Happy to see you got one back. I still have mine sitting NIB next to my NIB RC10 re re. As far as paint, do what makes you smile the most. When I eventually build mine, I plan on getting a painter to do the later Masami colors (the green and pinks) on mine.
XL was an evolution on the swb - basically the same but 25mm longer. Was supplied with a front spool with oneways although a front diff was an option. Moulded CAT bumper appeared midway through production run. XLS saw a 10mm increase in track, a wider steering rack, a higher rear roll centre and increased front castor through different shock towers. My vintage racer is an XL.
Hi Glenn, if I had a CAT in my collection I would just have to have it in Masami colours, but I know you’ve done them before. I guess for me, Masami is just such a huge part of that car and indeed that era of rc. He was an enigma, a few of the guys I race with in Australia were at the 1989 worlds in Australia and some of the tales were a lot of fun. Apparently Masami and his father sprinkled baby powder on the tires of their cars whilst the cars were on the grid. This obviously created a huge tidal wave of conversation amongst all the other drivers and teams thinking that somehow Masami was using the baby powder for grip to get an advantage. Before long every other team were rushing to the supermarket finding the exact brand of baby powder and sprinkling it on all their tires! The joke was on everyone else of course as the baby powder was a red herring, a distraction that got everyone focusing on baby powder whilst Masami cruised to victory in both 2WD and 4WD. I’m sure Masami and his Father had a good old chuckle about that one.
Schumacher!!! The ONE buggy I wish I NEVER SOLD right up there with my Original JRX2.....Schumacher Cougar, that thing was a SPACESHIP when it was first released. Man this channel ROCKS!
Nice car Glenn. I believe the XLS was a minor evolution of the XL. The XLS had a slightly wider track, one way bearings in the front, a front sway bar and of course those chrome wheels! 👍
I remember being at a bmx track as a kid and seeing one of these running about.. Me and my friends from that moment on realised our Tamiya cars were slow.. I was lucky enough to speak to Robin S a while back what a lovely guy, very knowledgeable and helpful. Lots of things like the Ansmann rat etc.. came to the market which gave you performance and handling of cars in the 300 - 400 price range. Brilliant trip down memory lane, and those of us that cannot afford these amazing game changing cars.. at least we can get one of the copies and still have some fun. Wishing the whole time it was really one of these...
Nice to see you have a Cat XLS in your personal collection. For me they are a bit of a love hate car. When mine runs it’s great, handles amazing for its age really smooth and quick, it’s a real pain to setup and keep in the right window. The Nov 1986 RCMC magazine has a turbo optima with a rising sun themed shell on the front cover. I was so close to paining my XLS in a similar way as a nod to Masami. My daughter convinced me to go box art and now I wish I had gone with my gut.
I bought the original CAT (SWB) back when they first became available at my local hobby shop here in America. I still have the car and I've become a huge fan of the simple white box-art livery for that car. Anyway, a year later I also bought the XL then upgraded that car to XLS spec's when the parts became available. I still have both cars and I've added the Masami re-re when it was released a few years ago and replaced all its FRP plates with carbon. The Schumacher CAT is very near the top on my list of great RC's of all time.
Glenn you need to run it at least once. They are so good and drive absolutely brilliant. A car which wouldn't be discraced even among alot of today's cars.
Gasteros plating near swadlingcote do plating kits for plastic, so if you want chrome looking stuff or want to anodise things.. really cool, i have a kit on the way!! I ended up with a Baja 5 flux because of the Hotshot ii having such a visual impact on me as a kid.. RC cars got me into engineering and are a brilliant gateway for us and our kids into a very fun and interesting hobby! love your passion dude.. looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
The xl was a long wheelbase of the short car ie still narrow track. The xls was a further development being long wheelbase and maximum track width along with one way front shafts and the wider track centre steering link. Rear upper arm position was also lowered from swb/xl to the xls.
It's such an awesome car. For me the original masami livery I'd the thing, but I can understand when you had it two times before that you want to try something else. It's a though choice to do of the two others, they both looks pretty cool. Looking forward to see what you go for, and how the fat cat body turns out.
Excellent video can't wait to see the finished buggy👍 you must be a glutton for punishment building a second cat xls😲 one was enough for me! I would go for the original cat xls boxart definitely looks retro!
Pepsi livery holds a connection to my Rc past raced a Pepsi mid during the 80’s at my local track in the uk. Due to this I snapped up a Pepsi cat XLS of the bay a while back. If you need Piccys for inspiration give me a shout glen merry crimbo
I like the Masami for the body it comes with and then the Pepsi decals for the fat cat body. I like the first set of the more period correct decals for it and maybe some red and blue stripes kind of offset down the middle of the car would be cool.
I went from a Tamiya Hornet to a second hand Schumacher cat, didn't have a clue how to set it up so I traded it for something else. Had a nitro 10 at one point too.
Personally, I like the CAT XLS Masami box art, it looks awesome. I've had a thought, what about doing a Tamiya TRF design for the bodyshell? I bet nobody has done that before ;) Glad you got another Cat XLS, you looked so pleased to get one!!
I got one when i heard they were ending production. I was working away from home so i had it delivered to my parents and didn't see it for 3 months. When i got it and heard about the prices they were pulling, i got too scared to build it. I've never bought an RC as an investment but i think this is the kit to keep in the box.
You've already done it in Masami, the original XLs is similar, your only option left is SWB. SWB artwork with chrome rims and the pro transmission is a no-brainer.
Glenn, I thought the XL was the conversion from shortie to long. And yes, I’m a much bigger Schumacher fan than Tamiya, but it’s all toy cars, so all are good😃 Also, RIP Dan 😥
Or you could have the body painted professionally in the more recent Masami colors like he did with his personal re-release CAT. You can check it out on the Masaaki YT channel, looks super sick.
Few facts for you mate The only differences from the swb to the xl is the longer chassis & body set. the wide track suspension & front diff only came out on the xls, Schumacher also changed their shocks from 1 o-ring to 2 o-rings at this time as well although the outer shock body design stayed the same The swb decals from mci are not the correct decals, in fact the swb didn't actually come with a decal sheet, it only came with a few Schumacher logo stickers, the box art design was a 1 off design done for the boxart pictures & although the mci decals are part right they are not 100% correct, the colours in the stripes are wrong & they have missed out certain lines that are very hard to see, i know this as i wanted to paint my swb correctly so i spent months talking to Schumacher & friends on the internet, a good friend of mine sent me a picture of Cecil Schumacher holding the original car & the stripes on the top of the car are very different to what mci think they are & what nearly every car i have seen done in this design, there is also a hidden decal in front of the window & the words CAT is above each of the number 1 logos on the sides So saying all that i believe i have the only correctly painted boxart swb in the world which being a massive Schumacher fan is very cool, if you want to see pics of the shell mate i can email them to you, as always my shell is all paint with no stickers & the stripes were a real challenge to paint as two of the lines are 0.6mm thick! Regards Gainsy
Fat cat bodyshell is indeed parma originally.. and the fat cat shell, does not fit the standard or original cat undertray. Penguin in the uk makes the undertray. Good luck with the build
Hi Glen if you go for the original cat xls don't use the red, yellow decals as it's no where near as nice as the full paint job. The white original version is the short wheel base and the red and blue decals work fine but remember there for the swb body not the lwb so it might not look as cool as the original. Heath...
There’s some very good info about the different CAT versions in this Iconic RC video: ruclips.net/video/ptFSCJOgh8o/видео.html The relevant part starts at 07:20.
Option 2 but metallic black, yellow and red to really make it pop. Not a fan of the Fat Cat at all; it turns a sleek, super stealth machine into an overweight pig. Would love to see this run a few times as well just to remind us how brilliant they are and why they were the weapon of choice bitd.
I’ve got an fully original CAT XL with classic black wheels, it’s a great car. Would love to get a original SWB! Do you have a PB Mini mustang or Maxima in your collection?
Re the differences between the XL and XLS, from memory I seem to recall the XLS was basically an XL but built to Massami Hirosaka specs wider front track, Chrome Wheels etc. Back in the day Radio Control Model Cars Magazine did an article on how to upgrade your CAT XL to XLS specs, I’ve still got all my RC magazines if I get chance I’ll try to find the article.
@@TAMIYALegends I can remember going into my local model shop in the 80’s with my parents and asking inquisitively for the “deal price” on a PB Mustang X3 (1/8th nitro buggy) which was in the shop window… upon hearing the price my parents quickly dragged me out of the shop… I got a Mardave Marauder instead :)
@@TAMIYALegends You can probably guess which channel I was watching. LOL. I mean, Tamiya kits are easy to build. Kyosho are easy to build. Vanquish kits are really easy to build. I have built many other kits too. Some not that east to build. Thoughts?
Hey Glenn, no cancel culture here, friends can disagree. :-) I think you should do a new body scheme entirely, and I don't like the Fat CAT body. As for the CAT itself, hmmm, didn't buy one when they were available. Some days wish I had, others glad I didn't. Some options were silly money prices and now even more silly. This kit now nearly being double what it was silly as well but hey people will pay. Don't get me wrong, It looks amazing and is the definition of iconic but things like a bad build process, finicky design, piano wire instead of hinge pins, and silly prices will keep me away. I'll save for the re-release of the Kyosho Optima Mid instead unless Schumacher re-release another variant. Still looking forward to see what you do with it though.
Glenn , buddy ,for gosh sake , quite with the box art crap. NO MORE BOX ART!!! Since you have chrome wheels coming , how about pearl white with two tone blue inserts like your optima you just finished. Or perhaps mci custom colored xls decals.. Take a risk. Love your stuff. Keep it up.
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👇I agree with Jon Masami box art with chrome wheels all day. Can't wait for this build going to be awesome.
Happy to see you got one back. I still have mine sitting NIB next to my NIB RC10 re re. As far as paint, do what makes you smile the most. When I eventually build mine, I plan on getting a painter to do the later Masami colors (the green and pinks) on mine.
XL was an evolution on the swb - basically the same but 25mm longer. Was supplied with a front spool with oneways although a front diff was an option. Moulded CAT bumper appeared midway through production run. XLS saw a 10mm increase in track, a wider steering rack, a higher rear roll centre and increased front castor through different shock towers. My vintage racer is an XL.
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Loved the Schumacher cars always wanted one when I was younger. For me it would have to be the Masami box art, just love the way it looks.
Hi Glenn, if I had a CAT in my collection I would just have to have it in Masami colours, but I know you’ve done them before. I guess for me, Masami is just such a huge part of that car and indeed that era of rc. He was an enigma, a few of the guys I race with in Australia were at the 1989 worlds in Australia and some of the tales were a lot of fun. Apparently Masami and his father sprinkled baby powder on the tires of their cars whilst the cars were on the grid. This obviously created a huge tidal wave of conversation amongst all the other drivers and teams thinking that somehow Masami was using the baby powder for grip to get an advantage. Before long every other team were rushing to the supermarket finding the exact brand of baby powder and sprinkling it on all their tires! The joke was on everyone else of course as the baby powder was a red herring, a distraction that got everyone focusing on baby powder whilst Masami cruised to victory in both 2WD and 4WD. I’m sure Masami and his Father had a good old chuckle about that one.
What a fantastic post this is 😍😍😍
Brilliant video and that box art is pretty tasty. Its a nice looking car too. Looking forward to seeing the final build. Brilliant!!😃👍👍
Ooh very nice, would love to have one of these stunners, never had a Schumacher / Kyosho only Tamiya -Nikko and Tandy lol
Schumacher!!! The ONE buggy I wish I NEVER SOLD right up there with my Original JRX2.....Schumacher Cougar, that thing was a SPACESHIP when it was first released. Man this channel ROCKS!
Nice car Glenn. I believe the XLS was a minor evolution of the XL. The XLS had a slightly wider track, one way bearings in the front, a front sway bar and of course those chrome wheels! 👍
I remember being at a bmx track as a kid and seeing one of these running about.. Me and my friends from that moment on realised our Tamiya cars were slow.. I was lucky enough to speak to Robin S a while back what a lovely guy, very knowledgeable and helpful. Lots of things like the Ansmann rat etc.. came to the market which gave you performance and handling of cars in the 300 - 400 price range. Brilliant trip down memory lane, and those of us that cannot afford these amazing game changing cars.. at least we can get one of the copies and still have some fun. Wishing the whole time it was really one of these...
Nice to see you have a Cat XLS in your personal collection. For me they are a bit of a love hate car. When mine runs it’s great, handles amazing for its age really smooth and quick, it’s a real pain to setup and keep in the right window.
The Nov 1986 RCMC magazine has a turbo optima with a rising sun themed shell on the front cover. I was so close to paining my XLS in a similar way as a nod to Masami. My daughter convinced me to go box art and now I wish I had gone with my gut.
I bought the original CAT (SWB) back when they first became available at my local hobby shop here in America. I still have the car and I've become a huge fan of the simple white box-art livery for that car. Anyway, a year later I also bought the XL then upgraded that car to XLS spec's when the parts became available. I still have both cars and I've added the Masami re-re when it was released a few years ago and replaced all its FRP plates with carbon. The Schumacher CAT is very near the top on my list of great RC's of all time.
Glenn you need to run it at least once. They are so good and drive absolutely brilliant. A car which wouldn't be discraced even among alot of today's cars.
Schumacher's are so cool👍
Love it bud! What a fantastic car...have become a huge Schumi fan. Really hope they re-re something else vintage for us soon.
Fantastic Glen. Another great kit from back then.. no contest for me it must be the original XLS. So aspirational that thing was back in the day
Love the look of this buggy, remember seeing it in the magazines years ago.
Gasteros plating near swadlingcote do plating kits for plastic, so if you want chrome looking stuff or want to anodise things.. really cool, i have a kit on the way!! I ended up with a Baja 5 flux because of the Hotshot ii having such a visual impact on me as a kid.. RC cars got me into engineering and are a brilliant gateway for us and our kids into a very fun and interesting hobby! love your passion dude.. looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
Glenn it absolutely has to be the masami colours,it has to be the best colour scheme I've seen on any CAT ever....just works so well
Look forward to whatever you decide on.
Kevin schwants Pepsi suzuki 👍the early Pepsi decals.... the 1st set on your video.
Love it mate.
Another great video Glenn 🔥
Thanks for the link, just ordered me one.
MASAMI box art for me Glen. But ethereal I'm sure what ever you do will turn out great !
I like the first set of the Pepsi decals and the last option on the xls🥰
Go pepsi.. very retro... reminds me of Kevin Schwartz on the 500 two stroke Suzuki in the late 80s.👍🇬🇧😎
Awesome drive buddy!!
The xl was a long wheelbase of the short car ie still narrow track. The xls was a further development being long wheelbase and maximum track width along with one way front shafts and the wider track centre steering link. Rear upper arm position was also lowered from swb/xl to the xls.
Two tone black and white with the early 80s Pepsi decals on the white and the later on the black. Just a thought but that's what I would go with.
Top cars the Schumacher's this looks awesome Glenn.. great to see it on the channel along with the Kyosho :)
Great buggy, mine departed with the top cat kit with too many builds ongoing. Enjoy the build buddy!
It's such an awesome car. For me the original masami livery I'd the thing, but I can understand when you had it two times before that you want to try something else. It's a though choice to do of the two others, they both looks pretty cool. Looking forward to see what you go for, and how the fat cat body turns out.
Excellent video can't wait to see the finished buggy👍 you must be a glutton for punishment building a second cat xls😲 one was enough for me! I would go for the original cat xls boxart definitely looks retro!
Pepsi livery holds a connection to my Rc past raced a Pepsi mid during the 80’s at my local track in the uk. Due to this I snapped up a Pepsi cat XLS of the bay a while back. If you need Piccys for inspiration give me a shout glen merry crimbo
I’ve been wanting that XLS rerelease since it came out. Funny, I’ve done at least 4-5 Pepsi liveries on a few RC10s and a Scorpion rerelease.
Keep the Fat Cat body clear add the Pepsi decals for a Pepsi clear soda pop body 😀😀 That is a awesome car love seeing it on the channel
It’s always going to be box art for me.but what ever you decide will look great 👍😃
I like the Masami for the body it comes with and then the Pepsi decals for the fat cat body. I like the first set of the more period correct decals for it and maybe some red and blue stripes kind of offset down the middle of the car would be cool.
I went from a Tamiya Hornet to a second hand Schumacher cat, didn't have a clue how to set it up so I traded it for something else. Had a nitro 10 at one point too.
Looks great
Box art for me. Love this car!
Pepsi is a good idea for the fat cat. Or a nice green 7up
Nice car Glenn!
I like the masami box art best for the standard body. Maybe a two tone blue and white scheme for the fatcat with a combo of the two Pepsi decal sets x
Personally, I like the CAT XLS Masami box art, it looks awesome. I've had a thought, what about doing a Tamiya TRF design for the bodyshell? I bet nobody has done that before ;) Glad you got another Cat XLS, you looked so pleased to get one!!
Nice buggy 👍👍
I got one when i heard they were ending production. I was working away from home so i had it delivered to my parents and didn't see it for 3 months. When i got it and heard about the prices they were pulling, i got too scared to build it. I've never bought an RC as an investment but i think this is the kit to keep in the box.
Hiya, there’s a lot of Masami replicas so personally I’d go for the SWB livery, looks very cool
You've already done it in Masami, the original XLs is similar, your only option left is SWB. SWB artwork with chrome rims and the pro transmission is a no-brainer.
You could create a poll on Facebook. I've always wanted to do a Pepsi sponsored buggy too since I saw a Terra Scorcher with Pepsi logos on it.
That's weird, I'm building one now!
OOoo!! My favourite RC Car Glenn. Please see my full option Masami mate!!
I remember when it came out, it made my hotshot seem like a toy....lol.
Glenn, I thought the XL was the conversion from shortie to long.
And yes, I’m a much bigger Schumacher fan than Tamiya, but it’s all toy cars, so all are good😃
Also, RIP Dan 😥
SWB livery and the Pepsi livery.
Do it! 😉👍
martini livery maybe Glenn 😎👊👌🔥🔥🔥
sweet car
Or you could have the body painted professionally in the more recent Masami colors like he did with his personal re-release CAT. You can check it out on the Masaaki YT channel, looks super sick.
Daniel's car is stunning. I need to know where he got those wheels mate!!
Few facts for you mate
The only differences from the swb to the xl is the longer chassis & body set. the wide track suspension & front diff only came out on the xls, Schumacher also changed their shocks from 1 o-ring to 2 o-rings at this time as well although the outer shock body design stayed the same
The swb decals from mci are not the correct decals, in fact the swb didn't actually come with a decal sheet, it only came with a few Schumacher logo stickers, the box art design was a 1 off design done for the boxart pictures & although the mci decals are part right they are not 100% correct, the colours in the stripes are wrong & they have missed out certain lines that are very hard to see, i know this as i wanted to paint my swb correctly so i spent months talking to Schumacher & friends on the internet, a good friend of mine sent me a picture of Cecil Schumacher holding the original car & the stripes on the top of the car are very different to what mci think they are & what nearly every car i have seen done in this design, there is also a hidden decal in front of the window & the words CAT is above each of the number 1 logos on the sides
So saying all that i believe i have the only correctly painted boxart swb in the world which being a massive Schumacher fan is very cool, if you want to see pics of the shell mate i can email them to you, as always my shell is all paint with no stickers & the stripes were a real challenge to paint as two of the lines are 0.6mm thick!
Regards
Gainsy
Outstanding information my friend 🤩🤩🤩
It would be great if you could post those pics on the Tamiya Legends facebook page.....
@@The_Absurdistt i have sent the pics to Glenn at Tamiya Legends so if he wants to post up the pics of my cat he has my full permission
What about some black & red like the Ninja?!? I know I say that every time 😄
Fat cat bodyshell is indeed parma originally.. and the fat cat shell, does not fit the standard or original cat undertray. Penguin in the uk makes the undertray. Good luck with the build
I’m liking the fatcat idea with the same design but in the yellow, red and black?
Get the spoked wheels Glenn!!
White with the red & blue decals for me. Black, red & yellow are too much like a RL club I don’t like 😂
Go Box Art 👊🏻👍🏻
Masami box art for me.
Isn't that a bit of blasphemy, a Schumacher on the Tamiya Legends show... I like it.
Hi Glen if you go for the original cat xls don't use the red, yellow decals as it's no where near as nice as the full paint job. The white original version is the short wheel base and the red and blue decals work fine but remember there for the swb body not the lwb so it might not look as cool as the original. Heath...
Im thinking go for the massami paint colours for the standard body and Pepsi for the fat cat.
There’s some very good info about the different CAT versions in this Iconic RC video: ruclips.net/video/ptFSCJOgh8o/видео.html The relevant part starts at 07:20.
I love Pepsi inspired products, but why not make a modern twist, so a Pepsi Max paint job, but use Chrome paints so chrome Red chrome Blue etc 🤔
Option 2 but metallic black, yellow and red to really make it pop. Not a fan of the Fat Cat at all; it turns a sleek, super stealth machine into an overweight pig.
Would love to see this run a few times as well just to remind us how brilliant they are and why they were the weapon of choice bitd.
Love this car, it's a legend for sure, but I'm not a fan of the fat cat shell. I think that you will make an absolutely stunning car.
I’ve got an fully original CAT XL with classic black wheels, it’s a great car. Would love to get a original SWB!
Do you have a PB Mini mustang or Maxima in your collection?
Re the differences between the XL and XLS, from memory I seem to recall the XLS was basically an XL but built to Massami Hirosaka specs wider front track, Chrome Wheels etc.
Back in the day Radio Control Model Cars Magazine did an article on how to upgrade your CAT XL to XLS specs, I’ve still got all my RC magazines if I get chance I’ll try to find the article.
No unfortunately no PB’s in the collection 😫😫😫
@@TAMIYALegends I can remember going into my local model shop in the 80’s with my parents and asking inquisitively for the “deal price” on a PB Mustang X3 (1/8th nitro buggy) which was in the shop window… upon hearing the price my parents quickly dragged me out of the shop… I got a Mardave Marauder instead :)
I'm still waiting for a rere Pro cat
I do not have any Schumacher kits. I have heard they are not easy to build. Thoughts?
All depends which YT channel you watch I guess lol 😂
I really enjoyed the build, it’s no Tamiya but still extremely enjoyable 😎👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends You can probably guess which channel I was watching. LOL. I mean, Tamiya kits are easy to build. Kyosho are easy to build. Vanquish kits are really easy to build. I have built many other kits too. Some not that east to build. Thoughts?
The German flag style design looks way way better tbh
Corr!
Did you sell your other one you know that I'm not making these anymore.
Masami on standard body, old-school Pepsi on fat cat
You need to contact Iain Groom from Mazzoom models for all the fat cat details.
Hey Glenn, no cancel culture here, friends can disagree. :-) I think you should do a new body scheme entirely, and I don't like the Fat CAT body. As for the CAT itself, hmmm, didn't buy one when they were available. Some days wish I had, others glad I didn't. Some options were silly money prices and now even more silly. This kit now nearly being double what it was silly as well but hey people will pay. Don't get me wrong, It looks amazing and is the definition of iconic but things like a bad build process, finicky design, piano wire instead of hinge pins, and silly prices will keep me away. I'll save for the re-release of the Kyosho Optima Mid instead unless Schumacher re-release another variant. Still looking forward to see what you do with it though.
Box art for me, or it's not a masami
Glenn , buddy ,for gosh sake , quite with the box art crap. NO MORE BOX ART!!! Since you have chrome wheels coming , how about pearl white with two tone blue inserts like your optima you just finished. Or perhaps mci custom colored xls decals.. Take a risk. Love your stuff. Keep it up.
Awesome car, in my opinion, with it being a Masami Replica, it needs to go box art. The other options look far too dated in all honesty.