Battle of Poitiers, 1356 ⚔ The Capture of a King ⚔ Hundred Years' War

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    📢 Narrated by David McCallion
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    📚 Sources:
    Peter Hoskins - In the Steps of the Black Prince, The Road to Poitiers, 1355-1356 (2011)
    David Nicolle - Poitiers 1356, The capture of a king (2004)
    David Green - Battle of Poitiers 1356 (2002)
    British battles - Poitiers - by Hillaire Belloc (1913)
    #history #medieval #documentary

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  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche  Год назад +38

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    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +4

      Your 100 years war work is on a whole new level man! Could You consider doing the Siege of Vienna of 1683?

    • @БакбергенМуратов-ф2в
      @БакбергенМуратов-ф2в Год назад +2

      I'm so glad you remade this battle from five years ago.

    • @nikoladzeletovic4259
      @nikoladzeletovic4259 Год назад +1

      If you can please do battle of Velbuzhd,your work and videos are great :)

    • @oxXkiritoXxo
      @oxXkiritoXxo Год назад

      It's okay ! Most of the name have a good pronunciation. It's just somewhat strange for us, Jeanne d'arc to Joanne of arc, or Jean to John. But your vidéo are perfect, thank you !

    • @zeanolafboyopos1409
      @zeanolafboyopos1409 Год назад

      The video that made me subscribed to the channel 5 years ago. ⚔️🛡️

  • @LoneWanderer727
    @LoneWanderer727 Год назад +577

    Medieval commanders with proper scouting? Impossible I say!

  • @TeacherTaj
    @TeacherTaj 10 месяцев назад +12

    I can feel myself envious of the Black Prince: hmmmm, what do I get my dad for Christmas? Oh, I know - I'll expand Gascony by nearly double, and bring the French King home as a prize. Easy, peasy.
    Me: I hope my dad likes this card.

    • @robert-surcouf
      @robert-surcouf 10 месяцев назад

      In fact, the gascons wants to keep Jean 2 prisoner at Bordeaux and it was Edward 3 who forced the black prince against his wish to bring him to London leading the black prince to compensate the gascons.
      The consequences were that the black prince lose the gascons trust and Gascony wassn't expand until 1360 with the Bretigny treaty but it was a step back from the London treaty in 1358 (never accepted by the Valois) because of the failure by Edward 3 chevauchée in 1359-1360

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Год назад +31

    It was another wonderful historical coverage video shared by an amazing ( History Marche) channel about Poitiers' battle between French kingdom and Anglogascon invaders on French territory at 1356 AD..where English long bow had obvious role for English gaining victory ✌️ while French utilized short Bows and bad controlling of French warriors columns brought defeat to French campaign....thank you (History Marche ) channel for sharing this incredible work

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 Год назад +172

    I've heard of this battle and King John's capture for years. But did not know his 14 old son was present with him at his capture! Well done!

    • @uwbollema
      @uwbollema Год назад +10

      It was mostly for this that his dad rewarded him with the duchy of Burgundy

    • @shaunwalker2557
      @shaunwalker2557 11 месяцев назад +12

      can't imagine any of todays royals fighting like the Black Prince and his noble friends...and hats off to the French. .King Jean and his young son and his nobles. .todays Charles wouldn't lift a finger to save this country as he has thrown away 100's of years culture and history as long as people bow and curtsey ..sold Christianity out to appeal to the Muslims and non English.

    • @MrBubblecake
      @MrBubblecake 7 месяцев назад

      @@shaunwalker2557let’s be honest, the French have had war PTSD since WW2 🤷🏽‍♂️😂 and then having to watch the United States (the country they once controlled) be given the glory had to hurt lol

    • @patrickevans9604
      @patrickevans9604 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@MrBubblecakethe French were absolute pillars in WW1 and basically fought to a stalemate most of the way through. In WW2, the army was broken far too quickly to really make an impact but their civilians did the bulk of the groundwork for the invasion of Normandy to allow the allies to free their home. While lots of people talk down on the French from that time period, I have always acknowledged that both wars might have been lost without the sacrifice of a ton of French people. Not all of us believe our military was the only reason the enemy was beaten.

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 Год назад +8

    Great! more Hundred years' war! love this series!

  • @RJ_F1
    @RJ_F1 Год назад

    I like the fact the Black Prince have a Sassy response al the Time! hahaha Thanks for the wonderful work again. Cheers Mate! 🥂

  • @maestro-zq8gu
    @maestro-zq8gu Год назад

    Any day we get a new history marche vid is a good day.

  • @HackDaGoon
    @HackDaGoon Год назад

    This shall be my sacrifice to the comment algorithm! I may not be able to tune in to watch these all the time when they come out, but I will always watch the videos you cover on historical battles.

  • @iluen
    @iluen Год назад +4

    I have so many questions, how come you send in one "LINE" of footmen and just chill for 2 hours?!

    • @aze94
      @aze94 Год назад +1

      If you send more they would just be chilling while in range of the archers

  • @teflondave7823
    @teflondave7823 Год назад +2

    "Names in French we butcher on occasion."
    Mon dieu, he is not wrong.

  • @gholgholzade5824
    @gholgholzade5824 Год назад

    can't wait for the next video of the series

  • @Zombiewithabowtie
    @Zombiewithabowtie Год назад +3

    Once again, the charge of overzealous French cavalry wins the day!
    ... For the other side.

  • @AfaqueAhmed_
    @AfaqueAhmed_ Год назад +4

    French before battle :- We must silence the English archers .
    French during battle :- Cavalry go brr.

  • @zach4515
    @zach4515 Год назад

    lol my sacrafice to the algo! Nice history lesson.

  • @49558201
    @49558201 7 месяцев назад

    great thanks , watch " Hallow Crown '

  • @chrishanson4025
    @chrishanson4025 4 месяца назад

    very impressive. Love your diction

  • @molybdaen11
    @molybdaen11 Год назад

    And this is why communication is so important.
    I still wonder why the french did not try to sneak uo through the forest - to many wolfes?

  • @Spurr_ovo
    @Spurr_ovo Год назад

    I’m watching this on 19/09/2023. Moment of silence for all these brave men who fought on this day in France. English and French a like.

  • @czargamming9072
    @czargamming9072 Год назад

    Can you make a tutorial about how to make videos like you it will be very helpful

  • @onewayintospace
    @onewayintospace 7 месяцев назад +1

    🙏👉Капитан deBush был на французской стороне.

  • @farright118
    @farright118 Год назад

    So the one thing they knew they needed to do to win the battle was coordination or sarving out the English but they didn't do either?
    Also they knew they needed take out the archers but didnt do that either

  • @martinjones12
    @martinjones12 Год назад

    sweet

  • @CharlieVane21
    @CharlieVane21 10 месяцев назад

    Someone needs to make an epic TV series on the Hundred Years' War, it's GOT on steroids. It's got everything.

  • @davidlefranc6240
    @davidlefranc6240 Год назад

    I feel like the secret weapon of the English was their archers they made a huge difference .

  • @SirJaymesDAudelée
    @SirJaymesDAudelée Год назад +152

    21:40 just my opinion, but it seems to me as though the decision to feign a retreat towards the river was a clever move. Not only does the Earl of Warwick entice the enemy into their initial charge, but once his troops wheel about to engage the enemy, he manages their repositioning, so that an out flanking option is no longer available to the French, as the English battle line runs to the marsh, PLUS the archers final position winds up being in that marsh, where they are well protected from cavalry.
    None of these things existed whilst Warwicks division remained where it initially stood.

    • @bbbruh8809
      @bbbruh8809 Год назад +14

      True, it was good trap

    • @bremnersghost948
      @bremnersghost948 Год назад +12

      Classic Norman Tactic.

    • @kentanyamartin8313
      @kentanyamartin8313 8 месяцев назад

      Fr it pretty much won the battle cus eliminated a whole division with little resistance

    • @DennisHurst-f2q
      @DennisHurst-f2q 8 месяцев назад

      Man you know what you’re talking about ! Impressive !!

    • @remypascal4872
      @remypascal4872 8 месяцев назад

      This one step back as invitation... not new there. But enough french commanders and enough of the soldiers were there not intelligent enough in tactics or too intelligent for anti fight egoism.
      Unbelievable this acting. It was a bloody gift to the invaders.

  • @kappadestiny638
    @kappadestiny638 Год назад +35

    French Knights charging into the fray and getting obliterated case no. 28.

    • @dentkort
      @dentkort Год назад +12

      Funnily enough, it worked almost every time. This channel just over focuses on their few defeats. France had the best and most numerous knights in Europe, in an age where heavy cavalry was the meta.

    • @mu2960
      @mu2960 Год назад +5

      Just never when it counted

    • @kappadestiny638
      @kappadestiny638 5 месяцев назад

      @@dentkort That's really it honestly, so often are they used to simply steam rolling their enemies with sheer French chivalric mass that even when every sign says their better of staying put or waiting it out, somehow they still throw out all better thinking and charge anyway. Hey if it works almost all the time there's no way it could go wrong just this once right?

  • @hannibalbarca9910
    @hannibalbarca9910 7 месяцев назад +31

    There is a gap between 1356 and 1415 not covered by the series.
    And thank you for this great effort.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  7 месяцев назад +20

      Working on the gap ;)

    • @yippeethreeeight
      @yippeethreeeight Месяц назад

      Read about the Sack of Alexandria in 1365. There was a "Crusade".

  • @jetonzag6087
    @jetonzag6087 Год назад +283

    I'm surprised how the French didn't focus special attention on the English longbow men before any front line engagement. These English units proved time and again to be the most dangerous yet the French repeated the same mistakes. Can anyone explain if maybe I am wrong?

    • @Yellow-kp9gs
      @Yellow-kp9gs Год назад +107

      No the french learned overtime and to be fair the English longbowmen were brilliant when in good terrain or defence. If they weren’t supported or their defences weren’t ready they could be overrun due to their lack of armour.

    • @rdb8887
      @rdb8887 Год назад +196

      One of the main reasons French knights didn't focus on longbowmen is because most knights wanted to capture enemy nobility so that they could earn a ransom. Ransoms were extremely profitable and a key incentive for fighting in war at the time. Many poorer knights needed ransoms in order to finance the money they spent to go off to war. However longbowmen were not nobility, so they weren't worth a ransom and thus French knights sought to fight English knights instead of longbowmen. Essentially there was a strong financial reason to only focus on the English knights.

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 Год назад +63

      They wanted adventure, glory and fortune like their Frankish ancestors in Charlemagne's times or Crusades for example, because they were raised on the Songs and Epics, of Roland or King Arthur, and even Troubadours's love songs (in chivalric way). It was particularly successful among the Nobility, because the values of chivalry were born in France, or the Medieval French (and Occitan) speaking world in general (particularly, Counties of Toulouse, Provence or Duchies of Aquitaine, Burgundy and Normandy, plus Norman's Sicily ).
      This is why most, including the youngest, were so eager to fight first, but in the old feudal mentality, while the world had already changed. The Plantagenet Army modernized more, especially after the wars against the Scots, where they saw that the old tactics of chivalry alone were no longer enough.
      Then in the 15th century, it will be the opposite, Charles VII will promote a more modern army, where the Plantagenets will remain cemented in the ancient tactics of the Longbowmen, which worked before.

    • @IronWarrior86
      @IronWarrior86 Год назад +46

      Another big reason i think is that they saw it beneath themselves to charge, what in their minds were, "peasants". Chivalry took presedence over consideration on how to best win the battle.

    • @forlornfool221
      @forlornfool221 Год назад +9

      Not an exact fit.. yet I can't help comparing the inflexibility of many WW1 Generals..

  • @DrKarmo
    @DrKarmo Год назад +86

    Amazing video! It really shows how terrain is important when facing a heavy cavalry force, the french were defeated the same way they were in crecy and the same way the parthians were defeated by ventidius at mount gindarus. You guys should remake crecy btw! Keep up the good work!

    • @wahcks1142
      @wahcks1142 Год назад +5

      Ventidius was an insane general

    • @vincentknatz7993
      @vincentknatz7993 Год назад +1

      poitiers plays out very different compared to crecy

    • @DrKarmo
      @DrKarmo Год назад +3

      @@vincentknatz7993 i meant to highlight the importance of terrain rather than a 1 to 1 comparison

    • @reggiebuffat
      @reggiebuffat Год назад

      It's always about the terrain and communication.

  • @lordvader5756
    @lordvader5756 Год назад +15

    Ok, why do the French attack one by one

    • @lordvader5756
      @lordvader5756 Год назад

      @@randomuser-xc2wr Yes this is a good explanation. As you said, since they were inexperienced, I believe they just didn't follow orders and charged in too early. As to why didn't the king send all his forces after the charge, maybe he was also a bit cocky and/or feared encirclement if he sent all his forces. The second case is unlikely since he new the English king was stranded, although he might have thought that there was a chance of another force hidden somewhere.
      That is all just some rambling and I think that what you said is the most common mistake of this type.

    • @teamrivergo5503
      @teamrivergo5503 2 месяца назад

      To lose of course.

    • @charliepenguingaming
      @charliepenguingaming 2 месяца назад

      For the cinematics

  • @SirJaymesDAudelée
    @SirJaymesDAudelée Год назад +4

    Case in point for your sponsor…”Charles” is one French name you are regularly butchering. But maybe I can set you straight, I’m a Canadian.
    You have not pronouncing the ‘S’ right. Keep not pronouncing it.
    But in place of the ‘S’, you pronounce the ‘e’ as though it had an accent grave on top. Yet because it ends the word, with no accent, you can refrain from pronouncing it as well.
    So what we have left is a word that should rhyme with the word ‘Karl’. But now comes the hard part for native English speakers.
    You have to pronounce the ‘r’ with a gurgling tongue. Which itself isn’t too difficult. But it tends to be extra tricky for us Anglophones to properly gurgle an ‘r’ that is immediately followed by an ‘l’ sound. But either way, that’s how it must be done. So get practicing 😊
    Merci et bon nuit.

  • @jonmopjovi2734
    @jonmopjovi2734 Год назад +8

    Algorithm fodder comment

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Год назад +18

    Incredible documentary as usual. I learn something new each time!

  • @basiliimakedonas1109
    @basiliimakedonas1109 Год назад +7

    The Black Prince was the OG pro gamer

  • @magnuslh84
    @magnuslh84 Год назад +2

    yes, it's nice to practice French when using French names etc. but note that the peculiar "French R" hadn't evolved in the Middle Ages. It only came in the late 1600s...

  • @kogerugaming
    @kogerugaming Год назад +2

    I always get angry when I see bad battlefield movement like these. The english exploited them well.

  • @naincompetent4438
    @naincompetent4438 Год назад +2

    😂C’est quand même marrant de voir que les chaînes « historiques » Anglo-saxonnes sont obsédées par la France , à croire que vous n’avez rien fait d’autre 😂

    • @didierpaya9069
      @didierpaya9069 Год назад +1

      et rarement obsédées par les défaites anglo-saxonnes. Internet est une colonie anglaise...

  • @anthonyklanke1397
    @anthonyklanke1397 Год назад +3

    "It's useful to know a bit of French when talking about France" 😂😂😂

  • @tagrandmaman124
    @tagrandmaman124 Год назад +2

    History march, can you please make videos that explain why the French ended up winning the 100 years war? You made Poitier, Agincourt, and the black prince chevaucher, but how therefore did the French win? Feels a little bias towards the Brits 🤷‍♂️ teach me how the war turned

    • @bunkerkorpf1440
      @bunkerkorpf1440 Год назад

      Some Anglotards conveniently forgot the numerous and significant French victories.

  • @eelchiong6709
    @eelchiong6709 Год назад +5

    It's great that History Marche acknowledge they butcher french words. An honest blogger. I won't regret subbing.

  • @DrivermanO
    @DrivermanO Год назад +10

    Bernard Cornwell wrote about this campaign in his book 1356. Its excellent. As is his Azincourt (Agincourt). Both are well worth a read.

  • @pierredebug17
    @pierredebug17 Месяц назад +1

    France imploded so much that in the end England lost most of its land there. The irony is that the Plantagenet kings had initially so much more possessions than the kings of France. What could have been…

  • @TheShieldery
    @TheShieldery Год назад +1

    Edward the black prience "Eddi" looks like exactly like Mr. Bean in Blackadder

  • @agustinfigueroa3239
    @agustinfigueroa3239 Год назад +6

    I would pay very good money to see HM cover the wars of South America. There arent many military history channels here, and definitely nowhere close in quality. I really hope it happens one day, they're all very interesting conflicts

    • @pbh9195
      @pbh9195 8 месяцев назад

      From what time period might I ask

  • @wedgeantillies66
    @wedgeantillies66 Год назад +2

    The French defeat at Poitiers is a very clear and useful example of how command and control broke down on the behalf of the French army in respect of the early cavalry charges and then the uncoordinated and unsupported attacks of separate battiles against the Anglo-Gascon lines. Leaving ripe for the plucking and defeat when superior command and control on the part of the Anglo-Gascon's leadership and tactical responses to the French moves, enabled them to make the most of their opportunities to score a decisive victory, with that double cavalry envelopment at the end.

  • @leoashura8086
    @leoashura8086 Год назад +7

    Why didn’t they flank the archers with a cavalry charge? While the infantry is fighting in melee? And if they couldn’t why even engage? Sounds stupid

    • @kwando472
      @kwando472 Год назад

      Wars are stupid and mistakes makes a victor.

    • @arandomwalk
      @arandomwalk Год назад +3

      Because the French army was an absolute joke at this time

    • @aze94
      @aze94 Год назад

      It is not really shown, but I think the hedge was particularly think on the flank to the point that it could not be traversed. And as French supplies were dwindling not engaging was a bad option.

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 Год назад +1

      @@arandomwalk They were not, as a Martial fighters, French Knights were amongst the best in Europe, but the Kingdom of France was still quite Feudal in its structure, despite the Capetian Royal influence. They just kept Feudal mentality war like 200 years ago, whereas the English army became more professional, with emphasis on Longbow.
      Not to mention the fact that the values of chivalry were even stronger in France than in England, the latter were able to easily reinvent themselves, especially since they began to see in Scotland that Chivalry no longer worked as before.
      And then, the reverse happened when the Valois created a professional army with emphasis on Cannons, while the English had still not changed their tactics for a hundred years...

  • @Spura83
    @Spura83 Год назад +4

    I don't quite understand though why these commanders, like french in this instance, didn't try to utilize more of their force at once. Why the piece-meal attacks? And if you're going to do waves of attacks, why not schedule them more closely together?

    • @bunkerkorpf1440
      @bunkerkorpf1440 Год назад +7

      The main reason is that French command over the army wasn't absolute, lot of knights and subcommanders acting independantly. It stopped only in the last decades of Hundred years war, when France had finally a more professionnal army and a lot of artillery, and won.

    • @robert-surcouf
      @robert-surcouf Год назад

      In the medieval era, low/local nobles have to fund themselves in war and with the big winter 1315-1317 and the black plague 1347-1351, many farmers who survived moved to cities while local nobles have less money with less people to tax and their only way to keep a decent income was war with ransom, that means you have to make another noble prisoner yourself and you can't if the men in arms made the jobs themselves.
      Another reason is Valois kings ruled only since 1328 and unlike Capetiens (who have also few power from 987-1180), they have to gained respect from nobility and people and are unlicky enough to deal with war since 1337 and many defeats in a row since 1345.
      The duty from nobles at the time is to protect the peasants who will fund their lavish lives in return.
      Because the chevauchees made so damages and french nobles have been incompetent since 1345, they have to fight and each one fight for his own glory instead to focus on winning the battle

    • @jimmynegatron4619
      @jimmynegatron4619 Год назад

      Communication and visibility were a limiting factor. Battle plans would be drawn up but each commander would move at their own discretion.

  • @geoffroydegodefroy2374
    @geoffroydegodefroy2374 Год назад +36

    Thank you for this! I don't know how long the video lasts but Schwerpunkt uploaded a 3 hours tactical analysis of Poitiers that I prepotently recommend

    • @upsidedownnoise
      @upsidedownnoise Год назад +4

      If you look at the bottom of any RUclips video, there is a time display bar which informs you of the length of the video.

  • @talusn9405
    @talusn9405 Год назад +13

    I would like you to do the Battle of Khotyn - the Ottoman Empire and their allies against the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Zaproscy Cossacks 😊😊

  • @RobertBailey-y3h
    @RobertBailey-y3h Год назад +3

    The graphics on the maps do make following events a bit easier reading thehistory with a map available is much mure confusing. This presentation is like setting out terrain and miniatures, which is my preferred methodv for situation as complex as this. Well done! --Bob Bailey in Maine

  • @guamcounty
    @guamcounty Год назад +2

    It seems like the French just wanted to charge to show courage and honor and then withdraw.

  • @RealDarkBlade
    @RealDarkBlade Год назад +1

    Current score for French knights winning against what they perceive as a retreating party: 0

  • @FreeFallingAir
    @FreeFallingAir Год назад +16

    Amazing work on this classic, you've come a long way over these few years. Keep up the great work. Ive always enjoyed studying the 100 Years War😊

  • @TheOverLORDFF
    @TheOverLORDFF Год назад +1

    Your pronunciation is distracting. Please just pronounce French words in your own accent.

  • @talusn9405
    @talusn9405 Год назад +10

    Battle of Chocim I'm still waiting for this battle 😍😍😍😍😍😍🙄🙄

  • @yshdh8580
    @yshdh8580 Год назад +2

    Even if the English prevail in this battle in the end the French win the War.

    • @bunkerkorpf1440
      @bunkerkorpf1440 Год назад +1

      True, but the war ended almost 100 years after this battle

    • @anzaca1
      @anzaca1 8 месяцев назад +1

      The Hundred Years War...wasn't a war. It was a long period of conflict. The two kingdoms at the end would've been unrecognizable to someone from the very beginning.
      Remember, 100 years separates the American Revolution and the Civil War. A Revolutionary wouldn't have even recognised the US as it was in the 1860s.

  • @dave1234aust
    @dave1234aust Год назад +14

    Thank you. I hadn't realised how much of an impact the hedgerow had on the battlefield.
    Imagine having to dodge arrows, an uphill slippery slope, all whilst carrying onions and waving your croissants at the enemy. Just a shame a hundred years later Joan of Arc ruined things.
    We could have taught the French how to play cricket. Oh well

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 Год назад +7

      The Valois did not wait for Joan of Arc to win. From the Caroline phase (1364-1389), the reign of Charles V and his constable Bertrand du Guesclin already made it possible to cancel the conquests of Edward III and his son.

    • @thesnoopmeistersnoops5167
      @thesnoopmeistersnoops5167 Год назад

      ​@@thibaultsardet7399and then what happened before Joan of Arc arrived.....

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 Год назад

      @@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167 And cancelled after. The longbowmen did not have enough fingers.

  • @bryce89x30
    @bryce89x30 Год назад +2

    Sacrifice submitted

  • @sugar-daddykhayreddin1115
    @sugar-daddykhayreddin1115 Год назад +7

    Abysmal commandership by the French.

  • @NelsonDiscovery
    @NelsonDiscovery Год назад +1

    7:14 Genuine worries? 😅 Sounds like parainoid actions more like.

  • @forlornfool221
    @forlornfool221 Год назад +1

    Should have ate Adderall instead of Elderberry's.. 🙊🙉🙈

  • @MrNybios
    @MrNybios Год назад +2

    Could you call this "defeat in detail by pure chance"?

  • @samlloyd3286
    @samlloyd3286 Год назад +4

    Love the long videos and consistency of your videos. Please keep up the great work!

  • @LegacyZwerg
    @LegacyZwerg Год назад +1

    Man this young kid Philippe ( at 28:50) sure was something but I doubt we will hear from him again. He will probably never become the head of a rising dukedom and establish a new noble house rivaling and maybe overshadowing even France and the Emperor in its power or wealth :D

  • @adityajuneja7
    @adityajuneja7 Год назад +1

    how the hell did French won the 100 years war... all I see is them loosing every battle

    • @anzaca1
      @anzaca1 8 месяцев назад

      Calling it a War makes no sense. It was many wars. Ultimately, the British lost little. Yeah, they lost so lands, but they gained more elsewhere.

  • @dentkort
    @dentkort Год назад +2

    I'm starting to think this channel might hate the French knights. Mostly humiliating defeats featured, even though they were the most successful people military precisely because of the quality of their knights. It's getting so bad that I see people in the coments ask why knights were even a thing if "they got their asses kicked all the time".

    • @Yellow-kp9gs
      @Yellow-kp9gs Год назад +1

      They literally did multiple french victories a few weeks ago- Including Castilion

    • @dentkort
      @dentkort Год назад

      @@Yellow-kp9gs Not french heavy cavalry victories though which supports my point. Maybe I should rephrase "french knights".

    • @aze94
      @aze94 Год назад +4

      @@dentkort What do you mean? According to the video for the Battle of Castilion French victory was sealed when the French cavalry arrived at the end.
      Furthermore this channel has also done a video on the Battle of Formigny, in which the French cavalry performed excellently.
      I think the perception of French knights being shown as a poor fighting force has mostly to do with the fact that this channel covers the Hundred Years War. In which for 2/3s of the war French cavalry commanders tended to be arrogant and prone to charging off on their own with no concern for how it would affect their side which badly damaged overall cohesion of French forces.

    • @robert-surcouf
      @robert-surcouf Год назад +1

      English historians channels never want to talks about Saint-Omer 1340, Cocherel 1364, Pontvallain 1370, Chiset 1373 or Rosebeeke 1382, they only talk about Jeanne of Arc and showed the war as Plantagenet/Lancastrian beat Valois from 1337 to 1428 then Valois wins because of luck and a crazy teenager.

  • @riccardodisabato3316
    @riccardodisabato3316 Год назад +2

    A videogame with theese things are rally beautyfoul

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Год назад +7

    What a great series! ⚔🔥🏹

  • @NelsonDiscovery
    @NelsonDiscovery Год назад +3

    I wonder how the Edwardian phase influenced the position of Aquitainians after the region was incorporated into Valois territory
    Also really interested in Carolingian phase of the war.

  • @cryptoyt756
    @cryptoyt756 Год назад +3

    Poggle! Another HistoryMarche banger

  • @landsknecht_voran
    @landsknecht_voran Год назад +1

    Lesson: don't use ps2 controller to control your army

  • @arthurlau98
    @arthurlau98 Год назад +1

    The French got a larger force.
    Proceed to break up its army so the English can defeat them in detail.
    Seriously, the French performance in the hundred years war is them keep making blunders after blunders

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 Год назад

      They learned since they won the War...

    • @robert-surcouf
      @robert-surcouf Год назад +1

      Plantagenet armies have same tactics until soctish wars ans Banockburn in 1314.
      English tactics were just new tactics in a era where chivalry rules applies.
      The only reason why Valois seems to be losers is because all anglo-saxons historians always skip event between Poitiers 1356 and Azincourt (1415) while Valois recovers from 1356-1364 then beat Plantagenet from 1364-1389 and from 1407-1435, have their own war of the roses that help Henry 5 to be seen as a legend (despite Lancastrian keep winning after his death from 1422-1428)

  • @OldieBugger
    @OldieBugger Год назад +3

    Of course I watched this suspension story in full, as I never heard these kind of details in my history lessons. Thank you!

  • @Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy
    @Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy Год назад +2

    Hey HistoryMarche while you're at it ... please do next on the two Barons Revolts and a compilation of the 100 Years War ...
    Looking forward to it ❤️💙🤜🍻🤛

  • @CesarinPillinGaming
    @CesarinPillinGaming 7 месяцев назад

    I'm still baffled with some of the desicions of the battle.
    Like going one large division at a time instead of commiting properly.
    Its like sending 500 against 1000 over and over and hope these 500 somehow manage to win over and over.
    And in reality end destroying his own army for nothing.

  • @joestewart6319
    @joestewart6319 Год назад +2

    here is my sacrifice great vid guys.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Год назад +1

    Shameful display.

  • @立花達郎-n9l
    @立花達郎-n9l Год назад +2

    どうしてもイングランドのロングボウ戦術は好きになれない フランス騎士達も酷いが アジャンクールやカスティヨンの戦いも観たいですね

  • @eduardopulin5573
    @eduardopulin5573 5 месяцев назад +1

    What a turn of events, wow

  • @joaomarcelo7708
    @joaomarcelo7708 Год назад +2

    I don't understand why would one order an attack in such a manner as did King John. He knows that the entire English army is in front of him, so why not send most of your soldiers to the front line immediately in an attempt to overrun the enemy with pure numerical superiority and flanking? Why, instead, send each line alone to the point that when you send another, the first is already retreating from their defeat, diminishing the second's morale? How does this make any sense, isn't this just asking to be defeated in detail? Can someone tell me if I am being stupid?

    • @doritofeesh
      @doritofeesh Год назад +4

      Not exactly. You can only deploy so many men on a frontage of battle depending on the hindrances in terrain or other environmental features. Those left in the rear might as well be cheerleaders until the front retire (whether by design or by rout), freeing up space for the reserves to move up and engage. Otherwise, if you have the front row charge, followed by the second and third rows charging as well, unless a gap is present to exploit and follow through to get inside/behind the enemy formation... Well, think of a domino line of cars rear-ending each other one after the other. It's inefficient.
      What Jean II can be criticized for is going along with the impetuous charge of d'Audrehem and those nobles raring for a fight. Had they all listened to de Clermont, who advised to starve out the English, then victory would have certainly belonged to the French. From the get go, de Clermont had outmanoeuvred Edward and Lancaster by utilizing the central position to prevent a junction between the two, putting the Black Prince in a position to be defeated in detail. By getting to Poitiers ahead of Edward, he had also cut the English off from their lines of communication (which is a route for messages and supplies to transfer from one's bases to the front).
      The same thing happened prior to Azincourt about 5-6 decades later, where de Albret outmanoeuvred Henry and took up a central position between him and Bardolph, cutting him off from the nearest base he could use on the coast at Calais. Otherwise, he would have to march ALL the way back to Harfleur, being harassed by the French the entirety time. On both occasions, the superior operational manoeuvres by the French generals (de Clermont and de Albret respectively) were completely negated by the impetuosity of the French nobility and knightly class. As much as the English monarchs and English soldiers should be commended for their bravery and their capabilities on the tactical level, their commanders were rather lacking in skill when it came to operational manoeuvre warfare and, had they been facing a foe with more disciplined troops, would have likely been destroyed.

    • @aze94
      @aze94 Год назад

      I think in a situation like this with a limited front you would have to engage in human wave tactics as the French did. Had not one of the waves gotten disheartened and left without fighting it may even have worked.

    • @asyfer729
      @asyfer729 Год назад

      @@doritofeesh They could flank the army with the horsemen after the melee engage wiping the longbow and surrounding them with overwhelming number.

    • @doritofeesh
      @doritofeesh Год назад

      @@asyfer729 It isn't a video game, and the English longbowmen were known to bring along stakes. HM likely didn't show it, but they more than probably had either stakes or dug out trenches before them, making it impossible to just charge them with the cavalry. The flanks, as you can see, are protected by the terrain.

  • @yippeethreeeight
    @yippeethreeeight Месяц назад

    Excellent video! Thank you!
    I learned of the Battle of Poitiers from reading the "Chivalry" series by Christian Cameron (an historical fiction). The first book covers the Battle of Poitiers, as well as many of the years following. The second book covers the Sack of Alexandria.

  • @YannaTarassi
    @YannaTarassi 3 месяца назад

    Meanwhile, in camp, Count Adhemar gets increasingly annoyed at how well the young Sir Ulric von Liechtenstein is doing at Tournament.... ;)

  • @anathardayaldar
    @anathardayaldar 11 месяцев назад +1

    For a guy named "Boucicault", he fought surprisingly bravely.

  • @victoriahhigman9611
    @victoriahhigman9611 4 месяца назад

    I thought this really interesting. Good old Black Prince. Only 16! Don’t think he’s a vegan

  • @samchaleau
    @samchaleau 8 месяцев назад

    The thing I don't understand is why the French King did not send riders with orders of the Duke of Orleans to return to the field and assist a second advance?
    IMO he ordered the Duke to protect the Dauphin's broken force as he was unsure if Lancaster would arrive. This being the only apparent logical reasoning for the English to make a stand.
    It's likely he believed his third force - the Triarii (elite veterans) of the French Army - would be enough to crush the Black Prince's force.

  • @Maedok21
    @Maedok21 Год назад +1

    For the algorithm.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Год назад +2

    I love hearing about The Hundred Years War. It's just so interesting.

  • @herbdizz
    @herbdizz Год назад

    Good writtens, the boy gotta learn the hard way it is what it is. I pay attention to the dudes that work…the KPJs get chance after chance excuse after excuse and dudes for days in the comment section talkin bout he just need help. Haha nigga the career, team structure and financial compensation is THE HELP! Get a clue.

  • @paintingpanzers
    @paintingpanzers Год назад +3

    I could watch this series 100 times and it still wouldn't get old! I wonder what direction the HYW would've taken if the Black Prince didn't die so young?!

    • @Jack-xg1kg
      @Jack-xg1kg Год назад +3

      It's been a long time since I studied the HYW but I suspect the structural issues that lead to England's eventual defeat would still have panned out the same way.
      England still wouldn't have been able to pay for and maintain its garrisons; the occupied territories would always have remained just that - occupied, not assimilated; the disparate, culturally French, factions would still have eventually united to drive out the English. England had no shortage of inspiring, skilled commanders after Edward, but they were never able to field armies on the same scale as the French or wield the same financial muscle.

    • @spamhonx56
      @spamhonx56 Год назад

      @@Jack-xg1kg That sounds about right. Leaders can do a certain amount to draw in funds and gather allies, provide high-level political momentum to maintain wars, but there's a limit to it. The only way the HYW could have ended any other way would be if the black prince stuck around long enough to intimidate the french into an unconditional surrender, since outright beating of a kingdom the size of france wasn't ever really on the cards unless a lot of french nobles switched sides.

    • @robert-surcouf
      @robert-surcouf Год назад

      @@spamhonx56 The Black prince died in 1376 (46 years old) while the Valois reconquest was between 1369 and 1375.
      In 1358, the 2nd London treaty gave Edward 3 half of france but un 1375, the only Edward continental possessions were Bayonne, Bordeaux, Brest and Calais (less than before the war) while the black prince was still in command.
      When the black prince died, it was only the final nail in the coffin and the tide has turn a long time before.
      Even if the black prince has survived, the Plantagenet were already on the losing end and the Black prince will ruled for 10 years (20 at best).
      What really hurts Eward 3 and the black prince was Charles 5 coronation in 1364 and the death of many great english commanders in the 1360s like Henry of grosmont in 1361 or John Chandos in 1369.

  • @nikolatomic5287
    @nikolatomic5287 2 дня назад

    french nobles were quite stupid at the time. most of the battles that you can see on this channel, is french attack one at the time. english stand and let them attack.

  • @dustintacohands1107
    @dustintacohands1107 Год назад +1

    I really can’t understand why so many French military men left their king to fight alone ?!?!? Why did so many of his army leave really??? Was communication really that bad or did the French king have problems with disloyalty???

  • @comeandgetthem
    @comeandgetthem 4 месяца назад

    If king john never dispatched any of his commanders and ordered an allout assault maybe things could have turned out differently

  • @gyanganga531
    @gyanganga531 Год назад +1

    Sacrifice for algorithm

  • @farright118
    @farright118 Год назад

    Dude you didn't talk about the amount of troops and the casualties plus you didn't cover the outcome of this battle the ransoming and the land gained by England

  • @selvoselvo1
    @selvoselvo1 4 месяца назад

    How not to fight a battle, with the enemy who is at the edge of their supplies, in a strong fortified position, and doing it piecemeal. He should have just wait and harass their foraging, and attack with cavalry while they were on the move.

  • @ultraginge1990
    @ultraginge1990 8 месяцев назад

    Another example of an army just leaving and giving their opponents a chance. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

  • @Sod1es
    @Sod1es Год назад

    My Lord! This is cringe, we must retreat, and rush B no cap🧢! Shit is not bussin

  • @cortexavery1324
    @cortexavery1324 Год назад

    Idk where you learned you should pronounced the "e" at the end of charles but you can drop that, you're good on the "ch" pronounciation otherwise.

  • @МихаилРадулов-й4т

    hahah nobles just as the politicians today. Enemy is taking over a good chunck of your south teritory so why not trow a party in a northern city cuz why not.