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“They are trying to do better. Thats better than most games. You could be apex”
Yeah that’s sadly true. The corporate greed ruined apex
Ah yes and famously corporate greed hasn’t hurt Overwatch at all ($30 for a skin)
I play apex since day one… rarely touch that shit now and when I do, still same issues
apex used to be my main game, they neglected it constantly since season 9, it’s not the same anymore and it makes me sad
@@BigOwl5130 dollars is a third of some skins cost in apex or league.
@@BigOwl51let’s not talk about the recent reverted apex battle pass changes, heirlooms and death box skins?
The shitty thing is, there are different types of players in Overwatch, but they all think they are the only type so Overwatch should only listen to them.
I think those people are just those people.
I think you can easily divide the playerbase into 3 groups. Tank mains, dps mains, and support mains.
Tank mains are broken people who are mostly 6v6ers, but have the most stable mental and *usually* a good idea on balance but sometimes they get a little wacky, especially when it comes to anti-tank dps.
Dps mains are all crybabies who’d rather type than play and they haven’t a clue on how to balance other than “nerf characters I hate and buff my mains to the moon.” They also have humongous egos as nothing is ever their fault.
Support mains are like a middle ground, they can be shitty like Dps mains or they could have some of the best takes about this game that exist, it’s really a spectrum.
@@GameGuinAzul”stable mental health” and “tank main” don’t belong in the same sentence
@@GameGuinAzulleast biased tank main lol
As an immature teenager that lashes out, I feel offended
Good.
Real 😭
@@PhillinRoyalhe's being sarcastic, unc
@@PhillinRoyal seems like you're the only immature teen here bub
Good
"You could be apex"
That's setting the bar too low
Apex is way better than Overwatch 2. I wish we were apex
@@BigOwl51you sure about that? Have you seen how many cheaters Apex has? Have you seen the amount of dislikes Apex has gotten for trailers? You sure Overwatch 2 should be like Apex?
@@BigOwl51 I have over 2k hours in apex and It's NOT better than overwatch as of right now.
Unstable servers, cheaters guaranteed on diamond or above lobbies, little to no matchmaking, no audio bugs, 160$ for a recolor of a meele, no new map since over a year, broken moon and storm point being massive maps where you spend 90% of the time running around, them saying there'd be no more weapon skin recolors as a reward for buying an entire collection event only to add a weapon skin recolors as a reward for buying a milestone event which is the same but more expensive and so much more, like the iron crow event where they wouldn't let the players buy skins directly, then said gambling to get a skin is bad and would never do it again only for them 2 years later they force you to gamble to get skins without a way to buy them directly
It's horrible.
Edit: typos
@@BigOwl51 Oh and also there's been like 3 bugs nows that just randomly reset your account.
You log on and suddenly you're level 1 without any of your skins or even characters unlocked
@@sillylocket once they fix the cheating problem then what? Ow has nun
Missed the mark on this. I’ll explain:
Someone who is not good at their job should be replaced with someone better.
What’s getting mixed up here, is that Aaron Keller IS good at his job. The man is met with an impossible task of meeting everyone’s varying and often times opposite wants and tbh the man has done a very good job of balancing that. The man has dedicated his life to overwatch which is more than most people who complain can say.
After his blog about 6v6, I 10000% agree. Someone who is willing to say that there could be a world where 6v6 AND 5v5 could coexist as seperate game modes has very obvious love for Overwatch.
@@Mastrmyrtr9You're attributing "love" to a corporate strategy where he's trying to feel out whatever strategy makes the shareholders the most money. To accurately judge Aaron Keller, all you need to do is see how extremely rehearsed and fake his talks are, talking in a very unnatural tone to try and appeal to a young and d0mb audience.
@@ingwiafraujaz3126a man who knows what he’s going to say before he says it?? 😮😮😮 definitely a corporate hack
@@ingwiafraujaz3126 you can have that attitude, sure. Or you can believe that good things can happen. Your choice really
@@ingwiafraujaz3126well guess what. We live in a world where corporate greed and shareholders determine everything. He can love the game and still be told make us more money or lose your job. It wouldbt matter who replaces him. Shareholders who invest in your company but dont care about the product are poison and thats a big problem with gaming right now. These are just business buisness I know Business people investing in stuff that makes money and they do not care what needs to be done as long as they make more and more money as opposed to making money and a decent product
An update that was received poorly? Dog there hasn’t been a positive update since s5 of OW1 😂
Calling people out for doing their job is CRAZY. You can't expect everyone to get everything right 100% of the time.
People need to grow up. Jesus.
Maybe if blizzard devs can’t handle criticism, they should stop making video games and go back to McDonald’s. I’m not gonna stop criticizing their mistakes just because “uwu they’re trying their best 🥺”. If you want to be a boot licker that’s up to you.
@@BigOwl51 they deserve all the critism towards their game, however realistically they will never make the game to where everyone is happy. someone always finds something to complain about because their lack of knowledge about countering certain characters. everyone will suggest different things and their will be plenty of people that will disagree with them. its so hard to balance games like these where everything feels fair they have to keep testing things to see if they work or not esp the large roster
@@BigOwl51 calling for people to be fired isn't criticism, is immature behaviour.
When people do their job badly they get fired. Simple as that. If a chef consistently over seasoned their dishes and pushed customers away you drop that chef. Idk why it's so taboo to say the devs should be fired for consistent shit patches
@@isaacjohnson8796 because making a video game is so different compared to cooking.
When making a video game, you try out new things, add things and change things. Some of those things hit, some of those things don't.
To criticise them and say, "hey we don't like this," is fine. To call for someone to be fired when adding things to the game they hope will improve it is so unbelievably stupid.
Overwatch players think they have it bad. Just be glad the game doesn't get treated like TF2 💀
TF2 is a botted money printing machine
Tf2 devs: dead silence
Could be worse than that could've been treated like titanfall 1
@@Lugiamaster075 Nope, now it's just a money printing machine again.
TF2 is still a thing? well I'm glad ppl are still enjoying classics
The only one who needed to be erased from the timeline was Bobby.
Listening to the community and Trying to help are definitely some of the best traits to have in a dev team. People trying to sink them really are just dumb.
If you think this is bad you should see the helldivers 2 community
Another thing is that it's clear these are not the people who put us in the situation we are today. They're the janitors that were given the deed to the city. And honestly they're cleaning up to the best of their abilities.
Not even Jeff was this vocal and honest with the community before.
How do you know that? You logically think the Devs there are brand new to the game and not carried over from Overwatch 1? You don't think that 11 seasons is enough time to fix literally anything? You think the rate of content is good? You enjoy the shop constantly being full of £20 skins while the value for money battle pass is constantly struggling to show it's value? The 3 people working on the game isn't enough, it's bad, it's direction less and fundamentally flawed, it needs a massive shakeup
@@scotttimbrell8632what you’re calling for is what already happened like two seasons ago. Change in the C-suite of blizz, mass lay offs, and a free to play game isn’t gonna generate revenue without microtransactions. Tf do you expect? Them to run the servers off unicorn rainbow magic? Like look at all the good shit we’ve gotten lately. Juno, Runasapi, Colloseo rework, quick updates/patches/hotfixes. Not all their decisions have amazing consequences, but if you think things would get better by replacing the people who’ve at least been partially listening to us with people who’ve never worked on OW before, you’re insanely shortsighted
@@marcusjohnson8649 No I'm not, those lay offs couldn't have effected this specific dev team, even if they did, cool fine, NOW we have 1 good character in 11 seasons, NOW we have a fix to a map that was created BY THEM 11 seasons. Amazing, absolutely fantastic. But how about this, actually create content for the game? How about a map AND a hero every season? You know, because Map creation and Character creation are separate and don't take 9 months to create 1 by an actual team of Devs. But that's the thing, it's literally an handful of skeleton crew Devs, if not how do you explain the lack of content? They are making money, a shit tons of money, what they arent doing is creating a game worthy of £20 skins.
I think you're right about new Devs not being able to possibly understand how to use the engine, or how Overwatch "Should" work, but I think the main problem is that you believe the current dev team does, which I would argue don't, and every single one of their choices, from content, map design, game modes, flip flopping designs and concepts, gross monetisation have been dreadful , Blizzard as a company have continuously made dreadful choices but I think putting devs on who have great ideas, talent to create them and motivation to rez our favourite game would be easier and faster than asking Aaron to finish work on the things he promised years ago.
@@marcusjohnson8649well said
Man, what a turn OW has made in it's community. It feels like just yesterday that everyone was up in arms about the state OW1 was ending on.
"You could be apex" 😭😭😭😭😭 MAN ITS ALR HARD ENOUGH WATCHING THE GAME FAIL ON MY OWN
There's some days I hate the game, but I have fun still with friends
"Leave the billion-dollar corporation alone!"
Sorry, I actually do agree with you. At the same time, I'm entirely apathetic toward Blizzard, and the joke makes itself.
Just cause there are worse games/companies out there doesn't mean we should let blizzard be trash. How much has the ow community put up with over the years? All the lies and greed. I'm all for a overhaul.
Going on 3 years and they still have no clue though
Its been almost a year since Bobby left and they were bought by Microsoft.
That is a lot of corporate change and a lot the dev team probably had to change based on vision and projects and future of the game.
All of that in less than a year. Add in a few lay offs and it doesn’t look so crazy to see them struggle.
“yeah they’re doing their job terribly but they could be worse!” thats how you sound
That's the case from what I've seen from comments so far no one is taking all the aspects into account the higher ups regulating the budget and income the split community and so on yes in my opinion the choices the team made killed the game I quited playing but the decisions aren't made by a single person and that's purely my guess we lost uncle Jeff to some greedy higher-ups because he was standing up for the players
100% help and support the people supporting and building the game for a better game
To be fair though not doing your job in any other job gets you fired
There's a difference between not doing your job and simply releasing a product that was initially or for a time received poorly. Companies need to be willing to take risks instead of always defaulting to the safe option. Thats how a product improves. Not by staying stagnant by always staying safe.
This is like abused children comparing who has it worse "well you're dad only hits you so you have it good."
I don't think they should be fired but their whole ass job is to balance the game and they consistently make bad updates
Yeah, because if you continuously refuse to listen to your fanbase and actually balance characters correctly continuously for over a year and a half you totally don’t deserve to be fired. That’s like me continuously fucking up my job and my boss continuously tells me exactly what I’m doing wrong and how to fix it, but I just ignore him…
I’ll be grateful when the game is fun.
Devs aren't the problem. It's the greedy higher ups that are preventing the devs from making beneficial changes because it doesn't directly effect the income flow.
They are the people who are working on the game and the same people making the same bad decisions for the last 2 years
Seems like blizzard is "trying" for years now.....
I slightly disagree. If we had ousted the bad devs before, maybe we'd have actually gotten Overwatch 2, not overwatch 1remix.
I don't think the people that make these decisions always want the game to be better. They want it to make more money. Those 2 very rarely go hand in hand in the eyes of most blizz decision makers.
“So they shouldn’t be fired for not doing their job??”
Not doing their job would be abandoning the game and we never get updates again… I think we can handle an awful patch or 2 before wanting that to happen.
We’ve been through a bunch of awful patches but credits to the devs, at least the awful patches shake up the game.
I said that in season 2
There's a bug in Apex Legends where your legend won't show up in your banner frame. It's the equivilent of sometimes not seeing your victory pose at the end of an OW game. Keep in mind that some people spend 100s of dollars customizing their banner.
This bug has existed for well over a season. In Overwatch, it would've been fixed in days, or weeks at most.
I love advocating for Devs who just want to make a game that people love. Sometimes, their ideas are fire, and sometimes they are trash. But they keep trying. These are people who dump hours upon hours, brainstorming ideas and tweaking things. Because they want players to enjoy their games.
True but the game hasn’t been enjoyable for awhile now.
As someone who's worked in animation industry before, I think the same philosophy still applies here with game development.
Decisions like the ones made for this season are usually made months if not a year in advance. It's not like anyone made these plans overnight to solely piss off their fans. Sometimes they overestimate their popularity of something and they make mistakes. It happens in every industry, this is normal. But it grows complicated when you have factors like the Microsoft merger, the layoffs afterwards, and the company still recovering from such massive changes. So it's safe to say that a majority of things that Team4 did have planned either were thrown out due to those factors or were delayed for another season/event. We will never know.
Regardless, people shouldn't cast blame onto the devs for shit they cannot control. They are at the same level as your average wage workers, living under set conditions so they can be paid for the work they are told to make. They aren't usually the ones calling the shots, that is up to the company's own approval. (Edit: that includes the directors in some cases. Remember how Aaron Keller was thrown directly under the bus by former CEO Bobby Kotick during the PvE Cancellation fiasco) You don't know the conditions these people are in.
Your anger towards them only fuels Blizzard's desire to cut more people down to save on costs. Because despite popular belief, companies like them do not want their projects to fail, they only care about the amount of money they'll make from them. Most companies will never blame themselves and instead blame their employees because they know their majority player audience is stupid and will blame those that are directly in front of them, not the corporate entities that are behind those decisions.
This is not a black and white solution to fix everything. This is something that has been building to destroy Blizzard's reputation for a while. I've spoken with former Overwatch employees before and while I'm not at liberty to tell their stories. You do not know the conditions Blizzard puts them through.
When you look at situations like these I beg you to have empathy first.
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This is so true, theyll complain about everything just for the sake of complaining. Literally could give them what they want and theyll still complain
I disagree. If they consistently make poor decisions which harm their playerbase then they simply aren't good at their job and need to have their position placed under consideration.
Ive just accepted that any patch that doesnt give dps and support insta queue and perma invuln will get back lash. This patch was a shake up. The devs knew it would change how the game was played and where team focus was. Thats why they did it. But no, the egotistical, main character syndrome definiton, players wont realize that. Its this update that made me come back to overwatch 2 after season 4 and it finally feels good to play as any role.
I know a lot of people that quit because of this update. Some even say this is one the worst games they ever played but they love overwatch thats what keeps them playing .Most people that still play this game don’t like playing it anymore but are hanging on to nostalgia.
I think that since it “shook up the game” it’s actually a good patch. If your just there adjusting numbers, then the game will get stale, these big patches that change a lot is really good for the longevity of the game, just as long as you trust that eventually, they’ll get it.
Legit. That needs to be the opinion across the board. Aside from being our entertainment these games they make are how people feed their children. This is how they make a living.
Alec hasn't done well in his position since day 1 of overwatch 2, which is a bit sad.
I understand, and i agree. But in my case you gotta understand my perspective. Ive been waiting like 6 years for this game to reach healthy balance state and fulfill its potential, and all thats been happening is a decline in the quality of my game experience. I dont want them to be fired. Im not sending them any hate. I appreciate their communication and effort. But i think its valid for me to feel tired at this point and to have completely lost faith in their ability to fix this game. I no longer have tolerance for their mistakes. Ive lost my capacity to think positively for this games future.
Nah they've shat on us for way too long. I'm all for AAron leaving/being fired.
Aaron is the main one that is listening to the community. Most of the people that did the shatting are not there any more. Thats what half you people dont understand. Firing aaron wont help your issue.
Remember the time when you can earn skins by PLAYING the game, no one complained this much coz we got rewarded playing the shtty game, but greedy grease balls get don't get a pass when they mess up, with a certain investment there is a certain expectation.
Me who played Apex for 15 Seasons straitgh, the Overwatch updates are just a relief for me
to be honest a good majority of the reason why i’m discouraged to play the game is more to do with the community than the game itself
As a TF2 fan, be glad they still care, because one day they’ll abandon you too, and you’ll miss these days
I'm a new ow2 player. What i've realised playing this far: people are gonna talk about ow1 like it was the golden days and anything after that is just shit even when/if the game is cool
That's because even when it was barely being attended by the dev team at the end of OW1 it was better than it is now.
“Getting fired after buffing mauga is lowkey warranted” Thats not true but kinda funny😅
I mean I wouldn’t be opposed to it…
I mean it shouldn’t happen but like…
@@GameGuinAzul yes we dont want mauga buffed but no one deserves to be fired for it
I think this is just a natural resolution people come to when frustrated with something they think is being handled inappropriately by authority, no? People ask for Managers in any position all the time to step down when they feel like said individuals aren’t fulfilling their responsibilities… look at football or CEOs or hell, politics.
I think to drone on about a subset group who happen to use this phrasing in their disapproval of the Devs is just nitpicking, and detracts from the wider discussion this aims to achieve which is that yeah, the Devs SHOULD be called out for their handling of the situation the last few years. Which shouldn’t be considered rude to at least pose the suggestion of new leadership, even if it is articulated in the most god awful way. It isn’t something I personally want to see done, but if someone held that strong opinion, it’s entirely reasonable to weigh it with merit rather than devolving into emotion rebuttal.
Its to the point I think these sort of shorts actually encourage the community to get into heated arguments, just as the end of the short and other comments here show, which are starting to get into broader logic disputes rather than contextual debates at hand about OW2.
You should call out the devs for not making good decisions.
You shouldn’t be asking for their livelihood to be revoked just because you’re unhappy with the game state.
Nobody likes the dps passive, the devs certainly know that. But they seem to be too scared of their own community to actually fix the game the way we want.
I like to think of the dev team of this game as a wild animal you wish to domesticate. Don’t lash out, be calm, patient, and eventually, you’ll get what you want.
Being pissed isn’t constructive criticism, talking about the pain points and giving suggestions is.
Yeah i agree, dont fire incompetent Devs who have made constant bad choices for 11 seasons and sell us £20 weapon skins. Nah, they are trying to help us because they spoke to one of the streamers.
Woooooowwww great logic mate, youre the reason shit isnt changing for the better. Communication only gets you so far when the actions are telling you differently.
So quick question… who do you think is pushing the £20 skin?
The devs or the greedy company?
@@GameGuinAzul pushing the £20 skin? They are 1 in the same. The company have a small dev team who are making bad choices, and have to focus on £20 skins rather than sort out the game and any changes are shite regardless. Doesn't negate my point whoever is pushing the overpriced skins, my point still stands. The company is to blame overall regardless.
The OW devs, despite popular belief, do actually care about this game. Sure, they might not be perfect, but no dev team is. Every game has its fuck ups, every game has its imperfections, every dev team makes mistakes. Its all a part of the game-making process; if these mistakes were never made and they just stuck to what they knew worked 100%, then the game would never change and would never get refreshing content. The devs need to experiment to find what works, and if youre mad at them for doing that and changing the game, then go play TF2, I've heard that game hasnt had a new hero in 12 years.
Not knocking TF2 btw, just saying if people want a game that doesnt change then they can go play that instead of getting mad at Blizzard
A game of this type tends to become irrelevant after being around as long as TF2 I don't know what people woukd expect at that point
@@rosssivertson6339 apparently they expect OW to never change 😭
They care about the money OW makes. Not the potential OW has.
@@ingwiafraujaz3126no , the corporate people do, devs actually want the game to be good. You need to understand the diff parts of corporations and teams like that.
The devs are not the ones setting prices for the skins.
The most recent update isn't an issue of one update. We don't want that job role gone, we want it.. possibly replaced when they seem to lack entire fundamental ideas for the game. They didn't allow 6v6 convos in interviews for awhile, didn't talk about it for months while the community cries over it, we all see NO direction for the entire tank role, people aren't just upset with this one patch... It's the design philosophy. How far does overwatch 2 have to fall to say firing/replacing makes sense?
So have you not seen how the community is? Honestly it’s worse than league sometimes.
Also the tank role is incredibly misunderstood by everyone who is not a tank main. Tanks make space, they don’t tank damage.
@@GameGuinAzul imo the community would only get worse if they kept not allowing communication of 6v6. Communication will bring us together, but they wanted to split the community further ig
Should they be fired? No. Should a reorganization be reviewed where changes are made within the team to get some better development decisions being made? Absolutely. Think people’s frustration isn’t just with this one patch. It’s been the floundering feeling they have had. Look at what tanks had to go through for way too long.
This is the mindset that got us battle passes and bad decisions across so many games. It's so stupid that in the video game industry you have a better chance of failing upward than actually getting rewarded based on your merits. It's insane that for multiplayer games the OW2 devs are probably some of the best right now. Too many people just accept whatever is dropped in front of them yet complain endlessly about it.
Not saying the devs should be fired, but why is it when they make bad decisions the most you get out of a content creator (besides like Samito and maybe someone else idk) is "well the jobs hard guys, you wouldn't know it's hard ok." Yeah. A lot of jobs are. You still have to know what you're doing. These devs are trying their best, but it's painfully obvious they don't really know how to balance multiplayer games. Their buffs and nerfs OFTEN are nonsensical. "It's a hard job guys." Probably be easier if the devs knew anything about how to play the game past a silver level. And I'm not saying the devs need to be top 500, but maybe the play testers for patches (if those exist lol) should be? Idk, but I know these devs would've gotten CLOWNED for a lot of these balance decisions if this game was 10 years older.
The community is the best problem ow has tbh
Yeah cause they eat up the slop served to them every update😀
Lol the real immature behaviour is calling other like that just cus u didnt like thier OPINION😂
It’s not just one update they abandoned ow1 to “work on” the slop you call a game now “ohhh at least it’s not apex” WE JUST GOT A 80$ WEAPON SKIN. Actual lobotomy patient
Remember if yall wanna be angry blame the money hungry people telling the devs what they can and cant do, not the devs
I disagree with everything in here it’s not the devs first failed attempt and from what I can see won’t be their last one either.
“Ifyou can’t fix it someone else can”
This game has not had a improvement recently someone has to be blamed for it
remember the rule number one for getting angry at a game, NEVER get angry at the devs, 90% of the time its really not their fault because of crazy deadlines and horribles workspaces.
no one should lose their job, but it would be a win for the consumer
This is coping by making downwards comparisons. We shouldn't expect this downward trend catalyzed by corporate greed. We should expect better.
They may not be doing an incredible job but let’s be real, it’s rare to see this much communication from the devs.
This means that they’re doing a better job than they have. Communication is the first hurdle, and once they cross it, the game will become better.
Why shouldn't bad workers be fired?
If you order a medium steak and the cook keeps making it well done because it's all he knows. Would people make excuses?
Video games are a product
A product that needs to please hundreds of people at once, unlike restaurants.
@@luizeduardoortizduarte4380 restaurants also need to please a mass amount of people. Or they go out of business.
Ow2 also does not seem to be pleasing the masses since it's hemorrhaging players and even people who have to suck the dick of ow because it's there job have started saying it's pretty bad right now
@@luizeduardoortizduarte4380 And when the recipe for their perfectly cooked steak was already favorably reviewed by the vast majority and their new stake isn't, they should go back to what worked and fire everybody that changed it.
I think the people at the top should be the ones we get mad at not the hardworking employees that do as there told
As much as I hate OW nowadays and will never play that game again, this video is so true. The devs (minus community devs) actually show that they try.
Good: Siege
Slowly falling: OW2
Oh no what have we become: Apex
Literally OW could be 2K. Don’t mess the the Devs KIDS!!!
Also, Alec Dawson has been there for like, 15 months. How long do these people think it takes to fully integrate and steer the ship the way you want? I'm willing to bet Juno is the first hero that's all Alec and the previous ones were remnants from Geoff Goodman.
You could be TF2!
*cries in pootis-pow*
The response of a man who donations pay his bills. If you’re not doing a good job at your job, what’s the next step then?
They are doing a good job, they’re changing the game consistently, just becuase you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s a bad job.
“They’re trying” lmfao yea they’ve been “trying” for 11 seasons now and haven’t gotten it right yet. Im not licking boots for some devs who make 6 figures to change 35% to 36% in patch notes and say “its hard work”
Bro the people making the patches don’t even get shit! Devs in the gaming industry are underpaid and overworked due to actually giving more of a shit about their game than you clearly do.
@@GameGuinAzul”under paid, over worked” bro it’s 2024 and they work in California. They’re barely trying and making 6 figure. The lead devs are almost all in the millions. They hire fembois and fat lesbians to toe the line and have “safe space” meetings if someone sneezes too loudly so nobody gets PTSD. These SoCal soft devs aren’t in poor working conditions💀 they would be protesting outside of blizzard if they had to actually work an 8 hour day. Keep simping and coping for a company that sees you as an ATM.
we found the lashing out child
@@Mars34582 aww simping for the devs, man i remember when I was 18 and thought everyone worked hard.
Everyday is a stretch
??? You guys are waiting for a new season to pay 10-20 bucks for a battlepass, an event that gives you $50-60 skins, battlepass skin themed for the shop, and weapon skins. The whole overwatch experience is waiting on stuff to come out so you can buy it. Nobody talks about it cause youre all addicted and refuse to see it lmfao
As a former player of apex I feel oddly offended but also he's a very correct
The death of video games will not come from the devs but from the players
But how many times do you let them mess up? OW2 has been on damage control since release
played overwatch since 2016 never raged I played unite for a year raged almost every single game
There are some who are constructively criticizing, and that needs to continue, even if the game does get good.
We also need to not fall into a rut of "well at least we're better than the competition". The bar for modern video gaming is already threatened enough.
However, neither of those reasons is any excuse for lashing out the way a lot of people have.
Yea but when it’s consistently bad and make a sequel to promote monetization options I can say I would like them to step down and have some one else take charge
It hurts to hear “It could be Apex” but it’s sadly true
While i agree no one should be fired over a single update that was bad vut if its consistent or continuous yes 1000% fire them, theyve shown they cant do their job so why should they keep it?
Updates*
UPDATES*
They have consistently throwing out bad balances from 3 second Zarya bubbles since launch and til now. throwing out patches that shouldn't be added or weren't asked of at all, forcing reworks for characters than made them worse themselves or worse to deal with. They weren't listening to anyone til now, finally addressing 6v6, which i will give them that.
But Bobby Kotick has been gone, the game is still ass 11 seasons in. The higher ups aren't to blame anymore... it's the devs.
Imagine coping so hard that you still play overwatch and say things like “It could be worse” when your game is gunning for second worst after League.
I think this is an L take and I legitimately do wish they’d step down. I think the people saying this would agree with me that it isn’t just because of one bad patch or something, ow2 came out 2 years ago and they ruined what used to be one of the biggest IPs. To be fair to the dev team so I don’t look completely negative they had lost a lot of players from the huge content delay in ow1, but ow2 had a massive launch which they fumbled it and lied to the players. How many mistakes do they need to make? In any other industry such a failure would get you fired and I’m tired of streamers telling me to accept garbage because it’s better than apex?
"just a bad update"? There hasn't been a single good update in the entire history of ow2 that didn't revolve around spending money
I just like to yell, makes me feel better lmao, that's why I tell people don't listen to me when I'm angy 😂😂😂 gimme 5 minutes and I'll love the game again
They're the reason the game your playing exists, without them there will be no and dey say 😔
Making death threats and calling for resignation is insane behavior. If you disagree, give constructive feedback why you do and if you do agree, show that you’re enjoying it.
While not the most communicative, Blizzard has been doing a pretty decent job with blog posts and patches, which is sure as hell better than other companies I know
Jeez, calling for people to get fired for not doing their job? No, they're just not doing it to the liking of these people. The entitlement is off the friggin charts.
Good compared to some games, bad compared to others.
I am not big on shooters, but I have bought Splatoon 3 and that game is a great example on how to handle a live service game.
Balance is solid most of the time, although this apparently was not the case with 2, hence some specials being dropped between games. s
Stages, weapons, sub weapons and specials are all tuned up over time, leading to a wide variety of play styles being viable and the brief nature of the game modes makes for an easier experience to get into the games, compared to other shooters I have tried.
It also helps that the game is a single buy for the entire experience, the DLCs are standalone experiences that don't affect multiplayer in any significant way and that everything is attainable just by playing the game.
Regardless of how strong tanks are. When tracer and somba are meta, the game is not fun to play.
I wanted to make a second comment to address an issue. Balance patches should never be twice a season. Especially as more and more heroes and maps and gamemodes are introduced. I legitimately despise this patch and I'm even contemplating quitting overwatch until it gets better. A patch system like this is horrible because when players don't enjoy the patch, they have no reason to continue playing until mid season patch or next season. Balance patches should be a minimum of bi-weekly. But in my opinion they should be weekly. I mean even flats has had a couple seasons where he barely played ranked because its not fun. Imagine if they made more frequent patches. Instead of "oh, ill come back next season" its "oh give it 1 or 2 weeks". AND yes i understand they need to do more than balance patches to keep the game alive amd fresh. But the current system of balance patches is horrid because literally incentives people to not play for whole seasons if they dont enjoy the patch
By the way to add on to this if they did bi-weekly. Itd be the start of season patch so week 1 week 3 weekn5 week 7 and then probably skip week 9 into doing next season patch. So it'd only be two more patches a season.
The devs are trying their best and I'm not gonna fault them because they buffed a character they shouldn't but their explanation of why they buff or nerf that character is understandable.
Bro if you don’t like the update that much. The best thing to do is stop playing. When the player base starts to drop they will be like. Ok we fucked up. I haven’t played for 3 seasons because the patches kept getting worse and worse. Once they changed health pools it started going down hill quick. All because they didn’t want to just nerf healing and burst damage. Other than hanzo tbh. He literally just needed a projectile size nerf, and projectile speed increase. But they did the complete opposite. It’s wild to me.
This logic doesn’t make sense if I don’t finish the work assigned to me at work I don’t get to keep showing up for 7yrs and still not get it done, game development is a job and they don’t face accountability for not doing their job the core team is doing the work but they decide whether to move forward or not and the direction so its their head on the chopping block if they can’t deliver a service that is advertised as such
I would be grateful if they didn't piss on us for years
Piss on us ? When did that happen
I love Hots. The blizzard MOBA. Seeing ppl complain about the amount/quality of support overwatch gets is laughable
Looking at 343 industries
No, they needed to stop trying, I believe that everybody involved in the switch between OW1 and OW2 should be fired.
Disagree, if they work on your game everyday and theyre still delivering garbage at some point changes need to be made. Its only natural. Its like saying 343 shouldn't have halo taken away from them
No. The overwatch devs are the worst of the dev teams out there. They are THE MOST braindead devs. Get rid of Team 4 and get some actual devs in here. Team 4 has been shitting on the game for 8 years. Bring in some new people.
People are bringing this to almost Genshin level drama