Age of Mythology Retold: Deep Dive, Game Analysis.
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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This was your best replay and strategic analysis so far!
The new tools for arrows etc helped a lot and you covered a huge amount of ground.
-map analysis (identifying the most valuable locations)
-What do do when behind general ideas (also depending on your civ)
-Why some of these ideas are bad and what to do in the specific scenario.
-applying pressure
-choke points x10
-attack strategies
And I will probably find more when I rewatch this.
A solid 10/10 video!
Once again thank you for all the effort and time you put into this!!
thanks!
useful comment for studying, thanks.
As a former aoe4/aoe 2 player with 1/2 thousand $$ cash prize won I can say your videos on retold are really dope and your pedagogy is spectacular. Keep up the good work i hope you get rewarded for that in the near future
IamMATHic should be your name 😊
best explanations, best articulated strategy, logic and logistics, it's just.... cheffs kiss 😙👌
I like the arrows. Good addition
I have seen many "pro" players like beasty and others in ao4, BUT NONE OF THEM EXPLAINS SUCH A GOOD STUFF LIKE YOU DID IN THIS FEW VIDEOS :D pls keep it up bro, we need more of this content for the comunity :3 THANK YOU AND REGARDS.
3:00 dude with giant hammer casually beating a baboon in Siberia colorized
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- Winter 1908, colorized
Hi Magic I wanted to thank you for your latest video. I really enjoyed it and learned some valuable things that have already improved my gameplay. I especially loved the format you used, with the red arrows visually highlighting the weak points you were talking about. That approach was incredibly informative, and I think it’s a huge plus for casual players looking to improve.
I wanted to suggest an idea for a video that I believe could be very useful. How about creating a video dedicated to structure positioning? I’m sure you could offer great advice and tips on how to optimize positioning in different game scenarios, something that many players don’t always fully understand.
This kind of content would be really helpful both for players looking to enhance their strategy and those who want to dive deeper into the more tactical aspects of the game. With your ability to teach and explain things clearly, I’m confident it would be a hit.
Thanks again for all the content you provide!
Thank you! For sure that’s a great topic to cover in the future, appreciate the kind words!
The content and format have been terrific. I just started multiplayer and this has taken me from flailing around to a win streak. The new tools I thought added great visualisation to your explanations. Some people need that (like me) to bank the knowledge. I eagerly await the next video!
This is my first RTS game ever. You have made the barrier to entry much easier to climb over. Loved this video and would love to see more games from your POV like the Gaia video. Great content overall, thanks for what you do
Man this was one the videos that theached the most about the game untill now, thank u so much, ur way of teaching is realy really great.
Still new to the game so I'm mostly focused on memorising my hotkeys and build orders for efficiency sake. However I really enjoy watching these videos so I can start to understand how games are won/lost. As you say a lot of games are won by your opponent "scamming" and losing a game that should have been a win (and vice-versa).
I'll make sure to watch my replays when I eventually hop on ladder
Very useful insight. I just subscribed. The arrows do actually help visualise what you're saying.
Decided to lock in Norse as my main, specifically Loki. Your knowledge has been invaluable in helping me learn how to play better!
Also the way you manage your economy throughout all of this is amazing, something I'm definitely struggling with currently is knowing how to progress my economy from the early game to mid/late game, especially while under pressure from your opponent.
Thank you for all these videos! Can't wait to see more from you!
EDIT: My god, I just saw at the end you were also putting pressure on his gold mine on the far left of the map... You're truly an AoM legend.
Hey man, love your videos. I highly request a Freyr Build Order guide. Thanks a lot and keep doing what you're doing! ❤
Amazing video and commentary. The arrows help a lot with understanding the points you're making (pun intended).
Honestly, I think more game analysis videos that focus on decision making, like this one, would be great. Or maybe more videos that use your excel doc to help predict how fights are going to go. The homework you gave about how many vills were needed for contstant training of certain units was super helpful.
Another banger, always appreciate your videos. I am a Freyr main, but am new to the game and not confident in making my own build orders. So I have been playing Odin according to your build order and been enjoying it. But I will be happy when you finally make a Freyr build order video so I have an idea how to start his opening. Every video you release his helpful though.
I tried the Odin build order vs the Hard Isis AI, but I kind of got creamed both times. The start is good, but Isis seems to get a LOT of troops very quickly, and have highly defensible positions with their city building. I figure the early all in strategy against her isn't working very well. These videos definitely help me see how much of a difference positioning makes in fights and how I can try to build my cities as defensibly as possible to take better engagements. I appreciate all the hard work :)
thank you!
Please make more of these videos. Came from League of legends grandmaster and I struggle to find strategic in-depth analysis gameplay for age of empires 4 and mythology retold. Will definitely keep this video in mind from now on
Great vid bud and the learner in me is really happy with the onscreen tips and lines keep em coming thx
This video was awesome. Like it a lot. Very good insights.
One thing that could help a lot is to use some kind of list. I saw many RUclips RTS couchs (day9, in SC2; Grubby, in W3; Spirit of the law, in AoE2) using notepad and online simple wrinting tools to explain build orders, concepts and showing some numbers in the game.
For example: in this video at the beggining you could have a list of the methods we will see in the explanation like: using choke points, pressure > turtling makes enemy make mistakes, composition surprise/counter (and some tips to read the oponent composition), manage economy optimly, TC count management (and scout as suport of this).
Having a list to come back to organize the ideas in our heads to follow your train of thought. And also help to make the video script to don't forget any important point you wanna make.
The draw tools were very nice suport to teach paths, choke points and positioning. Very cool.
Amazing video! Love the indepth-ness of the video and arrows visualising your explanation. Much higher quality than before. ❤
Love your strategy content, very different from others and offers great value!
keep on painting ;)
Awesome video, and I think the arrows/boxes help a lot to visualise your thoughts, especially when there are multiple things at once! The cursor can only ever be at one place at a time, and is less visible too.
Man, i love this format of vídeos. Much informations
Your explanations are even better than the strategies and the skill. Amazing videos!
looking forward to more of your content love the vids man
Thank you for the excellent analysis!
Something you don't mention is the way he control his units, grouping/moving together chariot archer and priest/lance/xxx who are waaayyy slower and allows you to catch a lot of slowed chariot archer that you should have not catch if moving full speed
Thank you these are way more helpful than you'd think, detailed analysis like this one are goated
The best videos! So Worth to stop and watch the whole video, studying and learning 👏🏻
Magic u are doing a really great content. Keep it up bro!
Love your content, so enjoyable and interesting to watch you explain your thought process!
Hey Magic, I love your content and your builds are easy to learn and follow. I was wondering if you could do video on how to create early army compositions with each civ and whats strong early then what to transition late game. I sometimes can't response to early agression.
Good idea ! Just need a bit of time as qualifiers for redbull are coming up then I’ll post lots
Nice videos. I play alot of AoE2 and AoE4 but having quite the trouble with AoM. Game is way more fast paced and punishing than AoE I feel. You explain your thought proces very well.
I liked the arrows and boxes a TON. I could really see you being able to switch colors and diagram out the factors in a large battle between what each players units should/could do. That would be awesome for learning if it's not too cumbersome!
I need more content from u I love ur videos
Very nice vid, love the analysis style content!
Great video! What would be interesting to see is how to deal with a Hades archer mass once your army gets cleared. (I got whooped badly with this, I held and expanded to the sides massed raiding cav, charged but he pulled in a curse and Rex lions into gg.) Maybe should've gone Odin Ring Giver Jarls ?
In AOE2, AOE3 if they have a mass, it comes down to landing a juicy siege shot. I tried using upgraded trolls but my micro/mental was just off. :)
Our community have a few good players
Spreading your knowledge is nice to make competitive and attractive
Good job
that was so interesting. I literally opened to see the first 10 seconds to watch later and found myself completely absorbed for 15 min
Good stuff, love me some loki action
keep up with the good job. nice content
Ghost Lake is such an iconic map
These breakdowns are gold.
Love your vids. Really not a lot of videos discussing strategies and what exactly can you do in different states of the game.
This is an excellent format and the arrows are great. Hope to see more videos like this
A piece of feedback I have is the title of the video - I think calling it a replay review does this video format a disservice. Maybe something more like "game analysis" or "in-depth game analysis"?
great idea, thank you!
Ty you save the day again!
yeah he's just the goat of aom.
I hope you will upload more of this "replay review". Its very good, tools (red aarow and stuff) are very usefull =)
Hey Magic! Just FYI you're one of these "Top players" in case you didn't notice bro. Thanks for your videos!
great video
I hope you get 1 million subscriber soon
I like the arrows/tools!
Wow!! Very good video, congrats!!
very interesting, thanks
Your videos helped me so much! Thanks for sharing
Really enjoyed the video!
Option 4: outboom and 3 TC + maybe a village center
Kind of sketchy as Loki though
Would love a vid on water map build orders
Another great video! It would be really helpful if you could also talk a little bit about what your opponent could have done here. Build a few siege towers and press their advantage? How did you know during the game you were so behind on eco?
You can feel it, since he had a tc up for so much longer than me and I didn’t do enough damage
I think if he managed his economy better he’d have won, he faltered a bit under the pressure I believe
Very nice arrows
Wow you know what you’re doing!
Great video as always!
Any chance to add you in-game to watch you play/your replays? Thanks in advance, I hope also to meet you in-game to learn even more :D
Extremely good video
j'adore tes videos! continue comme ca grâce à toi je progresse
Hi bud! This is the 4th video i've watched on your you tube channel! AWESOME STUFF HERE. Those trees moving with the units in the video here was funny :D Just one question! Would you be willing to coach people to success in AOM Retold? You definately deserve to be a full time pro, that's for sure. Looking forward to your reply, cheers Richard.
Hey man, thanks for the kind words, unfortunately I don’t have enough free time atm to do coaching, but it’s something I want to do in the future at some point
Love these types of videos. Would you be able to go through unit compositions for each civ? I'm usually not sure what to make and just scout and make the counter to my opponent.
Also I'm not sure how to siege well as Atlanteans.
sure just give me some time, i'll do a video!
Please, if u can, make a exclusive Hades order guide !!! thanks !!!! its my favorite divinity.
Great video, super interisting. Could we inverse the analysis a little bit and take the point of view from the Egyptian guy ? What do you think he had to do ?
I feel at this stage of the game that the "macro" strategy is by far most important. As an Isis player, I learnt very soon I should not play late game versus Greek for example, I need to be agressive (I'm not able to be agressive as Isis, I feel weak age 2 and only a quick transi to age 3 with god powers & better units worth it).
To sum up, I really think it is more a strategy game like chess, depending on match-up, map, gods powers; more than multi-tasking or micro. For instance, some very good players at other RTS games actually struggle on AOM (they don't really overcome theirs opponents with multi-tasking, maybe due to auto-vills...)
Thanks and keep going, that's great.
I think he was too consumed with fighting and didn’t manage his economy and his base well enough, he should also have tried to raid more
nice game looks really clean with fsr
Already favourite aom youtuber ❤
Loving the educational drawing on the maps btw
Hi, I'm new here and I'm actively learning to play. You can share tips for improving the quality of the game - the use of button binding, tips for controlling different parts of the map, and so on! Wonderful channel, thanks for the video
I did that in the settings video/answering user questions, check that out let me know if there's anything specific you want to know!
Good Video
Loved the explanation
Thanks for all the great content. Really enjoing it and im learning a lot.
One question if i may ask: How can i see the radius of my buildings like monuments or towers for example?
I think there's a setting (check out answering viewer questions I think I went over all my settings in there, if it's, not there check out the video I made for optimal settings) if you can't find it let me know!
@@IamMagicAOM i allready watched all of those videos and copied most of it but i dont think it was in there. Could be wrong though. Thanks for the fast answer!
pretty good video
Your are a best!!
This is masterclass basically. You could’ve played around a bit more with the fog of war button during the vid, to not have it revealed all the time
Good idea!
How do we transition to farms? And when? Could you make a video on this topic? Like, I wonder how do you keep up with the micro on the resources. I mean, sometimes I get distracted and suddenly I have 20 workers idle for I don’t know how long because they finished hunting or they chopped all the trees… Also I’ve noticed sometimes I don’t have them distributed in the most efficient way, so either I’m missing resources for buildings or for army, or upgrades. Thank you!
Good points I will try to remember to address these in the next one
Would you consider doing a Freyr guide? Would love to see your thoughts.
for sure, soon!
I see Eric chose to go Mythic instead of using the gold to build farm at base and migdol at the west gold mines. He probably thought going mythic may win him the game, which turns out to be not the case, and the decision creates a resource crisis later, which contributes the loss. So, the lesson is if we are not certain we can end the game, it is safer to first invest in securing the next resources before investing in higher techs?
Also, chopping the front tree line which serves as a natural wall between the two tcs creates a vulnerability of the main base. Perhaps, chopping the back woods, or fortify/wall the opening may help?
yeah great points, agreed!
Can you make a video where you fight the legendary AI using the 2 tc rain ra build order? I know fighting pro players are harder but I want to see what to youll do witj the constant raiding etc. And how will it affect the timings etc. Thanks!
The amount of multitasking with the economy and maintaining the army in the front is crazy I can't keep up with both how do you do it and I'm using Xbox too lol
Amazing content!
You guys watching this, don't forget to subscribe AND like the videos.
Great vid. What do you think your opponent should do once you were of similar strenght? It seemed like you won so decisivelly in the end.
Edit: Hm, I am checking that he has 4K wood. So he probably just got overwhelmed. :P
yep!
Another vid I would love to see is different transitions after advancing.
For example, the opponent here going for a quick 2nd tc. Whats the good/bad for that? It seems here like you said, if you let them take a quick 2nd tc, youre already behind. Why not always go for a quick 2nd tc? Just trying to understand like, ok I got age 2, now what are my options....
It’s hard for Norse to match an Egyptian second tc since Norse build with military units they need to amass a force before taking a tc
Iammagic, I remember watching a video that you made about tactics vs strategy and I swore it was on your channel. Did you remove it or was it somewhere else? You had an excel spreadsheet breaking down key points of tactics and strategy and I believe the map you were playing on in the videos was Oasis(?).
yeah that's the 'effective decision making guide' it's still there!
@@IamMagicAOM odd I cant find it on your channel. must be a youtube bug.
Haven't played this new version a lot, but I feel its way faster than it used to be, in my memories advancing at 4:00 was very risky and you almost had to win early. What changed? Gathering rates? Last time I played was in 2005.
there's a ton of changes, it's almost like a new game entirely! but yeah gather rates are faster now I believe.
This Arrow very good
Sick Video!
My man
This is so awesome
My man
Can talk more about when to get tc?
How do you feel about eggy charriots? They feel pretty weak to me. Slow rate of fire, expensive, can miss attacks, no bonus damage, not tanky (hopefully), need a 400 gold production buiding to be created, is half archer, half cavalery, which makes them even more susceptible to counter... I found them to be a bit lackluster at the end of the day. I do wonder if going full infantry is not a better move for eggy, especially with Horus and all his upgrades.
Agree with everything you said.
Also overall slow training time
Its sad that you have to play and win the El Reinado. You would be great caster
Also his macro towards the end is terrible, he is starved on food (no farmers ?) while having 1k gold and 4k wood in bank. He litteraly can't produce units ...
Hi thanks to your videos I am learning a lot, I would like to start playing pvp but it gives me anxiety, can you talk about how to manage these emotions? Since you play at a professional level thank you
I get anxiety too, I think it's normal but at the end of the day just remember that it doesn't matter, win/lose nothing will change really, the important part is that you're improving and getting better, don't worry about winning/losing for now.
@@IamMagicAOM thank you❤️
At arround 11:30 wouldn't it be also good to invest the ressources not into the TC, but instead a hillfort? Since at that point you're trying to push damage and the TC delays that?
I think it would be only if the hill fort can block a gold mine or a vital area, if I put a hill fort in front of his base he can kind of just ignore it and since his gold was on the opposite side it’s a bit difficult
I have problem deciding when to spend resources on upgrading units vs just buying more units. Is there any good rule of thumb when to upgrade the soldiers you have and when to just produce more soldiers?
there's a lot of variables that play into it but for me, i'd probably like to get them after I have a few units out, so if I were making raiding cavalry, i'd make around 5-10 and then get it. you can apply that logic to most units
Thanks for the videos, Kind of an unrelated question, is there a hotkey so that your berserk does not stop building when being harassed?
I think its stand ground on the unit itself, I'm not entirely sure though i'll have to check next time I play
@@IamMagicAOM Thanks, actually was checking myself and seems like this is no longer necessary and they will just keep building no matter what stance, I was just curious to know if this was a thing still but seems like it is not.
Hi I appreciate your videos. Do you have a discord server? Trying to find people to play with in the community is tough.
Check out the keen gaming discord run by a friend of mine
discord.gg/XcxTW45W
Also Boit has one of the biggest communities around
discord.gg/TT4MUVse