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In this video we take a look at the Flysimware Cessna 414AW Chancellor, within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We will be taking the aircraft on a hop from Gunnison Regional Airport (KGUC), up to Grand Junction (KGJT), via the MTJ VOR. The aircraft is still in an "early access" state, so lets see whether or not it's worth taking the plunge early. . .
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! 
Игры
2022 is gonna be 3rd party addon heaven for msfs
I hope so. I get concerned though with “early access”. A lot of “EA” stuff never gets really completed. I’m sure when the companies release and EA product their heart is in the right place but now they have the money made off the product, sometimes the motivation to either make a final release, or the quality just isn’t there.
It's certainly looking very promising! : )
I think this happens a lot. I doubt there are too many companies that set out with the intention of ripping customers off, but there is certainly a long list of projects that have fallen by the wayside over the years.
"Early Access" is such an unknown quantity these days as well; with projects like this, that are excellent in their own right, all the way through to a largely incomplete and buggy mess. To complicate matters further, "finished" products are often anything but these days; the C414 for example is in a far better state than some fully-fledged addons we've seen in MSFS so far.
Unfortunately these sorts of practices seem to be prevalent not just in the hobby, but throughout consumer products in general. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
I love your reviews, they are my go-to when I'm looking at a new add-on! My only request would be that you start to include a segment flying at night to go over and review the lighting, both interior and exterior!
Thanks very much Ohmmshoo, really glad you're enjoying the content and finding it of use! : )
That's a very reasonable request and one I get semi-regularly. It's something I try to include when I remember. Unfortunately I generally have so many things to cover during a review, that I invariably forget one or two things along the way (and night lighting often tends to be one of them for whatever reason haha). I shall re-double my efforts to try and remember for next time! ; )
Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Are you familiar with checklists? 🙂 (sorry, I couldn't resist)
A company that offers its manual online for free even before we have purchased their product deserves all my respect! The Cessna 414 manual is one of the most beautiful manuals I have seen to date (I am an Art Director in advertising). Congratulations Flysimware! Agree with absolutely everything you recommended. When it's done, they will have a new very satisfied customer!
That's a very good point 06L! It's always nice to be able to see the manual ahead of time, get a feel for the product etc. Looking at it through layman's eyes, I'm certainly inclined to agree; a very nicely laid out and refined manual, very pleasing on the eye. Generally speaking the quality of the aircraft is no different.
As and when you pick up the C414 then, I do hope you enjoy it!
Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you. I bought it. It improves the quality of FS2020!
Ah nice! Yeah, it’s a cracker isn’t it ; )
Happy flying! : )
The instrument dials are very clear and easy to read. Programmers did a very good job.
They are indeed. The panel is very nicely done overall! : )
Cheers!
Excellent review, gonna pick it up. Looks like a solid showing and it'll only get better. Thanks for another thorough review man.
Cheers Marshie, my absolute pleasure!
I hope you're enjoying the C414 then. It has it's faults, but it's already top notch and seems to be getting better with every update. Really enjoying it myself!
Happy flying : )
I couldn’t resist this aircraft and the hot fix updates have been a success one of the most enjoyable aircraft in sim. Cheers Charlie
Haha, understandable Charlie - at least it's not one where you're going to suffer any buyers remorse thereafter.
Great to hear that the patches have done their job! I haven't actually had another chance to fly the C414 since the review myself. I agree though, one of the most enjoyable aircraft in the sim to date.
Happy flying! : )
Another well flown, managed and enjoyable flight Great job!
Phill! It’s been a while! I hope you’re keeping well? : )
Thanks very much as always. Very happy to hear that you enjoyed the flight.
All the best!
Great review as always. This one goes on my buy-list as soon as I've updated my hardware. A bit shocked to hear you get 80+ fps - I knew my processor was a bottleneck but didn't realise by quite how much!
Thanks once again Adam! The C414 still still has some issues, but I think it’s very worthy of a position on any “must buy” list. FSW have also been very active with patches since release.
Haha, well I only run at 1080p and the “High End” preset, so that probably accounts for my fairly decent FPS. I only upgraded my processor fairly recently and whilst it gave a nice little bump to MSFS, I was totally shocked to see how much quicker the new processor performs some other tasks (video processing for example). It terms of raw speed, the new one wasn’t a tonne quicker than the old one, but my gosh has the tech moved on over the last 5 years!
Good luck with the upgrade! All the best : )
Excellent review as always. This looks absolutely top notch quality and Flysimware as a developer have continued to improve every year and it looks like they are pretty near the top of the tree now. Hopefully other developers will aspire to their levels of excellence and they would do well to match this for quality and depth.
Thanks very much Mark!
Yes completely agree, FSW really impressed with this one. For me, this one came as a little bit of a surprise; I had the Bell 47G for FSX / P3D back in the day and rather enjoyed it, but their Wigeon for MSFS certainly looked to be nothing special visually - the C414 is in a completely different league.
MSFS has proven to be a little bit of a shame with some of the bigger developers, not really putting in the work thus far, but it's been really great to see some of the smaller, more obscure devs stepping up and producing some absolutely top quality products!
I'm very much enjoying the C414 and it's been great to see how proactive FSW have been with patches / updates as well. Hats off to them!
Cheers and all the best! : )
I literally was hoping one hour ago you would make a video of this aircraft! 😄
Haha, well you can't ask for much better service than that then! ; )
It's always really nice to hear when people are thinking of the channel for these sorts of things. Thanks very much and all the best! : )
I really enjoy watching your review. Very detailed and well prepared.
Thanks very much Khaled, really glad you enjoyed it! Cheers for watching and all the best : )
Thanks for your videos, I really enjoy watching them every evening. I too have a genuine passion for aviation and always have done as far back as I can remember, so much so I’m currently building a full size 737 sim. I love how you try to simulate real flight as much as possible. Keep up the great work as I look forward to seeing what’s coming up next.
My absolute pleasure SBUK, really glad you're enjoying them!
Haha, well we definitely fall into the same category there then - flying was all I ever wanted to do. That's awesome for the home cockpit; always thought it might be nice to build one myself one day, I definitely don't have the time or the space at the moment though - I'll have to check out some of your vids when I get a chance and live vicariously through you ; )
Thanks very much for the kind words and best of luck with the build! : )
Great review for a good looking product. I wasn't overly impressed with Flysimware aircraft in the past but it seems they have really come of age. Good visuals and sounds with just a few niggles needing a touch up. I agree with you, I have seen "finished" aeroplanes not nearly as good as this.
Thanks Squirel!
Yes, I had their Bell 47 in FSX / P3D which I did rather enjoy, but the MSFS Wigeon looked verrry dated graphically, so I was rather surprised to see the quality of this one when it released! I'm not a big fan of "early access", but this is how it should be done - a high quality product off the bat and lots of updates thereafter.
The C414 has it's issues for sure, but nevertheless it's one of my favorite additions to the sim thus far! : )
All the best!
Thanks to your review I bought this, Absolutely love it! At first I was thought I was having a major problem with the sensitive pitch, and my yoke. Later realized I had increased the sensitivity instead of decreasing.
Anyway, with 50% less sensitive elevator and a Honeycomb setup, it's extremely satisfying and immersive. Feels like an A2A airplane!
Ah well I’m glad you were ultimately happy with your purchase Jacob! The C414 is a superb offering and has come on in leaps and bounds since my initial review. In my opinion, the Chancellor is one of the best addons available for the sim and is an aircraft that I often come back to (it would be lovely to see some failure modelling, but that would just be the icing on the cake).
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Great review, it's nice to finally see a highly detailed twin for MSFS. Subbed!
Thank you very much good sir and welcome aboard! : )
Yes, like most things in MSFS, we waited for 1 decent twin and now we are likely to have 2 in quick succession haha (not that I'm complaining!). The C414 is a very nice effort overall and whilst it did release (in early access) with a number of issues, it's been great to see that FSW have been very proactive about fixing them. One of my favorite MSFS additions to date.
On a slight tangent: I hear you've been in the wars a bit of late. I was very sorry to hear about that! I had meant to comment on your post, but was logged in on the wrong account at the time. I do hope you're healing up ok. I gather you're still alright as far as VR goes, so at least you've got the perfect way to while away a few hours whilst you heal up. Wishing you a speedy recovery!
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thankyou I really appreciate your well wishes :) It's certainly been a challenging time but as you say, least I can still ''fly'' in VR and ride my motorcycle to keep my mind off things (as the injury is on my lip/mouth area). I can't believe it's taken me this long to sub I'm so sorry! Keep up your great content, I've been really enjoying watching some of your previous videos too, they're first class! Take care.
This looks interesting. I'm happy to see a Cessna that isn't a default or Carenado aircraft haha. The default 152/172 are fairly decent to be fair, but the Carenado iterations are largely very wishy-washy.
May get this if it ever comes to the marketplace.
Good video as always, sir.
Thanks very much Michael!
Yeah, the C414 is a very nice offering overall - certainly worthy of consideration if it does make its way onto the Marketplace (and hopefully all of the bugs will have been ironed out by then).
I quite enjoy the default Cessna's and (dare I say it) actually most of Carenado's output as well haha! I haven't tried the C182T mind you and I gather that is probably the weakest of their bunch. I would love a 182 for the sim, but not with a glass cockpit. . .
I always forget that Cessna make twins as well haha, but actually they make some really nice airframes and this is definitely one of them!
Thanks as always! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations You like the Carenado's? Why, that's heresy, sir!!!
Haha. Said with tongue firmly planted in-cheek, as I jest. I actually have a soft spot for the YMF-5. I do not like the C182 at all, and I only bought the PA28 as the Just Flight offerings have eluded me thus far (I have a Series X and a velocity one yoke, and they'renot available yet due to coding issues). Although to be fair, it's actually alright. It's just not anywhere near as good as the JF offerings.
By the way, are you planning on doing a Boeing 247 review? My word, she looks absolutely epic. Attention to detail is astounding.
Very nicely done! You've sold me. You mentioned the in.Hg. - It's common to indicate the pressure as just three digits (992 = 29.92 and so on). In fact, the format for entering altimeter settings into the NAS at an Air Route Traffic Control sector is "Time/Station/Pressure" and formatted as: AS 0245 GUC 989 - This would display as "0245 GUN 989" on the scope (at least for ARTCC's) but be read as Gunnison altimeter two niner eight niner.
Thanks very much Don, I’m glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you enjoy the C414! The aircraft still has its issues, but the dev has been very proactive in putting out patches since release (and it is a great addon overall).
Really appreciate the info as well! I figured that might be what’s going on - not something I’d ever come across myself before though. Now I shall know for the future ; )
Cheers and happy flying! : )
Another great video Sir.:) Also the sound is really something. Like the combo of instruments.
This is going to be my first payware.
Thanks very much once again! It’s always easier making a decent video with a decent aircraft haha.
The C414 definitely has a few issues that need resolving (a patch is imminent though I gather), but I think you’re really going to enjoy it overall! I certainly have been.
I do apologise - buying your first payware aircraft is probably the start of a slippery slope! : P
Happy flying! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations muhehe, definitely. Hopefully won't get as bad as with iRacing 😁
GREAT flight and review. For a "beta" release, there were very few issues. The auto pilot is not a problem, rather an issue to be reported to the developer. At this price, I think I will add it to the hangar. I don't purchase every plane available, but like to have a few g1000 single and twins and the same with an older cockpit. This will fill the bill for an "older twin". Thanks again for putting in the time to make such quality videos.
Thanks very much once again Mark!
Yes, beta and even “finished” tend to be very loose terms these days, covering all sorts of states of competition haha. The autopilot is the only major issue I’ve had with the aircraft personally, but as you say, the developer will be aware of it and fixing it up I’m sure. I guess anyone who purchases, knows that they are technically beta testing anyway.
Indeed the C414 definitely has a bit of its own niche at the moment. It’s the only high-fidelity, steam gauge twin currently available. That may not be the case for long, with the MILVIZ C310 just around the corner, but I’m very happy with my C414 for now at any rate! : )
Cheers and all the best!
the CLEAR PROP shout a the monitor screen always makes me laugh
Currently enjoying the MV310R in VR, which is an awesome aircraft. Now I want this! Love the updated engine sounds noted in your other video. BTW, two years ago I took a mountain flying course in CO. I flew a C182 from KMTJ to KTEX under the guidance of an amazing CFI. What an incredible experience! Landing at Telluride was a dream come true for me (thanks to FSX). It's the highest "commercial" airport in North America at 9070' MSL. Lake Co (Leadville) is the highest altitude public airport - 9934' MSL (no commercial flights). I got my PPL on the east coast (NJ) twenty five years ago, so seeing the beauty of the Rocky Mountains was breathtaking! 😊 Going to purchase the 414 now. I was on the verge of getting the BlackSquare KA350, but the 414 looks like a much better choice. Thanks for these videos...great job 👍🏾
Well, I hope you’re enjoying the C414 then, RP! The chancellor is a superb addon and just keeps going from strength to strength.
Flying into Telluride must have been amazing! Like you, I first discovered the airport in FSX (or thereabouts), completely by accident and even with the rather more rudimentary scenery available back then, was instantly enamoured with the location. I can only imagine that it’s a truly breathtaking (and challenging) place to visit.
My pleasure on the videos! Happy flying and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes! Visiting TEX was amazing and I'm so glad I had an incredible CFI and I have cockpit video and audio to review forever.😃 We originally were going to land on rwy 09, then he suggested that we turn around and land on 27. He said it would make great video footage capturing the mountains in the turn. As for the chancellor, it is indeed a superb aircraft and I'm enjoying her immensely! The more I fly it, the more I realize what an awesome job they have done. Took her up at night and was blown away by the glowing turbochargers! Wow, incredible levels of detail they've put into this thing. Like nothing I've seen in thirty plus years of flight simming on PC.
Just bought this addon because of this amazing review. The sounds blew my mind, just wow at the quality of this addon. The camera views need some love though.
Ah well I’m glad the review was useful in helping you to decide whether to purchase!
Haha, the camera views definitely need some love, as does the automation. It’s already a pretty fantastic addon though and it’s going to be one of the best, once the various issues are ironed out.
Happy flying! : )
Wonderful review as always ITTBS!!! You’ve become one of my favorite sim aircraft reviewers and I value your opinions and feelings! A few things I noticed while flying the aircraft: Same as you, I had difficulty exercising the props. Found out you need to place the prop levers in the feather detent and pluck it out to elicit the desired effect (doesn’t seem right). Rudder are still quite sensitive on takeoff for me, curious to see what your sensitivity settings are for your sim if you have a free moment! When I attempted a go around, carrying quite a bit of speed, and added 3/4 throttle, the RPM peaked and stayed at 4000 RPM. Well above the red arc. It wasn’t until I added full throttle that the needles finally settled below the red arc. A fellow streamer mentioned, regarding the altitude hold issue you presented, is due to the aircraft potentially using GPS altitude and not barometric. Just something to be aware of. I’m loving this plane and hope that these matters get addressed to really bring this plane head and shoulders above the rest! Thank you again for what you do my friend!!! Cheers!!!
Thank you very much indeed for the kind words Hawks! Really glad you’re enjoying the channel / content.
I’d be surprised if the prop issue isn’t a bug, but it’s always hard to be sure with these things, unless you’ve actually flown the aircraft (which I haven’t). I’ve never flown a twin that didn’t respond on the props during the runup, but then again, I haven’t flown all that many twins haha. The Carenado C337 and Arrow III had the same issue on release. . .
I run a -50 curve on my rudder axis, so fairly aggressive. Obviously you sacrifice some finer control at the extremes (hence my dodgy engine-out work haha), but I find it does temper down the sims rudder issues a little bit. Others have said the same as yourself though regarding the takeoff; I found the aircraft tracked very nicely and when I did put in minor corrections, all was fine. . . It’s all relative though I suppose ha, I think it’s an improvement over most other addons I’ve flown at any rate.
Haha, that’s kind of funny re the autopilot / altitude. I figured it must be using a different reference, since it was flying 13,700ft so nicely. Should be an easy fix then at least.
Overall though, the C414 is an absolute diamond in the rough! I expect the issues will get ironed out and then it’s going to be right up there as one of the absolute best addons available currently in the sim. I’ve been having a blast with it, just a lot of hand flying haha!
Thanks very much once again. Really appreciate it! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the speedy response my friend!!! It appears he’s sent an email to all those who’ve purchased the plane, addressing some of the potential fixes on the horizon. I will try dropping my rudder sensitivity to -50 and see how she handles! Keep up the great work and I look forward to your next video!!!
Another great video, just wanted to point out "show copilot" isn't only for exterior, but also interior in 1st person. This is really great to see as a true sim a real copilot is essential.
Haha, don’t know how I missed that - he must have been sitting there very quietly! ; )
Cheers!
Another very helpful review, thank you! I am seriously considering this twin.
I picked this up and am quite happy with the purchase. £15 per engine! 😉 A very enjoyable aircraft to fly. I am happy to have it. Thanks again you your excellent reviews.
Thanks very much Snowy! Always a pleasure - I'm glad you found the review helpful.
I'm happy you're enjoying the C414; it's one of my favorites in the sim currently and FSW seem to have been very proactive with bug fixes and updates, so that's great to see.
Haha, you can't go too far wrong at £15 per engine!
Happy flying! : )
The plane landed yesterday on Xbox and I am in love. Thank you you didn’t promise too much. I am in love !!
Ah awesome Michael, I'm glad you're enjoying it! The C414 is indeed an excellent addon. Happy flying! : )
Very similar to the Caravan in the cockpit.
Designer told "make a slimmer and faster twin prop version of the c208." And here it is !
Great review ITB, I was hoping you’d put up a review video so I could see how much of a beta state this aircraft was in. It certainly ticks a lot of boxes but I’ll personally be waiting for a few updates before purchasing myself. Just you wait for the Milviz 310- not far away at all now!
Thanks very much zkdos!
Yes it's definitely still a beta, although FSW have been very proactive with patches thus far (which is great to see). As you say, it shouldn't be too long now until the MILVIZ C310 arrives and that's looking excellent as well. I think the failure modelling with the 310 is going to prove to be a very strong selling point for the addon.
Cheers! : )
I'm glad to see what looks like another good near study level aircraft. I'm having serious problems trusting developers to deliver what I am looking for in a higher end plane and I'd like to some day be able to add more names alongside Just Flight and PMDG to the list I feel comfortable buying from without a hands-on test at a friend's. Everyone's expectations and demands are different and as the market matures I hope we continue to see more aircraft with challenging flight models and good systems depth.
Hi Josef,
Yes, unfortunately with MSFS so far, it's been slim pickings as far as truly high quality addons go. That being said, of course as the sim matures, we should start to see more and more offerings on the table.
PMDG and Just Flight are certainly bastions of quality thus far in MSFS. FlyingIron and MILVIZ would also get honorable mentions from me. The C414 does have its bugs currently, but FSW have been very proactive with patches and fixes. I expect the chancellor will be right up there as one of the best addons in the sim once finished.
As you say, we all want different things in terms of fidelity, but I think most of us would agree that we want a quality product. "Early access" bugs aside (I hope) the C414 certainly offers that.
Cheers and all the best! : )
I absolutely adore the Cessna 414. I'm currently on a world tour with it in VR. The recently released Beta 2.0 update added even more accurate systems and higher resolution textures. I can't wait to see what the final product will look and feel like.
Yes, the C414 is indeed a very nice effort from FSW Ruben! I'm looking forward to trying 2.0 when I get the chance - developers always seem to have a habit of updating products just after I have recorded a video in them XD
Best of luck with the world tour! Quite an undertaking but great fun (I did one myself many years ago).
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yup, sounds familiar. Whenever I install a new plane they release an update the very next day :p At least I get a notification for most of them. I checked to see if there's been an update for Red Wing's Super Constellation and apparently it's close to being finished :)
Little white button on the altitude alerter will set your autopilot to capture the set alt..... loving this plane.
Yes, thank you Robert! I was aware of the button, but I would be very surprised if the real autopilot doesn't level the aircraft off once its gone into ALT mode (regardless of whether or not it's been armed ahead of time), whether that's at the selected altitude, or the aircraft's present altitude.
I haven't used one of these specific units in the real-world, so I could certainly be wrong, but "ALT" would suggest to me that the mode should be active at that point regardless.
Cheers for the info though and all the best! : )
Looks great!
Yeah, it's a very nice effort overall! It has its issues, but so far FSW seem to have been very proactive with patches : )
Cheers Loz, all the best!
Nice video, thanks for posting.
Thanks very much Martin, my pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
This is got me excited!
Haha, well that's fair enough Caleb; it is a rather great addon overall and definitely a clear indication of what MSFS is now capable of!
All the best : )
Great review of that aeroplane. Much appreciated. Thank you very much.
As always well done. Of course my CC don't like your channel🤣 but well after some deep discussions I got that bird and it is excellent👍
Take care and stay safe.
Haha, well at least the credit card can feel safe in the knowledge that; as you purchased during early-access, you're actually saving it a little bit of pain overall! XD
I do hope you're enjoying the C414 then, I think it's great!
Thanks and all the best : )
Great review, really shows how worthwhile your presentations are in forming opinions to purchase, personally I will wait until the bugs are resolved, fairly expensive price to get the inherited issues so ably demonstrated. I must say still wonder why developers release “ nearly complete” aircraft , free testing and bug identification? Oh well looks a good option but for me will wait for the updates to fix the issues. Kind Regards and many thanks Charlie PS Reminds me of the crew transport Golden Eagles Britannia Airways operated in my day with Britannia.
Thanks very much Charlie. It's always a pleasure to hear when someone finds a video useful in terms of making a purchasing decision : )
I wonder myself why "early access" has become so prevalent, but it seems it's now here to stay (at least this one was broadly done "right"). I suppose sometimes for the smaller devs, it's necessary for a bit of a cash injection. . .
Haha, I just googled the Britannia crew transport. I have to say the little twin looks very "cute" with the full livery (always loved the Britannia livery). I do hope someone creates this paint job for the C414 at some point!
All the best!
You hit the arm button next to the altitude window right under the HSI , that will make it capture your intended ALT.
You can also use the baron 58 sounds if these aren’t up to par yet, I plan to
Thanks very much James. My understanding is that whilst one can certainly use the Alt Arm functionality to capture an altitude, it shouldn't be a requirement to hold an alt. If Alt is engaged on the autopilot itself, then it should be maintained regardless.
That's a great idea on the Baron sounds. I know people have been doing this with other addons as well (the Aeroplane Heaven P-51 for example). Personally I don't mind the C414 soundset, but you aren't the only person I've heard from that felt it is lackluster.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Great video! Usually in the real life twin Cessna’s the propeller levers won’t change rpm unless run up is done at 2,000 rpm. Checklist doesn’t state this but my experience with working on them they all seem to be that way.
Thanks LR, glad you enjoyed it!
2,000rpm certainly rings a bell for the runup on every Cessna I've every flown, but its been a long old while for me. I was using a real-world C414 checklist here though and just following along with that.
FSW have been pretty busy with updates, though I haven't had a chance to try the aircraft since this video myself - I'd be interested to see whether anything has changed in the meantime. . .
Thanks for watching and all the best! : )
Looks amazing
Hi Edward,
Yes, overall the C414 a very nice effort and continues to get better with each update! Technically the aircraft is still in early access and FSW have updated the textures, sound package, avionics, flight model etc since this was recorded.
All the best : )
ITTBS delivers again! Will be picking this beauty up!
Haha! Thank you sir ; )
Hope you enjoy the Chancellor! So long as you don’t need an autopilot, you should be reasonably golden XD
It has its issues (and I certainly hope they get fixed), but this is one I have really been enjoying myself!
Happy flying : )
Brilliant review. I was only about 5 mins into your review before going to my gaming computer to purchase this aircraft. Will look forward to exploring the many systems in this offering. Particularly nice to see the external pre flight checks screen. Won't be able to fly this until tomorrow and will be looking forward to that.
Thanks very much Terry!
Haha, well I do hope the 5 mins proved sufficient XD
The C414 still has it's issues for sure, but so far it's proven to be one of my favorite addons to date. I do hope you're enjoying it as well!
Happy flying : )
Agree with you. Overall, its a fine product. I look forward to their getting the A/P system working correctly as I really use the A/P systems on my flight sim planes. I have yet to test the A/P in the 530 equipped planes but I expect the same issues there. Thanks much!
Hi Dennis,
I have yet to try the 530 myself, but I gather it's actually worse still? FSW do seem to be very proactive with patches thus far though, so it's a promising sign that the product will have it's issues ironed out. In the meantime, a good excuse to sharpen up those hand flying skills I suppose ; )
Cheers and all the best! : )
Very happy with the purchase of this plane. Being a BETA still, i look forward to them getting the rest of the bugs worked out, but in the meantime, will enjoy flying it all over
I'm glad you're enjoying the aircraft Jason! It's great to see how proactive FSW have been with updates so far. I think its fair to say that this already excellent addon will only continue to improve. I'm also very happy with my purchase and enjoying the C414 very much indeed.
Happy flying! : )
As usual a very detailed and thoughtful review - greatly appreciated and I had already planned to purchase this, you just make me want it even more. Question: Are you using an addon of some type to get the live radio chatter , and if so what addon is it? Thank you.
Hi JG300,
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the video - hope you're enjoying the C414 as well then!
For my videos, I use recordings from LiveATC.net, that I then edit into the video. There is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that's the sort of thing you're after. I can't remember the name of the top of my head, but if you search for "MSFS ATC chatter app", I'm fairly sure you'll easily be able to find it.
I hope that helps! All the best : )
Very nice flight and review! I am torn between this 414 and the upcoming Milviz 310. In the meantime, I will just fly my new Goose ;)
Thanks very much Volker!
Indeed, a lot of tricky decisions to be made at the moment haha. I'm really enjoying the C414, but I'm expecting the MILVIZ C310 will be pretty great as well (and it will be brilliant to have the failure functionality). Shouldn't be too long to wait for the C310 now - just enough time to enjoy the Goose as you say ; )
All the best! : )
You won't be sorry purchasing this plane, it's awsome, I have it and will also be purchasing the 310 too 👌👌👌
There were from memory two different pain schemes as the years progressed hope you found them both, I would love the Brit scheme/s to be created for the 414, I also just watched your B247 video equally as good.
I did manage to find them both. Both looked good, although I prefer the mini Britannia paint job; in part because I have very fond memories of watching the Britannia jets heading into your neck of the woods (East Mids).
Cheers! : )
Couldn't believe that near enough my dream aeroplane (actually the 421) has appeared on the sim. Great review and much appreciated. Would really appreciate some pointers as to how you have set your cockpit up. Do you use track IR etc. Quite difficult to set up physical cockpits for the older school panels. Really looking forward to getting this aeroplane
Hi Ivor,
Apologies for the slow reply. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video - my pleasure!
I take it you were wondering about my hardware setup? Fairly straightforward for me. I have a Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, with a homemade mount for the joystick and throttle, a set of Saitek rudder pedals and indeed I am using Track IR. That's about it haha! Nothing too fancy, but it gets the job done : )
Cheers and all the best!
The autopilot may be using the transponder's pressure altitude, which could explain the difference in altitude setting. This looks like a real nice aircraft to use in the simulator. I heard it will be quite pricey
Thanks for the suggestion Cyril! Yeah, I was thinking it must be using a different datum, but someone else reckoned the problem was actually that it was using GPS altitude, as opposed to barometric. We do get some funny old bugs in MSFS! XD
The C414 is indeed very nice. But given it's "early access" price is already fairly steep, I imagine the final price will indeed be quite high.
All the best! : )
The only thing missing on your amazing channel is 4k!
Haha, thanks very much CDJC.
Yes, I have had 4K requested by others and of course I would love to be able to oblige; unfortunately I don't really have the hardware / setup to effectively / efficiently produce my material in 4K at the moment. I have run some trials and I wasn't really getting satisfactory results.
I will continue to look into it though; next time I upgrade my graphics card, it should hopefully be more workable.
I'm glad you're enjoying the content otherwise though! Cheers and all the best : )
Very nice review, thanks alot!
Offtopic question: do you use a plugin for the camera shake on engine startup and touchdown? If so, which?
Thanks very much Ribbon, glad you enjoyed it - my pleasure!
I do indeed use a Camera Plugin - FSRealistic. It's somewhat limited on features currently, but still worth it in my opinion. There's also a free trial, so worth checking out at any rate:
ruclips.net/video/468BM__Au8Y/видео.html
I hope that helps! All the best : )
Awesome Review! What i see a lot of sim pilots do during the cycling of the prop is feathering at high engine rpm.. This is a nit pick of mine as a mechanic if you do this you put undo strain on the engine. Just cycle them quickly - NEVER GO TO FEATHER AT POWER!
Thanks very much Justin, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
Haha, I’m sure mistakes were made: The checklist did call for a “feathering check” at 1,700rpm and whilst I thought this was a little odd, I didn’t see any other way of interpreting that statement at the time (I guess in hindsight, it really just meant to check the props). In MSFS, one generally can’t come back into the feather position using a hardware axis (I would have had to click on the levers to do that), but I take your point at any rate and will avoid damaging any more engines for you in the future haha ; )
Cheers and all the best! : )
love your reviews always, much appreciated! In regards to performance, did you happen to check if there was any frame drop with the default GTN530 vs. the 750? I use the 750Xi, and at least in the JF R-28 get a substantial drop in the VC mode but no drop if I use it as an external app on a second monitor ( I know the devs are waiting on asobo to support WASM multithreading)?
Thanks very much Lior, always a pleasure! I’m glad you enjoyed the video : )
That’s a very good point that you make actually. I think I used the GNS530 version as my baseline for the FPS, but I can’t actually remember 100% now in all honesty. I know some have been having issues with stuttering using the GTNXi; personally I haven’t, but it still would have been unfair to use it as a reference whilst testing FPS. . . One to think about in the future!
Cheers and all the best!
Very nice detailed video. You failed to mention the obvious bugs like side windows open while being locked or even with EFB in the way, the windows open trough the tablet. The main door opens but does not show in external view besides very briefly and disappears. I only fly in VR so could be all non VR optimized? And the actual rudder on the tail does not move when plane is stationary only when it's in motion and yes it's unlocked. Livery paintjob is very poor when you look at it... But great plane. I love it from day 1 when it was released as Beta. You did make a mistake pulling the "Emergency Cross feed Shut off Lever" at the start. Don't if there is no fire or gears up landing! :-) It's a great detailed plane and we need those in the sim so I'm happy to be an early adopter so the devs get the support to improve and fix all the bugs and make more super realistic planes with great sound sets. WE WANT MORE :-D
Hi Sven, thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it : )
To be honest, I didn't notice a lot of the bugs you mentioned. I tend to look at what an addon can't do, as opposed to what it can do I suppose. I generally run with a real-world checklist and if it can perform based off that, then it's all good by me. I don't generally try to "break" things. Not to say that one is wrong to do so, merely that I am happy, so long as I can operate the aircraft within its normal bounds. The door issue must be a VR bug - you can see in my video that the door stays open and visible.
I was using a real-world C414 checklist for the video and it calls for "Emergency Crossfeed Shutoff - Open"; I guess pull is the closed position then haha (this is the problem when the included manual doesn't flesh out the detail - though it was a nice manual overall)?
Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying the aircraft overall! I agree that I'd love to see more addons of this caliber!
Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Beta 1.4.1 just got released and many bugs are fixed. Auto pilot with auto approach procedure works like a dream now with latest GTN 750 RELEASE V2.1.25. I reported the other bugs so they will get fixed I'm sure. The Chancellor is now a very good, best GA plane in the sim.
Awesome! Looking forward to trying out the latest update when I get a chance then : )
Cheers Sven!
Now that is a nice surprise a 414 there is some thing about cessna twins, proper.
I somewhat always forget that Cessna even makes twins haha; but I very much agree, most of their twins do have a certain "something" to them : )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations A personal favorite is the cessna 421.
I watched this for 20 minutes before I realized it was a Flight Simulator, great job.
Haha, well I suppose that just goes to show how far flight simulation has come (it can often be hard to pick apart from reality these days - graphically at least)! I do hope it wasn't too much of a disappointment when you found out then James hehe.
Thanks very much for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I'll get over it.
; )
Haha, phew! : P
Looks alright, will be interesting to see how it compares to Milviz's Cessna 310, I know the 310 and 414 are a fair bit different but eh, both are twin engine cessnas at the end of the day.... The modelling on this 414 is really nice though, looks a lot better than their Widgeon. That table unfolding animation was quite enjoyable as well! Turbochargers aren't actually modelled at all in MSFS, just like in FSX and FS9 etc. Asobo have improved Turboprops though so hopefully one day they'll actually get around to fixing up turbochargers (as well as dozens of other things eh?). Automix doesn't cut it really.
Twin props aren't really my jam but there's been a fair few single prop GA planes released recently that I've been eyeing up: the BR Sim Designs Ercoupe 415C, the Sukhoi Su-31 by India Foxt Echo and the SWS Vans RV-14. Hoping you'll be covering at least one or two of them in the near future! There's also a SIAI-Marchetti S.205 by Nemeth but apparently their Yak-18 they released a while back is still full of bugs so ain't expecting much there.
Quite interested in the Ercoupe as the real plane is quite interesting. Designed to be apparently almost impossible to stall or spin and no rudder pedals as IRL it's linked up to the yoke movements although I read in the forum that this isn't really properly modelled unfortunately. Never bought a plane by BRSim before though so not really sure what to expect from them.
Anyhoo, cheers for the vid as always. A++++++++ as they say on ebay reviews.
Hi Megadyptes,
Yes, I think the C414 and the C310 are going to be broadly on a par with one another; the C310 probably having the slight edge with its failure modelling etc (hoping to be able to take a look at the C310 soon!). I was rather surprised by the level of modelling quality from the C414, as you say, the Wigeon ain't particularly pretty. . .
I must admit that I didn't actually realise that turbochargers weren't modelled full-stop. That would explain quite a lot haha. Auto-mixture is certainly far from ideal, but FSW have now at least updated the aircraft CFG, such that it comes with auto-mixture on as standard (saves one flicking back and forth between various sim settings). I suppose one can't blame a dev for deficiencies in their product, if such areas aren't even covered in the sim. As you say, I suspect Asobo will fix thing up, the question is *when* haha (approaching the 2 year mark rapidly now!).
I did take a look at the Sukhoi - although surprisingly little interest in that one, going off the viewing numbers. I would have liked to have taken a look at the Ercoupe and the RV-14, unfortunately free time (or a lack thereof) got the better of me there. . . I may well still take a look at the RV-14 some time down the road though (despite the glass cockpit, it looks excellent overall).
Haha! The old Ebay reviews. . . haven't received one of those in a fair old while!
Thanks for watching! AAA+++++ - would definitely do business with again! ; )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I guess aerobatic planes aren't everyone's cup of tea. I quite enjoy them though and will get around to watching your Sukhoi vid in a day or two.
I picked up the RV-14 myself and had a quick flight around Hong Kong and my first impressions were that it's pretty nice! Another solid product from SWS even if the glass cockpit isn't my cup of tea. Quite speedy and manoeuvrable and the choice of tail-dragger or tricycle is nice. That was just one quick flight though so dunno how it holds up in the longer run as I've unfortunately been grounded by joystick issues.
Had a bit of a mishap when giving the old Thrustmaster Warthog stick a clean the other day, guess some water got inside and buggered up the electrics. Gonna take it apart later (if I can find a tiny allen key that fits these screws) and see if it can be saved. If not then I'll have to fork out for something new. Been eyeing up the new Gladiator EVO by VKB which looks quite nice. Bit on the pricey side for me though so if I do get it I'll have to cut back on the flight sim addon purchasing spree for the next month or two.
Decent flight sim gear is quite stupidly priced. Getting a replacement Warthog stick would cost me about £250. I only paid around £200 for both the stick and throttle about 6-7 years ago. Granted it was refurbished but it was done and sold by Thrustmaster themselves and it was pretty much in a new condition. The Gladiator will be around £200 I think. Not entirely sure because of stupid Brexit shit with VAT on stuff over £130 not being collected by EU stores and so the delivery company will handle it and charge you a bullshit brokerage fee on top of it. As far as I can tell there's no import duty on flight sim gear though so small blessings etc. I suppose I could always get a cheapo Logitech thing from Amazon or something but lol nah.
Bloody stupid expensive hobby. Was hoping the Warthog stick would last a few more years. Oh well, enough ranting about things costing too much and how back in my day you could buy a throttle and stick and have change left over to get a Wimpy burger, a milkshake and a taxi home and how the weather was better and chicken actually tasted like chicken.
Spactacular aircraft
Indeed Casey. A few teething issues, but a very nice effort from FSW overall!
All the best : )
Decided to buy today, while it’s on Beta special price. Current version is 2.2.0 Haven’t had a chance to test fly her yet.
Hi Ronnie,
Haven't actually had the chance to try V2 myself yet (with the updated textures etc). I do hope you're enjoying the 414!
Happy flying and all the best : )
Another useful and informative review! On a separate note, what do you think of the costs of these addons? I've really started feeling uncomfortable lately about spending around £40 to use in a flight sim that overall, the costs just don't add up when compared...
Hi John,
Thanks very much, really glad you found the video to be of use!
Apologies for the slow reply; that's a tricky one honestly: I've been an avid simmer for most of my life, so I suppose I've become accustomed to the relatively high cost of addons. "Value" can of course be rather subjective, but undoubtedly most sim products these days are at the threshold of what I feel comfortable paying. I can only imagine how much money I have spent on simming over the years, but most hobbies aren't cheap and I derive a lot of enjoyment from it (so I consider it money well spent overall). I used to be very specific / careful with which addons I purchased (that isn't the case so much now that I have the channel). I try and put things into context; £40 is no small amount of money, but equally it often doesn't get you a whole lot these days. I'd rather buy an addon, from which I will get many hours of enjoyment, as opposed to a few beers, or a couple of trips to see a very average movie at the cinema etc.
That's my two pennies worth anyway.
Thanks and all the best! : )
There is an arm button on the altitude alerter. That should let it capture altitude properly.
Thanks Ben!
I was aware of the altitude alerter / alt capture functionality, but as I understand it, its use shouldn't be a requirement to put the aircraft into alt hold (that certainly wouldn't be the case with most aircraft that I have flown).
I know that FSW have been putting out plenty of updates for the aircraft; I haven't had the chance to try them myself yet, but I imagine this may well have been fixed up by now?
Cheers for offering up the info! All the best : )
I’m loving this aircraft, definitely. I’m surprised you said it felt nice on the takeoff though - I have to say I’m getting that awful MSFS jerkiness both on takeoff and landing rolls.
Hi Rondon,
I’m really glad you’re enjoying the aircraft! Likewise (although it does have its issues of course).
Well, it’s all relative I suppose haha, but I didn’t find it to be nearly as bad as most MSFS offerings. The C414 seemed to track pretty nicely straight down the runway and when I did have to make minor corrections, it was easy to do so without the aircraft spearing off the centreline. I have a -50 curve set on my rudder axis, perhaps that accounts for our different experiences?
All the best! : )
I'm hoping Flysimware release their Cessna Conquest II for Microsoft Flight Simulator
Never tried their Conquest myself Carlos, but if it's done to the same standards as the C414, I'll take it! ; )
All the best! : )
What are you using for head tracking. It looks like it is super smooth. Thanks for the great video!
Hi Lone Wolf,
I'm using TrackIR. I’ve got a fairly decent profile set up I think; I’ve uploaded it over on Flightsim.to, should you wish to try it for yourself : )
I hope that helps. My pleasure on the video, I’m glad you enjoyed it! All the best!
Great review will definately look fwd to buying it. What addon you use for that radio chatter?
Thanks very much Dan, glad you enjoyed it!
For the radio chatter, I use recordings from LiveATC.net, which I then edit into the video. I gather there is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that's the sort of thing you're after : )
Cheers and all the best!
This is worth every penny if it's what you're after - www.stickandrudderstudios.com/fs-atc-chatter-overview/
Hey there! Do you think it behaved correctly with OEI? I saw you there able to maintain directional control without any bank way below Vmc (red line). Shouldn't it go into violent, almost unrecoverable, spin below the Vmc?
Hi Tomáš,
Whilst I'm not that familiar with the C414, my short answer would be "no" - I don't think the aircraft did behave correctly.
As you say, I would have expected to lose control somewhere along the way there; incorrect behavior in this regard is sadly somewhat "par for the course" in MSFS though. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
Question: The 'Vorticy Generators' ahead of the rudder, what does that do? Thank you for answers.
Hi Stewie, sorry for the slow reply!
If I dredge up some of old memories from my aerodynamics studies; Vortex generators basically disrupt the airflow and cause it to become more turbulent. This turbulence re-energizes the airflow / gives it more energy. Rather against intuition (I always thought anyway haha), by making the airflow more turbulent, it actually helps it "stick" to the wing, control surface etc more readily (improving aircraft handling characteristics).
Probably not a textbook answer haha, but I hope it helps! All the best : )
Thanks, ITB, for another informative video!
Just a couple of questions since i'm unfamiliar with this airplane:
What's the flag in the ADI for?
Why setting the pressurization for Sea Level when landing at 5,000 FT elevation.
Let's hope they can sort out the fairly annoying niggles that remain.
Thanks very much Wikstrom, my pleasure!
The ADI flag is a little bit of a guess on my part, but as I had switched into GPS navigation by that point, I think the flag is just denoting that the GPS is not providing any vertical guidance currently (as I was using the GTN750, which can provide vertical navigation). I expect you would see the same flag if the ILS was tuned up and you weren't picking up the glideslope.
For the pressurisation; It looks as though the system will maintain surface level pressure in the cabin, up to an altitude of 10,000ft. As a result, 10,000ft is actually the lowest cruise level one can set on the system (as anything below that will just equate to sea level pressure anyway). So I set sea level and then switched to "depressurise" mode once on the ground.
FSW have certainly been very proactive with patches thus far - indeed many of the aircraft's bugs have now been fixed up.
I hope that helps a little? All the best! : )
The small number on the outer scale of the pressurization controller equates to cabin altitude usually while the smaller number on the inner scale relates to cruising altitude. Usually you set cruise altitude plus 500 feet and then when descending you set the cabin altitude to landing field elevation plus 500 feet again. That way the cabin will be depressurized the last 500 feet or so on approach to landing.
Thanks again for a nice review. This one came out of nothing for me. Looks quite good, though at least through YT the sounds to me aren't that great, sounds a bit hollow compared to the Arrows at least. Another one to keep an eye on for sure. Gonna have to wait to see what my tax return will be like and see if i get something back to pick up yet another beauty :D
Would have loved a bit more views out of the sides of the cockpit. Just to see the visibility, for when flying a pattern and during VFR. A bit worried for the FPS hit though, as it seems quite substantial.
My pleasure Coenraad! Haha, the C414 was vaguely on my radar, but it seemed to release with rather little fanfare.
Sounds aren't as good as the Arrow no, but then Just Flight have been doing some of the nicest soundsets in the sim - so I imagine it's a pretty tall order to beat haha.
Well, whether you decided to purchased or not, I do hope the tax man was kind to you XD
I have had others request that I do a quick analysis of the visibility from the aircraft. I try to make mention of it when I remember, the trouble is I have so many things to cover in a review, that I invariably forget a few things along the way haha.
Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thansk for the reply. Well the tax man was kind. But then we found out we had to replace all the woodwork on the balcony, so that was taxmoney gone and then some, like a near 800 euro. Joys of being a home owner.
I ened up not buying it as despite the plane beeing nice, it is not a plane i have a special weakspot for and with planes like the 146, MD-80 and 737 comming, i would like to get one of these for some diversity. And then we have the 310 and Trislander and those looks interesting in their own way.
I did get the B247D though, as it looks quite fantastic and i really felt i had to support a dev that throws down the gloves with a pricing model that just can't be beat.
No worries mate, fully understandable that there is a lot too cover in even the most simple planes :D
Have a good weekend.
Ah no! Well that’s not a fun way to spend money, but at least you didn’t take a double hit with a hefty tax bill as well haha XD
Yes, there are a lot of interesting addons just on the horizon. It’s going to get expensive for all of us I’m sure hehe. There are enough addons now for MSFS, that one does have to start getting selective as well. . .
Ah well I’m glad you picked up the B247! I don’t have any affiliation with Wing42, but I certainly want to see them succeed. An admirable move on their part with the pricing; it will be great for them if they sell lots of units and great for us if their pricing model turns out to be a success!
Cheers! Hope you have a cracking weekend as well : )
Their vc graphics are much improved from their FSX days
Well funnily enough David, FSW's Grumman Wigeon for MSFS looks verrry dated graphically; so I don't know where this level of detail suddenly came from, but I am very much enjoying it!
Cheers : )
Regarding your problems getting the autopilot to level off at 14000, I wonder maybe it’s perhaps related to needing to arm the ALT mode. I’ve seen some other previews, and they seems to be a switch near that smaller altitude setting instrument under the HSI
Yes. I'd had the same problem on my first two flights. It wouldn't hold altitude once it got there. But on the third flight I set altitude, then pushed Arm in IAS mode. It's then set for altitude capture. Got up to FL200 and stayed there.
Thanks very much for the suggestion Rene! I was aware of the Alt Arm option, but I would be surprised if it's actually a requirement for maintaining an altitude. I could be wrong, as I've never used one of these particular units in the real world; but generally once one hits Alt, I would expect the aircraft to either level off at its present altitude, otherwise the one selected on the unit itself. Again though, that's an educated guess on my part.
If it works differently in the sim then perhaps I'm wrong. Either way, it's good to know that there is a workable method (as Jon also mentions), I shall give it a go on my next flight : )
Cheers and all the best!
Ok, thanks very much for the info Jon! : )
I think this might be the best 3rd party aircraft to date!
Ooo, that would be a tough one to call Colin haha! The C414 does still have its issues and I know many people have been having problems with the automation; once the aircraft is fixed up though, I agree it would be a very strong contender (certainly in my top 5)!
Happy flying! : )
forgive my ignorance but what is the atc chatter? awesome review as always. this definitely has my attention but i think i will wait for the milviz 310 and compare the two before making a purchase.
Haha, the ATC chatter is real-world ATC recordings (from LiveATC.net), that I have then edited into the video. There is an MSFS ATC chatter app available though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after.
Probably quite a prudent idea to wait and see what the competition has to offer. Not to say that the FSW C414 isn’t brilliant for the most part, but I suspect the MILVIZ C310 will be the more polished addon of the two + its failure modelling is going to be a great feature to have in the sim!
Thanks very much for watching once again! All the best : )
I thought this bird would be faster! Interesting. Maybe at higher alts.
Pretty sure when you shut down number 1, you could hear the heat ticking lol inside the cabin in flight. Woops!
It’s not the quickest twin I’ve ever come across in terms of IAS, but I did have a reasonably conservative cruise power setting here I think. Being pressurised (and with the turbo’s), you could certainly take it up to some decent altitudes and get a nice high TAS out of it I’m sure though.
Haha, you could indeed! It’s really nice that FSW went to the trouble of modelling that, but it could certainly use a little bit of refinement.
All the best! : )
Hey good video
Have a question how to switch ON the both gps garmin? And how to re appear the pad please? Thanks
Hi Kdb,
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it!
Apologies for the slow reply, have you got things figured out now? The tablet can be made visible again by clicking on the upper corner of the DV window. As for switching on both GPS'; I'm not entirely sure I'm afraid, as mine were both on by default. Which GPS unit are you using; GNS530, GTN750 etc?
All the best! : )
Like the look and sound of this, other than the fuel pump boost drone. Presumably the RL aircraft also does this. Wouldn’t be needed at lower altitudes?
And with regards to the install, which you’ve just mentioned as I’m typing, that may for me be a problem. I’m currently building a new sim rig. So if I buy it now and run it on my current rig, I won’t be able to fly it on my new rig without buying again? That’s me out then, at least for the moment.
Hi Mark,
Yeah, it’s a beautiful model and sounds really nice overall. The fuel pumps didn’t bother me nearly as much during the flight, as they did when I watched back the video XD I’m fairly certain you could get away running without running them though yes. Perhaps the dev or a 3rd party will come up with a fix, to lower the audio of the pumps a bit.
Installation is only allowed on one computer at a time. So you can move it from one PC to another, but I believe you’d have to inform Flysimware etc; which might be straightforward, but might just as equally be a massive palaver. The installer mentions that even if you upgrade hardware on your installation PC, you may have to “reapply” for another installation. It’s not the end of the world, but I really don’t like these sort of practices. You’re essentially punishing someone that legitimately purchased your products, because others partake in piracy (and are probably still going to do so either way). I find it a bit galling when I purchase something and am then told how I can use it. . .
New rig though. . . exciting! ; )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes agreed it’s a bit of a faff setting it up that way. Think it’s probably still worth the aggro though, cheers.
Cool aircraft. I've been eagerly awaiting the MV 310 but this caught me off-guard. Not sure I want to buy both at this sort of money though!
Sounds are definitely a personal thing. While the engine sounds are good, the transitions between idle, taxi and full power sound really jarring to me. I hope they refine it before release.
Looking forward to your (no doubt exemplary) 310 review then I'll decide which one to buy. All the best!
Haha, this one caught me off guard a bit as well Roland. I knew the C414 was in the works, but it seemed to release with little fanfare. The aircraft was certainly a pleasant surprise though, in terms of quality etc. It certainly has its faults, but FSW have been very proactive with updates etc.
I'm very much looking forward to the C310 as well. Both addons will be pretty great I think, but agreed, owning both might be a bit redundant. I reckon the failure modelling on the C310 might give it an edge. Shouldn't be too long to wait now, before we can see exactly what MILVIZ has to offer. . .
Cheers Roland! : )
Does the ac properly simulate one engine off behavior? Because most (all) twins are either unflyable or they fly on rails. This is one of my biggest issues why I don’t fly MSFS very often anymore.
Hi Rob,
I did simulate an engine-out scenario towards the end of the video. The C414 certainly isn’t unflyable, it’s more towards the “flies on rails” end of the spectrum and was fairly easy to fly with the engine shutdown. Rudder was required to keep the aircraft balanced though and the prop can be feathered etc. The demo probably illustrates things better than I could describe here : )
Cheers and all the best!
Quickly becoming my favourite twin. What ATC are you using? Would expect to see more integration with the Bravo quadrant for the auto pilot, hopefully that will come ion the future update.
Yeah, the C414 is a really great offering isn’t it Phillip! It certainly has its issues, but it’s already my favourite twin in the sim for sure (we’ll see how long that lasts when MILVIZ’ Cessna makes its appearance haha).
For the ATC, I was using real-world ATC recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I then edited into the video. I believe there is an MSFS ATC chatter app available though, if that’s the sort of things you’re after : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah, the 310 may be a game changer but, at thi point thr 414 has set the standard for twins. and thanks for the info re ATC, cheers
You’re most welcome!
Yeah, the C310 is looking rather excellent. Not least of all, it’ll be great to have a decent failure system. The C414 will take some beating though, it’s absolutely excellent in some areas. Good to have a little bit of competition at any rate! : )
Cheers!
Hello, is there a way to add tire smoke on landing? Also some aircraft have a bit of smoke at start up. Any help would be great! Ty.
Hello Matthew,
It’s certainly possible in theory, but unless you’re particularly familiar with addon config files / coding (and assuming the files aren’t encrypted) it wouldn’t be very easy for one to do themselves - really it would be up to the developer to add those effects.
I’m afraid I’m not familiar enough with the general process of editing addons, that I would be able to offer up any help on that one. The C414 is still “early access” though, so it’s quite possible the dev will add in these features at a later date.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Thanks for the info. I think the older versions of MSFS had the tire effect. Who knows, might be in an update someday.
fyi having seperate liveries for the avionics is a big advantage for SPAD users to differentiate custom hardware bindings. It's a real pain on those planes with swappable avionics to switch bindings without it.
Ahh, ok Ted, that’s not really a perspective I had considered before. Good info to know! Thanks very much and all the best : )
Sorry one more thing,do I need to buy the TDS GTN750Xi for MSFS and PMS50 GTN750 for MSFS ?
You will need to purchase the TDS GTNXi if you wish to use it yes (though the aircraft itself will work just fine without it). For the PMS GTN 750; there is both a payware and a freeware (with reduced functionality) version of the unit and both will work just fine in the C414.
All the best! : )
Smaller devs are starting to take over when it comes to this SIM. Not sure if that's the XBox release that's led to that...? This lot, Flying Iron, Got Friends - all releasing great stuff.
They certainly seem to be and it's great to see! Not because I dislike the larger devs necessarily, but there has long been a rather one-sided relationship between developers and customers. This seems to have lead (in some cases) to lazy practices, high prices and poor customer service. It's nice to see some fresh new ideas and talents; most of these smaller, newer devs seem to have a lot of passion and care for their products, they also seem to interact with their customers much more readily, take on board feedback without offence etc.
It's brilliant; a bit of competition is certainly healthy for the genre! : )
PS, I think the Xbox plays a part. I think really it's just a numbers game though; there are once again enough flight simmers / customers, that it's possible to create an addon and sell in volume - now everyone wants a piece of the pie haha.
Setting altitude via the analog alerter is so strange. It’s a better system in the Milviz 310R with the Asobo KAP140.
It is rather odd isn’t it einfussganger. It seems to work ok, but it’s so unusual, I often forget it’s there haha. The 310’s autopilot is certainly more intuitive, although both aircraft have their issues on that front currently.
All the best! : )
Very interesting - thank you.
The ATC was very realistic - may I ask what it was please?
Thanks David, I'm really glad you enjoyed the video!
The ATC is recordings from LiveATC.net, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
I noticed that the gps won’t let me set a procedure while in flight. I was trying to activate an ILS approach enroute and the button was grayed out. Not sure if it was user error but it seems like it should’ve worked.
Hi Aviator,
Is that with the default GPS, or one of the modded versions? I'm not quite sure what could be causing that, but the C414 definitely has a few issues with the GNS530 in particular at the moment it seems. Did the most recent patch to the aircraft do anything to fix your situation?
Cheers! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations it was with the GNS750, but I’ve since been able to load procedures just fine. Idk what it was, I may have done something wrong.
I did notice that with the most recent update they did fix the problem with the Garmin version where it wasn’t following the gps course in NAV hold. It still will not capture the altitude though.
I don't understand why Cessna decided to put the emergency x-feed knob on the floor. Seems like it would be easy to trip over or when you are climbing into the seat. Couldn't they just have put the knob where the cowl-flaps are?
Hi TY,
I’m no expert when it comes to aircraft design haha but, I’d imagine the cross-feeds where placed there, purely because it was mechanically simpler. It’s certainly a valid point that you make but, in fairness to Cessna, I suppose that’s why it’s a checklist item.
Cheers, all the best! : )
Awaiting the MILVIZ C310R…
Haha, well likewise Osuna! The MILVIZ 310 is looking very promising indeed : )
All the best!
Not my kind of airplane but great review as usual!!!
Fair enough Stéph, we all have our own tastes! Really glad you enjoyed the review nonetheless - thanks for watching! ; )
All the best!
I tried doing a flight with the GNS530 version but I can't get it to follow the flight plan.... is this a known issue in the beta ?
It does seem to be Jo; others have been having the same issues by the sounds of it. I gather FSW have just put out another update to the C414 though, so with any luck perhaps it’s been fixed up? Not ideal and I’m sure they’ll address the issue at some point either way. . .
All the best!
Check if it can track the GPS magenta line in the Garmin for a GPS route?
It did ok with the GTNXi David, but I haven’t tried it with the default Garmin. Why, have you been having issues?
@@IntotheBlueSimulations default garmin! Ohh roll on PMDG! I supported Flysimware years ago. They caled it flysimlyware! I liked the Lear but no one else did! All i want is the systems to work!
How does one use the camera in the cabin to open the door and other items?
Hi BB,
You can use the default camera controls to move around the cockpit / cabin. The assignments can be found online I'm sure, but essentially it's just a combination of the arrow keys with / without left ALT to move around. The doors etc can also be actuated via the tablet though, so it's not required to move around per se.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Isn't this Aircraft very similar to the long existing Carenado PA34T Seneca V?
What do you think? Is it worth having the Cessna 414 Chancellor in addition to that?
Hi John,
The two are fairly similar in terms of utility, but they are vastly different in terms of execution (in my opinion). The Chancellor is better in really almost every sense and whilst it does still have a few bugs, it's one of the better addons out there to date. For me personally (I own both aircraft), if I had to choose between the two, it would be the C414 every time.
I hope that helps a little John, apologies for the slow reply.
All the best! : )
Family used to own a 414 and I would fly it regularly until we downgraded to a 310R, great planes for travel but they are absolute maintenance hogs and every time I'd fly it, there was always some sort of problem.
Very nice, SGA! I can imagine it’s brilliant having your own C414 / C310 for getting around, albeit, very pricey on the upkeep, I’m sure haha ; )
Happy flying and all the best!
Hmmm. Get the 414 now or wait for the imminent release of the Milviz 310? Flysimware has come a long way since my last purchase (which was the 441 Conquest for P3D) when they were a one-man shop (if they still are, consider my mind blown). On the other hand, the 310 also has come a long way since P3D days, and I find its state saving and realism options very sexy.
Apart from the 414 being pressurized, both models kinda compete for the same spot in the hangar. That's gonna be a hard decision.
edit: Actually, it's an easy decision. The installation being limited to one PC probably means the product uses some form of aggressive (as in "always active") online DRM (or "license management") to enforce this rule, which, to me, is not acceptable. I'll definitely wait for the C310.
Hi Marc,
Yeah, both aircraft rather operate in the same space and I'm sure FSW were / are all too aware of that. I'm definitely looking forward to the C310 as well, I think the failure modelling in particular is really going to enhance the MSFS experience. I plan on reviewing the 310 when the time comes, so maybe that will help you decide.
Just to muddy the waters further though; I seem to recall that the MILVIZ Porter also used some fairly "aggressive" DRM software - so the two products might be as bad as each other in that respect haha XD Then again, I think the MILVIZ DRM only applies if purchased through certain channels. . .
Shouldn't be too long of a wait now for the C310, so let's see!
Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I hate to have to nitpick (just kidding, I love nitpicking), but I have to set this straight: MilViz stopped using their DRM solution a couple of days after the intial release.
I feel I had a part in that. As a long time customer, I mailed MilViz after the Porter release to tell them how disappointed I was about their decision to introduce a DRM scheme. Osh (their main PR/customer relations guy, I think) responded defending the decision, I responded with a detailed explanation of why DRM is bad, especially when it's done in the way the MilViz "WASM helper" worked, and got this response the next day:
"On reflection we must agree with much of what you say. Until we can make it trouble-free for all, we will go back to our previous system."
Only a few days after that, an update for the porter removed the dependency on the "WASM helper" DRM module. I'm quite confident that the C310 will be released without an aggressive DRM scheme.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations While I have your attention, have you considered doing a video on the behaviour of the C172 in SU8 vs SU9 (with the new prop simulation and fluid dynamics)? Would love to hear your opinion, if you dare install SU9.
I was totally hyped when I saw the announcement during the Dev Q&A stream, but after reading some of the comments in the SU9 forum, I get the impression the hype wasn't real and everything is worse than before. :D
Another aircraft released at full price while being described as early access. I am not fond of this trend. With experience from Early Access type games for years on Steam a lot of them have never progressed past Early Access even years later.
I’ve stopped supporting Early Access games on Steam as the use of Early Access has become an excuse for delivering products at full price for half quality and a complete uncertainty if the product will ever be fully done. Anytime you point out issues it gets slapped away with “it’s early access” despite it being literal years later.
So a pass on this for me despite the quality appearing to be decent. I’ll wait for them to declare it as no longer early access and they themselves consider it a complete product. And this goes for all MSFS products for that matter, not exclusively this product.
A sensible and prudent attitude generally speaking Vograx! I've been bitten more than once by "early access" - I think we all have. The term is incredibly vague and one never really knows what they are going to get (if indeed you'll end up with anything at all).
In defense of the C414; it's already completed to a better standard than many "finished" addons. So whilst I am no fan of early access, this is how it should be done (if at all). So far FSW have been pretty proactive with patches, but there's certainly no harm in waiting until it's complete : )
All the best!
Is the radio chatter coming from an add-on? If so, what is it as in game ATC bugs the hell out of me.
not sure what he is using but i use FS ATC Chatter - its great, really adds to the immersion.
Hi Dalwhat,
Yes, unfortunately the in-game ATC is pretty sub-par, so I tend not to bother with it. The ATC I use in my videos, is real-world recordings (taken from LiveATC.net) that I then edit in. As Mark helpfully points out though, there is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS, if that's the sort of thing you're after.
All the best! : )
Cheers Mark! : )
How can you switch GPS? Im looking at a black GTN750, want to cycle it the the PMS750 or 530 but cant find out how?
I may be wrong but I think that's done when switching liveries. Notice with each livery there is a GTN number that denotes what type you are gonna have.
Hi jessie,
Apologies for the slow reply (I'm sure you've figured things out by now), but it's exactly as Kokoete suggests; there is no way to switch the GPS options "on the fly", instead one must select the specific aircraft variant from the aircraft selection menu.
I hope that helps! All the best : )
Thank you for offering up the help Kokoete, much appreciated! : )
🙏🏽 appreciate your flight
Did you know where is the plane documentation / nothing in the folder 📁 in the communauty ? Merci … thanks for this video
Thanks very much Kdb, glad you enjoyed it!
The aircraft manual can be downloaded separately from the Flysimware website : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations okay. Thanks 😊
You’re most welcome! : )
Have you added a GPS Mod as I don’t have the same GPS system as you have
Hi Barney,
Yes, I’m using the TDS GTNXi in the video, it’s a payware mod. If you don’t want to purchase that however, the C414 is also compatible with the PMS GTN 750 and PMS offers a freeware version of their GTN.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
I tried to hang on hang on for your review before buying it but succumbed to desire yesterday. The video was extremely helpful to me as a tutorial so thank you. Re the Autopilot. It seems to be fine to me but you have to set the Alt and arm it on the separate counter thingy I've found.
Even then it doesn't work for me
Haha, that's understandable John. I've had many a day 1 purchase get the better of me! : P
Hey, if you still want to watch the video even after purchasing, then I consider that quite an achievement ; )
Very happy to hear that the video was still of use and noted on the ALT ARM. I was aware of the ALT window and ARM mode - I've never used one of these particular autopilot units before, but I would be very surprised if they autopilot can't be put straight into ALT (without arming first). Typically once you see "ALT", you would be expecting the mode to be active, as opposed to armed. Again though, that may not be the case with this particular unit. . .
Cheers as always! : )
Hi Martijn,
Someone else mentioned to me, that setting the sims units to the US system fixed things up for them (and even changed the aircraft's performance etc, due to a bug when using other unit types). I haven't given that a go myself yet, but perhaps worth a try : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hi. Thanks for the suggestion but the underlying issue was that the autopilot reference altimeter was not the PIC altimeter. Has been fixed. I found a few more bugs in the mean time. RNAV flying parallel to the track in crosswind and the GFC600 not being able to go from one mode to the other without deselecting the active mode first, among a few others. Will report them! My latest vid includes them. Do you know if there is a way to crossfeed data between the two GTN750?