Story 5 (Health Insurance): Good ol' fashioned "Rules for thee, not for me". And the fact that it took the GOVERNMENT stepping in for the policy to be taken out really shows how much of a Karen she is.
Yup, you also see it a lot with the anti-abortion crowd, if they need to get an abortion it's totally fine because it's completely different when they do it vs the people they scream at for doing it.
Absolutely. Karen no doubt always assumed she could 'bend' the rules if SHE needed it. While getting a big promotion for screwing over every other woman in that position.
Meanwhile the state of California had to step in because you only got 24 hrs for a vaginal delivery and 48 for c-section, and a few Bay Area hospitals had sent mother ms home who died. One wasn't fully stable, but her insurance wouldn't budge and she died at home.
That last story was like if, in A Christmas Carol, Scrooge went through all the ghosts only to not change a damn thing except for repossessing Tiny Tim’s cane and telling him to walk it off
I love stories like this. There was some about an older woman and an older guy [two different]. One the old lady was begin ignored and they kept talking to her husband, so she left the dealership and bought a Lincoln instead and drove it back to tell them off. The other the guy was a farmer, but loaded, showed up dressed as a farmer, everyone ignores him. He goes elsewhere and gets nice cars, cleans up, dresses up, goes back and everyone wants his business at Dealership 1 and he rubs in their faces that they ignored him earlier so he was going to use the superior dealership for the same kind of car.
My friend is legitimately is struggling to find a car and was like "I don't want to deal with them lying or messing with me" and the grandma in the one story and the parents in the other did 100% what I told him to do: Just leave and go elsewhere
They should make it illegal to refuse check payments. In fact, once they determine the total out the door pricing, they should mandate the price is good for financing or check payment.
I actually had a similar but not quite situation when I bought the car I have now. I spent days negotiating a price. I was more interested in an "out the door" price than a "how much per month" price. Once I got the price negotiated, I get pre-approved for that much money through my bank at a pretty good interest rate. So they take longer than is really necessary at the dealership. I think the sales guy was confused that I was talking more about "How much?" than "How much per month?". They told me that in order to get the price I negotiated, I *had to* use their in-house financing. They told me that *at the dealership*. We almost left right then. The dealership also wanted nearly twice the interest rate my bank quoted me. Anyway, we almost walked away in the "finance" department, too. But I think the finance manager knew what we were doing, because he asked us *not* to pay the car off for 6 months (they wanted to put us on a 72 month note). We fake agreed (we didn't have the money to pay it off that quickly anyway), though I did pay it off in a year. I don't know what the difference is/was in interest that I would have paid, but I like to think I "saved" myself a little money that way.
For the last story, I bet the reason why she didn't change the rules after was now that she had been forced to go through it herself and she knew how bad it was, she felt justified in making sure everyone else was forced to go through the same ordeal as well. The thought of trying to make sure other people didn't suffer like she did probably never even crossed her mind, just "I did it, so now you need to too"
Oh, this is definitely it. It's literally the same logic that boomers use to justify the shitty policies like not raising the minimum wage or forgiving student loans or socialized healthcare in the US. "We didn't get free handouts and made it, so neither should you! Just work harder!". Like to me... I dunno, I just feel like it's the duty of the previous generation to make life better and easier for the next, not demand things be fair and equal(despite vastly different economic circumstances).
“I suffered so now you must suffer” is the reason I give for sending like cursed memes and shit. Applying it to things like *Health Care* is disgusting.
Story 4 (Moving Out): Some people never truly realize how much someone contributed until that someone leaves and takes all their stuff with them. Should've just kept their mouths shut and let OP stay
Agreed. At the very least, they really should have put on their big-girl pants and had a civil conversation with OP about the situation and worked out a proper resolution. Granted, then we would not have gotten to hear about how OP made these buttholes pay for their buttholery, so I suppose either way it worked out (and OP landed on their feet so it really did work out well for OP too).
The landlady needs to be looked at too, what landlady/landlord gives their tenants the right to kick out another paying tenant without talking to that tenant first? Scummy landlady
fr tho. Literally the only one I feel bad about in that situation is the cat. Cats don't do well with drastic, abrupt changes in their environment, and having all its toys _and_ its safe spot (the cat tree) taken away was probably awful for the poor thing.
Story 3 I was listening and no reading along, so I thought at first "why would the company pay out an £800 refund if the company policy trip is £400?" Then I went back and read with rSlash and realised it was £4k and it was a misspeak lol, cost the company 5 times more than just refunding
If they ever do then this Subreddit wouldn't be around or at least half it's stories. I seriously doubt they will. Or when they do it's too that to turn back.
Story 3: After working closely with multiple executives, it sounds like they wanted you to get your birthday present and made up some corporate mumbo gumbo to keep you from staying. Most divisions like that have a huge budget and it probably came out of their potential bonus. Either that or they are just an idiot
I was coming to say just this. The VP wanted him to go but had to sound like a dick, so he wouldn't get in trouble or hoped that OP would do the right thing and go.
i was so confused about your comment until i went back to actually look at the video instead of just listening to it, lol cause when R/Slash mis-spoke and said it cost them £400 instead of £4,000 i though th company was just being frugal
Sometimes organisations have to obey rules and policies regarding reasons for payouts, and are ready to be hit with an occasional big payout for certain instances rather than changing a rule which is generally beneficial for them, or avoiding a bigger damage for breaking rules they could be punished for breaking. Don't know if that applies to story 3 or not.
I worked for multiple car dealerships. It's the manager that forces the sales people into doing the whole " you must finance here" because they can hold 2-3% points and sell warranties and make thousands on the back end
Well sure but you aren't going to build a customer relationship by doing what they are doing to cash buyers. If you build a relationship by just letting it go, that has a much higher chance of turning into what they want in the future than this way does. I purchased my last car sight unseen & had it shipped across the country from Florida to Minnesota. I paid in full by wire transfer out of my checking. It was very easy & there was no hassle at all. Now I have positive feelings about that interaction as I did it a few months after my husband was killed in a car accident so I was never going to spend time arguing with someone. I'd have just moved on to somewhere else & known to NEVER shop there again. Now when I buy another car (if I choose financing or not), I'm calling them first to see what they have available. I also recommend them to friends when I got asked about my car (unusual car for my area at the time. Now it isn't) & I know at least 2 of them have used their financing services. I just refuse to waste my valuable time arguing with someone but I won't forget if you try make me do that.
That last story reminds me of the first issue I had with my store manager. I work at a grocery store where I sometimes have to do carts and bottle room (bottle and can returns) well at the time I was also responsible for the online pick up orders and I was all alone on a Saturday, our second busiest day. So between online pick up and bottle room carts suffered a bit. As soon as I was caught up on both I started bringing in carts and was called to the office. I went in and long story short “carts take priority” so after online pick ups were done for the morning I ignored the bottle room completely. Got called back in yelled at about the bottle room and threw his words back in his face. He never pulled that again
IT lady’s story resonated so much with me, although I don’t work in IT. I too used to have a massive amount of responsibilities, poor pay and ridiculously incompetent or lazy managers who basically offloaded their work onto their subordinates and didn’t even have the decency to be grateful or respectful when we - foolishly seeking to help the company - brought up problems with their ignorantly stupid plans - even when paired with solutions. ‘Let’s give it a try and see how it goes’ is the mating call of the egomaniac who is best left to burn in the flames of their own failure. Once you have their stupid in writing, of course.
This is why I left IT and moved to the Quality Control department. I now get to be the one who takes the stupid that's in writing and burn somebody with it. Nicely, of course, but when I burn somebody with it, you know you've been burned.
Karen must be one of those "You're not a real mom if you had a C section" types Karen: I know that's a major surgery, but you can't have 4 days to recover Also Karen: But I'm in so much pain!! This is inhuman, you can't send me home yet!!!! And she STILL doesn't change that stupid policy. Oh, the irony.
This is not fraud, this is straight up barbaric. In most countries outside the United States, not only do you get time to recover, you get maternity and paternity leave, because the baby is extremely vulnerable, especially without the mother being present, but not in the States, because kids are considered a nuisance there, I guess. You just gave birth and are barely able to move? Get back to work, you peasant! **whiplash noises**
The last story reminds me of something that happened to my step mom when she needed a c-section to give birth to my half-sister. Before I begin, I need to give everyone in the San Berardino area a PSA: Redlands Community Hospital SUCKS. If you can, go to Loma Linda instead. Moving on, my step mom had the displeasure of getting her c-section done at Redlands. Partially because that was the closest hospital, partially because she worked for the smaller attached pharmacy as a nurse. After she was done, there was literally no color in her face, and she had no strength. My dad was very obviously concerned, and my then 7 year old step sister was freaked out to the point of crying because she was scared "Mommy was gonna die." Despite this, her doctor, who I still wish the absolute worst in life, was insisting "Whelp she looks fine to me. You and your baby can go home today." He was trying to discharge her from the hospital IMMEDIATELY. It took my dad channeling his inner Karen the way he can only do inside a medical office to yell and throw a fit and demand her doctor use his goddamn eyes for the doctor to take a second look at her. She was hemorrhaging. If she went home, she would have 100% died. See, they both wanted to try for a third kid someday, but now they can't because they're almost positive that a third pregnancy will kill her. So yeah, my fellow Southern Californians, if this is how Redlands Community Hospital treats their employees, how do you think they'll treat you???
Story 5: I guarantee the Karen had a lot of thoughts and feelings after her visit. But knowing the type it was all rage and 'betrayal' that OP wouldn't do that one tiny (fraudulent) act to get her the the extra days she needed. Every ounce of rage and pain she felt going home after two days was turned to OP. Because the system works as she designed it. It works for 'the right people' who know 'the right words' to put in the charts, and F anyone who isn't in the know. She left knowing 'this isn't a bug ,it's a feature' but OP wasn't willing to do 'their part'.
I love the grandma story when she went to the second dealership that had to be the easiest sale that dealership ever made. And good for grandma for driving it right back to the first dealership.
The insurance lady: She didn’t only lay in the bed she made for herself. She made the beds for a lot of women before that, and now she has to lay in it too… And now, for some reason, thinks she deserves to refuse to go through what she made them suffer. Anyone feels sorry for her? If so, raise your hand.
Last story: I'm currently 17 weeks with twins myself, and we are planning a C-section (I have a complication that would make regular birth excruciating for me and dangerous for babies). I dread to think that I'd HAVE to leave after just 2 days if my doctor said I needed longer. My doctor advised 2-3 days MINIMUM, and I've never had surgery before so I have no idea what will happen. That health insurance woman is my *worst nightmare*. I'm glad California did something about that policy. And I'm also glad I'm not in California anymore.
Yeah. I'd rather here a real voice that can emote then the ones where a digital voice stumbles through slang words. And hearing his opinion on the various stories is always interesting. AND FREAKING YUGO! No one else does puppy bloopers. Cherry on top. Love you, Dabney! ❤❤❤
As someone who works in insurance that last story made me mad. Yes insurance IS supposed to be convenient. It's supposed to give you ASSURANCE that some if not all of your medical bills will be covered. It insures that you'll be okay Financially. It is by far not a perfect system but that's what it's meant to do. And people like her are the reason insurance can really suck for people. My company follows CMS guidelines which in itself can be restrictive but at least it's a federal standard and were not going around making our own decisions to make things hard for members. Whenever getting insurance make sure to ask if they follow CMS guidelines for this exact reason.
First Story: The sales rep did tell them if they didn’t have what they deemed was necessary they could leave. Well, they did just that and went to a differend dealership Comment: Damn, Grandma was a different kind of petty 😂. She didn’t evebn bother to negotiate a better price; she paid and drove the new car to the other dealership to flex Second Story: So instead of paying OP a small amount of money, they had to pay OP money in the thousands because the VP of IT was being difficult. Some people need to think before they act Third Story: I should be a major red flag when someone ask for something in writing. This usually means that what is being asked/ordered will be a terrible idea. As OP's boss's boss soon found out with asking OP to block the access of everyone with no exceptions Fourth Story: Well it seems like OP contributed a lot towards the apartment since a majority of the stuff in there belonged to OP. Well they got what they wanted with conditions lol. I wish OP provided the reactions Fifth Story: Wow thats very ironic that she refused to leave after the C-section. She now knows how the other patients felt when they had to be discharged in 2 days after this. I can’t stand greedy people
I had a c section last year and can 100% confirm that being kicked out of the hospital on day two would have been completely insane. I could barely shuffle around at that point and probably wouldn’t have been able to physically leave the building without collapsing, let alone care for my son without help. I was in the hospital for five days, which is the bare minimum Japan will allow after a c-section (they’d rather you stay a full week) and I’m still wrangling with my US health insurer about it. They haven’t denied my claim, they’re just kind of ghosting me. 😤
Grandma in that 2nd story is my kind of petty. Won't let me buy from you? Fine. How do you like my new car from a DIFFERENT place? Like- when will car salesmen realize that people have options!
I have a similar story but not a car. My grandfather was a very successful businessman but after retiring never dressed like one. Usually wore overalls and an old shirt everywhere but church. For his 50th anniversary he decided to buy my grandmother a “tennis bracelet” (yeah this is in the 80s). Fir those who aren’t familiar with that fashion item, they were wide jeweled bracelets, in this case the jewels being diamond and sapphires with a band of gold. At that time the cost was around $10,000. I and my sister took him went to a good (we thought) jeweler. My sister and I wandered away to look at other items and my sister said “be quiet I think they’re talking about grandpa”. Sure enough the clerks were giggling and whispering about the “crazy old coot who thinks he’s going to buy something here. Maybe we’ll sell him a shopping bag.” My sister then asked a clerk for some assurance. She’s dressed up and looks like someone who would definitely shop there(reality was she was a broke student ) and they fell all over themselves to help her and my grandfather sat patiently , completely ignored. After wasting their time and asking for many items to be shown she walked to my grandfather, asked for his wallet, took it to the clerks who by now are quite stunned and showed them the cash (enough to buy the bracket), along with his AmEx (exclusive at the time), and the business card for his well known company. Nowadays that would be a foolish thing to do but thing to do but times were different and we were in a jewelry store with security entrances. She cussed them all out and told them we’d be going to their competitor. The manager tried to back pedal and say he’d been so quiet they hadn’t seen him but my sister just quoted back to her the remark about selling him a paper bag. She then told me we’re leaving (I did not question it) and got my rather confused grandfather (he hadn’t heard the clerks he just heard his granddaughter screaming at them) and we left. We never told him what happened just that they weren’t a good store. My grandmother got her bracelet.
That last story is THE reason why I hate American health insurance companies: they make bank on the misery of others. They make extra cash on cases (like my mom) in states that have anti-euthanasia laws. And yes, I am using my mom as an example of this because she died a few years ago from cancer, and despite cancer sucking in general her case extra sucked because this cancer (lung cancer, btw) grew so big that it broke 3 ribs on her back. She needed high doses of opium to not feel any pain. BUT! That also meant that when she was not fully conscious but in pain, she was so heavily medicated that she was barely able to recognize her own family around her! Terminal. Painful. Cancer. In Texas. You can bet your backside that Hospice and the Medical Industry was making a shit-ton of money on her dying months. -.- I could go on and on about this, but better linguists and philosophers have already been on that soapbox. One of them even technically died there while making people laugh (R.I.P. George Carlin). Speaking of, time for me to go watch more of his videos now.
Malicious compliance is something I will always savour... also, too bad for that BMW dealership. Dealerships make a good chunk of their money through financing, but trying to force a customer to use their financing is unacceptable. Same with talking smack about other brands. It's poor taste to insult other brands and way better to say yours does things better.
#4: I was a security systems administrator for a large NYC hospital. I was responsible for installation, maintenance and repair of all the security systems. This entailed climbing into ceilings, running cables, installing cameras, card access control. My boss wanted me to wear a suit and tie as I am an "administrator". Well after ruining several dress shirts and pants, I went to wearing work jeans and a tee or polo shirt. My boss pitched a fit about "unacceptable dress." I told him if he wants me in a suit and tie then I won't do installs & service; or he can reimburse me EVERY TIME I damage dress pants and dress shirts.
Some car buying tips: Never tell the dealer you're paying cash. Ever since fair market value of a car became a quick Google search away, dealerships had to alter their tactics. They can't overprice a car because you'll know, so they try to get you on some brutal interest rates in the finance department. If you say you're paying cash, they know they can't negotiate interest rates, so you lose your leverage on negotiating the base cost. Tell them you haven't decided on your financing yet, do your haggling, and AFTER you've agreed on a price in writing tell them you're paying cash. If you do need to finance, don't let them talk you into low monthly payments, because low monthly payments equals long term loans. "Oh it's only $300 a month for 84 months," keep in mind that 84 months is 7 YEARS. If you can't afford the payments on a 3-year loan, the car is too expensive for you. Look for another car.
See, the thing is in the last story...she DIDN'T go "oh, this is still a fine policy, keep it as it is". She went "well, the policy is really inconvenient for my circumstances, so commit fraud on my behalf to make me an exception to my own rules"
For-profit health insurance is the business of providing as few benefits as they can get away with, while charging as much as they can get away with. Benefits are expenses (from the company's POV), so the fewer they pay out on the better their bottom line is. That's why their claims processes are always so messy and service reps generally unhelpful. If you've ever seen "The Incredibles", that scene where the dad character gets fired for helping people too much is sadly pretty realistic.
I've had two c sections and both times I could not wait to leave the hospital lol. There is no resting or sleep when someone comes in your room every two hours ALL NIGHT LONG and flips on lights and pushing on a very painful abdomen. I feel like without complications 4 days would be torture.
No C sections here..1) vacuum extraction after 12 hours labour 2 hour pushing.. 2) 12 hours normal, 3) OmG 5 hours so easy and the first live birth my mom saw. The only one went home the next day each time. MOM FLIPPED!! " l was in the hospital for 10 days with each of you 6!" IAM still shocked! XooX
As a retired nurse, I got so much satisfaction from that. I HATE micro management and asshole jumped up narcissistic people like that who made my job harder
health insurance is nothing but a pure scam and the number one reason why healthcare in america is so expensive. people are dying right now of treatable illnesses because they can't afford healthcare, but the thing is, a lot of them have health insurance that they have invested into thousands if not millions of dollars already! money that could be used to pay for their healthcare, but they can't get that healthcare because the insurance company denies them coverage. its your fucking money, and your fucking health and your fucking doctor says you need this treatment and some dude who has never had medical training says no and boom. no treatment for you! universal healthcare right the fuck now please! if you won't vote for it because "how dare this poor person get healthcare off of my dime!" then do it for the thousands of dollars you will save when you no longer need to pay the insurance company each month. you'll still get your healthcare, at the same or more likely higher level, and it will be much cheaper.
I think that VP in the third story was actually _helping_ OP on purpose. The ethical bit is a big hint to that. I'm _certain_ he knew what he was going to end up paying for. lol I think it was even an off-the-books bonus of sorts for OP working so hard.
With the last story I think it was less of an "even though I experienced how awful the policy I made is I'm still going to keep it because it wasn't that bad" situation it's more of a "Well I suffered so now everyone else has to suffer"
OB-GYN story: I ran into that horrible policy with my first child. I inherited a condition which made a full-term baby’s head too large to fit through the bones of my pelvis, so this made a c-section mandatory. Always. I was shocked when they discharged me after barely more than 24 hours. As I was packing to go home, one of the nurses tipped me off to something important: after abdominal surgery, they wouldn’t discharge the patient until after the patient had a bowel movement. I don’t know whether it was due to the anesthesia stopping the muscle movement in the intestines or some other factor. But it was a rule. So that is how I got a three day stay with my second child. (I couldn’t stretch it any further or they would have given me a laxative to move things along.) I’m passing this tip along to anyone facing labor and delivery: if you end up having a c-section, do your best to hide any 💩 until you are ready to go home. But you can only stretch this so far.
Do any of your other past stories have updates? You choose a lot of unfinished stories, and your story telling keeps me and my Mom, VERY invested 😭 Anyway love your stories!!
Check out Mark Narrations! He is usually up to date with stories and even reads comments under the stories. And when it comes to AITA stories....he does better ratings
Dabney doesn't update on older stories. The closest you can get to an update is when he does BoRU edition. Some stories are worth following up on. I have seen some comments requesting him to provide original story links in the video description so that interesting stories are easyu to follow-up on; I have commented the same on multiple occasions. But I suppose Dabney missed reading those requests.
@@hoper1294 uuuuuu I will do that!!!! Cuz we also listen to Lost Genre and he basically always chooses stories with updates. I will add Mark to our list. Thank you!!!
@@vivekpatankar oh darn jajaja oh well, I'll break the news to my Mom. She really likes listening to Dabney but at the end she's always "no update?!?" 🤣🤣
@@vivekpatankar It is sad that he is one of the "best" reddit reads channels and yet he got super lazy with his success... He use to provide links and would try and cover updates if available at the time in his older videos... Once he saw that he just has to pump out a new video everyday and not put any real thought into it that became his norm... He doesn't care and I'm losing interest in his channel because others do it better... I like when channels cover updates, extra info, and top comments because it gives a full story to comment on but here you have to hope someone in the comments knows about the update and shares it there. This of course defeats the purpose of listening to these stories if I have to track down and read the rest...
What don't people get of "I want that in writing." being a massive red flag for "You are going to regret that decision and I'm going to fully blame you for it. Are you doubly sure you want to do this?"
Back in June, I had an emergency C-section for my twins because my organs were failing due to HELLP Syndrome. I had to be hooked to a magnesium drip for 24 hours, I needed blood because I lost a lot of blood during the procedure, I almost died. I couldn't walk until Day 3 because I was a seizure risk, and barely was able to function after discharge on Day 4. That policy that the health insurance VP introduced and supported would have literally gotten me killed. I don't normally wish suffering on others, but I'm glad she felt the effects of her actions. I'm just angry that she didn't have the empathy to change it herself. Yes, I know I commented before - but the actual experience was even worse than I dreaded, and I had to share.
Story 1 - If OPs parents looked into it all they may have found the dealership broke some law, for one they REFUSED what can be viewed as legal tender, while a personal check might not be legal tender, a check that is from the bank is effectively legal tender since it is pretty much like walking in with a suitcase full of cash. OPs parents could also have screwed them over much more by complaining to the car company they represented, because you can bet such BS wouldnt have washed higher up if pre-approval was already involved. Dealerships are there to move cares, not make 3rd party deals with finance sharks.
Rslash still doesn’t understand how greedy humans are especially corporate humans. I have to applaud him it means he still struggles to get into the toxic mindset these horrible people have.
the easiest way to see how these people think is to enter what i call the "monopoly" mindset. you want to win so you need to find the best way to make your opponents pay you the most money as soon as possible. its all about how to make the most money as fast as you can. you don't want to spend a penny more then you can get away with. its all about winning.
I almost died because my insurance made me wait 2 weeks for insulin. My stockpile got me to 12 days and I had to go over 24 hours without insulin. I still think I have some kind of damage from that day because complications got a lot more common and harsh for just having high blood sugar.
The system is designed for you and others with long-term conditions to die. It costs too much money to keep you alive. Healthcare providers are in the business of making money, not providing healthcare.
@@agentzapdos4960 It's not even expensive for them. It costs about 20 to 30$ to manufacture insulin, but without insurance it's hundreds of dollars. The only thing you can get for a comparable price is the "medium term" insulin at Walmart that you have to change your life around for. Good luck if you haven't switched insulins before. It's just expensive because of things like pumps and CGMs, which are, in my opinion and experience, necessary to live a semi-normal life without having to worry about it constantly. Thank you for being supportive, I can't wait for a day when healthcare is better.
Two days after a c-section is all I got with my second and third. Kind of scary-my second spit up while on her back the first day and I couldn't sit up far enough to pick her up and could only reach her enough to grab her blankets and tip her on her side. luckily the nurses were able to get there fast and she was ok, but that could have gone really wrong if it had happened at home the next day and I didn't have family to help.
Only two days of rest after getting cut in half? What crazy land you live in? My wife stayed in hospital for 5 days if I recall. And then had another few days of bedrest at home.
First story: My good friend owns a licensed dealership. (Think Toyota, Ford, Chevrolet, etc., as opposed to a used car dealership, though he has one of those attached to his dealership too.) About four years ago they started in house financing, but they would rather make a sale with outside financing than brow beat a person into using their financing. Went in a couple years ago to buy a car from him, and it was the only time I would have told the sales rep that I was paying cash. They want to finance you because they can hit you on the back end with interest.
Story 1: My parents had a similar incident happen. Not with a car, but with a bass boat. The bass boat we had since I was just a baby (I'm almost 30) was getting old, with parts becoming increasingly hard to find. To illustrate the point, one of the last couple years that we had it, one of the parts (I think it was the ignition switch or a piece of the motor) went bad. The guys servicing the boat couldn't find anything on a regional search and had to execute a nationwide search and finally found a replacement part in Alabama (we live in Illinois, more specifically, northwest of Chicago). Well, every year, we go to Bass Pro Shops (the closest one being in Gurnee) to renew our fishing licenses and get more fishing gear (lures, fishing line, bait, etc.). About ten or so years ago, when we walked into the store, my mother turned to my father and said, "Let's buy a new bass boat." It took my father completely by surprise, as he never expected her to say that. So they went to a salesman and started talking about trade-ins, price, etc. Within five minutes, the salesman blew the sale, citing "corporate policy." He said that "corporate policy" meant that they didn't accept trade-ins on boats more than ten years old, and even if they did, "corporate policy" wouldn't allow my parents to trade it in for more than a certain dollar amount, and "corporate policy" meant that they couldn't discount the sticker price of a boat on their sales floor by more than $1000, even if the blue book value of the boat was even lower than the aforementioned sticker price with the $1000 discount included. Absolutely fed up with the salesman and his "corporate policy," my father stood up, told the salesman that he was ready to sign on the dotted line right then and there, but because the salesman blew the sale, my father would take his business to an independent Tracker dealer. A year or so later, my father and I were in the Bass Pro Shops again, and met the manager of the boat sales department, and recounted that story to him. The manager was very apologetic about it, and even if he couldn't take the boat himself, he was far more helpful than his subordinate (whom he said was more than likely fired for blowing too many sales by citing "corporate policy"), and even pulled out his blue book and showed how much our old boat was valued, and gave us options as to where we could go to trade it in for a new one. So we found an independent Tracker dealer in Southwestern Wisconsin, who has been very good to us. We traded in our old boat with no problems, bought a new one, and every winter, we have them winterize and store the boat. None of that "corporate policy" B.S. getting in the way of making the customer happy. And they made a $50,000+ sale on a new bass boat, while Bass Pro Shops lost out, because of "corporate policy.'
So were the corporate policies not real? Were they flexible and possible to avoid so the sales guy could’ve made the sale if he were better at the job? I don’t understand how following policy is a fatal flaw.
@@kranberry3318 Oh, they were real, as the sales manager confirmed. But it was more the salesman's attitude about it than anything else that blew the sale. As I said, the manager was willing to look at the trade-in value for our boat and give us options to sell it elsewhere. The original salesman never refused to do that. Plus, Illinois is an at-will employment state, and since Bass Pro Shops is not unionized, they could fire him for any reason, or no reason at all. So my guess is he blew too many sales because he had a bad attitude with customers while citing corporate policy, and that's why they likely canned him. I'm not saying the customer is always right, but if you drive away enough potential customers, it brings down the store's reputation and your own work performance. Heck, look at GameStop. They're constantly trying to get customers to buy extended warranties and memberships, because they're graded on how many of those they sell. If they don't sell enough of those warranties or memberships, never mind the games or consoles themselves, it can reflect negatively on the worker, and they can get fired. In fact, I interviewed for them once for a job, and the managers told me flat-out that their main business was selling memberships, not games. Same with Barnes & Noble. What does that say about a company when their main product is basically a subscription service and not a physical object, and if you don't sell enough subscriptions, you can get fired?
I had twins years ago--one natural, the other a C-section (little sister did NOT want to turn around)--and in our state, there's a three day stay after a C-section. Despite having to go through both, by the end of day 2, I was BEGGING them to let me go home (they insisted I stay for three, just in case). But, that was me with my partner, no complications, and while the twins were early (5 weeks), they were both very healthy. I know there are some moms who want to stick around in the hospital for as long as possible to get all the help they can, but honestly, I just wanted to be home. People should have that option--not to stay indefinitely, but to stay long enough to make sure everyone is on an even keel.
Read the roommate story on best of redditor updates.The top comment was this. I love it when people seem to forget that their house is stocked with the person they're abusing's stuff. Either that or they were stupid enough to think she'd just leave all her furniture if they shouted loud enough.
Or OP did something truly egregious and deserved to be kicked out. You don't just scream at someone you hate them without something inciting that hatred.
Story 5: I did this also while I was in college. My roommate started to get me expaild and when they didn't work she turned 2 of the other 3 against me. I was so upset cause they were my friends and they literally made me out to be the bad guy. Only thing is, I am very talkative when I'm upset and stressed so a good amount of the students knew the truth an even the Dean of students was on my side. I was able to move into another dorm room for the last 3 months of college. I took everything. Cleaning supplies, dishes, silverware, pots, pans, spices, food, my PS3, my small table, the broom and pot. Everything.
Last story: You’d think it would change her view, but no. This is just what happens when people completely lack empathy. Even if they experience the problem themselves, it just doesn’t translate to a necessary thing for other people. They view everyone else as NPCs, not people like themselves.
I simply loathe health insurance. I loathe that we have to spend about 20% of our gross income in health insurance premiums for our family for coverage that would bankrupt us if we ever had to go to a hospital. And the last story just makes me furious to know that behind the scenes really are morally bankrupt, assholes perpetuating this disgusting excuse for healthcare access
I too went to a small town car dealer at a town 90 miles away that had been recommended to do great deals. I found a used pickup I liked. I asked about buying it and they wanted to set up financing for the truck. I said no I planned to pay cash for it, and what kind of a deal they would give me for paying cash for the truck. They said they would have to charge me an additional $1,000 for paying cash for it! What? Why should I have to pay an additional thousand dollars for paying cash? They strongly encouraged me to pay the original price, and to accept the financing through the local bank! I refused! That was just unethical! I went to several other dealerships, and explained how the first dealership was going to charge me an additional $1,000 dollars for paying cash for the purchase of the truck! They said they had never heard of such a practice! Unfortunately none of the other dealerships had a truck at the price I was looking for. I ended up buying a Dodge Grand Caravan, that actually has met my needs better than a truck would’ve!
I heard a story from my CNA Instructor once. She told me that years ago there was a doctor who anytime a patient got kidney stones Would only prescribe like Tylenol or ibuproven. Anyone who has ever had a kidney stone no that those do not cut the pain. Well one day this doctor got a kidney stone himself and was was in massive pain. He wanted The best pain pill he could get on hand. After that the doctor would prescribe the strongest painkiller you could possibly find for his patients. That is something all health care people need to experience. The reason I say that's cause I have been a patient and a healthcare worker.
I had something like that first story. Nothing so expensive… I was looking for a base model Mazda crossover. I communicated with a sales rep and said we’d already secured financing through our credit union. I’d test driven several vehicles and was ready to buy whichever I could find first in blue (this was last March… I really wanted blue but supply in general was iffy. They had one so there you go). I was led to believe after some negotiation that I just needed to come in and take care of the paperwork. I went in and was promptly placed in an office while my ID and insurance cards were taken to be scanned. Now, I know how this works. Get the card from you, start talking around you, wait it out until you’re tired, gain what they want to gain. But the price was already discussed and I had financing. So he comes back and starts trying to get me to fill out a credit application. I say I have financing. He tries to press the issue. He gets a manager involved. He tries to offer me a snack (I’d been there maybe 20 minutes). They’re leaning over me, they’re telling me my husband has to come down to sign off on the financing, they’re saying filling out a credit application is their policy… and the whole time I’m texting my husband in a running commentary. We both get fed up with the little head games they’re trying to pull after saying it’s a done deal. So I got up and asked for my ID back, said I thought we’d had an agreement and that I hadn’t come in to play head games and left. Bought a Hyundai instead. The laugh is… I ended up financing through the Hyundai dealership. They offered a better deal on the loan without trying to force me to submit an application before saying so. It took time but they didn’t gather around me and try to pressure me into things, and they never once said I could only buy if my husband came in to sign off on the loan… even when I was considering doing so through the credit union. Still dunno what that was all about. And of course, Mazda later (before I bought the Hyundai) tried to sweeten the deal and sell me the car. No dice. Come back in and risk more games and then have to go there for my maintenance package? I think not. Take this lesson, car sellers (if indeed anyone is still reading)… people hate being pressured. They don’t respond to it anymore, at least, less of us are putting up with it. Once in a while you’ll find a desperate sucker but a lot of us shop before we are out of options and if you don’t treat us with respect, a competitor just might.
Grandma with car: our extended family had a similar issue but is even more "in your face." My uncle was looking for a particular make, model, and trim of a car. Finds car at a dealership. Goes to buy car. Apparently salesman doesn't like his haggling prowess and refuses to sell said car to him. Okay then. Uncle goes to a different dealership. Finds a similar car there but not quite what he wants. Does his haggling back and forth for a little while and eventually says, "I know (other dealership) has this car which is exactly what I want but they refused to sell it at this price. Is it possible for y'all to switch out cars and sell that one to me?" (Uncle knows this is the case because he buys and sells cars) "Sure! No problem!" So next day, uncle picks up his car at the second dealership, then drives over to the first dealership and finds the salesman that didn't want to deal with him. Points at car, tells him he bought it from the other dealership, then drives off. My uncle was very petty, especially when it came to cars.
I told a dealer that I would put most of the price down in cash for a certain model of used truck that was I my price range, and I only needed to finance the last few thousand dollars. They offered me several examples of a different truck for more money by phone and email, and I refused. Then they finally offered me 2 of the correct truck, but they tried to force me to do in-house financing. I went in to test drive the trucks, but I told them no, that I would check with my credit union to see if they could do better. The dealer reduced the rate a little, just to keep me there. I told them "no" again, and I was ready to swear off that dealer for life because they weren't listening. I walked away. I left and checked with my credit union, who took a couple of days to get back with me because I had zero credit whatsoever. The dealer got antsy, and the salesmen kept leaving voicemails to tempt me back in. I got rejected by my credit union, and I prepped myself to have to bend over for the in-house financing. When I went back, I didn't tell the dealer I had been rejected. I just acted happy, like I knew it was gonna all go in my favor that day, because I had indeed been in touch with my longtime credit union. Then the salesman gave me a super rate in writing, and that's when I told him that I had actually come there with no other offers that day. He had just dropped the rate again, and substantially, for nothing. The salesman formed a sheepish grin on his face, knowing full well I had just played him. Well, he had played himself. I paid that 3-year finance plan off early in less than 2 years, and I'm still rocking that truck 8 years later. Great deal for me, all around!
That car sales story reminds of a Raiffeisen bank commercial. The guy who needs the loan is trying to say something and the bank clerk immediately covered his ears with his hands and "PAPAPAPAPAPPAPAAPPAP". The guy looked at him like "WTF?" and said "As I was trying to say I don't..." "PAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPA"
Story1: We had a jackass salesman who promised us the moon pretty much and then reneged on it all. Offered us a price and then came back and said his boss wouldn't let him go that low & it would have to be higher-- without fixing the typhoon damage to it or doing any of the stuff he promised they would do if we bought it. It was over $30k brand new but damaged in the typhoon. We walked out. He called us and said he would go lower and told us to meet at a certain time. We needed to go to that part of town anyway so we went down there & he blew us off. We realized he was trying to see how much we wanted the vehicle so he could get us on the hook and keep jerking us around. We told the manager to tell the guy to pound sand. We went to another dealership and found a better vehicle-- higher end model, less damage, & cheaper than the other one. Salesman didn't give us any crap-- just knocked the price down & guaranteed (in writing) that they would fix the typhoon damage for free & it came with a warranty. Other vehicle was "as is" despite being "new". He later sent us a refund check for like $2k bc the vehicle didn't have one of the features listed. It took a few days for the bank to give us the $ for the downpayment and while we were waiting the other jerk called & said that some people were looking at the vehicle and we better get down there and buy it or they would get it. We said "Then sell it to them". He started to argue and we told him that it didn't matter if it was the best vehicle on the planet, we weren't buying from him bc he was a jerk. Story2: Some things to watch out for that the dealers will do: They will find an excuse to try to get your keys from you and they will hold onto them and refuse to give them back. They sometimes will take your driver's license when you go for a test drive and refuse to give it back unless you buy from them. I had to threaten to call the police to get my mother's license back at one place. They will make you wait to wear you down. So, if it takes more than an hour or two, just walk. Even if you really want it, tell them you don't have time and leave. Granny driving by the other dealership to rub it in was great! Story3: Ah, bean counters who end up paying more $. Reminds me of when one of my dad's co-workers was supposed to be compensated for stuff on a trip and they refused to reimburse him for a pair of $1 socks. He ended up fighting them on it and they spent hundreds of $ refusing to reimburse him and then ultimately did, but it cost them a lot more than if they had just reimbursed him in the first place bc they got their lawyers involved. He had an attorney friend who helped him pro bono. Story4: LOL. Love how OP handled this. I would have insisted that the promise for overtime pay and a raise were put in writing. Story5: It can be tough in roommate situations and in romantic relationships that break down when one person brought in most of the kitchenware and furniture. One of my friends went through a breakup recently & we're having trouble getting her stuff bac bc her ex immediately changed the locks & when she went to get her stuff, he trapped her inside by blocking the door. She messaged another friend for help. Jerk finally let her out but then immediately jumped into her vehicle so she couldn't leave. It wasn't until our mutual friend showed up and ordered him to get out that he finally did. She was afraid to call the cops bc she thought he might attack her and try to take her phone away. He actually has some of my stuff over there (I brought over supplies to do some painting for them) and is refusing to let me have it back. Probably going to need to involve the police. Anyway, I love that OP took all of their own stuff so the roommates can see just how "little" they contributed. I wish there was an update on how the roommates reacted. Story6: Man, they got 2 days in the hospital after a c-section? Here they kick women out the very next day. Yeah, its sad that the woman still wanted to make other women suffer & that the government had to step in.
I feel like the last story, she knew how bad it was for the 2-day policy, and rather than change it, decided to be vindictive and thought "if I had to experience, I'll make others experience it!" as some sort of revenge.
Wife was looking at new cars a few years ago. We were looking at one brand and there were no prices on them so we found a salesman and asked. He said "if you need to ask, maybe (this brand) isn't for you". We left instantly. Moron screwed himself out of a cash sale.
2:22 You should ALWAYS test drive every car you consider buying, even if you've test drove the same model.. You should test drive the specific car you're buying, if you find a car you like and say "but I'd like it in red" and dealer says "I have one, exactly the same but red right here on the lot", TEST DRIVE IT.
4th story: anybody remember those tshirts that look like suits? Bow ties and everything? Get a hoodie eith thw same pattern, OP. Business attire while also being comfortable, and if its a good hoodie, it wont wear out as fast. I know someone who could probably make it for you, too
Hysterical!! I was fantasizing about cheap family friendly weddings..potluck and 9pm PJ party and I wondered where I'd find tux PJs LOL. Guys really love those two in one look. XooX
Story 3: I'll bet you anything that due to corporate policy, the Bossman would have gotten in trouble for refunding the present as it had no relation to work but probably had tons of funds for travel given the situation. His only problem was not explaining that clearly enough to the OP.
What is it with companies thinking a skirt is the only business dress a woman can wear? Aren't we way past the point where women can't wear pants? I mean... Pantsuits suits are not better suited for hands on tech support but pants, blouse and, depending on the temperature, a blazer are perfectly professional attire.
I'm a big fan of Steve Lukather (Toto guitarist and session player). He was grunge when grunge wasn't cool. He made some big money when he was barely an adult and wanted a BMW. The dealer wouldn't even let him test drive it, because he "couldn't afford it." He drove to another dealer and they sold him the car. He drove it back to the original dealer to shove it in his face, lol.
NEVER tell the dealer you are paying cash or have outside financing... Always try to figure a price and NOT monthly payment prices. Say you will negotiate overall price, then we can talk monthly payments. Once you settle on a price. THEN you tell them you are paying with cash or have outside financing.
While I am sure the BMW dealer hated losing the sale, losing a 45k sale for a bmw dealership is nothing . For a BMW , that is on the low end of their car selection. Also never heard of a dealership forcing financing
first and second story love it cause cleanly when Dealer try get you to sign a payment, they get a cut from it and love in both story both OP said no especially second story when OP grandma drove to the first dealership and was like here my new car, and third story: it alway that one higher up that try be cheap and since OP manager was ok paid him, that the VIP was like no, that tell you the VIp and other like ViP actually don't know what going on in the company and they find the cheap way to cut cost and they learn the hard way and hope the VIP got fired or in trouble
I went home 2 days after my c-section, no pain killers and took care of my baby and house work just fine. I guess we're all built different but the recovery from the surgery was easier and less painful than the vaginal birth i had with my first child.
In that last story she could pay someone else to look after the kids. Between that and the crazy amount of Oxytocin in her system she probably deluded herself into thinking it wasn't too bad. For her to have that kind of job her denial and condescension levels would already be through the roof!!
Regarding the first two stories: New cars are typically sold at a razor-thin profit margin, if not at a loss. Interesting from financing is where all the money comes from.
I love it when the older generation transforms their “Frick, I’m old energy” into “F@c$ you! You are not worth wasting the rest of my short time on earth” energy.
My parents and brother were looking for a new car for him since my dad wanted him to have a little better car since he was at college and my dad wasn’t there to work on the car or fix it if something happened (he had a 2011 Malibu, so it wasn’t a bad car, they just wanted a newer one). They were at this one dealership and they found a car and price they liked, but then when they tried paying cash for it the salesman tried to increase the price from what it was, cuz he wouldn’t be making as much money himself if they paid cash compared to financing it. So they left. They also left one dealership because the salesman refused to negotiate at all for any car. They left much quicker for that one.
ha i had a similar experience to story 1 grandma was willing to buy a new car and had the money to pay it off immediatly in cold hard cash but the dealership wanted to milk her for money and said the only way to get a car there was via regular payments. so we went somwhere else and got a car from a place that accepted cash up front.
Story 5 (Health Insurance): Good ol' fashioned "Rules for thee, not for me". And the fact that it took the GOVERNMENT stepping in for the policy to be taken out really shows how much of a Karen she is.
Yup, you also see it a lot with the anti-abortion crowd, if they need to get an abortion it's totally fine because it's completely different when they do it vs the people they scream at for doing it.
"But the Government Stepping in is SoCialiSM!!!!!" The Whole for profit medical industry is a joke that needs to dissapear
Another good reason for single payer health care. Medicare has a 3% overhead and no profit margin to meet or shareholders to pay.
Absolutely. Karen no doubt always assumed she could 'bend' the rules if SHE needed it. While getting a big promotion for screwing over every other woman in that position.
Meanwhile the state of California had to step in because you only got 24 hrs for a vaginal delivery and 48 for c-section, and a few Bay Area hospitals had sent mother ms home who died. One wasn't fully stable, but her insurance wouldn't budge and she died at home.
The level of petty the Grandma had in the second story for her to show her new car to salesmen is something to aspire to
that just translates to:
"You had your chance and you failed."
-Patrick Star
Granny just has more balls than you
Granny don't play. The elderly are magical in their levels of "out of fucks to give"
@@BR4IN1N4J4R fr
Yes she was like Abby price is worth it rub it in his face I love it I I wish my grandma would have been like this
That last story was like if, in A Christmas Carol, Scrooge went through all the ghosts only to not change a damn thing except for repossessing Tiny Tim’s cane and telling him to walk it off
I just spit my coffee across the table thanks 😂😂😂
The grandma driving the new car to the previous dealership just to show the arrogant salesman her car is just so petty. It's just pure petty revenge!
I love stories like this. There was some about an older woman and an older guy [two different]. One the old lady was begin ignored and they kept talking to her husband, so she left the dealership and bought a Lincoln instead and drove it back to tell them off. The other the guy was a farmer, but loaded, showed up dressed as a farmer, everyone ignores him. He goes elsewhere and gets nice cars, cleans up, dresses up, goes back and everyone wants his business at Dealership 1 and he rubs in their faces that they ignored him earlier so he was going to use the superior dealership for the same kind of car.
Giving me Pretty Woman vibes
"Big mistake! HUGE!"
Salesman: “Either in-house or leave”
Parents: “We’ll get a no sale sign for you”
Never make it difficult for people to give you money. Why is this such a hard concept?
@@NXTangl The dealership doesn't make as near as much money on direct sales as it does on interest payments.
My friend is legitimately is struggling to find a car and was like "I don't want to deal with them lying or messing with me" and the grandma in the one story and the parents in the other did 100% what I told him to do: Just leave and go elsewhere
They should make it illegal to refuse check payments. In fact, once they determine the total out the door pricing, they should mandate the price is good for financing or check payment.
I actually had a similar but not quite situation when I bought the car I have now. I spent days negotiating a price. I was more interested in an "out the door" price than a "how much per month" price. Once I got the price negotiated, I get pre-approved for that much money through my bank at a pretty good interest rate. So they take longer than is really necessary at the dealership. I think the sales guy was confused that I was talking more about "How much?" than "How much per month?". They told me that in order to get the price I negotiated, I *had to* use their in-house financing. They told me that *at the dealership*. We almost left right then. The dealership also wanted nearly twice the interest rate my bank quoted me.
Anyway, we almost walked away in the "finance" department, too. But I think the finance manager knew what we were doing, because he asked us *not* to pay the car off for 6 months (they wanted to put us on a 72 month note). We fake agreed (we didn't have the money to pay it off that quickly anyway), though I did pay it off in a year. I don't know what the difference is/was in interest that I would have paid, but I like to think I "saved" myself a little money that way.
For the last story, I bet the reason why she didn't change the rules after was now that she had been forced to go through it herself and she knew how bad it was, she felt justified in making sure everyone else was forced to go through the same ordeal as well. The thought of trying to make sure other people didn't suffer like she did probably never even crossed her mind, just "I did it, so now you need to too"
Oh, this is definitely it. It's literally the same logic that boomers use to justify the shitty policies like not raising the minimum wage or forgiving student loans or socialized healthcare in the US. "We didn't get free handouts and made it, so neither should you! Just work harder!". Like to me... I dunno, I just feel like it's the duty of the previous generation to make life better and easier for the next, not demand things be fair and equal(despite vastly different economic circumstances).
“I suffered so now you must suffer” is the reason I give for sending like cursed memes and shit. Applying it to things like *Health Care* is disgusting.
that way of thinking is why america sucks right now
Story 4 (Moving Out): Some people never truly realize how much someone contributed until that someone leaves and takes all their stuff with them.
Should've just kept their mouths shut and let OP stay
Agreed.
At the very least, they really should have put on their big-girl pants and had a civil conversation with OP about the situation and worked out a proper resolution.
Granted, then we would not have gotten to hear about how OP made these buttholes pay for their buttholery, so I suppose either way it worked out (and OP landed on their feet so it really did work out well for OP too).
The landlady needs to be looked at too, what landlady/landlord gives their tenants the right to kick out another paying tenant without talking to that tenant first? Scummy landlady
fr tho.
Literally the only one I feel bad about in that situation is the cat. Cats don't do well with drastic, abrupt changes in their environment, and having all its toys _and_ its safe spot (the cat tree) taken away was probably awful for the poor thing.
Story 3 I was listening and no reading along, so I thought at first "why would the company pay out an £800 refund if the company policy trip is £400?" Then I went back and read with rSlash and realised it was £4k and it was a misspeak lol, cost the company 5 times more than just refunding
I thought I misheard and just assumed my mind forgot a zero
@@emanfilbert9297 my mind heard a zero that wasn't there.
Came to say this, lol
Will a manager/boss never realize that when an employee asks for something in writing, it can't be good.
The ones who do never end up on this subreddit.
They'll probably realize it around the same time they realize you should never mess with the IT squad... so, probably somewhere around never.
If they ever do then this Subreddit wouldn't be around or at least half it's stories. I seriously doubt they will. Or when they do it's too that to turn back.
I absolutely love the grandma from the 2nd dealership story like "hey there jackass check out granny's new ride"
"You can't ride this," Granny points at the car, "Or this," and Granny slaps her butt. "Good DAY, sir."
@@BronzeDragon133 *does burnout like a boss and heads home*
@@BronzeDragon133 Granny: *Dumps clutch and lights up the tires.*
@@chriscarpenter3370 damn it, you beat me to it
Story 3: After working closely with multiple executives, it sounds like they wanted you to get your birthday present and made up some corporate mumbo gumbo to keep you from staying. Most divisions like that have a huge budget and it probably came out of their potential bonus. Either that or they are just an idiot
I was coming to say just this. The VP wanted him to go but had to sound like a dick, so he wouldn't get in trouble or hoped that OP would do the right thing and go.
i was so confused about your comment until i went back to actually look at the video instead of just listening to it, lol
cause when R/Slash mis-spoke and said it cost them £400 instead of £4,000 i though th company was just being frugal
Sometimes organisations have to obey rules and policies regarding reasons for payouts, and are ready to be hit with an occasional big payout for certain instances rather than changing a rule which is generally beneficial for them, or avoiding a bigger damage for breaking rules they could be punished for breaking. Don't know if that applies to story 3 or not.
I worked for multiple car dealerships.
It's the manager that forces the sales people into doing the whole " you must finance here" because they can hold 2-3% points and sell warranties and make thousands on the back end
Well sure but you aren't going to build a customer relationship by doing what they are doing to cash buyers. If you build a relationship by just letting it go, that has a much higher chance of turning into what they want in the future than this way does.
I purchased my last car sight unseen & had it shipped across the country from Florida to Minnesota. I paid in full by wire transfer out of my checking. It was very easy & there was no hassle at all. Now I have positive feelings about that interaction as I did it a few months after my husband was killed in a car accident so I was never going to spend time arguing with someone. I'd have just moved on to somewhere else & known to NEVER shop there again. Now when I buy another car (if I choose financing or not), I'm calling them first to see what they have available. I also recommend them to friends when I got asked about my car (unusual car for my area at the time. Now it isn't) & I know at least 2 of them have used their financing services. I just refuse to waste my valuable time arguing with someone but I won't forget if you try make me do that.
That last story reminds me of the first issue I had with my store manager. I work at a grocery store where I sometimes have to do carts and bottle room (bottle and can returns) well at the time I was also responsible for the online pick up orders and I was all alone on a Saturday, our second busiest day. So between online pick up and bottle room carts suffered a bit. As soon as I was caught up on both I started bringing in carts and was called to the office. I went in and long story short “carts take priority” so after online pick ups were done for the morning I ignored the bottle room completely. Got called back in yelled at about the bottle room and threw his words back in his face. He never pulled that again
IT lady’s story resonated so much with me, although I don’t work in IT. I too used to have a massive amount of responsibilities, poor pay and ridiculously incompetent or lazy managers who basically offloaded their work onto their subordinates and didn’t even have the decency to be grateful or respectful when we - foolishly seeking to help the company - brought up problems with their ignorantly stupid plans - even when paired with solutions. ‘Let’s give it a try and see how it goes’ is the mating call of the egomaniac who is best left to burn in the flames of their own failure. Once you have their stupid in writing, of course.
This is why I left IT and moved to the Quality Control department. I now get to be the one who takes the stupid that's in writing and burn somebody with it. Nicely, of course, but when I burn somebody with it, you know you've been burned.
Karen must be one of those "You're not a real mom if you had a C section" types
Karen: I know that's a major surgery, but you can't have 4 days to recover
Also Karen: But I'm in so much pain!! This is inhuman, you can't send me home yet!!!!
And she STILL doesn't change that stupid policy. Oh, the irony.
to change that policy is to admit that she was wrong. someone that heartless could never, they would rather die.
@@H-to-O brutal.
"Health insurance isn't supposed to be convenient" LITERALLY YES IT IS!!!
How is that sentence not immediately followed by a lawsuit and a warrent for arrest? Something About that seems completely and utterly illegal to me
DAMN I wish OP had thrown those words back at her when she was protesting she was in no condition to go home!
Yes, Yes, it is!
You are so right Suave!
"You should have thought of that, when you were still a kid!" Some say
This is not fraud, this is straight up barbaric. In most countries outside the United States, not only do you get time to recover, you get maternity and paternity leave, because the baby is extremely vulnerable, especially without the mother being present, but not in the States, because kids are considered a nuisance there, I guess. You just gave birth and are barely able to move? Get back to work, you peasant! **whiplash noises**
The last story reminds me of something that happened to my step mom when she needed a c-section to give birth to my half-sister. Before I begin, I need to give everyone in the San Berardino area a PSA: Redlands Community Hospital SUCKS. If you can, go to Loma Linda instead.
Moving on, my step mom had the displeasure of getting her c-section done at Redlands. Partially because that was the closest hospital, partially because she worked for the smaller attached pharmacy as a nurse. After she was done, there was literally no color in her face, and she had no strength. My dad was very obviously concerned, and my then 7 year old step sister was freaked out to the point of crying because she was scared "Mommy was gonna die." Despite this, her doctor, who I still wish the absolute worst in life, was insisting "Whelp she looks fine to me. You and your baby can go home today." He was trying to discharge her from the hospital IMMEDIATELY. It took my dad channeling his inner Karen the way he can only do inside a medical office to yell and throw a fit and demand her doctor use his goddamn eyes for the doctor to take a second look at her. She was hemorrhaging. If she went home, she would have 100% died. See, they both wanted to try for a third kid someday, but now they can't because they're almost positive that a third pregnancy will kill her.
So yeah, my fellow Southern Californians, if this is how Redlands Community Hospital treats their employees, how do you think they'll treat you???
they can get sued for negligence big time with that kind of practice. what greedy fucks
Story 5: I guarantee the Karen had a lot of thoughts and feelings after her visit. But knowing the type it was all rage and 'betrayal' that OP wouldn't do that one tiny (fraudulent) act to get her the the extra days she needed. Every ounce of rage and pain she felt going home after two days was turned to OP. Because the system works as she designed it. It works for 'the right people' who know 'the right words' to put in the charts, and F anyone who isn't in the know. She left knowing 'this isn't a bug ,it's a feature' but OP wasn't willing to do 'their part'.
i one hundred percent believe that is what that bitch was thinking.
I love the grandma story when she went to the second dealership that had to be the easiest sale that dealership ever made. And good for grandma for driving it right back to the first dealership.
"Health insurance isn't meant to be convenient" Ma'am, the point of health insurance is to make getting medical attention more convenient
The insurance lady: She didn’t only lay in the bed she made for herself. She made the beds for a lot of women before that, and now she has to lay in it too… And now, for some reason, thinks she deserves to refuse to go through what she made them suffer. Anyone feels sorry for her? If so, raise your hand.
Last Story: but...health care is supposed to be convenient. She didnt even change it herself after experiencing it. She's an awful person
Last story: I'm currently 17 weeks with twins myself, and we are planning a C-section (I have a complication that would make regular birth excruciating for me and dangerous for babies).
I dread to think that I'd HAVE to leave after just 2 days if my doctor said I needed longer. My doctor advised 2-3 days MINIMUM, and I've never had surgery before so I have no idea what will happen.
That health insurance woman is my *worst nightmare*. I'm glad California did something about that policy. And I'm also glad I'm not in California anymore.
I'm always down for a story about a sassy, petty grandma dishing out some well deserved revenge
Humble pie at it's best.
Does anyone else like these videos before even watching it because of how much you love Dabney?
Dabney is a really cool guy
Just something about them
Yes I just assume they're going to be good because of how good his videos have been in the past.
Yeah. I'd rather here a real voice that can emote then the ones where a digital voice stumbles through slang words. And hearing his opinion on the various stories is always interesting. AND FREAKING YUGO! No one else does puppy bloopers. Cherry on top. Love you, Dabney! ❤❤❤
only all the time
This channel has changed my life. Malicious compliance sometimes works better than just getting upset.
As someone who works in insurance that last story made me mad. Yes insurance IS supposed to be convenient. It's supposed to give you ASSURANCE that some if not all of your medical bills will be covered. It insures that you'll be okay Financially. It is by far not a perfect system but that's what it's meant to do. And people like her are the reason insurance can really suck for people. My company follows CMS guidelines which in itself can be restrictive but at least it's a federal standard and were not going around making our own decisions to make things hard for members. Whenever getting insurance make sure to ask if they follow CMS guidelines for this exact reason.
Your boss: "NO EXCEPTIONS!"
Also your boss: "WHY ARENT YOU MAKING AN EXCEPTION?!"
First Story: The sales rep did tell them if they didn’t have what they deemed was necessary they could leave. Well, they did just that and went to a differend dealership
Comment: Damn, Grandma was a different kind of petty 😂. She didn’t evebn bother to negotiate a better price; she paid and drove the new car to the other dealership to flex
Second Story: So instead of paying OP a small amount of money, they had to pay OP money in the thousands because the VP of IT was being difficult. Some people need to think before they act
Third Story: I should be a major red flag when someone ask for something in writing. This usually means that what is being asked/ordered will be a terrible idea. As OP's boss's boss soon found out with asking OP to block the access of everyone with no exceptions
Fourth Story: Well it seems like OP contributed a lot towards the apartment since a majority of the stuff in there belonged to OP. Well they got what they wanted with conditions lol. I wish OP provided the reactions
Fifth Story: Wow thats very ironic that she refused to leave after the C-section. She now knows how the other patients felt when they had to be discharged in 2 days after this. I can’t stand greedy people
I had a c section last year and can 100% confirm that being kicked out of the hospital on day two would have been completely insane. I could barely shuffle around at that point and probably wouldn’t have been able to physically leave the building without collapsing, let alone care for my son without help. I was in the hospital for five days, which is the bare minimum Japan will allow after a c-section (they’d rather you stay a full week) and I’m still wrangling with my US health insurer about it. They haven’t denied my claim, they’re just kind of ghosting me. 😤
Grandma in that 2nd story is my kind of petty. Won't let me buy from you? Fine. How do you like my new car from a DIFFERENT place? Like- when will car salesmen realize that people have options!
These reddit videos have taken over my life (in a good way)
It's R/Slash.
I mean rSlash. It's confusing
Actual. Now I think about it. Your right. I'm an idiot.
I have a similar story but not a car. My grandfather was a very successful businessman but after retiring never dressed like one. Usually wore overalls and an old shirt everywhere but church. For his 50th anniversary he decided to buy my grandmother a “tennis bracelet” (yeah this is in the 80s). Fir those who aren’t familiar with that fashion item, they were wide jeweled bracelets, in this case the jewels being diamond and sapphires with a band of gold. At that time the cost was around $10,000. I and my sister took him went to a good (we thought) jeweler. My sister and I wandered away to look at other items and my sister said “be quiet I think they’re talking about grandpa”. Sure enough the clerks were giggling and whispering about the “crazy old coot who thinks he’s going to buy something here. Maybe we’ll sell him a shopping bag.”
My sister then asked a clerk for some assurance. She’s dressed up and looks like someone who would definitely shop there(reality was she was a broke student ) and they fell all over themselves to help her and my grandfather sat patiently , completely ignored. After wasting their time and asking for many items to be shown she walked to my grandfather, asked for his wallet, took it to the clerks who by now are quite stunned and showed them the cash (enough to buy the bracket), along with his AmEx (exclusive at the time), and the business card for his well known company. Nowadays that would be a foolish thing to do but thing to do but times were different and we were in a jewelry store with security entrances.
She cussed them all out and told them we’d be going to their competitor. The manager tried to back pedal and say he’d been so quiet they hadn’t seen him but my sister just quoted back to her the remark about selling him a paper bag. She then told me we’re leaving (I did not question it) and got my rather confused grandfather (he hadn’t heard the clerks he just heard his granddaughter screaming at them) and we left. We never told him what happened just that they weren’t a good store. My grandmother got her bracelet.
I think you mean the manager tried to back pedal, not back order.
@@kranberry3318 yup. Thank you autocorrect
That last story is THE reason why I hate American health insurance companies: they make bank on the misery of others. They make extra cash on cases (like my mom) in states that have anti-euthanasia laws. And yes, I am using my mom as an example of this because she died a few years ago from cancer, and despite cancer sucking in general her case extra sucked because this cancer (lung cancer, btw) grew so big that it broke 3 ribs on her back. She needed high doses of opium to not feel any pain. BUT! That also meant that when she was not fully conscious but in pain, she was so heavily medicated that she was barely able to recognize her own family around her! Terminal. Painful. Cancer. In Texas. You can bet your backside that Hospice and the Medical Industry was making a shit-ton of money on her dying months. -.-
I could go on and on about this, but better linguists and philosophers have already been on that soapbox. One of them even technically died there while making people laugh (R.I.P. George Carlin). Speaking of, time for me to go watch more of his videos now.
Malicious compliance is something I will always savour... also, too bad for that BMW dealership. Dealerships make a good chunk of their money through financing, but trying to force a customer to use their financing is unacceptable. Same with talking smack about other brands. It's poor taste to insult other brands and way better to say yours does things better.
#4: I was a security systems administrator for a large NYC hospital. I was responsible for installation, maintenance and repair of all the security systems. This entailed climbing into ceilings, running cables, installing cameras, card access control. My boss wanted me to wear a suit and tie as I am an "administrator". Well after ruining several dress shirts and pants, I went to wearing work jeans and a tee or polo shirt. My boss pitched a fit about "unacceptable dress." I told him if he wants me in a suit and tie then I won't do installs & service; or he can reimburse me EVERY TIME I damage dress pants and dress shirts.
My morning literally isn't complete until I watch my daily RSlash video ❤️
Some car buying tips: Never tell the dealer you're paying cash. Ever since fair market value of a car became a quick Google search away, dealerships had to alter their tactics. They can't overprice a car because you'll know, so they try to get you on some brutal interest rates in the finance department. If you say you're paying cash, they know they can't negotiate interest rates, so you lose your leverage on negotiating the base cost. Tell them you haven't decided on your financing yet, do your haggling, and AFTER you've agreed on a price in writing tell them you're paying cash.
If you do need to finance, don't let them talk you into low monthly payments, because low monthly payments equals long term loans. "Oh it's only $300 a month for 84 months," keep in mind that 84 months is 7 YEARS. If you can't afford the payments on a 3-year loan, the car is too expensive for you. Look for another car.
See, the thing is in the last story...she DIDN'T go "oh, this is still a fine policy, keep it as it is".
She went "well, the policy is really inconvenient for my circumstances, so commit fraud on my behalf to make me an exception to my own rules"
Last story: Oh no no no, some people would MUCH rather die on a hill, rather than even suggest the possibility that they made a mistake
Manager: "No exceptions!"
Me: "Oh, this is gonna be good." 🍿
“Health insurance is not suppose to be convenient” uh… that’s EXACTLY what it’s supposed to be! What the hell?!
The more I read more I think it's more "pay us to get told "no" and pay double anyway" than "pay us for coverage"
For-profit health insurance is the business of providing as few benefits as they can get away with, while charging as much as they can get away with. Benefits are expenses (from the company's POV), so the fewer they pay out on the better their bottom line is. That's why their claims processes are always so messy and service reps generally unhelpful. If you've ever seen "The Incredibles", that scene where the dad character gets fired for helping people too much is sadly pretty realistic.
I've had two c sections and both times I could not wait to leave the hospital lol. There is no resting or sleep when someone comes in your room every two hours ALL NIGHT LONG and flips on lights and pushing on a very painful abdomen. I feel like without complications 4 days would be torture.
No C sections here..1) vacuum extraction after 12 hours labour 2 hour pushing.. 2) 12 hours normal, 3) OmG 5 hours so easy and the first live birth my mom saw. The only one
went home the next day each time.
MOM FLIPPED!! " l was in the hospital for 10 days with each of you 6!" IAM still shocked! XooX
As a retired nurse, I got so much satisfaction from that. I HATE micro management and asshole jumped up narcissistic people like that who made my job harder
The last story further reinforces my belief that everyone who works in insurance is pure evil.
health insurance is nothing but a pure scam and the number one reason why healthcare in america is so expensive. people are dying right now of treatable illnesses because they can't afford healthcare, but the thing is, a lot of them have health insurance that they have invested into thousands if not millions of dollars already! money that could be used to pay for their healthcare, but they can't get that healthcare because the insurance company denies them coverage. its your fucking money, and your fucking health and your fucking doctor says you need this treatment and some dude who has never had medical training says no and boom. no treatment for you! universal healthcare right the fuck now please! if you won't vote for it because "how dare this poor person get healthcare off of my dime!" then do it for the thousands of dollars you will save when you no longer need to pay the insurance company each month. you'll still get your healthcare, at the same or more likely higher level, and it will be much cheaper.
*Story 2 OP:* That grandma is a SAVAGE 😂
I think that VP in the third story was actually _helping_ OP on purpose. The ethical bit is a big hint to that. I'm _certain_ he knew what he was going to end up paying for. lol I think it was even an off-the-books bonus of sorts for OP working so hard.
I love the last story. The health insurance lady became a victim of her own idiotic policy.
The last story is hilarious! Just desserts! It would be even funnier if her company found out her hypocrisy or she ended in jail for fraud.
God I wish
With the last story I think it was less of an "even though I experienced how awful the policy I made is I'm still going to keep it because it wasn't that bad" situation it's more of a "Well I suffered so now everyone else has to suffer"
OB-GYN story: I ran into that horrible policy with my first child. I inherited a condition which made a full-term baby’s head too large to fit through the bones of my pelvis, so this made a c-section mandatory. Always.
I was shocked when they discharged me after barely more than 24 hours. As I was packing to go home, one of the nurses tipped me off to something important: after abdominal surgery, they wouldn’t discharge the patient until after the patient had a bowel movement. I don’t know whether it was due to the anesthesia stopping the muscle movement in the intestines or some other factor. But it was a rule.
So that is how I got a three day stay with my second child. (I couldn’t stretch it any further or they would have given me a laxative to move things along.)
I’m passing this tip along to anyone facing labor and delivery: if you end up having a c-section, do your best to hide any 💩 until you are ready to go home. But you can only stretch this so far.
Do any of your other past stories have updates?
You choose a lot of unfinished stories, and your story telling keeps me and my Mom, VERY invested 😭
Anyway love your stories!!
Check out Mark Narrations! He is usually up to date with stories and even reads comments under the stories. And when it comes to AITA stories....he does better ratings
Dabney doesn't update on older stories. The closest you can get to an update is when he does BoRU edition.
Some stories are worth following up on. I have seen some comments requesting him to provide original story links in the video description so that interesting stories are easyu to follow-up on; I have commented the same on multiple occasions. But I suppose Dabney missed reading those requests.
@@hoper1294 uuuuuu I will do that!!!! Cuz we also listen to Lost Genre and he basically always chooses stories with updates. I will add Mark to our list. Thank you!!!
@@vivekpatankar oh darn jajaja oh well, I'll break the news to my Mom. She really likes listening to Dabney but at the end she's always "no update?!?" 🤣🤣
@@vivekpatankar It is sad that he is one of the "best" reddit reads channels and yet he got super lazy with his success... He use to provide links and would try and cover updates if available at the time in his older videos... Once he saw that he just has to pump out a new video everyday and not put any real thought into it that became his norm... He doesn't care and I'm losing interest in his channel because others do it better... I like when channels cover updates, extra info, and top comments because it gives a full story to comment on but here you have to hope someone in the comments knows about the update and shares it there. This of course defeats the purpose of listening to these stories if I have to track down and read the rest...
What don't people get of "I want that in writing." being a massive red flag for "You are going to regret that decision and I'm going to fully blame you for it. Are you doubly sure you want to do this?"
Back in June, I had an emergency C-section for my twins because my organs were failing due to HELLP Syndrome. I had to be hooked to a magnesium drip for 24 hours, I needed blood because I lost a lot of blood during the procedure, I almost died. I couldn't walk until Day 3 because I was a seizure risk, and barely was able to function after discharge on Day 4.
That policy that the health insurance VP introduced and supported would have literally gotten me killed. I don't normally wish suffering on others, but I'm glad she felt the effects of her actions. I'm just angry that she didn't have the empathy to change it herself.
Yes, I know I commented before - but the actual experience was even worse than I dreaded, and I had to share.
Story 1 - If OPs parents looked into it all they may have found the dealership broke some law, for one they REFUSED what can be viewed as legal tender, while a personal check might not be legal tender, a check that is from the bank is effectively legal tender since it is pretty much like walking in with a suitcase full of cash. OPs parents could also have screwed them over much more by complaining to the car company they represented, because you can bet such BS wouldnt have washed higher up if pre-approval was already involved. Dealerships are there to move cares, not make 3rd party deals with finance sharks.
Rslash still doesn’t understand how greedy humans are especially corporate humans. I have to applaud him it means he still struggles to get into the toxic mindset these horrible people have.
the easiest way to see how these people think is to enter what i call the "monopoly" mindset. you want to win so you need to find the best way to make your opponents pay you the most money as soon as possible. its all about how to make the most money as fast as you can. you don't want to spend a penny more then you can get away with. its all about winning.
I almost died because my insurance made me wait 2 weeks for insulin. My stockpile got me to 12 days and I had to go over 24 hours without insulin. I still think I have some kind of damage from that day because complications got a lot more common and harsh for just having high blood sugar.
The system is designed for you and others with long-term conditions to die. It costs too much money to keep you alive. Healthcare providers are in the business of making money, not providing healthcare.
The way health care and insurance BS affects diabetics is disgusting. I’m so sorry you had to suffer because of something so stupid.
@@agentzapdos4960 It's not even expensive for them. It costs about 20 to 30$ to manufacture insulin, but without insurance it's hundreds of dollars. The only thing you can get for a comparable price is the "medium term" insulin at Walmart that you have to change your life around for. Good luck if you haven't switched insulins before.
It's just expensive because of things like pumps and CGMs, which are, in my opinion and experience, necessary to live a semi-normal life without having to worry about it constantly.
Thank you for being supportive, I can't wait for a day when healthcare is better.
@@kranberry3318 Thank you for your support, I appreciate it.
Two days after a c-section is all I got with my second and third. Kind of scary-my second spit up while on her back the first day and I couldn't sit up far enough to pick her up and could only reach her enough to grab her blankets and tip her on her side. luckily the nurses were able to get there fast and she was ok, but that could have gone really wrong if it had happened at home the next day and I didn't have family to help.
"I didn't reach where I am in corporate American by having empathy for other human beings"
Only two days of rest after getting cut in half? What crazy land you live in? My wife stayed in hospital for 5 days if I recall. And then had another few days of bedrest at home.
First story: My good friend owns a licensed dealership. (Think Toyota, Ford, Chevrolet, etc., as opposed to a used car dealership, though he has one of those attached to his dealership too.) About four years ago they started in house financing, but they would rather make a sale with outside financing than brow beat a person into using their financing. Went in a couple years ago to buy a car from him, and it was the only time I would have told the sales rep that I was paying cash. They want to finance you because they can hit you on the back end with interest.
Story 1: My parents had a similar incident happen. Not with a car, but with a bass boat. The bass boat we had since I was just a baby (I'm almost 30) was getting old, with parts becoming increasingly hard to find. To illustrate the point, one of the last couple years that we had it, one of the parts (I think it was the ignition switch or a piece of the motor) went bad. The guys servicing the boat couldn't find anything on a regional search and had to execute a nationwide search and finally found a replacement part in Alabama (we live in Illinois, more specifically, northwest of Chicago).
Well, every year, we go to Bass Pro Shops (the closest one being in Gurnee) to renew our fishing licenses and get more fishing gear (lures, fishing line, bait, etc.). About ten or so years ago, when we walked into the store, my mother turned to my father and said, "Let's buy a new bass boat." It took my father completely by surprise, as he never expected her to say that. So they went to a salesman and started talking about trade-ins, price, etc.
Within five minutes, the salesman blew the sale, citing "corporate policy." He said that "corporate policy" meant that they didn't accept trade-ins on boats more than ten years old, and even if they did, "corporate policy" wouldn't allow my parents to trade it in for more than a certain dollar amount, and "corporate policy" meant that they couldn't discount the sticker price of a boat on their sales floor by more than $1000, even if the blue book value of the boat was even lower than the aforementioned sticker price with the $1000 discount included.
Absolutely fed up with the salesman and his "corporate policy," my father stood up, told the salesman that he was ready to sign on the dotted line right then and there, but because the salesman blew the sale, my father would take his business to an independent Tracker dealer. A year or so later, my father and I were in the Bass Pro Shops again, and met the manager of the boat sales department, and recounted that story to him.
The manager was very apologetic about it, and even if he couldn't take the boat himself, he was far more helpful than his subordinate (whom he said was more than likely fired for blowing too many sales by citing "corporate policy"), and even pulled out his blue book and showed how much our old boat was valued, and gave us options as to where we could go to trade it in for a new one.
So we found an independent Tracker dealer in Southwestern Wisconsin, who has been very good to us. We traded in our old boat with no problems, bought a new one, and every winter, we have them winterize and store the boat. None of that "corporate policy" B.S. getting in the way of making the customer happy. And they made a $50,000+ sale on a new bass boat, while Bass Pro Shops lost out, because of "corporate policy.'
So were the corporate policies not real? Were they flexible and possible to avoid so the sales guy could’ve made the sale if he were better at the job? I don’t understand how following policy is a fatal flaw.
@@kranberry3318 Oh, they were real, as the sales manager confirmed. But it was more the salesman's attitude about it than anything else that blew the sale.
As I said, the manager was willing to look at the trade-in value for our boat and give us options to sell it elsewhere. The original salesman never refused to do that.
Plus, Illinois is an at-will employment state, and since Bass Pro Shops is not unionized, they could fire him for any reason, or no reason at all.
So my guess is he blew too many sales because he had a bad attitude with customers while citing corporate policy, and that's why they likely canned him.
I'm not saying the customer is always right, but if you drive away enough potential customers, it brings down the store's reputation and your own work performance.
Heck, look at GameStop. They're constantly trying to get customers to buy extended warranties and memberships, because they're graded on how many of those they sell.
If they don't sell enough of those warranties or memberships, never mind the games or consoles themselves, it can reflect negatively on the worker, and they can get fired.
In fact, I interviewed for them once for a job, and the managers told me flat-out that their main business was selling memberships, not games. Same with Barnes & Noble.
What does that say about a company when their main product is basically a subscription service and not a physical object, and if you don't sell enough subscriptions, you can get fired?
I had twins years ago--one natural, the other a C-section (little sister did NOT want to turn around)--and in our state, there's a three day stay after a C-section. Despite having to go through both, by the end of day 2, I was BEGGING them to let me go home (they insisted I stay for three, just in case). But, that was me with my partner, no complications, and while the twins were early (5 weeks), they were both very healthy. I know there are some moms who want to stick around in the hospital for as long as possible to get all the help they can, but honestly, I just wanted to be home. People should have that option--not to stay indefinitely, but to stay long enough to make sure everyone is on an even keel.
Read the roommate story on best of redditor updates.The top comment was this.
I love it when people seem to forget that their house is stocked with the person they're abusing's stuff.
Either that or they were stupid enough to think she'd just leave all her furniture if they shouted loud enough.
Or OP did something truly egregious and deserved to be kicked out. You don't just scream at someone you hate them without something inciting that hatred.
“Congrats to everyone who is early and who found this comment”🥶
Story 5: I did this also while I was in college. My roommate started to get me expaild and when they didn't work she turned 2 of the other 3 against me. I was so upset cause they were my friends and they literally made me out to be the bad guy. Only thing is, I am very talkative when I'm upset and stressed so a good amount of the students knew the truth an even the Dean of students was on my side.
I was able to move into another dorm room for the last 3 months of college. I took everything. Cleaning supplies, dishes, silverware, pots, pans, spices, food, my PS3, my small table, the broom and pot. Everything.
Last story: You’d think it would change her view, but no. This is just what happens when people completely lack empathy. Even if they experience the problem themselves, it just doesn’t translate to a necessary thing for other people. They view everyone else as NPCs, not people like themselves.
Scam bots still scamming.
I simply loathe health insurance. I loathe that we have to spend about 20% of our gross income in health insurance premiums for our family for coverage that would bankrupt us if we ever had to go to a hospital. And the last story just makes me furious to know that behind the scenes really are morally bankrupt, assholes perpetuating this disgusting excuse for healthcare access
I too went to a small town car dealer at a town 90 miles away that had been recommended to do great deals. I found a used pickup I liked. I asked about buying it and they wanted to set up financing for the truck. I said no I planned to pay cash for it, and what kind of a deal they would give me for paying cash for the truck. They said they would have to charge me an additional $1,000 for paying cash for it! What? Why should I have to pay an additional thousand dollars for paying cash? They strongly encouraged me to pay the original price, and to accept the financing through the local bank! I refused! That was just unethical! I went to several other dealerships, and explained how the first dealership was going to charge me an additional $1,000 dollars for paying cash for the purchase of the truck! They said they had never heard of such a practice! Unfortunately none of the other dealerships had a truck at the price I was looking for. I ended up buying a Dodge Grand Caravan, that actually has met my needs better than a truck would’ve!
Dayumn. The grandma in the second story is savage.
I heard a story from my CNA Instructor once. She told me that years ago there was a doctor who anytime a patient got kidney stones Would only prescribe like Tylenol or ibuproven. Anyone who has ever had a kidney stone no that those do not cut the pain. Well one day this doctor got a kidney stone himself and was was in massive pain. He wanted The best pain pill he could get on hand. After that the doctor would prescribe the strongest painkiller you could possibly find for his patients. That is something all health care people need to experience. The reason I say that's cause I have been a patient and a healthcare worker.
I had something like that first story. Nothing so expensive… I was looking for a base model Mazda crossover. I communicated with a sales rep and said we’d already secured financing through our credit union. I’d test driven several vehicles and was ready to buy whichever I could find first in blue (this was last March… I really wanted blue but supply in general was iffy. They had one so there you go).
I was led to believe after some negotiation that I just needed to come in and take care of the paperwork. I went in and was promptly placed in an office while my ID and insurance cards were taken to be scanned. Now, I know how this works. Get the card from you, start talking around you, wait it out until you’re tired, gain what they want to gain. But the price was already discussed and I had financing.
So he comes back and starts trying to get me to fill out a credit application. I say I have financing. He tries to press the issue. He gets a manager involved. He tries to offer me a snack (I’d been there maybe 20 minutes). They’re leaning over me, they’re telling me my husband has to come down to sign off on the financing, they’re saying filling out a credit application is their policy… and the whole time I’m texting my husband in a running commentary. We both get fed up with the little head games they’re trying to pull after saying it’s a done deal.
So I got up and asked for my ID back, said I thought we’d had an agreement and that I hadn’t come in to play head games and left. Bought a Hyundai instead. The laugh is… I ended up financing through the Hyundai dealership. They offered a better deal on the loan without trying to force me to submit an application before saying so. It took time but they didn’t gather around me and try to pressure me into things, and they never once said I could only buy if my husband came in to sign off on the loan… even when I was considering doing so through the credit union. Still dunno what that was all about.
And of course, Mazda later (before I bought the Hyundai) tried to sweeten the deal and sell me the car. No dice. Come back in and risk more games and then have to go there for my maintenance package? I think not.
Take this lesson, car sellers (if indeed anyone is still reading)… people hate being pressured. They don’t respond to it anymore, at least, less of us are putting up with it. Once in a while you’ll find a desperate sucker but a lot of us shop before we are out of options and if you don’t treat us with respect, a competitor just might.
Last story was pure karmic justice.
The last story is perfect, the type of revenge I want to see
Grandma with car: our extended family had a similar issue but is even more "in your face." My uncle was looking for a particular make, model, and trim of a car. Finds car at a dealership. Goes to buy car. Apparently salesman doesn't like his haggling prowess and refuses to sell said car to him. Okay then. Uncle goes to a different dealership. Finds a similar car there but not quite what he wants. Does his haggling back and forth for a little while and eventually says, "I know (other dealership) has this car which is exactly what I want but they refused to sell it at this price. Is it possible for y'all to switch out cars and sell that one to me?" (Uncle knows this is the case because he buys and sells cars) "Sure! No problem!" So next day, uncle picks up his car at the second dealership, then drives over to the first dealership and finds the salesman that didn't want to deal with him. Points at car, tells him he bought it from the other dealership, then drives off.
My uncle was very petty, especially when it came to cars.
I told a dealer that I would put most of the price down in cash for a certain model of used truck that was I my price range, and I only needed to finance the last few thousand dollars. They offered me several examples of a different truck for more money by phone and email, and I refused. Then they finally offered me 2 of the correct truck, but they tried to force me to do in-house financing. I went in to test drive the trucks, but I told them no, that I would check with my credit union to see if they could do better. The dealer reduced the rate a little, just to keep me there. I told them "no" again, and I was ready to swear off that dealer for life because they weren't listening. I walked away.
I left and checked with my credit union, who took a couple of days to get back with me because I had zero credit whatsoever. The dealer got antsy, and the salesmen kept leaving voicemails to tempt me back in. I got rejected by my credit union, and I prepped myself to have to bend over for the in-house financing.
When I went back, I didn't tell the dealer I had been rejected. I just acted happy, like I knew it was gonna all go in my favor that day, because I had indeed been in touch with my longtime credit union. Then the salesman gave me a super rate in writing, and that's when I told him that I had actually come there with no other offers that day. He had just dropped the rate again, and substantially, for nothing. The salesman formed a sheepish grin on his face, knowing full well I had just played him. Well, he had played himself.
I paid that 3-year finance plan off early in less than 2 years, and I'm still rocking that truck 8 years later. Great deal for me, all around!
That car sales story reminds of a Raiffeisen bank commercial. The guy who needs the loan is trying to say something and the bank clerk immediately covered his ears with his hands and "PAPAPAPAPAPPAPAAPPAP". The guy looked at him like "WTF?" and said "As I was trying to say I don't..." "PAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPA"
Story1: We had a jackass salesman who promised us the moon pretty much and then reneged on it all. Offered us a price and then came back and said his boss wouldn't let him go that low & it would have to be higher-- without fixing the typhoon damage to it or doing any of the stuff he promised they would do if we bought it. It was over $30k brand new but damaged in the typhoon. We walked out. He called us and said he would go lower and told us to meet at a certain time. We needed to go to that part of town anyway so we went down there & he blew us off. We realized he was trying to see how much we wanted the vehicle so he could get us on the hook and keep jerking us around. We told the manager to tell the guy to pound sand. We went to another dealership and found a better vehicle-- higher end model, less damage, & cheaper than the other one. Salesman didn't give us any crap-- just knocked the price down & guaranteed (in writing) that they would fix the typhoon damage for free & it came with a warranty. Other vehicle was "as is" despite being "new". He later sent us a refund check for like $2k bc the vehicle didn't have one of the features listed. It took a few days for the bank to give us the $ for the downpayment and while we were waiting the other jerk called & said that some people were looking at the vehicle and we better get down there and buy it or they would get it. We said "Then sell it to them". He started to argue and we told him that it didn't matter if it was the best vehicle on the planet, we weren't buying from him bc he was a jerk.
Story2: Some things to watch out for that the dealers will do: They will find an excuse to try to get your keys from you and they will hold onto them and refuse to give them back. They sometimes will take your driver's license when you go for a test drive and refuse to give it back unless you buy from them. I had to threaten to call the police to get my mother's license back at one place. They will make you wait to wear you down. So, if it takes more than an hour or two, just walk. Even if you really want it, tell them you don't have time and leave. Granny driving by the other dealership to rub it in was great!
Story3: Ah, bean counters who end up paying more $. Reminds me of when one of my dad's co-workers was supposed to be compensated for stuff on a trip and they refused to reimburse him for a pair of $1 socks. He ended up fighting them on it and they spent hundreds of $ refusing to reimburse him and then ultimately did, but it cost them a lot more than if they had just reimbursed him in the first place bc they got their lawyers involved. He had an attorney friend who helped him pro bono.
Story4: LOL. Love how OP handled this. I would have insisted that the promise for overtime pay and a raise were put in writing.
Story5: It can be tough in roommate situations and in romantic relationships that break down when one person brought in most of the kitchenware and furniture. One of my friends went through a breakup recently & we're having trouble getting her stuff bac bc her ex immediately changed the locks & when she went to get her stuff, he trapped her inside by blocking the door. She messaged another friend for help. Jerk finally let her out but then immediately jumped into her vehicle so she couldn't leave. It wasn't until our mutual friend showed up and ordered him to get out that he finally did. She was afraid to call the cops bc she thought he might attack her and try to take her phone away. He actually has some of my stuff over there (I brought over supplies to do some painting for them) and is refusing to let me have it back. Probably going to need to involve the police. Anyway, I love that OP took all of their own stuff so the roommates can see just how "little" they contributed. I wish there was an update on how the roommates reacted.
Story6: Man, they got 2 days in the hospital after a c-section? Here they kick women out the very next day. Yeah, its sad that the woman still wanted to make other women suffer & that the government had to step in.
I feel like the last story, she knew how bad it was for the 2-day policy, and rather than change it, decided to be vindictive and thought "if I had to experience, I'll make others experience it!" as some sort of revenge.
Wife was looking at new cars a few years ago. We were looking at one brand and there were no prices on them so we found a salesman and asked. He said "if you need to ask, maybe (this brand) isn't for you". We left instantly. Moron screwed himself out of a cash sale.
What a Dumbass thing to say. That makes no sense at all!
Lol that roommate totally grinched those awful roommates. Bravo
2:22 You should ALWAYS test drive every car you consider buying, even if you've test drove the same model.. You should test drive the specific car you're buying, if you find a car you like and say "but I'd like it in red" and dealer says "I have one, exactly the same but red right here on the lot", TEST DRIVE IT.
4th story: anybody remember those tshirts that look like suits? Bow ties and everything? Get a hoodie eith thw same pattern, OP. Business attire while also being comfortable, and if its a good hoodie, it wont wear out as fast. I know someone who could probably make it for you, too
Hysterical!! I was fantasizing about cheap family friendly weddings..potluck and 9pm PJ party and I wondered where I'd find tux PJs LOL. Guys really love those two in one look. XooX
Story 3: I'll bet you anything that due to corporate policy, the Bossman would have gotten in trouble for refunding the present as it had no relation to work but probably had tons of funds for travel given the situation. His only problem was not explaining that clearly enough to the OP.
What is it with companies thinking a skirt is the only business dress a woman can wear?
Aren't we way past the point where women can't wear pants?
I mean... Pantsuits suits are not better suited for hands on tech support but pants, blouse and, depending on the temperature, a blazer are perfectly professional attire.
I'm a big fan of Steve Lukather (Toto guitarist and session player). He was grunge when grunge wasn't cool. He made some big money when he was barely an adult and wanted a BMW. The dealer wouldn't even let him test drive it, because he "couldn't afford it." He drove to another dealer and they sold him the car. He drove it back to the original dealer to shove it in his face, lol.
NEVER tell the dealer you are paying cash or have outside financing...
Always try to figure a price and NOT monthly payment prices. Say you will negotiate overall price, then we can talk monthly payments. Once you settle on a price. THEN you tell them you are paying with cash or have outside financing.
While I am sure the BMW dealer hated losing the sale, losing a 45k sale for a bmw dealership is nothing . For a BMW , that is on the low end of their car selection. Also never heard of a dealership forcing financing
first and second story love it cause cleanly when Dealer try get you to sign a payment, they get a cut from it and love in both story both OP said no especially second story when OP grandma drove to the first dealership and was like here my new car, and third story: it alway that one higher up that try be cheap and since OP manager was ok paid him, that the VIP was like no, that tell you the VIp and other like ViP actually don't know what going on in the company and they find the cheap way to cut cost and they learn the hard way and hope the VIP got fired or in trouble
I went home 2 days after my c-section, no pain killers and took care of my baby and house work just fine. I guess we're all built different but the recovery from the surgery was easier and less painful than the vaginal birth i had with my first child.
That's the whole point...we all recover differently. Did you know redheads require more anaesthesia...we have a whole slew of weird facts. 😊
@@lifewuzonceezr That’s really interesting! I didn’t know that and never would’ve guessed. Thank you for teaching me something today!
I hope that everyone is having a good Thursday!
You as well!
In that last story she could pay someone else to look after the kids. Between that and the crazy amount of Oxytocin in her system she probably deluded herself into thinking it wasn't too bad. For her to have that kind of job her denial and condescension levels would already be through the roof!!
Regarding the first two stories: New cars are typically sold at a razor-thin profit margin, if not at a loss. Interesting from financing is where all the money comes from.
What sad is insurance companies have so much power
I love it when the older generation transforms their “Frick, I’m old energy” into “F@c$ you! You are not worth wasting the rest of my short time on earth” energy.
Glad that lady got to taste the fruits of her insurance policy labors, sounds like she found them to be as delightfully cost effective as others did.
for story 5 the lady should've responded "I didn't get to where i am in Nursing by falsifying documents"
My parents and brother were looking for a new car for him since my dad wanted him to have a little better car since he was at college and my dad wasn’t there to work on the car or fix it if something happened (he had a 2011 Malibu, so it wasn’t a bad car, they just wanted a newer one). They were at this one dealership and they found a car and price they liked, but then when they tried paying cash for it the salesman tried to increase the price from what it was, cuz he wouldn’t be making as much money himself if they paid cash compared to financing it. So they left. They also left one dealership because the salesman refused to negotiate at all for any car. They left much quicker for that one.
Nothing beats the old rSlash videos, even the ones nowadays can't compare
The Insurance Lady in the final post is the definition of "Double Standards"
"rules for thee but not for me!"
ha i had a similar experience to story 1 grandma was willing to buy a new car and had the money to pay it off immediatly in cold hard cash but the dealership wanted to milk her for money and said the only way to get a car there was via regular payments. so we went somwhere else and got a car from a place that accepted cash up front.
Last story: its a good plan to torment people when the one to promote the policy complains how inhuman it is.😂