Tbf as much as I was looking forward to Bill and Ellie's bickering, it's better to know that Bill and Frank managed to have a happy life. The game version is just depressing for them
@@Apacheindiankid I do wonder how they are going to navigate Part 2, especially since I think they'll need more than one season to go through the whole second game
@@dpyxl In the series, Bill and Frank's story is important to show that resilience in surviving is not enough to be truly alive, you need a purpose for that, and we find purpose in our connections to other people, which has always been The Last of Us' core theme in the games. By the end, Joel truly decides he'll help Ellie after reading Bill's letter. He needed to be reminded why they do what they do, why they stay alive. And if your problem is Bill being gay then I'm sorry to break it to you but he was very much gay in the game too 👋
she's so cute stealing the casette for Joel, they weren't fully bonded at that point but she still wanted to show consideration for him. She definitely attached onto Joel before Joel did with her. Really amazing story.
@@andrewnguyen664 I’m surprised people think they messed up the story in the second game. It’s absolutely heart wrenching what happened, but it’s a realistic tale of what happens in their world. Joel himself said he wronged lots of people - it was only a matter of time before fate caught up to him. I love how they forced the player to see why Joel was killed by making them play as Abby. Sure we all still hate her guts, but it makes us reevaluate how good of a person Joel was.
Idk man. I really enjoyed this Bill. I know he was bitter and lonely. But we seen what could happen to Joel if he didn’t have anyone in his life. And I just love this banter between them. I could watch it everyday and still chuckle.
@Spacemonkeymojo I was talking about early in the game, with the photo of Sarah, that Tommy was trying to give Joel. And later on in the game where Ellie and Joel are arguing and she mentions she's not Sarah which kinda angered Joel.
@@Excalibur01 he doesn’t look anything close to 300lbs. I don’t see it. He’s not fat fat for her to be making fat jokes. There were seraphites wayyyyy bigger. Now they were fat.
Yeah Bill would probably say to Joel,no,I ain’t taking that piece of shit to Salt Lake City Utah in a 831 hour,2365.3 journey,do it with your brother Tommy or something.
I totally agree. It was good to see Frank and have him really brought to life. Their story wasn't too long but I love that I finally got to see it play out. The actors just nailed it too.
They nailed it? What, the story that we’ve never seen or heard ? The story that went from a fuck you to an I love you? I’d say the show butchered it like everything else
@@ScopeShadow94 I've played the game more times then I can count so I'm not saying the episode was perfect by far. I honestly think it could have been much worse though. The cast just performed really well in my opinion with what they were given. I get the hate on it though. I don't entirely disagree.
People were emotional through that episode, and I just keep skipping. They mellow their characters far too much to make it mushy and emotional... with just the two of them. Unlike with Henry and Sam's episode, there was some bonding happening with the main protags, and with the doctor. I felt nothing for ( TV ) Bill and Frank. 💀
I wish this was all in the show. The love story was great, but I think they could have made it into two episodes. Have the love story until the last day, then have Joel and Ellie show up and have THIS adventure, then have the end of the love story. A lot of great content was cut.
To be fair, the Bill levels feel super gamey, and I doubt that they would work if you adapted it beat-by-beat for a TV show. You've got the level where you have to watch out for Bill's bombs, and another where you spend a few minutes trying to shoot zombies while you're upside down, and then you have the level where you have to push the truck while you kill the runners.
@Mackie Lunkey You forgot about the school with the bloater! Agreed it seems gamey but that was the original story. Show a few of those key moments, have the banter between Ellie and Bill, and have us witness how smart Bill is with his traps. A hole other episode right there! This level in the game had so much action and dialog skipped that the new viewers missed out on. I understand the creator only gets so many episodes per season and he had to really plan this out. After this season is over is when I can judge if two episodes with Bill should have happened. I'm sure there will only be 1 episode with Henry and Sam too.
@@NaokiOsu because of their inflated egos and their "PC master race" ugabuga. Plus, it feels nice to have something they don't have (that's the point of exclusives).
Wished u included the part where bill was thinking out loud to himself and Ellie was like, "Okay now he's talking to himself," 🤣😅that part was gold.its not direct banter but she's still making fun of him
The magazine scene just didn't carry as much of a punch. Still funny but it's not as clever or Ellie chortling at Bill one last time for his tastes. She's just looking at a dirty magazine, instead of it being Bill's dirty magazine.
The best part of Ellie being sassy: Jill: HEY! What did I say to you when we walked down the steps? What did I say?! Ellie:I’m just fixing your stupid pile! Jill: Don’t touch! Ellie: *puts the middle finger up at Jill*😂😂😂😂
For sure! Troy Baker has always been excellent! Ashley Johnson (Ellie) has been a terrific actress since she was a young kid. Remember her from Growing Pains?🤣
How would Bills interactions with Ellie push the story enough to warrant 15 million dollars or a quarter of a million dollars per minute of screen time
No one can give life to Ellie better than Abigail Johnson. Her character just feels so alive just like arthur morgan and joel... Even though they're dead 😭
Wow In the game Joel and Ellie were in Lincoln for 2-3 hours and in the series they were in Lincoln for barely even an hour lol and Bill only had his own property boobie trapped and hardly any infected were even able to get in considering the number of handy work he put into the barbed wire fence on the city limits!!
I loved episode 3 of the show but they cut out so much from the game to have bill and Frank's lives together that it makes question whether or not that episode should have existed the way it did
Joel: I need a car Bill: oh it is a joke Joel needs a car and if I had one that works which I don't what makes u think I'd just give it to you, yh go ahead Joel take my car take all my food too while your at it
@@60gritphil66 yes, he was. I like to think that the Bill we saw on the Game was one without all the love that Frank gave to him, in the Game the note implies that their relationship was more toxic than other things, in the show we knew the Bill that said to Joel that anyone who cares in the world dies.
They were drilling for oil in 1859, this game had a semi government running things in some places. If they were using vehicles, they were using fuel. They could of been making their own fuel. Which Bill could steal from. There's also Pyrolysis which involves heating plastic in an oxygen-free environment, causing the materials to break down and creating new liquid or gas fuels in the process. Or they may use Ethanol which is an alternative fuel most commonly made from corn. They could have used natural gas, like Britain did around 1785, the British used natural gas produced from coal to light houses and streets. There are Compressed natural gas (CNG) vehicles. For example I see busses in my state that run on natural gas.
People kept saying the series was super faithful to the game so I expected Bill to help them with the car and stuff and not have a happy ending without even interacting with Joel and Ellie as much as he did in the game.
For years, we imagined how the interaction between Ellie and Joel would look like in a tv series. Unfortunately, we'll never see that. So disappointing.
So much better than what we got in the show. I didn't care if some back story was shown for Bill and Frank, but having the entire episode nothing but some post apocalyptic love story was fucking stupid. These interactions between Bill and Ellie would have been better...
It wouldn've been just as good but the story we got is very emotional and just well...enjoyable. The show would last like 4-5 episodes tops if it was just Joel and Ellie. Dedicating some time for other characters is helpful, we see what other people are gpung through in the apocalypse.
It was just posturing for an award ceremony, imo. Bill is supposed to be what Joel will become if he doesn't open up to others, or sign off from the rest of the world. Bill is surviving, but isn't living for anything. You can see how angry, greedy, and reclusive Bill is. Even to Joel; someone who has done business with him and proven to be a trustworthy sort. In the show, it's nothing like that. It only gut wrenches more that all of Joel's friends are dying/dead around him. Ellie never meets Bill, only reading his final words about his death. Predicting Joel would come and just giving him everything. Nothing feels earned, just outright handed to the two.
I've always wanted a back story from those people who are just written in letters or papers and see what actually happens, and they did it to Bill. I'm glad I aint watching a walkthrough in series but an alternative way of doing the show, Bitter and Angry Bill is already a thing in this game, its fine to see his other side before everything went shit. Besides, its the last of us and based of Bill and Frank's story, they gave the last of themselves till death do them apart.
pisses me off that they took this bill and turned him into a gay dad who commits suicide after his "lover" has terminal cancer or some shi where as here hes a hardened survivalist who'd never even consider the thought and pushed his "partner" away cause hes such a hardass and yet at the end of the day hes a man of his word who will pay his debts to people who paid theirs
How is bill a gay dad if he’s gay and obviously adoption ain’t a thing here. And wouldn’t it make more sense that a honorable hardass survivalist who keeps his word wouldn’t push away the one person he loved in a scenario where he knows that person would likely die without them and yeah the hard ass survivalist probably only stayed in this lone wolf act because he became devoid of compassion so wouldn’t it also make sense that if when that type of person finally lets someone in and that someone dies that the survivalist Bill wouldn’t see the purpose any more in surviving
People are mad about Bill's portrayal in the show lmao Some of you clearly don't realise he was very much gay in the game and missed the clues. Not only that, but the show was able to humanise side-characters even more (like Tess and now Bill) and give them a complex story that is absolutely vital to Joel's and Ellie's arc. Bill shows that despite all the evil, cruelty and loss in the world, there is always that one person worth saving as he mentioned in the letter to Joel and that one person was Frank. Now, that one person for Joel will be Ellie. Like I said, not only it humanised Bill, it also gave us one of the most beautiful stories and no, it's not some "gay propaganda" or "woke" stuff. You're okay with straight couples being always present in basically every show or movie but when there is a gay couple, you people have an issue with that.
@@denisjon6873 that's your opinion and i completly disagree. The episode was a masterpiece and made more sense to Bill since it's a character that you only visit once in the whole lore of the game. So kudos to the producer for their choice, it was brilliant.
@@denisjon6873 The Fact is they needed a car, your point is just wrong because even the letter wasn't important, only the car. The sequence both in the show and the game was primarily for world building and Joel's connection to the world and Ellie which is exactly what the episode did. If you wanted to watch people mindlessly fight goons without agency, you can go watch the walking dead.
![[s1] joel having beef with ellie for 9 minutes](/img/1.gif)
Tbf as much as I was looking forward to Bill and Ellie's bickering, it's better to know that Bill and Frank managed to have a happy life. The game version is just depressing for them
Well said! That is a great take on it! It will be interesting to see what happens... well, with Joel. You know TLOU2.
@@Apacheindiankid I do wonder how they are going to navigate Part 2, especially since I think they'll need more than one season to go through the whole second game
this is all better than what we got in the series.. the fairytale rainbow story.
@@dpyxl remind me, which fairytale ended with the characters killing themselves?
@@dpyxl In the series, Bill and Frank's story is important to show that resilience in surviving is not enough to be truly alive, you need a purpose for that, and we find purpose in our connections to other people, which has always been The Last of Us' core theme in the games. By the end, Joel truly decides he'll help Ellie after reading Bill's letter. He needed to be reminded why they do what they do, why they stay alive. And if your problem is Bill being gay then I'm sorry to break it to you but he was very much gay in the game too 👋
"You listen to me you little shit!" Ohhh the banter between these two is legendary. 😂
"No, fuck you! You handcuffed me!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mauriciomongoy2025 i need you to shut up
alright
Dude, I'm mad at the show for not giving us this heat! This was epic banter
@@mauriciomongoy2025”I need you to shut up!”
she's so cute stealing the casette for Joel, they weren't fully bonded at that point but she still wanted to show consideration for him. She definitely attached onto Joel before Joel did with her. Really amazing story.
She even got the best ones
Yeah i know right? Hopefully they don't fuck up this masterpiece of a story in the sequel gam---
@@andrewnguyen664 Yeah.. we are way past that... Now, I hope they dont kill my guy Bill and keep these scenes when they make the sho---
My great uncle played slide guitar with Hank Sr, hearing him in the tlou makes it even more amazing
@@andrewnguyen664 I’m surprised people think they messed up the story in the second game. It’s absolutely heart wrenching what happened, but it’s a realistic tale of what happens in their world. Joel himself said he wronged lots of people - it was only a matter of time before fate caught up to him.
I love how they forced the player to see why Joel was killed by making them play as Abby. Sure we all still hate her guts, but it makes us reevaluate how good of a person Joel was.
“by the looks of it you could lose some of that food” ☠️☠️☠️
What did she exactly mean by that?
That Bill is fat and eating well.
Listen to me you little shit
I got to admit I will miss their interaction in the show
Be careful or woke nation will call you a homophobe.
Me too, I particularly loved when Ellie asks about fixing one of the street cars
Just watch the game movie.
Make sure you don’t try to argue the shows version was in any way worse though. You will be immediately labeled a homophobe
@@joshdeveaux6936I mean the only difference between the game and the show was that Ellie got to meet Bill. Bill is still gay in the game as well.
It’s hilarious how Ellie completely ignored Joel’s order to let him DO all the talking even though Joel warned about Bill’s unstable nature.
And somehow Ellie chaotic just on par with Bill lmao
Idk man. I really enjoyed this Bill. I know he was bitter and lonely. But we seen what could happen to Joel if he didn’t have anyone in his life.
And I just love this banter between them. I could watch it everyday and still chuckle.
Excellent point about losing people! We all know how Joel took it after Sarah died. He wanted nothing to remind him of her.
@@Apacheindiankid Uh wouldn't Ellie remind Joel of Sarah though? Isn't that why he stopped the doctors from killing her?
@Spacemonkeymojo I was talking about early in the game, with the photo of Sarah, that Tommy was trying to give Joel. And later on in the game where Ellie and Joel are arguing and she mentions she's not Sarah which kinda angered Joel.
@@Apacheindiankid Ah ok.
Ellie flipping the bird at Bill always makes me laugh. 😂
Bill isn’t even that fat! Lmao Ellie was roasting him as if he was 600lbs lmao
He's pretty fat by apocalypse standards
That’s fair. But he lives alone. He doesn’t need to share with anyone.
Ellie is being a hater lol
@@MASTEROFEVIL Yeah seriously, 20 years later after the collapse, NO dude should be reaching 300 lbs without being greedy
@@TheSmorris92 Dude's a survivalist. You can't survive being a fat prepper
@@Excalibur01 he doesn’t look anything close to 300lbs. I don’t see it. He’s not fat fat for her to be making fat jokes.
There were seraphites wayyyyy bigger. Now they were fat.
Literally the only bad thing about Episode 3 was that we didn't get to see Bill and Ellie together. Best combo ever ^^
Real
For real
And imagine Frank being in the midst of it being the mediator to both sides, leaning more to Bill though cause they are closer.
Man I miss this interaction on the show
Just imagine if it was Bill the one who had to escort Ellie all over the country. Endless dark humor. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah Bill would probably say to Joel,no,I ain’t taking that piece of shit to Salt Lake City Utah in a 831 hour,2365.3 journey,do it with your brother Tommy or something.
In the end they'd probably get along
@@Dannymart_88445fat chance.
"Stay right on my ass"
"Cant miss it" 😂😂😂
“Knock it off.”
I totally agree. It was good to see Frank and have him really brought to life. Their story wasn't too long but I love that I finally got to see it play out. The actors just nailed it too.
Wasn't too long? It was the second longest episode of the season for essentially a filler love story.
They nailed it? What, the story that we’ve never seen or heard ? The story that went from a fuck you to an I love you? I’d say the show butchered it like everything else
@@ScopeShadow94 I've played the game more times then I can count so I'm not saying the episode was perfect by far. I honestly think it could have been much worse though. The cast just performed really well in my opinion with what they were given. I get the hate on it though. I don't entirely disagree.
People were emotional through that episode, and I just keep skipping. They mellow their characters far too much to make it mushy and emotional... with just the two of them. Unlike with Henry and Sam's episode, there was some bonding happening with the main protags, and with the doctor. I felt nothing for ( TV ) Bill and Frank. 💀
That episode was terrible
Oh man. As much as I love much of the new Joel and Ellie scenes in the show, the car scene is WAY funnier in the original! 😂
Im glad to see they fleshed out Bill as a character in the show. Didn't take anything away from the theme of the games/show: People being people.
It is rare to see a chunky guy surviving 20 years in the apocalypse. It's a sign he's just eating well.
I wish this was all in the show. The love story was great, but I think they could have made it into two episodes. Have the love story until the last day, then have Joel and Ellie show up and have THIS adventure, then have the end of the love story. A lot of great content was cut.
To be fair, the Bill levels feel super gamey, and I doubt that they would work if you adapted it beat-by-beat for a TV show. You've got the level where you have to watch out for Bill's bombs, and another where you spend a few minutes trying to shoot zombies while you're upside down, and then you have the level where you have to push the truck while you kill the runners.
@Mackie Lunkey You forgot about the school with the bloater! Agreed it seems gamey but that was the original story. Show a few of those key moments, have the banter between Ellie and Bill, and have us witness how smart Bill is with his traps. A hole other episode right there! This level in the game had so much action and dialog skipped that the new viewers missed out on.
I understand the creator only gets so many episodes per season and he had to really plan this out. After this season is over is when I can judge if two episodes with Bill should have happened. I'm sure there will only be 1 episode with Henry and Sam too.
I hope you are not serious. We want show about apocalypse, not some fucking gay scenes
There’s 9 episodes in total. They were hardly able to cover everything as it is lol.
@Apocalyptic Gamer Yup, it should have been split into two seasons.
When I first played years ago, I laughed so hard at the "why are all these pages stuck together?" Part.
Can you explain that to me, i didn’t rlly get that
It's um wet
@@marckristiangeorgeculaste553 oh sh-
@@sujitbala1492Jizz on the magazine bro
I am still kind of upset we didn't get to see Ellie and Bill have these interactions in the show
…he fucking killed himself-
8:17
Funny little info here. In Hungarian, fasz (pronounced the same was as "fuss") means "dick", so this sentence works perfectly for me 😂
“Um…”
Man, I can't wait until I finally get to play this on PC^^
they delayed it 💀
@@krin7871 99% sure it's just cuz of the show wich is sad, but at least we finally get it on PC...
You PC players don't deserve PS exclusives.
@@gandalfhan Why? Could you develop I would like to hear more about it
@@NaokiOsu because of their inflated egos and their "PC master race" ugabuga. Plus, it feels nice to have something they don't have (that's the point of exclusives).
3:30 how foreshadowing 😢
Ill never forgive HBO from depriving us of brilliant banter between these 2 guys
I succeed to catch Ellie stealing stuff from Bill in the church basement lol, she's a pro.
we didn t see this in the Last of us TV series
Bill is like the drunk uncle of this family 😅
“ whoa how how the hell would he even walk around with that thing?!” 💀💀💀
"While the looks at it you can lose some of that food" 💀💀💀
Wished u included the part where bill was thinking out loud to himself and Ellie was like, "Okay now he's talking to himself," 🤣😅that part was gold.its not direct banter but she's still making fun of him
I had it recorded, problem was the clip turned static and slow. Same the chest game part.
This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> episode 3
Damn they're like the Sibling they both never got
I just find it really funny how joel stops ellie from beating the shit out of Bill
I’m so glad they included the magazine but in episode 4, one my favorite scenes in the game
The magazine scene just didn't carry as much of a punch. Still funny but it's not as clever or Ellie chortling at Bill one last time for his tastes. She's just looking at a dirty magazine, instead of it being Bill's dirty magazine.
4:00 always kill me 😂😂
Man, ellie got that dawg in her
This should have been in the show.
Her beaf is bigger than my beaf i have with my math teacher 😂
Bill is like me when it comes to cousin
12 months ago 😂
Its worst to know from part 2, in a sense Bill is right here, but he’s also not right
It's as he said, he's a survivalist
The best part of Ellie being sassy:
Jill: HEY! What did I say to you when we walked down the steps?
What did I say?!
Ellie:I’m just fixing your stupid pile!
Jill: Don’t touch!
Ellie: *puts the middle finger up at Jill*😂😂😂😂
3:41 Foreshadowing.
Damn the VA on this game are really good delivering their line
For sure! Troy Baker has always been excellent! Ashley Johnson (Ellie) has been a terrific actress since she was a young kid. Remember her from Growing Pains?🤣
The “couple of days” turned to years (when joel said they would die in a few days)
Correct you are! The adventures Ellie and Joel go on that you play in part 2 were excellent.
The way he shows up like a superhero and then you see how broken he really is is really painful
boy oh boy. here after the latest episode 3.
Thanks for stopping by!✌️
This is why she can wear the Kill Bill suit.
That was a good one!🤣👍
In all these games I think its comical that, "Ok before we go I have to steal as much stuff as I can find".
1:24 when someone says I’m a bad overwatch player
Good one👍
Thx
HELP THE PHOTOS WITH BABY BATTER ON THEM
I'm disappointed this wasn't in the episode. Instead we get a long ass hour of Frank and Bill hanky panky shit!
Finally somebody fu***** said it
How would Bills interactions with Ellie push the story enough to warrant 15 million dollars or a quarter of a million dollars per minute of screen time
This was one of the few moments in the entire game that made me audibly laugh out loud, the banter was so perfect
That thumbs up while ellie is driving was always gold to me lol
I should run my own bloody restaurant seeing how this guy literally freezes frozen past
I have a friend reminds me of bill.it’s so crazy.
They are so funny. HAHAHAHAHA
No one can give life to Ellie better than Abigail Johnson. Her character just feels so alive just like arthur morgan and joel... Even though they're dead 😭
Wow In the game Joel and Ellie were in Lincoln for 2-3 hours and in the series they were in Lincoln for barely even an hour lol and Bill only had his own property boobie trapped and hardly any infected were even able to get in considering the number of handy work he put into the barbed wire fence on the city limits!!
Someone should add the healthbars and gimmicks modifier version
I loved episode 3 of the show but they cut out so much from the game to have bill and Frank's lives together that it makes question whether or not that episode should have existed the way it did
Joel: I need a car
Bill: oh it is a joke Joel needs a car and if I had one that works which I don't what makes u think I'd just give it to you, yh go ahead Joel take my car take all my food too while your at it
i like that the TV series gave us gamers an alternative reality as to what could have happened to Bill if he didn't drive Frank nuts.
Man after watching ep 3 I really understand Bill better.
that wasnt bill
same bro. Bill and Frank were better on the show
@@60gritphil66 yes, he was. I like to think that the Bill we saw on the Game was one without all the love that Frank gave to him, in the Game the note implies that their relationship was more toxic than other things, in the show we knew the Bill that said to Joel that anyone who cares in the world dies.
@@zeratulx88 agree to disagree
What did I say?!!!
Don’tttt touch
Ellie:🖕
4:00/4:04
CJ's voice (GTA SAN ANDREAS) obtained.
Why they make bill age faster then Joel in the series but they look the same age on the game
This game is a masterpiece the show is a million years behind. And they say the greatest episode in Tv history 4:08
Whered the gas come from? 20 year old gas wont work.
They were drilling for oil in 1859, this game had a semi government running things in some places. If they were using vehicles, they were using fuel. They could of been making their own fuel. Which Bill could steal from. There's also Pyrolysis which involves heating plastic in an oxygen-free environment, causing the materials to break down and creating new liquid or gas fuels in the process.
Or they may use Ethanol which is an alternative fuel most commonly made from corn.
They could have used natural gas, like Britain did around 1785, the British used natural gas produced from coal to light houses and streets. There are Compressed natural gas (CNG) vehicles. For example I see busses in my state that run on natural gas.
she stole his jrk off material. how petty
Much better than the TV version.
We were fucking robbed
Bill was right it did blow on joel's face 😭
Yo I cannot wait how they’re gonna do it in the live action😂
Right! It will be interesting to see.
They ain't
they didnt
SMH didn’t happen just got a gay bill episode
About that...
Too bad we never get their interaction in the hbo show
Only Ellie could say fuck you to a guy pointing a machete at her face
I wonder if Bill is still alive during part 2
Good question! All I know for sure, Ellie mentions her and Joel's encounter with him very briefly to Dina.
8:20 Why IS it stuck together? Google didn’t tell me-
@_Valentino4ever_ Bill... he... well, enjoyed the pictures a little too much while he was looking at the magazine when nobody was around.
@@Apacheindiankid oh…
I just realized again that Ellie turned out to be very naughty in game part 1
Show < game. Sorry
Don't be sorry. We were robbed of this over fanfiction level writing and people coping over the "best adaptation of all time EVER!"
Don't be sorry Dale
and then they said fuck all this in the show
God I have to buy this game. Not buying the secound one because I know what happened. Not spoiling it for you.
Yes do it! You won't regret it!
People kept saying the series was super faithful to the game so I expected Bill to help them with the car and stuff and not have a happy ending without even interacting with Joel and Ellie as much as he did in the game.
Actually Bill was kinda right, when he said that kind of sh*t gets you killed...Joel got Killed because of it.
Funniest Mlm and wlw beef
As ellie bill is the boss fight
For years, we imagined how the interaction between Ellie and Joel would look like in a tv series. Unfortunately, we'll never see that. So disappointing.
The game version of Bill is so much better than the show.
Of course
Their both good in their own way.
The game is already an awesome movie. If they did every scene 1 to 1 in the show it would be very redundant. They had to switch it up a bit. 👍
This is a million miles better from the show version!
nah
Show was better for sure
This is better.
This was better. Less gay
Show got it way better
Yep, nowhere close...
This is what I wanted, my favorite part in the story but instead they made a gay version of up
So much better than what we got in the show. I didn't care if some back story was shown for Bill and Frank, but having the entire episode nothing but some post apocalyptic love story was fucking stupid. These interactions between Bill and Ellie would have been better...
It wouldn've been just as good but the story we got is very emotional and just well...enjoyable. The show would last like 4-5 episodes tops if it was just Joel and Ellie. Dedicating some time for other characters is helpful, we see what other people are gpung through in the apocalypse.
Did you like both lion Kings being exactly identical or did you think they were fucking stupid to
It was just posturing for an award ceremony, imo. Bill is supposed to be what Joel will become if he doesn't open up to others, or sign off from the rest of the world. Bill is surviving, but isn't living for anything. You can see how angry, greedy, and reclusive Bill is. Even to Joel; someone who has done business with him and proven to be a trustworthy sort.
In the show, it's nothing like that. It only gut wrenches more that all of Joel's friends are dying/dead around him. Ellie never meets Bill, only reading his final words about his death. Predicting Joel would come and just giving him everything. Nothing feels earned, just outright handed to the two.
Yeah, it's a filler episode. It would've been way better if Joel and Ellie were actually in the story.
4:48😁😁😁
I wish Bill somehow made a comeback in TLOU part 2
That would have been cool!
I've always wanted a back story from those people who are just written in letters or papers and see what actually happens, and they did it to Bill. I'm glad I aint watching a walkthrough in series but an alternative way of doing the show, Bitter and Angry Bill is already a thing in this game, its fine to see his other side before everything went shit. Besides, its the last of us and based of Bill and Frank's story, they gave the last of themselves till death do them apart.
graphics look much better than when i played it back on PS3?
Yeah, it's amazing the technological capabilities that the technology has gotten to!
do we have bill on last of us 3?
That would be cool.
I love game Bill way more than TV Bill
@nave712 I like both. But if I had to pick, then it would be the game version.
Bill was better than jesse, dina, abby, Owen, the pregnant chick, the chinese chick, lev, the mexican dude, etc... put together
TLOU II plot wise, was such a pile of garbage.
Nah, Dina was the shit
@@modafuknbreadcrumbs4168 yeah her personality and character development was unique
I'm half through the game and I agree. Definitely not as memorable as the first game, and the plot is all over the place.
@@FlashBack1138 Neil had good ideas, just too many for one story.
pisses me off that they took this bill and turned him into a gay dad who commits suicide after his "lover" has terminal cancer or some shi where as here hes a hardened survivalist who'd never even consider the thought and pushed his "partner" away cause hes such a hardass and yet at the end of the day hes a man of his word who will pay his debts to people who paid theirs
It was implied in the game that he was gay...but we didn't need an entire movie about his life with Frank. AND they fucking killed him off screen.
How is bill a gay dad if he’s gay and obviously adoption ain’t a thing here. And wouldn’t it make more sense that a honorable hardass survivalist who keeps his word wouldn’t push away the one person he loved in a scenario where he knows that person would likely die without them and yeah the hard ass survivalist probably only stayed in this lone wolf act because he became devoid of compassion so wouldn’t it also make sense that if when that type of person finally lets someone in and that someone dies that the survivalist Bill wouldn’t see the purpose any more in surviving
People are mad about Bill's portrayal in the show lmao Some of you clearly don't realise he was very much gay in the game and missed the clues. Not only that, but the show was able to humanise side-characters even more (like Tess and now Bill) and give them a complex story that is absolutely vital to Joel's and Ellie's arc. Bill shows that despite all the evil, cruelty and loss in the world, there is always that one person worth saving as he mentioned in the letter to Joel and that one person was Frank. Now, that one person for Joel will be Ellie.
Like I said, not only it humanised Bill, it also gave us one of the most beautiful stories and no, it's not some "gay propaganda" or "woke" stuff. You're okay with straight couples being always present in basically every show or movie but when there is a gay couple, you people have an issue with that.
The episode was pretty mediocre in moving the plot forward for a season with 9 episodes.
@@denisjon6873 that's your opinion and i completly disagree. The episode was a masterpiece and made more sense to Bill since it's a character that you only visit once in the whole lore of the game. So kudos to the producer for their choice, it was brilliant.
Fr the game even showed Ellie kissing Dina 😭😭
@@Sn00py89 It's not even an opinion, the only part that moved the current plot forward was Bill's letter to Joel. That's a fact.
@@denisjon6873 The Fact is they needed a car, your point is just wrong because even the letter wasn't important, only the car. The sequence both in the show and the game was primarily for world building and Joel's connection to the world and Ellie which is exactly what the episode did. If you wanted to watch people mindlessly fight goons without agency, you can go watch the walking dead.
He could have been Dan Harmon