Jordan Peterson Part 2 | What Is a Public Intellectual?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • A deep dive into the concept of the public intellectual and hopefully an answer to the question, what is Jordan Peterson doing?
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  • @WereInHell
    @WereInHell  3 года назад +712

    Disclaimer I’m leaving here for any pissed off Jordan Peterson fans: I try to respond to good faith criticisms when I find the time but if you’re unfamiliar with my channel I usually take a topic or person I find funny/weird/bad and use that as a jumping off point to talk about something else. The bulk of this video is about interrogating the idea of public intellectuals. I didn’t want to make a 2 hour video and so lots of my specific criticisms of Jordan Peterson are somewhat simplified. Feel free to still leave a comment if you’d like but understand that I chose not to talk in depth about things like Bill C-16 because that’s not what this video’s about. If surface level critiques of JBP upset you you can just skip to 15:33 to get to the meat of my argument. Don’t forget to own the libs by liking, commenting, subscribing, and becoming a patron.

    • @jospinner1183
      @jospinner1183 3 года назад +117

      You gotta pin this. Jordan Peterson fans won't be scrolling this far down in the comments. They don't like doing that much reading.

    • @WereInHell
      @WereInHell  3 года назад +62

      @@jospinner1183 lol oops, thought I already had

    • @Pensive_Scarlet
      @Pensive_Scarlet 3 года назад +29

      @@WereInHell You know, around the time he first rose to prominence, I was playing with this weird idea that people with crowded bottom teeth are more likely to be dealing with a lot of internal stress, anxiety, and eventually madness. I'm not one of those "teeth judging" types at all, I just happen to have insane bottom row crowding that keeps getting worse. So, I'm saying all this to you because of your interest in conspiracy theories, and I'd like some sort of rating on the insanity of my notion, if you have the time.

    • @doctaflo
      @doctaflo 3 года назад +12

      @@WereInHell, is there a link to JBP Part 1 in the Description somewhere?

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel 3 года назад +30

      We have a similar professor in biological faculty in Saint Petersburg state university, where I study and work - very charismatic and popular, lectures are interesting, but he has very troubling ideas, in a way his ideas are very similar to Peterson, maybe he even watched the latter's videos - I would not be surprised. Now when I analyse what that professor said when I was an undergrad and attended his lectures, I realize he totally is a sexist, racist, homophobic reactionary POS, his interesting manner of presentation just blinds the students so much. Although I didn't like him even back then, cause I was already childfree, and he constantly said stupid bingo nonsense about how everyone should breed

  • @weareallbornmad410
    @weareallbornmad410 3 года назад +1580

    "Poverty has a lot of causes... for example, a lack of money." An intellectual take indeed.

    • @lilithhedwig5408
      @lilithhedwig5408 3 года назад +55

      "for example"

    • @SteinCodes
      @SteinCodes 3 года назад +53

      Well... it maybe a "sudden lack of money", could be an "unanticipated lack of money" or just a "considerable lack of money", such a profound take...
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      /sarcasm

    • @theocean1973
      @theocean1973 2 года назад +35

      I immediately saw how stupid that was: Lack of money isn't the cause of poverty, it's the definition. Peterson has a severe sophistry problem while passing himself off as a refined intellect and making obscene amounts of money for it.

    • @jg-zz2se
      @jg-zz2se Год назад +3

      who'd have thought? what an intellectual genius.

    • @mikaameesh
      @mikaameesh Год назад +9

      i read that as 'poetry has a lot of causes' and honestly, yeah

  • @hannahkat9722
    @hannahkat9722 3 года назад +963

    "lesbian in her sexual preference" is how I'm going to start introducing myself

    • @randjan8592
      @randjan8592 3 года назад +18

      in 3rd person?

    • @Rob.S-
      @Rob.S- 3 года назад +1

      You are BRILLIANT! I love it.

    • @jasonfenton8250
      @jasonfenton8250 3 года назад +95

      Pious in the streets
      Lesbian in her sexual preference in the sheets

    • @joeymac4302
      @joeymac4302 3 года назад +60

      So Peterson's critique isn't that he doesn't like lesbians, it's that he feels they should only be represented in positions of power proportionally to their population density? A lesbian shouldn't be able to organize well enough to get a position of power because they represent less than 4% of the population or something? At least that's the excuse he's hiding behind?

    • @busylivingnotdying
      @busylivingnotdying 3 года назад +87

      @@joeymac4302 Yeah it seems that way.
      And underneath it he seem to be having as a premise that people from minority groups cannot think outside of their narrow group-interests, but HIS group of intellectuals don't represent ANY particular interests, just pure objectivity .... so that's nice, I guess :)
      .. It must be "nice" to be so full of yourself! ;(

  • @goldbondisgod
    @goldbondisgod 3 года назад +1761

    He had a strong muppet voice that women couldn’t understand and men adored

    • @phangkuanhoong7967
      @phangkuanhoong7967 3 года назад +78

      i'm a cishet man. his muppet voice annoys me to no end. also, he's virtually unknown in Asia.

    • @FreyaEinde
      @FreyaEinde 3 года назад +38

      If ever two souls could hi-five through the internet I believe we have.

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv 3 года назад +12

      @Lucien Hicks It's well above that now, so you can come back and like it.

    • @stupidass69420
      @stupidass69420 3 года назад +59

      As a nonbinary person his muppet voice does not make me understand nor make me confused
      it makes me angry

    • @mattgopack7395
      @mattgopack7395 3 года назад +34

      For some reason, I can't stop trying to make it fit the tune of Rasputin
      He had a muppet voice that women didn't understand
      But in western men he found such adoring fans?

  • @Tom_Nicholas
    @Tom_Nicholas 3 года назад +1899

    As someone from South West England, it's Peterson's hatred of cider which offends me most.

    • @theo-so1tr
      @theo-so1tr 3 года назад +45

      Unfortunately it pairs poorly with beef. Who knew?

    • @grumblyarcher
      @grumblyarcher 3 года назад +6

      That monster

    • @MrKaneShadow
      @MrKaneShadow 3 года назад +50

      this anti-cider hate speech and fear mongering will not stand

    • @adrenalinevan
      @adrenalinevan 3 года назад +32

      What makes it worse is that he probably meant non-alcoholic cider

    • @HeavenlyEchoVirus
      @HeavenlyEchoVirus 3 года назад +16

      I assumed he meant apple cider vinegar that he was chugging.

  • @mjf8897
    @mjf8897 3 года назад +731

    I was once told "you seem like a guy that listens to Jordan Peterson"
    I've never felt more insulted in my life

    • @an8strengthkobold360
      @an8strengthkobold360 3 года назад +59

      Real slap to the face.

    • @mjf8897
      @mjf8897 3 года назад +31

      @@an8strengthkobold360 I think about this often...

    • @acciousername6776
      @acciousername6776 3 года назад +22

      F 😔

    • @chase_saddy
      @chase_saddy 3 года назад +26

      I have been told that in a less direct fashion too. It also has seriously made me rethink how I go about things.

    • @DiAn-ud8dy
      @DiAn-ud8dy 2 года назад +4

      @@mjf8897 maybe was kinda like a compliment for a n30 n4z1

  • @littlestone1541
    @littlestone1541 3 года назад +850

    That time Peterson just hand-waved away an entire ideology with "I read the communist manifesto". If a student tried to pull that one on their professor...

    • @rasputozen
      @rasputozen 3 года назад +175

      I think what made Peterson appealing to so many young men on the internet is that he's like an internet troll come to life. Shapiro has the same appeal. These are characters with little interest in integrity, finding the right answer, or coming to a common understanding whether it benefits them in the short-term or not, but to win at any cost. And why wouldn't this strategy make them thought-leaders and propel them into stardom? That behavior is exactly what our infrastructure selects for. It's capitalism applied to human interaction itself.

    • @MrCurbinator
      @MrCurbinator 3 года назад +4

      I did, because that professor made me. It sucked

    • @OntologicalCatastrophe
      @OntologicalCatastrophe 3 года назад +6

      @@rasputozen dude, how the hell where you able to come up with all that bullshit without having any idea what you are talking about is beyond me. Peterson view has always been clear and concrete, he never changed his position to benefit him in a debate and has been most respectful to his opponents each time. It is why someone like him could get a long with Zizek, who is on the complete opposite political spectrum. I don't know how people like you can so shamelessly make up opponents in your minds.

    • @AnastaciaInCleveland
      @AnastaciaInCleveland 3 года назад +107

      @@OntologicalCatastrophe Maybe Peterson doesn't change positions to win a debate, be he sure as hell does some underhanded things. For example, his debate with Matt Dillahunty. When Dillahunty asked him if he was a Christian, Peterson wanted to change the definition of Christian before he answered the question! Then, he connects an outrageous, indefensible idea with a more reasonable one so that if he is called out on the outrageous idea, he can defend the more reasonable one instead and look like he won that point. It's called the "Motte and Bailey" fallacy. There is also some circular logic going on. Peterson made the statement, I believe with Dillahunty, that Atheists cannot be artists because all art is inspired by religion. Dillahunty replied that he knew Atheist artists, and Peterson responded with (to paraphrase), "They must not be Atheists, then!". I have heard Peterson say " Gotcha!" in a debate which is just childish. He utilizes "word salads" as a defense, too. I don't think that Peterson enters into debates in good faith, and watching him in a debate is like experiencing fingernails on a chalkboard. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland

    • @peterm1240
      @peterm1240 3 года назад +1

      @@AnastaciaInCleveland I wouldn't call answering a religious question underhanded. One answers how one answers. It's fucking religion, you know? Mostly a product of pure imagination. Can this possibly be news to you?

  • @minoyd
    @minoyd 3 года назад +1718

    Big Joel's evil twin back with another banger

    • @lkeke35
      @lkeke35 3 года назад +41

      Omg! This was my first thought, too!

    • @laughingseal2282
      @laughingseal2282 3 года назад +28

      He looks like Brian Gilbert

    • @TomSmith-hu9eh
      @TomSmith-hu9eh 3 года назад +23

      I like the comparison, it delights me.

    • @Miss_Darko
      @Miss_Darko 3 года назад +67

      We all know Big Joel is the evil twin whose career of dastardly villainy is unmatched

    • @patrickgallagher1161
      @patrickgallagher1161 3 года назад +38

      @@Miss_Darko We all know Big Joel is capable of ending the world single-handedly.

  • @lisasweeney9676
    @lisasweeney9676 3 года назад +301

    He is exactly the type of professor I’d have thought was amazing in my first year of university. By year 2 I’d have got off the bandwagon.
    I know this as I had one such professor. He took my rejection of his classes ( I didn’t take any) personally. He invited me to his study, we talked, I tried to lie my way out “ oh no I just had conflicts,/ want to do other classes.”
    I lied , and so he offered to moved his class that I was to ‘ absolutely’ take. He spent sometime pitching his classes over the ones I’d chosen.
    I crumpled, “ I’m very sorry but I find you a touch too eccentric for me. I have issues concentrating, and as this is about next year, I really don’t want to fail.”
    “ interesting that you would lie to save my feelings. I am here to help all students but you are not special. You mean nothing to me. You can leave.”
    Me “ ok cool. “
    Him “ leave my office “
    Utter twat.

    • @sperry8399
      @sperry8399 2 года назад +39

      wow- i am so sorry this happened to you - it is rough for femme folx at unis

    • @NutyRiver
      @NutyRiver 2 года назад +50

      I’m sorry that happened to you, but perhaps its a sign that you have a good judge of character! You really dodged a bullet on that one.

    • @Hands2HealNow
      @Hands2HealNow Год назад +1

      Projecting your experience with a narcissist has nothing to actually do with a real person you have never met nor have you ever known anyone who has considered using the tools he has developed.

    • @justine4581
      @justine4581 Год назад +20

      ​@@Hands2HealNow 🤡

    • @jamesrmorris1952
      @jamesrmorris1952 Год назад

      That wasn't Jordan you know

  • @benjaminplatten275
    @benjaminplatten275 3 года назад +671

    "The LGBT community has become very good at organizing themselves." Babe, we can barely organize brunch.

    • @typosinthebrain5363
      @typosinthebrain5363 2 года назад +2

      @edgar allan hoe no.. It's LGBT

    • @typosinthebrain5363
      @typosinthebrain5363 2 года назад

      @edgar allan hoe Ah.. okay xD sorry

    • @TigerShark_With_thigh_in_mouth
      @TigerShark_With_thigh_in_mouth Год назад +1

      I believe his point was that some points of the policies were set in place because of people under her pandered to her sexuality for their own person gain as opposed to the actual support and betterment of the LGTB.

    • @sebastianrubin7476
      @sebastianrubin7476 11 месяцев назад +11

      Also, saying that as though it's somehow a threat - as though any minority getting organised and pushing legislation to protect themselves was a _bad thing_ - is not so much funny as it is disturbing.

    • @50iraqidinar
      @50iraqidinar 6 месяцев назад +1

      You know who's *actually* really good at organizing themselves? Jordan Peterson's exact demographic.

  • @CassEris
    @CassEris 3 года назад +459

    Peterson pizza party permanently parked at Order City. Only flavor is the crusty crustacean with tyrannical tea.

    • @STIR-FRIED-SUBWAY-RAT
      @STIR-FRIED-SUBWAY-RAT 3 года назад +29

      Hi just wanna say I loved your series going thru "12 Rules For Life" ok have a nice a day!!

    • @sarapocorn
      @sarapocorn 3 года назад +13

      @@STIR-FRIED-SUBWAY-RAT there will be more now on her channel. Make sure to go check it out!

    • @HistoricaHungarica
      @HistoricaHungarica 3 года назад +12

      The alliterations!
      Not just a psych but a bard as well!

    • @theelectricant98
      @theelectricant98 3 года назад +10

      your videos are so good!

    • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
      @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 3 года назад +9

      You're the best Cass!

  • @MightyChoctaw
    @MightyChoctaw 3 года назад +421

    I never took JBP seriously until I saw that clip of him in a fedora doing incel stand-up.

    • @thissatori
      @thissatori 3 года назад +36

      This is the best sentence I have read in 2021.

    • @nob2243
      @nob2243 3 года назад +13

      And after that, I assume that you still didn't take him seriously?

    • @mookinbabysealfurmittens
      @mookinbabysealfurmittens 3 года назад +2

      His musical bit at the end of this video was pretty good, actually. Hahaha it's playing rn and it's so bang-on!

  • @lilrhia
    @lilrhia 3 года назад +266

    Peterson: I'm not a bigot.
    Everyone: ok, then what do you think is really wrong with the government?
    Peterson: The premier is a lesbian.

    • @raphaelmt1706
      @raphaelmt1706 2 года назад +27

      Also the trans community have become good at organizing. That's definitely not something that should be allowed for marginalized groups.

  • @jobeiden
    @jobeiden 3 года назад +397

    the phrase "licking his chops" in relation jordan peterson makes me want to slam my head against a wall thanks

    • @jamieparry6420
      @jamieparry6420 3 года назад +24

      I had to buy a new phone to finish the video after throwing mine into the sun.

    • @Trepidateousflesh
      @Trepidateousflesh 3 года назад +9

      Licking his chops.
      He said Licking his chops.

  • @TheDeekins
    @TheDeekins 3 года назад +266

    dude you can't just stick a banger song like that at the end it really screws over those of us that rush to comment ASAP but also prefer to only comment once. Some of your best work, very well done.

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv 3 года назад +5

      Mass comments is mass interaction which is good for entergagement and video promotion.

    • @gillsmoke
      @gillsmoke 3 года назад +19

      I need the soundcloud link for that to pass to my family

    • @QvsTheWorld
      @QvsTheWorld 3 года назад +8

      I never knew how much I needed this song before hearing it.

    • @yellow5218
      @yellow5218 3 года назад +2

      I want to know the first song at the beginning of the video. :(( can't find it anywhere and my phone doesn't know either.

    • @salj.5459
      @salj.5459 3 года назад +1

      Yel low Me too bud, me too

  • @riotdancesquadleader1047
    @riotdancesquadleader1047 3 года назад +849

    Jordan Peterson realizing that Capital is 1000 pages long: “ahem I bravely read the communist manifesto”

    • @coaldoubt2879
      @coaldoubt2879 3 года назад +87

      He read the blurb on the back of the communist manifesto.

    • @sofia.eris.bauhaus
      @sofia.eris.bauhaus 3 года назад +26

      to be fair, Das Kapital is also absurdly badly written.

    • @coaldoubt2879
      @coaldoubt2879 3 года назад +8

      @@sofia.eris.bauhaus what did you expect?

    • @sofia.eris.bauhaus
      @sofia.eris.bauhaus 3 года назад +22

      @@coaldoubt2879 well, the economists i read all see to take care to to write clearly and precisely what they mean. yet Marx, attempts to refute much of classical economics in this absolutely nauseating style. it's been a while since i last tried to read it so and i guess it's hard to describe what's so bad about it, but damn. maybe it's a thing he got from Hegel? i dunno.

    • @coaldoubt2879
      @coaldoubt2879 3 года назад +3

      @@sofia.eris.bauhaus Fair enough.
      Can you read German?

  • @hollandscottthomas
    @hollandscottthomas 3 года назад +279

    I've never understood why JP stans don't refer to the lobster man as their Crawdad.
    Feels like a wasted opportunity.

    • @tseng9
      @tseng9 3 года назад +40

      Doesn't that require a sincere sense of self awareness?

    • @jospinner1183
      @jospinner1183 3 года назад +34

      *Crawdaddy

    • @lilithhedwig5408
      @lilithhedwig5408 3 года назад +9

      They hate fun is the reason

    • @Samuel_Morchin
      @Samuel_Morchin 2 года назад +7

      That is glorious. Crawdad. Perfect. Damn, I wish I came up with that!

  • @satyasyasatyasya5746
    @satyasyasatyasya5746 3 года назад +410

    *What public intellectuals are:* I'M SO SMART! PAY ME! LISTEN TO ME! BUY MY STUFF! DON'T LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN OF MY SUSPICIOUSLY SIMPLISTIC HOTTAKES! WORSHIP ME! THINK LIKE ME!
    *What public intellectuals should be:* You can be smart too. Knowledge belongs to everyone and should be presented as cheaply and shared as often, as possible. Listen to eachother. Don't get ripped-off and here's some redflags to go by. Sure, you can look behind the curtain and you'll find someone just like you and you know what, that's ok. Never have heroes. Think for yourself.

    • @pedroooou
      @pedroooou 3 года назад +20

      There's a definition for the way you described your second version of public intellectuals: It's the Organic Intellectual, also by Gramsci

    • @mdaddy775
      @mdaddy775 3 года назад +18

      YES! And they shouldn't have tantrums whenever an interviewer challenges them.....Jordan

    • @Dachusblot
      @Dachusblot 3 года назад +20

      For some reason your second example reminded me of Ratatouille. "Anyone can cook!"

    • @pedroooou
      @pedroooou 3 года назад +7

      @@Dachusblot HAHAHAHAHA you've got a good point

    • @satyasyasatyasya5746
      @satyasyasatyasya5746 3 года назад +5

      @@Dachusblot I do like the critics speech at the end :D

  • @thefrantasticmissfine
    @thefrantasticmissfine 3 года назад +578

    "For anyone who hasn't heard of Jordan Peterson... just go, it's not too late for you."

    • @migatocomeoscuridad
      @migatocomeoscuridad 3 года назад +9

      I disagree, whether he is a bad person in your eyes or not, it can still be useful to check people's ideas, I think Jordan Peterson is a great teacher and he has studied a lot.

    • @stromagedon
      @stromagedon 3 года назад +50

      @@migatocomeoscuridad I don't listen whiskey brands

    • @migatocomeoscuridad
      @migatocomeoscuridad 3 года назад +3

      @Smashed Potatoes have you given a chance to read/listen to him? I know its hard to let go of strong opinions sometimes because I'm like that too, but take your time to research and you get way more information that might change your mind.

    • @jacencade4019
      @jacencade4019 3 года назад +31

      @@migatocomeoscuridad he has no idea what he's talking about and got fired for being a bully and egocentric jackass

    • @jacencade4019
      @jacencade4019 3 года назад +21

      @@migatocomeoscuridad yes. He is an opinionated science denying ass

  • @RomanBearProductions
    @RomanBearProductions 3 года назад +149

    Can' wait to watch the Snyder Cut adaptation of Peterson's inevitable 48 Rules for life: a 12 Part series. I for one am excited to see the Feminine Chaos Dragon portrayed on the big screen.

  • @rachelsimpson8443
    @rachelsimpson8443 3 года назад +271

    I know we say he's the dark Big Joel, but have you considered that he's kind of like an alternate reality where Kurtis Connor and Big Joel are one person?

  • @30secondsflat
    @30secondsflat 3 года назад +257

    I was a student in two of JBP’s classes in U of T in the days before social media. He always had a self-serious charisma in those days, although even then you could kind of question a lot of his ideological preferences (e.g. his believe in the superiority of British culture , which is an odd thing to just put out there in a psychology class)...I’m convinced Twitter destroyed him and helped him indulge in the worst aspects of his need to position himself as and early 21st century messiah sent to save Western civilization.

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 3 года назад +27

      You were a student of his? My condolences.

    • @historymarshal2704
      @historymarshal2704 2 года назад +6

      Thankfully, he's now leaving Twitter. Good riddance.

    • @jannetteberends8730
      @jannetteberends8730 Год назад +2

      So he is not a scientist? A clinical psychologist who thinks a certain culture is superior certainly isn’t.
      I suppose he was not able to explain what part of British culture is so superior? Probably not the British people who think the best night out is drinking until fading in unconsciousness. 😂 (a real problem in several European cities)

    • @Hands2HealNow
      @Hands2HealNow Год назад

      Interesting how little credit is given to a man who has wider appeal to individual rights activists and individuals in general than any other modern psychology professor.

    • @Vickynger
      @Vickynger 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@Hands2HealNow well why would he deserve credit for that? having a wide appeal is not the same as having merit

  • @ryanwhitfield100
    @ryanwhitfield100 3 года назад +215

    The song is now forever etched into my soul. Imma be 50 takin out the trash singing "one day we'll find them, the cultural marxists"

    • @leahmontgo
      @leahmontgo 3 года назад +14

      I have in fact rewatched the credits about 6 times because its such a bop

    • @oldUmanUshea
      @oldUmanUshea 3 года назад +11

      48:34 for the lazy.

    • @ryanwhitfield100
      @ryanwhitfield100 3 года назад +4

      @@oldUmanUshea the truth is the actual lazy person is me. I was gunna tag it then I didn't.

    • @ariekanibalie
      @ariekanibalie 3 года назад

      Is it anywhere online? I've tried googling it and already the YT algorithm is starting to suggest tinfoil hat bullshit in my feed.

    • @nyxskip
      @nyxskip 3 года назад +1

      @@ariekanibalie there's a link in the description

  • @SJKlapecki
    @SJKlapecki 3 года назад +90

    The intro legitimately hyped me the fuck up for this video, that alone was a masterclass in youtube editing.

    • @WereInHell
      @WereInHell  3 года назад +28

      All Vadim's work, what a king

    • @salj.5459
      @salj.5459 3 года назад +9

      We're In Hell What's the song?

    • @forevermarkel
      @forevermarkel 3 года назад +4

      @@WereInHell Yo that intro song slapped. Can you drop the deets in the thing below?

  • @professorskye
    @professorskye 3 года назад +178

    Great video. As a French professor, I really appreciate your take on L'Affaire Dreyfus. It should be required study for all people who are interested in societal division as it is the Big Bang of the culture wars. That said, the idea that de Beauvoir is not taken seriously is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overstated. She is an absolute giant and is respected as such by all intellectuals.

    • @oranjedrurgen8934
      @oranjedrurgen8934 3 года назад +10

      of all the places to possibly randomly see PROFESSOR SKYE MY FAV NEW MUSIC REVIEWER this is undoubtedly the best
      you also have great taste in video essays, who knew!

    • @Nocturnalux
      @Nocturnalux 2 года назад

      I first found about it when I read Proust in high school.

    • @JohnCran
      @JohnCran 2 года назад

      Ok so TISM rules still....

  • @ThoughtSlime
    @ThoughtSlime 3 года назад +303

    The G-man is not the villain of half-life.

    • @DesEagle122089
      @DesEagle122089 3 года назад +27

      Wake up Mr. *ribbit* Freeman.

    • @voidify3
      @voidify3 3 года назад +21

      that full stop just hottens the take so much

    • @FuckYourSelf99
      @FuckYourSelf99 3 года назад +3

      You fool! Did you not hear the Nihilanth try to explain?? Mind Piss is CANCELLED

    • @hanklestank
      @hanklestank 3 года назад +1

      @Yousif Kelaita
      Hahahaha fuck that was wonderful haha

    • @mikedx42
      @mikedx42 2 года назад +4

      As usual you've cut to the heart of the issue

  • @joeypeterson9198
    @joeypeterson9198 3 года назад +89

    “That sucks” - Kropotkin

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 года назад +1

      That's a good translation.

  • @TomSmith-hu9eh
    @TomSmith-hu9eh 3 года назад +124

    I find the joke about "a man dressed as a spider will drop a net on you" to be quite amusing. Very good then.

    • @vapidrabbit198
      @vapidrabbit198 3 года назад +1

      i'd like to write a short story about it, expanding on it.
      maybe the spider guy has a basement full of people tied up, hanging in nets.... he hooks them up to IVs and drains their blood daily.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 3 года назад

      it made me laugh a lot

    • @jdprettynails
      @jdprettynails 2 года назад +1

      It's literally just Batman.
      "Oh, you must really like bats..."
      "No. I'm terrified of them."

  • @blackbox8490
    @blackbox8490 3 года назад +63

    Implying he is really good with psychology. haha.
    Look, I don't have a phd in clinical psychology yet but I already can find flaws in his work.

    • @WereInHell
      @WereInHell  3 года назад +27

      For sure, Cass Eris’ videos are great at exposing that

    • @blackbox8490
      @blackbox8490 3 года назад +16

      @@WereInHell btw, I had a suspicion you studied sociology considering your work actually helped me get the general ideas for my sociology assignments.

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 2 года назад

      He has an extensive citation record and taught at two top universities.
      His primary area of research, personality via the Big 5, is accepted, mainstream science. It is literally the only accepted model of personality in all of psychology, not just psychometrics. He wasn't the main guy behind that model, but he had a big impact on it.

    • @makaiawarfield1028
      @makaiawarfield1028 2 года назад

      @@immanuelcunt7296 Freud had a big impact on psychology/psychological methods and theory too. You can be an 'expert' in a field and make significant contributions to it, and still have... let's say 'shortcomings' where those expertise and contributions are concerned. Puts me in mind of the 'stopped clock' proverb.
      I love your username btw.

  • @jackgude3969
    @jackgude3969 3 года назад +137

    You had me at “incestuous lobster kinkplay”

  • @quarts_i_guess
    @quarts_i_guess 3 года назад +163

    This just got recommended to me, and I've never seen you before, but I'm liking it.

    • @someone-js6pg
      @someone-js6pg 3 года назад +21

      you've just found a gold mine(or an oil mine in case your from the middle east)

    • @dijo7n983
      @dijo7n983 3 года назад +8

      it's a good channel

  • @jessehenderson2967
    @jessehenderson2967 3 года назад +148

    Those dislikes are gonna be coming in hot in the morning when the JP bois wake up early to make their beds and eat their MEAT!

    • @fromthefire4176
      @fromthefire4176 3 года назад +3

      LOL

    • @chrizbrazazaki8790
      @chrizbrazazaki8790 3 года назад +6

      *and cleaned their rooms

    • @jospinner1183
      @jospinner1183 3 года назад +8

      @Sam Aden Is cleaning after themselves something that JP dudebros are into now? I though they were all about having women do that stuff because women are "evolutionarily" more suited to domestic tasks?

  • @evedangerfield3476
    @evedangerfield3476 3 года назад +69

    “Alternative sense-making collective”
    AKA
    Hugbox of edgelords subdermally begging their fathers to stop drinking and attend their school open days.
    Yeah, I need that in my life.

    • @Zahaqiel
      @Zahaqiel 3 года назад +5

      But wait, aren't collectives _post-modern Marxism?!_

    • @jospinner1183
      @jospinner1183 3 года назад +2

      @Dr. Jordan Peterson Thanks, Dr. Peterson. It's good to know that God wants me to use WhatsApp.

  • @burtgrabmore2972
    @burtgrabmore2972 3 года назад +40

    Addiction may very well be an illness not a personal failure, but Peterson doesn't think so.

    • @kekedarius
      @kekedarius 3 года назад

      Why do you say that? I never got the sense that Peterson rallied against addicts

    • @burtgrabmore2972
      @burtgrabmore2972 3 года назад +16

      @@kekedarius You don't remember how he triumphantly ejected an old friend who came to visit because he was with a guy who Peterson says was "stoned".
      It's all over his work.

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 2 года назад

      @@burtgrabmore2972 Peterson told someone to leave his house because he was high (and possibly acting poorly as a result).
      How the hell does that imply that he doesn't have sympathy for addicts? He did his PhD thesis on the psychological markers for the predisposition towards alcohol for fuck's sake. That's the opposite of calling addiction a personal failure. A big part of his audience are addicts and former addicts, and he gives direct advice to people in that situation.
      Of all the criticism you could levy at him, that one is absolutely the dumbest. Plus, he had a physical dependency, not a psychological dependency, which is what we usually call addiction.

  • @Sorenzo
    @Sorenzo 3 года назад +61

    "It seems obvious that poor people lack money - but actually they lack education and social stability, so it's OK that we deprive them of money, because we presuppose that losers should suffer. Anyone who believes otherwise is being ideological."

  • @The2012Aceman
    @The2012Aceman 3 года назад +27

    I absolutely love your style. You combine the elements of being personable and relatable with the a confident analytical approach that really drives your points home. Your style is more palms open, as opposed to fist closed, and I wish more people acted in this way.

  • @NeverL8Kate
    @NeverL8Kate 3 года назад +32

    I wrote an essay for my Human Rights Law seminar considering the merits of socialist-anarchism, so like a rational person my dad bought me the 12 Rules book as my university graduation present and I just thought of this video and laughed so hard

  • @picklechungus7445
    @picklechungus7445 3 года назад +63

    *Dislikes communism
    *fills house with Soviet propaganda
    That's like filling your house with Nazi propaganda because you're the grown up version of the kid that was obsessed with WWII in middle school

    • @capheind
      @capheind 2 года назад +5

      Whoa grandpa was a HUGE wolfenstein nerd....

  • @toothpastehombre
    @toothpastehombre 3 года назад +85

    I like the idea of an alternate reality where Jim Henson was born in Lenin era Russian Empire. Bolshevik Street has a nice ring to to it...

    • @stupidass69420
      @stupidass69420 3 года назад +4

      Marxist Sesame Street.
      NOW.

    • @HistoricaHungarica
      @HistoricaHungarica 3 года назад +3

      Big Bird would be Stalin’s Mustache.

    • @nr9131
      @nr9131 3 года назад

      Train muppet!!!!

    • @sint0xicateme
      @sint0xicateme 3 года назад +1

      Yes!

    • @Takkiebos
      @Takkiebos 3 года назад

      @@stupidass69420 Isn't that what Non Compete does?

  • @dissonanceparadiddle
    @dissonanceparadiddle 3 года назад +48

    I want to see kermit dressed in a suit and wig quoting jordan Peterson. Mostly the angry flailing

  • @guthrielinder2555
    @guthrielinder2555 3 года назад +46

    Why does unexpectedly hearing Mia's voice give me a massive burst of serotonin

    • @judithkim4050
      @judithkim4050 3 года назад +2

      I love her voice

    • @barry8ie
      @barry8ie 3 года назад +1

      It returns me to the Omegaverse, courtesy of Lindsey Ellis, lol.

  • @spikesmth
    @spikesmth 3 года назад +35

    That closing song brought a Cultural Marxist tear to my eye.

  • @ruthcrean2316
    @ruthcrean2316 3 года назад +32

    I loved too much about this video to list them all; the reading from Murakami, the image of JBP dressed as a spider, that opening song, that epic closing song, the stories of him lecturing...are all perfect packaging for an elegant argument against placing JBP on a media pedestal. I really enjoyed where you went with exploring the idea of a public intellectual, where that comes from, and how it manifests in contemporary media.

  • @kaitlynnp582
    @kaitlynnp582 3 года назад +40

    The credits song is killing me. Amazing

  • @weirdomermaid
    @weirdomermaid 3 года назад +96

    I tried to listen to one of his videos 4 years ago and he literally said NOTHING of substance but just talked in circles. I found it frustrating and I gave up on him quickly and I am glad because yikes.

    • @patrickgallagher1161
      @patrickgallagher1161 3 года назад +19

      Good for you, my friend! I also fell for and used to promote Peterson's grift but luckily I got out of it.

    • @weirdomermaid
      @weirdomermaid 3 года назад +17

      @@patrickgallagher1161 That shows growth friend! It takes a lot of work to be able to reverse course so feel proud you got out of it. It's not luck, just growth. :)

    • @migatocomeoscuridad
      @migatocomeoscuridad 3 года назад +4

      @@weirdomermaid I think Jordan Peterson is a very smart individual, like many old psychologists there is quite a few people that hate on him but don't give him much of a chance. I recommend checking out some of his youtube lectures they have very useful knowledge, but I understand if people prefer not to deal with him

    • @weirdomermaid
      @weirdomermaid 3 года назад +17

      @@migatocomeoscuridad Doesn't matter if he is smart. I can learn and listen to old psychologists who aren't in the "IDW" and who don't associate with neo-Nazis and alt-right trolls. Poisoned well analogy and all that. I also don't hate him as a human being. It's more about discernment and not wanting to support someone like Peterson.

    • @migatocomeoscuridad
      @migatocomeoscuridad 3 года назад +3

      @@weirdomermaid Fair enough, I just find that I learn a lot about myself when listening to him. Also not sure if I read correctly but I don't think JP associates with neo-Nazis you might have listened to the wrong people

  • @grmpEqweer
    @grmpEqweer 3 года назад +42

    ...A group of intellectuals is called a gaggle. A group of crows is called a murder. A group of leftists is called a quarrel.

  • @VayaKahvi
    @VayaKahvi 3 года назад +48

    My wish for Jordon Peterson is for him to get the treatment he needs for his problems and for him to become acutely aware that is is receiving more kindness than he's expressed for people in the same position.

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 2 года назад

      He's consistently expressed nothing but kindness and sympathy for people experiencing drug addiction.
      The fact that you implied that he was critical or dismissive towards addicts means you clearly know nothing about him.
      Plus, Peterson had a physical dependency, not a mental dependency, which is what we usually call addiction. A physical dependency is essentially a side-effect, it's not the intense craving and obsession that you're probably referring to.

    • @heavenly2k
      @heavenly2k 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@immanuelcunt7296 I don't think that's what the comment you replied to meant. He is categorically rude to many groups of people , yet a good portion of those same people would still advocate for him to treat his addiction and his schizophrenia (he has been diagnosed by two different healthcare professionals)

  • @rasputozen
    @rasputozen 3 года назад +38

    "Jordan Peterson hates apple cider so much he's probably going to start hanging pictures of it on his wall soon." xD

  • @admiraloverdone
    @admiraloverdone 2 года назад +5

    I had no idea this started as a quora post, but god does it make so much sense.

  • @MatthewKelseyBiggs
    @MatthewKelseyBiggs 3 года назад +17

    Came for the dunking on Jordan Peterson, stayed for the credits song.

  • @baosepher
    @baosepher 3 года назад +100

    I never really thought about his career as a professor but that goofy Pinocchio story is priceless

  • @noisemakerjoe
    @noisemakerjoe 3 года назад +12

    Pausing at 11:50 to note that H. R. Giger stated in the documentary Dark Star that he was most afraid of death, which is why he filled his house with skulls.

  • @enfercesttout
    @enfercesttout 3 года назад +17

    An intellectual is someone who engages with issues outside of his own field with some rigour, in service of a public conscience. Peterson lacks a public. He has consumers. He sells personal improvement.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 года назад +11

      And piggybacks far right wing ideology on it.

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 2 года назад

      @@grmpEqweer He's a moderate left winger. How the hell is he far right?

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 года назад

      @@immanuelcunt7296
      _Peterson_ is a left-winger?
      Edit: what's moderate about him?

    • @chebghobbi
      @chebghobbi Год назад +5

      ​@@immanuelcunt7296What planet are you on where Peterson is a moderate left winger? He's obsessed with justifying hierarchies, argues against anything even vaguely left wing, and works for Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire, for chrissakes.

  • @cashomnitrix
    @cashomnitrix 3 года назад +9

    Even in this video, it’s STILL amazing listening to Peterson speak so much....yet say so little.

  • @DontLookToTheSun
    @DontLookToTheSun 3 года назад +50

    this made my Day thank you -As a toronto poli sci girl I could never explain my fixation of hatred on this man but " You wanna go? is the exact energy I have for jordy boy

  • @davejacob5208
    @davejacob5208 3 года назад +22

    the problem is not having CERTAIN people with the role of being those we listen to and trust them more than others.
    the problem is that people don´t have the cognitive tools to listen and then look into the topic themselves INSTEAD of only listening and being convinced.

    • @davejacob5208
      @davejacob5208 2 года назад +1

      @FilthyDankWastemanFabuless I did not talk about myself, so dont blame me for supposedly portraying myself as cleverer than others, I did no such thing.
      And "of course x!" is no convincing argument for x.
      many people are not capable of understanding certain topics without MUCH effort and concentration. for most people, that is the case with maths.
      for many, it already starts with politics.
      and yes, being told to use stuff - you might describe it like that, but if someone is never told about the concepts like "confirmation bias" or "falsifiability", then they lack a cognitive tool, which, if they had it, could probably be enough for them to think for themselves "well, i SHOULD listen more to the opinions i have so far just regarded as obvious bs, because this might stem from my confirmation bias" (maybe not a perfect example, but i guess you get the idea)

  • @betweenthepanels9145
    @betweenthepanels9145 3 года назад +12

    Peterson has mocked addiction for years calling it a personal character defect. It’s at least a little funny that he failed to get clean without extremely drastic measures.

  • @heroyatsuzuki6131
    @heroyatsuzuki6131 3 года назад +17

    laughed outloud at 'someone dressed as a big spider will net you'

  • @Lorgramoth
    @Lorgramoth 3 года назад +41

    Everyone go support Cass Eris, she's great.

  • @danamahr3773
    @danamahr3773 3 года назад +18

    People like him give us philosophers a bad name. I need a barrel to hide in.

  • @yoissy
    @yoissy 3 года назад +28

    "I'm working on another video about him but I doubt it'll be ready for another month or two."
    Yeah, it was only a month or two. Also, really solid video.

  • @RadicalReviewer
    @RadicalReviewer 3 года назад +36

    Wait do I happen to be the dishwasher you are referring to?

    • @WereInHell
      @WereInHell  3 года назад +11

      Lmao I was thinking of a couple people but you’re one of them, yeah

  • @nikolademitri731
    @nikolademitri731 3 года назад +18

    If you don’t make that song at the end available for download I’ll never leave this depressive state I’m locked in. Do it, please! My life is in your hands.

  • @gillsmoke
    @gillsmoke 3 года назад +14

    "And to quote Peter Kropotkin, 'Thant sucks'"
    Perfect, thank you

    • @LT-zg9tz
      @LT-zg9tz 3 года назад +2

      @Dr. Jordan Peterson Thanks Dr. Peterson! Very insightful!

  • @khazermashkes2316
    @khazermashkes2316 3 года назад +17

    I love how you mention the need to listen to people with lived experience.

  • @longliverocknroll5
    @longliverocknroll5 3 года назад +33

    Outro song is a banger! (Also, video was pretty good too, I guess)

  • @smolknife
    @smolknife 3 года назад +58

    HELL YEAH AL GORE RHYTHM

    • @frufrujaben
      @frufrujaben 3 года назад +1

      i'm going to put that in a lock box

    • @ross4881
      @ross4881 3 года назад +4

      ***Aggressively jerks body to dial-up noise***

    • @KyleHohn
      @KyleHohn 3 года назад +4

      Al Gore’s Rhythm is impeccable

  • @adrenalinevan
    @adrenalinevan 3 года назад +12

    When you said that Peterson was unmatched in his redefinitions of reality to suit his worldview, and his sincere belief that his opinions were only the basic facts of reality unfiltered by philosophical overthinking, I could only think of Rand.

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 2 года назад

      Redefinitions of reality? Phenomenology is a pretty well-accepted view of reality.

  • @Tahoza
    @Tahoza 3 года назад +6

    I appreciate your correct use of "begging the question".

  • @BethDiane
    @BethDiane 2 года назад +5

    I once saw an article that said he spoke "in the deep voice of the father."
    And I'm going, "In what universe?"

  • @Boggythefroggy
    @Boggythefroggy 3 года назад +19

    When you mention Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir I can't help but think of Nier: Automata and I'm honestly not mad about it lmao..

  • @sad-qy7jz
    @sad-qy7jz 3 года назад +78

    OMG THE “THERES THE GREAT FATHER!!” PART HAD ME SENT.. like if it wasn’t for his horrible politics and bad faith attempts at science I feel like I wouldn’t even mind him.. like David Lynch’s little brother that did his best or something lol

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 2 года назад

      "Bad faith attempts at science".
      His citation record is pretty robust, and he taught at two top universities.

  • @Emiliapocalypse
    @Emiliapocalypse 3 года назад +37

    Love learning stuff from the best Frank Zappa impersonator on youtube 💕✌️

  • @abracadaverous
    @abracadaverous 3 года назад +44

    JP sounds like he's trying to think through a thick layer of mud

  • @praxillascucumbers7680
    @praxillascucumbers7680 3 года назад +16

    Between you and Shaun, this may go down as one of RUclips's most mentally expanding hour's for uploads.
    Gives me plenty to chew over while I'm cooking, tonight; thanks!

    • @jrose5870
      @jrose5870 3 года назад

      Zero books also put out a jbp video at the exact same time...

  • @forafewnightsout
    @forafewnightsout 3 года назад +6

    The song at the end of this video is so beyond perfect

  • @domsusefulstuff
    @domsusefulstuff 3 года назад +61

    Recognising your correct use of "begs the question" made me feel like a public intellectual. Also I like the way you say Hoouse.

    • @domsusefulstuff
      @domsusefulstuff 3 года назад +5

      Also, I think your conclusion and the questions you end up with are really important. Outstanding video and perspective, thanks.

  • @PeanutForBrains
    @PeanutForBrains 3 года назад +9

    Okay but whoever wrote that end credits song, I love you

  • @MasoTrumoi
    @MasoTrumoi 3 года назад +55

    Ah, you claim to be against capitalism, but you have purchased chinese puzzle boxes. I am now a public intellectual.

  • @MrKaneShadow
    @MrKaneShadow 3 года назад +30

    I've been hearing about the crushing stupidity of 12 Rules For Life for so long, and just learned now that it was all based on a Quora post, and it's kind of a relief. Like when you're in middle school and you realize that a teacher yelling at you actually has no real power. Like, he was never anything to take seriously to begin with.

  • @yeoldegunporn
    @yeoldegunporn 3 года назад +5

    listening to Peterson for 5 mins makes me roll my eyes. IDK how anyone not already in agreement with him can handle listening at all.

  • @nervousbreakdown711
    @nervousbreakdown711 3 года назад +28

    Real, genuine question: does Jordan Peterson know what “postmodern” means?

  • @ENigma-um8zw
    @ENigma-um8zw 3 года назад +27

    He’s a father figure to people who sadly do not know nor have experienced what a real one that loves and cares for you is truly like, which due to the nasty side of dangerous masculine toxicity (not that masculinity or any target itself is the source but that it’s corrosively toxicified the good virtues of any of those potential attributes) has been the cause of many bad or lacking fathers throughout the ages to begin with.

  • @dummyaccount.k
    @dummyaccount.k 3 года назад +7

    he gives me punished big joel vibes. big chaotic neutral vibes

  • @localgrandparent1007
    @localgrandparent1007 3 года назад +5

    The song at the end was worth the wait

  • @Leftistattheparty
    @Leftistattheparty 3 года назад +5

    This channel is kicking off so much and I am so fucking happy about it.

  • @TempoTronica
    @TempoTronica 3 года назад +62

    Just imagine crying because you can't legally harass someone anymore.

  • @paradactyl3729
    @paradactyl3729 3 года назад +18

    I remember seeing his very one sided "conversation" with Camille Paglia. The first thing to come to mind was, "Oh cool! Any Rand's right brain and Julius Evola's left brain together at last! "

  • @TheClayCoKid
    @TheClayCoKid 3 года назад +3

    This video freaked me out. I was checking out the cat statue in the background and there was an immediate close up as if I had requested it.

  • @biseragjurovska1998
    @biseragjurovska1998 3 года назад +7

    Happy you mentioned Cass Eris as she has an absolutely brilliant series on Jordan Peterson's book! She's starting a new series on his second book which I think people should check out as well, btw great vid

  • @Shield-Theyden
    @Shield-Theyden 3 года назад +12

    That end credits song. Bravo!

  • @colgan693
    @colgan693 3 года назад +5

    Listening to Mia reading those quotes from his book feels like a fever dream

  • @mikebaker2436
    @mikebaker2436 2 года назад +4

    10:20 Addiction is an illness not a personal failure, but believing you can lecture the world on how to successfully live life when you yourself haven't mastered it is absolutely a character flaw that should be mocked.

  • @Gaawachan
    @Gaawachan 3 года назад +4

    The song at the end is pure gold

  • @phangkuanhoong7967
    @phangkuanhoong7967 3 года назад +12

    AT LONG LAST. PART 2. Previous episode for lobster daddy, this channel was still a Black Goat.

  • @JordanSullivanadventures
    @JordanSullivanadventures 3 года назад +5

    how tf did Peterson get a room full of applause for cutting education funding? also my go-to thing would be decreasing college football coaches salaries, not removing departments because you personally don't like them.

  • @noahnoah2747
    @noahnoah2747 3 года назад +16

    I appreciate you for including my favorite postmodernist drivel

  • @Gsmoovie420
    @Gsmoovie420 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve listened to the song at the end seven times in a row. I love it so much.

  • @LeafseasonMagbag
    @LeafseasonMagbag 3 года назад +47

    There’s something that makes me cringe deep in my soul when I see Jordan Peterson on Tucker Carlson’s show.

    • @Trepidateousflesh
      @Trepidateousflesh 3 года назад +7

      You, know for me? I thinks it's the fact that they are both idiots who peddle propaganda.

  • @kendokaaa
    @kendokaaa 3 года назад +16

    RUclips needs to add a second like button so I can like this video more