the Mid-East over the last many dozens of years, sending bullets and bombs. Now it would be nice to do it, but for whatever reason, we would rather be the enemy of Russia, whom we once worked with on our exploratory missions such as Skylab and the space station. War seems to always be more important. Perhaps a first step would be Term Limits for all our politicians.
Thank you.
Great video
I've always said if the governments of the world could actually work together we'ld be there already and further...maybe someday.
One world government sounds appealing to you then?
LOL Leaps in Technological Advancement comes from competition, not cooperation/collaboration.
Not too much in the way of cooperation right now between the US and Russia.
Don't you mean Russia and the world 😂
i can't believe the army was like "we have to defend our moon base with space claymores and davy crocket anti tank weapons"
when a bow and arrow or a slingshot would totally wreck an astronaut's suit
👽👽👽 What are the odds of this list...
1972 last moon landing
1972 Von Braun left NASA
1972 Space force
1972 Space Shuttle
1972 Last full off world pic of earth
1972 Harry Truman died. he signed off on the operation paperclip
1972 CJ Phillips became head of NSA, also created by Harry Truman
Phillips was the director of NASA first moon landing.
What are the odds???
And this 1972 list is massive; in fact, it's everything.
if anyone who sees this, and wonders what would happen if Ussr won all the space race, watch the series called "For All Mankind". Kind of the Drama-esque thing, but it should be one of the most accurate things that could have happened.
thank you .
Fun fact, we do have a 🌚 base. When you dig deep and find the dotted clues, draw the line.
Here’s a thought for everyone to explore as a prerequisite. Remember the camouflage plane technology that was being developed by DARPA and in around Area 51 some 20 years ago? I wonder what ever came of that.
Another question to explore, after the consolidation of the industrial complex, why were engineers that built aircraft carriers sent to Antarctica? 🤔
Please go more into detail and briefly explain your reasoning as I would like to check the conclusion I came to regarding the engineers sent to Antarctica In comparison to yours. 😉
What does the international space station do about shooting star type meteorites traveling between 20 to 160 thousand mph?????
There is nothing like competition and desperation, to advance technology. And Oh - a lot of money.
It was and still is possible.
Are we going to get some new content soon?
6:50 they had the right idea! Project Artimus better end up doing the same or I predict they'll end up losing lives and property.
How did we miss 100 Saturn missle launches from public view? Where?
To build a moon base...Is there a 7-11?
Crying shame we needed to recruit Von Braun to get us to space and develop increasingly dangerous conditions for all on earth considering what his V2s did to the British, especially in London.
I'd like to hear more about the recoiless nuclear rocket launcher lol
Because of contemporary geopolitics I'm not going to mention what has been declassified, though it's safe to say the race is on to take America politically because of something successful she has technologically.
Not only is it possible, its been done!
I suppose you never know where things could go. I'm sure these guys never imagined that their project would be cancelled.
if they did this, we now already had a moonbase, we now already have a sustainable enviroment within a moonbase, we had then a better succesrate for a mars base
Do you really talk this fast or did you speed it up a bit? Just curious
It a fine facility been there many times.
Bleep bloop bleep bleep
Man, the cold war was a school yard scrap compared to the state of the current world.
Russia, Ukraine, North Korea, Taiwan, China, The Coof, Climate disaster, Fuel scarcity, Boiling oceans, Melting Ice Caps!
It was nice knowing you Dark aha!
The Cuban Missile Crisis was hardly a school yard scrap though.
@@Critical-Thinker895 yeah, that's why Havana is asking for it again in 2022. Both sides in the Kennedy era were looking for guarantees. Putin is trying to re-instate a completely dead ideology (Socialism).
He's believed to be hiding in a bunker with a bottle of copium shoved up his hole according to Ukraine.
BS.
Lol what world are you living in. Jesus
Of Socialism is dead then why is the U.S. a socialist oligarchy?
It's got to make money, it's got to make financial sense
I should hope that if it serves as any kind of deterrent, that would be against relying on the military for predictions about the future…
_Mom… If you don’t buy me a super-sonic atomic bionic moon base kit… all hell’s gonna break loose!_
Project Orion ftw
It should have been done!. Government should have cut funding and stop the Vietnam war and focus on Research and Development.
yes its possible, but its a matter of having the will to do it
If Project Horizon were of critical importance and we didn't build it for 60 years so far, I guess it wasn't that critical.