GTA Online's New Anti-Cheat Is A Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- GTA Online's New Anti-Cheat Is A Failure.
GTA Online has always had problems. GTA 5 Online bugs, exploits, money glitches etc. But with GTA 6 and GTA 6 Online right around the corner, Rockstar Games got ahead of the modders by adding their new Battleye Anti-Cheat for GTA Online. However, this Anti-Cheat has barely worked, banned innocent players, started a war, and locked 1,000s of players out from playing GTA Online ever again.
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Made a slight error by saying Kiddion's was profiting massively from mods, as there's were entirely free, my mistake. You can replace it with any other paid menu seller however, and the point still stands.
kiddions was proffiting from collecting personal data and selling it to advertisers, none does nothing 4 free
@@moka5377 Source for that?
@@moka5377 source? Isn't their stuff open source on GitHub and I've never heard of them data selling.
@@moka5377 cap + it ain't modders fault for a games security being shit, you know rockstar/take 2 are a multi billion dollar company its a greed issue. (they have the resources to make the game secure and future entries)
Glad i never used it lol. I didnt know that@@moka5377
Kiddions was free, not paid.
Ads from the website
@@jaxroblox4655 They hosted it on a seperate forum, they probably didn't make jack
@@jaxroblox4655 there was no website it was just up for grabs on a cheaters forum
@@jaxroblox4655It didn't have a website. It ran on UnknownCheats
@@jaxroblox4655 pray tell, what website
I got a 30 day suspension either though I was a legitimate player, 2 days ago they lifted it and gave me 1.5 mill :)
Only 1.5mil? When you get temp banned don't they reset your account
@@TheJFKExperience1963they falsely did it so they reverted it so he lost nothing
Well, at least they care a little
I got banned to. What did you tell them? I was fighting with support for about a week and they only response was that they can't tell me anything for security reasons...
@@TheJFKExperience1963 i think he mean they put in extra 1.5mil
Battleye does support linux, but rockstar was too lazy to enable it. Everything happening to rockstar was deserved.
They'll be fine.
Does it work in wine?
@@radger6392 no
@@radger6392 Without Rockstar permission, no.
@@John6-40 if you werent too broke to afford a steamdeck, youd understand the frustration.
While I do not support these, in Kiddion's defense, it was always free and never sold and ONLY available on UCForums. The Kiddion menus that were sold or elsewhere distributed were by people profiting off his work, some even sliding in trojans into it.
Kiddion also shut his menu down BEFORE the announcement of BattlEye. I dont know your sources, but they are not the freshest.
Just to correct that statement of yours.
such a gross error of information for someone making such a video.. Its scary
@@blade_20surely it’ll be mentioned
@oxyc0done I'm sure it was unintentional and perhaps the source was incorrect. However, kiddions wouldn't be happy to hear this as it was a project of passion, not greed.
@@blade_20 probably just misguided by resellers
thats why I said that idk his sources and that they are not the best, yes
Linux does *achktuhally* have a Battleye runtime, its literally just Cockstar not supporting it
Can't you install it in wine? Does it work in wine?
@@radger6392 no
After years of cheat abuse and tryhards, I secluded myself to solo lobbies and played primarily on my Steam Deck in recent years while I worked remotely, but even that wasn't safe apparently. I uninstalled it from my Steam Deck ever since the anti-cheat broke it. It stinks learning I don't even really miss it that much, I think I got all of the excitement I can from the game already years ago.
Same here, in the last couple of years, 90% of the time I spent in GTA Online was on solo sessions on the Deck, as it was strangely adequate to the sort of mind-numbing gameplay I looked for when using my Steam Deck to pass time. It ran quite well, which makes sense considering it's not a recent game by any means, and always had perfect controller support. Now I uninstalled it from the Deck and on PC I've been treating it as an exclusively single-player game, installing mods and such.
A friend of mine, who’s been playing for TWO YEARS STRAIGHT, got his account banned. Hundreds of millions down the drain. And when he went to try to get this account back, they denied him completely.
funny, i had a shit ton of money upon battleeye release and i wasn't banned. your friend just cheated :p
@@imrevig7261 He didn’t mod, we literally no lifed the shit out of the game lmao, all those cayos we did, all doomsday acts, the UDs, everything, gone
@@CallDitto750 he did, and ill tell you why. I done what your friend did.
@@onatics You can't know that for sure. There have been many false bans, which is why they made it possible to appeal for a ban reversal. Watch 5:18
Hundreds of millions in a couple of years playing? Yeah, I think we all know why your friend got banned. 😂
BattleEye is compatible with the SteamDeck and Linux, stop spreading misinformation,... R* just need to have it applied! a simple google search will show Valve stating this for other games three years ago.,...
As a pvp player i have suffered modders for years. Like 3 or 4 modders per session. I got crashed at least once every gaming session and had modders follow me for days crashing my game. Since battle eye one two weeks ago i have found less than 5 modders. Its the best thing that happened to me in the game.
Yeah, there were a few minor hiccups after the first installment of battleye, but since a few days ago online has been great to play.....
Yeah, Back then you couldnt fight at all.
Fighting a Griefer, you get crashed.
Killing someone who attacked you, get crashed.
You dare to have a PvP/Tryhard Outfit, guess what Crashed.
Now it is "Better", i still have A Modder once Out of 20 Sessions but its definetly more chill now.
Finally i can 1v1 with my Friends and dont have a modding fuck come in and do Shit.
Only a matter of time until Rockstar/T2 buy Battleye
before EA or Disney buys them all.
It's hard because BattleEye is already being used by other developers
@@enenraxdidn’t stop epic from buying easy anti cheat
5:50, its just GTA Online mfer.
This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for those meddling kids!
I think battleye is more of a tool they are using to evaluate the overall modding problem. Getting the stats for it and tracking it for development of their own or maybe to find the best option for gta6.
Whether it's a fear factor or the modders actually being stopped by BattlEye, it's refreshing being able to play the game it was inteded to be, before the anti-cheat I myself would not touch the game without a mod menu, it was bad enough to the point where getting on without a mod menu would pose a security risk. The anti-cheat has done more good than harm, I have not encountered a modder in days now and I didn't have to worry about my IP being leaked, getting booted offline or getting DDoS, the PvP scene is healing and it's actually fun to be back again, the anti-cheat had its initial hiccups but it's a lot better now, it's by all means NOT a disaster.
Never a problem on console.
@@John6-40 Yes but this is about PC
ive felt for awhile that GTA5 has just been a test map for RDR2 and GTA6
had a dude dressed as santa chase me in a gokart going ungodly fast playing the christmas horn, ran me off the road, money-dropped me a few mills and disappeared.
Those damn mod menus are so annoying no matter what game
GTA online was supposed to be a cute side game along with DLC. Thats why it never worked, it wasnt supposed to be that popular.
I wonder, if Valve will do anything about the fact that their customers are locked out
rockstar just never really gave one fuck about pc until now, expect the fact that they just ruined the whole game
only doing it for gta 6 and the mindless sheeples that are fapping off to the thought of it. look how they are treating the problems in gta online and thats gonna happen in gta 6 if it goes online or even the story mode.
Yeah bro I released myself from that torture, hardcore tossed the pc, now running buttered on xbox, sweet as. Just do it!! GTA VI will be pushing specs on the next gen box. We need a GTA VI Special Works edition.
my main problem with the anti cheat is the specific anti cheat they used. frankly i wouldn't care at all if they use a bespoke AC for VI.
Honestly, BE its easy asf to bypass. Just need a good kernel driver which is not open source so just wait a month and menus will come back same as the old times
They might even have more power with the menus to begin with because they might find a way to exploit Battleye.
@@collywood. Yea for example the feature "battleye ban-kick" which all menus had
@@collywood. RCE Exploit says hello
There are more people alive today that have played GTA 6 (Rockstar's development/qa teams, maybe some brass at take 2 trying out a demo, etc) Than there are people who have NOT experienced a cheater on GTA Online. Be they a modder or a loser on console exploiting near decade old glitches, its the one thing that remains consistent throughout everyone's experience.
i doubt anyone playing on gta online HASN'T been affected by a hacker/cheater. don't call them modders as that isn't the right definition.
As a console player, the only time I dealt with rampant modders or cheating was on PS3.
On the PS5 version, I might see someone using a glitch or being sketchy like once in an 8 hour session.
And that's being generous. It really isn't a problem on console these days. Certainly not to the level of PC.
Every time I watch a streamer, there were modders in every lobby.
sorry to say but
we/they will keep ddosing rockstar i have been cheating since the battle eye came out and havent been banned got 4 bill no ban and legit players get ban what are they doing there
FACTS, iv been doing the same but keeping it safe. I got 100 mill right now. Fuck rockstar games, all they want to do is juice us for money. Call of duty should get the same message too.
I got 30 day ban purely because a modder gave me 20M last year. Rockstar is killing their own game and they can't see it
im getting freaky asf rn 😃🙏
gng we DONT need to know that 🙏
Pics or not true
This is how we know GTA 6 is about to be dropping soon.
Kiddions was free. Not a menu seller 💀
imagine buying or even using that shit u mong
That reddit comment from bulletfever409 @ 4:30 annoys me because it doesn't acknowledge the lesson Microsoft (& Sony) learned after the 360s security exploits (JTAGs & RGHs), there will never be console mods like that again. It simply cannot be allowed to happen again.
if godmode does not exist on gta 6 online it will be complicated for modders
I hated when players were excited for this. I knew it was gonna be a failure.
They are not HWID banning. lol. read the TOS
3:43 - Okay It won't do much but here some information. Every online multiplayer game, no matter how old it is, has issues with cheaters. Some games with way older protection methods are logically more affected by cheaters than up to date games. BattleEye Anti Cheat is a modern and continully updated anti-cheat program and is always adjusted for the specific game. Of course basic and overarching methods are present in any game's instance but some specific exploits need custom adjustment. In Escape from Tarkov's case it got heavily toned down. People tend to close cheating, means they only get walls/ESP and try to play legitimate, they are hard to catch and mostly undetected expect when reported and viewed by a human.
I can't talk for DayZ, but I think the days where people flew over the map are also gone, in general people who ragecheat or do ridicolous things are banned in seconds or minutes, they have a one of experience and then they are gone.
My point is it isn't simple to just say "They used Anticheat XY and Game XY has A lOoT oF iSsUeS wiTh ChEaTeRs means the anticheat is bad". To be fair I don't know if it is any good my understandings of programming and software engineering are basic. But there is no way to say how many cheaters are in a game or not, it is mostly subjective and without data we can say jack-shit. For Rockstar's case they could even used Kernel-Level garbage anticheat and a lot may come through.
This is why I don’t play gta online any more because of cheating and modding
"barely worked" its called the long game and it's better than nothing.
It shockingly does work but some exploiters are manging to bypass it, but it kept the majority out. He's dramatic.
I don't know. I think the anticheat is still working wonderful. Prior to the anticheat I'd find 2-3 modders PER lobby when playing PC online. Now through a 8 hour session I may see one or two throughout the entire day.
I wish I was as lucky as you. There have been some days where I can't even get online because I keep getting my game frozen
I don’t really think that’s the anti cheat. Being someone who’s seen the modding community on Reddit and discord. A lot and I mean a LOT of modders are just holding off for a couple months until they fix the issue. Not only that but if you use Stand it won’t let you in the game anymore. Stand temporarily took away pink eye from the public until they find a way to bypass detection from Battleye. So if your a stand user which is the biggest mod menu on the platform you can’t even log into GTA online anymore. Give it a couple of months and Stand and 2Take are going to be able to completely bypass detection from Battleye. And the majority of the modding community will be back online with mods.
@@JetroYT HarmNone has the same problem. I've been fortunate not to have experienced that, though it does crash occasionally. I wonder why some ppl get freeze?
Battleye does support linux btw, rockstar just didn't enable it
People forget about the biggest mistake Rockstar ever made, which was giving GTA 5 away for free on EPIC. Millions of accounts were made providing infinite supply for modders. Account got banned? No problem let's use another one... If the game would have been 50$ at all times I'm sure the modder problem wouldn't have been as severe.
Yet I'm very happy the game got an anti cheat even if it is a mild one which doesn't detect everything. Definitely a test for GTA 6 in my opinion, so we can hopfully experience that game in peace.
I can't wrap my head around the fact that players on pc need a mod menu in order to protect themselves against modders, I remember mutahar said rockstar's peer to peer system was from gta 2
People tried to SELL Kiddions but the mod menu itself was free.
C'mon dude... research
More harm than good?? The lobbies are better than ever!
This anti cheat is literally just a test run for GTA 6. Rockstar try to solve the cheat issue before the PC port releases.
kiddions had already said that the mod menu was going to be discontinued before the battle eye so to say he was scared is not really true
I finally got Banned on my 2 Accounts i used my own Menu to simply force Host and kick out those Troll Modders out of the Lobby lol. But 9 Years is WAY TO LATE.. but also at some Point R* own fault with massive Modders, because of the crazy rising Vehicle Prices etc :p
Can we also mention that some Rockstar developers were in contact with Mod Menu developers, trading the game's source code for profit? I mean think of how much easier this is gonna make GTA VI a selling point, the older game is ridden with hackers and cheaters, so buy the new game that isn't filled with that yet. Cheaters make Rockstar lose money from Shark Cards, Rockstar makes money from cheaters by selling source code to them, normal players don't like cheaters so they move on from the old and in with the new.
For someone who plays GTA 5 its a shocker how he doesn't know much about kiddions, but that proves is that he's likely not a modder himself.
I don't believe anyone who says they were falsely banned. I play GTA and I know it's about 75% cheaters at least.
Battleye works on steam deck, Rockstar is just too lazy to check a box.
The anti cheat definitely had problems, my friend (we play on xbox) has been falsely banned not once but twice, he was banned for no reason in the middle of playing, got it appealed, then not a day later got banned again while doing a nightclub sell mission. He has a normal account and never used any types of cheats or money glitches
My guess is that they are getting this anti cheat for
GTA VI
Bro you are late in this battle eye video trend on top of that you haven't done proper research. Kiddion was always free because of his free menu, players survived against other paid modder. Kiddion already announced he that he will provide last final update before battle eye added. He also said he didn't know anything about battle eye update. Since many people were saying he knew about battle eye update was coming.
I was always told by modders that Kiddions Mod Menu was free that's why there was such a huge amount of modders in the game lol
This game was never fun until mods came out, its not even worth playing without them
I stopped playing because they cut half the cars out and because the cheaters got to be seemingly 1/2 players
Jokes on Rockstar I made 360 million legitimately without shark cards before I quit
Counter Strike, DeadLock, Dota 2, TF2, Steam is disaster too.
any game with battleye crashes my pc to bsod, now i cant play one of my fav games anymore😢
Rockstar just wants to kill GTA Online to release gta 6
I would not be shocked if people lie about cheat, people truthful about cheating, is cheating
battle eye is the worst anticheat. they would never spent money to make their own anticheat to actually fight cheaters
Declares war because a company ads anti cheat.. literally go touch grass 💀😂
i got banned and when i talked to the rockstar support they said that i was "lying"💀 and dont want to get me unbanned and when i asked how i can get unbanned they said to buy another version of the game💀😭🙏 bro wants to milk me for more money hell nah.
cheaters destroyed the game
Mod menus were always risky af to play around with, if you wanted to do it safe you needed to trick the server into giving you way more momey than it should when selling a car at LSC.
Its patched now but you used to be able to use cheat engine to change the sell value of a vehicle and as long as it was selling for less than 50m it was completely safe. 😅
Playing GTA online on pc is a death sentence
I find it funny rockstar pulled a byfron with their anticheat
Its so embarrassing that a bunch of losers in their parent's basement is putting a multi-BILLION company on a leash LOL
You’re such an underrated RUclipsr
Why would people make bots to kick people? Does that make them feel good? Like... Come on are you ok in the head?
2 of the menus you mentioned that apparently “profit massively” are completely free to use and are passionate projects by the creators 😂😭. Do some real research dude
The thing is, BattleEye is useless on PC.
I play on PC exclusively and ever since the "AnTi-ChEaT uPdAtE" it's just been worse.
All it did was piss off the entire modding community, people using Kiddion are now moving to Stand or Midnight Mod Menu's because those communities have been finding work arounds for BattleEye.
BattleEye doesn't do shit. Look at Valorant, PUBG, Fortnite, and DayZ, all games with BattleEye, all games riddled with cheaters.
BattleEye has some impact on console use, but on PC, it just doesn't matter because it's a known anti-cheat with known bypasses.
My experience on PC has turned very 50/50 since the update, it's now a 50 chance that I join a lobby that is decent and chill yes, but there's also the other 50 now where I join and it's some pissed off modder spam killing everyone in the lobby because he's absolutely pissed off at R* that he had to buy a new Mod menu.
This entire "uPdAtE" has just been nothing but a broken nightmare that has had barely any success and has just ruined the quality of their over all game even more than ever now.
I play on PC. BattleEye has reduced modding by, I'd say 95% in my assessment, and the game is so much better. This also goes for Assault on ATT-16, which became pretty much unplayable with modders hacking, but I haven't seen any hacks since the anti-cheat was introduced.
i cant even open the game
What I want to know: does BattlEye only check me, if I go into Online or the moment I start the game for Single Player as well. I would be furious about a hardware ban due to modding in single player.
No you're good. Thankfully they made it so you can disable the anticheat before starting the game so you can still use mods in SIngleplayer
@@JetroYT Okay, thank you for your quick response ❤️
Nope, they started the anticheat thing because they will integrate fiveM and current gen console features including GTA+ in the PC version soon, so they dont want modders get premium items for free or just generally poop on their moneymaker. So yeah, they really dont care about anything or anyone in PC community, all they care about is their revenues.
After Take-Two's last earnings call, then shortly after this anti-cheat coming into play, I think we could be looking at a delay for GTA VI. Think about it. During the last earnings call, Strauss said the numbers have fallen for GTA Online to the investors. They need to keep those numbers up so they can get away with a delay. PLUS, Strauss DID say they were worried about reviewer bombers not long before that earnings call. Maybe coincidence, but the timing of all this adds up. PLUS the additional fact that they're going after people that are modding in money, YET god-mode wasn't even touched. You have legit players getting ban because, what, they had TOO MUCH money on their account. The people that appealed it was a form of calling them out. This morning, I deleted my characters for GTAO and RDO, uninstalled, and have chosen to never send another cent Rockstar's way. I had people tell me that I will feel different when VI comes out. Nope. I moved on to other games and will never support a company that crossed a massive line. It's clear. They REALLY do NOT care about their community/ customers. Only the investors and their bottom line. Just like the government, they work for US and in turn, if they do right by US, they win and their investors win. The story mode will do fine, but their next online WILL fail. Mark my words. Excellent video.
Expanded and Enhanced is coming to PC (HSW, Career progress, chameleon paints, etc) you forgot to mention that
What we really need isn't on PC, its on PS5 and XBox S/X - griefers gallore, lag switches being used and a lot, I mean at least 1 in every lobby sometimes 2 or 3 or even 4 modded level 7000+ accounts all of which are on some weird unlimited ammo, no homing lockon, god mode cars kinda thing. Do people REALLY play GTA on a PC?
I'm happy they are finally doing something. I've been covering some story mode content just in case. I'm a clean player and over level 170 hate to have to deal with a false ban, or modders crashing my game.. I've played 2 or 3 times in the last couple weeks online, and just stayed in an invite only lobby, golf was broken, a mission I tried to play with a friend was broken.. Happy anti cheat is finally being implied just be glad when they get the kinks worked out.
Facts I have just been getting kicked offline everyday since the anti cheat rolled out. Hopefully they can get it actually working soon. Thank you for the comment!
They are probably testing the impact for GTA VI as well
probably testing ts for gta 6
For gta 6 they better have a strong ass cheat system or else they'll lose tons of money
I used Stand for a couple of years and maybe they were fun for like three days but then they destroy the whole concept of the game because you have nothing to do after you hav it
We should DDOS GTAO even more now.
I played GTA V since they added Battleye but let me tell you... it's too late anyway. I couldn't really engage into gameplay anymore, this game is dead to me. If they implemented that years ago when I was actively playing this game it might've been different but now, it's just too late imo.
I never cheated and got one month and both my things reset to zero. I wil not play this game any time soon.
Which is why I don’t get why people say get pc when literally there are cheaters at every corner. I play cod as well and I ran into so many pc cheaters never had that issue when it was only cross play with just consoles. We need to separate console and pc . Why do we have to suffer because pc can’t stop hackers
Valve is another disaster.
As a PS5 player, this isn't a problem for me. I almost never ran into cheaters anyway.
I don't feel bad for modders or cheaters. I don't feel bad for Steam Deck, either, as it really wasn't an official legitimate way to play, anyway.
You can't buy anything physical for a Steam Deck. That's the risk you take on an all digital platform.
It’s a trial before they add it to gta 6 what better way to test it than in a game that everyone is already playing
The modders were the most fun part of this game.
I'm normal player and non of these mentioned in the video happened to me... First day or two. .I did get kicked from the lobby. And some modders still have their mod but they are limited compared to before. People got a ban is basically not innocent to me .they are crying
1:38 this is not true, Rockstar has taken down plenty of menus (Paragon, Impulse, Luna, etc.)
Every game will always have cheaters
Ive never used cheats.. im banned for a month and my character wiped
Yeah there is no way they will ever release online in GTA 6 after it release
I think they use gta5 and now with anti-cheat to learn how to protect the upcoming gta6.
forget that deck players pay for gta 5 not gta online gta online always was free and they asked for refunds 🤡💀
they pay for both, just like pc players
then shut the pc ports down