the fact that you are a Christian Apologist who upholds critical thinking and calls out cults… so edifying and wonderful to hear. Praying for you! thank you for all you do 💖💖✝️
Critical thinking is only effective if you are seeking truth. Many Critically read the Bible. Your mindset needs to be open to honestly seek Truth. Entering into a study or search already prepared to find fault, then all you will find is fault and be critical. Seek to know the Truth first and foremost and you will find it.
Melissa is very good at click bait. Oops I did it again. I took the bait. First of all the term that is now used for Cults is High Control Groups. How can you have critical thinking if you are threatened with hell. How can you have critical thinking if you are told a particular interpretation of the bible is truth. Because?@josemedina-kl8hv
I starting seeing through the garbage back in early 2020. Absolutely nothing made any sense. And when nothing makes sense, it all makes perfect sense. There are still people wearing masks, to this day. I can see if you are immuno-comprimised, but perfectly healthy people got their brains wrecked. Fear is a heck of a motivator. People used to give me all kinds of crazy looks for not wearing a mask, or for refusing the jab. Now they tell me they wished they had listened to me. It's sad to see people so lost and confused, and to have it done to them on purpose is just psychopathic.
It's happening to the conservative side too. A special balloon, a special train wreck in Ohio, the recent border things. All these were/are easily stoppable, but they are/were not. It elicits fear that appeals to the emotional side of us. For reference I am Conservative. It's just something I've noticed lately.
How are the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization and the American Education System not all cults? Social Credit Scores will be enforced soon 😢
I was in a Calvinist church. Authoritarian pastor approach. Illusion of deep fellowship but as soon as I questioned Calvinism (after 17 years being in agreement there) no discussions allowed. I became “divisive, dangerous, etc.” lost every friend after we left… Lied about, slandered, gossiped about etc. very ungodly and sad situation. The saddest is you don’t know this is the reality unless you “fall out of line.”
You are definitely onto something. During the whole co.vid situation, the way that we were being manipulated, coerced, censored and gaslighted, all just looked to me like an abusive relationship but on a grander scale.
Same trick played for centuries. Christianity, invisible god. COVID, invisible virus. If you don't accept Jesus as your god you will go to hell. If you don't accept COVID vaccination you will......both use the same method for the useless fearful eaters.
I am on a similar journey as you described. A couple JWs came to my door and shook me-- not because I believed any of their twistings but because I realized how unprepared I was to answer their twistings--- and that sent me down a spiral to finally start getting serious about scripture and changed my life really! Shout out to the JWs for waking up us sleepy Christians lol.
I like going the not of this world route, they can’t try to control my vessel if I as the soul in between mind and body are cognizant of our situation. Then it breaks them and makes them question everything because a random ass person like me is able to perceive our construct of time and all the moments it has to offer, meanwhile they’re stuck in a singular subjective reality.
I come out of a church where the pastor told me, when I started disagreeing, I MUST LISTEN to him, and I was like : no, God is my final authority, not you. But it took me about 4 years to get to that point😢 and by the grace of God I could see what I couldn't see before. So mind control is real, I can totally relate
It’s crazy how applicable everything you listed is to the “trust the science” group over the last few years. From the near veneration of Dr. F to the mockery of anyone who dared to raise objections, to the shunning of friends and family. It’s disturbing to witness how effective using fear was at getting people to relinquish their ability and duty to think critically.
I think woke-ism itself, is a type of religion, they claim the higher morals, and if you don't voice agreement they demonize you they reference you to their venerated and almost holy celebrities that are treated as heros and bishops, whose word is gospel until they say something wrong and are excommunicated, they are taking control of the language and deciding what words are taboo and adding others to enforce their beliefs. Traditionally religious roles.
...AMEN!!!! God took me out of mormonism 18 years ago, led me to His Word, to Him, hallelujah to His High and Holy Name for ever....please pray that our brothers and sisters in all these evil cults will have the thick scales fall off their eyes to be able to logically rationally see and know The One and Only Truth. Amen
Gina, any recommendations for when LDS missionaries want to meet with you? My wife and I met with some today and had a good conversation. I shared the Gospel, but they were undeterred and want to do an LDS study with us. I agreed in order to keep the conversation going, but this is all new territory for me. I want to reach these two with love and the gospel. As a former Mormon, any recommendations?
@@ltdannicholsFormer Mormon here. It might be best to connect with someone from your church who has experience talking gently with LDS missionaries. Basically, stand firm, and hold to your beliefs. They will "bear their testimony" that they "know the LDS Church is the true church of God on the earth, today," and that "Joseph Smith was a true prophet." You can counter that by telling them that while you appreciate their sincerity, those are statements of BELIEF and not knowledge. Good luck!!
@@MattTheBandGuy that's how our first talk went. They explained to me that since they felt an excitement deep within them one day while reading the Book of Mormon, they bear witness that it must be true. However, I can also claim that same feeling from reading the Bible, and I've met people who claim that from reading the Quran. When I asked about objective truths and evidence to base our beliefs upon, they simply said it is a mystery why God would allow people from other religions to feel that internal excitement from a differing religion. They did not seem phased by the fact that they base their faith on feeling and not on knowledge and evidence. I was actually rather surprised by this.
@@ltdannicholswe base our faith on our personal experiences with the Holy Ghost. Not feelings per se. as you do I’m sure. Through prayer, quiet promptings of the spirit and scripture study as he line upon line teaches me. And answers me.
To me its simular to using the Lords name in vain. Nobody curses saying Budha, Krishna, Allah, etc... only Jesus Christ or God. Why? Because everyone knows deep down He is true.
Allah (al-ilah) just means 'God' in Arabic & is used by Arabic speaking Christians & Jews as well as Muslims. Yes, of the 100 names of the God of the Bible, some are used as expletives (though it is expressly forbidden to do so) & even using the name of Jesus (Hedhrat 'Isa) - - - considered a Prophet in Islam - - as an expletive is forbidden. As for Krishna, Shiva, Lakshmi et al., they are used (in often very creative though crude ways) as expletives... Though not by their devotees. Buddha is different, though. I haven't ever heard Buddha being used as an expletive yet. The virgin Mary, on the other hand, is a very popular expletive (as are the names of Saints, Devas, Orisha, et al) in some parts of the world. If you want to find other examples, you don't need to look far. Just search for expletives in (pre-Christian) Greece, Rome, Ireland (the Irish ones are as creative as they are poetic, a tradition that still seems to remain on the island), et c.
I am an ex JW living in Australia. I was involved in the occult before joining them for 2 years. I studied my way out - that was 25 years ago. I am a christian.
Great video! You really described our current culture.. based on feelings, not allowed to question, not allowed to disagree, you are told you are racist, and bigoted, even if you are not, they redefine words, cancel and reject anyone who questions the norm, your true identity is found in thinking, feeling and championing the cause of the cultural narrative. Whether social justice, LGBTQ ideology, wokeness... And more! And agreed! We need to watch out for this in the church! The enemy seems to be using this tactic everywhere. Thanks for the great content!
@@intellectually_lazyabsolutely nothing my friend. Theyre just mad and bitter and think the world they talk down on OWES them something. These crazy whiteys. And adjacents to whitey. Hispanics. Asians. Etc.
AND the "must sleep, must wake up" at a certain time... forcing a huge segment of the population (whose circadian rhythms are later naturally) to adhere to a 9-5 structure that is energetically antagonistic to their wellbeing and functioning.
"Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account." (Hebrews 4:13) Amen.
Thanks, your breakdown was 100% correct. I grew up JW. Thank God, I was pulled away from the Cult of JW. It left my entire family broken and segregated. There are aunts and uncles, cousins and grandparents that I never had a chance to meet. The organization still has my mother, and it's been decades since we have been able to see each other. Pray for her, I pray she will be freed from the manipulation and control every day. It's been over 20 years, and it still hurts to be considered apostate for my Christian life. But God is good and has given me a new life and family. Bless you all.
This is one of the best videos you have produced. Logic and critical thinking are all but gone these days. Shame, fear and "love bombing" are all over the place. I have experienced these things myself. This stuff is much more common now than it was in previous decades. When I practiced the occult, I used these tactics to manipulate people. Thank you Jesus for your forgiveness and mind renewal. Thank you Jesus for making me a new creation.
That is encouraging to hear from a former mormon. Mormons can be hard to reach. They are very wrap up in their belief and don't seem to hold the Bible to the same authority level as the book of mormon. Would you mind sharing what sparked your curiosity to come out of the religion? Thank you in advance!
My mom was a generational Mormon. She tried to get me involved , but thank goodness Jesus had other plans. Finally, at 95 she gave her life to Jesus. Soon after, she told my son that the Mormon church is wrong. She has now been in heaven for 10 years and I know she is having a great time!
@@CalledUntoHolinessI can tell you for me it was the Book of Mormon. When I realized that the Book of Mormon taught a different doctrine than what we actually practice in the LDS faith it caused a lot of cognitive dissonance. The Book of Mormon clearly teaches salvation through faith in Christ. No mention of temples, no mention of priesthood authority, no mention of a one true church. I still love the Book of Mormon in the same way I love CS Lewis. There are certain concepts in there that are wonderful. However, everything I read must align with the New testament's teachings otherwise I toss it out. The main issue I see is that the church follows the teachings of Brigham Young. When I went to the source documents what I found was that Brigham Young taught a very different doctrine than Joseph Smith did. Further most of the books I've read about Joseph Smith are based upon information that would never stand up in a court of law. When you actually look at primary sources Joseph is a much different character. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but as I've reviewed credible sources it appears that Joseph was never a polygamist. Shortly after Joseph died polygamy exploded and Brigham Young took the reins. Joseph struggled with money his whole life, and after his death, Brigham Young became a millionaire. The other thing that swayed me was the doctrine part of the Doctrine & Covenants which the LDS church removed in the 1920s. The original Doctrine had to be removed because it didn't align with the teachings of Brigham Young. I discovered that the church we have today was heavily influenced by the corrupt teachings of Brigham Young.
God keeps bringing JW to me. I'd love to hear how you were saved and anything that's good to discuss with those still in the organisation. Praise God, I see him really going for those in the JW, I'd love to see more born again in that group!!!
I find this video useful for Christians to watch. I noticed when i got saved i went to an SDA church for a brief period, and they were ecstatic that i hadnt been indoctrinated yet. Which led me to believe they thought i would be easily indoctrinated by them. Unfortunately for them i had already read the Bible and made a commitment to Jesus that i would follow no man but only Him. Great video and God bless!
Because an SDA church said you hadn't been indoctrinated yet you thought they wanted to? Was there specific doctrines they taught that aren't biblically based? Just curious.
I don't know much about them, other than they recognize Saturday as the true Sabbath and have to say they are very much correct on that! I don't attend any church. I read the Bible, pray and Christian. The Bible states to follow after no one, other than God's Teaching
@@marysmith861I can answer that😂 infact just today i put a 2.5 page thesis on the doors of the napier sda nz( during service) telling them exactly where they are wrong biblically , I'm assuming your a current sda??, so I feel I should warn you first, your not going to like the answers, I have for you on their teachings, and to which part is majorly wrong!!. Are you still Interested?? Are you still confident??
The Bible says, dress, respectfully. God is not please with the way of the world. Jesus said, he who loves, the things of the world, the love of the Father is not in them.find the scriptures, for your self.
@@skylarsartnphotography3450 check out God's calendar. It's nothing like the Gregorian calendar we use today. They are not very much correct on Saturday as the true Sabbath. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
I appreciate the idea of removing cult behaviors from a strictly religious context. I mean, in a sense, even secular groups with cult-like behaviors are a form of religious worship, but you know what I mean.
I've been noticing this for the past like 2 years and recently had basically the same conclusion that you did. People are cruel to those who don't beleive in mainstream ideas not because they themselves beleive it, but because they are scared of the exil that comes with not just agreeing with non-mainstream ideas, but even being friends with or associating at ALL with different views. They've seen the punishment that occurs when you associates with those who don't agree with the powerful ones. And they are so scared that they convince themselves they beleive mainstream ideas, when really, they probably don't. They're just terrified.
This reminds me of how my ex was..... manipulative and gaslighting. The truth always comes out. Thank you for sharing the truth about these cults. I recently began writing letters to my uncle who is a Jehovah's Witness. So far Ive shared a gospel tract and he repsonded to my letter so i see that as an open door. Please pray he is receptive. I wrote him back and he should be getting that letter soon 🙏
This was a great explanation of cults, and our culture. My brother is a Seventh Day Adventist and it is difficult to have any type of conversation about religion. The upside is that it forced me to really study the Bible so that I could explain why I believed what I believed and where his beliefs are NOT based in the Bible.
@julessmith7480 Thanks, I'm not a SDA, but I do think they have the day right. I am trying to throw out ALL the christian denominational teaching I have had and just going back to the book as my only source.
I’m only listening for a few moments here, but immediately I can tell you are giving the real information, on a topic you have some experience with. This is a very serious matter, of course.
Very thorough. One additional "tell" of a cult is an urgent but unreachable goal. The urgency of the goal creates an "ends justify the means" mentality. A common one in Christian cults has been "win the world to Jesus in our generation."
This is fabulous. Just fantastic. Well done. Most especially at the end, the way you tie it all together with objective truth. I am 51 and have spent my life searching for truth and found it in Christ (26 years ago). It is astonishing to see how powerful and important the truth is. As you said, all cults are the same, even though they have not colluded with each other. And in their lies, they prove Christ true. Brava!!
I've been watching your channel for a week or so now and you have become part of my daily routine. You speak well and are very informative. I've seen your lessons on cults and thought I would ask you it you have ever shared Galatians 1:8 and 9 with them. I think this is the best answer for them.
When I became born again Christian my Catholic family shunned me and has treated me as an outsider. When I questioned the unbiblical teachings of a church I attended I was viewed as a trouble maker. It amazes me how “pastors” will continue to teach things not found in scripture but because it’s domination teaches it they accept it as truth and don’t allow anyone to challenge it.
I come from a Catholic background as well. We aren’t supposed to question the priest. Which had me thinking 🤔… I’m an outsider from my extended family… I am Christian now and my husband, mom and sisters are Christian too. Unfortunately my dad loves our Christian church and our beliefs however, he still says he’s catholic and idolizes the Virgin Mary..
I was raised catholic...became born again in a very fringe charismatic cultists church that kicked me our when I followed the Bible. This happens in all denominations. Jesus has led me back to catholicism....which is really the last place I expected, but don't discount all your catholic brothers and sisters as non-Christian, please.
I used to be in a "Christian" cult, the Word-Faith movement. And I occasionally challenged some of their teachings, but they would say that I was not respecting "God's anointed". I could give some examples, but I'll spare the reader.
Melissa, in approx. 28 min you did a great job at laying this down. In my witness to our local cult, I've been accused as a purveyor of hate and a "liar". It's sad and fascinating at the same time. Religious cults are ruled spiritually by a fallen entity of the kingdom of darkness. Make no mistake, they are ruled by that kingdom. The puppet is the charismatic/authoritarian human leader. The victims, the serfs, are the congregants who are lured or born into that false, flawed and fatal system. There is another point concerning cults that is notable; the identities of cult members morph into the identity of their fallen spiritual leader. Cult members become an extension of that dark kingdom; all it takes is a little scratching of the surface and it comes out.
I left a small congregation a couple years ago. I only attended a few times. At first everyone was nice and welcoming. Little by little they all turned mean. They all picked on one lady that I really liked because of her spiritual insights. She finally quit going. Then I noticed the pastor was not so nice to me. I was out of there fast.
This reminds me of the Word of Faith movement. I don't think it's a cult, but it has some similar thoughts. The thought control and control of information reminds me of what we believed. Maybe it wasn't communicated directly, but it was inferred. I know people who have a fear of listening to someone who disagrees with their leaders. There is a fear that if they entertain different ideas or beliefs, something bad will happen to them, or they are showing a lack of faith.
YES Word of Faith movement is steeped in this and it is inferred and full of manipulation. One of the WOF pastors tried their it’s my way or no way and I have nothing to do with these people.
This is going to be a very odd comment (especially since I'm 28 and you're probably in your 30s) but here we go. Melissa, I wish you could be my mom. I don't currently have a close mom-figure in my life and when I watch your videos, the godliness I see in you just really makes me wish I had someone like you as a mother in my life. May God bless you Melissa.
Be careful sweetheart! You are in a very vulnerable position if you are looking for a person other than Christ to mentor and nurture you. The Holy Spirit will teach comfort and counsel you. People will always let you down one way or another--Jesus is who you need.
I appreciate this so much! I am an absolute believer in Jesus Christ and I love The Lord. But I can't make myself go to church or to trust church people, and I've always wondered what was wrong with me. The church I was raised in was exactly how you describe a cult! It was called a Baptist church but all of the elements of a cult were there. We were told the preacher was the mouthpiece of God and anything he said was from God. It sounds easy to say, "ok then, now you know the truth, so you can be free from all that". But that's not true at all! I am still very much influenced by this spirit of "what if they were right?", and it's scary! I actually have psychological problems from those yrs. I have huge anxiety issues, including horrible panic attacks because of the picture of God that was ingrained in me as a child. And I see church people as smiling as warm to your face, but demonic and scary with evil motives just below the surface. I wonder sometimes if I'm really saved because it feels like I'm in rebellion to God and the truth because of the things they told me. I remember reading passages like, "whom the son sets free is free indeed" or "you will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on thee", and thinking, "that's not true!!! My mind is constantly on you and it torments me!" Thank you so much for making this video! I've never heard anybody validate these things. Please pray for me that I can be set free from this evil spirit that is still with me at 60 yrs old! Thank you in advance, ~Tony Phillips
Hey brother Tony, how are you today? I will definitely pray for you today. I find the scripture you pointed out interesting. But first I want to remind you that Jesus gave us power over all our enemies, even over evil spirits. Cast out that evil spirit, and demand it back to where it came from, and command it not return, in the name of Jesus Christ. ( Yes God gives us that power, but we must do it in His name.) " Perfect peace, who's mind is stayed on Thee. ". The, " Thee ", is Jesus , Jesus is the living word, the Bible, so we need to stay in the word of God if we want that perfect peace. " Whom the Son sets free, is free indeed" is from John Ch 8:36. John Ch 8:32 says" and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. ( Jesus is the truth, His word is truth. ) We must meet the condition in the prior verse to be set free by the truth . John Ch 8: 31 Jesus said, " If ye continue in My word, ( the Bible ) then are ye My disciples indeed, " So to be set free, and have peace of mind, we need not to listen to some man behind a pulpit, nor attend a certain church, or go to church once or twice a week nor attend a certain denomination. But rather we we need to read and study our Heavenly Father's Word so we may have a peace of mind and know what things will befall us tomorrow, and what things will transpire in the future. This is how we are set free. 2 Thess Ch 2:15 -- Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed ( confused ), rightly dividing the word of truth. I hope and will pray that this scripture will help you out a bit. Have a wonderful day, and our Heavenly Father's blessings to you, and yours.
@@Michael--12 thank you so much for the encouraging words! It is amazing how people can twist scripture into something completely negative and condemning. I have spent most of my life trying to break free from those chains on my mind. It's amazing how strong those ingrained lies are. I do know the truth now, but I still struggle if I'm in the company of people with those old beliefs. I'm thankful for communities like this where I can come to and knock down those old thoughts and fears with the truth of Jesus Christ. Thank you again!
First time I'm realizing that a lot of this can be found in plain old abusive situations too. Cults just turn abuse to a group and have a bit more documenting perhaps
Watching this brings so much relief! I have been experiencing so much of this in a new town that I moved to where I do not know anyone. Gossip has been a problem and it seems very tribal/territorial. People asked to 'talk' and then I am confronted with the end result of a long telephone game distortion of things that I have 'said'.....it was love bombing, tell us your dirt, and then we create it into something it's not and broadcast a 'reputation' about you..... it is toxic and just like being in an abusive relationship. This behavior is NOT Jesus. I appreciate this video/advice so much, thank you!
Thank you for this shared knowledge. I have been born and raised in the church of Jesus Christ of latter day days. I NEVER considered it a cult. I started reading Isaiah and considered he was talking about our church and poof the spell has been broken. I still consider the BOM a scripture that can stand alone. It really does testify of Christ and actually tells us to read and study the words of Isaiah. That’s why I did. I had this great desire to look up what cults were. I started by watching the documentary on Scientology. Wow that was eye opening. Ever since I’ve been so curious about how human history and our brains work in those ways. It’s been so freeing. I still go to church as of now because it’s such a hard transition when it’s habit and community. My son is committed to another year on a mission but I pray he will meet someone like you to help him see clearly. He knows how I feel. God is working on my husband. ❤️ Pray for us friends in Christ. 🙏🏼 ✝️
I pray you have the courage and conviction to walk away and find a church that teaches God’s truth alone (not man’s ideas). Ask God to show you where to go.
Came here to offer support. I was also LDS for my whole life, until God opened my eyes and showed me the truth. It's interesting how much more meaningful scripture becomes when read without any preconceived ideas, or the need to read it through the perspective of your current religion. God is good, and he's going to help your husband, just like he helped me and my family. I'll pray for you both.
Molly I can relate! Discovering the truth about 9/11, freemasonry, flat earth, etc was instrumental in galvanizing my faith in the Bible being the truth of God.
@Matthew-307 Yes (and same) to all of that! Every single rabbit hole I went down ended up funneling into one thing: Luciferianism. Blew my mind, all the hidden in plain sight stuff! Thank you for sharing, brother. It's quite a wild ride to learn about those things. 😊 Blessings!
@marysmith861 Oh, absolutely; there's quite a lot I have to say. 😅 I've been considering writing a book after having it be suggested to me over the years by enough people -- friends & strangers. Jesus at the center, though! 💛 I've got some things to say about that beautiful man who saved my life (literally with a visitation). Blessings to you! 🫂
@anotherperspective8263 Its ties with the CIA and Hollywood (filled to the brim with freemasonry & occultism) have literally everything to do with Christianity, or rather, actively bastardizing everything Christianity. I found the specificity of that to be interesting. So, I sought Yeshua, and now I'm here. 😊 I'm also glad I know my enemy from many angles. It's been helpful in growing discernment.
Loved this!! Also wanted to say a massive thank you on your video series on the Jehovah Witnesses. You helped me realize how our call to love our neighbors, looks also like studying more into cults because love rejoices in truth. So now I’ve been far more equipped to love my jehovah witness door knockers and invite them in to become friends and share the truth in love. Also your recommendation for the book ‘Tactics’ by Greg Koukl, I’m super grateful- that’s also been a fantastic tool to have when witnessing! … I’ve also learnt unfortunately, no matter how gently when can share the truth in love, it doesn’t mean we will be treated the same. Unfortunately my last Jehovah Witness friends that came to teach me their bible study reacted negatively, but I pray a seed has been planted and a pebble in their shoe has been placed! It’s great knowing that’s our only job, the Holy Spirit does the rest!
I was in a Charismatic, Pentecostal false prophet cult. That started out as a innocent intercessory prayer group. But eventually centered around the individual Mark Vanderstoep as being the. 'New Modern Moses" of a" New Move of God ". Based on sinless perfection. In fact the cult is called" The GROUP ". It is currently in the Arvada Colorado area. It is not a isolated group. But a common cancer in Charismatic Churches. Particularly the Mega Churches. Ie. Churches within the church . Small churches in the pews of Mega Churches. She is talking exactly what I went through for 10 years. I got out, but ended up in 1988. A whole year in the mental hospital. Suffering from schziophrenia. God eventually healed and restored me to sanity in late January, or early February 1989.
Very lovely unpacking of the devil's attempt to choke the vulnerables in life. Many greetings from a small village in Indonesia. I am a hardcore Christian. Thanks God for helping me acquiring the English language up till this stage.
Melissa, your approach, tone and temperament is outstanding. What your channel produces is stellar, I'm certain the Lord's grace is in the work of your hands.
I love that you called out the father of LIES for what it is. Also that without God, there is no objective standard for truth. This is the state of so many all around us. Thank you, Melissa. God bless you.
I remember reading "The Mind Benders" by Sparks. At the time the Mooniescwere were Everywhere and even tried to infiltrate our Church. The Berean Call was really helpful too. I can see where Dave Hunt helped to prepare me to recognize NAR teaching. "Study to show yourselves approved"
You've just answered a question that I had for a long time. 'Why does every extremist form of government forbidds christianity?' Because mind control doesn't work when you stay in Gods word❤
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You just described many Christian well established churches and those in it do not see they are being controlled until they are out of it. Your voice is refreshing. Always keep seeking.
My son is currently going through being indoctrinated and we are desperately trying to get him away. There multiple other factors at play but your video was 🤯🤯 That is exactly what has happened to him. Ty! I’m going to have to refer to this video a lot. We are in the war to save our 15yo son. Pray for us please. Many Blessings
Invited to think critically I want to point out a logical error you make in the end. The fact that separate cults share the same BITE characteristics does not mean there is some underlying behind the scenes coordination going on. It merely implies that for a cult to be successful it has to do these things right. The other ones just don't make it. It's like evolution. Also the BITE model is derived from studying successful cults. Not the other way around. So naturally they all share those features. Thank you for this otherwise very clear and enlightening video. It's very important to be aware of this because it is rampant in society today. Very much so in the political realm rather than the religious. And as an unnecessary, possibly unwanted, yet totally sincere compliment I wish to say that I find you a stunningly beautiful woman.
Great video! Thank you for sharing as this is a major problem in the local Churches. Really think people should wake up to this deceptive control and play on one's emotions.😊
There are a lot of mind games played with tithing in churches that preach on it. One way to prevent this is to reject the Sermon as a normative weekly practice because it doesn't let the brethren treat each other as equals. Jesus said 'let no call you rabbi, for there is one teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren' . I'm not necessarily calling churches that preach tithing in an unhealthy ways cults, but it's not healthy and does make abuse quite possible. Hmmm...
@@anotherperspective8263 Of the ceremony? Of the building? Of leadership? As long as we don't weave the building and leadership into doctrine in ways that are not warranted by the Bible, it's fine, but the more different sects attempt to do this, the more they create confusion, division, and, far too often, a means of abuse. So I can understand your perspective, is a church building a Malachi storehouse from your vantage point? Are tithes required OR should they be strongly 'recommended' to believers as a 'principle' outside the law (or that existed before the law)? Do you or does leadership in your church typically conflate firstfruits and tithing? Does your church typically categorize all works of service and all acts of adulation under the umbrella of 'worship'. These are common errors of church leaders seeking to justify their authority and mode of collecting revenue. And it would be really nice to receive a response on some of the particular questions instead of a redirect. Few people that I discuss these issues with seem to want to answer these questions. Unfortunately, I can only assume that to be a tacit admission that their church does engage in these perspectives. Either that or it's a 'see no, evil, hear no evil' response that they have not heard of that being done anywhere - what am I talking about. (gaslighting)
@anotherperspective8263 Of the ceremony? Of the building? Of leadership? As long as we don't weave the building and leadership into doctrine in ways that are not warranted by the Bible, it's fine, but the more different sects attempt to do this, the more they create confusion, division, and, far too often, a means of abuse. So I can understand your perspective, is a church building a Malachi storehouse from your vantage point? Are tithes required OR should they be strongly 'recommended' to believers as a 'principle' outside the law (or that existed before the law)? Do you or does leadership in your church typically conflate firstfruits and tithing? Does your church typically categorize all works of service and all acts of adulation under the umbrella of 'worship'. These are common errors of church leaders seeking to justify their authority and mode of collecting revenue. And it would be really nice to receive a response on some of the particular questions instead of a redirect. Few people that I discuss these issues with seem to want to answer these questions. Unfortunately, I can only assume that to be a tacit admission that their church does engage in these perspectives. Either that or it's a 'see no, evil, hear no evil' response that they have not heard of that being done anywhere - as in - what am I even talking about? (gaslighting)
Melissa! I love your videos! Your videos and others convicted me that I didn’t know the Bible very well. Over the past 5 years+ I’ve been working to change that. Thank-you!
Been on this earth for 71 years. Have seen and been threw alot. But this is the clearest on this subjective heard in a long time. Well done. God bless.
My oldest friend is mormon and things have gotten to the point that I will no longer discuss our differences because she refuses to look at anything other than the way her leaders allow.
My mom was like this. She was Mormon. I did not discuss religion with her. She hated that I was born again. She could see that I was different. But, one night I went to visit her and she gave her life to Jesus. Keep praying for your friend. Let your light shine! She already knows and fighting the truth. God knows how to humble her.
Thank you Melissa! I have learned so much about cults and narcissists from my own experience of them. I’ve learned cult behaviour goes across all controlling, manipulative, bullying people, whether the cult of one, to work places and groups. I am now seeking to understand God’s perspective in his word. I need to know how to protect myself from these people, who are everywhere!
What an amazing episode. This is such a powerful video it must be viewed by more people. I got your 'koolaid in the fridge' (@2:46) reference. You actually know what you are talking about. Amazing information!
A narcissist with a basic understanding of gnosticism can start a cult with very little effort. They are extremely adept at gaslighting and use people's empathy against them.
I was under really heavy conviction for 2 years. When a couple jehovah's witnesses approached me. I was really impressed that they were quoting so much bible since I was almost totally Ignorant of it. But I quickly told them, " no thanks i'm catholic" And shortly after that I got born again! JULY 4th 1986. I still haven't gotten over it!
Good presentation. I was once in a small town (more churches than people) and if you asked one person about another's congregation the answer was "That's a cult." You could walk down the street, ask and get for the next one "cult, cult, cult ... ." People need to know what to be cautionary. Moreso they need to follow the legitimate Biblical translations, and more-so have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ and a baptism of His Holy Spirit. It's that simple. No, I am not starting a cult.
Some fantastic thoughts here! My first thought is that it is very difficult to find any religion that really welcomes or even tolerates critical thinking. Mostly because the leaders are human and humans have egos. No one really wants to be questioned or challenged. Also, to your point I'll quote Scott Peck (of The Road Less Traveled) "there is no such thing as a good hand-me down religion" I hear this as - you have to find it for yourself. 🙂
Yeah I was in the Way International and they were definitely a cult. Depending on what part of Hebrew roots you were in, there was an overlap with The Way and your movement from someone who left the Way and helped begin part of Hebrew Roots
23:00 that is uniform and properly following the contract you signed. that is integrity and honesty... not forced compliance where YOU *can't* leave. 23:25 that's self-inflicted anxiety and not by the group and thus not cult-like behavior. that is what needs to be isolated... not that you are in a cult cause of your actions. but the groups response to critical thinking, doubt, or any other form of wavering. if they attack and don't apologize later and make proper amends... you are in a bad relationship. if you have them then tell you to better fit their mold... it is a cult if they hold you hostage. Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
I think you’re spot-on with everything you’ve said here, Melissa! 🎯💯 Something that I also have noticed recently is that many of these kinds of tactics are being implemented in mainstream conservative evangelical churches as well which is disturbing. We have so many Christians who are frankly just lazy in reading & studying their Bibles, & it’s easier for them to just take the word of their leaders as correct, trustworthy, & Biblical, but even lifelong Christians can be sucked into New Thought & New Age practices because the enemy is subtle, inserting just enough “truth-sounding” into devotional books & “Bible studies” to sound legit & lead people down a wrong path. If those who are aware of these things even dare to mention the dangers or even question, they are often labeled as troublemakers or somehow “less spiritual”, or a conspiracy theorist, or viewed as trying to be a “know-it-all” because certainly these “leaders” know better & are more spiritually mature, etc. It’s almost as if someone’s position in the church makes them automatically infallible in the eyes of the congregation, but if things don’t match up against the standard of the Word, we are to discard it. In the meantime, these leaders end-up leading people down the same wrong path with them because Christians aren’t guarding their own hearts & testing things against the Word in these last days. One area I’ve noticed that is really taking root is all of these people reading the writings of “the desert fathers” & other mystics such as St. Teresa of Avila, Brother Lawrence , St.John of the cross, etc., to be taken as an example from which to model one’s Christian walk. Would you perhaps be able to do a video on this topic of mysticism being embraced in evangelical churches? I think most Christians are unaware of how these false teachings are infiltrating the church & are tied-in with New Thought/New Age/gnosticism/experiential belief over the truth of scripture & Christ alone. Thanks for your consideration for content.💜✝️
@@scotzmnswife Yeah but I also feel that we should pray for our leaders because its a really hard job and people have so many expectations from them. I have seen some of the youths really getting impatient with the pastor for not satisfactorily answering their queries. I know from my own experience as to how difficult it is to satisfactorily answer some of the theological questions on the spot. The young pastors especially need prayers and support from the others in the church who are more mature in age and experience. Unity is so much important in the body of Christ. Getting offended is so easy but it creates so much disharmony and pain. Love covers a multitude of sins which should be the bottomline of every ministry to grow successfully. No pastor is perfect and no congregation too. So we all need each other to cover others imperfections.
Great, this has been exactly my experience. Was an active member of a church for years, until they started consistently preaching about authority, and when they called me out for following my beliefs and critical thinking, I said that's it, goodbye
My son and his family are in a scripture twisting , new revelation, positive speaking only, emotion provoking, keep you busy 4 nights a week at church, live concert like events , type church.they tell them they are leaders, put in leadership roles, told they have a purpose to fulfill for God, tithe, and give generously , and let’s plant more churches. I think it’s an arc church. The sermons usually have 2 scr. Ref. Taken out of context and twisted or allegorized to mean something different. And everybody thinks it’s just great revelation. Group activity, sense of belonging, ego stroking. Carrot dangling promises such as your breakthrough is coming, God is preparing us for a miracle this year, we are on the cutting edge of the next great move of God, etc.
I understand a lot now after you uncovered a lot I have been experiencing. If a person stays blinded and never understands any of this, then they stay as the person that has been manipulated and control and becomes a manipulator and a controller
i m a victim of cult mind control and lived a life a long while after they damage my self reliance and self soverignty. . I want to watch this thoroughly thanks so much
Listening to this I find many groups on RUclips like this. They have a platform and if you don’t agree with them or did something or say something they suddenly shun you. It’s incredible. Their members are incredibly mean to people coming into their chat with differing views. Total mind manipulation
Great video! I know the Muslim faith discourages questioning the Quran or the Mullah. They are just to accept what they’re told. One trait I see in Christianity is to question. There have been been countless examples of people questioning in search of truth and they find Jesus!
I got pulled into a cult. The church of Wells in Texas. I have up everything to go there. When i questioned the leader i was banished and went into a severe depression. They whispered to me i had taken the mark. In the end it was blessing. I was so dismayed that i turned to God and he answered me. ❤
That is sad. The founders of fundamentalism were scholars, such as James Ore. They were against the liberals view which made the Bible just a human book and just a collection of myths and legends. I have met some of which you talk, in fact, I did not want to admit I was a fundamentalist.
Mind control is crazy. When I was 18yo I got hypnotised to give money…. (Lost $50) And then… poof… as he walked off, I woke up.. and realised what happened.. could not find the guy. Crazy… never again.
I was part if one. It was called the Potters House. Founded by Waymen Mitchell which his son Greg Mitchell is now the head of that fellowship. I was there from 13 till I was 27 I am now 40. It took me years to renew my mind. What I found tho even in your charismatic churches may not be full blown occult but have bad theology. Such as you believe you are healed but if you aren't fully healed that's on you which I believeis word of faith doctrine. It took me years to get out of that thinking. I was diagnosed with major depressive disorder. And it was my fault I wasn't healed. But I began ti understand the depression came from alot of the abuse within this occult I came out of then further wounding came through word of faith movement. Crazy times. It's a mind flip. LOL. I research alot now and I have more maturity and decernment over some of these ways.
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the fact that you are a Christian Apologist who upholds critical thinking and calls out cults… so edifying and wonderful to hear. Praying for you! thank you for all you do 💖💖✝️
@@michaelsbeverlyI find it weird. Critical thinking made me left christianity.
Critical thinking is only effective if you are seeking truth. Many Critically read the Bible. Your mindset needs to be open to honestly seek Truth. Entering into a study or search already prepared to find fault, then all you will find is fault and be critical. Seek to know the Truth first and foremost and you will find it.
Melissa is very good at click bait. Oops I did it again. I took the bait. First of all the term that is now used for Cults is High Control Groups. How can you have critical thinking if you are threatened with hell. How can you have critical thinking if you are told a particular interpretation of the bible is truth. Because?@josemedina-kl8hv
Amen
Spiritual birth is a birth of logic, a birth of reasonability
“If truth harms your beliefs then your beliefs are not grounded in truth”. 💥💥
That’s gold right there
Yes, The truth. Not my truth or your truth.
Cults don't allow for critical thinking.
"Leave your brain at the door. You don't need it here. Just obey your all-knowing elders!"
To be-lie-ve anything never was the same as KNOWING from within❤
Shalum eleichem
That applies to all religions. 😂
these are the same tactics the gov. was using during covid, and I was telling people even showing people the tactics of cults and mind control.
Narcissistic abuse and thought reform at its finest. I tried telling people too.
@camptownlady4916 Yep. You're right and then the gaslighting followed.
I starting seeing through the garbage back in early 2020. Absolutely nothing made any sense. And when nothing makes sense, it all makes perfect sense. There are still people wearing masks, to this day. I can see if you are immuno-comprimised, but perfectly healthy people got their brains wrecked. Fear is a heck of a motivator. People used to give me all kinds of crazy looks for not wearing a mask, or for refusing the jab. Now they tell me they wished they had listened to me. It's sad to see people so lost and confused, and to have it done to them on purpose is just psychopathic.
It's happening to the conservative side too. A special balloon, a special train wreck in Ohio, the recent border things. All these were/are easily stoppable, but they are/were not. It elicits fear that appeals to the emotional side of us.
For reference I am Conservative. It's just something I've noticed lately.
How are the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization and the American Education System not all cults? Social Credit Scores will be enforced soon 😢
I was in a Calvinist church. Authoritarian pastor approach. Illusion of deep fellowship but as soon as I questioned Calvinism (after 17 years being in agreement there) no discussions allowed. I became “divisive, dangerous, etc.” lost every friend after we left…
Lied about, slandered, gossiped about etc. very ungodly and sad situation. The saddest is you don’t know this is the reality unless you “fall out of line.”
I’m glad you are educating people on Calvinism with your videos 😊
Calvinism is heretical
Very sad! Many people are in religious cults and don't even know it.
@@janekay4147How so?
Yess!!! Instant enemy! Questions not allowed.
You are definitely onto something. During the whole co.vid situation, the way that we were being manipulated, coerced, censored and gaslighted, all just looked to me like an abusive relationship but on a grander scale.
Thought the same exact thing as it all rolled out.
Same trick played for centuries. Christianity, invisible god. COVID, invisible virus. If you don't accept Jesus as your god you will go to hell. If you don't accept COVID vaccination you will......both use the same method for the useless fearful eaters.
Try being Palestinian under colonial rule.
@@anotherperspective8263belief is the enemy of knowing.
Yeah antivaxers brainwashed a lot of people
I am on a similar journey as you described. A couple JWs came to my door and shook me-- not because I believed any of their twistings but because I realized how unprepared I was to answer their twistings--- and that sent me down a spiral to finally start getting serious about scripture and changed my life really! Shout out to the JWs for waking up us sleepy Christians lol.
the jws i met didn't do bible study or charitable works, and, somehow, they had a church, looked like a mega-, at that, so what fn good are they?
Jumping out of the delusional frying pan and into the fire. Sad
there is a hypnosis for marketing book they were following to a T.
@DrJMMHall Good question. I'm following this convo to see if there's an answer.
I like going the not of this world route, they can’t try to control my vessel if I as the soul in between mind and body are cognizant of our situation. Then it breaks them and makes them question everything because a random ass person like me is able to perceive our construct of time and all the moments it has to offer, meanwhile they’re stuck in a singular subjective reality.
I come out of a church where the pastor told me, when I started disagreeing, I MUST LISTEN to him, and I was like : no, God is my final authority, not you. But it took me about 4 years to get to that point😢 and by the grace of God I could see what I couldn't see before. So mind control is real, I can totally relate
It’s crazy how applicable everything you listed is to the “trust the science” group over the last few years. From the near veneration of Dr. F to the mockery of anyone who dared to raise objections, to the shunning of friends and family. It’s disturbing to witness how effective using fear was at getting people to relinquish their ability and duty to think critically.
It hurts but I needed my family to shun me. It turns out they're very cult-like in their thinking.
I think woke-ism itself, is a type of religion, they claim the higher morals, and if you don't voice agreement they demonize you they reference you to their venerated and almost holy celebrities that are treated as heros and bishops, whose word is gospel until they say something wrong and are excommunicated, they are taking control of the language and deciding what words are taboo and adding others to enforce their beliefs. Traditionally religious roles.
@@anotherperspective8263And that's exactly the Christianity I was raised in.
I was going to make the same comparison. It seems that there is a new religion in town, known as "The Science," and the Vaccine is its sacrament.
...AMEN!!!! God took me out of mormonism 18 years ago, led me to His Word, to Him, hallelujah to His High and Holy Name for ever....please pray that our brothers and sisters in all these evil cults will have the thick scales fall off their eyes to be able to logically rationally see and know The One and Only Truth. Amen
Gina, any recommendations for when LDS missionaries want to meet with you? My wife and I met with some today and had a good conversation. I shared the Gospel, but they were undeterred and want to do an LDS study with us. I agreed in order to keep the conversation going, but this is all new territory for me. I want to reach these two with love and the gospel. As a former Mormon, any recommendations?
@@ltdannicholsFormer Mormon here. It might be best to connect with someone from your church who has experience talking gently with LDS missionaries. Basically, stand firm, and hold to your beliefs. They will "bear their testimony" that they "know the LDS Church is the true church of God on the earth, today," and that "Joseph Smith was a true prophet." You can counter that by telling them that while you appreciate their sincerity, those are statements of BELIEF and not knowledge.
Good luck!!
@@MattTheBandGuy that's how our first talk went. They explained to me that since they felt an excitement deep within them one day while reading the Book of Mormon, they bear witness that it must be true. However, I can also claim that same feeling from reading the Bible, and I've met people who claim that from reading the Quran. When I asked about objective truths and evidence to base our beliefs upon, they simply said it is a mystery why God would allow people from other religions to feel that internal excitement from a differing religion. They did not seem phased by the fact that they base their faith on feeling and not on knowledge and evidence. I was actually rather surprised by this.
@@ltdannicholswe base our faith on our personal experiences with the Holy Ghost. Not feelings per se. as you do I’m sure. Through prayer, quiet promptings of the spirit and scripture study as he line upon line teaches me. And answers me.
In the mighty name of JESUS CHRIST!
That is exactly what our govt in Canada did to us during COVID ....
And Australia
And the USA!
EXACTLY ❤
Lol u have it backwards.
Canada still is, with censorship
"nobody tries to counterfeit fools gold"
Well put, I'm using that
I absolutely love that comment. I'm using it too!
I also commend that comment :) especially when it's applicable to other media, including video games. So true!
@@sandytaylor8482 I want to use it too!
To me its simular to using the Lords name in vain. Nobody curses saying Budha, Krishna, Allah, etc... only Jesus Christ or God. Why? Because everyone knows deep down He is true.
Allah (al-ilah) just means 'God' in Arabic & is used by Arabic speaking Christians & Jews as well as Muslims.
Yes, of the 100 names of the God of the Bible, some are used as expletives (though it is expressly forbidden to do so) & even using the name of Jesus (Hedhrat 'Isa) - - - considered a Prophet in Islam - - as an expletive is forbidden.
As for Krishna, Shiva, Lakshmi et al., they are used (in often very creative though crude ways) as expletives... Though not by their devotees.
Buddha is different, though. I haven't ever heard Buddha being used as an expletive yet. The virgin Mary, on the other hand, is a very popular expletive (as are the names of Saints, Devas, Orisha, et al) in some parts of the world.
If you want to find other examples, you don't need to look far. Just search for expletives in (pre-Christian) Greece, Rome, Ireland (the Irish ones are as creative as they are poetic, a tradition that still seems to remain on the island), et c.
I am an ex JW living in Australia. I was involved in the occult before joining them for 2 years. I studied my way out - that was 25 years ago. I am a christian.
Read the sumarian tablets. Lots of videos on YT about it
@@misslou3624 Why would I read them?
@@ShaneChiswick so you can expand your knowledge about creation ?
@@misslou3624 How do you believe the universe and earth were created?
Great video! You really described our current culture.. based on feelings, not allowed to question, not allowed to disagree, you are told you are racist, and bigoted, even if you are not, they redefine words, cancel and reject anyone who questions the norm, your true identity is found in thinking, feeling and championing the cause of the cultural narrative. Whether social justice, LGBTQ ideology, wokeness... And more!
And agreed! We need to watch out for this in the church! The enemy seems to be using this tactic everywhere.
Thanks for the great content!
it's the globalists cult! started in the US but is spreading around the world :(
tf is wokeness?
@@intellectually_lazyabsolutely nothing my friend. Theyre just mad and bitter and think the world they talk down on OWES them something. These crazy whiteys. And adjacents to whitey. Hispanics. Asians. Etc.
AND the "must sleep, must wake up" at a certain time... forcing a huge segment of the population (whose circadian rhythms are later naturally) to adhere to a 9-5 structure that is energetically antagonistic to their wellbeing and functioning.
@@anotherperspective8263 100%, Christianity literally checks every box!
"Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account."
(Hebrews 4:13)
Amen.
Thanks, your breakdown was 100% correct. I grew up JW. Thank God, I was pulled away from the Cult of JW. It left my entire family broken and segregated. There are aunts and uncles, cousins and grandparents that I never had a chance to meet. The organization still has my mother, and it's been decades since we have been able to see each other. Pray for her, I pray she will be freed from the manipulation and control every day. It's been over 20 years, and it still hurts to be considered apostate for my Christian life. But God is good and has given me a new life and family.
Bless you all.
Praying for your mother, an you also.
My mother died trying to get my brohrs and I to go back to JW’s.
This is one of the best videos you have produced. Logic and critical thinking are all but gone these days. Shame, fear and "love bombing" are all over the place. I have experienced these things myself. This stuff is much more common now than it was in previous decades. When I practiced the occult, I used these tactics to manipulate people. Thank you Jesus for your forgiveness and mind renewal. Thank you Jesus for making me a new creation.
Don't forget the guit😂 it makes me laugh knowing the stupidity of it. But when you are living that reality is heartbreaking and sad.
2 minutes in, I just wanna say, I’ve been in a “weird-mood” funk lately and your sarcasm makes me happy 😂
Lol.
Excellent points. The doublespeaking "think critically" "don't research that" is SO insidious and, unfortunately, effective.
It doesn't work on me. I'm a rebel! Try telling me not to research something and I'll get right on it and go really deep too. 😄
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As a former Mormon this is so important!
That is encouraging to hear from a former mormon. Mormons can be hard to reach. They are very wrap up in their belief and don't seem to hold the Bible to the same authority level as the book of mormon. Would you mind sharing what sparked your curiosity to come out of the religion? Thank you in advance!
My mom was a generational Mormon. She tried to get me involved , but thank goodness Jesus had other plans. Finally, at 95 she gave her life to Jesus. Soon after, she told my son that the Mormon church is wrong. She has now been in heaven for 10 years and I know she is having a great time!
@@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql I love this. Thank you for sharing.
@@CalledUntoHolinessI can tell you for me it was the Book of Mormon. When I realized that the Book of Mormon taught a different doctrine than what we actually practice in the LDS faith it caused a lot of cognitive dissonance. The Book of Mormon clearly teaches salvation through faith in Christ. No mention of temples, no mention of priesthood authority, no mention of a one true church. I still love the Book of Mormon in the same way I love CS Lewis. There are certain concepts in there that are wonderful. However, everything I read must align with the New testament's teachings otherwise I toss it out. The main issue I see is that the church follows the teachings of Brigham Young. When I went to the source documents what I found was that Brigham Young taught a very different doctrine than Joseph Smith did. Further most of the books I've read about Joseph Smith are based upon information that would never stand up in a court of law. When you actually look at primary sources Joseph is a much different character. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but as I've reviewed credible sources it appears that Joseph was never a polygamist. Shortly after Joseph died polygamy exploded and Brigham Young took the reins. Joseph struggled with money his whole life, and after his death, Brigham Young became a millionaire.
The other thing that swayed me was the doctrine part of the Doctrine & Covenants which the LDS church removed in the 1920s. The original Doctrine had to be removed because it didn't align with the teachings of Brigham Young. I discovered that the church we have today was heavily influenced by the corrupt teachings of Brigham Young.
I was a Jehovah’s Witnesses for 7 years till I found out about the Holy Spirit , I’m now born again 😊
Glory! Praying for my 1st cousins
Praise the LORD
❤❤❤
What about Jesus? The Holy Spirit testifies of Jesus, not Himself.
God keeps bringing JW to me. I'd love to hear how you were saved and anything that's good to discuss with those still in the organisation. Praise God, I see him really going for those in the JW, I'd love to see more born again in that group!!!
I find this video useful for Christians to watch. I noticed when i got saved i went to an SDA church for a brief period, and they were ecstatic that i hadnt been indoctrinated yet. Which led me to believe they thought i would be easily indoctrinated by them. Unfortunately for them i had already read the Bible and made a commitment to Jesus that i would follow no man but only Him. Great video and God bless!
Because an SDA church said you hadn't been indoctrinated yet you thought they wanted to? Was there specific doctrines they taught that aren't biblically based? Just curious.
I don't know much about them, other than they recognize Saturday as the true Sabbath and have to say they are very much correct on that! I don't attend any church. I read the Bible, pray and Christian. The Bible states to follow after no one, other than God's Teaching
@@marysmith861I can answer that😂 infact just today i put a 2.5 page thesis on the doors of the napier sda nz( during service) telling them exactly where they are wrong biblically , I'm assuming your a current sda??, so I feel I should warn you first, your not going to like the answers, I have for you on their teachings, and to which part is majorly wrong!!.
Are you still Interested??
Are you still confident??
The Bible says, dress, respectfully. God is not please with the way of the world. Jesus said, he who loves, the things of the world, the love of the Father is not in them.find the scriptures, for your self.
@@skylarsartnphotography3450 check out God's calendar. It's nothing like the Gregorian calendar we use today. They are not very much correct on Saturday as the true Sabbath. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
I appreciate the idea of removing cult behaviors from a strictly religious context. I mean, in a sense, even secular groups with cult-like behaviors are a form of religious worship, but you know what I mean.
The method worked wonderfully during the Covid fiasco.
@DrJMMHall right 😏
@@batterbatterswing as they're the ones lighting the fires
"I am the science!" -Fauci 🤦
😂 exactly what I was thinking.
Also currently happening with our LGBTQ+ community...it has turned into a cult. Very sad.
As CIA-director William Casey said to Ronald Regan: "our job is finished, when nothing the public believes are true anymore". They are almost there.
The problem here is too many are awake now to all the lies. But they tried…
What you described is 100% every single MLM company in the world.
That definitely came to mind, as I listened.
Yes. I HATE mlm’s.
What is an MLM company?
@@sharondoan1447Multilevel Marketing. Companies like Amway and other pyramid scheme companies are MLM.
@@sharondoan1447Multi-level marketing, like Amway
I've been noticing this for the past like 2 years and recently had basically the same conclusion that you did.
People are cruel to those who don't beleive in mainstream ideas not because they themselves beleive it, but because they are scared of the exil that comes with not just agreeing with non-mainstream ideas, but even being friends with or associating at ALL with different views.
They've seen the punishment that occurs when you associates with those who don't agree with the powerful ones.
And they are so scared that they convince themselves they beleive mainstream ideas, when really, they probably don't. They're just terrified.
Spot on. 🎯
Works both ways
Fear is the opposite of Love.
Bullshit
This reminds me of how my ex was..... manipulative and gaslighting. The truth always comes out. Thank you for sharing the truth about these cults. I recently began writing letters to my uncle who is a Jehovah's Witness. So far Ive shared a gospel tract and he repsonded to my letter so i see that as an open door. Please pray he is receptive. I wrote him back and he should be getting that letter soon 🙏
It's wonderful that you are reaching out. I pray that your messages to him are successful. ❤
I pray to Christ Jesus God you get your uncle to the truth 🙏
I don't think we're supposed to be shoving our truths down other people's throats. I don't mean it to sound rude. Is there a better way to say it?
@websurfer5772 sharing isn't forcing. Otherwise, how does the information get out?
@@lindarose3547 Well, I guess only the people involved can decide for themselves what they're really doing. I think I was wrong to say what I did.
This was a great explanation of cults, and our culture. My brother is a Seventh Day Adventist and it is difficult to have any type of conversation about religion. The upside is that it forced me to really study the Bible so that I could explain why I believed what I believed and where his beliefs are NOT based in the Bible.
What beliefs are you talking about?
@@gregorywootton3870 Most have to do with Ellen G. White, their "prophet".
I came out of Seventh Day Adventism. It is so deceptive. I’m so sorry your brother is in it. I’ll be keeping you and him in prayer.
@@elisepackard7759 Thank you for your prayers. I am convinced that only prayer can help him because logic and facts do not work.
@julessmith7480 Thanks, I'm not a SDA, but I do think they have the day right. I am trying to throw out ALL the christian denominational teaching I have had and just going back to the book as my only source.
Hello Saints, the truth should not be confusing.
Amen!
I’m only listening for a few moments here, but immediately I can tell you are giving the real information, on a topic you have some experience with. This is a very serious matter, of course.
Very thorough. One additional "tell" of a cult is an urgent but unreachable goal. The urgency of the goal creates an "ends justify the means" mentality. A common one in Christian cults has been "win the world to Jesus in our generation."
This!!!
This is fabulous. Just fantastic. Well done. Most especially at the end, the way you tie it all together with objective truth. I am 51 and have spent my life searching for truth and found it in Christ (26 years ago). It is astonishing to see how powerful and important the truth is. As you said, all cults are the same, even though they have not colluded with each other. And in their lies, they prove Christ true. Brava!!
Thanks for the video. I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels like things have drastically changed over the last 10 - 15 years.
All planned and it appears that they have no intention of slowing down the change.
I've been watching your channel for a week or so now and you have become part of my daily routine. You speak well and are very informative. I've seen your lessons on cults and thought I would ask you it you have ever shared Galatians 1:8 and 9 with them. I think this is the best answer for them.
This is a GREAT video. It should be required watching in schools and universities, but for obvious reasons, it won’t be.
Well they are basically cult as well, so 🤷♀️
Deep thinking @@Not2daysatan
Cults like to call other groups cults.
When I became born again Christian my Catholic family shunned me and has treated me as an outsider. When I questioned the unbiblical teachings of a church I attended I was viewed as a trouble maker. It amazes me how “pastors” will continue to teach things not found in scripture but because it’s domination teaches it they accept it as truth and don’t allow anyone to challenge it.
I come from a Catholic background as well. We aren’t supposed to question the priest. Which had me thinking 🤔… I’m an outsider from my extended family… I am Christian now and my husband, mom and sisters are Christian too. Unfortunately my dad loves our Christian church and our beliefs however, he still says he’s catholic and idolizes the Virgin Mary..
I was raised catholic...became born again in a very fringe charismatic cultists church that kicked me our when I followed the Bible. This happens in all denominations. Jesus has led me back to catholicism....which is really the last place I expected, but don't discount all your catholic brothers and sisters as non-Christian, please.
I used to be in a "Christian" cult, the Word-Faith movement. And I occasionally challenged some of their teachings, but they would say that I was not respecting "God's anointed". I could give some examples, but I'll spare the reader.
Reminds me of what Calvinist pastors do to their congregation
You just described in perfect detail the world since March 2020
True!
Spot on!!
Yeah lots of anti-science brainwashing led to millions of deaths. So sad.
Correct
Melissa, in approx. 28 min you did a great job at laying this down. In my witness to our local cult, I've been accused as a purveyor of hate and a "liar". It's sad and fascinating at the same time. Religious cults are ruled spiritually by a fallen entity of the kingdom of darkness. Make no mistake, they are ruled by that kingdom. The puppet is the charismatic/authoritarian human leader. The victims, the serfs, are the congregants who are lured or born into that false, flawed and fatal system. There is another point concerning cults that is notable; the identities of cult members morph into the identity of their fallen spiritual leader. Cult members become an extension of that dark kingdom; all it takes is a little scratching of the surface and it comes out.
I left a small congregation a couple years ago. I only attended a few times. At first everyone was nice and welcoming. Little by little they all turned mean. They all picked on one lady that I really liked because of her spiritual insights. She finally quit going. Then I noticed the pastor was not so nice to me. I was out of there fast.
This reminds me of the Word of Faith movement. I don't think it's a cult, but it has some similar thoughts. The thought control and control of information reminds me of what we believed. Maybe it wasn't communicated directly, but it was inferred. I know people who have a fear of listening to someone who disagrees with their leaders. There is a fear that if they entertain different ideas or beliefs, something bad will happen to them, or they are showing a lack of faith.
YES Word of Faith movement is steeped in this and it is inferred and full of manipulation. One of the WOF pastors tried their it’s my way or no way and I have nothing to do with these people.
Many critics of TWF act like cultists.
All Forms of Religion including Christianity are Cults.
I have learned to question everything. I don’t go along with everyone. It has kept me safe.
@@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql Questions are good. I try to remember to check everything with Scripture.
This is going to be a very odd comment (especially since I'm 28 and you're probably in your 30s) but here we go. Melissa, I wish you could be my mom. I don't currently have a close mom-figure in my life and when I watch your videos, the godliness I see in you just really makes me wish I had someone like you as a mother in my life. May God bless you Melissa.
Seek him. He is the only parent you need. Go to a good church where they have sound doctrine and older people. Let one of them disciple you.
Occult seems too piggyback off each other’s ideas .
Be careful sweetheart! You are in a very vulnerable position if you are looking for a person other than Christ to mentor and nurture you. The Holy Spirit will teach comfort and counsel you. People will always let you down one way or another--Jesus is who you need.
Praying that the Lord will guide you to wonderful women of God who can surround you with love and wisdom! ❤️
@@Jessica_Jones Thank you Jessica, God bless you!
I appreciate this so much! I am an absolute believer in Jesus Christ and I love The Lord. But I can't make myself go to church or to trust church people, and I've always wondered what was wrong with me.
The church I was raised in was exactly how you describe a cult! It was called a Baptist church but all of the elements of a cult were there. We were told the preacher was the mouthpiece of God and anything he said was from God.
It sounds easy to say, "ok then, now you know the truth, so you can be free from all that". But that's not true at all! I am still very much influenced by this spirit of "what if they were right?", and it's scary! I actually have psychological problems from those yrs. I have huge anxiety issues, including horrible panic attacks because of the picture of God that was ingrained in me as a child. And I see church people as smiling as warm to your face, but demonic and scary with evil motives just below the surface.
I wonder sometimes if I'm really saved because it feels like I'm in rebellion to God and the truth because of the things they told me. I remember reading passages like, "whom the son sets free is free indeed" or "you will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on thee", and thinking, "that's not true!!! My mind is constantly on you and it torments me!"
Thank you so much for making this video! I've never heard anybody validate these things. Please pray for me that I can be set free from this evil spirit that is still with me at 60 yrs old!
Thank you in advance,
~Tony Phillips
Hey brother Tony, how are you today?
I will definitely pray for you today.
I find the scripture you pointed out interesting. But first I want to remind you that Jesus gave us power over all our enemies, even over evil spirits. Cast out that evil spirit, and demand it back to where it came from, and command it not return, in the name of Jesus Christ. ( Yes God gives us that power, but we must do it in His name.)
" Perfect peace, who's mind is stayed on Thee. ". The, " Thee ", is Jesus , Jesus is the living word, the Bible, so we need to stay in the word of God if we want that perfect peace.
" Whom the Son sets free, is free indeed" is from John Ch 8:36.
John Ch 8:32 says" and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. ( Jesus is the truth, His word is truth. ) We must meet the condition in the prior verse to be set free by the truth . John Ch 8: 31 Jesus said, " If ye continue in My word, ( the Bible ) then are ye My disciples indeed, "
So to be set free, and have peace of mind, we need not to listen to some man behind a pulpit, nor attend a certain church, or go to church once or twice a week nor attend a certain denomination. But rather we we need to read and study our Heavenly Father's Word so we may have a peace of mind and know what things will befall us tomorrow, and what things will transpire in the future. This is how we are set free.
2 Thess Ch 2:15 -- Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed ( confused ), rightly dividing the word of truth.
I hope and will pray that this scripture will help you out a bit. Have a wonderful day, and our Heavenly Father's blessings to you, and yours.
@@Michael--12 thank you so much for the encouraging words! It is amazing how people can twist scripture into something completely negative and condemning. I have spent most of my life trying to break free from those chains on my mind. It's amazing how strong those ingrained lies are.
I do know the truth now, but I still struggle if I'm in the company of people with those old beliefs. I'm thankful for communities like this where I can come to and knock down those old thoughts and fears with the truth of Jesus Christ.
Thank you again!
The Lord Jesus Christ led me out of the church building a few months ago. What you say resonates with me. Cheers!
I don’t t go to church anymore. Too many have been corrupted by this world.
Have you tried orthodoxy?
First time I'm realizing that a lot of this can be found in plain old abusive situations too. Cults just turn abuse to a group and have a bit more documenting perhaps
Thanks for the videos. You encourage me to open the Bible and study once again. I enjoy learning how to better share the gospel. Big thanks
Watching this brings so much relief! I have been experiencing so much of this in a new town that I moved to where I do not know anyone. Gossip has been a problem and it seems very tribal/territorial. People asked to 'talk' and then I am confronted with the end result of a long telephone game distortion of things that I have 'said'.....it was love bombing, tell us your dirt, and then we create it into something it's not and broadcast a 'reputation' about you..... it is toxic and just like being in an abusive relationship. This behavior is NOT Jesus. I appreciate this video/advice so much, thank you!
Thank you for this shared knowledge. I have been born and raised in the church of Jesus Christ of latter day days. I NEVER considered it a cult. I started reading Isaiah and considered he was talking about our church and poof the spell has been broken. I still consider the BOM a scripture that can stand alone. It really does testify of Christ and actually tells us to read and study the words of Isaiah. That’s why I did.
I had this great desire to look up what cults were. I started by watching the documentary on Scientology. Wow that was eye opening. Ever since I’ve been so curious about how human history and our brains work in those ways.
It’s been so freeing. I still go to church as of now because it’s such a hard transition when it’s habit and community. My son is committed to another year on a mission but I pray he will meet someone like you to help him see clearly. He knows how I feel. God is working on my husband. ❤️
Pray for us friends in Christ. 🙏🏼 ✝️
I pray you have the courage and conviction to walk away and find a church that teaches God’s truth alone (not man’s ideas). Ask God to show you where to go.
Came here to offer support. I was also LDS for my whole life, until God opened my eyes and showed me the truth. It's interesting how much more meaningful scripture becomes when read without any preconceived ideas, or the need to read it through the perspective of your current religion.
God is good, and he's going to help your husband, just like he helped me and my family. I'll pray for you both.
Thank you for this sis ❤ I love that you still made this video despite your "weird mood". Your humor and realness is a gem, lol.
Researching MKULTRA's Project Monarch in 2020 is literally what led me to Christ.
🤌🏻✨️
Blessings 💛
That's fascinating. I will have to check out that project. Sounds like you have a story of your own to tell?
Molly I can relate! Discovering the truth about 9/11, freemasonry, flat earth, etc was instrumental in galvanizing my faith in the Bible being the truth of God.
@Matthew-307 Yes (and same) to all of that! Every single rabbit hole I went down ended up funneling into one thing: Luciferianism. Blew my mind, all the hidden in plain sight stuff! Thank you for sharing, brother. It's quite a wild ride to learn about those things. 😊
Blessings!
@marysmith861 Oh, absolutely; there's quite a lot I have to say. 😅 I've been considering writing a book after having it be suggested to me over the years by enough people -- friends & strangers. Jesus at the center, though! 💛 I've got some things to say about that beautiful man who saved my life (literally with a visitation).
Blessings to you! 🫂
@anotherperspective8263 Its ties with the CIA and Hollywood (filled to the brim with freemasonry & occultism) have literally everything to do with Christianity, or rather, actively bastardizing everything Christianity. I found the specificity of that to be interesting. So, I sought Yeshua, and now I'm here. 😊 I'm also glad I know my enemy from many angles. It's been helpful in growing discernment.
Loved this!! Also wanted to say a massive thank you on your video series on the Jehovah Witnesses. You helped me realize how our call to love our neighbors, looks also like studying more into cults because love rejoices in truth. So now I’ve been far more equipped to love my jehovah witness door knockers and invite them in to become friends and share the truth in love. Also your recommendation for the book ‘Tactics’ by Greg Koukl, I’m super grateful- that’s also been a fantastic tool to have when witnessing!
… I’ve also learnt unfortunately, no matter how gently when can share the truth in love, it doesn’t mean we will be treated the same. Unfortunately my last Jehovah Witness friends that came to teach me their bible study reacted negatively, but I pray a seed has been planted and a pebble in their shoe has been placed! It’s great knowing that’s our only job, the Holy Spirit does the rest!
I was in a Charismatic, Pentecostal false prophet cult. That started out as a innocent intercessory prayer group.
But eventually centered around the individual Mark Vanderstoep as being the. 'New Modern Moses" of a" New Move of God ". Based on sinless perfection.
In fact the cult is called" The GROUP ". It is currently in the Arvada Colorado area.
It is not a isolated group. But a common cancer in Charismatic Churches. Particularly the Mega Churches. Ie. Churches within the church . Small churches in the pews of Mega Churches.
She is talking exactly what I went through for 10 years. I got out, but ended up in 1988. A whole year in the mental hospital. Suffering from schziophrenia.
God eventually healed and restored me to sanity in late January, or early February 1989.
Very lovely unpacking of the devil's attempt to choke the vulnerables in life. Many greetings from a small village in Indonesia. I am a hardcore Christian. Thanks God for helping me acquiring the English language up till this stage.
Melissa, your approach, tone and temperament is outstanding. What your channel produces is stellar, I'm certain the Lord's grace is in the work of your hands.
Awesome!
I love that you called out the father of LIES for what it is. Also that without God, there is no objective standard for truth. This is the state of so many all around us.
Thank you, Melissa. God bless you.
I remember reading "The Mind Benders" by Sparks. At the time the Mooniescwere were Everywhere and even tried to infiltrate our Church. The Berean Call was really helpful too. I can see where Dave Hunt helped to prepare me to recognize NAR teaching. "Study to show yourselves approved"
You are are one of the rare lights of the world that God has blessed to be here these last 7 years.
You've just answered a question that I had for a long time.
'Why does every extremist form of government forbidds christianity?'
Because mind control doesn't work when you stay in Gods word❤
The N a z i ‘s in control of Germany recruited from non-religiously-affiliated nurses because they were easier to convince to assist in euthanasia and “medical experiments” on non consenting people
Amen sister!!!
You just described many Christian well established churches and those in it do not see they are being controlled until they are out of it. Your voice is refreshing. Always keep seeking.
My son is currently going through being indoctrinated and we are desperately trying to get him away. There multiple other factors at play but your video was 🤯🤯
That is exactly what has happened to him. Ty! I’m going to have to refer to this video a lot. We are in the war to save our 15yo son. Pray for us please. Many Blessings
Praying. God bless you and keep you
Prayed a small prayer for you and your son
Invited to think critically I want to point out a logical error you make in the end. The fact that separate cults share the same BITE characteristics does not mean there is some underlying behind the scenes coordination going on. It merely implies that for a cult to be successful it has to do these things right. The other ones just don't make it. It's like evolution. Also the BITE model is derived from studying successful cults. Not the other way around. So naturally they all share those features.
Thank you for this otherwise very clear and enlightening video. It's very important to be aware of this because it is rampant in society today. Very much so in the political realm rather than the religious.
And as an unnecessary, possibly unwanted, yet totally sincere compliment I wish to say that I find you a stunningly beautiful woman.
A muslim asked me queations about adam and jesus and this sent me down my journey into apologetics. ❤
Great video! Thank you for sharing as this is a major problem in the local Churches. Really think people should wake up to this deceptive control and play on one's emotions.😊
There are a lot of mind games played with tithing in churches that preach on it. One way to prevent this is to reject the Sermon as a normative weekly practice because it doesn't let the brethren treat each other as equals. Jesus said 'let no call you rabbi, for there is one teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren' .
I'm not necessarily calling churches that preach tithing in an unhealthy ways cults, but it's not healthy and does make abuse quite possible. Hmmm...
@@anotherperspective8263 Of the ceremony? Of the building? Of leadership? As long as we don't weave the building and leadership into doctrine in ways that are not warranted by the Bible, it's fine, but the more different sects attempt to do this, the more they create confusion, division, and, far too often, a means of abuse.
So I can understand your perspective, is a church building a Malachi storehouse from your vantage point? Are tithes required OR should they be strongly 'recommended' to believers as a 'principle' outside the law (or that existed before the law)?
Do you or does leadership in your church typically conflate firstfruits and tithing? Does your church typically categorize all works of service and all acts of adulation under the umbrella of 'worship'.
These are common errors of church leaders seeking to justify their authority and mode of collecting revenue.
And it would be really nice to receive a response on some of the particular questions instead of a redirect. Few people that I discuss these issues with seem to want to answer these questions. Unfortunately, I can only assume that to be a tacit admission that their church does engage in these perspectives. Either that or it's a 'see no, evil, hear no evil' response that they have not heard of that being done anywhere - what am I talking about. (gaslighting)
@anotherperspective8263 Of the ceremony? Of the building? Of leadership? As long as we don't weave the building and leadership into doctrine in ways that are not warranted by the Bible, it's fine, but the more different sects attempt to do this, the more they create confusion, division, and, far too often, a means of abuse.
So I can understand your perspective, is a church building a Malachi storehouse from your vantage point? Are tithes required OR should they be strongly 'recommended' to believers as a 'principle' outside the law (or that existed before the law)?
Do you or does leadership in your church typically conflate firstfruits and tithing? Does your church typically categorize all works of service and all acts of adulation under the umbrella of 'worship'.
These are common errors of church leaders seeking to justify their authority and mode of collecting revenue.
And it would be really nice to receive a response on some of the particular questions instead of a redirect. Few people that I discuss these issues with seem to want to answer these questions. Unfortunately, I can only assume that to be a tacit admission that their church does engage in these perspectives. Either that or it's a 'see no, evil, hear no evil' response that they have not heard of that being done anywhere - as in - what am I even talking about? (gaslighting)
@@anotherperspective8263 I had to clipboard my responses. See above.
@@anotherperspective8263 Please see my reply above.
Melissa! I love your videos!
Your videos and others convicted me that I didn’t know the Bible very well.
Over the past 5 years+ I’ve been working to change that. Thank-you!
Been on this earth for 71 years. Have seen and been threw alot. But this is the clearest on this subjective heard in a long time. Well done. God bless.
The truth doesn't mind being questioned, it's the lie that hates being challenged.
@@ElGatoVato768 you can assume it's my religion, but I didn't create it and ahh.. what makes you think I follow it?
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING FOR 2 YEARS NOW. THANK YOU.
Only two?
My oldest friend is mormon and things have gotten to the point that I will no longer discuss our differences because she refuses to look at anything other than the way her leaders allow.
My mom was like this. She was Mormon. I did not discuss religion with her. She hated that I was born again. She could see that I was different. But, one night I went to visit her and she gave her life to Jesus. Keep praying for your friend. Let your light shine! She already knows and fighting the truth. God knows how to humble her.
I've just subscribed. This video did it for me in so many ways, relating to myself raised in Mormimism. Brilliant! Facts.
Being someone who did in fact grow up in a cult(the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement) this video was very interesting
Thank you Melissa! I have learned so much about cults and narcissists from my own experience of them. I’ve learned cult behaviour goes across all controlling, manipulative, bullying people, whether the cult of one, to work places and groups. I am now seeking to understand God’s perspective in his word. I need to know how to protect myself from these people, who are everywhere!
What an amazing episode. This is such a powerful video it must be viewed by more people. I got your 'koolaid in the fridge' (@2:46) reference. You actually know what you are talking about. Amazing information!
Trans/queer theory is the prime example of this - question or disagree in anyway and they will try and destroy your life/career
A narcissist with a basic understanding of gnosticism can start a cult with very little effort. They are extremely adept at gaslighting and use people's empathy against them.
Yes, they use our hearts against us.
For sure NPDs are a cult unto themselves…
I was under really heavy conviction for 2 years. When a couple jehovah's witnesses approached me.
I was really impressed that they were quoting so much bible since I was almost totally Ignorant of it.
But I quickly told them, " no thanks i'm catholic"
And shortly after that I got born again! JULY 4th 1986.
I still haven't gotten over it!
Good presentation. I was once in a small town (more churches than people) and if you asked one person about another's congregation the answer was "That's a cult." You could walk down the street, ask and get for the next one "cult, cult, cult ... ." People need to know what to be cautionary. Moreso they need to follow the legitimate Biblical translations, and more-so have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ and a baptism of His Holy Spirit. It's that simple. No, I am not starting a cult.
Some fantastic thoughts here! My first thought is that it is very difficult to find any religion that really welcomes or even tolerates critical thinking. Mostly because the leaders are human and humans have egos. No one really wants to be questioned or challenged. Also, to your point I'll quote Scott Peck (of The Road Less Traveled) "there is no such thing as a good hand-me down religion" I hear this as - you have to find it for yourself. 🙂
Have you read Peck's additional book,
People of the Lie, too? It is quite interesting, if you like to read.
So much of this sounds like what it was like for me in the Hebrew Roots movement.
Yeah I was in the Way International and they were definitely a cult. Depending on what part of Hebrew roots you were in, there was an overlap with The Way and your movement from someone who left the Way and helped begin part of Hebrew Roots
23:00 that is uniform and properly following the contract you signed. that is integrity and honesty... not forced compliance where YOU *can't* leave.
23:25 that's self-inflicted anxiety and not by the group and thus not cult-like behavior. that is what needs to be isolated... not that you are in a cult cause of your actions. but the groups response to critical thinking, doubt, or any other form of wavering. if they attack and don't apologize later and make proper amends... you are in a bad relationship. if you have them then tell you to better fit their mold... it is a cult if they hold you hostage.
Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
I think you’re spot-on with everything you’ve said here, Melissa! 🎯💯 Something that I also have noticed recently is that many of these kinds of tactics are being implemented in mainstream conservative evangelical churches as well which is disturbing. We have so many Christians who are frankly just lazy in reading & studying their Bibles, & it’s easier for them to just take the word of their leaders as correct, trustworthy, & Biblical, but even lifelong Christians can be sucked into New Thought & New Age practices because the enemy is subtle, inserting just enough “truth-sounding” into devotional books & “Bible studies” to sound legit & lead people down a wrong path. If those who are aware of these things even dare to mention the dangers or even question, they are often labeled as troublemakers or somehow “less spiritual”, or a conspiracy theorist, or viewed as trying to be a “know-it-all” because certainly these “leaders” know better & are more spiritually mature, etc. It’s almost as if someone’s position in the church makes them automatically infallible in the eyes of the congregation, but if things don’t match up against the standard of the Word, we are to discard it. In the meantime, these leaders end-up leading people down the same wrong path with them because Christians aren’t guarding their own hearts & testing things against the Word in these last days. One area I’ve noticed that is really taking root is all of these people reading the writings of “the desert fathers” & other mystics such as St. Teresa of Avila, Brother Lawrence , St.John of the cross, etc., to be taken as an example from which to model one’s Christian walk. Would you perhaps be able to do a video on this topic of mysticism being embraced in evangelical churches? I think most Christians are unaware of how these false teachings are infiltrating the church & are tied-in with New Thought/New Age/gnosticism/experiential belief over the truth of scripture & Christ alone. Thanks for your consideration for content.💜✝️
Thank you for your comment. I do feel the same. Mystical marriage of St. Avila is so dangerous.
@@NiviWord , indeed! I appreciate your encouraging reply, as it’s always good to know one isn’t alone in these thoughts & concerns. 😇✝️
@@scotzmnswife Yeah but I also feel that we should pray for our leaders because its a really hard job and people have so many expectations from them. I have seen some of the youths really getting impatient with the pastor for not satisfactorily answering their queries. I know from my own experience as to how difficult it is to satisfactorily answer some of the theological questions on the spot.
The young pastors especially need prayers and support from the others in the church who are more mature in age and experience. Unity is so much important in the body of Christ. Getting offended is so easy but it creates so much disharmony and pain. Love covers a multitude of sins which should be the bottomline of every ministry to grow successfully. No pastor is perfect and no congregation too. So we all need each other to cover others imperfections.
Great, this has been exactly my experience. Was an active member of a church for years, until they started consistently preaching about authority, and when they called me out for following my beliefs and critical thinking, I said that's it, goodbye
My son and his family are in a scripture twisting , new revelation, positive speaking only, emotion provoking, keep you busy 4 nights a week at church, live concert like events , type church.they tell them they are leaders, put in leadership roles, told they have a purpose to fulfill for God, tithe, and give generously , and let’s plant more churches. I think it’s an arc church. The sermons usually have 2 scr. Ref. Taken out of context and twisted or allegorized to mean something different. And everybody thinks it’s just great revelation. Group activity, sense of belonging, ego stroking.
Carrot dangling promises such as your breakthrough is coming, God is preparing us for a miracle this year, we are on the cutting edge of the next great move of God, etc.
My husband has always been skeptical and not fully embracing of any pastor or denomination. He has been wise.
I love the verse where God invites, "Come, let us reason together..." We need to think biblically, as Mike Winger says. Well done.
Wow ! I have been learning so much from you. Thank you for all of your hard work on getting your videos out for us. ❤🙏❤
There’s a ministry called Discovering Mercy that deals with TBMC (trauma based mind control) and replaces it with the truth of God’s Word.
Listened to “Fern and Audrey” on Dr. Heiser’s podcast episodes. Super thankful for them.
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I understand a lot now after you uncovered a lot I have been experiencing. If a person stays blinded and never understands any of this, then they stay as the person that has been manipulated and control and becomes a manipulator and a controller
I Agree! And I learned SO MUCH from this ONE ep. Thank you Mrs. Dougherty.
i m a victim of cult mind control and lived a life a long while after they damage my self reliance and self soverignty. . I want to watch this thoroughly thanks so much
You are an awesome apologist! You and Mike Winger are my favorite to listen too. Thank you for sharing!
Critical thinking is not the enemy!
It's the key
As a former Mormon, I read anti-mormon literature (also known as valid history)
Listening to this I find many groups on RUclips like this. They have a platform and if you don’t agree with them or did something or say something they suddenly shun you. It’s incredible. Their members are incredibly mean to people coming into their chat with differing views. Total mind manipulation
Yeah, we don't even have to be there in person for this to happen. It's happening through our thoughts and minds as we interact with each other.
Great video! I know the Muslim faith discourages questioning the Quran or the Mullah. They are just to accept what they’re told. One trait I see in Christianity is to question. There have been been countless examples of people questioning in search of truth and they find Jesus!
I got pulled into a cult. The church of Wells in Texas. I have up everything to go there. When i questioned the leader i was banished and went into a severe depression. They whispered to me i had taken the mark. In the end it was blessing. I was so dismayed that i turned to God and he answered me. ❤
You’re absolutely correct. When I was growing up as a JW they used the phrase “ independent thinking” . Just that phrase would scare any good JW.
Great stuff! I agree with every word. The enemy does not care if he has to push or pull as long as you wind up in the ditch or broke down.
You just described my independent fundamentalist upbringing.
That is sad. The founders of fundamentalism were scholars, such as James Ore. They were against the liberals view which made the Bible just a human book and just a collection of myths and legends. I have met some of which you talk, in fact, I did not want to admit I was a fundamentalist.
Former Mormon here.
Thanks Melissa! This is ALL true!!💔
Mind control is crazy. When I was 18yo I got hypnotised to give money…. (Lost $50) And then… poof… as he walked off, I woke up.. and realised what happened.. could not find the guy. Crazy… never again.
I was part if one. It was called the Potters House. Founded by Waymen Mitchell which his son Greg Mitchell is now the head of that fellowship. I was there from 13 till I was 27 I am now 40. It took me years to renew my mind. What I found tho even in your charismatic churches may not be full blown occult but have bad theology. Such as you believe you are healed but if you aren't fully healed that's on you which I believeis word of faith doctrine. It took me years to get out of that thinking. I was diagnosed with major depressive disorder. And it was my fault I wasn't healed. But I began ti understand the depression came from alot of the abuse within this occult I came out of then further wounding came through word of faith movement. Crazy times. It's a mind flip. LOL. I research alot now and I have more maturity and decernment over some of these ways.