Carenado Cessna 182RG | Sedona to Grand Canyon | Full Flight Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video we check out the Carenado Cessna 182RG, within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We'll be taking the aircraft on a flight from Sedona (KSEZ), up to Grand Canyon National Airport (KGCN), trying to find out what the 182RG has to offer.
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
ASUS Z790
Intel Core i9 13900K 5.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
64GB DDR4 2666MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! 
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The interior textures in this look absolutely brilliant - Carenado always does such a nice job with interiors.
Been flying her all morning. Feels like a comfortable sweater I am happy to spend a few relaxing hours in.
I love all my Carenado birds, including this new 182RG. I'm hoping they'll be able to offer a 210 or 177RG soon, but a big wish on my part is a Turbo Commander!
I'm waiting on their 206. Very underrated plane.
Amen on the 210, but I wish it would include a turbo variation as well.
@@caribbaviator7058: The 206 is an excellent aircraft if you plan on carrying a lot of weight and using a lot of unimproved runways. I prefer the 210, because it has the performance edge over the 206, yet its gear is still robust enough for handling almost as many unimproved surfaces as the 206. I do love airplane talk!
Hopefully Carenado brings the Centurion 210. Was my go to GA in XP11.
@@Guerry-3 206 if you like station wagons as we call em in Canada
I bought it last week. I think it feels pretty darn great on the honeycomb! I rather enjoy the takeoff quirks. It seems like carenado set a "okay, above speed-x the nosewheel steering becomes less effective." I've been flying the heck out of it into regional and bush airports. Sometimes I have an autopilot bug that tries to take me to the beginning of magenta lines rather than intercept them, but that's it.
I love it!
I actually can’t believe how busy you must be reviewing all those released planes (you’re probably already working on the new BF 109 G), while also having an airline job. Good work mate!
I am patiently waiting for ITB's 109 review.
Haha, I have indeed been pretty flat out of late! Work has been manically busy, so I haven’t been able to dedicate as much time to the channel as I would like, but I’m trying my best to keep things ticking along and cover the major addon releases where I can. Thanks very much for the kind words, thoroughly appreciated : )
Cheers!
Great work by the artists and modellers. They still can't be beaten. Even if there are some flaws in the systems, visually it's a pleasure to fly.
Saw this in the marketplace last night (didn't know it was being released), and I had to see a review first for it to know what we're in for. Thanks for the effort and time in making this (and all your other videos). Having time in the 182RG, it is convincing enough for normal operations that I'll likely have to grab it now.
Thank you very much Oni, my absolute pleasure on the video(s)! I’m really glad you’re finding the content useful and I do hope you’re enjoying the 182RG (as you say, there’s enough there, such that one can run through normal operations reasonably accurately).
Happy flying and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations appreciate the time to comment. Been enjoying the bird, as it brings back some recent memories flying the 182RG. Happy flying as well! 😀
My pleasure, Oni! Cheers : )
I was waiting for an 182 version for so long! Thanks!
You just gotta love Cessnas.
Probably one of my all time favourite GA aircraft and brought into the sim nicely again as an add on!
Thanks for the review mate
Cheers Dream! Yeah, modern high-wing Cessnas, are a bit of a design classic I suppose haha. I hope you’re enjoying the RG then!
Happy flying and have a great weekend : )
Thanks for the review, I always look out for yours!
Thank you very much Dave, my absolute pleasure! I’m really happy to hear that you’re enjoying the content / finding it useful : )
Cheers, all the best!
I used to be in a flying club that had a 182RG. Didn't get to fly it much because it was always in high demand, but it was a really nice machine. Cruise was around 150-155 KTAS at 75% power. It had a nice chunky feel and was a good instrument platform. The Skylane, Centurion and Mixmaster all handled about the same. I like the old school panel and livery. I'm all over this offering like white on rice.
Thank-you for your reply. When you do get the 182 RG, it would be nice to hear your opinion of it if you can slip it in a comment down the line. I am one of those who does learn from others by reading their comments. Although I am new to MSFS, it seems like Black Square makes the better functional product, while Carenado makes a prettier one.
@@Guerry-3 Sorry for the delay. I just saw this. I did get this add-on and am quite pleased with it. For me, the lack of systems depth is not really an issue since I always turn failures off. I practiced enough emergency procedures in real life and now, in my declining years, all I want is to have a nice relaxing cross-country flight and maybe remember what I had for breakfast. Others prefer to simulate failures and emergencies and in that case, the Black Square offerings are much better. I have the Black Square Baron and King Air and they are very good and look as good as any Carenado product. You can't go wrong with either one unless you really want to simulate failures and emergency procedures. That's the nice thing about the flight sim. There's enough variety that you can tailor it to your own preferences. Hope this helps.
Another awesome review mate. Going to add this one to my hangar
Cheers Matt! I hope you’ve been enjoying the 182RG then. Happy flying and all the best : )
Nice flight, I will give it a try. As usual a fun and edifying presentation, you spoil me for watching other sim reviews/reviewers! Thanks!!
Haha! Cheers Art, very kind of you to say.
The flight is indeed well worth a try; it was my first time flying this route and it’s an enjoyable little hop (of course, one could also continue on with a tour of the Grand Canyon thereafter).
Many thanks once again! : )
I like Carenado always pleasing aircrafts to fly in the sim, even if they lack the more advanced features and system depth seen with other add ons. They've issued some nice updates to their other aircrafts lately including the skymaster which is really good these days.
Very enjoyable vid. Thank you very much. Cheers from Australia
Thanks you very much Timothy, my absolute pleasure! I’m really glad you enjoyed the vid. Cheers for watching and all the best : )
Thanks for this review, I actually really like the Carenado products, they look so good and usually suit my expertise level. I'll pick this one up...cheers.
Thanks very much, Rahman! Exactly; Carenado products might not be to everyone’s tastes, but a lot of people seem to forget that not everybody is looking for the same level of detail as they are. As much as I love a good high fidelity addon, I can get a lot of enjoyment out of cruising around in something like the 182RG also.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
My daughter in laws grandad had one of these. And a wheel fell off, when landing, with her and her mother in it. All was absolutely fine but it's fixed landing gear for the whole family ever since! I would swear that it made my mother in law more mellow.😂
Ha... Ha...!!! I'll keep that in mind when I get a mother-in-law.
Haha! Well, don’t tell your Mother in Law, John, but I had a friend who whilst taxiing out, had a wheel fall off his fixed-gear C172 XD
Cheers once again! : )
Great demo thanks... this is my go-to GA single engine aircaft. Your demo was very helpful thanks.
Thanks very much Steve, my absolute pleasure! I’m really glad you found the video useful.
Happy flying and all the best : )
Thank you for your appraisal.... I purchased the 182RG yesterday and found it to be excellent..... The documentation for the aircraft could be downloaded from the Carenado site directly (I bought the aircraft via Marketplace).... I always listen to your presentations before I purchase and am never disappointed.... With much appreciation.... Roger.... Pembrokeshire
Fantastic video and review!
Thank you very much Tom, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! Much appreciated and all the best to you : )
Really like the engine sound. Very convincing.
Thanks again, been flying it, analogue cockpit was a selling point 😊
You’re most welcome, Mr CP! Happy flying and have a great weekend : )
Cessna 182 is my fav all time aircraft, had a RC model as a kid, then on my 50th had the privilege of flying one as my first ever time in a aircraft
GREAT flight. From a desk pilot standpoint, this is a wonderful plane. I will certainly give it a go as the 182 is my sim default plane and given your review and on the Bank for the Buck Scale = 10! !! !!!
Cheers Mark! The 182RG is certainly a beauty and whilst it might not be “study level”, it still ticks a lot of boxes for me; it’s still a lot of fun and not to mention an absolute classic, when it comes to the history of MSFS.
Happy flying sir! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I did purchase it and have had several successful flights. For me, a great plane for the money. It's a better plane than I am as a pilot! !! !!!
Nice review!
Brings back a lot of memories. I got my Commercial/Instrument and CFI/CFII in the C182RG at UND back in the late 70's/early 80's. It was a great plane to fly and instruct in. While working on my CFII, myself and 3 other instructors flew a C182RG from KGFK to KBOS and back with stops enroute at KORD and KJFK. That was quite the adventure 🙂I'm pretty sure I have a POH for it in my stack of manuals. I'll be adding this one to my hangar of Carenado aircraft.
Thank-you for your comment. I would love to hear what you have to say when it comes to how accurately this aircraft compares to what you experienced.
@@Guerry-3 Hi! To be honest it has been decades since I flew the C182RG in real life, so it's difficult for me to compare the Carenado offering to the real thing. One thing I do remember in the real aircraft the flight controls - especially the elevators - had a heavier feel to them than the sim version. Of course, that could just be my Thrustmaster settings. I do find the Carenado pleasant to fly. I haven't had a chance to fly it other than around the patch, so I don't know how accurate the performance is compared to the numbers provided in the performance charts.
Thanks very much, Scott! That does sound like quite the adventure! I’m glad the 182RG brings back some nice memories, hopefully you’ll now be able to re-live some of those memories in the sim.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Very nice video. I subbed.
Thanks very much Nuversion, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! Welcome aboard : )
I'm just happy we finally have an RG model Cessna
Song of the year there too Blu, amazing vibe with those beats 🎧
Haha! Cheers, Jeff ; )
16:12 Looks like one of those hornet thingys lol
Haha! It does rather, Sydney. I’ve always found the gear restriction on the C182 to be rather peculiar / intriguing XD
Cheers, all the best : )
Thank you for the review - up to it's usual impressive standard. I much prefer steam gauge GA aircraft to glass cockpits so I have been hanging out for this release for some time. I'm currently flying around the USA via GA planes so I will definitely do some legs in this baby. Incidentally, I flew into/out off Sedona a week or so ago. It was a big challenge because the wind played havoc with my approach. Not surprising considering being on the top of a butte like that. Anyway, I digress. Thanks for the review, it looks like a lot of fun in spite of a few relatively minor faults which I'm sure Carenado will see too. Take care and safe flying.
Thank-you for your comment. I'm looking forward to your opinion regarding your flights in the 182 RG. It would be nice to hear how it compared to this review.
Thank you very much Mr Squirel! I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight and I do hope you’re enjoying the 182RG also (it sounds like the perfect platform for a few legs on your US adventure : )
My pleasure on the video. Cheers and happy flying!
JustOkayPilot's KGCN has been cool for over two years. Good to see it feature in this great flight. Cheers!
Really enjoyable Presentation ! I’m a Carenado Fan 👍🙏🏻✈️👨✈️ Good Weekend !
Hopefully they bring the jets to MSFS2020, Falcon 50Ex, Citations and co
Thanks very much once again, Lee! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video. Happy flying and all the best : )
Finally i bought this plane.
When you land and use brakes, the braking is so strong that the plane tends to roll forward...
Hi Rikus,
Yes, I found the same during the review; I don’t know that it comes down to the strength of the brakes (from memory, the deceleration rate seemed reasonable enough), but the nose oleo seems to be very “soft” on the Carenado 182RG, causing a big pitch down moment when braking. A few people have suggested that’s fairly accurate behaviour, but not everyone agrees haha.
I hope you are enjoying the RG otherwise though! Happy flying and all the best : )
The internal sounds are fantastic.
Again, i love your videos! i am looking forward to seeing your review on the new BF109, and be sure to get a flyby video.
Many thanks once again, Barrett! I’m really glad you enjoyed this vid and I do hope you enjoyed the BF-109 vid also (including multiple flybys ; )
Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i loved it! i must ask though, what program did you use to get that formation flight?
Thanks very much Barrett, very happy to hear that. For the 109 video, I was using FlightControlReplay 5. The program is essentially a flight recording tool, but also offers a number of other features, including a virtual wingman option. FCR 5 is perhaps a touch pricey, but a very nice tool otherwise (apparently a flyby cam will be included soon also!).
I hope that helps. Cheers : )
A very smooth landing, and I wouldn't trust that flimsy undercarriage with anything else. 😄 I loved the Carenado 182RG back on FSX so getting this one was a no-brainer for me.
Haha, cheers Jigsaw! Same here; the 182RG is such a classic of Microsoft flight sims, so it’s great to see the aircraft in MSFS.
Happy flying and all the best : )
Great review again, thanks. Was anticipating this release a lot so now I know I can purchase it. A pity because of the small bugs but contrairy the past Carenado is updating their aircraft now and then. You leaned the 182 in the good way landing at Grand Canyon airfield, In RL I landed there once in a Piper Seneca wing I leaned to much…..at flare the left engine stopped working because of that ….. I was lucky it was in the flare and the touch down was a greaser😅 thanks gain !
WOW! Great real life story. Thank-you for sharing.
So i purchased it and flew one flight (one touch and go and one full stop), FR definitely not okay...i fly in VR and when the FR are not okay you will suffer. But today is quite windy here and that is things making worse, when i set the winds to calm it is better. Aircraft flies okay (enjoyable and quite true to life). Great ground friction on taxi. The front wheel suspension is for sure not okay, every braking moment you think you will cause a propstrike. The only real problem in the flight model (beside the FR) is that with max X-wind the rudder deflection is not good enough to keep the aircraft on centerline...this is really annoying. Because of that I will leave it in my hanger until Carenado updates it.
Thanks very much once again, Ben! There are definitely one or two issues that need fixing but too their credit, Carenado have already put out a patch - has that fixed your rudder issues at all (I know the patch addresses the lack of visual deflection on the rudder)? I hope you’ve been enjoying the aircraft otherwise and been managing to keep the engine running as you go! : P
Happy flying and all the best : )
Another terrific review! I feel as you do about the unfortunate trend away from quality product manuals. I’ve written several, myself, and they do really add to the experience…as well as saving the customer from lengthy searches for a PDF copy of the model’s POH. We often have to settle for something “almost” what we need. It makes me wonder if there’s a market for inexpensive sim-only POHs.
As it happens, Carenado did produce their usual charts and checklists. I stumbled across them on their website (on the 182RG product page) just before I bought this pleasant little gem.
Thanks very much for the info Kurt and indeed your kind words regarding the video! You’re correct; to Carenado’s credit, they did produce a manual, though there was some sort of bug that prevented the documentation from being installed haha (great to see that the issue has been patched already). Certainly though, there are many devs that don’t include documentation, or very little of it and that does tend to detract from the overall enjoyment of a product (it certainly makes a product harder to review, not knowing what should / shouldn’t work etc).
Thanks for thoughts and again for the info! Cheers and all the best : )
based on your reviews I recently purchased this product and I know not study level as I ususally require but in this case I will make an exception
Study level or otherwise, I enjoy the 182 for what it is - I hope you do also : )
Happy flying, Mike!
Another pleasurly calm outing in a Carenado aircraft. As you've replied here before, up next is probably the BF-109G, and from what I hear Flyingiron have done yet another marvelous job with the Gustav, I'm certainly looking to get it day one on Xbox.
Cheers Deku! I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight and I do hope you enjoy the Gustav also, as and when you pick it up : )
Happy flying and all the best!
I live near Sedona and it's always nice to see it from the air
Ah very nice, Matt! It looks like a beautiful part of the world to live in. I’m glad you enjoyed the video then! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Northern Arizona is definitely beautiful, lived here for around 6 and a half years now
Nope, the master, ALt switches are reversed, I blame the A&P :P. The few times I have taxied a 182RG I can verify it takes a bit to get the beast to start rolling. I think it is because it is quite a bit heavier than the fixed gear 182. It also does "nose dive" like a 70s era Cadilac with application of moderate to hard braking. That sound is sooooo much like this beast's sound inside with a headset. Watching the gear go up it makes me wonder if when they were figuring out how to retract the gear on a high wing plane "I Know!!! Let's have it look like a duck!" LOL. Really clean looking plane with the feet up though. Love the look of that classic Cessna "6 pack". That wing over is a bit odd for a Cessna, but I have not flown an RG which may behave differently than the fixed gear 182, that blue tint is a nice detail done. I was surprised the Microsoft did not have the 182 RG as stock, since all other iterations of the sim since the very first had that bird as default. Great review. I'm likely going to get this bird.
Thank-you so very much for your comment. As one who is new to MSFS, I am always looking to hear from others when they are able to compare true to life with this simulator. I agree about the excessive roll with the stall. My father owned a 182 fixed gear, and the stall was as you described vs. what was shown in the video. But as Carenado depicted in this video, I am glad that you verified the performance.
@@Guerry-3 Yea, it could be that roll is due to the feet being up. I know the 182s I've flown have been like big, sturdy pick up trucks of the sky. Point where you wanted to go, and they just went. The stall is docile as all else, and no want to roll right or left unless you were a clutz with the rudder, and I mean a real clutz..
Thanks very much Pythos, always good to hear from those who have some experience with the aircraft! It sounds like Carenado got quite a few details correct then : )
It’s great to see the classic 182RG back in a Microsoft sim; as a kid, I was always fascinated by the gear retraction sequence haha.
I hope you’re enjoying the RG. Happy flying and all the best!
Re: Prop RPM drop. That is normal drop. If you want more response you can run it up into the green arc of the Tach and the Governor is more effective. This is realistic to most constant speed Cessnas that I’ve flown.
Thank-you for your comment and real life information. I am new to MSFS, and as soon as I master the C152, I am now looking at this aircraft for transitioning into a complex aircraft. I do love Black Square's G36 Bonanza, but it appears to be too much aircraft for it to be my next step.
Thanks very much for the info, Guy! That’s interesting. It’s been a long while since I’ve flown anything with a constant speed prop, but I recall having to “catch” the RPM’s and bring the prop lever back up again, before there was too big of a drop (to be fair, that’s my experience with most addons in the sim also). Perhaps the checklist I was using, had me do the run-up at too low of an RPM then (as you suggest).
Cheers again. Much appreciated! All the best : )
That little garmin is very cute
IRL we use 5 primes, cylinder number -1
Thanks for the info VJT. Would priming not depend on the temperature to some degree? I was following the guidance of a C182 checklist, but I don’t recall whether it was a real-world checklist, or merely a simming checklist. Either way, it’s always good to hear from those “in the know”.
Much appreciated and all the best! : )
Enjoyed the 182RG review. One nit is that in all US airspace your choice of VFR cruising altitude, 9000 ft, is an IFR altitude - your choices for a NW flight should have been 8,500 ft or 10,500 ft for traffic avoidance.
Thanks very much Michael, I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight! I certainly appreciate your point; whilst I do like to try and keep things reasonably accurate in my videos, I also like to enjoy the flight and go where the feeling takes me, so to speak. It wouldn’t be possible for me to remember each countries specific rules / laws, so I tend to keep things pretty simple in that regard.
I hope you will forgive me for my rogue flying haha. Much appreciated and all the best! : )
Fantástico.
Thank you very much once again, HV! I’m really glad you enjoyed it : )
Cheers!
when i first loaded this plane up i already noticed a higher quality overall compared to Carenados 182T model and te sounds the overall model the cockpit etc jsut feels better. felt les squirrely then the other 182T
Nice work as usual, thanks. I really like this airplane. The docs are available for download on the website.
Thanks very much for the kind words and indeed the info, Stephinder. In fairness to Carenado, it seems they did plan on including documentation, but apparently there was some sort of bug that was preventing the manual from installing correctly haha. Thankfully, that issue seems to have now been resolved : )
My pleasure. Happy flying and all the best!
during that landing i was screaming Centerline, fuck smooth safe is what you want, and safe is centerline. CENTERLINE CENTERLINE CENTERLINE
At around 20:35 theres Mt Humphreys off the nose. Fad and i climbed it in 1977.
Hi, thank you fot this video it's great. I am also fan of Carenado. I am also pilot and in real you don't check the rudder. Pedals are connected to the front wheel and it can't turn if you are not moving. Pipers have the same issue. I fly Diamond's 20 and 40 and those have the pedals free 👍
Thanks very much Juraj, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! What you’re saying makes sense, I guess you don’t want to be scrubbing the nosewheel. It’s funny, I’ve flown a few Pipers and I don’t recall not checking the rudder, but it was a long time ago, so I’ve probably just misremembered haha. I appreciate that the procedure might not be accurate, but I’ll probably continue to do so in the sim, as 1) I can’t keep track of which aircraft have castoring nosewheels and 2) it also allows me to pick up issues with an addon, such as the lack of rudder deflection on Carenado’s 182RG. Nevertheless, thank you very much for the info, much appreciated!
Cheers, all the best : )
Great video! What ATC were you listening to? That sounded much more realistic than the standard in MSFS. Thanks!
Hi Stan,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
Counterintuitive though it may be, it is ALT/BAT from LH to RH IRL. Also, I've seen a lot of blue/green tint on various a/c of that vintage (and newer). I'm so glad they correctly modelled the gear extension/retraction sequences--so cool (the B-52 is one of my favorites). I've actually had numerous AP malfunctions with many a/c in MSFS and it occurred in my most recent flight in the 182RG. Without warning, it initiates an uncommanded bank (generally to the left) that continues, if unchecked, to beyond 90° and you need to manually bring it back. This can occur in NAV or HDG mode and is obviously very annoying. Anyway, I agree with your assessments and that it's still a great plane and a reasonable value.
So, what ATC are you using?
This Aircraft has a big issue with the rudder! Carenado knows it but they can’t say when it will be fixed!
Great Video as always !
Quick (maybe dumb) question.... how did you manage to input the waypoint using the keyboard ?
Thanks very much, Joe! Glad you enjoyed it.
Haha, well if it is a dumb question, that makes 2 of us - I had to google the same thing ahead of this review XD
There is basically a small keyboard symbol, right next to the data entry window. Click on that and you can then enter waypoints etc using the keyboard (you should be able to see me doing that during the setup). Obviously it’s a great functionality, it saves time and makes life much easier.
I hope that helps? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Well I have to go try this !!
Plane looks great!
Question. How long have you had your i9/4090 setup for? Enjoying it? I finally bought a PC after playing on Xbox for the last year and a half or so. My setup will be very similar
Hello Ryan,
I upgraded about 2 months ago and yes, very much enjoying the new PC! I don’t usually splash out / treat myself nearly that much, but I figured it would be a good “investment” for the channel and I had the idea that I might get back into some VR simming also (just for personal entertainment). Overall, I’m very happy with the new rig; in some respects it was overkill (I always knew it would be), given that I only run MSFS at 1080p, but it’s allowed me to crank everything up to Ultra (which looks great in the videos) and generally gives me enough headroom to keep everything smooth throughout my recordings. You’d think that all of that hardware, would be enough to keep everything silky smooth, but MSFS still gets the better of it occasionally haha. Moving over to a PC, is a game changer for MSFS. It opens up a whole new world of addons, mods and options : )
I do hope you enjoy the new PC. All the best!
what graphics settings are you using? the terrain at 16:15 looks really bad, have the devs toned down the LOD visuals?
I use pretty high graphical settings, Brick (essentially everything on Ultra) but yeah, the terrain looks pretty bad around Sedona (which is odd, given that it’s a “handcrafted” airport. The sim has definitely been toned down (in some areas) as things have progressed over the years, but generally things look better in my sim, than the scene you mention.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
Looking forward to seeing FlyingIron's Bf109 review. I want to hear your thoughts on it!
I hope you enjoyed the BF109 vid then, Gluteus! : )
Cheers!
Great review. Do you know if the manual gear extension lever works? It's a pump handle that's located on the floor between the 2 pilot seats. It probably isn't modelled, but maybe we will get lucky.
Hi Loc,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Apologies for the slow reply; I had a quick look / play around with the lever, it seems it is neither clickable nor modelled.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
I’m surprised this review came before the BF-109, but when two good devs release airplanes together, I’m not surprised at the same time. 😂
I’ll just give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re getting some extra landing practice in the 109 😂
Haha, that’s it, Dave; too many addons and never enough time! As you say though, a little more landing practice in the 109 never hurts XD
Cheers, all the best : )
Nice plane and review.
I like more the cockpit 172, with more instruments.
Cheers Rikus, I’m glad you enjoyed the review! The 182 is indeed a nice effort from Carenado; I’m sure we’ll see a quality 172 (maybe from A2A) in the sim at some point also : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations A stand alone DME on this airplane would be nice for flying with no gps :(
Agreed! I was quite surprised not to see one. . .
You sound like a pilot giving a briefing close your eyes and you are on a flight to Spain.
What software add ons are you using especial ATC
Haha, cheer Phil. I get that quite a bit; it’s not an effect that I intentionally go for, but if it makes you feel like you’re off on your holidays, I suppose that’s no bad thing XD
I don’t use all that many addons. The Grand Canyon scenery was freeware, available over on Flightsim.to and I also use the “No Toolbar Handle” mod. For seasonal trees, I use the Bijan 4 Seasons mod. The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Thanks and all the best!
Great video! What do you use to look around so smoothly and realistically? Is it VR?
Hello SuperSam,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I'm actually using a head-tracking device called "TrackIR" for the camera movements. It's great, although a little pricey. There are cheaper / freeware alternatives available though, should you wish to give it a go for yourself : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
Nice video, sir.
Carenado generally get a resounding 'meh' from me (there are exceptions, the M20R is one of the best GA aircraft in the sim, imo) but this looks the part, certainly. I just find their flight modelling a bit, prosaic and boring, personally.
One thing I've not mentioned before about your videos is the atmosphere, and attention to detail. In particular the ATC chatter you have on in the background. Superb stuff.
Hope you're keeping well.
He's on VATsim I think.
Thank you very much PU!
Carenado’s addons can be a bit of a mixed bag, but I think their offerings are pretty solid these days, especially given the price. I know that Carenado aircraft aren’t for everyone, the systems and flight modelling can be a bit “generic”, but I’ve learned to take each addon for what it is, cruise along and enjoy the ride haha. The Mooney definitely has a certain something about it and there are a couple of other Carenado aircraft that elevate themselves for various reasons. I did enjoy the C182RG overall.
Thanks you very much for the kind words! I certainly try my best to make each flight immersive / atmospheric, so it’s always a pleasure to hear when someone thinks I’ve managed to pull that off. Much appreciated!
Cheers and all the best : )
Nice video - thanks. Question - why did you cycle carb heat on approach?
Hello Rick,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
The reasonably short answer is as follows (and apologies if I’m stating anything obvious): Carb heat is generally used at low engine power settings (and periodically throughout the flight), to prevent carb icing (which can form outside of “normal” icing conditions). So ordinarily, one would select the carb heat for the descent / approach. The primary reason for deselecting the carb heat just before landing, is to ensure that in the event of a go-around, the carb heat isn’t inadvertently left on (as using carb heat at high power settings, can lead to engine problems such as detonation).
I hope that helps? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Makes sense - thanks!
You’re most welcome! : )
Any idea why the CDI bar on the DG was different than that of the GNS530 at times on the leg from Sedona to the FLG VOR? When you had gotten centered up on the CDI on the DG, the 530 CDI indicated you should come to the right.
I could be wrong, but I believe on the GNS530, that's deviation from the flight plan path (so still GPS positioning on the unit irrespective of VLOC or GPS selection for the CDI). The flight plan holds its initial position where programmed and won't update until doing a direct to change or waypoint update from the present position.
Hi HMR,
It’s basically as Oni states; the GPS CDI was showing tracking relative to the flight plan path, whereas the HSI CDI, was showing deviation to the VOR radial (if memory serves me correctly).
I hope that helps? All the best! : )
Thank-you sir, for your review of Carenado’s Cessna 182 RG. This is Guerry from the US again, with my oh so authoritative comment on your review. As I viewed your video, the tenor of your voice indicated to me that you were not as excited with the product as you have been with other aircraft. Nevertheless and as always, I appreciate your candor from which I am able to make a personal evaluation.
Most certainly do I agree with you regarding the documentation not being provided with this addon. There is real life, and there is this simulator. Despite the programmers attempting to produce an aircraft that mimics real life experiences, this aircraft is still an inexpensive simulator. Carenado should provide a POH that accurately depicts the MSFS performance of its aircraft. For example: does the aircraft really drift to the right that severely on takeoff? Does it really take that amount of throttle to get the parked aircraft moving? Etc. I have not flown in a C182 in many, many years, and I cannot tell you. Even though an aircraft’s actual POH is as accurate as engineers can make it, a simulated aircraft will have much wider variations not addressed in a true to life POH.
In regards to the other “bugs” you identified, I was not able to find any additional ones. I do wish Carenado had provided us with a turbo-assisted 182 RG. I happen to be one who is overly cautious, and when it comes to mountain flying, I like the added ability to quickly gain altitude. I always keep in the back of my mind contingencies for those “just in case” situations. For when it comes to mountain flying, full blown weather storms can develop without warning in a New York minute.
Despite the problems you noted and the additional ones I found, I do love this addon. For me, I think it is the perfect transition aircraft for moving from the C152 into a complex aircraft. For me, the Bonanza and some of the Piper aircraft are exceptionally nice selections, but for the initial transition, they are a bit too much airplane. The 182 RG is simple and fast enough to remain a great VFR aircraft, yet it remains easy enough to lean and conduct IFR flying.
You most likely had good reasons, but unlike your reviews of other aircraft, you review was not as detailed as it could have been. I had to go to the Carenado’s website to view other configurations of this aircraft.
One of the things I would have liked for you to demonstrate in the 182 RG was how it handled a soft field landing. Although not as robust as fixed gear, the retractable gear is sturdy enough to handle unimproved runways as well as turf fields.
Again, thank-you for taking the time to provide us MSFS fans a review of this aircraft. With the exception of some developer providing a C-210 turbo addon (How about it, Black Square?), for me the C-182 RG will be my choice for a next aircraft. Hopefully by then, Carenado will have listened to you and others in order to rectify the bugs you identified and correct them.
Hello Guerry,
My pleasure on the video and thanks for your thoughts once again.
For sure, the C182 didn’t get me quite as excited as certain other addons, but that’s through no fault of the product; a high wing Cessna simply isn’t as exciting as a Beech 18, or F104 haha.
As it transpired, Carenado did actually make documentation for the 182, but there was a bug that was preventing said documentation from being installed. This issue has now been corrected (I gather), so that’s great to see (but I fully agree regarding manuals in general).
Quite a few people were disappointed by the lack of a turbo version. Personally, I was happy with a normally aspirated 182, but it would have been nice to have both variants available. On the plus side, I would imagine it shouldn’t be too tricky for someone to “mod” a turbocharger in (encryption allowing).
Which configurations do you feel I missed during the review? I mentioned the avionics configurations and covered both panel colour options. Quite simply, the depth of any review, comes down to time, cost and personal enjoyment. Generally speaking, the review will be as in-depth as my free time will allow, but if the addon is cheap (as was the case with the C182), I may not devote as much attention to reviewing it, as with say a £50 addon. On the flip side, if I’m really enjoying the addon, the video may naturally tend to cover more haha. Free time is always my main constraint though, so concessions do have to be made.
I’d imagine that Carenado will bring their 210 to MSFS in due course haha, but in the mean time, enjoy the 182RG : )
Cheers. Happy flying and all the best!
How do you setup your atc conservation at the background
Hello TA,
The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
Your sim looks amazing. So does the aircraft, can i ask other than your pc specs, what monitor and other things do you use to make it look so good.
ASUS Z790
Intel Core i9 13900K 5.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
64GB DDR4 2666MHz
his specs
@idkhowtoexplain I am aware of those. I'm asking if anthing else. I'm on i7-10700k, 32gb ram, rtx 3060 but have a 60hz monitor and all looks pixelated and blurry but with people with same specs as me, mine doesn't look as good
@@isaacridge4493 If I enable DLSS , my displays will be super blurry , but if I record a video , everything will look ok. That is the problem. You might have some graphic problems, not talking about pixelation problem,it might not be visible on video.Check if you have DLSS enabled and it it is , change it to TAA.
Cheers Isaac, I’m glad you think so!
If everything is looking rather blurry, that’s probably an anti-aliasing issue, make sure you have it set to TAA, if you want the sharpest image possible. Render Scale may also be the culprit, you want that set to at least 100% (if you’re running 1080p or lower). The monitor etc shouldn’t make a difference; if my video looks sharp on your screen, then it must be a sim issue that’s making things blurry for you. I only run the sim in 1080p, and use an LG 32 inch monitor.
I hope that helps a little. All the best!
This is really lovely, but I'd prefer a cessna 185/206/207 from this era.
That's hilarious, you call it steam gauge but it still has screens in it.
I learned to fly when gps was not available on pa-28 piper warriors. Only quite steam gauge but one gyro spun electric and the other was... Air driven.
The most amazing instrument was the DME which showed an actual distance number on a 7 segment display. Amazing shit.
Steam gauge doesn't mean no screens. GPS isn't a gauge....
Hi CA,
Well, the GPS is a bit of an aside in my opinion. The gauges are mechanical and much like with your 7 segment DME, you wouldn’t therefore have described your PA-28 as having a “glass cockpit” ; )
Either way, much like yourself, I learnt to fly when GPS was still extremely uncommon on a typical GA aircraft. As brilliant as glass real estate is in the real-world, steam gauges have a lot more character and I certainly much prefer these sorts of aircraft in the sim.
All the best!
What cockpit camera settings or hardware are you using? You seem to have very fluid control over looking around like VR
Maybe TrackIR
(Just saw, it’s written in the description, it’s actually TrackIR)
TrackIR and Camera settings looks pretty good and realistic, i would like to know these settings too, if he can share with us will be cool!
@@CmtePereira I was wondering. I've used track IR on and off since it first came out, and was never really able to get it super smooth like that. Likely that was mostly due to any other lights that were on behind me in the room messing with the infrared sensor. I eventually switched to VR, which works great, but does only allow for limited use of the keyboard, and does not lend itself well to screen recording or screenshots.
@@AV8R_1 did you use the precision mode?
@@Jannik_Stein F7? Yeah. had it pretty dialed, but for example, I couldn't look behind me. it would always bug out if I looked down too far. Two factors... Lights on in the room behind me, and the sensor position may have been an issue too... I have a massive monitor, so it may have been up too high.
i can easily get 100hrs of flying time in this aircraft. one of the few aircrafts i bought from the store
Great, Deepknot! I’m pleased to hear that you’re enjoying the aircraft. Happy flying and all the best! : )
Quick review! As usual, detailed, informative and highly useful. Thank you for effort. Typical Carenado, but... Why do I have this feeling that their team will, one of these days, begin serially releasing updates version 2? They're already doing "version 1" updates with some basic, subtle improvements for many models. What's to stop them from applying a hearty dose of "study-levelesque" to some of their best efforts, like the Bonanza, Mooney and this 182R? Maybe that Carenado would like to take the lead as THE source of "as real as it gets" aircraft production mechanically as well as visually? (I sure hope my Jedi mind tricks is working! 😸)
Historically, I'm not aware that they ever have. At least on the X-Plane side, the models were decent but still relied on additional third-party add-ons (REP packages) to provide a closer to study-level experience. I'm more concerned about them releasing their products, not fixing major bugs, and stopping support thus moving on. But if their planes will work in MSFS 2024, we may see a continued support model for longer than expected.
Thanks very much Gary, I’m glad you found the video to be of use!
Who knows. . . I’m not sure as to whether Carenado would look to do such a thing, but I’m definitely hoping we’ll see the likes of REP or Black Square tackling such a project at some point. To be fair though, Carenado aren’t doing a half bad job these days; their last few addons have been pretty solid efforts and patches / updates seem to be fairly consistent, if not always that quick. Either way, I too hope your Jedi mind trick works haha!
Many thanks and all the best : )
No tire squeal on touchdown?
ok ok we are waiting for the 207 review hint hint
I’m afraid, it may well be a very long wait, Mike. . . : P
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ah right ok wait for something more worthy.
When i turn avionics on my gps and radios remain completely dark, any ideas ?
Im afraid I’m not sure why that might be the case, JJTT. You aren’t the only one having that issue, from what I have read in the comments. The 182RG was patched just a couple of days ago, has that sorted things for you?
All the best!
It’s weird to watch this video while camping in Sedona near the airport. 🤔
Haha, ultimate immersion! It looks like a beautiful spot to be camping in, I hope you’re enjoying your trip! : )
Hmm... I've got a lot of planes in this "category"... Cessna 414, Cessna 310, Caravan, Bonanza, Kodiak... all "smaller" business planes.... still I somehow think I'll get this (if the review doesn't say it's bad, haven't watched yet)
I also have the 414 and 310 both are great to fly! I do think I would like to have a nice smaller single engine cessna to fly other than the okay at best base game ones.
I don’t know why they don’t include the turbo version.
Excellent review! It's a shame the External Power feature appears to be only "cosmetic". Has anyone got it to actually work, say to recover from a dead battery?
Thanks very much Emale, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
So far as I’m aware, the external power unit is just for show. It is indeed a shame that this is the case, particularly since I don’t believe it would be all that hard for Carenado to implement the feature correctly. . .
Happy flying and all the best : )
Nice review very thorough as always. I’d like to ask Caronado why they have changed some of their aircraft with the ability to open the windows in flight. They allow you to open the door against 140 mile an hour winds, but you can’t open the little windows? I like to hear the roar of the engine from inside and that is very visceral enjoyment for many. What is there reasoning behind this?? I understand the RG is the same way!! If you have any input with Cara Nado please request did they give you the realism of opening the window back and not allow the doors to open in flight. Once again a very thorough review, and that’s why I come to you. Fly safe stay well
Thanks very much Robert, I’m glad you enjoyed the review!
I completely agree with you regarding the windows; the way Carenado have modelled things doesn’t make much sense and it would be nice to at least have the option, when it comes to opening / closing windows in flight. Unfortunately, I have never had any contact with Carenado, let alone do I hold any sway over their modelling decisions.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. Thanks very much for watching and all the best! : )
one quick suggestion: record and upload your videos in at least 1440 to be in line with modern standards. cheers!
Hi Daniel,
Thanks for the suggestion. That was / is the plan but unfortunately, even with my new system, MSFS at Ultra settings (+ addon scenery, AI traffic etc), is still enough to bring the FPS down to borderline-acceptable levels. DLSS would fix that, but I don’t have a Gsync monitor and I experience a lot of screen tearing when using DLSS otherwise.
I will look into things further, but it will take a bit of time and quite possibly some money haha.
Cheers, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yeah I understand. Thanks for taking the time to reply
My pleasure, Daniel! Cheers : )
Terrbly honest review Thank You
Thank *you* , sir! Much appreciated : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations soo temping thoughhh ah mannn
Haha. Always the way I’m afraid XD
@@IntotheBlueSimulations saves me money lol
A classic Cessna 182. A little dream came true for me.
And as so often, Into the Blue Simulations made me aware of it. Many new add-ons appear in MSFS. How do you know what is worth buying? Just watch his reviews and you'll see it.
That's how I go about it!
Haha, well thanks very much Peter, I’m very happy to hear that you’re finding the content useful! I do hope you’re enjoying the 182RG.
Happy flying and all the best : )
Is the pilot position actually in the right place in VR unlike the regular Carenado 182?
I’m afraid I’m not sure on that one, Hunter, not having tried the aircraft in VR myself. If memory serves me correctly, it’s possible to move your seating position around in VR though?
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
Hello I acquired this plane, it has brilliant.
But I noticed that it had no strobe light.
Is it normal ?
Do airline regulations not require you to have one ?
The carenado pa28 archer ii also has no strobe light.
Hi Illdisposo,
Happy to hear that you’re enjoying the 182RG!
My understanding, is that historically, strobe lights were not mandatory on GA aircraft. As such, many aircraft were built without them installed and I believe such aircraft are given exemption (for day VFR) to this day. Carenado have obviously modelled an older C182 and the omission of a strobe light, is quite possibly true-to-life of the real airframe they based their addon on.
Take the above with a pinch of salt, as it’s just based on a little bit of online reading, but I suspect that accounts for the omission.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Shouldn't mixture be set to full rich during takeoff? You left yours in the ground ops setting and never moved it back to full rich before takeoff. I know Sedona is high altitude but still.
I’ve no idea to be honest, DB haha. I’ve never operated a piston engined aircraft at high altitude in the real world, so it’s not something I ever really trained for. Sedona’s elevation was significant enough, that the engine wasn’t producing max power with full mixture, so it seemed logical to me, that leaning for the takeoff would be the way to go (but of course one would have to be careful not to lean the mixture too much for the high power operations of takeoff / climbs). In short, I intentionally left the mixture leaned, but I couldn’t say whether or not that was actually a good idea. If you have any real-world experience / knowledge on the subject, I’d be happy to learn more : )
Cheers. All the best!
What's the difference between this and 182T Skylane?
Hello Ross,
I would say that RG is better in most respects. The aircraft has better texturing, sounds, flight model and avionics options + the steam gauges are a big draw for many (myself included).
I hope that clarifies things a little? All the best : )
Awesome video! However people who model these non carburettor engine such as the 182's lycoming o-540 are fuel injected therefore you start with mixture lean then advance to rich once engine kicks over. Most aircraft that are fuel injected dont do it which is a shame as its a very simple detail to implement. other than that. Love it!
Thanks very much Francis, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
Yes, that sort of accurate modelling always seems to have been lacking in the Microsoft sim franchise (unless you’re looking at A2A’s products etc). I appreciate, that starting with the mixture fully rich may not be accurate, but sometimes I have to adjust procedures to accommodate the addon / for the sake of the video - otherwise we’ll be sitting on the ground all day haha.
Much appreciated! Cheers and all the best : )
The R182 is indeed carbureted.
Do you use the Nvidia colour filters? I love how your game looks and would love to replicate it 🙂
Hi SirLag,
I don’t use the Nvidia filters (though I keep meaning to experiment with them). I do spend a lot of time tweaking the weather / lighting in my videos, which accounts for much of the graphical fidelity, as that can make a huge different to how the sim looks overall. I do also tend to use a little bit of vignette for the external shots (added during editing), so I suppose you could replicate that with the Nvidia filters.
I hope that helps a little! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I does Indeed help thank you very much. And thank you for actually replying. Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks very much! My pleasure and all the best : )
The „manual“ is now available on the website. I‘ve written this two times and my comment got deleted…
Thanks very much for the info Jannik! I’m guessing you were including a link to the website, in your previous posts? Annoyingly, RUclips automatically deletes any posts including a link (I had nothing to do with the deletion at any rate). I gather the lack of documentation with the install, was actually a bug - one which has now been corrected by Carenado : )
Much appreciated and all the best!
Was looking forward to this but the avionics aren't working for me...
Im afraid I’m not sure why that might be the case, Seleukos. You aren’t the only one having that issue, from what I have read in the comments. The 182RG was patched just a couple of days ago, has that sorted things for you?
All the best!
These graphics are amazing. I know very little about computers; can someone please direct me to the cheapest option for a setup to get graphics like this?
Hello Brendan,
Well, that depends a little bit on exactly what you mean by “graphics like this”. To get this *exact* visual fidelity, you’ll most likely need a pretty expensive PC; I’ve just fully upgraded my PC, at significant cost and it’s the first time I’ve been able to crank the graphics all the way up. If you’re just impressed with the sim’s graphical fidelity more generally, a mid-tier PC should be able to get the job done. Much of my older content was recorded on a more mid-range PC (my PC specs are in the description of each video), so that should give you some idea as to the graphical fidelity you could expect there: ruclips.net/video/aZsS-XIEzlc/видео.html
MSFS can also run on a console, which is probably the cheapest option overall, but of course graphical fidelity has been sacrificed in some areas and you will also be rather hamstrung in terms of modding the sim, purchasing addons etc. It is also worth noting, that I spend a lot of time tweaking the weather / lighting in my videos, to get the best out of the sim - MSFS doesn’t always look this good by default.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
hi how r u the developers need to improve the nav strobes and beacon lights they are very dull need to brighten up
Hello Phillip,
All good here thanks, I hope you’re well also!
I think sometimes lighting can be a tricky one to get right, though of course some addons do it better than others; certainly taxi / landing lights can often be too dull in the sim. . . The issue would need to be addressed by each individual developer presumably.
Cheers, all the best! : )
Which scenery for GCN?
Hello Ilari,
I’m afraid I’m not able to link the scenery at the moment, but if you head over to Flightsim.to and search “Grand Canyon National”, you should find it just fine : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
Shame there’s no DME - an essential component in Europe
Indeed, David; it is a shame and I was quite surprised to see that a DME wasn’t included as part of the aircraft’s avionics suite. . .
All the best!
What is this ATC? Where can I get it. Thanks
Hello Deccers,
The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations hi mate. Where do I find the chatter app
H Deccers,
The ATC chatter app is available from Stick and Rudder Studios, I believe (I haven’t actually tried the app myself, but I hear good things from my viewers). I think the program is purchased directly through the website.
I hope that helps. Cheers : )
there is already the Carenado Cessna 182T Skylane,
what's the point with this new plane, only the retractable gear?
Steam gauges
Hello John,
I would say that RG is better in most respects. The aircraft has better texturing, sounds, flight model and avionics options + the steam gauges are a big draw for many (myself included).
I hope that clarifies things a little? All the best : )