Lip Filler Migration: Causes & Prevention
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- My theory on what causes lip filler migration and how to prevent it from happening.
The example of beautiful lips done at 03:05 were performed by Lip Religion's Linda Dehnert-Rowe. She's a lip genius! And also very kind. Check her IG out @lipreligion.
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This guy’s voice is so soothing. I mean yeah informative and all that too but you can’t deny it
Totally agree Dr.Hanna
This is really interesting to listen to. I’ve only had lip fillers twice and each injector used completely different techniques. The first person injected from the side of the lip corner and pushed needle into the backside of the lip and filled while he pulled needle out. No pain for me. Alot of lip volume resulted from that method. It pushed my lip forward but didn’t change the shape much. Second injector did many small pokes and injections all around the outside of my lips. ALOT of pain. Alot of bruising. Volume after for a month or two but it didn’t last long for me.
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Thank you for educating me. I’m considering having a filler since my once very full lips have shrunken due to age. I’m really nervous about any procedure and have never consider elective procedures but lip fillers have been in my mind lately. As a RN I know I have to educate myself and this video was a good start!
Literally your work is the most natural and beautiful I’ve seen. I’d never get any fillers myself having seen the 9/10 awful results here in the UK but if I was in Canada I’d consider it ! 🤣
What's wrong with people?? Why would anyone down vote this? This guy does nothing but give us vital information for us injectors that's hard to find...smh...Dan keep your content coming and never stop please! 👍🏽
Thanks! I appreciate all the support
I agree this was really helpful
Probably who downgrade Dane is bunch of competitors of plastic surgeons ... Dane you are amazing thank you for these amazing vidoes
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Thanks Dan! I’d love to see your technique/procedure for dissolving lip filler 🙌🏻
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I dont know if you can do that, but I'd love to hear your opinion on different brands for each area, especially because there is so little data on brands, and comparing G prime, durability, etc. I'm a young physician who is specialising in aesthetics - I've gotta long way to go! Love your videos, thanks! Best,
Gabriel Challub, MD
OMG I'm so glad I found your video I was totally clueless of all the risks, the best ways to inject and the type of products, arghhhh! !!! You're a super nice caring person !!!!
I really appreciated this video and information- I’m going to get my top lip filled Friday... I went last year for filler and asked for filler in mostly the top lip-but the injector put most in my bottom lip-which is already fuller- I left feeling really frustrated.. she said I could come back and buy another syringe for the top lip-I thought, forget it. We are wearing masks most of the time anyway.
F❤️cking masks
Yes to all of this and also don't forget that a sucking action. (e.g. straw) can displace filler.
Honestly, an amazing, simple yet very clear explanation that teaches patients and physicians alike ! thank you very much doctor! you have a new subscriber from Tunisia !
Always amazing content. thank you.
Informative videos. Thank you for making this channel. 👍
Great video doctor!!! so helpful and super detail oriented
Thank you for the information👏 and l wish you would make avedio for the denger zones of bitox anf filler injection
Believe me you are one of the best. keep doing it.
Hey there - there is a video on just this topic which is produced by Dr Chan at the Victorian Cosmetic Institute in Australia, along with a colleague who has a cosmetic practice as well as being a radiologist. What they have found by using MRI imaging is very pertinent to your theories about filler migration.
On Spot content! TY so much. Awesome discernment. Do you think horizontal philtrum crease is due to migration or to much product? What would be a remedy?
No, that’s because your depressor septi nasi muscle. It pulls too much. Place some toxin under the mid base of the nose. It will relax it.
@@danestheticsmedical Omg! Your freakin' Rich Slay Mind! TY! U rock
I wish I could visit your office in Ottawa! You are so knowledgeable ! I live in the US. Maybe someday...😁
Absolutely insightful information!
Dr. Victor Frankenstein, why didn't you stop after one failed project. Millions walking the street now, scary stuff.
Low viscosity even in the border?
So informative! Thank you so much
I’m freaking depressed. I just got my 4th lip filler injection this year. She told me I’ve got lots of upwards migration and even a bit on the bottom. She also said if anyone injects me after this then they’re just taking my money. She told me I need to have it all dissolved and redone next time.
No one ever told me that I would ever have to have it dissolved. She said I was getting to fluffy. Im depressed. Im glad she was honest. But damn what a waste of money and now I have fluffy stupid duck lips. 😭
That’s very informative..can I get just lower lip filled and expect if it migrates it will go in the chin..and not north or am I just being over smart 😅
Ok need some opinions I’ve had lip filler twice the first time was over 2 years ago and then last week and my lips have done this why and what should I do 🤔😞
Thank you ^^ That s so informative!!
Hi there, do you ever think someone can never need to get their lips dissolved? For example, someone starts with naturally fuller lips and over the span of 5-7 years had filler injected 4x...or does filler eventually move?
It eventually moves 100% of the time.
This was very helpful, thanks ❤
Gracias, from CT? Love to hear your information and have to say your handsome!!!
Thanks!
Interesting video. I m interested to see your personal tecnique of lip augmentatiot It it is possibile. Can you explain how you use hyaluronidase Ande the injection tecnique? Please
Thanks for explaining
What if it has been 2-3 years since last fillers, should you still get it dissolved
how is lip filler dissolved? I have heard that it does not completely dissolve. Is that true?
It dissolves on its own over time, which takes an average of two years. But there’s evidence showing that certain HA fillers can be seen on MRI’s up to 10 years later. It can also be dissolved with an enzyme called hyaluronidase. It converts it into water.
Can lip filler migrate to another area around face ?
If I get filler once a year or year and a half and only .5 ml do u think I’m still at risk of getting duck lipped or migration ?
Could you show us your lip filler technique?
omg you're like the real life christian troy
That's why I opened the video omg he looks like him!!! 😍😍😍
Ahahah IDENTICAL!
I had 0.5 ml of juviderm ultra for the first time 5 days ago. My bottom lip border is sticking out and my bottom lip looks flat from a side profile. There is no volume at all. I can also feel two large lumps inside my bottom lip. Top lip looks fine besides a bruise. My question is should I be massaging the lip? She said not to, to go back in 2 weeks. I am in my 40’s and just wanted a natural enhancement. Also will the filler always feel like it’s inside or will it turn liquidy? I can literally feel where every bit of filler is
You Would not inject into the vermillion border, Just right below the White roll, but the vermillion border is Just right below the White roll.
Is dissolving filler nessesary if im getting 1 ml once a year?
Great video 😉
Mine after 3 months they desolve quickly I would think that getting a full syringe would help the case but I don’t think my lips r big enough or have space, what do u recommend to make filler last longer ?
It likely didn’t dissolve. It likely moved somewhere else. For 1st time fillers, I generally recommend a top up of a 1/2 syringe 3 months later. It looks great and lasts longer.
I did it a tiny bit, but after 2 years it is still there. I am afraid of removing it. Sorry for my bad English.
Its very painful to dissolve
@@marileorube24 I still hope it will disappear. I was even told it was a solvable one😔
@@elsdebast122 they lie. Takes a very long time and it can just move around
@@marileorube24 thanks. I asked this week to remove it and they said that it probably was scar tissue and that it could'nt be dissolved. I only fid it once, very little dose, how come? It should be told to the patient before. Now when I smile it looks weird an I always feel uncomfortable.🥺
@@marileorube24 I quit with that shit.
How would I build my lips to the desired size if I'll resolve them every other time? Also isn't that putting my own collagen at risk?
Could you name which filler products you would suggest? I feel like many clinics only really give you one option, so I'd love to be able to request the best product.
If it’s a reputable HA FILLER, they’re all good! It really depends on the person doing the injections. They need to be aware of injection depth, technique, how volumizing it will be, and much water it will draw over the next two weeks.
I got my top lip done 4 months ago and want to go back for one more treatment and then be done for good. Filler migration is scary and part of me doesn't even want to go back. What is your opinion on this?
They say fillers are addicting but TRUST I only wanted to try it out. Plus I'm too broke to be keeping up with it lol.
I often recommend 1st time fillers to lips going back for a 1/2 syringe top up 3 months later. It should last 1yr.
So do I have to dissolve my lip fillers? Or can I wait
I have bad migration now cause I was injecting quite often over 4 years and never dissolved it ...a question- is this possible to dissolve the “north”area of migrated filler or it should be dissolve completely?
It is possible (I had it done)
My filler never lasts , I get 4-6 weeks max😢 I keep having them done thinking eventually I can buildup and it will stay . Anyone else have this problem and have a fix?
What if I only get filler on my lips one time? I just want to even put the top lip to match my bottom
I had silicone filler, it's been a little over a month and see no progress. Did something go wrong or not enough silicone filler injected?
Hi. I can’t help. I don’t offer silicone fillers.
how do you get em dissolved
I've done a patch test to dissolve and ended up with a hive. Does this mean I can never dissolve migrated filler?
Unfortunately, if you’ve had a positive reaction, it means you shouldn’t receive further treatment with hyaluronidase. Placing it in the face could result in swelling of the lips tongue & throat.
@@danestheticsmedical so how can we dissolve our filler ? I need help please
Hi there
After dissolve how long should I wait to.go back for filler ?
At least 5 days.
Awesome!😍
Hello sir ... I am from India.... When I was 12 year old ... In an accident . I had a lump in my lower lip ... that lump looks me bad ... please sir tell me what should I do for that .... it will be disappear🙏🙏
I think dissolving is something that isn't talked about at all in practices. I had a patient that literally looked horrible and just kept wanting more. The doctor never suggested starting fresh its really annoying
I can only imagine that he is afraid the patient will feel all her money buying that filler was wasted.
How does dissolving in the lips reach the areas where the filler migrated to?
Yes! This happend to me. I went to very good Clinics and none of the Doctors told me about lip filler migration! I 've had it for years!!!! They put more and more filler in! I thought they will fix the duck lip but it got worse and worse. 10 years after looking like an idiot my PMU lady who did my brows told me it can be dissolved!!!!!!
@@sydneysnyder11 they inject it above the lips where migration is
@@onataka2506 thank you!!
As a new injector I really appreciate this advice. Your voice is also very calming and I love watching your videos!
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That’s how the bills get paid. She wants you to come back. She fully understood what you said and did the complete opposite. I’ve never go back to her.
You said we should stick to thin products with low viscosity instead of thick ones? Which specific fillers do you recommend then? How do I know the difference between Juvederm, Restylane etc. ?
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This was a great video! I learned so much and love the way you explain things!
Thanks!
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But everytime you dissolve the lip filler you also breakdown the HA naturally found in the lip. So you not only break down the filler but your own storage of moisture and plumpness so the lips will appear even more deflated and overtime sag and age quicker which increase the need for even more filler. So it doesn't sound like a longterm strategy if girls in their 20 - 30s should dissolve their lipfiller that frequently.
Incorrect. Studies have already shown that in some cases, dissolver can indeed breakdown our own natural HA however it does regenerate within 48 hours.
@@Dylan-ni9my « studies show » how about you link said studies, if you want to convince people
@@ubs16 I don't need to convince people. Studies already show it. Sit down and educate yourself, a quick search on google scholar shows such studies in a matter of seconds. Maybe look into Dr. Gabriela Casabona's studies showing the use of Hyaluronidase on HA and how HA regenerates itself.
@@ubs16I'd love to see your links as well as hers. That would be more helpful.
Just wondering if its still necessary to dissolve fillers periodically to prevent migration and the formation of a "pocket" even if you're not getting them done regularly? Maybe once every 12-18 months?
I was wondering the same !
Generally No. But I can’t make that claim for 100% of the population. Great question
Dan Julien NP
I'm also wondering if it's necessary to dissolve and redo if i never intend to get them done again or regularly? like I'm satisfied with the smallest amount of fullness. will it still migrate and I'd need to redo the entire process?
This was going to be my question too, I hope somebody responds
@@danestheticsmedical What if we getting one syringe every six months or we wait for a year??
I got my lips done a year ago and loved them, and i went back this year but i felt like the filler is starting to form a shodow on my upper lip this time.. and i guess now i know why. Thanks alot for the helpful video i will make sure to dissolve next time before re-injecting
I was about have lip filler this week but now I change my mind
Thank u
I have M shaped lips. My first apt I was surprised that they injected (half syringe) directly on my upper lip line as this area of my lip already protrudes the most naturally. This made my lip line stick out like crazy on top and then the filler migrated north within a day. I had it dissolved and now I will never let an injector put product here, it doesn’t work on my m lip shape at all. I have to have it put on either side of my “beak” to even it out and then the lowest part of my lip only (meaty inner part) I strongly oppose having filler put anywhere near the white roll or even the edges of the vermillion border. It is not flattering for all lip shapes especially mine. I wish injectors wouldn’t assume a one size fits all approach to lip injections.
I love all your videos they are so informative! 😭 since I’m typically seeing a lot of people my age (20-30s) interested in cosmetic procedures such as fillers and Botox, would you make a video describing what can the younger generation do to prevent wrinkles, volume and collage loss as we get older? I think it would be beneficiary to save time and money as we hit the ages of 40s and 50s
Sunscreen. Sunscreen. And don't smoke.
Sunscreen at least twice daily. Rx Tretinoic acid 0.025%-0.05% at night. Vit C topical morning. Exercise daily, don’t smoke, limit alcohol. Oral Collagen if you’re not getting enough protein in your diet (50-60 g/day). You will still need medical aesthetic treatments, but this slow it down.
@@danestheticsmedical thank you so much 🥺❤️
Have melanin 😂
@@cakepudding3220 bruh😭💀
Hey, after watching this video i made an appointment to have my lipfillers desolved.
Ive been having lipfillers from different places over the last 6 years and had them desolved today.
First i would like to say that no docter ever told me about this whole thing. I realy think they Should!!
My experience:
I did hurt to get my lips desolved but the pain is gone directly after the treatment is done.
My lips are already much smaller than before but are very bruised.
Im realy happy theres no migration anymore
How did it go, did you get new fillers? And are you happier with the new results?
could you talk about the botox lip flip?
I THINK YOU EXPLAINED YOUR POINTS EXTREMELY WELL. THANK YOU
My lip filler had migrated and I always wondered what some of the reasons could be. Thank you for the informative video I now know I need to have it dissolved. But now I’m worried when you said it’s pretty much permanently made a pocket there now😰
how's it going
Ally Mcbeal I’ve since had my filler dissolved and let me tell you it hurts! Waiting till I am cleared to get filler again. You typically have to wait 3 weeks post dissolve to get filler injected again.
@@qweeenb yikes, thanks for the update
@@qweeenb hey how did it go, did you get them done once again? Did the fillers dissolve completely after 3 weeks and are you happier with your new results?
@@pal020701 I had a fair amount of filler in my lips so it took me 3 rounds of dissolving till it was finally all out. But I have since then gotten them refilled again and they look amazing! My injector just different techniques on my lips since filler had already migrated on me before
From personal experience, I think your 100% correct.
Nice video.. thanks
Could you show us how to dissolve the duck lips.
Do u inject in the vermilion?
I’ll keep that video in mind. I don’t inject the vermillion border with hyaluronidase.
I also believe it’s largely due to incorrect choice of product. In UK many people are using Revolax Deep for lips. Now any filler with the name ‘Deep’ surely should be implanted deeply, such as the periosteum or to bone..not in the lips!!!
I always inject into the vermillion border to define it, and none of my patients have ever experienced migration.
Getting my first pout tomorrow. You’ve EARNED a new subscriber.
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Did it work out for you ?
How did it goo?
I’ve seen a lot of injectors using a technique called, “Russian Lips.” The lips are always extremely sharp and defined, is this achieved by adding filled to the vermillion border (the part where you spread the lips and see the white area?) And I may have missed it in the video but are there higher risks of migration associated with this Russian Lips technique? Thank you so much!!!!
Sincerely,
A Future Injector :)
I’ve been trying to find research on this but can’t find it anywhere, would love to know the answer!!
I too would love an answer for this, and what people could do instead if they want similar results. I have heard mixed things, but it seems many injectors do claim that injecting into the border increases risk for migration because the lips are stretched beyond their potential. However, I feel like the other techniques that "anti-russianlips" doctors/injectors promote give results that are WAY too minimal (what they call natural), it looks like they've put rose tinted lip gloss on. I don't agree with pushing the idea that conservative lip fillers are the only way to go. Some people want a dramatic difference, just like how people with big noses go in for a rhinoplasty and come out with a small one, or flat-chested girls get a boob job and come out with D cups.
hi! from what i've seen from top injectors online, RLT is awful and promotes more migration in the long-run. my injector (based in texas and has national recognition) HATES rlt for that reason. :)
Hi Jenn, Great question.
Personally, I like some of the Russian Lip techniques. Some techniques are done with a lot of filler in the V border, and others not so much. I feel that placing too much filler in the V border does increase your chance of superficial migration though.
All the best,
Dan Julien NP
I recently got it done so we will find out 😹
Got 0.5 ml in my lips and it still migraines. I believe it always migrates.
Same with me😢
This is so informative. Haven't seen a better video on this topic. Thank you as always, really appreciate it. I'm based in Europe, hope some day to visit you 🤩, had very bad and prolonged migration after lip injections with plastic surgeons here so I dont trust easily anymore. Please, could you consider doing a video on how to smooth out lines on the chest? Are there any danger zones ? Techniques? Thanks for everything ...
Incredible truth! I have not heard or seen another recommend dissolving filler after x amount of treatments. Brilliant! This makes sense on many levels. More Dr's need to educate their clients as you evidently do.
Look forward to learning more from your videos. Keep them coming!
🙏🏼 thanks!
Agree! Such a great tip!
There’s an educating comment which informs us as to how n why dissolving filler fat can also weaken general skin around n be detrimental, it would be kind of the doctor to clarify this
He is a nurse.
do actually i dont think ur full of it.VERY TRUE GREAT INFO.THANKS!!
Why is his voice so soothing
Do you think that working out 5x a week of cardio and strength training makes the fillers whether cheeks or lips easily dissolve?
Here for the reply.
I workout a LOT, hot yoga, hiking, spin, Barr, and I weight train 4x a week, I had my lips filled with 1cc HA, 3 different times at about a year apart. Then I waited a year and a half for it to dissolve. I had to go in 3 different appointments last fall to dissolve the migrated filler in my upper lip. I still have filler left but my lips finally look natural. Over those 3 years my lips kept getting more "ducky" and my injectors just kept trying to balance them with more filler. If you have filler that doesn't look how you want it to, go ahead and get it dissolved, you'll be glad. Overall 5 years of lifting with bulking, cutting, and body recomping changed my waist and booty but definitely didn't change my filler situation.
Yes. They say if your doing high cardio itll dissolve faster. Its a metabolism thing i think.
I had my lips done for the very first time, i had 1ml put in divided between my top and bottom lip, I specifically told the injector I wanted height at the outer edges of my vermillion and didn't want to have that weird ledge look where the filler is outside the vermillion border... I have medium sized lips already and my bottom and top are a good ratio. I've seen this injectors work on multiple other women and it looked good, but she botched mine and I'm not sure why?! Is bad injection technique also a culprit?
Can’t always blame the injector. Anatomy does play a role.
Thank you! I thought that the fillers absorbed after like a year the most, I didn’t know that it needed to be disolved
can this happen with filler in the nose.? I feel like the filler migrated to the lower part of my nose...it just seems bigger than usual
Same here. I’ve just had my nose filler dissolved on my bridge. It has dissolved considerably. And question If my nose looks flatter than before.
biggest mistake i ever made was getting nose filler !
Thanks for the info! Which filler would you recommend for thin m-shaped lips? I had 0.55 ml Juvederm injected 2 months ago but I am not sure I'm happy with it as I got the feeling that my lips look different every day. I can also already see some migration. Would you recommend getting the filler dissolved and going for a different product?
You would do best with a thin filler at first. Then moving your way up. It’s entirely up to you. If you’re not satisfied l, you have the right to look around
Last time i had fillers was over 2 years ago, but still i have full lips, but the only thing I feel it’s more full on the middle overlip and goes more down on the side, should I go to fix it or should I live it like how it is?
Yolo it
I just watched 10 minutes of something i dont give a shit about just because the guy is attractive. Social distancing is turning me into a creep ...
😂 Thanks for sharing!
@@danestheticsmedical omg ... 💀 i'm so sorry 😂😂
I wish I knew about the frequency of getting filler I got my first half syringe in September 2020 then a syringe in March 2021 and then another syringe in august 2021. I feel like my filler is spreading to the outside corners of my mouth I hate having to think about getting them completely dissolved and then completely starting over when I finally got the size I wanted
So thankful! I am 58 and never had and lip fillers. However, now I have some knowledge.
What do you mean by "dissolving" the filler? Waiting for naturally to be resorbed or using hyaluronidase?
So then why to remove filler if you can’t fit anymore filler if you eventually want more ?
You mean desolve it and then do the same thing over again ? Even though you know it’s not going to be enough again ?
Why not just keep it as it is ?
Would you recommend getting fillers dissolved even if I only get them once a year/1.5 years?
Yes
That's what I did. Usually 0.5 mil every 12-18 months and I ended up with migration.
@@onataka2506 Really? was it after your first try?
@@onataka2506 how does it get all the filler that migrated?
@@onataka2506 did you inject in vermillion border? Also which filler was used
Is juvederm xc or the ultra on the more thick side? I’m supposed to get injections for the first time next month and I’m terrified I picked the wrong one or the wrong place and my lips are going to be ruined.
Ist teoxane a thin filler?
Can massaging the lips each day prevent spread? Just gently with your finger tips to push the migration?
It’s never been proven
I have a question. Im new to filler, & some ppl say that it takes like 2 yrs for u to get ghe results u want. They build..shape..build...shape...& slowly get the shape u want. How can u disolve it in the middle of shaping when the final outcome/look isnt achieved yet?
Also, is it better to go to ppl who will give u 1ml, 2x in a matter of 4 months, or someone who slowly builds to prefered shape within a matter of 2 yrs? (Some ppl dont talk about shaping it & it taking time, they just talk about seeing u every month or so for more in a short time)
Good advice , Nice Vibes ;Dan friend thank you, From Dr Mohammad Samara, San Diego California
I love every video you post! The way you explain, clear, precise and easy to understand. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and techniques. Do you have any video BOTOX lip flip? Thanks!