There's just so much content begging for our attention now that people don't want to settle for just fine. There's more movies and shows than ever, social media content is more accessible than ever, video games are more mainstream than ever. There's just so much out there and so little time in our lives.
Personally, I think the problem nowadays is people bitching, condemning and boycotting a movie two months before it’s even out and they haven’t even seen it
8:18 John Hurt sadly has padded away. I'm pretty sure it was at the beginning of 2017. My girlfriend and I were actually talking about how if he was still with us, I think he'd make a better addition to the movie than Toby Jones. I like Toby Jones. But I think it would have been more interesting to have Oxley be the one that met Indy back in the war, and he gave Indy his book about the Dial in his will. And that's what gets him back in the game. To finish an adventure, Indy and Oxley always said they would go on, but never could because time caught up with them.
I saw it in a drive-in. It was a bit hard to see the opening sequence so I couldn't tell if the de-aging was bad. Once they get out of the US it mostly feels like an Indiana Jones film, if it is a little long. I think I liked it well enough.
Its crazy how the narrative has spiralled from mixed reception at Cannes to now. Shame really. Its a perfectly fine movie with a far too large budget, but other than that, there's nothing wrong with it.
Imagine spending $300,000 on a high end sports car…and it’s “fine”. Indiana Jones 5 is one of the *most expensive movies of all time* and context matters in this situation.
I kind of appreciated it as Indy's Logan. It was his one last hurrah, looking at the world that left Indiana behind. [Spoilers from here on out] It's telling to me that the day Jones is set to retire is the same day Voller is getting celebrated with a New York parade and a meeting with the President. And Waller-Bridge as Shaw is an excellent foil as the underhanded, grifter version of Indy who, by the end, is shown to actually care just as much as he does. If there IS anything else, I would hope it's spinning something off to let Shaw and Teddy have their own adventures. They're even set up to revise the angle that has most dogged the Indiana Jones movies in the modern era. Namely that white people looting cultural artifacts from CURRENT peoples has a lot of problems with it that just weren't on peoples minds back in the 80s/90s. Shaw could operate within the black market to explicitly be keeping this weird shit OUT of the hands of someone who just wants it in their personal trophy room.
Or maybe Teddy as the actor grows up. But I mainly agree with you! I don’t think it’ll go over well though. Like too many people will complain about “wokeness” 🙄 if a character so much as implies this. (Like any kind of treasure hunter moral high ground I guess.) Personally I think it’d be fine if the show or whatever was just very committed to your idea but nothing that opinionated could come from Disney imho lol
I really enjoyed the movie. Not the best Indy movie, not the worst, but definitely an Indy movie. I would recommend it to any fan, and maybe casual viewers if they don't mind longer movies. I'm glad this is a more balanced review. I think the movie is getting WAY too much hate from reviewers.
I think the awkward racism in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is even worse with the added layer of aliens being suggested to be responsible for the cultures and accomplishments of the Indigenous populations in south America (and the populations in Egypt considering the implications of them finding Egyptian artifacts in the temple near the end). While Temple of Doom has that incredibly culturally insensitive/kind of racist caricature dinner scene (and there some more subtle racist aspects to the portrayal of the cult in that film), the racist implications are weirdly much, much worse in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, a much more recently made film. As for Dial of Destiny, I enjoyed it, especially the WW2 sequence at the beginning and the twist in the third act. It's the slowest paced out of the films, but I thought it had some great character moments and some of the action scenes did work effectively. I would give it a 7.5 out of 10. It's better than Temple of Doom or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull imo but definitely not as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark or Last Crusade.
I mean… the last 30 minutes is about as big and weird as it can get with a movie like this. Haha. I guess you wanted the whole thing to be big and weird? But him riding through a parade is big and weird. Hell, him being in his 80’s and never breaking a hip through all of it is pretty big and weird. Even having the entire opening prologue be cgi/de-aging is pretty big and weird. The whole movie is big, bold, and weird. And I say that as someone that actually liked it. I think the contention a lot of vocal people are dealing with is that the movie forces them to reconcile what happens to pretty much everyone as they age, and it’s profoundly uncomfortable but also, very real. You could argue that we never needed to see Indy get older, but it’s going to happen to all of us, and I give them props for exploring a new aspect of the character fully, where Crystal skull only winked at it. I didn’t need Dial of Destiny or the lesson on the cruelty of time, but I’m glad it exists and I enjoyed what it did well. And if you view it through the lens of Harrison Ford grappling with his own closing existence, and there are countless interviews now of him literally tearing up over it, this movie has a very layered purpose. For everyone to just write this movie off as “old Indy sucks, bad movie” is a kind of slap in the face to the guy that tried to bring the character to life for over 40 years. It doesn’t have to be anyone’s favorite, but we can afford to be a bit more flexible I think.
For me it was a great epilogue to the saga. I always loved Raiders of the Lost Ark but never bought the to silly tone the other movies went into. Going back for a more grounded and classic tone with Dial of Destiny gave me my second favourite entry in the franchise
I think the original 3 films felt like they could have been stories that an older Indians Jones would have told people like “oh you wanna hear what was happening behind the scenes of WWII”. Like, this kind of legend that was always there but not known about until after the fact. I don’t quite know how to explain it but the more modern ones just don’t feel that way to me.
Weirdly the biggest problem I have - besides the set pieces being bloated yet simultaneously uninventive and missing that Spielberg playfulness that permeates the previous films - is that at the end of the day the movie feels like “just another adventure for Indiana Jones.” When it’s not, it’s THE LAST adventure of Indiana Jones, supposedly. But the Dial doesn’t feel like a big enough Macguffin for the final film, the story and characters are largely new to this movie and even when they bring someone back - like Sallah and Marion - it’s just a quick cameo. They don’t even use the main conceit of the Dial for its logical thematic conclusion of bringing things full circle or reconciling the past with the present - instead it’s just a weird/cool setup for a weird/cool final set piece. Crystal Skull for all its faults feels like an ENDING. It feels like one last hurrah. By the time the credits roll you’re satisfied that Indy has finally found a family to retire to, and even that a successor has been picked if they ever do another one. And then Dial of Destiny just kinda… happens. It feels like an afterthought. Why did they bring back the franchise after 15 years just to give us an aggressively “fine” afterthought?
I hadn't thought of it until reading your comment but you are SO right. The movie could have been a lot better if they would have taken the time to make his last adventure have the gravitas that it needed. I really think that's the worst thing about this movie. Indy has had his final adventure TWICE already and they came back to do
Excalibur Atlantis The hanging gardens of babylon The Sampo Pandora's box The Argo Noah's Ark The Bajioa Shan The club of Dagda The book of Thoth The Pashupatastra The Armor of Achilles The staff of sun wukong Megingjörđ (thor's magic belt) The apple of Eris The Mead of Poetry Some of these might work better as Locations though.
Honestly, they should’ve went back to 1939 like how Mikkelsen’s character wanted to, and in the process, Old Indy meets his younger self and gives him advice like, “The greatest treasure are the ones you love; the ones who care about you”, and when Old Indy comes back, Mutt is alive (played by a different actor this time) and he’s still with Marion. My other idea was that when Indy goes back through the portal, he’s young again and he looks completely different, this way, the future of Indiana Jones could be secured.
It was fine, but I was 100% disappointed that the friend with a boat wasn't Mr. Katanga. I know George Harris is retired but he was always the one guy besides Short Round I wanted to see in the post 2000 Indy films.
Première at Cannes led to heightened reactions (as do any premieres at film festivals) which tended towards negative, which then led to people having preconceptions and people making up leaks feeding made up vitriol against it being woke and tarnishing the legacy of the franchise etc, etc. On top of that, an alleged budget of 350 million + 100 million print and advertising means that to be successful financially it has to make close to a billion dollars, which further polarises opinions, as it looks unlikely to even come close to breaking even at this point, which is interpreted as it being a bad movie.
I agree it is fine. It wasn’t what I was looking for in an Indiana jones movie. I also liked the villain. I didn’t want to walk out of the theater, but I did find it boring. I checked my watch like 10 times during the movie.
I think Spielberg not directing this is really a detriment to the film's visual quality. Without him, it feels like Disney the corporation directed it and not a sole human being(s).
Agreed. The first three films were heavily influenced by '30s serials. 'Crystal Skulls', for all its sins, had '50s films as its influence, especially the B-movies. 'Dials of Destiny' is too modern. Too sleek. Too flat. It's made just to be another 2020s movie.
Such bizarre criticism. Spielberg is maybe the best to ever do it, but the industry seems to have passed him by long ago. The only truly great movie he’s made (read: directed) this CENTURY is Lincoln. The rest (including the last Indy movie) ranged from extremely mediocre to flat out garbage. Y’all wanted him to destroy another Indiana Jones movie? For real?
I mean, it was Spielberg who first abandoned most of the practical stunts and set work (that gave the franchise such charm in the 80s) when he made Crystal Skull. Remember?
This was a great film! Saw it with my best friend at a drive-in! Deaging looked good to me, probably because it was still kinda light out, lol. She never saw an Indy film, so she still really liked this one! - Luke
For some reason, Phoebe Waller-Bridge really makes online guys angry. Not the character she plays in Indy 5, the ACTRESS pisses them off and they transfer that bitterness to that character. And then boom: “Indy 5 is woke Disney trash” or whatever
I was very mixed before seeing it. I heard good things i heard bad things. Ultimately it's like you said: its a very "fine" movie. And coming from lucasfilm that says something. It wasnt like rogue one good or anything but definitely on the level of Solo.
It's the only 'Indiana Jones' movie I don't like, and that's putting it lightly. It's bloated, it's tired, it's uninspired. At its core, Indiana Jones is in tradition of a pulp action hero. There will always be delighful camp. Spielberg made the first three with plentiful of flavors from 1930s serials. The mistake of 'Crystal Skull' is that it swung a tad too hard on the camp, but the spirit's still there. The aliens, the Soviets; Spielberg didn't set it in the '50s, he wants it to feel a bit like a '50s movie, particularly the B-movies. 'Dials of Destiny' feels like any other modern blockbusters. The Nazis are the bad guys again only because they're Indy's most popular foes. The new characters are at best forgettable, at worst, grating. Currently doing a re-write on it, and my biggest obstacle is my own bitterness for it.
Come on, it’s better than fine. It’s a heartfelt modernization of the franchise which is also a worthy send-off to the beloved character. Perfect? Obviously not. But it’s light years better than Crystal Skull and Temple of Doom. Coming in in the middle of the pack in THIS franchise? Definitely better than “fine,” for my money.
Seriously, the love for Temple of Doom has to just be nostalgia glasses. I don’t get it. It’s a bad (REALLY bad) James Bond movie that is horribly acted, extremely racist and misogynist, and doesn’t even tell a coherent story. It’s *bad*.
Lol everyone wasted their money and is now trying to convince themselves it was worth it 😂 One of the most expensive movies of all time and it was *“fine”* 💀
Yeah, sorry.. but nothing about this movie is 'fine'. Plus, we should expect more from Lucasfilm than just fine. Give me a break. Just 'fine' is unacceptable.. especially after Crystal Skull. This movie should never have been made.
I dont have any real problems with the plot, character stuff, acting, etc. But the action set pieces were overdone, and didnt gave the realistic charm of the older ones. The best part about the original action scenes was the slow punches, fighting dirty, etc. All while on sets that felt tangible. The action scebes in this movie were over the top and it felt like it was all happening in a closed off, intangible CGI void.
They either needed to commit to the crazy ass ending and leave Indy in the place he wanted to be left, or make the dial not actually have supernatural qualities. I'd have appreciated the twist of "oh the magic relic isn't actually magic this time"
this movie has two main characters, and two awful character arcs. One of them has a setup of an arc with no payoff, and one of them has a payoff with no setup. Both are equally terrible screenwriting flaws.
Ugh. But THATS the problem - it's just 'fine.' It could have been SO GREAT. They had all the pieces to make something so much better. One small change: replace Helena with grown-up Short Round.
If you're going to follow up a GREAT movie like Raiders, every single entry has to be comparable, at least solidly GOOD. Or else it's inevitably disappointing. The Indiana Jones series exists because the first movie was so good; it set the bar. You have to meet that bar every time, not just be "good enough". It's perfectly reasonable for fans to expect a great movie out of Indiana Jones, because the whole franchise is based, and built, and sold, on greatness.
All a matter of opinion but I thought it was actively bad. Nonsensical plot and, Helena aside, unlikable characters. Was praying for it to end by the time they got on the plane.
Dude, seriously. Write down what you want to say. You are just rambling here. And why would you start talking about a loaded subject such as "racial connotations" and then just go "ah, but I don't wanna talk about that!" Make up your mind, maybe? That is quite a big topic to just casually throw into the room. Order your thoughts. Write a script.
300m for "fine" is simply not ok. The amount of terrible movies coming out recently is going to destroy cinemas. And the RUclips critic community should be ashamed of themselves. The amount of rhetoric, mostly hateful, spewed by you guys is just ridiculous
No its not fine... Imo its worse then crystal skull, the amount of force woke feminism in the movie is so frustrating and also watching indy himself taking a backseat in his own movie was terrible. The wombat character was not funny, charming or witty, she was annoying as hell
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The problem is that nowdays being FINE is no longer enough to make people interested
There's just so much content begging for our attention now that people don't want to settle for just fine. There's more movies and shows than ever, social media content is more accessible than ever, video games are more mainstream than ever. There's just so much out there and so little time in our lives.
Tbh I don’t even think a perfect Indiana Jones would get the kids interested
Cool, I'll wait for it on Disney Plus then.
Personally, I think the problem nowadays is people bitching, condemning and boycotting a movie two months before it’s even out and they haven’t even seen it
Insulting the beloved main character is not FINE.
8:18 John Hurt sadly has padded away. I'm pretty sure it was at the beginning of 2017.
My girlfriend and I were actually talking about how if he was still with us, I think he'd make a better addition to the movie than Toby Jones. I like Toby Jones. But I think it would have been more interesting to have Oxley be the one that met Indy back in the war, and he gave Indy his book about the Dial in his will.
And that's what gets him back in the game. To finish an adventure, Indy and Oxley always said they would go on, but never could because time caught up with them.
I saw it in a drive-in. It was a bit hard to see the opening sequence so I couldn't tell if the de-aging was bad. Once they get out of the US it mostly feels like an Indiana Jones film, if it is a little long. I think I liked it well enough.
It was 2017.
@marionbaggins Damn... shit. It's been so long. Literally feels not too long ago. I was listening to him play the War Doctor in Big Finish. Wow.
Thank you for all the great content!
It was a fun movie, not perfect, but I’d be lying if I said that I didn’t have a good time, and Harrison Ford was great as always
Its crazy how the narrative has spiralled from mixed reception at Cannes to now. Shame really. Its a perfectly fine movie with a far too large budget, but other than that, there's nothing wrong with it.
Imagine spending $300,000 on a high end sports car…and it’s “fine”.
Indiana Jones 5 is one of the *most expensive movies of all time* and context matters in this situation.
I agree
I’m working on a rewrite for it on my channel it will probably take a few months but I’m working on it along with a lot more
The more I think back on Dial the more I like it honestly. It's a solid 7/10 for me and it felt like a fitting end to the character
Well that's embarrassing for you
I kind of appreciated it as Indy's Logan. It was his one last hurrah, looking at the world that left Indiana behind.
[Spoilers from here on out]
It's telling to me that the day Jones is set to retire is the same day Voller is getting celebrated with a New York parade and a meeting with the President. And Waller-Bridge as Shaw is an excellent foil as the underhanded, grifter version of Indy who, by the end, is shown to actually care just as much as he does.
If there IS anything else, I would hope it's spinning something off to let Shaw and Teddy have their own adventures. They're even set up to revise the angle that has most dogged the Indiana Jones movies in the modern era. Namely that white people looting cultural artifacts from CURRENT peoples has a lot of problems with it that just weren't on peoples minds back in the 80s/90s. Shaw could operate within the black market to explicitly be keeping this weird shit OUT of the hands of someone who just wants it in their personal trophy room.
Or maybe Teddy as the actor grows up. But I mainly agree with you!
I don’t think it’ll go over well though. Like too many people will complain about “wokeness” 🙄 if a character so much as implies this. (Like any kind of treasure hunter moral high ground I guess.) Personally I think it’d be fine if the show or whatever was just very committed to your idea but nothing that opinionated could come from Disney imho lol
I really enjoyed the movie. Not the best Indy movie, not the worst, but definitely an Indy movie. I would recommend it to any fan, and maybe casual viewers if they don't mind longer movies. I'm glad this is a more balanced review. I think the movie is getting WAY too much hate from reviewers.
I think the awkward racism in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is even worse with the added layer of aliens being suggested to be responsible for the cultures and accomplishments of the Indigenous populations in south America (and the populations in Egypt considering the implications of them finding Egyptian artifacts in the temple near the end). While Temple of Doom has that incredibly culturally insensitive/kind of racist caricature dinner scene (and there some more subtle racist aspects to the portrayal of the cult in that film), the racist implications are weirdly much, much worse in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, a much more recently made film.
As for Dial of Destiny, I enjoyed it, especially the WW2 sequence at the beginning and the twist in the third act. It's the slowest paced out of the films, but I thought it had some great character moments and some of the action scenes did work effectively. I would give it a 7.5 out of 10. It's better than Temple of Doom or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull imo but definitely not as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark or Last Crusade.
That's what I've heard as well, that it's just fine. Unfortunately fine isn't enough to get me to go to the theaters nowadays
i like the hobie in the backround nando
I mean… the last 30 minutes is about as big and weird as it can get with a movie like this. Haha. I guess you wanted the whole thing to be big and weird? But him riding through a parade is big and weird. Hell, him being in his 80’s and never breaking a hip through all of it is pretty big and weird. Even having the entire opening prologue be cgi/de-aging is pretty big and weird. The whole movie is big, bold, and weird. And I say that as someone that actually liked it.
I think the contention a lot of vocal people are dealing with is that the movie forces them to reconcile what happens to pretty much everyone as they age, and it’s profoundly uncomfortable but also, very real. You could argue that we never needed to see Indy get older, but it’s going to happen to all of us, and I give them props for exploring a new aspect of the character fully, where Crystal skull only winked at it. I didn’t need Dial of Destiny or the lesson on the cruelty of time, but I’m glad it exists and I enjoyed what it did well.
And if you view it through the lens of Harrison Ford grappling with his own closing existence, and there are countless interviews now of him literally tearing up over it, this movie has a very layered purpose. For everyone to just write this movie off as “old Indy sucks, bad movie” is a kind of slap in the face to the guy that tried to bring the character to life for over 40 years. It doesn’t have to be anyone’s favorite, but we can afford to be a bit more flexible I think.
For me it was a great epilogue to the saga. I always loved Raiders of the Lost Ark but never bought the to silly tone the other movies went into. Going back for a more grounded and classic tone with Dial of Destiny gave me my second favourite entry in the franchise
To get Indy's voice quickly, just say "it belongs in a museum!"
life is too short to be spent on "okay, that was fine" movies
I think the original 3 films felt like they could have been stories that an older Indians Jones would have told people like “oh you wanna hear what was happening behind the scenes of WWII”. Like, this kind of legend that was always there but not known about until after the fact.
I don’t quite know how to explain it but the more modern ones just don’t feel that way to me.
So basically the young indiana jones chronicles.
Whenever Indianan jones goes into the super natural it isn’t good
I’ve never seen a movie be consistently been referred to as “fine” as dial of destiny
Weirdly the biggest problem I have - besides the set pieces being bloated yet simultaneously uninventive and missing that Spielberg playfulness that permeates the previous films - is that at the end of the day the movie feels like “just another adventure for Indiana Jones.” When it’s not, it’s THE LAST adventure of Indiana Jones, supposedly.
But the Dial doesn’t feel like a big enough Macguffin for the final film, the story and characters are largely new to this movie and even when they bring someone back - like Sallah and Marion - it’s just a quick cameo. They don’t even use the main conceit of the Dial for its logical thematic conclusion of bringing things full circle or reconciling the past with the present - instead it’s just a weird/cool setup for a weird/cool final set piece.
Crystal Skull for all its faults feels like an ENDING. It feels like one last hurrah. By the time the credits roll you’re satisfied that Indy has finally found a family to retire to, and even that a successor has been picked if they ever do another one.
And then Dial of Destiny just kinda… happens. It feels like an afterthought. Why did they bring back the franchise after 15 years just to give us an aggressively “fine” afterthought?
I hadn't thought of it until reading your comment but you are SO right. The movie could have been a lot better if they would have taken the time to make his last adventure have the gravitas that it needed.
I really think that's the worst thing about this movie. Indy has had his final adventure TWICE already and they came back to do
Excalibur
Atlantis
The hanging gardens of babylon
The Sampo
Pandora's box
The Argo
Noah's Ark
The Bajioa Shan
The club of Dagda
The book of Thoth
The Pashupatastra
The Armor of Achilles
The staff of sun wukong
Megingjörđ (thor's magic belt)
The apple of Eris
The Mead of Poetry
Some of these might work better as
Locations though.
Honestly, they should’ve went back to 1939 like how Mikkelsen’s character wanted to, and in the process, Old Indy meets his younger self and gives him advice like, “The greatest treasure are the ones you love; the ones who care about you”, and when Old Indy comes back, Mutt is alive (played by a different actor this time) and he’s still with Marion.
My other idea was that when Indy goes back through the portal, he’s young again and he looks completely different, this way, the future of Indiana Jones could be secured.
saw it today, I think it's a solid 7/10
It was fine, but I was 100% disappointed that the friend with a boat wasn't Mr. Katanga. I know George Harris is retired but he was always the one guy besides Short Round I wanted to see in the post 2000 Indy films.
Toby Jones KILLED it. As always.
And he died killed it
I liked this movie. It had some fun stuff in it, I don’t see why everyone is hating it
Première at Cannes led to heightened reactions (as do any premieres at film festivals) which tended towards negative, which then led to people having preconceptions and people making up leaks feeding made up vitriol against it being woke and tarnishing the legacy of the franchise etc, etc. On top of that, an alleged budget of 350 million + 100 million print and advertising means that to be successful financially it has to make close to a billion dollars, which further polarises opinions, as it looks unlikely to even come close to breaking even at this point, which is interpreted as it being a bad movie.
Nothing to hate in the movie. I enjoyed it, too. I'd put it 4th in the ranking.
The treeatment of indiana Jones, Shaw character
I don't think people care about Idiama Jones any more. But everybody likes to complain.
It was better than 2 of the 4 movies that came before it.
I agree it is fine. It wasn’t what I was looking for in an Indiana jones movie. I also liked the villain. I didn’t want to walk out of the theater, but I did find it boring. I checked my watch like 10 times during the movie.
I think Spielberg not directing this is really a detriment to the film's visual quality. Without him, it feels like Disney the corporation directed it and not a sole human being(s).
Agreed. The first three films were heavily influenced by '30s serials. 'Crystal Skulls', for all its sins, had '50s films as its influence, especially the B-movies.
'Dials of Destiny' is too modern. Too sleek. Too flat. It's made just to be another 2020s movie.
Such bizarre criticism. Spielberg is maybe the best to ever do it, but the industry seems to have passed him by long ago. The only truly great movie he’s made (read: directed) this CENTURY is Lincoln. The rest (including the last Indy movie) ranged from extremely mediocre to flat out garbage. Y’all wanted him to destroy another Indiana Jones movie? For real?
I mean, it was Spielberg who first abandoned most of the practical stunts and set work (that gave the franchise such charm in the 80s) when he made Crystal Skull. Remember?
@@jasonmarbach 'Dials of Destiny' is the only Indiana Jones movie I don't like. I'd welcome Spielberg to try to destroy Indy.
I unironically think that AI wrote this movie.
At least it wasn’t crystal skull
Im really looking forward to the podcast about this movie. Its a good movie but so Nitpickable
I really liked it
This was a great film! Saw it with my best friend at a drive-in! Deaging looked good to me, probably because it was still kinda light out, lol. She never saw an Indy film, so she still really liked this one! - Luke
For some reason, Phoebe Waller-Bridge really makes online guys angry. Not the character she plays in Indy 5, the ACTRESS pisses them off and they transfer that bitterness to that character. And then boom: “Indy 5 is woke Disney trash” or whatever
I liked it
Yes, For All Mankind was a great show!
To me, "fine" is worse than "terrible". I might actually remember a terrible movie.
I was very mixed before seeing it. I heard good things i heard bad things. Ultimately it's like you said: its a very "fine" movie. And coming from lucasfilm that says something. It wasnt like rogue one good or anything but definitely on the level of Solo.
It's the only 'Indiana Jones' movie I don't like, and that's putting it lightly. It's bloated, it's tired, it's uninspired.
At its core, Indiana Jones is in tradition of a pulp action hero. There will always be delighful camp. Spielberg made the first three with plentiful of flavors from 1930s serials. The mistake of 'Crystal Skull' is that it swung a tad too hard on the camp, but the spirit's still there. The aliens, the Soviets; Spielberg didn't set it in the '50s, he wants it to feel a bit like a '50s movie, particularly the B-movies.
'Dials of Destiny' feels like any other modern blockbusters. The Nazis are the bad guys again only because they're Indy's most popular foes. The new characters are at best forgettable, at worst, grating.
Currently doing a re-write on it, and my biggest obstacle is my own bitterness for it.
Come on, it’s better than fine. It’s a heartfelt modernization of the franchise which is also a worthy send-off to the beloved character. Perfect? Obviously not. But it’s light years better than Crystal Skull and Temple of Doom. Coming in in the middle of the pack in THIS franchise? Definitely better than “fine,” for my money.
Seriously, the love for Temple of Doom has to just be nostalgia glasses. I don’t get it. It’s a bad (REALLY bad) James Bond movie that is horribly acted, extremely racist and misogynist, and doesn’t even tell a coherent story. It’s *bad*.
Lol everyone wasted their money and is now trying to convince themselves it was worth it 😂
One of the most expensive movies of all time and it was *“fine”* 💀
The dial is based on the Antikythera mechanism. Look it up, thank me later. 😊
Yeah, sorry.. but nothing about this movie is 'fine'. Plus, we should expect more from Lucasfilm than just fine. Give me a break.
Just 'fine' is unacceptable.. especially after Crystal Skull.
This movie should never have been made.
It's biggest offence is it being boring at times, and all the puzzle scenes feel like an after thought, really wish SPielberg got to make this one.
I dont have any real problems with the plot, character stuff, acting, etc.
But the action set pieces were overdone, and didnt gave the realistic charm of the older ones. The best part about the original action scenes was the slow punches, fighting dirty, etc. All while on sets that felt tangible. The action scebes in this movie were over the top and it felt like it was all happening in a closed off, intangible CGI void.
They either needed to commit to the crazy ass ending and leave Indy in the place he wanted to be left, or make the dial not actually have supernatural qualities. I'd have appreciated the twist of "oh the magic relic isn't actually magic this time"
this movie has two main characters, and two awful character arcs. One of them has a setup of an arc with no payoff, and one of them has a payoff with no setup. Both are equally terrible screenwriting flaws.
Ugh. But THATS the problem - it's just 'fine.' It could have been SO GREAT. They had all the pieces to make something so much better. One small change: replace Helena with grown-up Short Round.
Fine isn’t enough
Indiana Jones has also been a college professor since the first film right?
Yeah
😂😂😂😂
If you're going to follow up a GREAT movie like Raiders, every single entry has to be comparable, at least solidly GOOD. Or else it's inevitably disappointing. The Indiana Jones series exists because the first movie was so good; it set the bar. You have to meet that bar every time, not just be "good enough". It's perfectly reasonable for fans to expect a great movie out of Indiana Jones, because the whole franchise is based, and built, and sold, on greatness.
I bet you are extremely respectful when your wife's boyfriend comes over.
All a matter of opinion but I thought it was actively bad. Nonsensical plot and, Helena aside, unlikable characters. Was praying for it to end by the time they got on the plane.
I don't hate this movie, and I never will, since hating a movie generally involves watching it first.
I love Temple of Doom because Short Round is the best character
I have no idea why they tried to make Shia LeBouf Indy's successor when Ke Huy Quan is right there
def a bright spot in that dreary, depressing movie
Okie dokie dr jones
This take is not fine.
Dude, seriously. Write down what you want to say. You are just rambling here. And why would you start talking about a loaded subject such as "racial connotations" and then just go "ah, but I don't wanna talk about that!" Make up your mind, maybe? That is quite a big topic to just casually throw into the room. Order your thoughts. Write a script.
I thought it was fine by THAT punch at the end seriously made me dislike the movie
It should have been an actual Time travel movie where they travel back to each film
This channel is really filled with bad media takes
Paid hack shill says what?
Dial of Destiny is just boring with no interesting characters and weird story choices
i will never watch this movie
Good for you homie
Ok
Cool
*didn't ask*
300m for "fine" is simply not ok. The amount of terrible movies coming out recently is going to destroy cinemas. And the RUclips critic community should be ashamed of themselves. The amount of rhetoric, mostly hateful, spewed by you guys is just ridiculous
No its not fine... Imo its worse then crystal skull, the amount of force woke feminism in the movie is so frustrating and also watching indy himself taking a backseat in his own movie was terrible. The wombat character was not funny, charming or witty, she was annoying as hell
Crystal skull isn’t that bad tbh
But every side character sucked except for his best friend who got like 5 minutes of screen time