Cut the FLUFF! | Stuff I NEVER should've cared about in archery | 18 YEARS of my mistakes!

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  • @davemiller4852
    @davemiller4852 3 года назад +40

    Excellent presentation, really refreshing to hear common sense talk over hype and ego. I made my last upgrade when I discovered my $1500 bow didnt shoot any better than my $300 bow.

  • @mrscassafrass
    @mrscassafrass Год назад +5

    This is one of the most honest and helpful archery channels on youtube

  • @tau2104
    @tau2104 3 года назад +52

    Well said Sir, I have learnt the same things over time my 38 years of shooting. I spent thousands over the years on the latest kit hoping for improvement in results. But I learnt later in life that even a modestly priced bow, shot by a shooting machine will show a high degree of consistency and repeatability. After all the bow is a machine. As the organic part of the shooting system… me in this instance, with the physical and psychological variables of a human being meant that I could never reach that shooting machine consistency. I realised the bow as a machine would always outshoot me in repeatability and performance. So spending money on the next new high performance cams, that would give me an extra few ft/sec made absolutely no real difference at all. I began to understand the main problem was with me not the equipment. So diligent, structured training, gaining experience and knowledge made the biggest contribution to my shooting and bank balance.

    • @PerceptionFPV
      @PerceptionFPV 2 года назад +2

      well said! and as a beginner i really appreciate your advice!

    • @tsz374
      @tsz374 2 года назад +2

      Its perfect Chris.
      I buy back my Pse Stinger Hp, after 7 years. I had high end bows, high end rests, etc and no more game, or more accuracy.
      A cheaper, slower, more forgiven bow bring more experience, pleasure, and, take same game.

    • @ML-ks2lj
      @ML-ks2lj Год назад

      Unless your using the trophy ridge whisker V rest. I hate that rest.

  • @austenwhelan7242
    @austenwhelan7242 2 года назад +13

    I don't understand why your channel isn't so much bigger than you deserve. Always good archery info.

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  2 года назад +3

      I appreciate that!

    • @sportbikeguy9875
      @sportbikeguy9875 Год назад +1

      because most people don't want to hear that spending more money doesn't make them a better archer. A lot of lazy people LOVE the idea that they can be better by spending more money, rather than putting in the hard work and practice hours and tuning the equipment they already have

  • @toddwalker4301
    @toddwalker4301 3 года назад +17

    Amen to everything you have said. I have switched bows about every 5 years. (Not near as often as some.) After I bought my 2015 Prime Rival I was done. It felt good and fit me. It was like finding the right woman and you stop looking for anything else. I do all my own work because I got tired of the pro shop guys shooting my bows and adjusting them to fit their shooting....dumb. Now it is tuned to precision using my own equipment.
    Great video and super points. One of the best archery vids I have seen for awhile.

  • @jobyshaw5459
    @jobyshaw5459 3 года назад +66

    Killed a fully mature buck with a 35 year old bow last year that was 44" axle to axle. You don't need new stuff. You need to get efficient with what you can afford.

    • @reaganriddle
      @reaganriddle 3 года назад +1

      To be fair it sure is easier to shoot a newer bow.

    • @reaganriddle
      @reaganriddle 3 года назад +1

      @@steveharvey6421 oh for sure. Bows are expensive. Only way I could balance that would be selling last years and going on. Possibly about to land a new bow sponsor tho, so may not have to worry about it anymore!

    • @blakerobinson1578
      @blakerobinson1578 3 года назад +1

      Absolutely bro these guys that have to buy a new compound every year. Yyyyyy would u do that even if I could afford it I still wouldn't . U DNT need it at all 😂.

    • @reaganriddle
      @reaganriddle 3 года назад

      @@blakerobinson1578 I’m probably gonna buy a new one in 2 years, shooting an elite energy 32 as of now

  • @Nick-sz6xb
    @Nick-sz6xb Год назад +2

    As someone getting back into bow hunting after being out of it for 15 years, I truly appreciate your videos and advice . This channel is awesome. Keep up the great work man.

  • @tonyisbingaman9116
    @tonyisbingaman9116 3 года назад +7

    Glad to hear the shout out about older bows. I’m Shooting a 2010 6.5 Mathews Reezen love it and don’t want a new one kills deer every year.

  • @davidbuurma9309
    @davidbuurma9309 3 года назад +22

    For me I wish I hadn’t felt the need to try every release on the market…pick one and learn it. Great video…thanks

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 года назад +3

      Oh, releases are THE WORST. Once you're in, you have to buy it. Sucks.

    • @caninphx
      @caninphx 3 года назад

      Ugh I'm in deep with releases.

  • @kennydee8296
    @kennydee8296 2 года назад

    As a finger shooter who bought my first compound in 1976 I love it that you’re talking about longer axle to axle bows with lower letoff. My favourite bow is still my Browning Explorer that I picked up in San Francisco in 1983, 60lb peak and 30% letoff 48” axle to axle that has never fouled me up in heavy country and allows a quick smooth draw for the rapid shooting on feral pigs and goats over here in Australia. Yes I would love to upgrade to something faster but the archery world has left me and my dated shooting style far behind 😉 🇦🇺

  • @TAShannon1
    @TAShannon1 3 года назад +3

    I've had 4 bows so far. I keep trying to upgrade but I always run back to my original bow, a single cam 2005 Bear Trx400. It was a gander mountain special, a budget package. I bought it for $50 at a garage sale 4 years ago. I just can't shoot anything else as accurately. Looks like I will stick with it for good!
    73lbs @ 29.5"
    304 fps
    Heavy as hell
    Stable
    Quiet
    Maintaining 1.5" accuracy at 20yds is easy. Maybe 1/10 arrows will be outside of 1.5"

  • @johngraham4795
    @johngraham4795 3 года назад +5

    Thank you Nate for speaking to what most of us deal with regularly. I'm shooting a 2008 single cam since 2011 and continue to improve grouping. This is what more people need to hear; spend more time honing your equipment instead of installing new tech. Keep it coming!

  • @donaldbailey8483
    @donaldbailey8483 2 года назад

    I love my 2005 Bowtech Diamond Liberty. I just had lower poundage limbs put on because of injury and not being able to shoot for a long time. Now getting back into archery, I am adding in traditional archery as well. Wanted to start that after I got "good enough" with my compound but I got hurt. Still learning after all this time that its best to keep it simple to your understanding. Like some are geeks about it to a fault. Just enjoy the activity. Have fun while figuring it out. Getting others that you know into it makes it so much better. Most of the community is great. Open and supportive. AND you sir, ... Need to be in front of the camera more. ESPECIALL for the {young} archery community. Your presents and tone is perfect for this. You make a great teacher.👊✌

  • @derwinharris5116
    @derwinharris5116 3 года назад +4

    Great advice! I shoot an older model hoyt that is no where near the fastest, shortest or lightest. But it is rock solid! It stays in tune and sighted in. I can pull it out and take it hunting and it performs! It is dependable! Closing in on 20 deer harvested with it. I have let it down a few times, but it has never failed me! Great video!!

  • @richarddean3154
    @richarddean3154 3 года назад +8

    I love my 2010 Matthews Drenalin LD but I retired it last year as part of my 50th birthday present. The Realm X is vastly different but I shoot it well enough to not change back. Thank you for the great content

  • @joshsinglefooter
    @joshsinglefooter 3 года назад +12

    AJA,
    Loving these No-nonsense kind of videos.

  • @billieglennbusch2189
    @billieglennbusch2189 3 года назад +1

    This is why I Sub’d years ago, best and most honest content regarding archery on RUclips.

  • @d.s.6772
    @d.s.6772 3 года назад +11

    I'm gonna forget I watched this because one of my favorite parts of bow hunting is the gear I buy and try out during the offseason. I stay within my budget and keep what I like and get rid of what doesnt suit me. That's how I learn what I like.

  • @jesseherbert2585
    @jesseherbert2585 2 года назад

    Excellent points (no pun intended). Love the Fugitive quote, I need my sons to watch that film!

  • @richyeilding4490
    @richyeilding4490 3 года назад +1

    i participated in an archery competition a few months ago. the guy who won used an old matthews solocam.

  • @yvantomac9502
    @yvantomac9502 2 года назад +1

    It's refreshing to hear and see a guy cut the bs about gear ..... so true .... instead of worrying bout the last, learn what you have and enjoy....

  • @brianrunnells3289
    @brianrunnells3289 3 года назад

    hey jack,
    I have been hunting archery for only three seasons, my wife is now going to try this season. I appreciate all you said, it is hard to stay with the simple important things. As a newbie going online for information is like an archery seizure overload. And by the way, I heard no soap box rant and i especially liked the poetic remark!! LOL .Thank you so much for the good solid advice.

  • @hotchihuahua1546
    @hotchihuahua1546 3 года назад +7

    My Mathews DXT is the last bow I will ever need , with a single pin setup from 10-25 yard lung shot it’s solid , quite , accurate and at 60 pounds & 28” draw has enough energy for my arrow to easily pass through a deer . There are many bows out there that can do the same think , my advise is keep everything solid , simple and tuned , least I forget practice , practice , practice .

    • @jodyhodge2129
      @jodyhodge2129 3 года назад

      I am still trying to shoot the capability of my Mathews Switchback. See no need to even look at another bow.

    • @timbow50
      @timbow50 3 года назад

      lol! I still have my DXT set up ready for back up. 271/2" @ 60 shooting Carnivores with Magnus Black Hornet serrated. 407 grains. Three pin sight set at 25-35-45.

  • @Flightofthearrowoutdoors
    @Flightofthearrowoutdoors 3 года назад +3

    One thing I learned over the years is don’t automatically stick to one specific brand of bow , 2017 was making a bow purchase and set on a Mathews or Prime, went to an awesome shop that let me shoot a bunch of different bows, left with a Bowtech that I still couldn’t be happier with…also agree with what you said about axle to axle

    • @patcoyable
      @patcoyable 3 года назад +1

      Very true, Gus. I'm a "hoyt guy", but I'm about to buy a vxr. Brand parenting is ridiculous. I feel the same way about people with their trucks lol

    • @Flightofthearrowoutdoors
      @Flightofthearrowoutdoors 3 года назад

      @@patcoyable for sure man, I was stubborn and stuck with Martin Archery for probably 12 years, went to Hoyt, and now a “bowtech guy” but when I get a new bow I’m shooting as many brands as I can

    • @russelllangworthy994
      @russelllangworthy994 3 года назад

      @@Flightofthearrowoutdoors Which Martin models did you have? My first 3 bows were all Martins starting in 1979.

    • @Flightofthearrowoutdoors
      @Flightofthearrowoutdoors 3 года назад

      @@russelllangworthy994 I had a Martin Jaguar youth model in the 90’s, got a handful of deer with it, then a Martin phantom, a Martin Cougar III, and the last one I had Martin Moab, got deer with all of em, the Moab had string wear issues but still have it as a back up, My dad and uncle had some traditional models in the 70’s, my dad has one of their modern recurves, switched to Hoyt and now bowtech

    • @russelllangworthy994
      @russelllangworthy994 3 года назад

      @@Flightofthearrowoutdoors Very cool. I started with a Martin Bobcat. Used that for 8 or 10 years. Then had an XI Flatliner, a Browning Ballistic Mirage, a Martin Fury, a Martin Rage and a Hoyt Carbon Extreme. I still hunt with the Browning. It's from 1994 but I shoot it better than any of the others I've had.

  • @ken244
    @ken244 3 года назад +16

    I seen a video 3 guys shooting 3D and one of them (older man) had a recurve, they all shot a rabbit at 20? but the thing most impressed me was the older man with the recurve, in an instant he just drew back and sent one flying like it was easy ...Perfect shot.

    • @rallen7660
      @rallen7660 3 года назад +1

      That's called ... practice. Becoming a master of old, second-hand equipment will pay back more than being a newbie with the latest and greatest.

    • @vikeskie
      @vikeskie 3 года назад +5

      @@rallen7660 that’s *actually* called: instinctive shooting

    • @vikeskie
      @vikeskie 3 года назад +6

      watch some of Fred Bears hunting films, you’d be amazed the things they kill with recurves.

    • @AussieArcher1234
      @AussieArcher1234 3 года назад +1

      @@vikeskie And how do you get to that point sunshine... PRACTICE lots of time, 100rds of arrows a week, muscle memory, You dont just pick up a Bow and instincts take over and your shooting X's now do you.

    • @vikeskie
      @vikeskie 3 года назад +6

      @@AussieArcher1234 no dude, i was literally letting him know what archers call that. what he described is instinctive shooting, you’re missing the point

  • @nirvana613
    @nirvana613 2 года назад

    Man I love your whole approach and thought process, honestly it's a fresh breath of air in the midst of people being super vague or not objective at all. Thanks for making such great content and sharing your knowledge !

  • @lukecoppersammy
    @lukecoppersammy 3 года назад +5

    Agreed about the axle length. So many people just have to have the shortest bow possible... then they put a 2-3 foot stabilizer on it. Nice video man

  • @pensnut08
    @pensnut08 3 года назад +2

    I always learn something from your videos.
    I am still working my way back to hunting accuracy after a year of not being able to shoot vertical bows. I had some Bohning Bolt Vanes and figured I'd try them on my arrows (my xbows didnt shoot them well). I put them on with a slight offset and they worked great. And yes, they are definitely quiter...
    ,kinda funny, my xbows like the Blazers and my verticals like the bolt vanes..
    But, I will fletch up a few with Blazers again and try them as soon as I can because it's back to the xbow for a bit.
    - Public service announcement: I have to use the xbow because of a treestand accident today. My bottom or top slipped (still not 100% sure) and the left side of my face met the tree. My glasses lens popped out at the impact. My left eye is blacker than black and swollen shut. It swelled up so fast that the gash in my eyelid didn't bleed.
    I had my HSS harness on and I was belted to the tree. It saved me from a fall to the ground. So please, please... Wear the harness and be attacned to the tree. It was my fault. I was trying to climb too much with each move up the tree and my mind was on the deer I bumped and the guy walking his dog... Not on making sure my stand was set before I made another move. God was watching out for me.. He told my guardian angel "Not yet"...
    Please be safe.

  • @GinGaotoko
    @GinGaotoko 3 года назад +2

    Absolute beginner here. I've literally only released about 5 arrows. Taking my first lesson this week before I consider purchasing my gear and these tips seem like they'll come in handy. Thanks!.

  • @henrybright8531
    @henrybright8531 2 года назад

    Im still shooting my PSE evolve from 2016. Each year I see all the new bows I think about buying one, then I take my bow in the backyard to shoot and remind myself there’s no reason to replace it at all

  • @jaredkooienga6280
    @jaredkooienga6280 3 года назад +6

    Good stuff, I've been being caught up in trying every vane on the market and every fletching pattern and 3,4 and 6 vanes, lol, im losing sleep over nothing. Just splitting hairs

  • @vincent2662
    @vincent2662 3 года назад +1

    I am glad I came across your video. I am what you would consider a "late to the game" Archery hunter. I will be 50 this year. Content like yours is so extremely valuable to folks like me who are "new" to the sport. There are many things "as you mentioned" to become sidetracked with, it can become overwhelming. In the end, I just want to shoot a bow and have fun consistently hitting stuff. Thanks again for the great content. #newsubscriber

  • @darthpatriot3166
    @darthpatriot3166 3 года назад

    Sitting in a natural ground blind wearing hunter orange hat, coat, and overalls a group of 3 does came up from behind. The wind was in my face and didn't hear them. All 3 leaped over me. The first one scared the crap out of me. The second went over and I was in disbelief and turned my head to see a third, the largest. She tasted good.
    I scouted in regular colored clothes and even stalked them in off season. I think that they just key on movement and are just overly jumpy. The first deer I ever got was on the last day of shotgun season. I was 11 hunting on my own as dad already filled his tags. They got back from town and let me know by honking their horn. It was almost dusk. Skunked and irritated I unloaded my shotgun and started for the house. I was following the cornfield along the woods and peared to my left to check a inactive small clearing at the end of the woods to find myself looking at a 6 pointer at about 15 yards. He locked on me. Wearing bright orange I slowly breach loaded a slug and didn't fully seat the round. I waited for him to look away. He did and he made the freezer.
    I never understood why bow hunters wear camouflage. Every deer I have took was no more than 30 to 40 yards.

  • @Electricianarchery
    @Electricianarchery Год назад +1

    Just purchased a bowtech solution SS. Excited to learn. Hoping 70# isn’t too much for a beginner. Might turn the limbs down to 60#. Came with a QAD and a IQ pro hunter sight.

  • @chriscrawford1718
    @chriscrawford1718 3 года назад +1

    You are exactly right about the short axle to axle hype. I shoot a PSE Bowmadness at 36 ATA, and it is still as viable today as when I bought it.

  • @indy908
    @indy908 3 года назад +4

    I’ve got more enjoyment shooting a #45 recurve than any of the lightning FPS arrow launchers I’ve shoot the past 10 years. If I could recommend anything to someone getting started, it would be shoot traditional archery.

  • @mikeymike975
    @mikeymike975 3 года назад

    Amen! I'm still shooting my Mathews Monster from 2010 and don't plan on changing up anytime soon! Great video!

  • @tylerspillane5487
    @tylerspillane5487 2 года назад

    So true. Good fundamental skills are so much more important than what bow you shoot. I switched from recurve to compound 4 years ago on a bear whitetail hunter ( I'm pretty sure it's bears first compound) I brought it to get restrung and after shooting my first 6 arrows through it a young guy at the range told his friend how good I was shooting "for that bow". Once I got my sights right and got used to the let off of a compound (only 40% on that bow) I embarrassed the hell out of the kid. Now I hunt with a bear whitetail legend but I have a coyote problem and regularly take them at around 30-40 yards in my back yard with the 45 year old bow. There have been a lot of tuning advancements since that bow came out but the majority of new tech with compounds make them easier and more comfortable to shoot and not always more accurate

  • @ZJ_Rubicon
    @ZJ_Rubicon 3 года назад +1

    I am still very new to archery hunting. I'm on about my 5th season. I am still rocking a 2008 bowtech that I bought used in probably 2015. I have been slowly upgrading it with good sight, rest, and quiver that I can transfer over to a new bow whenever I finally upgrade. Hopefully next year will be the year so I can finally get a bow that is more suitable to my size. My current bow is maxed out on both draw length(has the longest mods you can get) but is still a little too short and poundage. Also we couldn't get it to tune very well due to lack of adjustments on the bow so I need to do a little thumb squeeze to correct.

  • @68blackhawk22
    @68blackhawk22 3 года назад

    First mule deer i dropped was with a old (from the 90's) used PSE target bow, it was loud, 42" a-a and it was blue. In the desert, 55 yards, lung shot, "didn't go 20". Aluminum arrows.

  • @NikeMS11
    @NikeMS11 3 года назад +2

    This was perfect timing. I have a Bear Assault (probably 2011 or so) and it doesn’t have the bells and whistles that modern day bows have, but I shoot it well, even with a cheap set of sights, rest, and release aide. Arrows are costly and it isn’t exactly quiet. Was thinking of upgrading, but after this, maybe I’ll ipgrade the string and maybe the drop rest and keep the rest “stock”.

    • @stevesaylor5794
      @stevesaylor5794 3 года назад +1

      Love my Assault. Always find myself picking that one up to shoot and head out to the woods with. Drop rest on it, in my opinion is very worth it 👍

  • @northdakotawaterfowlersbla2358
    @northdakotawaterfowlersbla2358 3 года назад

    So many different scenarios that different fletch configurations can help with especially when it comes to fixed blades and broadhead tuning. IT DOES make a huge difference.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 Год назад

    I am just getting interested in archery in my later years. My heart wants to do traditional and Native American archery but I already have a couple of compound bows and not a lot of money.
    One of them is functional but short draw for me. I may be able to use it by drawing to my chin.
    The other is larger and probably a better fit but the string is shredded so will have to wait until I can afford a restring and fitting.
    As for release my instinct is to use the release I was born with.😇 One less bit to forget or break.
    I am trying to absorb as much information as I can and appreciate these videos.

  • @connorhart7597
    @connorhart7597 Год назад

    Big facts about the old bow. To put it into perspective, my current bows are a 1976 shakespeare x26 nacedah in green, and a lil long bow i made from a board with like a 30# draw. So yeah a 50 year old bow (trad, at least, idk bout compounds) will absolutely slay critters, big or small lol

  • @colingregory7464
    @colingregory7464 3 года назад +1

    I changed from a spread limb bow to a parallel limb a few years ago and totally failed to notice that my scores dropped off and never came back, when I eventually did pay attention I switched to an old Hoyt Podium X scores came back somewhat and I enjoy shooting it !

  • @1william89
    @1william89 3 года назад

    Completely feel this video, I felt like all the crap I was doing to try and “make my bow shoot better” actually was helping but it in fact was hindering. I changed my arrows from 440 grain arrows to 550 grain arrows, I went from 4 fletch to 3 back to 4 back to 3 now, using 4 different type of fletching. Messed with 4 different releases, tried new rests new peeps. Every time I kept messing with my setup it made my groups worse and worse.
    Really messes you up mentally when you have all this crap and still can’t get a decent group at 40yrds. Recently I went back to basics of a heavy arrows 3 fletch with a single pin and shoot at 30 to “retrain” myself in simple steps to shoot the bow 😬.

  • @michaelholmes1676
    @michaelholmes1676 3 года назад

    I hunted last year with a victory x 37 and regretfully sold it about 3 or 4 months ago, bought an echelon 39 and it took me a good while to get used too it coming from the x37. But now I've got it shooting 1" groups at 30 yards. I'll be hunting with it in a full target configuration, 24" front bar with a 12" back bar. 6oz of weight up front and 13ozs on the rear. Bow is set at 60lbs and 28.75" draw length, using a ripcord code red drop away rest, I'm able to cut my arrows down to 26.5" and am shooting a 2.5" mechanical broadhead. I've been bow hunting since I was about 15 years old and am almost 45 now. I hunt exclusively with my bow, killed 3 last fall with the victory x 37.

  • @Splitshot1
    @Splitshot1 3 года назад

    Great point on axle to axle...its about comfort and what works for you..I sometimes use my old Bear Kodiak, a mile long and kills deer just fine.

  • @CJLiveFromTheOutdoors
    @CJLiveFromTheOutdoors Год назад

    Thanks for your down-to-Earth videos. I enjoy watching them and I usually learn something! Keep it up!

  • @naphtali1237
    @naphtali1237 2 года назад

    I appreciate your knowledge and your delivery of it in a humble way. Keep up the great work Teach

  • @mountainmancaraway6431
    @mountainmancaraway6431 10 месяцев назад

    Great video, great advice. Tune the gear you have to as close to perfect as you can and practice before you give up on it in favor of buying new gear thinking that's a quick fix.

  • @limjahey3119
    @limjahey3119 3 года назад

    I bought a ~2007 Hoyt Katera last year second hand. Hunted with what came on it. This year I upgraded the sight, rest, and quiver to my liking. Would i like a new bow if given the chance? Sure who wouldnt? I cant afford to drop $1,800 on the latest Mathews or Hoyt. My bow shoots good and I’m accurate with it. It’s my bow and I worked hard for the money I spent on it. I am however navigating the rabbit hole that is saddle hunting with gear and platforms etc. never realized what a money pit hunting can be. Growing up, i got a rifle for Christmas, had some mix match camo, and a Walmart special Winchester knife.

  • @johnfretz1938
    @johnfretz1938 Год назад

    Thanks. A someone just getting into archery, those tips are really helpful.

  • @justinwilliams9452
    @justinwilliams9452 3 года назад

    When im in my blind or stand i use a crossbow barnett d r t 385. But when im stalking around i use a slingbow, i bought the frame from china it has 4 tension springs and i build the rest from there got a whisker biscuit i use the dankung bands from china they have like 400x return if ya do it right make custom pouches with a loop knock n a arrow knock, it's awesome.

  • @devinbreeding5412
    @devinbreeding5412 Год назад

    Good video. I’m learning to shoot on a mid 80s Golden Eagle Compound bow. Its 50 lbs with a 50% let off. I wish it were 60 or 70 lbs but I but other than that I put a whisker biscuit on and a d-loop release and its more accurate than I can shoot. I’ll probably pick up an early 2000s Mathews or Hoyt this year and I’ll be good with that for many years.

  • @perrmyint3098
    @perrmyint3098 2 года назад

    I try to learn more about Bow
    Next year I plan to hunt with Bow
    I have been working with Tenpoint shadow nxt for 4 years love it.but just want to learn new things. Thanks for video.

  • @jeff0710
    @jeff0710 3 года назад

    I hear ya I'm also jealous our season in Virginia dose not open til Oct 2 got to love them commonwealth state laws

  • @brndncrbtt
    @brndncrbtt 3 года назад

    Great video! Glad I found your channel. The last bow I purchased was a 2010-2011ish Bowtech Destroyer 340 and hunted with it since. That said I just purchased a new bow, a Mathews V3 31. I didn't need one, just wanted one. Kinda fun to start over and learn a new bow after so many years. The technology and gadgets these days is kinda insane. Feel like I'm completely new to archery. But that's kinda fun and exciting in itself. Thanks for the video. Excited to check out more on your channel.

  • @conradwoodiwiss7936
    @conradwoodiwiss7936 3 года назад

    Love them blazer vanes their like having another broadhead on your arrow, tough as nails

  • @timbow50
    @timbow50 3 года назад

    Like you my Elite Ritual is setup so I can hunt with it or shoot 3-d or dots. My hunting and target arrows have been built so I do not need to do anything to change the bow. I change the sight/scope and the stabilizers in about 1 minute and done.

  • @landonmauldin42
    @landonmauldin42 2 месяца назад

    After years of bow fishing I started bow hunting this year. I got a deal on a pawn shop special and bought it. It’s a Hoyt powermax that looks brand new fully rigged for 400 bucks. Tuned it to me. With what I saved I can upgrade the site and rest and use the crap out of it even after deer season I’m gonna target shoot at the house. I don’t need a new 1,500 dollar bow to be happy.

  • @bctpcp9546
    @bctpcp9546 Год назад

    My Bear was 39" axel to axel and used for hunting all the time.

  • @chrisruzsa2798
    @chrisruzsa2798 3 года назад +2

    The latest and greatest with constant tinkering is absurd in my experience.
    I keep things simple as possible, pre-made arrows and bolts work very well.
    If you want to tinker thats fine but I personally recommend only tinkering once you have become one with your bow or crossbow.

  • @ALNTV1541
    @ALNTV1541 3 года назад

    For my abilities, when needing vanes. I’ve had great luck with the shrink vanes you dip in hot water.

  • @FloridaMan1976
    @FloridaMan1976 2 года назад

    I'm looking into getting the Elite Terrain as my first bow. I'm 6'1" and I think I'm about 29ish on DL. I was looking into a budget bow (Bear Resurgence) but I think I'll be more satisfied and for many years with the Terrain...then I'll build that premium dream bow

  • @bctpcp9546
    @bctpcp9546 Год назад

    The only disadvantage for blue is not for deer but for any birds you may have missed sitting in trees above you because they can see color and if startled they might fly off and startle your deer but other than that it would only happen if you were waving the bow sideways in the air (very unlikely), so yeah blue means nothing and is fine for hunting.

  • @Deadbuck73
    @Deadbuck73 3 года назад

    I loved my PSE Thunderbolt... and I still love my Matthews Switchback XT... I still don’t need two cams or six extra feet of stabilizers.. Robin Hood’s aplenty... the shooter needs to learn to shoot and not expect the bow to do magic for them... and that’s when the magic happens!

  • @whitetailpoet4243
    @whitetailpoet4243 3 года назад

    Hi Nate. It was cool hearing you teach kids. Props to you. I'm a small town English teacher in West Central Minnesota. By the way, I shoot an older Hoyt Ultra Mag and I love it. Keep up the good work.

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 года назад +1

      Middle School English for me! Tough work, but honest work. 😎

    • @whitetailpoet4243
      @whitetailpoet4243 3 года назад

      @@averagejackarchery I love it! 7th through 12th grade preps for me in a small town school. I'm sure the students love your class. Take care.

  • @christopherx1788
    @christopherx1788 2 года назад

    I was trying to find where you showed the target you were shooting at, wanted to see your results.

  • @joehealey6209
    @joehealey6209 2 года назад

    I’m finally thinking about replacing my bow it’s a bear first strike xlr. If I remember correctly I bought it new in 1992 or 93. Lol

  • @TheWVgoodguy22
    @TheWVgoodguy22 3 года назад

    Even though I am aware of many trends in archery 🏹 I haven’t followed along with doing all of them.
    I believe that 33 ATA will be the minimum for me. My PSE Fire 🔥 Flite 33 and my new bow is 33 ATA.
    I was going to stick with my 06 PSE at least one more season and hopefully get my first deer 🦌 with it, but I went to a new local archery 🏹 pro shop and they had a bare shot (50 shots through it) PRIME BLACK 3 for $600 and couldn’t pass up the $400+ in savings. I still plan on taking out my old bow that you helped setup and take a deer 🦌 with it before relegating it to a backup.

  • @DorsettArchery
    @DorsettArchery 2 года назад

    Im still shooting a 2011 matthews z7 extreme 28 ata 29dl 73# its lights out every year! Also shoot 3d and qon multiple classes and with a light arrow 380 -400 gr im getting 290s fps . Like you said its not about whats the newest and greatest thing but what you're comfortable with!! Love your content man keep it up!

  • @flathead5412
    @flathead5412 3 года назад

    I shoot a 06 Matthews and I ain’t changed a single thing on it. I have been extremely lucky that I have not broken anything or dropped it though I’ve been close and my heart stopped each time. I’m 31 now and the only time I will even think about gettin another one is if one of my two boys wants mine instead of there own. At that point I’ll be hollering at my dad to see if he wants to get rid of his 08.

  • @SoloCamXTOutdoors
    @SoloCamXTOutdoors 3 года назад

    I hear ya man. I’ve been down all those same roads. And you’re not to shabby as a poet 😎

  • @FPChris
    @FPChris 3 года назад

    I have the Rezult 37 in green on order. Can’t wait.

  • @dwightemery5694
    @dwightemery5694 3 года назад

    I like my Mongolian Horse Bow better than my compound bow and I've been shooting in archery for a very long time. I have some nice recurve bows, also crossbows... but my favorite is my Mongolian Horse Bow and then a simple recurve bow at fifty pounds. Easier to haul them around than a bulky compound bow. Any way, you are hitting the nail on the head... thanks and have a great day.

  • @robertdeis132
    @robertdeis132 3 года назад

    Nate, you're not missing much in the special regs areas. At least in the 5D WMA, too warm and green for my taste. I'm considering switching to a stick bow because I'm getting tired of the maintenance with a compound. I'd rather focus less on the bow and more on the arrows and broadheads.

  • @leeneedham6443
    @leeneedham6443 Год назад

    I'm new to archery but watched a few videos now and can I say , your good on video been a pleasure to watch your videos . found you very intelligent full of knowledge . thanks good stuff to help me

  • @SkillCollectors
    @SkillCollectors 5 месяцев назад

    You probably just saved me 10 years of screwing around with all kinds of stuff that doesn't really matter.

  • @tymothykendrick6420
    @tymothykendrick6420 3 года назад

    Just got the pine ridge nitro vanes. They are soft but stick very well on a bare shaft

  • @ariankozlansky6348
    @ariankozlansky6348 3 года назад +6

    Im so glad you discussed letting down the bow. I feel like its something that is left out with most guys but to me it is so crucial to have a smooth let down. Iv had bows that were good and bad. My buddies all love bowtechs and although I havent shot the new SS, to me I just couldnt let them down smooth. My V3 is nice to let down. Its just important to know that as something important before you buy a bow. Really good video. Enjoyed it!

    • @MrShysterme
      @MrShysterme 3 года назад

      i have to push my bowtech revolt on comfort forward to let it down (at least that is the sensation) because the let off is high and valley is huge (which is nice), this is actually hard on your shoulders because you are not engaging the muscles that will have to catch the string once it starts moving

    • @Njjb122
      @Njjb122 3 года назад

      Im shooting the ss this season and letting down is super smooth just like the draw cycle my realm x is smooth too ...my vertix was a little rough but as long as you can handle to poundage your pulling you can control the let down

    • @MrShysterme
      @MrShysterme 3 года назад

      @@Njjb122 yeah, i almost got the ss and comments like yours makes me second guess my decision again....i can control but don't enjoy the let down.....i can control it fine, but it yanks the inside of my shoulder in a way that just isn't pleasant

    • @jasonbrady7861
      @jasonbrady7861 3 года назад +1

      Letdown on my Revolt X is interesting. The backwall is so solid and the letoff so comfortable that it feels like you have to push the string to let it down. It does kinda pull at your shoulder muscles uncomfortably because that transition is quick and powerful from.. comfortably held backwall to the bow wanting to jump forward.. I'm shooting 62lbs on comfort setting... the tradeoff to me is worth the 'harsh' letdown for the solid backwall and higher letoff %... it's a great bow!

  • @l.i.archer5379
    @l.i.archer5379 2 года назад

    Pine Ridge came out with the Predator vanes back in the mid-2000s. They absolutely sucked at adhesion to the arrow shaft. I hope the Nitro vanes stick better than those Predator vanes did.

  • @tradarcher8714
    @tradarcher8714 2 года назад

    I like the raw truth vids. We have over complicated archery.

  • @bryceoleski5680
    @bryceoleski5680 3 года назад

    I’m new to bows and this was super helpful.

  • @deanehuff1589
    @deanehuff1589 3 года назад +1

    Great advice as usual. There is nothing wrong with sticking with an old reliable bow that drives tacks and kills deer just as well as the latest and greatest would. Being a non-conformist is both fun and liberating. Enjoy your archery in the way that makes you happy and satisfied.

  • @FidsArt
    @FidsArt 3 года назад

    Any suggestions for a longer axel to axel bow for us long fellas that doesn't rip your shoulder out of socket on let down?

  • @HeavilyConnected
    @HeavilyConnected 3 года назад

    There are those who can monologue and those who cannot. Great video bow master

  • @archeraction6
    @archeraction6 2 года назад

    thanks Jack, have an awesome day

  • @robdonaldson4837
    @robdonaldson4837 3 года назад

    I’m a beginner archer. Thanks for the great advise.

  • @pholton3300
    @pholton3300 3 года назад

    I never use to care about arrow weight but with all the talk about shooting heavier arrows, I made the switch this year to a heavier arrow. Now I'm asking myself why? My old arrow set up (about 410g w/fixed blade broadhead) has killed me 20+ deer with majority being full pass throughs. I like to shoot TAC and practice longer ranges with the same bow and arrows that I hunt with. With my new heavier set up I can't shoot past 70 yards due to my vane/arrow hitting my scope housing. I will hut this year with my current heavier arrow set up, but going back to lighter arrow after season.

  • @teamflanneloutdoors5631
    @teamflanneloutdoors5631 3 года назад +1

    I bought a brand new leftover 2015 bow that I had sought after for years. Can I be in the club? AND, few years ago there was a blue bow thread on AT, wish I could find it again. Lots of people killing Deer with all manners of Blue bows😎

  • @komarama
    @komarama 3 года назад +1

    I still shoot my 2011 Darton ds 2800, what is funny is that the cam system Rex Darlington put on my bow 10 years ago (patent must have ran out) is now on these other manufactures bows now.

  • @castortoutnu
    @castortoutnu 2 года назад

    Just bought my first bow a week ago for 100€ (second hand). Very happy with it so far, still learning how to use it correctly.

  • @craighanson6936
    @craighanson6936 3 года назад

    I just got comfortable with my Kure,broad heads are shooting good field points are shooting good thinking I’m ready to go hunting and now you’re making me think that I need to mess with my let off for that nice smooth let down you were talking about oh well I guess I’m not quite ready yet👍🏻👍🏻

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 года назад

      Nah! Plenty of time in the off-season for that. Leave the confidence high and shoot it the way it's rocking!

  • @BowHunterPlanet
    @BowHunterPlanet 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @mike_hunt_fish_trap
    @mike_hunt_fish_trap 2 года назад

    Heli-m from 2011 is a deer/hog hammer 70lb 470gr total Weight arrow 281fps

  • @pardo94
    @pardo94 3 года назад

    wow that bow looks really nice on you!!

  • @yuriklaver4639
    @yuriklaver4639 2 года назад

    Awesome story

  • @rocknthamix
    @rocknthamix Год назад +1

    It’s up to you to write your story on it 💪🏼🤘🏼 poetic nonsense or not that was 🔥🔥🔥🔥😂

  • @Voxguitarsrock
    @Voxguitarsrock 3 года назад +2

    My hunting rig is 40" ata. No issues.
    And " latest and greatest" equipment? Lol, I have friends with arrow rests that cost more than my entire setup.