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I don't care because of how much better jake is now, it wouldn't even be competitive. Back then it would've been great, but they left it way too long lol But you never know I guess, maybe the way ksi fights will throw jake off?
That is the hope but obviously Jake wont take the fight bc he knows ksi will fuck him up at that weight so he wants to weight bully ksi to have a power advantage
when has jake paul fought at 190. U picked that number specifically so the middle number would be 185. jake paul fights at 200 now, twat. 185 would be fine in 2021/2022 when jake was actually fighting at that weight. The middle number between 180 and 200 is 190
@@foresvele by you Logic You critique Jake for being a weight bully but want to see jake fight ksi who is smaller? By your logic that fight shouldn’t even happened tbh, Jake feels more comfortable at the 190 maybe 195 range, and he feels drained at 185 why would he put himself in that situation, and lets be real cutting weight is worst than gaining weight
@@foresvelewhat evidence do you have that KSI will ‘fuck him up’ at that weight? He’s cleanly knocked out Temper, and that’s it. I’m a massive KSI fan, but saying that is just wrong in my opinion
@@rrr._.4626 He did, he agreed to 70 but hes a side, then agreed to 75 but JJ is a side and it happens in america, then it jumped to 85 but JJ is a side and it happens in Watford and now he wants 195 with no specification on who is A side
@@TheWhiteNinjaHDGamingJake posted a video to his Twitter of him saying he’ll go to London he’ll be A side at 180. Then some point after the KSI temper fight he said on a twitter space that hed only fight jj at 185
@extraterrestrialhorse9722 he didn't mention that jake said that a month ago. Feels like wade is playing favourites. That's a very important detail. I guess if jake pays you to be on events you gotta make him look good. There was another instance in the video where he did the same thing at the beginning.
Jake said he can still make 185 a month or 2 ago. Plus, Jake's "bad performances" being because of the weight is just a sorry excuse and cope. He got outboxed by Tommy easily and he struggles with volume, which Nate had. Nothing to do with weight. He's just flawed and said flaws were exposed. Jake should just man up and take the 185 offer. His excuses aren't fooling anyone.
"Had nothing to do with weight" I agree Jake at that point would have lost regardless but insinuating it had nothing to do with weight when Jake had a bad weight cut, came 2 pounds under and gassed within 3 rounds (after going 8 with Silva) makes your take biased. Jake could have definetely performed better and probably thinks he could have beaten Tommy that night due to the weight. And it's not really a myth that Jake's power doesn't translate well to 185ish. Jake when he fought Andre, Ryan or Perry would have stopped Nate most likely.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 Jake listed a bunch of other excuses for the Tommy fight, I'm aware. I am also aware that Jake never signed the rematch clause that he put in the contract. He just listed off those excuses as a coping mechanism. He just got outboxed and he knows it. So I don't know why you feel entitled to label my take "bias". You can disagree, but trying to paint my take as bias is sorry move. Jake's flaws were simply exposed.
@@combatcentral7386 lol, liking your own comment. And it's not like Jake hasn't tried doing the Tommy rematch - Tommy was literally the first person asked for the Netflix card.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I didn't like my own comment. What are you talking about? Jake knows how stubborn Tommy is. If he really believed in his own excuses, he would've signed the rematch clause he put in the contract. He's just coping with the fact he got outboxed that night.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 before jake even asked about fury tommy came out and said he had a hand injury and was going to get surgery then jake tried to say tommy was ducking 😂
Because if he loses to KSI his career in boxing is pretty much dead. Jake can lose to anyone else and bounce back but if a RUclipsr beats him then whatever credibility he has is gone and nobody will care
@@Monkey_D_Nate that is true. Jake and his team tryna get people to buy into hype again since his loss to Tommy. And his method in doing that is by saying he plans to become world champion and fight canelo, in doing so people will have a reason to tune into his fights. Losing to KSI would foil his plans.
Jake is desperate for an mma fight he wants to do it bad but in reality he doesn't care much about ksi he just gets asked about him over and over for him 185 sucks
Wade needs to do a real sit down with Jake and KSI in the same room (like a faceoff) and wade can get these guys convinced to do the fight. And make an amazing RUclips video face to face about it.
“Jakes power doesn’t translate at 185”, I’m still not convinced he actually has any power because his knockouts are only ever against smaller or drained opponents or people over the age of 40
he definitely has some power, he did knock down tommy somewhat with a jab (somewhat) and knocked out nate who rarely gets dropped, but still his power is very much exaggerated because as u said he fights small old guys
Jake looks FAT at 200 pounds. He is not Lean in any fashion. Making 185 would not be hard for him. I think the “he doesn’t like how he fights” at 185 is BS. He needs the bigger weight to try to eat shots from KSI and that’s it. He’s trying to get a every advantage he can
Jake: lets fight at 180 KSI: ok Jake: nah lets fight at 185 KSI: lots of crying but ok Jake: well lets fight at 190 KSI: lots of crying but ok Jake: lets fight at 195 KSI: lots of crying but ok Jake: well lets fight at 200 KSI: bruh cmon thats too much Jake: KSI is ducking me
Jj has never had an issue with 185, jake has always been see-sawing back and forth between different weights to push the fight back as much as he can cause he doesnt want to fight jj
got it spot on really wade, jake’s a weight bully in a way and uses his power and advantage to ko his opponents i can see ksi’s frustration this fight just needs to happen man
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190 is KSI's worst performing weight as well, he last fought at 190 when he didn't have that karate style which uses ALOT of energy, why should KSI compromise and fight at Jake's optimal weight? and speaking of optimal weight 185 is a good weight for Jake if he wants to box 12 rounds with speed, (which he will have to do one day to be a world champion) look at him against Mike Perry, he's not going to be able to box with speed against high level boxers who push the pace for 12 rounds at that high weight, if he cuts rightly Jake's power will still translate at 185, he wanted 185, KSI agreed, make the fight and not excuses.
It always has been. They know once that fight is done no one will care about crossover boxing. People complain about it not happening without realizing the simple fact that the fight not happening is probably the best thing that is still happening to crossover boxing.
That's what I've been saying to I said meet in the middle 190 no excuses for anyone. Because back when it was 185 KSI wanted it at 180 let's not forget that
I mean ksi wanted it 175 but said 180 Jake said 185. Now Jake says 200? Brother wants a whole 15 pound difference now at a weight JJ has never fought at. It’s clear which one is ducking
@jzen8350 uhhhh KSI is still docking he's walking around at 205 Jake's at 212 we can go back and forth on the past all day but all that matters is to get this fight done 195 is a solid bargaining chip to end up at 190 lbs which is what I think he's doing. That's fair because one has to lose 15 lbs the other has to lose 22 lb . You can clearly see Mams and KSI are scared just from Mam's text the other day after Jake said he would do it at 195 and let everything else go I knew memes would send that back and say no 185 . This isn't rocket science we're only 10 lb apart meet at the middle no bulshit no excuses know you told me this in the past this and that. Shouldn't be that hard
@@MKSQUADofficial what a stupid thing to say. This fight agreement has been in the works for two years now. The only reason Jake is in the weight he is at rn is because he literally put on pounds of fat for Mike Tyson. Jake makes the excuse he can’t make 185 and then say that he wants to fight Nate in pfl at 185? If he can drop to 185 for Nate and then say he can’t when ksi is the topic it just sounds like a duck to me. There’s only one side who keeps going up asking for higher weight and one side who has said both 180 and 185 which Jake literally agreed to previously. If you can’t see which one is right then you are rather a fanboy or retarded
Jake should just go on an extreme weight cut and lose muscle mass so when he fights ksi it won't be a grueling weight cut and they both will be at a similar natural weight.
So he could get flogged? You can't just lose so much weight and to out and be your best. He is a heavy big guy. I don't even reckon he could get down that low.
@iceeeuuuu what you just typed is pure delusional. Not only can he get down that low, he can get even lower and has admitted to this multiple times. Jake Paul is lying because fight fans are gullible and slow
The fight isn't worth it for Jake and he knows it himself. Jake just want big names that he easily can beat and maybe get a fight for a real belt against a big name in boxing.
How much more does KSI have to comprimise to make the fight happen? I mean he offered to let jake be A side, have it in US, no rehydration, 50/50 split etc and have 185 lbs. And jake fans, why dont jake try and compromise for once?
@@XNAGP So if you're insinuating that Jake is A side and that he shouldn't comprimise at all. Then you could apply the same logic where Jake says he willing to let KSI be A side but only if the fight is st 195. So shouldn't KSI not comprimise on the weight and the fight should be 180?
Jake keeps upping the weight every time they come even remotely close to a deal, it is so obvious that it's his side stopping the fight from happening.
If were using the excuse that jake dosent feel comfortable at 185 so he shouldnt make the compromise then ksi and his team can use the same excuse aswell. Ksi has only ever fought at a big weight once and he was fat because his body was struggling to carry the weight.
I’m sorry and I know that most people here prefer Jake over KSI, however I think Jake is being so immature and difficult regarding KSI fight. Seriously from what I can see KSI seems to be the one that always is the one to compromise in the negotiations. Jake should just give him the weight as Jake has fought at that weight twice. And Jake should just get this fight over with.
Weird how everyone calls ksi the duck , but seems like jake genuinely thinks ksi isnt worth the risk like true geordie said! Jake said he doesnt like awkward fighters
Im hearing Jake said he would fight at 185 a month ago for nate diaz in MMA. So why the fuck can't he do that against KSI? KSI does like fighting past 180, jake doesnt like fighting below 190. sounds like 185 is perfect for me.
Jake fought better at 185lbs against Nate Diaz compared to how he fought against Perry at 200. Wade knows this, everybody knows it Edit: This video is just Wade trying to find excuses for Jake
Pretty sure KSI has stopped amusing the fight so I don't think he needs it, but Misfits might like you said. In one of his vids he mentioned it's never going to happen since Jake/jake's team just uses the possibility as a way to get eyes on Jake. So after Jake's latest event not doing so well and now Jake suddenly being interested in the KSI fight, kinda sounds like KSI might've been right. So Idk if it's to get attention or he actually wants the fight anymore. If there's 10 pounds between what they want I feel like there must be a way to make it if they really wanted it to happen, Idk. Pretty sure KSI's team also said no rehydration clause at one point so I feel like there must be a way if they want it badly enough. PS I'm pretty sure KSI was bulking to build muscle and go up in weight anyway so there must be a way to make it happen
If the ppv buys are to be believed, Jake needs the fight more to try and convince those following JJ and misfits to tune in to him boxing. No hate towards Jake as he is doing his thing and making money, but he doesn't fight boxers and as an influencer should be marketing himself as such
Man Jake is so full of crap Nate Diaz was an option after the Tommy fury fight but it wasn’t confirmed. Jake said it in his own tweet that “My team wanted me to take an easy fight like KSI” they definitely could have done it after Tommy
I never understood this argument that fighters, analysts and even the fanbase often make of "he's too big now, he's never going to make that weight again, it's impossible". It's like people forget about the fact that losing weight is something you can do outside of cutting water weight. Losing a few lbs of muscle mass is easy and there is nothing stopping any fighter from doing it. Yeah, you'll have to go on a large caloric deficit which isn't fun, but to claim "I can't do it" is just silly, it's about work ethic and commitment, like anything else. I realize I'm acting like an 'armchair expert', but this is still 100% true - the reason why fighters never go back down a weightclass (even when it makes perfect sense to do so) is because they're just lazy and they want the freedom to eat whatever they want off camp, which is partly why you often see loads of fighters, even top fighters, getting crazy fat when they're not in camp.
Jake simply has no discipline. Realistically jake should be competing at 175 pounds. He instead bulks all off-season and only worries about losing wieght during fight camp. if he kept his walking around wieght lower he'd be able to make 185, 175, maybe even 170
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
Paul was trying to get down to 175 (Pre Tommy that was the division he said he was going to become World Champion in) but after losing to Fury has gone the other way.. be interesting when he actually takes on a 50-50 fight because when he fights someone that is a genuine 200+ pounder he'll probably be found wanting and what his currently doing to these smaller UFC fighters will probably happen to him.
Honestly, even if they do finally fight in the future before or after gta vi gets released, I’m beyond caring about the two of them fighting each other.
For Jake it just has to start before a camp and before the actual cutting process He needs to trim down all that extra mass he likes to carry. Dudes frame is perfectly fine for 185 he just balloons up and doesn’t try and keep his frame light
We don't have to talk about this bullshit anymore - Jake doesn't need to fight JJ, JJ thinks he's still bigger / better than he is - this fight won't happen anytime soon. Unless Jake loses like 3 times, JJ stops boxing and 5 years later they revive this.
Both Jake and ksi want their way. However for Jake at 185 recently he looks drained at 185 and with ksi its always easier for him not to fight at 185 because both sides cant make an agreement for a official fight. I think If Jake gets down to 190 and stay around that range for a while he can easily make 185 and relearn how to fight at 185 healthy. However it will not happen as Jake isnt as interested in this fight anymore since he moved up in weight
If they have such big beef and one thinks he's better than the other so badly why don't they just fight at whatever weight they want. They hate each other so bad just get in the ring and fight fuck the weight.
The whole 'Argghh KSI fighting anyone apart from Jake is pointless and trash' narrative is dumb AF. This narrative is stupid, he doesn't own us anything to be only boxing Jake and while I am sick of this fight not happening I am happy for KSI to be fighting other people, Keeping active is crucial in boxing and we should want KSI and Jake both at their best not after a 8 month lay off. A gap of 3-4 months gives the needed time to recover physically and a warm up fight serves as a real assessment of the boxer and can help identify weaknesses to improve on and I know this whole sub reddit is 'argghh he only windmills' but its a lot more nuanced then that, the whole bladed stance thing while unconventional did allow him to avoid a lot of jabs, compared to the Logan 1 fight where he ate a lot of them and get on the inside more and he uses his footwork a lot more, that being said Jake still probably beats him. It keeps him in a competitive mindset and physical condition so we don't get FATNEEK big juicy booty KSI again, it’s better for his health, and the warm up fights offer an opportunity to test new strategies that can be employed in the big fight. That being said Slim as an opponent feels to easy and I do not see him doing much better the Temper, but there is loads of boxers just a bit bellow Tommy's level that he could use as a warm up f like Daniel Bocianski, Jordan Grant, Lewis Kelse. etc.... or maybe fight a mma fighter with boxing experience like Alex Piereira, Victor Beltfort etc.....
Lol Alex Pereira would smoke KSI are you trying to get the man killed. And Vitor is an old man so he'd be looking as bad as Jake there. Slim is a better fight than anyone ksi has fought besides Tommy
@@tsgrapiidz6970 what it means is that they are possibly on a very similar level. Not complete mismatches. But clearly all you care about is the wins or losses on paper although slim has never lost so you're now working on fantasy
@@tsgrapiidz6970 sure? We all know Tommy is trash at boxing. That's what holds us back from giving Jake too much credit. Wants to be considered great but can't even beat Tommy fury
I personally think it should be done at 190 , 185 for Jake would be doable but very difficult to make Jake walks at 220ish pounds and had to bulk up to 230 for Tyson
Crossing my fingers for them to agree to 185-190. 195 would be extremely unfair to JJ but I can also now see why 185 would be difficult for Jake. That being said, weight cutting, even though it’s awful, it’s a part of combat sports, and Jake would ballon back up if there wasn’t a rehydration clause, hypothetically. I’m still excited for this fight, I still want to see it happen, but just like for others, my patience is wearing thin. It’s gotta happen.
This fight will never happen. Jake refuses to go below 190 and KSI refuses to go above 185. Neither care about the location or who’s A side. Nobody is going to concede for the weight because neither fighter needs this anymore. KSI doesn’t even care about boxing much anymore, Jake just wants to fight old ass legends
i do want to say it a little weird that logan doesnt want him to fight ksi when the beginning of this journey for jake was with this beef between him and ksi and jake getting that revenge (i understand the context of prime but that's just not really adding up to me personally) i do hope that when ksi is healthy him and jake can come to a genuine agreement and get this fight done. both want it.. everyone else wants it.
Why not agree to 185 at weigh in day but allow jake the rehydration clause of 10 punds maximum that way hes not gassed on fight day he would probably go up 5 pounds so his stamina isnt bad because of dehydration
This fight won’t happen. I don’t think they will ever agree on a weight, and everything in general. Egos are to big. Also I don’t think Jake or ksi is ducking they jus can’t agree on anything
I don't think a 5lb difference between the two would be a huge problem, I'd say if they really wanna make the fight they could agree to a catch weight or whatever its called where KSI can weigh in at 187.5 lb's and Jake at 192.5 lb's with a rehydration clause so that Jake can't balloon up to 200 or whatever. I say this because if KSI wants a lower weight than that, then Jake will definitely want a no rehydration clause which will just make the weight difference even bigger and more unfair for KSI. The only other way I see this happening is if Jake somehow finds a way to reallocate his weight in his body so that he can maintain the strength/power in his legs and arms, because he's definitely got some fat in some places he doesn't need.. So if he could just figure out a way to burn that fat so he can retain as much muscle as possible to make 185 IDK how else this fight could happen for them to both be comfortable. One thing is for sure though. This fight ain't happening before June of next year, maybe even the end of the year. Because he's going to bulk back up to 220 ish for Mike and there is no way in hell he's going to willingly drop 30 pounds in a Healthy & Comfortable way before then. Also he wants to remain as active as possible so if him and KSI can't come to an agreement close to the M.T. fight he'll more than likely book another fight before he fights KSI.
It’s incredibly big advantage if ksi gets Jake to drop to 185 think about this jj fights at 185 all the time Jake rn it walking at 200lbs+ it’s a very difficult weight cut
3:01 he says he wants to fight canelo and McGregor but at 6:40 he says he will never fight at 185 again. The highest weight canelo had ever fought is 175 and McGregors highest is 170. Canelo is never getting to 185 or higher and neither is McGregor. So Jake not wanting to fight ksi at 185 is okay as long as he doesn't come back in a few years and fight canelo or McGregor at lower weights. the excuse he will say is it was too big of an opportunity to pass up but so is the ksi fight
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jake is not 212 lmao he is like 220 to 225 atleast, ksi is not walking around 205 rn he is probably like 190 max
@danix9589 anyone would think he has no clue.. 🤷♂️🤔
Both of these dudes are so childish, this fight should’ve happened years ago. Most people don’t even care anymore
Yeah they’re more alike than they realize
It’s a win win fight because either would be very satisfying to see lose.
No one cares anymore true but as soon as the fight gets announced, EVERYONE will tune in.
@@DamienCruz8797 jp didn't screw his bros girl
I don't care because of how much better jake is now, it wouldn't even be competitive. Back then it would've been great, but they left it way too long lol But you never know I guess, maybe the way ksi fights will throw jake off?
Okay sooooo. We don't have to talk...because it's never gonna happend 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wade has to talk for the views
The fight is 185 to be fair for both fighters. I won't hear otherwise. Jake's fought mostly at 190, ksi fought mostly at 180, meet in the middle 185
That is the hope but obviously Jake wont take the fight bc he knows ksi will fuck him up at that weight so he wants to weight bully ksi to have a power advantage
when has jake paul fought at 190. U picked that number specifically so the middle number would be 185. jake paul fights at 200 now, twat. 185 would be fine in 2021/2022 when jake was actually fighting at that weight. The middle number between 180 and 200 is 190
@@foresvele by you Logic You critique Jake for being a weight bully but want to see jake fight ksi who is smaller? By your logic that fight shouldn’t even happened tbh, Jake feels more comfortable at the 190 maybe 195 range, and he feels drained at 185 why would he put himself in that situation, and lets be real cutting weight is worst than gaining weight
@@foresvelewhat evidence do you have that KSI will ‘fuck him up’ at that weight? He’s cleanly knocked out Temper, and that’s it. I’m a massive KSI fan, but saying that is just wrong in my opinion
Jake only had 2 fights at 185 and had the worst performance at that it’s unfair 190 is literally perfect
We really gonna get GTA 6 before Jake Paul vs KSI
Probably
This is the most candid response from Jake about this
Jake managed to speak about this without using the word ‘ducking’
No one is ducking Jake wants 200 cuz it’s to his advantage ksi has never fought at 190-200 185 is perfect for Both
@@Ghost_LeRat nah I know that, but every time they speak about the fight they all use the word ‘ducking’ when in reality no one is ducking any of them
@@Ghost_LeRat thats as lie he fought logan at 193. They should fight at 190.
@@ScottYoung29ksi literally threw gib in and ran away to sing holiday 😂.
@@zeeshaanhussain4521 i guess if call that a fight they were both shit back then and they didn’t know how to fight
“We both agreed to 185”
Years after you agreed to 170… then 175…. then 180 😂
Proof?
Don’t think he ever agreed to 70 or 75 at any point but yeah this needs to happen at 85 already
@@rrr._.4626 He did, he agreed to 70 but hes a side, then agreed to 75 but JJ is a side and it happens in america, then it jumped to 85 but JJ is a side and it happens in Watford and now he wants 195 with no specification on who is A side
then jake wanted 200🤷🏾♂️☠️
@@TheWhiteNinjaHDGamingJake posted a video to his Twitter of him saying he’ll go to London he’ll be A side at 180. Then some point after the KSI temper fight he said on a twitter space that hed only fight jj at 185
You can’t be doing this with that title. The notification nearly sent me in a coma
I think if Jake fights KSI he wants to ensure he knocks him out, and he can’t do that at 185
KEEP IN MIND: Jake Paul just said he wants to fight Nate Diaz in MMA at 185 a MONTH AGO. He can make 185. Jake's straight up lying
Wade adressed it
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I know
@extraterrestrialhorse9722 he didn't mention that jake said that a month ago. Feels like wade is playing favourites. That's a very important detail. I guess if jake pays you to be on events you gotta make him look good. There was another instance in the video where he did the same thing at the beginning.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm I do think Wade is a bit Jake-biased
He has Jake in his dms. He's talked about this in the past. There's a fine line between connections and being somebody's btch. Wade's Jake's Ack
Video starts at 3:00
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Lords work
Thank you I skipped so much
They agreed to fight after Tommy Fury but then Jake changed his mind
Facts both teams agreed to it after jake lose to tommy but he ran to fight Diaz with the reasoning of wanting a ‘bigger name’
Jake said he can still make 185 a month or 2 ago. Plus, Jake's "bad performances" being because of the weight is just a sorry excuse and cope. He got outboxed by Tommy easily and he struggles with volume, which Nate had. Nothing to do with weight. He's just flawed and said flaws were exposed. Jake should just man up and take the 185 offer. His excuses aren't fooling anyone.
"Had nothing to do with weight" I agree Jake at that point would have lost regardless but insinuating it had nothing to do with weight when Jake had a bad weight cut, came 2 pounds under and gassed within 3 rounds (after going 8 with Silva) makes your take biased. Jake could have definetely performed better and probably thinks he could have beaten Tommy that night due to the weight.
And it's not really a myth that Jake's power doesn't translate well to 185ish. Jake when he fought Andre, Ryan or Perry would have stopped Nate most likely.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 Jake listed a bunch of other excuses for the Tommy fight, I'm aware. I am also aware that Jake never signed the rematch clause that he put in the contract. He just listed off those excuses as a coping mechanism. He just got outboxed and he knows it. So I don't know why you feel entitled to label my take "bias". You can disagree, but trying to paint my take as bias is sorry move. Jake's flaws were simply exposed.
@@combatcentral7386 lol, liking your own comment.
And it's not like Jake hasn't tried doing the Tommy rematch - Tommy was literally the first person asked for the Netflix card.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I didn't like my own comment. What are you talking about?
Jake knows how stubborn Tommy is. If he really believed in his own excuses, he would've signed the rematch clause he put in the contract. He's just coping with the fact he got outboxed that night.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 before jake even asked about fury tommy came out and said he had a hand injury and was going to get surgery then jake tried to say tommy was ducking 😂
Rent is due, time for another jake paul v ksi video
Wade and sensi should bring on Jake and ksi on the breakdown and help negotiate a fight deal
Or true Gordie should get them together
@@benjaminphillips9872 not the dilldo boy with a Ksi bias
@benjaminphillips9872 true geordie would expose jake massively
@@josephhunter1627 for what?
@@josephhunter1627 How?
Just last month, Jake said in the podcast hell fight nate diaz at 185 in mma?
So why cant he make 185 for KSI?
Because if he loses to KSI his career in boxing is pretty much dead. Jake can lose to anyone else and bounce back but if a RUclipsr beats him then whatever credibility he has is gone and nobody will care
By Wade's words: "I don't know". He meant: ducking 😂
@@Monkey_D_Nate that is true. Jake and his team tryna get people to buy into hype again since his loss to Tommy. And his method in doing that is by saying he plans to become world champion and fight canelo, in doing so people will have a reason to tune into his fights. Losing to KSI would foil his plans.
Jake is desperate for an mma fight he wants to do it bad but in reality he doesn't care much about ksi he just gets asked about him over and over for him 185 sucks
@@Monkey_D_NateExactly both of them don’t want the loss
Wade needs to do a real sit down with Jake and KSI in the same room (like a faceoff) and wade can get these guys convinced to do the fight. And make an amazing RUclips video face to face about it.
Facts!
Wade knows what he's doing with that title lmao 😂
Well yes
He's needs to milk this to death in my opinion
Damn Liam you’re so intelligent
He’s milking the shi outa that title 😂
He knows what he’s doing saying he doesn’t want to talk about it then uses a click bait title and ad promos 😂😂
Jake the 🦆 and weight bully. Can’t respect wade if he can’t call out jake on his bs like how he did for jj
“Jakes power doesn’t translate at 185”, I’m still not convinced he actually has any power because his knockouts are only ever against smaller or drained opponents or people over the age of 40
he definitely has some power, he did knock down tommy somewhat with a jab (somewhat) and knocked out nate who rarely gets dropped, but still his power is very much exaggerated because as u said he fights small old guys
@@prodrt1 Tommy's was a slip, let's not pretend here.
@@valley2129so getting punched and get knocked off your feet is a slip😂
@@prodrt1 Knocked down, he didn't KO Nate
@@SLAYERZ2K His knee didn't even touch the ground. He just got caught off balance, there was no real power in the shot, it was just an accurate jab
Jake looks FAT at 200 pounds. He is not Lean in any fashion. Making 185 would not be hard for him. I think the “he doesn’t like how he fights” at 185 is BS. He needs the bigger weight to try to eat shots from KSI and that’s it. He’s trying to get a every advantage he can
Jake: lets fight at 180
KSI: ok
Jake: nah lets fight at 185
KSI: lots of crying but ok
Jake: well lets fight at 190
KSI: lots of crying but ok
Jake: lets fight at 195
KSI: lots of crying but ok
Jake: well lets fight at 200
KSI: bruh cmon thats too much
Jake: KSI is ducking me
@@karelvavra9617 jake would slap ksi head off
5 videos on KSI in the last 2 weeks is insane.
Jj has never had an issue with 185, jake has always been see-sawing back and forth between different weights to push the fight back as much as he can cause he doesnt want to fight jj
got it spot on really wade, jake’s a weight bully in a way and uses his power and advantage to ko his opponents i can see ksi’s frustration this fight just needs to happen man
So Jake won't fight Tommy again as Tommy doesn't fight at 195, but at 175-185.
Was supposed to happen after jakes loss to tommy but he ran to fight Diaz telling his team he wants a ‘bigger name’
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190 is KSI's worst performing weight as well, he last fought at 190 when he didn't have that karate style which uses ALOT of energy, why should KSI compromise and fight at Jake's optimal weight? and speaking of optimal weight 185 is a good weight for Jake if he wants to box 12 rounds with speed, (which he will have to do one day to be a world champion) look at him against Mike Perry, he's not going to be able to box with speed against high level boxers who push the pace for 12 rounds at that high weight, if he cuts rightly Jake's power will still translate at 185, he wanted 185, KSI agreed, make the fight and not excuses.
It always has been. They know once that fight is done no one will care about crossover boxing. People complain about it not happening without realizing the simple fact that the fight not happening is probably the best thing that is still happening to crossover boxing.
Either 185 with no hydration clause or 190-195 with hydration clause
MVP x Prime, thats why this Fight will never happen.
That's what I've been saying to I said meet in the middle 190 no excuses for anyone. Because back when it was 185 KSI wanted it at 180 let's not forget that
I mean ksi wanted it 175 but said 180 Jake said 185. Now Jake says 200? Brother wants a whole 15 pound difference now at a weight JJ has never fought at. It’s clear which one is ducking
@jzen8350 uhhhh KSI is still docking he's walking around at 205 Jake's at 212 we can go back and forth on the past all day but all that matters is to get this fight done 195 is a solid bargaining chip to end up at 190 lbs which is what I think he's doing. That's fair because one has to lose 15 lbs the other has to lose 22 lb . You can clearly see Mams and KSI are scared just from Mam's text the other day after Jake said he would do it at 195 and let everything else go I knew memes would send that back and say no 185 . This isn't rocket science we're only 10 lb apart meet at the middle no bulshit no excuses know you told me this in the past this and that. Shouldn't be that hard
@@MKSQUADofficial what a stupid thing to say. This fight agreement has been in the works for two years now. The only reason Jake is in the weight he is at rn is because he literally put on pounds of fat for Mike Tyson. Jake makes the excuse he can’t make 185 and then say that he wants to fight Nate in pfl at 185? If he can drop to 185 for Nate and then say he can’t when ksi is the topic it just sounds like a duck to me. There’s only one side who keeps going up asking for higher weight and one side who has said both 180 and 185 which Jake literally agreed to previously. If you can’t see which one is right then you are rather a fanboy or retarded
Jake should just go on an extreme weight cut and lose muscle mass so when he fights ksi it won't be a grueling weight cut and they both will be at a similar natural weight.
So he could get flogged? You can't just lose so much weight and to out and be your best. He is a heavy big guy. I don't even reckon he could get down that low.
@iceeeuuuu what you just typed is pure delusional. Not only can he get down that low, he can get even lower and has admitted to this multiple times. Jake Paul is lying because fight fans are gullible and slow
The fight isn't worth it for Jake and he knows it himself. Jake just want big names that he easily can beat and maybe get a fight for a real belt against a big name in boxing.
If they really want it to happen it needs to be 185, if Jake really wants it
“Will they ever come to a compromise.” How many compromises does KSI have to come too? Give it a rest Wade “MVP” Plem.
How much more does KSI have to comprimise to make the fight happen?
I mean he offered to let jake be A side, have it in US, no rehydration, 50/50 split etc and have 185 lbs.
And jake fans, why dont jake try and compromise for once?
A side dont need to comprimise shits, how is that so hard to understand?
@@XNAGP So if you're insinuating that Jake is A side and that he shouldn't comprimise at all. Then you could apply the same logic where Jake says he willing to let KSI be A side but only if the fight is st 195. So shouldn't KSI not comprimise on the weight and the fight should be 180?
@@Deathninja-et4hz exactly. He compromised for the tommy fight as well
@@Deathninja-et4hz whos the real a side Jake or KSI? Thats enough to answer your argument, not this 'passing around a side bullshit'.
@XNAGP Jake said KSI can be the a-side. Therefore KSI dictates the terms. 185 it is
Yeah,yeah. U got me with the thumbnail lol i clicked so fast, by the time it registered it was to late. 😂
Jake keeps upping the weight every time they come even remotely close to a deal, it is so obvious that it's his side stopping the fight from happening.
If were using the excuse that jake dosent feel comfortable at 185 so he shouldnt make the compromise then ksi and his team can use the same excuse aswell. Ksi has only ever fought at a big weight once and he was fat because his body was struggling to carry the weight.
I’m sorry and I know that most people here prefer Jake over KSI, however I think Jake is being so immature and difficult regarding KSI fight. Seriously from what I can see KSI seems to be the one that always is the one to compromise in the negotiations. Jake should just give him the weight as Jake has fought at that weight twice. And Jake should just get this fight over with.
Clever title
I know people disagree with this, but they are ducking each other, It is as simple as that. The ppv numbers for this fight would be insane.
Theres a bigger chance for me winning the lotto than for Jake vs KSI to happen!
Not really concurring you probably aren’t even old enough to take part🤣
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Weird how everyone calls ksi the duck , but seems like jake genuinely thinks ksi isnt worth the risk like true geordie said! Jake said he doesnt like awkward fighters
He 100% could make it! Ppl cut 30lbs all the time and Jake's more fat than muscle. He just doesn't want to which is understandable.
Ksi couldn't even make 185lbs vs Tommy (183lbs) What makes wade think 190lbs is remotely realistic in Ksi's camp?
I saw the description and ran so quick
Im hearing Jake said he would fight at 185 a month ago for nate diaz in MMA. So why the fuck can't he do that against KSI?
KSI does like fighting past 180, jake doesnt like fighting below 190. sounds like 185 is perfect for me.
Jake fought better at 185lbs against Nate Diaz compared to how he fought against Perry at 200. Wade knows this, everybody knows it
Edit: This video is just Wade trying to find excuses for Jake
Pretty sure KSI has stopped amusing the fight so I don't think he needs it, but Misfits might like you said. In one of his vids he mentioned it's never going to happen since Jake/jake's team just uses the possibility as a way to get eyes on Jake. So after Jake's latest event not doing so well and now Jake suddenly being interested in the KSI fight, kinda sounds like KSI might've been right.
So Idk if it's to get attention or he actually wants the fight anymore. If there's 10 pounds between what they want I feel like there must be a way to make it if they really wanted it to happen, Idk. Pretty sure KSI's team also said no rehydration clause at one point so I feel like there must be a way if they want it badly enough.
PS I'm pretty sure KSI was bulking to build muscle and go up in weight anyway so there must be a way to make it happen
If the ppv buys are to be believed, Jake needs the fight more to try and convince those following JJ and misfits to tune in to him boxing. No hate towards Jake as he is doing his thing and making money, but he doesn't fight boxers and as an influencer should be marketing himself as such
Man Jake is so full of crap Nate Diaz was an option after the Tommy fury fight but it wasn’t confirmed. Jake said it in his own tweet that “My team wanted me to take an easy fight like KSI” they definitely could have done it after Tommy
I never understood this argument that fighters, analysts and even the fanbase often make of "he's too big now, he's never going to make that weight again, it's impossible". It's like people forget about the fact that losing weight is something you can do outside of cutting water weight. Losing a few lbs of muscle mass is easy and there is nothing stopping any fighter from doing it. Yeah, you'll have to go on a large caloric deficit which isn't fun, but to claim "I can't do it" is just silly, it's about work ethic and commitment, like anything else. I realize I'm acting like an 'armchair expert', but this is still 100% true - the reason why fighters never go back down a weightclass (even when it makes perfect sense to do so) is because they're just lazy and they want the freedom to eat whatever they want off camp, which is partly why you often see loads of fighters, even top fighters, getting crazy fat when they're not in camp.
Join a boxing gym
Jake vs ksi needs to be middle ground 190-195
Means Jake goes down but jj gotta go up
Wade news 📰 back at it again with ksi and Jake news
Imagine not letting the fans have this fight over 5 pounds
they’re either going to agree to 195 or never fight each other
Wade ksi has fought 2 fights at 175 and 177
So Jake Paul is yet again wanting to fight a smaller man.
Wade: “l’m tired of talking about it but I will every 2 months because it makes me money and brings attention to my channel”
Jake simply has no discipline. Realistically jake should be competing at 175 pounds. He instead bulks all off-season and only worries about losing wieght during fight camp. if he kept his walking around wieght lower he'd be able to make 185, 175, maybe even 170
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
Influencer boxing has fallen off a cliff, people have lost interest because these two enjoy stalling so much. It ain't gonna happen imo
Paul was trying to get down to 175 (Pre Tommy that was the division he said he was going to become World Champion in) but after losing to Fury has gone the other way.. be interesting when he actually takes on a 50-50 fight because when he fights someone that is a genuine 200+ pounder he'll probably be found wanting and what his currently doing to these smaller UFC fighters will probably happen to him.
Wade u did an ad read for mando while reporting on Jake Paul who just launched W! Savage !! Haha
Seems like both of them offer to fight when they KNOW that the other cannot currently fight 😂
So Jake is willing to fight Nate at 185 but not KSI 😂?
i still smell you thru the screen wade
Honestly, even if they do finally fight in the future before or after gta vi gets released, I’m beyond caring about the two of them fighting each other.
Wade went with a different drink instead of prime. now his doing some Deodorant that's not W. This man's a troll 😂
For Jake it just has to start before a camp and before the actual cutting process
He needs to trim down all that extra mass he likes to carry. Dudes frame is perfectly fine for 185 he just balloons up and doesn’t try and keep his frame light
F_ck cutting weight,
make them fight at 250.
We don't have to talk about this bullshit anymore - Jake doesn't need to fight JJ, JJ thinks he's still bigger / better than he is - this fight won't happen anytime soon. Unless Jake loses like 3 times, JJ stops boxing and 5 years later they revive this.
Both Jake and ksi want their way. However for Jake at 185 recently he looks drained at 185 and with ksi its always easier for him not to fight at 185 because both sides cant make an agreement for a official fight. I think If Jake gets down to 190 and stay around that range for a while he can easily make 185 and relearn how to fight at 185 healthy. However it will not happen as Jake isnt as interested in this fight anymore since he moved up in weight
Wade getting crazy with the title now
These titles are getting crazzzyy my guy 💀
If they have such big beef and one thinks he's better than the other so badly why don't they just fight at whatever weight they want. They hate each other so bad just get in the ring and fight fuck the weight.
Keep up the work Wade
The whole 'Argghh KSI fighting anyone apart from Jake is pointless and trash' narrative is dumb AF.
This narrative is stupid, he doesn't own us anything to be only boxing Jake and while I am sick of this fight not happening I am happy for KSI to be fighting other people,
Keeping active is crucial in boxing and we should want KSI and Jake both at their best not after a 8 month lay off.
A gap of 3-4 months gives the needed time to recover physically and a warm up fight serves as a real assessment of the boxer and can help identify weaknesses to improve on and I know this whole sub reddit is 'argghh he only windmills' but its a lot more nuanced then that, the whole bladed stance thing while unconventional did allow him to avoid a lot of jabs, compared to the Logan 1 fight where he ate a lot of them and get on the inside more and he uses his footwork a lot more, that being said Jake still probably beats him.
It keeps him in a competitive mindset and physical condition so we don't get FATNEEK big juicy booty
KSI again, it’s better for his health, and the warm up fights offer an opportunity to test new strategies that can be employed in the big fight.
That being said Slim as an opponent feels to easy and I do not see him doing much better the Temper, but there is loads of boxers just a bit bellow Tommy's level that he could use as a warm up f like Daniel Bocianski, Jordan Grant, Lewis Kelse. etc.... or maybe fight a mma fighter with boxing experience like Alex Piereira, Victor Beltfort etc.....
Lol Alex Pereira would smoke KSI are you trying to get the man killed. And Vitor is an old man so he'd be looking as bad as Jake there. Slim is a better fight than anyone ksi has fought besides Tommy
@@tsgrapiidz6970firstly you don't know that and second ksi only just about beat him so what?
@@tsgrapiidz6970 what it means is that they are possibly on a very similar level. Not complete mismatches. But clearly all you care about is the wins or losses on paper although slim has never lost so you're now working on fantasy
@@tsgrapiidz6970 sure? We all know Tommy is trash at boxing. That's what holds us back from giving Jake too much credit. Wants to be considered great but can't even beat Tommy fury
This fight, if it were to happen, would have the highest gate and the most ppv's of all time for any boxing match ever.
I personally think it should be done at 190 , 185 for Jake would be doable but very difficult to make Jake walks at 220ish pounds and had to bulk up to 230 for Tyson
Let them just have an arm wrestling competition- that’s the only jake vs ksi we will ever have
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Crossing my fingers for them to agree to 185-190. 195 would be extremely unfair to JJ but I can also now see why 185 would be difficult for Jake. That being said, weight cutting, even though it’s awful, it’s a part of combat sports, and Jake would ballon back up if there wasn’t a rehydration clause, hypothetically. I’m still excited for this fight, I still want to see it happen, but just like for others, my patience is wearing thin. It’s gotta happen.
This fight will never happen. Jake refuses to go below 190 and KSI refuses to go above 185. Neither care about the location or who’s A side. Nobody is going to concede for the weight because neither fighter needs this anymore. KSI doesn’t even care about boxing much anymore, Jake just wants to fight old ass legends
i do want to say it a little weird that logan doesnt want him to fight ksi when the beginning of this journey for jake was with this beef between him and ksi and jake getting that revenge (i understand the context of prime but that's just not really adding up to me personally) i do hope that when ksi is healthy him and jake can come to a genuine agreement and get this fight done. both want it.. everyone else wants it.
Why not agree to 185 at weigh in day but allow jake the rehydration clause of 10 punds maximum that way hes not gassed on fight day he would probably go up 5 pounds so his stamina isnt bad because of dehydration
This fight won’t happen. I don’t think they will ever agree on a weight, and everything in general. Egos are to big. Also I don’t think Jake or ksi is ducking they jus can’t agree on anything
Someone’s team is jus gonna have to be the bigger man and say I’ll take the cut or the bulk
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would have to be at like 200 imo. I don't think KSI ever gonna even box again
a potential fight would happen at 190 I agree, but obviously, both sides have a preferred weight limit and 190 isn't on eithers list.
I don't think a 5lb difference between the two would be a huge problem, I'd say if they really wanna make the fight they could agree to a catch weight or whatever its called where KSI can weigh in at 187.5 lb's and Jake at 192.5 lb's with a rehydration clause so that Jake can't balloon up to 200 or whatever. I say this because if KSI wants a lower weight than that, then Jake will definitely want a no rehydration clause which will just make the weight difference even bigger and more unfair for KSI.
The only other way I see this happening is if Jake somehow finds a way to reallocate his weight in his body so that he can maintain the strength/power in his legs and arms, because he's definitely got some fat in some places he doesn't need.. So if he could just figure out a way to burn that fat so he can retain as much muscle as possible to make 185 IDK how else this fight could happen for them to both be comfortable.
One thing is for sure though. This fight ain't happening before June of next year, maybe even the end of the year. Because he's going to bulk back up to 220 ish for Mike and there is no way in hell he's going to willingly drop 30 pounds in a Healthy & Comfortable way before then. Also he wants to remain as active as possible so if him and KSI can't come to an agreement close to the M.T. fight he'll more than likely book another fight before he fights KSI.
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It’s incredibly big advantage if ksi gets Jake to drop to 185 think about this jj fights at 185 all the time Jake rn it walking at 200lbs+ it’s a very difficult weight cut
If you're tired of talking about it and we're tired of hearing about it, forget it, its not happening
3:01 he says he wants to fight canelo and McGregor but at 6:40 he says he will never fight at 185 again. The highest weight canelo had ever fought is 175 and McGregors highest is 170. Canelo is never getting to 185 or higher and neither is McGregor.
So Jake not wanting to fight ksi at 185 is okay as long as he doesn't come back in a few years and fight canelo or McGregor at lower weights. the excuse he will say is it was too big of an opportunity to pass up but so is the ksi fight
BBL wade always got the scoop, absolute goat