Cult-Like Behavior in Extreme Trump Followers
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- In a recent article on The Daily Beast, Dr. Steven Hassan refers to the cult leaders’ “playbook” and lists some of the mind-control strategies employed by former President Donald Trump: These include his grandiose claims, his practice of sowing confusion, his demand for absolute loyalty, his tendency to lie and create alternative "facts" and realities, his shunning and belittling of critics and ex-believers, and his cultivating an "us versus them" mindset. Of all these tactics, the "us versus them" mindset is probably one of the most effective. He says that from the moment you are recruited into a cult, you are made to feel special, part of an "inside" group in opposition to unenlightened, unbelieving, dangerous "outsiders."
Join us for an intriguing talk with Dr. Hassan on cult-like behavior in the political world.
Steven Hassan, Ph.D., is a mental health professional who has been helping people leave destructive cults since 1976 after he was deprogrammed from Sun Myung Moon’s Unification Church. He is the author of four books Combating Cult Mind Control: The Guide to Protection, Rescue, and Recovery from Destructive Cults; Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves; Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Thoughts & Beliefs; and The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control.
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MARCH 30, 2021
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A good portion of my family has been lost to The Cult of Tr*mp. I was shocked when I went to my parent's house to visit. Every single room had Tr*mp merchandise- from the throw blanket on their bed to the coffee cups they drink out of to the pens they write with. My parents have voted in every election but they have never ever had one single sticker from a politician. My Dad used to tell me "We are not 'fans' but rather constituents who vote them in and vote them out. " It is disturbing how they have changed, not only their ideas but the way they perform those ideas. In many ways, they are indoctrinating themselves by filling every room with Tr*mp gear and only watching one "news" station. Even if they did change their minds, they would have to throw away boxes of Tr*mp items that they invested capital in. That alone makes it difficult.
At this point, the only way I can have a relationship with them is to act as if they are sick. It helps me maintain empathy as well as my distance. I do my best to steer the conversation away from politics but it is almost as if they have nothing else to talk about. Tr*mp Thinking has perforated all aspects of their lives and by extension mine. I am thankful and simultaneously heartbroken about living in another state. I did not visit this year. I couldn't justify spending the money and my children did not want to go which is upsetting because I want them to want to share time with their grandparents. But I understand. The energy in their house is tense and stressful plus they tie every conversation to politics which isn't something preteens and teens want to talk about all the time. They refused to come to their oldest grandson's graduation OR Eagle Scout ceremony because we live in Portland, OR and they refuse to spend money in a liberal city. My son was heartbroken and upset because afterward my Dad asked him to come to his property this summer to help him work. My son declined.
Sad for families and worse for our country. Thank you to everyone on this thread for sharing and listening. It is weirdly like therapy. ♥
Maybe take the whole family on a cruise, if you can afford it, to get them away from their mileu and reinforce family love and normalcy over Tp belief system.
Your story shows how this poison works.
In my opinion cultism is comparable to alcoholism.
And I understand your fear about the negative energies this poison is spreading.
It may hurt - but I would say distance is needed to stay healthy.
I’m sorry for you, it’s a dilemma.You are more compassionate and tolerant than me. My family all support him. We aren’t close, anyway but it was really the last straw for me. and it’s not that we have a difference of “opinions” or “politics” that I cut ties. It’s a difference in “Morality and ethics”. That kind of thinking causes great suffering and it’s life threatening for my friends who are LGBTQ, Muslim, Hispanic, Black, women, children, veterans, and everyone he demonizes and insults so people can blame them for their problems. My relatives claim they aren’t “political”, they don’t seek personal growth or learning, and they just vote Republican down the line and consider themselves “conservative”. Hate crimes have gone off the charts, along with guN VIoLeNCe. I have to wonder if these Republicans ever consider the future for our children and grandchildren. I just don’t have the tolerance for “willful ignorance” and I can’t have my kids around the toxicity and racism they promote. You may not be into “politics” but politics is into you and every aspect of your life so vote smart, because especially now, our lives depend on it. I consider us on tHE brink of “facism”. If you watch Hitler rallies, people loved and adored him, and swooned over him at his rallies, even turning in their friends and neighbors, sentencing them to death. I cried all night after the eLectioN. His supporters mock “liberal tears” and find it amusing its a bully mentality and he’s brought out the worst in humanity. He’s a corrupt, toxic, lying, self serving, repulsive, pussygrabbing, fascist, traitorous, threat to our national security, the country and the world. I’m so astounded 70 million voted for him twice, it’s made me lose faith in the citizens of this nation. We may never fully recover from the damages and carnage he’s inflicted. It’s tragic. and those classified documents are still at his REsORT! We officially entered the twilight zone when he walked down that escalator.HE belongs in prison.
So sorry for your loss.
Just because your parents are acting this way has nothing to do with Trump. Perhaps they really believe he was a better president. Do you really not see how so many people are totally filled with hate because they voted for Trump and not a Democrat candidate. I would be concerned if my parents were letting anybody anybody come between them and my family. There are plenty of people on both sides of the political parties who are not acting rationally these days. But there are also very stable people on both sides. I have had people just be so hateful towards me because I have chosen not to take the mRNA vaccine. And I am not. republican. Now I found out that the FDA has posted their research about how the vaccine causes heart issues(clots). So many people are getting these horrible side effects. And this man is very biased. Trump was not impeached because it was found that the evidence they put out there was false. And we do have almost 10 million illegal immigrants coming through out southern border who are now homeless. Some are trafficking children and some are bringing in fentanyl. This man really is focused on anything bad about Trump and not even looking at anything positive. Biden also has his issues. But this is an old clip so I will just say…do not give up on your parents. Your support and love is what will give them peace.
After watching this segment, I no longer despise Trump supporters, I actually feel bad for them and pray they get the help they need before it's too late.
maybe we can utilize a conversation technique “how to talk to a trumpite and end their litany of delusions”
@@wigglypawit’s very difficult and heart breaking - all reasoning has been destroyed by the kool aid. Even showing evidence - anyone in 45’s administration is either in jail or have quit. Doesn’t matter. I distance myself and don’t engage with them.
Hardcore culties NEVER think they're in a cult.
Most true quote I've ever seen
True
Thats a big BINGO right there
Idk..Are you in a Cult?
@@OneSeasonMan You just provided a perfect example of what Elizabeth Henning was talking about. You're locked in a cult and can't see it for what it is.
And I am horrified that my beautiful, intelligent 45 year old niece is totally all into QAnon and actually told her mom to F--koff and she is on the wrong side of history!?!?😱🤯
I am her gay Aunt and her stepsister is married to a blackman and my niece has 3 nieces and a nephew who are mixed race! I was raised in the south and I know for a fact what rascism sounds like and sounds like and have witness it and republicans are racist, --- and yet --- she thinks Trump is great, Q is real, she betrays us all and she curses her mother! But I know she loves us - this folks, is what civil war is! And someone out there is confusing our family members into treason!
OMG!😢😢😡😠🤬💔
I hate the monsters who divide us!
This is a concentrated effort to destroy our society as we know it!
I'm not in for it😡
I'm p-ssed that they are hurting my family!
I'm p-ssed that they are trying to destroy democracy!
I'm enraged at their lies!
I'm done with them!
It is so scary how even people in other countries like Canada 🇨🇦 have been culted. Family and friends that seem to have gone down the worst path of misinformation they could. It’s so frustrating and sad that they seem so afraid that they do this. DJT is dangerous and needs to be removed.
Here's what I don't understand about this cult mindset in general but about Trumpists in particular;
These people are all aware of the laws in this country, as well as the basic social norms and expectations that apply to all of us, and that, as Americans, we all agree to follow and operate under.
My question is, how is it that people who, just yesterday, were living by these rules and norms and were condemning dishonesty, unlawful activity, defrauding people, speaking ill of others, physical violence, racist acts, Russian ideology, etc.. can wake up today and not only be suddenly okay with all of those things but (as with the insurrectionists, for example), also be perfectly willing to actively engage in those very activities?
At what point do they take a step back and say, "Wait a minute.. this has never been okay with me. What am I DOING?"
Or do they just deal with the dissonance and carry on against the principles, judgement and behaviours by which they have lived their entire lives, up until that moment?
Perhaps they only pretended to care about values to get elected. They obviously don't care now. They complain about Communists but then think Trumps relationship with Putin was OK?
I have the same questions as OP. I just commented under another comment that the people I know who have fallen into this category used to be very morally and ethically sound in my opinion and now they spew nothing but racism and just hatred and divisiveness in general. I don’t get it, and I’m certainly glad that I haven’t been caught up in it. Completely nuts.
@@jandunn169 Well, the politicians are obvious hypocrites, right out in the open like, every single day, so I expect it of them but I mean just regular people, who Ive personally known and who don't have a political agenda.
thanks--it may not seem like it, but something like this epidemic of Trumpism doesn't just culminate in a few years or weeks. i just said last week in a post that i was a teen in the early 1980s, and that was when a change of attitude for the worse began. there were various factors, however, David Icke tried to get through to people for over 30 years that it has all been orchestrated and it's why JFK was assasinated in 1964. things have gotten worse and worse since then, right? however, they banned Icke from his YT channel in spring 2020 mainly because he has known the technocrat cult's plans more than anyone and Trump has been one of the paid actors of it. about the first thing he said after banned was, "they are under their spell now, meaning all those who have also been sucked into believing the covid madness, which was the latest attempt at what's been known as Agenda 21. the masks were just to dehumanize us further, so, Trump was just another faze in the agenda effort, and obviously in the last two years it's clear many have been under a very trance-like state, and part of the reason has been even trying trying to change brain neurons--what else can we expect when some have been foolish enough to let someone put a microchip in their hand? in other words, the Bible does actually predict all this was coming, but you need people who know how to interpret it properly. i'm not evangelic, but i was at an anti-vaxxer rally last summer and one evangelical guy told me part of about the 'demonic influence' can be found in the ENOCH section. just saying, however, maybe look for one of David icke's most important books called something like: "Everything you wanted to know but where never told. he's gone on to knew themes now but has over 20 books written about the technocrat cult.
My understanding is they believe they are protecting the country from left-wing Marxism and lies perpetuating evil. For example if the election was rigged then it was an illegal election and their actions are justified. Beyond that I don't know how they can excuse it but they do
Excellent, blessings, and thank you SO much! People like Hassan have probably taken years off of my own "mental archaeology" and trying to figure out why I was raised the way I was.
I worked with Steve to get my son out of a high control religion about 4 years ago. Unfortunately all efforts failed and I don't blame him. What I have come to understand is that "undue influence" is as old as humans are, every bit as evolved and complex. This is not a fun topic but a very real and insidious one. These topics should be front page news and in every school curriculum.
thanks--well the problem is that Trump and most of them have owned the mainstream media, and it's also why the covid madness began two years ago, and David Icke tried to get through to people for over 30 years about it until they banned him from his YT channel in spring 2020. he has said the internet itself is a scam, which is in part what Bill Gates role has been about--they are all part of a Zionist Billionaire club these days that has had an agenda for us. so, right now it's very hard to say where it's all going, however, it is just as foolish or worse to trust Musk who wants to buy up and screw around with the internet more, which again is just more deception and control games. anything needs to be owned and controlled by the people instead of what is a cult in itself.
I'm so sorry. That is heartbreaking.
Welcome to *_Group_* Narcissism, where *"I'm* Special", becomes "WE'RE SPECIAL!"
Oh, and we *_like_* the Great Leader's 'grandiosity'... 'cuz it shows he's one of us!
So true...
All the narcissists now think…we CAN do anything we want, like our dear orange leader does …Even if it’s breaking the law
Cause we’re special 🤣🙄🤪
NO NO NO NO you’re just breaking the law & acting like very angry teenagers !!!
@@catherinedonnelly1025 Now that they're being held accountable in court, there was a recent newsclip about one of these yahoos responding to a judge's ruling with a tantrum, hollering over and over, "But that's unfair, it's not Fair ...!" ;-p
yes, exactly; typical Davidian type cult leader tactics.
Catherine D.,
Angry teenagers?
Tantruming toddlers, more like.
When Steven Hassan talks, I take notes. Always enlightening! Thank you for this video!
Michael,
Most of what he says is not false -- though a good deal of it is just tossing around silly slogans, "psychopath," "programmed" and so on.
To call Steven Hassan a half-wit would be unfair to the good and useful number 0.5.
He was a fool when he was young, and doesn't appear any smarter since he has learned to repeat ordinarily acceptable formulas.
Forget Hassan -- but his teacher Margaret Singer is sound, as well as being a good deal brighter than him.
I lost my best friend of 46 years. She was the closest thing to a sibling I had. trumpism took her soul.
How?
Very sad.
Pray for her and so will I.
She is a very smart woman, perhaps it would do you well to follow her.
Follow her where?
I was one of the people who got hacked by Cambridge Analytica and I still get angry when I wonder what they did with my data once the election was over. I had no intention of voting for Trump and I didn't. I have a bad habit of researching candidates before voting and I didn't like what I learned about Trump's character any more than I liked the bigoted words coming out of his mouth. He also appeared too authoritarian for my taste.
It's so great to hear you informed yourself before voting. Puts my faith back in the democratic process. Learning about companies like Cambridge Analytica is pretty scary; unfortunately them closing up means nothing seeing there is no real regulation limiting future companies from dealing with your data which, it turns out, is of incalculable value.
Unfortunately your information sources are biased and one sided. There is information that exists about Biden and Harris that you are not aware of. Unfortunately you were very much targete d by m sm and you don't know what you don't know
Lol, sure thing buddy. That's the projection the gentleman in the video was telling us about
@osuillibhan Facebook was finally required to notify every one of the over a hundred and fifty million people who got hacked because they allowed it.
@@OneSeasonMan most don't love Biden, they just can't stand Trump. They dont worship Biden blindly like Trumpers do with Trump
I would love to have Mary trump nominated for a Nobel prize. It would destroy donny
Lol. I'm for it. She was warning us.
Maybe when trump said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any supporters. They should have asked themselves what's wrong with that statement of judgement he put on all of them? The first and last time he told the truth.
I am the only one in my family that seen right through Trump and his merry band of narcissist. The thought of being kind and understanding to Trump supporters after this is unfathomable. They have been mean, disrespectful, prejudice and ugly... "Lord Trump" is all that matters. Grrr I don't know if I can help them, they need to figure it out alone because I'm done.
Im in the same situation 😩😩😩 It’s my husband of 21 yrs and he’s so into this Q/Trump cult that he watches newsmax and fox and there’s a guy you can check out, truth and arts tv 🤢🤮 the host, Bernie was banned from Twitter and my husband subscribed to his website and pays to listen to that shit!! I am now a communist evil cabal open borders demon. I wish I could leave but don’t have the means. Had a great marriage before. Not even my kids talk to him. ❤️
When I ask my Lord who will be President,l heard Trump,l ask why, he said He will steal to get in the corrupt (Trump) will stir up the corrupt, I knew right off he was sick and corrupt,l have lost friends too,The Church has lost it place, Jesus said my sheep are easily led ,they can be lead right off a cliff,Trump is not going to let the church rule,if he is Dictator,they will pay taxes because he wants money, Fools are born every day
@@ariesmorrison123 what a terrible situation for you and your children to be in. I feel so sorry for you.
@@annacalvert2747 I believe he will return in 2024 and is quite possibly the Anti-christ the Bible warns about. Trying to wake my family up to it too.
i understand how you feel. i forgave a friend of mine, but she still minimizes what happened on January 6th. Her beliefs seem to matter more to her than Democracy. My hope is that we do not allow unsavory people to run for President ever again. Walmart probably has more qualifications for a minimum wage job than we do for president.
I have tried with a friend and some in my family who refuse to discuss many subjects. So I am seeing it takes great skill and patience to ask the right questions. it scares me when my Jewish friends and family embrace a leader like Trump with malignant narcissism because my ancestors disappeared in Kiev when the Nazis invaded Ukraine.
thanks Jan--i don't know if it helps you, but i've had one revelation in the last two years were one doesn't have to be Jewish to belong to the Zionist club, which is why Trump had been bailed out of so-called debt about four years ago by Soros and Rothschild Inc. if you look at it from when during WWI were Rothschild Inc were aloud to by up most of the Palestine land(Balfour Declaration), then we can see how there were the first 'Zionist soldiers' like Prescott Bush who was funding a well known Hitler funder who was in Europe then (Fitz Tyson), who had big money in banks and steel. i have no question Rothschild did it to secure the Zionist base which set off the warring 20th century. we traced that spelling of Rothschild which originates from Germany, so the other one without the s would be legitimate we guess. David Icke knows more about them than anyone probably, and it was the real reason he was banned from his YT channel in spring 2020. just something i've rarely mentioned to anyone--i was lied to about much by my parents, and one of them was about my Grandmother's maiden name that was Goldstone and i was always made to believe it was strictly an English name.
This type of work is necessary. Thanks to the forum and guest.
What a brave and honest man.
I wish every Trump supporter would listen to this.
Wouldnt matter, they would be in denial… they don’t see it
That's a no brainer .
It probably wouldn’t be well received if the entrenchment is great
Glad I found this presentation. It requires the kind of in-depth reasoning which Trumpians and other cultists generally avoid.
They don't care, wouldn't change one!!
AG Merrick Garland, current Nat'l Security officials: This presentation should be required listening for you to fulfill your duties appropriately.
As predicted, you are missing the point.
@@ministryoftruth8523 I don't understand what you mean. I'm very serious. I would like know. Thank you.
Yes, Holly!
Predicted? I think you're in the wrong place. This isnt a q anon group
Of course this has about a 12% downvote rate. It can be a hard truth to swallow, I get it guys.
Anyways, thanks for your work Dr. Hassan, this was clear, to the point and I feel like I’ve learned a lot.
I'm glad to hear it has high downvotes. Where I am, the number of downloads is not shown.
If it has a high downvote rate it would be because this is a very shoddy pair of appearances on a very serious topic.
Both O'Reilly and Hassan are mediocrities, quite out of their depth dealing with any serious cultural, political, or social issue. Hassan is incapable of serious analysis; he simply tells popular horror stories. Fed!
The usually very good Commonwealth Club should take both of them off its list of possible contributors.
Dr. Hassan, you dimbulb, Barack Obama was not born in the United States.
FWIW, former President Obama was born in the Hawaii Territory. This is not part of the Americas and was not at the time of his birth a state within the United States of America. The United States grew to engulf Mr. Obama's birthplace, if you like.
These are subtle ideas, that the Americas are a geographical area, the United States a political unit, and Mr. Obama is a "natural born citizen" of the United States, as required by Article II of the Constitution.
I am sure that the learned Doctor Hassan could understand them one at a time; he is apparently unaware of them, or if he knows about them it is beyond him to understand their relevance.
@@TheDavidlloydjones Lol Obama was born almost 2 years after Hawaii gained statehood.
I suppose you had nothing to say a when a Panamanian or a Canadian ran in the primaries for president.
And zilch when a Brazilian criminal ran for Congress@@robvlob
I had to look up Moon being crowned in the Dirksen Senate building. Holy crap, that’s disturbing.
Steven Hassan has done recent interviews on Narativ TV channel that are well worth a watch, also see their show from last week exposing Michael Flynn with Jim Stewartson.
One of the most interesting remarks from Steven Hassan is that it only took 5 days for him to be (professionally) deprogrammed from the cult.
yes, it's exactly what Trump is about.
The elephant in the room needed to be mentioned here is fear...on both sides and lack of love for self and each other.
Very informative, Dr Hassan. Thank you!
My family support him and now as he hast 4 indictments they still like him and I’m crushed that they do not see the emperor has no plan but for himself. I thought my family was smarter then this. I still struggle. I can’t be around them.
Wow! Every American should watch this. It could save the world. Serious as a heart attack!
The people that need to watch this the most are those least likely to watch it.
If you can't see all the biased bs claims in this and that you can claim that both sides are under the guise of being brainwashed
well they don't because they're too mind screwed by the the mainstream media lies, and it was why the covid madness began as well as 9/11 20 years ago. that's what Trump and most of them have been about--mind screwing the public to their own agenda.
I had thought that the people drawn to figures like Trump and Sean Hannity are like the kids that are feeling loved by Barney watching the Barney show. I remember my then two-year-old son confiding in my one day that "Barney loves his kids" which explained to me how little ones are drawn to Barney, the big purple dinosaur. For adults, I can better define this as being a cult and getting their unrecognized unmet social and emotional needs met by being made to believe they have this special relationship with Trump, Hannity and a sense of belonging to a inner circle of "powerful" people.
Well put! Thank you.
Great analogy and I think you're right. I also think it might have something to do with feeling that they're finally being recognized and accepted (albeit superficially) by the very groups and individuals who they know previously looked at them as less than. It's so complicated but unfortunately, one major aspect of these people's psyches is lack of insight, so it's unlikely that introspection will illuminate anything for them
He helped me out of the religious cult of my upbringing! Steve knows about colts for sure.
umm its cults not colts
@@BeMobile414 Oh, no, I made a typo! I shall hide my face from the sun in shame. Thank you, dear internet stranger for deciphering the mangled text. Whatever would we do without you? Thank you for contributing to the richness of the conversation.
@@bjjolley I was just being helpful, no need to berate me
@@BeMobile414 - So is it your normal MO to poke people in the eye and then act surprised when they don't like it?
Haha Dr. Hassan is a low key horse researcher 🐴
This is VERY informative. Dr. Hassan really knows what he's talking about. Watch it!
Dr Hassan has given the first and only plausible answer as to why TFGs followers behave the way they do. The saddest thing about this is that those followers- many a paycheck away from poverty have been backing TFG financially when he is a millionaire. Some of those people are intellectually impaired and very vulnerable to 'suggestion' But evn people in high office have been drawn in. It is like 'Svengali'(Trump) has had his followers in a trance like he did with 'Trilby'
His three grown up kids have also been aiding and abetting their father to grift money off these poor people and had their own hands in the lucrative cash-register- they have NO CHANCE of the presidency because their name will be mud into eternity.
Victims of TFG are going to need anti-cult therapy for a very long time. I really hope people trained in cult therapy will help these people.
I believe, also, that some members of Congress and The Senate have also been dragged into TFGs web and are so greedy and needy they will do anything to earn TFGs endorsement. They have also become like CULT lieutenants for TFG and they will also need therapy.
thanks a lot; that's it in the nut shell pretty much.
Thank you, Dr Steven Hassan, for this great information on how cults really work.
Trying to get through to people devoted to a cult is like trying to drill through a concrete block wall with a toothpick: Facts, logic, critical analysis, and historic reference are toothpick-weak against their emotional conviction and belief in the cult-figure. (Concrete BLOCK is a pretty apt metaphor for the "mental block" that gets built around cults and their figureheads.)
yes, exactly; he has been a very Davidian type cult leader, and has been milking a desperate public for every penny. it's a true sheep heard type of 'logic'.
Love what the current admin is doing. We are in such a better place than before. Those tweets were damaging to our security and safety
Oh yeah. So glad “mean tweet guy” is gone and now we have a guy that drone strikes 10 people, killing all of them and 7 were children. No terrorists. But it’s cool “mean tweet guy” isn’t around to hurt anyone’s feelings. Now we have “nice guy” murdering unarmed, defenseless children. I guess that’s the “progress” in “progressive.”
@@rogueandvagabondrabbit5837 FOH. Quit typing and watch the presentation. You need it.
@@jennifer60515 ead
Fear is an outcry of humiliation! Creates anger and a need to find a way find others who believe.
which amounts to a desperate public and trump has milked that for every penny.
In past few years of my study of cults ( I was involved in my 19s, I am 49 now), I notice one common thing nobody is talking about: they MUST fabricate the enemy in order for them to exist. This is very important
I remember, as a teen,
watching Hari Kristna's dance at the airport, beggin dolla's.
Soon, I knew some, some were from myHighSchool class,
and it's like a switch were flipped
in their heads...somebody else lives there now.
but, the scariest thing is,
they shed any personal responsibility, about anything,
and thought serving their leader
"was" the reason for their existance..
and they were already forgiven, anyway..
He told them so.
And yet I have heard Hari Krishna followers who managed to break away talk about how, through the smiles, the chants, the flowers and flowing gowns, as they stood in airports begging money and trying to get recruits, that with each encounter they were desperately hoping that the person would help them, get them away, take them with them. The people you knew are not gone-just buried underneath a cultic personality.
Mirroring works with horses too. It's especially helpful if you either have a feral horse and want to create a connection with the horse who fears you or if you are liberty training a horse.
Good analogy from a life long horse-woman.
Really? That’s amazing.
Really? How is it done? I mean do you neigh, etc? Do horses ever mirror humans?
Dr Hassan, thank you for this presentation, I appreciate it very much. I'm at the beginning, listening as I begin to write and will continue to write and comment as the the video progresses. I grew up in a small town in eastern Oregon which was dominated by Mormons. I grew up with Mormons, and worked for and lived with Mormons as a young man. I had many Mormon friends in school. When we went to recess I hung out with the Mormon kids because they were great kids and I liked them very much. Mormons are wonderful people, the Mormons I've known in my life are hard working wonderful people but I despise the Mormon church and consider the members of that church to be victims. So my childhood was my introduction to cults and I've been interested and fascinated by cults my entire life. I'm always on the lookout for cult behavior and unfortunately it's not hard to find.
I would like to know if you have any insights into what I refer to as Mass Psychosis? Is mass psychosis a part of cults? I believe that our country is in the grip of a mass psychosis right now and the Trump cult is a part of that. Am I wrong? I've been waiting for someone to come out and address this but so far have been disappointed. Thank you
Look up mass psychosis on the internet. I read the Wikipedia entry. I’m not feeling it and nobody I am in contact have expressed any physical symptoms that would lead me to think of mass psychosis. Perhaps you’re thinking of mass delusion…?
I've been wondering much the same thing, Pendleton, except I've been thinking mass hysteria. Mass delusions makes sense too. Maybe mass psychosis is a bridge too far but then again i dont know. I'm not qualified. All I know is, shit is too fucked up
@@LukeMcGuireoides I would suggest that you watch a documentary here on youtube called The Century of the Self. It's incredibly interesting
Yes of course. The same mass psychosis that gripped Germany under the last psychopath that gained power through lies and brainwashing.
no, your not wrong at all--Trump has milked the public's desperation and naivete just like the professed Davidian type cult leader he is . Trump is really just a child, but that isn't surprising given his background and all the circumstantial elements were there to become one of the biggest con artists the world's seen. he came up haveing Norman Peal hammered into him too.
Great talk! I hope that I can put in motion some tips to use with family members on trump. Dr Hassan is very knowledgeable.
Hopefully you also realize CNN and the left is just as much of a cult.
Some of these people are so lost and it’s become their entire identity down to drinking a certain brand of coffee, wearing certain brands of clothing, hair and beard style, what they watch, listen to…. Everything
Down to becoming ANGRY if you point out a particularly egregious comment Tucker Carlson , or any opinion host on Fox News, makes. Angry enough to throw away decades of friendship and personal relationships. It’s insane.
Tucker Carlson should no longer have a platform. He is a recruiting hate monger, dog whistles everywhere. And the best ratings on tv. How depressing for the future.
yes, it's much about being 'lost', and the technocrat cult banned David Icke from his YT channel in spring 2020 because he has know their agenda more than anyone, and has over 20 books written about them. i said in a post last week that i was a teen in the early 1980s, and i saw the change of attitude for the worse then. Ickw tried to get through to people for over 30 years that it has all been orchestrated, and that the internet it's self has been a scam. Bill Gates has had an obvious special purpose of them, and the Unibomber was trying to warn us like Icke except he of used violence that only put him in jail.
I was in a college class discussing sensitivity to ethnic/religious differences in patient populations, and the instructor said to the all white class, "There are going to be times when you say to yourself, I remember when WE ruled the world!" There's that grotesque factor in all of this.
Thank you Mr. Steve Hassan!🌷
Don't let these people off the hook. They're Racist hearts have left them vulnerable!
Really enjoy that talk. Very informative.
Glad to hear it!
Wow, I thought I knew a lot about this but the psychological techniques are spelled out in detail, with concepts I was not familiar with.
It definitely explains why seeing this process in action makes my brain explode.
And the media has adopted and normalized this, so they don’t get off the hook by saying, "well, everyone is lying so that's the way it is." They have thrown out their allegiance to factual reporting. They entertain false narratives as legitimate opinion, I can't take engaging with this seriously.
Excellent work
This was an amazing lecture. But, Dr. Hassan, what you suggest as a way out of the Trump culture seems to require a certain amount of introspection and reasoning that is not seen in so many of the Trumpists.
well that's what makes them Trumpists---he's just trying to help anyone who CAN hear to maybe get through to someone else if they get a chance.
Brilliant as always!
Dr Hassan's message toward the end, the mostly unappreciated message that "greed doesn't work," has never been fully adopted by H. sapiens in spite of our inherent inclination to be altruistic. Unfortunately, we are also tribal. Those two conflicting aspects of human character have always been present - they are pretty much responsible, when you think about it, for all the beauty and all the horror human beings have ever created. But in a cult, the ultimate expression of both, that need to exclude and inculcate the drive for power and control, love and compassion are a weakness. I hope it is true that love and compassion can conquer our worst inclinations.
Shame we learned not a thing from 1930’s Germany. Not a thing.
Thank you Mr Hassan, for turning your experience into teachings that can help us all. I am very fascinated and impressed with your work and the ways in which you share it for the common good.
Great presentation.
Very Good program ..I hope many people listen or watch it!
Excellent, well presented, invaluable information. Many thanks.
This was a most useful analysis and summary; and I look forward to following up and reading more. Thank you for all the excellent resources!
Superb! So very helpful!! Thank you!.
This is great!
The Mercer family had alot to do with the psy-op side.
Yes! Did you read Mindf*ck?
Rebecca, your comment made me curious about Mindf*ck and I just ordered it. Looking forward to reading it. Thanks
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I was recently invited to a Mormon friend’s home for dinner with his family. The entire family was utterly delightful. Two of their seven children were overseas on their missions. The remaining five were polite, friendly and whip smart. I was so impressed with the kind of parenting that it must have taken to raise such exemplary children that my respect for them only grew. Any cliches or misconceptions I had about Mormons simply disappeared. I feel like I made six new friends that evening and I cherish that experience.
"Two of their seven children were overseas on their missions." thats a cliche right there that many of those subjected to them would wish stop.
I know I'm coming late to this (dinner) party but I just found this channel and felt the urge to respond. While most individual Mormons and their families are usually delightful, polite, etc., that's because they're not on the "inside" of that so-called religion. I doubt most even have a clue as to the true origins and early days history. They believe what they believe because that's all they've ever known - dissent and questioning are not welcome. Even if I grew up in Mormonism (LDS) I'd still personally have a problem with any 'religion' that requires me as a female to aspire to nothing greater than marrying and churning out babies. College? A career? Hah! No, woman, stay home and have babies - let the menfolk take care of the Important Things In Life. Pfui.
I would recommend Mormon Stories Podcast for you.
Excellent video
Glad you liked it
People have written as many books about Trump as they have about Hitler.
I was looking for that ! such a great info, thank you
I do not like Trump but they really should have this show for bloodthirsty and brainwashed Democrats
I really appreciated this talk. It's important to use critical thinking for everything. Even things we dearly believe in.
Excellent piece of content. Tysm for posting
I like how on that list "Chapter Five: The Persuasiveness of Trump", the word "facts" does not appear.
ya, that's what their about; excluding facts and evidence.
I QUESTION THE DOCTOR’S JUDGMENT IN USING MARGARET SANGER AND HER UNETHICAL MODEL OF PERSUASION!
Why is it justifiable to name call and attack trump voters?
The answer is, he still doesn't know he is under mind control.
Cults find fertile ground in peoples "pendulum swings" ex.- pagan love cult into ultra right . They excel in entrances and exits. The beat goes on. ❄️🍁🍃
It’s so easy to get caught up in the maelstrom of absolute belief in a cause which is the aims of cultism.
You believe wholeheartedly that you are part of a common cause, that you are convinced it is the right thing to do. It almost gives your life a meaning a justification but in actuality, you are gradually being drawn down the rabbit hole, manipulated by those you believe to be honest and trustworthy have in fact harnessed your mind for their nefarious aims at total control.
Be warned, I woke up and smelled the coffee!
P S ... I think you need to be a regular in the Washington Post and NYTimes. Please, start the conversations! Then do Congress ... Thank you for a fascinating and hopeful program!
1:00:06 he's still pissed off at the moonies, rightfully so 😂
Pastor Gino calls them "trumpusites", just like in the Bible you find the " Jebusites, Moabites, and Amorites.😂
Pastor Gino is also running a cult.
Dont forget the Israelites lmao
without punishment, which it sounds like he's against, they WILL get violent again and again. Violence is the only language they speak or understand.
Very informative.
I've been exposing religious cults for 30 years...and this show has all the earmarks
What does that mean?
I have often wondered how anyone, would want to to let the rest of the world know how little they know about everything. I mean a person in their 70s would have to have a few things rub off on them even if they didn't want it to. Trump is literally an exception to my thinking.
The commentator under me is right, bit it is also sooo important that people who see trough the cult get up and gather on the streets for democracy. The silent majority has to speak up loudly and publicly. Follow the German example: Since three weeks millions gather on the streets speaking up against a far right extremist party that wants to destroy our democracy. You're people also gotta be visible on the streets (without violance of course, crazy that one has to say things like that after jan 6th...)
Dr. Steven Hassan thanks for your truth is my truth. Thanks again.
Yeah him, Facebook, Fox News, OANn, federalist, etc
Now do the cult of the far left!
Exactly!!! It truly is a religion that has the marks of a cult.
These include his grandiose claims, his practice of sowing confusion, his demand for absolute loyalty, his tendency to lie and create alternative "facts" and realities, his shunning and belittling of critics and ex-believers, and his cultivating an "us versus them" mindset. Of all these tactics, the "us versus them" mindset is probably one of the most effective. He says that from the moment you are recruited into a cult, you are made to feel special, part of an "inside" group in opposition to unenlightened, unbelieving, dangerous "outsiders."
Hardcore culties never think theyre in a cult. That's true. Just look at everyone believing Faucci that cloth masks work. When Fauccis email proved he lied and he knew cloth masks did NOTHING no one cared. Because they were in a cult. Their savior or prophet faucci was going to save them all. Meanwhile the leader of moderna was given 926 million as he retired. HMM maybe that was a large payout. You don't see many leaders getting that kind of a bonus. Where was the outcry by democrats for inequality? It was just crickets. But ya trump did some of those things listed above. Sowing confusion. Who else does this? Oh that's right the US and Europe and WEF. Carbon is causing global warming. Lets not take into account the larger solar flares from the sun the past two or three decades. Or that a the longer growing season actually helped increase food production and reduce famine. The sun definitely has zero affect on climate. Or the earths axis tilt. It's so funny that theres so much confusion. It's great for some. Politicians doing insider trading makes billions owning stock they give money to through congress. Elon getting a loan from obama. The WEF puppet crashed and burned Sri Lanka. Thankfully the people there woke out and burned leaders cars and forced him out of the country. You can't force a country to go all organic and then expect them not to have food shortages or a lower tea crop export so lower dollars which means they cant get oil for electricity.
Read the WEF. They promote US vs THEM. The WEF says they're educated and above and not a useless mouth to feed. There's a good point that yes TRUMP does these things, but so do ENVIRONMENTALISTS and the WEF. When one of the freaking founders of green peace a movement to save the environment and stop atomic bomb testings, when a scientist like that says carbon doesn't cause temperatures to skyrocket you gotta ask yourself why the confusion created by the government? Why the us vs them narrative? Oh were enlightened and are saving the planet vs oh youre a climate change denier. It's like a perfect example of that cult like programming. The government has an entire department of psychologists to try to convince more people to do what the government wants. But the green peace leader left and talked about how it was taken over by the left for power and money not the environment. There's been what a 95% reduction in climate related deaths over the last century. And talks about the ice cores and how temperature changes and the sun cycles. Like who knew that vikings were forced out of iceland because it froze and stopped farmers from farming. There was a mini iceage a thousand years ago. They don't teach that in public schools or in the media.
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Steven Hassan, it will be the left-wing. That will turn on the Jews, not the right mark my words. These words will haunt you
I have a friend who works in DC, he said it’s known (amongst people who aren’t in the cult), if trump were to ever buy his way back to president he’d establish Marshall law and never leave. All I can say is I hope there’s a good sniper out there if that ever happens..
Meditation helps me with anxiety and so has certain self-help books. None of them have made me feel I was bad...I allow that to happen. Reality is a very subjective term. Nothing wrong with love.
right, but Trump is an example of a sociopath who has been milking the weakness of much of the public who don't have the self-esteem to cultivate their own minds, and it has also had much to do with many these days 'looking for someone to believe in', which is a symptom of mediocracy mostly created by technology.
Just curious, which religious groups (the healthy ones-your words) are upfront, honest and accountable?!
Was taken to an EST recruitment. Very interesting and being smiling and calm unglued them enough they ganged up on me telling me I needed to commit right that minute. Calmly told them the only immediate choice is if they fall to the floor pulseless, I have 3 min to chose to act. Nothing else is urgent. They left me alone.
I learned in God there is never an urgentcy, best quote for me
ya, it's happened to me before; it's a wolf like behavior they initially.
The one common theme among all Trump haters is their complete unwillingness to ever discuss his policies and wether they were affective or not. It's always about these unprovable character assaults. Negative character assessments that cannot be proven or disproven about him and his followers. NEVER, about facts or the effectiveness of policies.
Everything the say about the Republicans is a projection of what they are doing.
42:49 very important video, thank you!
Lemmings fall into the sea.
So is Trump an 'innocent' in doing what he does by instinct, or was he trained (which would seem doubtful since he is extraordinarily incurious)? As for the others QAnon etc, if that is psi-ops, then by who? Experts (inevitably there will be many) among the alt-right millions? Or influenced by Russia and maybe China? Or a co-operative activity between US alt-right and foreign actors, given that they have common goals?
There's a certain amount of negative people ..that are followers of negative leaders ...
Wow, now I understand why RUclips made a perfect harmony of interesting videos for me, the viewer, about cults, as I was concerned about a friend. Then suddenly, I realize its a big grand line up scheme leading to a political party bash. You're using your own knowledge of mind control to turn people for your own political gain or idea.
I see too many similarities with the entire government and the strong arming of vacc resistant Americans with your BITE model. Great presentation
Catherine Donnelly
This ‘narcissism’ may be a horrible truth!
"Thats a fact JACK"
OMG! Grew up near Trump! Ooh! Awe! Was that supposed to impress?
Can we get a de programmer for all of these cult members 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
People who are thinking for themselves....are thinking for themselves.
This is quite interesting !!