Wow.. that was super weird.. 10 mins in i finally decided to read through the comments.. and straight like clock work..the video happen to line up perfectly... as just when the video verbally began stating the same identical quote, written exactly in the comment as I read...making it as if I was reading along with a narrator. Or as if the words were being pulled from my mind and appearing before my eyes.. in perfect synchronization...reading it exactly... from start to finish.. Moment to Moment..Word for Word.. Verbatim.. 😳🤯🤔
@@dubstepXpower It’s not just fun, but necessary. If it was a more accepted role in society, then perhaps many major human catastrophes could have been avoided. The 2008 financial crisis is a recent one.
You've misattributed to Aristotle, the quote: "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." The quote has merit, but Aristotle never said anything like this. If you look up the nearest thing to this quote in Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, book one (1094b23-25), you will see that the actual quote is (loosely translated) "It is the mark of an educated mind to rest satisfied with the degree of precision which the nature of the subject admits and not to seek exactness where only an approximation is possible." We rely on Khan for clarity, accuracy and quality education. Please don't let us down.
the quote you reference actually allows inexactness. to "not seek exactness". You are requesting exactness in this case. I agree that the misquoted text is far removed from the apparent original thought.
bear in mind that, while Aristotle may have been a student at Plato's academy, he was exactly the opposite of him in terms of philosophy, to such the extent that, despite being a prodegy and the very best srudent, he was refused Plato's position after his death because he didn't believe in his "forms". While the academy spent all it's time constructing geometric proofs on what an ideal chair would be, the Lyceum would actually look at, and document particular qualities of good chairs.
The Socratic Method was one of the most controversial-Socrates used to go out into the market-space and ask a random stranger about their theory about ethical issues, such as lying. Often, he turned conventional ideas upside down-a charge that was phrased as angering the goods (or not believing in them) in his death sentence -by- poisin.
It's not that none of the Socrates writings survived, he did not write anything in the first place. In fact, he believed writing books was wrong because it makes people not practice their memory and thinking capability in general and also because he thought knowledge is always better gained through dialogue. Plato did write book, but he still only wrote dialogues (staring Socrates) out of respect for his teacher.
Was So (social) crates (rule) a character that Plato (broad-shouldered) used in plays? I am sure that his audience was intellectually stimulated. A playwright could make some coin if he was good like Plato. I would be his disciple and set at his feet to learn what he knows. Jesus made money teaching others, also. Socrates and Jesus have much in common. The Greeks did write the Bible. Learning is fun! (Joh 12:20) And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:
Mr. Khan you emphasised aristotle quote"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." as seeding for modern rationalism. but as an indian you should also should of mentioned that Thiruvallur In "Thirukural " said "epporul yaar yaar vai ketpin aporul mei porul kanpadhu arivu" meaning whatever may be the source of any information,knowledge is to extract and assimilate truth in it"
Some of them were truly progressive, trying to uncover the objective material truths, others were deeply reactionary, obscuring reality to an idealist obsession of the immaterial "ideal" . A tradition picked up by the church, effectively setting back the course of history for 100s of years.
"In a time when democracy was flourishing. He (Socrates) was skeptical of pure democracy. He was worried, well what if the people voting weren't educated to make the right decisions. " I lived to see this problem and its consequence in 2016-2020 :) (and I think there were many examples before and will be examples after).
"maybe they can be manipulated by a demagogue, someone who tells them exactly what they want to hear." perfectly sums up today's US political system, we need more gadflys in the world
When Socrates was told to choose his own punishment he said he wanted lifelong free meals because he argued that he was a gift for the athenians. His choice was unsurprisingly rejected and shortly after that a fine was proposed (just 100 drachmae, stressing out how poor philosophers are). His students wanted initially to pay a larger fine fine but it got rejected and Socrates accepted to drink the poison.
@@doanhoangvan5009 Right, but 1000 years later (so very likelly, pythagoreans were based on eastern phylosophy - something European history would preffer to deny of course).
Please can you do a couple videos on mechanical engineering it's a field I'm very interested in as a career but I'm not to sure and I can't find any good videos about it thanks in advance :)
curious how aristotle is considered "rational" thinker in philosophy. Whereas in college physics the class openly laugh at Aristotle and his "armchair" approach to understanding the world. Most famous is his idea of why a thrown stone continues to move after it has left the hand. He hypothesised the air gets pushed away and moves in behind the object and somehow this swirling air must continue to impel the stone. Like most ancients Aristotle took for granted a kind of absolute state of rest associated with the earth. Unfortunately Aristotle didnt bother to test his idea practically . Also there is a logic failure on various levels. For example in thin air the stone would not get impelled and thus in thick air or water the stone should get more fluid impulsion contrary to everyday experience of difficulty of throwing a stone through water. Also when one rushes through the air one feels the air trying to resist the motion rather than encouraging it. The aristotle physics fails on so many levels. Amazing how long it took until Galileo and so on began to think things through clearly. Does not the horrendous fails of the greeks in physics also throw into question all their other areas of philosophy?
You think that's what should make us question Greek philosophy? Not the fact that Plato actually believed that politics should be dictated by a group of politically and militarily inexperienced philosophers?
sorry Khan Academy, from my childhood I heard and learnt the same about these 3 philosophers, their time, pupils and Alexander, but I am looking for what is their view about life, philosophy.
Well. It's a bit of a stretch. Pyhtagoras was (supposedly) in Egypt and received some education on mathematics, which was then perfected by the Pythagoreans. Decades later Plato while still perfecting his theory of the forms (idee) absorbed many of the teaching of the pythagoreans into his school of thought for example the divinity of numbers - especially numbers 4 and 10 and mathematics as the proof that humans have a "transcendent" intellectual ability (which he called an "intuition") to perceive the forms as they really are. Then Aristotle also falls back on mathematics as the "Science of definite answers". Also Aristotle and Plato had got their share of inspiration from the Ionian Greeks of the schools of Ephesus and Miletus - the so called "Physicist". Xenophanes (from Colophon) idea of a transcendent "One/God" that was improved by Parmenides, Zeno of Italian greek colony of Elea (Eleatic school). Empedokles idea of a "binding principles" that he called "love and strife". And the atomists like Democritus and Leuccipus. So the egyptian influence was really not that big in the grand scheme of things.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
I love that quote, almost forgot about it.
Marcel Müller Thats a great
quote and why it's fun to play devil's advocate.
ive never been able to forget it, it comes up all the time theses days
It's a good quote...except Aristotle didn't say it. It's misattributed to him, but if you look up the actual quote, it's nothing at all like this.
Wow.. that was super weird..
10 mins in i finally decided to read through the comments.. and straight like clock work..the video happen to line up perfectly... as just when the video verbally began stating the same identical quote, written exactly in the comment as I read...making it as if I was reading along with a narrator. Or as if the words were being pulled from my mind and appearing before my eyes.. in perfect synchronization...reading it exactly... from start to finish.. Moment to Moment..Word for Word.. Verbatim.. 😳🤯🤔
@@dubstepXpower It’s not just fun, but necessary. If it was a more accepted role in society, then perhaps many major human catastrophes could have been avoided. The 2008 financial crisis is a recent one.
"Places of learning have become known as academies - just like Khan academy"
We have come full circle
I had a big grin when he said that haha
How can anyone dislike this lecture? It is a very succinct introduction to three of the greatest thinkers to have ever lived.
You've misattributed to Aristotle, the quote: "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." The quote has merit, but Aristotle never said anything like this. If you look up the nearest thing to this quote in Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, book one (1094b23-25), you will see that the actual quote is (loosely translated) "It is the mark of an educated mind to rest satisfied with the degree of precision which the nature of the subject admits and not to seek exactness where only an approximation is possible."
We rely on Khan for clarity, accuracy and quality education. Please don't let us down.
the quote you reference actually allows inexactness. to "not seek exactness". You are requesting exactness in this case. I agree that the misquoted text is far removed from the apparent original thought.
Thank you so much for this lesson!
bear in mind that, while Aristotle may have been a student at Plato's academy, he was exactly the opposite of him in terms of philosophy, to such the extent that, despite being a prodegy and the very best srudent, he was refused Plato's position after his death because he didn't believe in his "forms".
While the academy spent all it's time constructing geometric proofs on what an ideal chair would be, the Lyceum would actually look at, and document particular qualities of good chairs.
Thanks helped a lot learning this
i love khan academy its so helpful thx khan academy
you find the greatest and most thought provoking quotes. thank you
The Socratic Method was one of the most controversial-Socrates used to go out into the market-space and ask a random stranger about their theory about ethical issues, such as lying. Often, he turned conventional ideas upside down-a charge that was phrased as angering the goods (or not believing in them) in his death sentence -by- poisin.
It's not that none of the Socrates writings survived, he did not write anything in the first place. In fact, he believed writing books was wrong because it makes people not practice their memory and thinking capability in general and also because he thought knowledge is always better gained through dialogue. Plato did write book, but he still only wrote dialogues (staring Socrates) out of respect for his teacher.
Was So (social) crates (rule) a character that Plato (broad-shouldered) used in plays? I am sure that his audience was intellectually stimulated. A playwright could make some coin if he was good like Plato. I would be his disciple and set at his feet to learn what he knows. Jesus made money teaching others, also. Socrates and Jesus have much in common. The Greeks did write the Bible. Learning is fun! (Joh 12:20) And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:
Thank you
Man, did I ever laugh out loud at 4:15 ! Good one, Sal!
Mr. Khan you emphasised aristotle quote"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." as seeding for modern rationalism.
but as an indian you should also should of mentioned
that Thiruvallur In "Thirukural " said "epporul yaar yaar vai ketpin aporul mei porul kanpadhu arivu" meaning whatever may be the source of any information,knowledge is to extract and assimilate truth in it"
Greek philosopher are really great...
Some of them were truly progressive, trying to uncover the objective material truths, others were deeply reactionary, obscuring reality to an idealist obsession of the immaterial "ideal" . A tradition picked up by the church, effectively setting back the course of history for 100s of years.
Thank you so much!!
Excellent video, content and delivery. Thank you.
Excellent video
khan academy please make videos about contributions of other civilizations in sciences
"Prawdziwa wiedza przychodzi do nas, kiedy zdajemy sobie sprawę, jak niewiele wiemy o życiu, o nas samych i otaczającym nas świecie."
Alhamdulillah ! they were beautiful people
"In a time when democracy was flourishing. He (Socrates) was skeptical of pure democracy. He was worried, well what
if the people voting weren't educated to make the right decisions. "
I lived to see this problem and its consequence in 2016-2020 :) (and I think there were many examples before and will be examples after).
So Obama ?🤣🤣😂Be educated enough to jus say that 🤷🏽♂️
Just like khan academy 🔥
I wish Socrates was my teacher. :(
he wasnt a teacher
I also..
... you wouldn't learn much.
@SGN Cuz he was pretty ignorant compared to modern teachers.
0:54 anybody hear the fly? lmao
Have a boring test tmr hope this helps
Could you make a video explaining the Cathode Ray Tube and how it works?
"maybe they can be manipulated by a demagogue, someone who tells them exactly what they want to hear."
perfectly sums up today's US political system, we need more gadflys in the world
When Socrates was told to choose his own punishment he said he wanted lifelong free meals because he argued that he was a gift for the athenians. His choice was unsurprisingly rejected and shortly after that a fine was proposed (just 100 drachmae, stressing out how poor philosophers are). His students wanted initially to pay a larger fine fine but it got rejected and Socrates accepted to drink the poison.
don´t forget the Vedas: much older, deep and detailed bodies of philosophy (the greeks were the first in the West)
In the West, there were the Pythagoreans who were more or least similar to the Vedas.
@@doanhoangvan5009 Right, but 1000 years later (so very likelly, pythagoreans were based on eastern phylosophy - something European history would preffer to deny of course).
Egypt predated and taught all of them.
Yes vedic period was quite detailed 👌
Egyptians/Phoenicians/Vedics were all precursors to the Greeks. Even many Greek philosophers went to Egypt for enlightenment.
The golden age had some of the greatest thinkers.. Buddha was born around this time too
P L A T O W A V E
anyone elses community college make this video an assingment
Me and the boys the last 10 secounds of the video
Enoch Powell, Boris Johnson true instigators of Greek history and knowledge..
Please can you do a couple videos on mechanical engineering it's a field I'm very interested in as a career but I'm not to sure and I can't find any good videos about it thanks in advance :)
fine
curious how aristotle is considered "rational" thinker in philosophy. Whereas in college physics the class openly laugh at Aristotle and his "armchair" approach to understanding the world. Most famous is his idea of why a thrown stone continues to move after it has left the hand. He hypothesised the air gets pushed away and moves in behind the object and somehow this swirling air must continue to impel the stone. Like most ancients Aristotle took for granted a kind of absolute state of rest associated with the earth. Unfortunately Aristotle didnt bother to test his idea practically . Also there is a logic failure on various levels. For example in thin air the stone would not get impelled and thus in thick air or water the stone should get more fluid impulsion contrary to everyday experience of difficulty of throwing a stone through water. Also when one rushes through the air one feels the air trying to resist the motion rather than encouraging it. The aristotle physics fails on so many levels. Amazing how long it took until Galileo and so on began to think things through clearly. Does not the horrendous fails of the greeks in physics also throw into question all their other areas of philosophy?
You think that's what should make us question Greek philosophy? Not the fact that Plato actually believed that politics should be dictated by a group of politically and militarily inexperienced philosophers?
Hey, Khan, do you know that you are in the Russian textbook? Text about you in "Starlight" on page 90. The textbook 📚 of the 8th form.
Socrates learn and study in Kemet modern Egypt>>>>
Socrates aka Khidir (as)
And no man wept when learned the fate of Socrates. Like me. My brother who am I?
World History info in brain go stonks
Socrates was far ahead of his own time. The problem was people just didn't get him 🤔
sorry Khan Academy, from my childhood I heard and learnt the same about these 3 philosophers, their time, pupils and Alexander, but I am looking for what is their view about life, philosophy.
Who noted history
Plato must be rolling in his grave at the state of American politics. Shambles
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what about Egyptian influence on Plato and Aristotle?
Well. It's a bit of a stretch.
Pyhtagoras was (supposedly) in Egypt and received some education on mathematics, which was then perfected by the Pythagoreans. Decades later Plato while still perfecting his theory of the forms (idee) absorbed many of the teaching of the pythagoreans into his school of thought for example the divinity of numbers - especially numbers 4 and 10 and mathematics as the proof that humans have a "transcendent" intellectual ability (which he called an "intuition") to perceive the forms as they really are.
Then Aristotle also falls back on mathematics as the "Science of definite answers".
Also Aristotle and Plato had got their share of inspiration from the Ionian Greeks of the schools of Ephesus and Miletus - the so called "Physicist". Xenophanes (from Colophon) idea of a transcendent "One/God" that was improved by Parmenides, Zeno of Italian greek colony of Elea (Eleatic school). Empedokles idea of a "binding principles" that he called "love and strife". And the atomists like Democritus and Leuccipus.
So the egyptian influence was really not that big in the grand scheme of things.
That's interesting. Any sources?
Edit: Also what was "wrong" ,because you are really not giving me anything to work with here.
they had nothing to do with Egypt
Greek Society
The big 3.....
The reference to demagogue and uneducated public is the situation today. Look what people did on Nov 8, 2016 in the USA!!
This doesn't get to the essence of what differentiated these philosophers from one-another.
I am the 1900th like
SOCRATES WAS A NOT A TEACHER .HE PROVED THEIR WERE NO TEACHERS
3rd
I bet your gramma wound not know what BCE means. Man! Get educated, not by reading books, but recognizing what Truth is.
Lies storis
Who else’s is here from school
nerds.
first
Im having a hard time trying to watch this, I've attempted it twice. I really want to know more about Socrates so i will focus harder !
your doing great! but it’s kinda confusing