Top 10 NASCAR Busts (ft. Black Flags Matter)
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Busts are a natural part of every major sport. Whether that be for stick and ball sports or for auto racing. Today myself and fellow RUclipsr Black Flags Matter look back on which 10 drivers disappointed all of us the most. This is the top 10 NASCAR busts ft. Black Flags Matter
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Who do you think is the biggest NASCAR bust?
Danica
Dylan Kwasnieski
JJ Yeley, Quin Houff, Steve Wallace
Kyle larson lol
Danica, she just wasn't good.
Danica had potential, but got too wrapped up in being a brand. I remember being told once by a crew member on Danica's team "If they gave out points for posting pics of yoga and gluten free meals on Instagram, she'd be a 7-time champ", lol!
lmao
she was in SHR equipment!!
She was a great driver. Her qualies prove that. But crowd racing wasnt for her. I think she done well in indy. Many wins possibly contesting for titles.... possibly
@busch77 . . . Ah! It's good to see that you saw her potential that got derailed with her being a brand. I've always contended that if she had spent more time behind the wheel of a Cup racer to craft her driving/racing skills, rather than marketing herself as a brand . . . with all the distractions that went along with it, she'd have consistent top 10 potential.
Had Danica gotten her start in an earlier era of NASCAR, I feel that the team owner would have laid down the law on on her commitments: 'You either commit to being a full-time driver without the marketing distractions; or you can leave to pursue your marketing career, *but you have to choose which it is gonna be! As I won't allow you to split your time between driving and marketing.'*
Sadly, with the sponsorship monies that drivers can bring into race teams over the past two decades, the role of the team owner dictating the rules to the drivers has greatly diminished.
@@bloqk16 Danica did exactly what she should have been doing. She wasn't that great of a driver, so she made her money and got her sponsorships where she could-- with her looks.
She knew what people wanted from her, and she gave it to them. Smart as hell if you ask me.
"Before we had the infamous caution clock, we had Steve Wallace."
WOOOOW! xD wasn't expecting that roast! xD
I still remember the time someone tried to convince me David Gilliland was a bust. He's not, he joined Roush on is dive down to the gutter, he was consistently running what his equipment should and out ran it most times, and helped set the foundation for FRM for what they are today. He's the reason Loves is still with the team.
Yates*
It was Robert Yates Racing following Elliott Sadler moving to Evernham.
And he was trash as fuck
no one:
absolutely no one:
Ryan Blaney doing a Danica impression: *_DUDE… YOU JUST SPUN ME OUT… I thought we were friends… I thought we were friends…_*
*_yoga_*
I never thought I would see in my life, The Iceberg, make a NASCAR Busts type of video with the help of Darian Gilliam
I gotta say that watching Rusty as he was starting the pre-race show as the ARCA Serties hadn't taken the checkers at Michigan yet was really cool. Stephen was ta king the checkers as Rusty was broadcasting at the same time. Made for a very memorable ARCA moment !!!
#10: 0:40 Todd Kluever (#06)
#9: 2:05 Trevor Bayne (#21/6)
#8: 3:34 Scott Speed (#82/95)
#7: 4:39 Steve Wallace (#77)
#6: 5:43 JJ Yeley (#18/96)
#5: 6:53 Dylan Kwasniewski
#4: 8:29 Rob Moroso (#20)
#3: 10:06 Shane Hmiel (#23/08)
#2: 12:09 Casey Atwood (#19/7)
#1: 13:13 Danica Patrick (#10/7)
Definitely have to agree on Danica, however...Bayne being on this list might be a stretch
do you remember how bad he was in the 6 they had to get Matt Kenseth to come out of retirement to keep them in a good owners points position.....even though Roush wasn't as competitive he was running worse than drivers on underfunded teams
@@KMartReady yeah Trevor Bayne was awful, great guy though, but he's not a race car driver, not a good one at least...this was a really dumb comment that aged like milk.
Except, look how well he's running in top tier equipment with JGR
@@MB7908. yes he is, I'm impressed with him actually.
Its not just Danica, you could argue all these drivers had the development of their careers sacrificed for the hope of immediately bringing in a new audience and to make immediate profit
that and danica was just not good in the giant 2-tonne metal bricks that are a nascar stock car. she was much better in Indycars.
I always thought Danica’s biggest mistake was moving to stock cars in the first place. She probably could have had a longer and more successful career if she’d stuck with IndyCar.
But she would’ve made a lot less money. And I can’t blame her for taking a shot at it, but she should’ve switched back to IndyCar to finish off her career.
More successful?? She made more money than god.
She's still making stock car money from Fox... and she doesn't look out of place announcing at all..
I like Danika, she worked hard, and had a hard road as we all know the guys weren't all that easy on her at times...
She qualified well, and held her own with half of the field... that is a lot more than most guys that hit the big show do...
Some are just jealous I guess...
@@TroyC68 "worked hard" and "held her own with half the field". You're funny.
absolutely. especially given she was driving for a top team, in andretti autosport, from 2007-2011.
Casey Atwood had potential, he was simply rushed into the cup series too quickly.
And the dude was being literally being called “the next Jeff Gordon”. I don’t think expectations could be more impossible than that.
@@kevinlittrell3407 Again, he was rushed into the Cup Series too quickly
Ha I never thought he was the next Jeff Gordon unless you convince me otherwise which they didn't.
he should never have been in Cup for at least 2 years
I may be biased but I still don't believe Bayne is a bust since he never really had good equipment in cup. Glad to see he's back in Xfinity and I hope he does well
Ehhhh... I'm a huge Bayne fan and I will say he did have the equipment to do well, but just never put things together and win. Still looking forward to him in NASCAR again!
Getting sidelined twice during his xfinity days hurt too. The 2nd time he was 4th in points and doing well
Unfortunately he moved teams at the wrong time.
He isn't terrible but it's not like he could lite the world on fire
Me too
Joseph Lombard
I'm surprised NBC or FOX hasn't contacted you guys about guest hosting or offering internships!
Ending was pure gold 😂😂
I think Trevor bayne being on this list is quite harsh. I think it was more a case of awful timing. When he joined roush, they we’re starting their downfall in cup.
I thought Dylan Kwasnieski was gonna be DAMN good
That Rockstar paint scheme looked dang good too.
Okay but he didn’t suck honestly, Chip Ganassi just yanked him off the team, He finished 11th in points, which yeah you could say is underwhelming… But not terrible, christ Burney Lamar in 2006 didn’t make the full season and finished 22nd in points!
If he is a bust, he less of a bust from his own behalf and more on Chip Ganassi’s executivr meddling
@@ajlogomanthecreepysusiefan5502
If you want to blame someone blame Turner Scott Motorsports
@@JackCallSports Oh right… If anything THEY are the culprits…
Funnily enough back when they were Braun Racing, Burney Lamar was dropped in 2009 despite an improvement in his career…
And Reed Sorenson improved that next year, even WINNING Road America, yet HE was dropped…
Main reason I only said Ganassi was how they ALSO handled Sorenson… And Stremme was just a poor choice to begin with…
We need more The Iceberg/Black Flags Matter collab vids
1988-1992 for Richard Petty is better than Danica Patrick's entire NASCAR career
Dang, that’s a burn if I ever saw one.
But did he said on a interview that the only way she win a cup race if male drivers didn't show up to race or the field crash out.
It's true though. Richard from 88-92 got 7 top 10s, just like Danica from 2013-2017. But Richard did what Danica couldn't and got a top 5.
@@GoodOlRoll As well as Average Finish (24.04 > 24.1) & Average Points Finish (25.4 > 26.2)
FUN FACT : Trevor Bayne has more Daytona 500 wins than Tony Stewart, Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Mark Martin, and Chase Elliott combined
And now that I’ve said that, watch either Elliott or Busch win on Sunday 😂
Don’t forget Brad
And Kurt Busch, and Rusty Wallace, and Terry Labonte, Bobby Labonte too
Truex too 😂
Winning the Daytona 500 is all luck. I’m sure y’all realize this.
@@CYCLONEFAN88 Kurt won in 2017
Erin Crocker anyone? Too Soon? I believe Dylan Kwasniewski didn't get a fair chance. He finished 11th in his only full-time nationwide season in 2014. Turner Scott Motorsports gave up on him too soon. Shane Hmiel actually finished in the top ten a quarter of the time in Xfinity.
Shane Mmiel is one of the biggest what if’s ever
@@hetterman10r9 Agreed
Crocker wasn’t a bust because nobody expected anything from her. She was just bad.
I like that this list isn't just drivers who everyone would know, but fell short of the high expectations. Drivers like Kwasniewski, Moroso, Hmiel, etc. are known, but it's good to include drivers who maybe didn't spend much time in the Cup series at all.
Rick Crawford is also one of the Biggest Busts in NASCAR History Considering that he destroyed his legacy as a decent Truck Series driver by getting arrested for being a predator
As terrible as it is, I don't think that counts.
it really is a shame what happened to Shane Hmiel, could’ve been an amazing driver if he was clean and was mentally okay
Trevor Bayen suffers from Roush. Roush had peaked and had been on a downward trend and was, until now. The Gen 7 car and Brad K will help bring that team back.
I wouldn't count on it.
Bad news
Reed Sorenson is so forgotten he ran for ganassi in xfinity and won races and did well then got rushed to cup in mediocre ganassi equipment then slowly declined in equipment till he got his second chance for turner in xfinity where he did well and won a race in 2011 and was 3rd in points within a chance to win the championship before bein dumped for no reason by turner scott then regulated to runnin for sub 30th place cars and finishing a sad 5th in points and then sent to runnin for underfunded teams the rest of his career
I thought Reed was gonna be huge.
@@elliemagdolna3269 had alot of potential that got wasted
Brian France, Joseph Lombard and Jason Jacoby are the Biggest Busts in NASCAR History
The Joseph Lombard situation still hurts to this day
What about and can we add RC RACER 88 with them?
@@briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 Yes it does
@@briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 man when I was younger, Lombard was my hero, it's a shame that he turned out as he did
add Steve Phelps to your list aswell and Mike Helton.
Bayne is a bit harsh he should be given some slack with having to deal with Multple sclerosis
Danny O Quinn is an underated bust. He drove for Roush in 2006.
Is he even worth mentioning
I am surprised that Juan Pablo Montoya isn't on this list considering the hype that surrounded him when he left McLaren in the middle of the F1 season to enter NASCAR in 2006. He was part of the open wheel invasion that happened in NASCAR in the mid 2000's and for the most part, many of those drivers struggled in NASCAR and he was no exception. Apart from 2 wins at Sears Point & Watkins Glen, Montoya struggled and it didn't help that Chip Ganassi had poor equipment.
JPM did point his way into the 2009 Chase, and finished 8th in points that year.
David Stremme and Casey Mears? Mears had shots with three quality teams and blew all of them. Stremme had two.
I mean the whole thing with David Stemme is an idiot
At the same time what you expect Chip Ganassi Racing was very terrible
The second one for Stremme wasn't a quality team at the time
@@nachoalvarez7171 His teammate literally finished 4th in points and Keselowski took over the ride and only took 3 years to win the championship.
@@BrettMKW but Keselowski in the 12 didn't do that much in 2010, tbf it was still better than Stremme
@@nachoalvarez7171 Keselowski was a rookie in 2010. He finished 5th in points in 2011 with 3 wins then won the championship the year after. He just needed time.
No wonder Dylan Kwasniewski busted out, he didn't have the money for good equipment. Poor kid couldn't even afford a hat that fit.
Wouldn’t be a NASCAR Busts video without Danica. That outro is the best by the way.
I don’t think Danica wanted to get pushed out there. The attention was going to come regardless of what series she was in. She should’ve started in Trucks for 1 season, 2 seasons in Nationwide(at the time), and then Cup. Development for the open wheel guys was nonexistent IMO.
Juan and AJ were special cases where they wrecked a few cars but showed flashes of talent in non A- to A+ equipment.
I always thought Tony and Gene used her for money especially since SHR literally just got started 4 years prior to her Daytona 500 pole and they leaned on Hendrick for support all the way until they switched to Ford in 2017. Even on your list, most of the guys you have on there just didn’t get the proper development and were PUSHED to the moon.
That outro was gold
In all seriousness, I hope Trevor has his MS under control. I can only imagine what that’s like
Yeah 🥺
Uh... How did y'all missing David Stremme, Reed Sorenson, Kevin Conway, Landon Cassill, Brian Vickers, &... oh yeah... *Brian France!?*
... Although Steve Phelps is _well_ on way to even surpassing Brian France as THE ultimate NASCAR Bust.
Phelps isn’t THAT bad
The real bust is Steve O’Donnell
Reed Sorensen and Landon cassill and Brian Vickers aren't bust and they are definitely not top 10 bust The only one that you say they really did miss out on putting on the top 10 was David stremme
I don't know about Reed Sorenson
The best equipment he ever had was Richard Petty Motorsports equipment and as we all know that team was going nowhere
A besides of careers way to bleeding long
2005-2020
Best. Outro. Ever
Sticking to drivers who had quality full-time Cup rides I would have to add Reed Sorenson and David Ragan after Danica, Yeley, and Atwood.
Reed Sorenson and David Ragan were supposed to be the next big thing, after 2009 I remember Darrell Waltrip giving up on David Ragan because he hadn't done anything yet.
The Iceberg is a strange animal
The end was priceless 😂💜
Seems like everyone forgets Trevor bayne drove for DEI before waltrip in the k&n series
Out of all the love stories Hollywood and writers have created in human history, none compare to the love between Danica Patrick and The Wall.
All in all it’s just another Danica in the wall!
How about Scott Pruett?
Came with hype from CART to Cup in 2000. Six DNQs and one top 10. Never raced on a Cup oval again.
Ricky Craven took over and made the ride competitive.
I'm really surprised that Travis Pastrana wasn't on this list
Rick Crawford should be on The NASCAR Busts list as well Considering what he did
@@NASCARFAN93100 yes
A lot of these busts couldve survived had they stayed in a lower division and gained way more experience
That ending of the video was so funny great video.
Scott Speed....more interested in painting his toenails than his actual racing career
Ha ha I remember that, when I heard he did that I instantly rooted against him.
Danica Patrick boosted ratings, attracted new fans, sponsors loved her, she was a master at marketing, and she was the face of NASCAR for the passive fan. If you can sell product, your performance becomes an afterthought. NASCAR isn't about racing, its high speed advertising. The sport needs another Danica like personality to generate interest outside the die hard race fans.
Is Bubba Wallace moving the needle like they actually think he is? I know the average person knows who Danica is, but would the average non NASCAR viewer even know who Bubba Wallace is?
@@polycube868 IMO the passive fans would follow Jeff Gordon and Danica because of their PR outside NASCAR. To move the needle a driver has to be multi-channel and recognized outside the sport. Dale Earnhardt Sr was the master at marketing. How many passive fans would wear MR. Goodwrench stuff just to "be like Dale".
To compare, Aric Almirola did much more in his first year in the 10 car than Danica did her entire career.
He did more in his first RACE in the 10 car than she ever did
Just like how Earnhardt Sr tops every best drivers list, I knew that the driver in number 1 was gonna be there from the beginning, even through Casey Atwood's case.
Danica’s crew chief: “Remember what I told you?”
Danica: “Yep. Go fast and turn right.”
Crew chief: “That’s right……wait….It’s go fast and turn left! Left!!”
Danica: “Which is it? Right or left?”
Danica crashes and blames everyone but herself.
JJ Yeley almost killed Mark Martin at Charlotte. One of the most pathetic pieces of driving I have ever seen.
15:51 Best Outro Ever
MY TOP 10 NASCAR Busts:
10. Dylan Kwasniewski
9. Casey Atwood
8. Aaron Fike
7. Sean Caisse
6. John Wes Townley
5. Tyler Walker
4. Rob Moroso
3. Shane Hmiel
2. Cody Ware
1. Danica Patrick
Todd Kluever: I know he’s not a bust in the trucks, but Roush decided he was ready. They just rushed him up.
Trevor Bayne: I think the only reason why he’s a bust is because Roush Racing was declining at that time, but at least he was able to get a win.
Scott Speed: Yes, he is NOT speed. I like to say he was slow. Like Kluever, Speed was rushed way, WAY too early.
Steve Wallace: I know he didn’t perform as great, but I have to give him positivity. He had a 7th place points finish in 2009 and had 2 other top 10 points finishes in the nationwide series.
JJ Yeley: Like Kluever and Speed, Yeley was rushed way too early. Here’s something he can do: he gets top 15’s and 20’s with underfunded teams in the Xfinity series.
Dylan Kwasniewski: It’s just a shame he was cut. Also he actually got an Obaika Racing to the top 10, but it was cut short.
Rob Moroso: He was pretty good in Xfinity, but he made a poor decision.
Shane Hmiel: He deserved better than what he had. He almost won at IRP in 2003 or 2004.
Casey Atwood: He literally almost won 2 races in 2001. He got shipped to a bad team. Almost got a win with Fitz, but they thought he was bad.
Danica Patrick: Yeah, no surprise…..
greatest outro i have ever seen. truly puts the cherry on top. great video too
That ending was funny.
that outro has me dying. love it when you guys collab. keep up the good work
i feel like bayne shouldnt be here until he actually retires. he is getting to peak age for a nascar driver. if he does well enough for gibbs with the limited starts. who knows, he could end up in a full time effort and just finish his career in the series like Allgaier or annet. everyone else here was more legit but Might be too quick to pull the trigger on bayne since he is still racing.
In all honesty I don't know if you can call Trevor Bayne a bust
At Dale Earnhardt inc. He had potential, Then DEI Died
Michael Waltrip Racing he had potential but was with only the bleeding team for 1 year and they didn't try to build on that
Wood Brothers he was on a dead team that pretty much on their dying legs after Ricky Rudd's 2004 and 2005 campaigns ended in disaster
And just like Stenhouse at Roush he was joining a a fallen Empire
15:52 I love the outro 🤣
the ending is a national treasure
I knew the number one driver before I even started this video lol
Love both of your channels. Great collaboration and outro.
Take a shot every time Iceberg says “you see”
Eww . . . 2 amazing Content Creators coming together to collaborate on a video. Thanks for the work these past 2 years that both of you have put in, thru controversy and grind, you guys are awesome and give so much knowledge about a great sport
I remember reading that Eury chalks Danica's issues at Monteal 2012 up to issues with the car that started before the shoe.
JJ Yeley worse than Kluever, Speed and Steven Wallace?
Completely disagree. Guy gets overly hated while he's very far from being one of the worst NASCAR drivers.
I was at that race at Toledo speedway when Scott Speed was in contention for the ARCA championship when I'm pretty sure Ricky Stenhouse took him out. Redbull repaired the car enough to make one more lap in which Speed went out and immediately wrecked Stenhouse in retaliation.
The main issue with all of these drivers is that they were rushed when they weren't ready. Roush was scrambling to replace Mark Martin, Speed had Red Bull money, Steve Wallace had the last name, Danica had the hype. Moroso had all the potential but threw it all away. Hmiel was one of the most naturally gifted racers ever, but couldn't stay clean. Atwood later admitted he couldn't handle the media side and the attention, and Yeley was rushed too quickly and yet somehow still keeps finding rides...
Busch Series...Rob Moroso raced in the Busch Series. There was no Xfinity then. That was back when NASCAR was awesome. I know it was narrated as Xfinity for simplicity, but there is a demarcation line between Busch/Winston Cup and the corporate sponsor of the moment nowadays. That line represents when racing still held some allegiance to its roots and when it sold out its roots for a clean, sanitized, boring image it now has
Danica Patrick. Proof that money, fame and a bit of whining can get you a ride in NASCAR. In all seriousness, imagine if Hmiel got over his demons. I can imagine him and KFB in an intense rivalry. Maybe in another timeline.
Natalie Decker is another example of the proof you mentioned as well. I knew right from the moment she was wrecking so frequently in the Truck Series in 2019 that she would be potentially the biggest NASCAR bust since Danica! I’m honestly surprised that she’s still in the sport as she should’ve been fired after the infamous Bristol race when her crew pretty much quit on her. That alone shows you that Natalie is a wreck magnet who has no proper development as a driver.
That outro was really funny 😆👍👍👍👍👍
Andy Houston not mentioned here. He came in in spectacular fashion along his big sponsor McDonald's.
Number one, Moroso was in shot equipment in cup. Best to look at what someone was driving before labeling them as a bust. That's like saying Kirk Shelmerdine was a bust despite the fact that his cars were severely underfunded. Number two, if you are going to do a video do your own list, not just a recycled condensed version of Darians videos.
is it just me or i just rewatched some nascar busts
#6 on this list just finished #7 at Atlanta!
Why aren't people more cross out this? 🤬
A little bit surprised to not find David Ragan on this list.
Nah, he had a somewhat average career in my opinion
I knew Yeley was going to be on this. I agree, but still love him. Haha
Scott Speed's Truck win wasn't for Red Bull Racing, it was for the team that became Kyle Busch Motorsports.
By the way, Danica I will always have mucho respect. She was the only driver who gave my daughter anything more than a "Hi" when they met at Iowa.
Did Ricky Stenhouse Jr and Danica Patrick meet in the infield care center? Cause that would make sense
I think Michael Waltrip should be in there somewhere. Not only as a driver but also as a team owner. He introduces Toyota to Cup and gets busted for cheating in pre race inspection before his inaugural season even starts? That’s quite a black eye for MWR and Toyota. Add that to 2 wins in 40 gazzilion starts and I’d say that’s a bust. Oh ….. and he’s not exactly a great pit reporter either.
There are hundreds of drivers who have never won a race. How does a driver who actually won a race, let alone the most prestigious race on the schedule, make this list?
Because he literally did nothing significant save for a couple of Xfinity wins and they had to bring Matt Kenseth out of retirement to get better results in that car.
@@polycube868 OK, but there are still plenty of drivers who did far less than that and are more deserving of this list.
@@tdiedrich22 I also don't think they should have put Rob Moroso on the list.
That's a little unfair on Atwood. He was showing real potential in the 19, had some good runs, and wasn't horrible his first season.. then Ray pulled the rug out from under him and he never recovered. If Ray had been patient, which wasn't a thing then because if you weren't "Jeff Gordon" you were considered not a good driver, which is terrible. People tend to forget it took Dale Jarrett and Mark Martin and others a decent amount of time to get into a good ride, let alone get their first win. Patience with developing a driver was not a thing because of Gordon for a good while.
Shane Hmiel still drives like a lunatic in iRacing
that outro tho black flags matter would pull something like that
If this was to be expanded, I'd put Wally Dallenbach, Jr., on the list.
It always puzzled me, especially when he drove for Roush Racing and Hendricks Motorsports, that he could be in "the-thick-of-it" among the leaders in many races, yet, not be in the top-three at the checker flag.
I wanna see a bust vid on wally dallenbach. Not because i think he was a bad driver, but because i dont think many people realize just how good wally was in the 80s in imsa and pikes peak etc before he got to nascar
Outro was a 10 out of 10 🤣love it.
I agree with Danica Patrick being number one. She was just hyped so much and in the best equipment. She didn't have drug or medical issues that cut her career short, she just didn't have the talent
15:52 😂👏
What?? No Buckshot Jones????
I know Robby Gordon is a winner at the top level of NASCAR but I really think he should be in here. He failed at entering the cup series not once but twice before he finally found success with RCR. And when that failed as well, he took it upon himself to not only fail as a driver but as a car owner.
15:51 PFFFTT HAHAHA
Why is Danica on the list? I did pull for her but I think everyone knew it was about selling merchandise and that’s it!😂
I think if Trevor Bayne ran less races part-time in the cup series from 2011-2014 and maybe spent more time in the Nationwide Series whether he ran part-time or full-time in Nationwide he could've had a bit of a better career
I agree with everyone but the Shane Hmiel and mainly Rob Moroso.