I've watched 5 reviews. The other four were either completely positive, or completely negative and they were longer videos than they needed to be. Thank you for a short and honest review.
I suppose the logical progression would be from the ramshackle attempts at forging a new society in this hostile world of the first one to a structured little empire, but it loses too much, I think. Will get it on sale, thanks for the quick rundown.
@@MEGAthemicro also found via steam review, your was on top. it seems script is the same, so maybe mention entire on top of the review that its available in video form. i would rather chose this
I don't really have anything to contribute; just wanted to thank you for the quick overview on the game. It helped me make an informed decision and I appreciate the brevity vs. the 40+ minute long other pieces of content on the game.
I generally agree. Having gotten 3 endings in FP2 so far and having 100%'d FP1, I definitely prefer the *intimacy* of FP1, but the scale and the of the novelty of FP2 will keep me playing for a while. It's not a *bad* game, some people will prefer FP1, some people will prefer FP2.
I would've preferred FP2 to have similar designs to FP1 but to expand and add more stuff. FP2 just feels like too big of a jump from FP1, leaving behind the mechanics i enjoyed from FP1
This is the first time I’ve seen one of your videos but the chart at 2:06 is a fantastic metric. It breaks down the individual parts of a game so well and is very easy to interpret and understand. Much better than the regular game review how they do 5 minutes of “pros” and 5 minutes of “cons” and just slap 7/10 at the end
I'll probably grab this at a discount but I don't imagine i'll like it more than the intimate survival that the first one went for. They are nailing the style even more in FP2 tho, looks cool.
Agreed, it looks awesome... from a distance. On zooming in, I did notice that the animations are a little rough with things like Frostbreakers jumping in and out of existence. But the overall effect is still a pretty one.
I really miss being able to see the individual people going to and from their work. How that blended with the soundtrack and the cold winds was atmosphere heaven. While this game looks like it has fun gameplay, I don't feel the crisis of survival. Getting a popup telling me that 134 people have died in an instant does not feel dramatic or compelling.
@@deadsec3554 nah rendering that much assets and calculating all of their paths would challenge even the better pc's. Time also moves at a rate of like 1day/3 seconds it would look goofy for all of them to walk slowly enough for you to see them. It just not worth the effort and the problems it causes so the 5% who have good enough pc's can see people walk
@@random_user98 I agree but why improve the graphics. Keep the same engine and make a new game with better mechanics and expand ? This constant need to push graphics is why we get dumbed down version.
@@deadsec3554 I'm not sure, I didn't really think the graphics were outstandingly good to the point where it might have impacted other parts of the game but I can't give an opinion on that issue as a whole. I don't play the big titles where the graphics are really impressive but lame gameplay, my pc couldn't run it anyway. I don't think this game falls into this category personally
I like the game and how it plays. Of course, I agree that the story could be more developed. The beginning cinematic suggests that New London becomes greedy and wants more, but this aspect feels lacking in the game itself. I also think that the factions could be fleshed out more. I know each faction has its own laws and research, but it would be cool to add mandates, similar to a small element from FP1, where failing to meet demands results in a hit on the trust level. Additionally, decisions could be fleshed out more. For instance, I had children working in mines, and then I received a message saying that the mines could collapse, losing 80% of production. However, if I blow air into them, I would kill 180 children, but the mines would remain open. I chose to blow air into them because there was no penalty on trust or faction. I think the game is good-not great-but it's fun to play. I hope the developers improve things along the way and restore some hope.
I kinda like that it's different from frostpunk 1. If I wanted to play the first game again, I would do that. I like that it's a bigger scope. I hope they continue this going forward and increase the scope even more if they do a fp3
They could have easily kept everything we love from the first one and expanded instead of doing this shit show. I mean other than the visuals this is not frost punk
This review is, from my perspective, perfect. You hit the nail on the head with the bland story, sadly they did literally nothing with the oil and went all out political story, which is bad af since they promoted oil so much. Also the mega city clutter comment feels pretty on point, I do not want to look at my city up close, because all that awaits me is clipping district buildings into streets, each other, and special buildings- But the sound is great. The exploration feels left in the dust tho, as there are no beautiful pictures anymore when you find something, just a little header up top, that repeats more than in FP1 endless. It's also weird how tech works in FP2, apparently the random automatons running around don't cost steamcores and hothouses require fertile soil now. There s nothing new steampnuk or even dieselpunk since it includes oil now. Overall I'd say they had a lot of potential and wasted it on a generic bland but for a few hours acceptable city builder.
Glad you liked the review! And thanks for your detailed thoughts, they all resonate with me, especially your observation about how the giant automatons just kinda pop up and have no bearing on your steamcores - seems like the devs just threw them in because they looked cool, not because they made any sense.
Yeah, I think I'd give the game's Value micrometric a 4/5 when it hits the $30 price point (which, admittedly, won't happen anytime soon). On the bright side, Frostpunk 1 is only $3 until 9/21!
Many issues are preventing the game from being playable for me. The top issue is the resolution adjustment that is locked in Window mode! I have an Ultra Wide Monitor and play many games that require onscreen navigation and selection in a Windowed 2560x1440 mode, and that option is not there! So now my only option is to play in 5120x1440, which is beyond tedious. I played FP1 with no problem in 2560x1440. Right now, the game is not playable for me, and there are other bugs. I should have waited and once again kicking myself for getting a game when it releases.
Update: 11 Bit Studies - Suggests I change the resolution in Full Screen to 2560 x 1440? What? This will cause screen distortion and will not address the issue. This option is available in Frostpunk and works perfectly. It is a coding issue. Very disappointed to get this suggestion from support. Continue to play Frostpunk until Frostpunk 2 issues are resolved.
For me personally, I was looking for more with Frostpunk 2 and I feel like they totally missed the mark here. I don't want some overview and generalized 'ruler-style' political stuff. I feel like there could have been a much better use for this and though I could sit here and provide a college-essay style break-down I will save everyone the time. This one, not for me. Maybe on G2A for 2.99$ or 90% off sale.
Anno has been doing the city builder genre basically the same way for over a decade, with each new title in the franchise adding more to the foundation of what the franchise has always been. So what could FP2 do? Remain a city builder and add to what FP1 offered. Just like SimCity, Cities Skylines, Anno, and pretty much all the other city builders that have more than one title in their respective franchise. I don't know what FP2 is, but it's not a city builder. At least not in the way that made FP1 popular.
@@random_user98 Bless your heart. You're trying so hard. You implied that I was saying it was a bad game because it's not like the first one. No struggle on my part, cupcake. No run along, troll. Waste your time making a reply to me that I'll never read. Cope and seethe.
@@skyesfury8511 lol okay sorry, for a moment there I tought I was talking with a respectable person, but this is some 5th grader type of stuff right here. I was just tryna have a normal convo but you are going out all offensive because we missunderstood each other and have different opinions. This is the mental capacity of a 10 year old at most, how sad to see. Best of day to you
This review pretty much sums up my thoughts perfectly. And I can see why 11bit didn't want to just remake FP1. They want their games to give a unique message. And not just recycle previous games. I find it refreshing to see them actually make a game deserving of the title of a sequel. Another plus, Modding support!
Not even close to frost punk, they threw out everything that we loved about the first one.....why how the fuck did it have a development this long and no one raised a flag.....ehhh guys this might be a bit too far off.
According to steam my computer needs a minimum of an i7 processor, But my PC is just a simple i3 processor, Therefore I can't download it cuz otherwise the graphics might look like trash
"I'm not mad... I'm just disappointed." Except, I'm really not. While Frostpunk 2 does fall short of its predecessor, it's still a pretty darn good city builder.
oh but you can. You can JUST copy paste the game. We wanted more frostpunk. not civ 6 with ice. Some of the changes made completely takes the core principles of the first game and throws it out the window. It would be ok to just update the game in a way where the buildings looks better, other narrative elements and keep the core gameplay.
I'm not sure I can agree. What you described sounds like a 4K remaster of the original game + another DLC narrative pack. If 11 bit spits that out after six years, many people would call it a cash grab. (For the record, I would love to play it.)
indeed, looks like a paradox but the game would have been more innovative if only it copied-paste the first game. there are a ton of games like FP2 already....
I hate CIV6 games. Anno 1800 and Frostpunk were good city builders. Frostpunk 2 is CIV6 wanna be... When I started the game with 3000 people I was like: wait WTF? Frostpunk 2 is a crashgrab in my book. I wanna collect every person, I wanna know them and build the city with them.
1:49 "What else could they do?" They could have kept closer to the vibe of the first game while making smaller tweaks to improve it and keep it fresh. Many great sequels use this formula. You don't have to go the lengths of changing the genre of a game to do a sequel.
Sure, and that is the boring choice. Making granular changes every sequel akin to the next year's Call of Duty. Avoiding creative risks as to not upset anyone with change. I liked that 11bit's artists chose to be bolder. Sequels can be more than reiterations. Frostpunk 1 is already an infinitely replayable cult classic, we can always go back to it for the classic recipe. There was far more for the world to gain by 11bit choosing to experiment with a new kind of recipe.
This game is a failure compared to fp1. I wanted a sequel for so long, never expected they could ruin the game they made. But it's bad... just like darkest dungeon 2. Devs can't make a hit twice, it seems.
It’s not feature complete yet. Give it a year or two in the oven. Seen this so many times with new games where they get compared to the first fully complete game and crapped on.
Games that don’t release complete should be crapped on. This is a complete package, you’re making excuses for no reason; it’s just a different take on the first hence the new perspective.
It is actually feature complete. The problem is that it has too many features, not too few. They tried to get too clever with it and missed the mark big time.
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I love the format of this review. It's very information-dense without being overwhelming.
I'm glad to hear that! That's exactly the tone I'm going for :)
I've watched 5 reviews. The other four were either completely positive, or completely negative and they were longer videos than they needed to be. Thank you for a short and honest review.
You're very welcome! Glad to hear you found it helpful, and thanks for watching :)
I suppose the logical progression would be from the ramshackle attempts at forging a new society in this hostile world of the first one to a structured little empire, but it loses too much, I think. Will get it on sale, thanks for the quick rundown.
You bet! I'd say $30 is probably the sweet spot for this game.
Saw your review on steam. :)
Same
Awesome! Glad you found the channel :) more reviews to come!
@@MEGAthemicro also found via steam review, your was on top. it seems script is the same, so maybe mention entire on top of the review that its available in video form. i would rather chose this
yeah, great marketing to increase view count!! :D
I don't really have anything to contribute; just wanted to thank you for the quick overview on the game. It helped me make an informed decision and I appreciate the brevity vs. the 40+ minute long other pieces of content on the game.
You're welcome! I don't have the patience (or attention span) for 40+ minute reviews myself, so I'm glad you enjoyed the shorter format :)
I generally agree. Having gotten 3 endings in FP2 so far and having 100%'d FP1, I definitely prefer the *intimacy* of FP1, but the scale and the of the novelty of FP2 will keep me playing for a while. It's not a *bad* game, some people will prefer FP1, some people will prefer FP2.
Yep! Well said.
I would've preferred FP2 to have similar designs to FP1 but to expand and add more stuff. FP2 just feels like too big of a jump from FP1, leaving behind the mechanics i enjoyed from FP1
Frostpunk 1: makes you feel the pain of loss of a small community
Frostpunk 2: makes you understand the apathy of turning people into numbers
Well put :)
Your steam review brought me here. Thanks.
You bet! Thanks for watching, and welcome to the channel :)
This is the first time I’ve seen one of your videos but the chart at 2:06 is a fantastic metric. It breaks down the individual parts of a game so well and is very easy to interpret and understand. Much better than the regular game review how they do 5 minutes of “pros” and 5 minutes of “cons” and just slap 7/10 at the end
Thanks! Glad to hear you like the scoring rubric. I started this channel in large part because I was frustrated by the very reviews you mentioned.
Here from Steam. Thanks for this review! I think i'll go back and play the first game and it's DLC's (again) :)
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoy your playthrough of FP1 :)
I'll probably grab this at a discount but I don't imagine i'll like it more than the intimate survival that the first one went for.
They are nailing the style even more in FP2 tho, looks cool.
Agreed, it looks awesome... from a distance. On zooming in, I did notice that the animations are a little rough with things like Frostbreakers jumping in and out of existence. But the overall effect is still a pretty one.
I really miss being able to see the individual people going to and from their work. How that blended with the soundtrack and the cold winds was atmosphere heaven. While this game looks like it has fun gameplay, I don't feel the crisis of survival. Getting a popup telling me that 134 people have died in an instant does not feel dramatic or compelling.
Well that's the cons of the bigger scale. Rendering all 100 thousand people would set your pc on fire lol
@@random_user98 More like set the consoles on fire. They dumbed it down so the consoles can run it well.
@@deadsec3554 nah rendering that much assets and calculating all of their paths would challenge even the better pc's. Time also moves at a rate of like 1day/3 seconds it would look goofy for all of them to walk slowly enough for you to see them. It just not worth the effort and the problems it causes so the 5% who have good enough pc's can see people walk
@@random_user98 I agree but why improve the graphics. Keep the same engine and make a new game with better mechanics and expand ? This constant need to push graphics is why we get dumbed down version.
@@deadsec3554 I'm not sure, I didn't really think the graphics were outstandingly good to the point where it might have impacted other parts of the game but I can't give an opinion on that issue as a whole. I don't play the big titles where the graphics are really impressive but lame gameplay, my pc couldn't run it anyway. I don't think this game falls into this category personally
first FrostPunk intro cinematic was epic. FrostPunk 2 intro cinematic was depressing
I like the game and how it plays. Of course, I agree that the story could be more developed. The beginning cinematic suggests that New London becomes greedy and wants more, but this aspect feels lacking in the game itself. I also think that the factions could be fleshed out more. I know each faction has its own laws and research, but it would be cool to add mandates, similar to a small element from FP1, where failing to meet demands results in a hit on the trust level.
Additionally, decisions could be fleshed out more. For instance, I had children working in mines, and then I received a message saying that the mines could collapse, losing 80% of production. However, if I blow air into them, I would kill 180 children, but the mines would remain open. I chose to blow air into them because there was no penalty on trust or faction.
I think the game is good-not great-but it's fun to play. I hope the developers improve things along the way and restore some hope.
Not sure I understand the bit about this being a "corrected version" of my review, but this is a nice mini-review nonetheless.
@@MEGAthemicro sorry I use chat gto for my dyslexia. Notting todo with your review. Ps pardon me again.
Oh! No problem at all. Thanks for your comment :)
game constantly crashes
Good review. Here's some eNgAgEmEnT!
Thank you, sir, may I have another!
Could you please let us know how much gameplay hours the game is currently. How many scenarios can we play and a review for each if possible
There's only one scenario split up into 5 "chapters" and an endless mode
3:00
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Came from the review on steam. Love the vid
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the review and welcome to the channel :)
Well that's disappointing. I was really looking forward to this game being as good as its predecessor. Thanks for the balanced review.
You're welcome! And sorry to disappoint :/
I kinda like that it's different from frostpunk 1. If I wanted to play the first game again, I would do that. I like that it's a bigger scope. I hope they continue this going forward and increase the scope even more if they do a fp3
They could have easily kept everything we love from the first one and expanded instead of doing this shit show. I mean other than the visuals this is not frost punk
This review is, from my perspective, perfect. You hit the nail on the head with the bland story, sadly they did literally nothing with the oil and went all out political story, which is bad af since they promoted oil so much. Also the mega city clutter comment feels pretty on point, I do not want to look at my city up close, because all that awaits me is clipping district buildings into streets, each other, and special buildings- But the sound is great. The exploration feels left in the dust tho, as there are no beautiful pictures anymore when you find something, just a little header up top, that repeats more than in FP1 endless. It's also weird how tech works in FP2, apparently the random automatons running around don't cost steamcores and hothouses require fertile soil now. There
s nothing new steampnuk or even dieselpunk since it includes oil now. Overall I'd say they had a lot of potential and wasted it on a generic bland but for a few hours acceptable city builder.
Glad you liked the review! And thanks for your detailed thoughts, they all resonate with me, especially your observation about how the giant automatons just kinda pop up and have no bearing on your steamcores - seems like the devs just threw them in because they looked cool, not because they made any sense.
@@MEGAthemicro Biggest flaw i'd say, 0 oil tech/tech tree. (No composites and coal to oil don't count lol)
Definitely a worse game than the first but not necessarily bad, probably will get it on a sale in a few years but its not enough to spend £40 on
Yeah, I think I'd give the game's Value micrometric a 4/5 when it hits the $30 price point (which, admittedly, won't happen anytime soon).
On the bright side, Frostpunk 1 is only $3 until 9/21!
@MEGAthemicro played that to death already! Fantastic game, just have to justify spending £47 on space marine to myself when payday hits tomorrow 😅
why worse??
@blastofo not as personal by the looks of it, looks like a reasonable city builder but it's not like every life matters etc
Its on gamepass.
Many issues are preventing the game from being playable for me. The top issue is the resolution adjustment that is locked in Window mode! I have an Ultra Wide Monitor and play many games that require onscreen navigation and selection in a Windowed 2560x1440 mode, and that option is not there! So now my only option is to play in 5120x1440, which is beyond tedious. I played FP1 with no problem in 2560x1440. Right now, the game is not playable for me, and there are other bugs. I should have waited and once again kicking myself for getting a game when it releases.
Update: 11 Bit Studies - Suggests I change the resolution in Full Screen to 2560 x 1440? What? This will cause screen distortion and will not address the issue. This option is available in Frostpunk and works perfectly. It is a coding issue. Very disappointed to get this suggestion from support. Continue to play Frostpunk until Frostpunk 2 issues are resolved.
I'm sorry to hear you're having that problem :/ is it too late for you to refund the game?
@@MEGAthemicro Someone suggested using "windowed Borderless Gaming". I haven't used this for some time, but it worked, and everything is fine now.
For me personally, I was looking for more with Frostpunk 2 and I feel like they totally missed the mark here. I don't want some overview and generalized 'ruler-style' political stuff. I feel like there could have been a much better use for this and though I could sit here and provide a college-essay style break-down I will save everyone the time. This one, not for me. Maybe on G2A for 2.99$ or 90% off sale.
Anno has been doing the city builder genre basically the same way for over a decade, with each new title in the franchise adding more to the foundation of what the franchise has always been. So what could FP2 do? Remain a city builder and add to what FP1 offered. Just like SimCity, Cities Skylines, Anno, and pretty much all the other city builders that have more than one title in their respective franchise.
I don't know what FP2 is, but it's not a city builder. At least not in the way that made FP1 popular.
All you're saying is that it's different from the first which in my eyes is a good thing
@@random_user98 If that's your interpretation, you didn't understand what I said. You also failed to understand that I didn't say it was a bad game.
@@skyesfury8511 you seem to be the one struggling since nowhere did I accuse you of saying it's a bad game
@@random_user98 Bless your heart. You're trying so hard.
You implied that I was saying it was a bad game because it's not like the first one. No struggle on my part, cupcake. No run along, troll. Waste your time making a reply to me that I'll never read. Cope and seethe.
@@skyesfury8511 lol okay sorry, for a moment there I tought I was talking with a respectable person, but this is some 5th grader type of stuff right here. I was just tryna have a normal convo but you are going out all offensive because we missunderstood each other and have different opinions. This is the mental capacity of a 10 year old at most, how sad to see. Best of day to you
This review pretty much sums up my thoughts perfectly.
And I can see why 11bit didn't want to just remake FP1. They want their games to give a unique message. And not just recycle previous games.
I find it refreshing to see them actually make a game deserving of the title of a sequel.
Another plus, Modding support!
Agreed! I think it's a worthy sequel, though I can understand the frustrations many have voiced with its direction. Can't please 'em all!
Not even close to frost punk, they threw out everything that we loved about the first one.....why how the fuck did it have a development this long and no one raised a flag.....ehhh guys this might be a bit too far off.
According to steam my computer needs a minimum of an i7 processor,
But my PC is just a simple i3 processor,
Therefore I can't download it cuz otherwise the graphics might look like trash
Oh...... :-(
"I'm not mad... I'm just disappointed."
Except, I'm really not. While Frostpunk 2 does fall short of its predecessor, it's still a pretty darn good city builder.
oh but you can. You can JUST copy paste the game. We wanted more frostpunk. not civ 6 with ice. Some of the changes made completely takes the core principles of the first game and throws it out the window. It would be ok to just update the game in a way where the buildings looks better, other narrative elements and keep the core gameplay.
I'm not sure I can agree. What you described sounds like a 4K remaster of the original game + another DLC narrative pack. If 11 bit spits that out after six years, many people would call it a cash grab. (For the record, I would love to play it.)
Hard disagree
indeed, looks like a paradox but the game would have been more innovative if only it copied-paste the first game. there are a ton of games like FP2 already....
I hate CIV6 games. Anno 1800 and Frostpunk were good city builders. Frostpunk 2 is CIV6 wanna be... When I started the game with 3000 people I was like: wait WTF? Frostpunk 2 is a crashgrab in my book. I wanna collect every person, I wanna know them and build the city with them.
And NOT worse. L take
1:49 "What else could they do?"
They could have kept closer to the vibe of the first game while making smaller tweaks to improve it and keep it fresh. Many great sequels use this formula. You don't have to go the lengths of changing the genre of a game to do a sequel.
Sure, and that is the boring choice. Making granular changes every sequel akin to the next year's Call of Duty. Avoiding creative risks as to not upset anyone with change. I liked that 11bit's artists chose to be bolder. Sequels can be more than reiterations. Frostpunk 1 is already an infinitely replayable cult classic, we can always go back to it for the classic recipe. There was far more for the world to gain by 11bit choosing to experiment with a new kind of recipe.
This game is a failure compared to fp1.
I wanted a sequel for so long, never expected they could ruin the game they made. But it's bad... just like darkest dungeon 2.
Devs can't make a hit twice, it seems.
It’s not feature complete yet. Give it a year or two in the oven. Seen this so many times with new games where they get compared to the first fully complete game and crapped on.
Games that don’t release complete should be crapped on. This is a complete package, you’re making excuses for no reason; it’s just a different take on the first hence the new perspective.
@Caiddenn we shouldn't encourage developers hastily putting out unfinished products.
Would you buy a half finished car? Just the 50% of random parts and wait for 2 years before you can actually drive it?
It is actually feature complete. The problem is that it has too many features, not too few. They tried to get too clever with it and missed the mark big time.
Sounds like this game SUCKS....thanks for the warning and a hard pass for me.
You somehow missed the entire point of the review nice