Carenado Cessna 337 Skymaster II | Full Flight Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video, we test out the Carenado Cessna 337 Skymaster II within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
This time we'll be heading "down under", for a short outing in southern Australia, heading from Murray Bridge over to Kingscote (Kangaroo Island). As usual we'll be taking an in-depth look at the aircraft and putting it through its paces on a full flight from A to B.
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! 
Игры
I think the issue with the autopilot engagement may be a bit of user error. If I recall, that is not a button but rather a light. The autopilot engage button is on the other autopilot panel which is located on the the centre pedestal below the rudder trim wheel. The on/off switch is the right switch on that panel.
Same place you can find a scroll wheel to control autopilot vertical speed too. Another great and thorough review ITB!
Thank you sir! On both counts. . .
I did actually spot the panel when going over the aircraft initially, but somehow completely forgot about it by the time I came to fly it haha.
Much appreciated! All the best : )
You’re completely correct Corsair! User error on my part. Funny that the rest are buttons and only the AP one is a light though - I was tricked haha.
Thanks very much for the info! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I don’t blame you for thinking that 1/9 buttons should work like 8/9 buttons. I still don’t think think that’s the way it’s supposed to be and will continue to do so until I see evidence otherwise. The autopilot group of buttons is titled “MODE SELECTOR” not mode indicator for a reason.
Haha cheers Aerostar, well at least it isn’t just me! I’d be very surprised if that’s true to life as well, but then I have seen stranger things. . . I saw that Carenado recently released an update for the C337, not sure if maybe this issue has been addressed via the patch.
All the best! : )
On the Skymaster you should always start the rear engine first because once you start the front engine you can't hear the rear engine start, and since you can't see the prop you rely on the sound to verify that the rear engine is running.
Yes, thanks very much for the info, Renato. A few others did point out the same thing; my thought process was that as you can’t see if the prop area of the rear engine is clear, I figured starting the front engine would give any bystanders fair warning but, obviously my logic was flawed haha.
Much appreciated. All the best! : )
As a Skymaster owner you should always start the rear engine first. Because you won’t hear it start over the sound of the front engine.
Yes thank you William, I’ve had a few others point out the same thing. I was trying to apply some logic; I figured starting the front engine first, might be safer from the point of view of alerting any bystanders (ahead of starting the rear engine, which the pilot can’t see). Obviously my logic was flawed though haha, but now I’ll know for the future ; )
Cheers! All the best : )
PS must be great fun owning a 337!
It was always a dream to own one. I was lucky enough to get an O-2A which is the military variant of the 337.
Amazing William! Very cool. I guess if you tire of the day job, you can always hire yourself out for a spot of FAC as well! ; )
All the best!
Thanks for the single engine clip! Was very interested in her SE perf after a few minutes and you read my mind.
My pleasure! I figured it had to be done haha. Something mildly amusing about flying around with the front engine not running (and of course it demonstrates the single-engine performed of the aircraft for the sake of the review).
All the best! : )
Beautiful upload. I love this plane as the quality is super nice and the handling/landing is great with it.
Thanks very much once again QGU! Great to hear you’re enjoying the 337.
Happy flying! : )
Another beautiful Plane! Just got it on release and I must say its excellent for that money! A bit sad that there is no ingame checklist, but that makes me to learn the plane even more! Great Review as always! Love your channel :) keep the quality up mate!
Hi flymax,
Glad you’re enjoying the 337. Indeed it’s a shame about the lack of in-game checklists. Might be worth checking the tablet though; Carenado usually includes a basic checklist for the aircraft on their tablet.
Thank you very much for your kind words, really glad you’re enjoying the channel! All the best : )
Hello fellow Tomcat at dusk enthusiest ;)
@@thomasmolony5099 hahah, nice pp bro!
Ok I admit, I love ga and warbird prop driven aircraft, have since I can’t remember. Have a special fondness for twin tails (a DNA thing?). I was so pleased to see the skymaster, from the day it first came out. It was on my short list of gotta have aircraft. Never had the real thing, so really enjoying flying it in the sim. Thanks ever so for featuring it. Great flight, great commentary as per your usual extremely high standards. Thanks!!
A nice review! I did about 200hrs in one of these in real life in the 80s. I feel the sound is a little out - in real life it has more of a gurgle if you like. The model I flew never had an auto pilot. I found on descent, 16 inches on the throttle would take you all the way down, and as you level out, the speed would drop off nicely to gear extend speed, flaps progression through the circuit and then into final approach with the progressive drag bringing your speed back nicely to approach without ever touching the throttle. She was always a pleasure to fly and very forgiving on landing, with a good butter always the order of the day. The 337 wasn't really a very practical craft. You could carry 6 like a 210, but then there was no luggage space, and a little slower than a non turbo Centurion. So the Centurion performed better, was more practical, but one engine of course... Thanks for bringing back some good memories.
Thanks very much Steve, happy you enjoyed the video - glad it brought back some memories.
Appreciate the info; always interesting to get more of a feel for how an aircraft flies in real life. The 337 certainly looks like it would be good fun to operate. I’ve seen a few flying over the years and indeed, I’d always thought they offered more space than they seemingly do. I suppose there’s a good reason why they generally put the engines on the wings haha.
Thanks again, all the best! : )
Nice aircraft, decently modeled. Im pleased with Carenado offerings, nice variety, decent flying, quite affordable. The review was at the usual high level of production values, thanks much!
Thanks very much once again, Art!
Indeed, I enjoyed the C337 and I still maintain that Carenado have been putting out some nice aircraft for MSFS (not everyone agrees with me, but I feel most anti-Carenado opinions are a bit dogmatic at this point haha).
Cheers and have a great day : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations It's good to have high standards, but one should be appreciative of reasonably high quality. I find the Carenado aircraft to be basically solid and very enjoyable to fly. Reviewers of products who fail to acknowledge the many good points and focus on just a few bad points leave me feeling like the reviewer is more interested in exhibiting themselves than in providing a balanced, useful review. I don't have the spare time for such reviewers and avoid them. In (sometimes rather stark, and pleasingly, so) contrast to your presentations, which I find extremely worthy of my attention (so I view them repeatedly, getting value from each view typically). Thanks to you for many useful tips and ideas; you have contributed substantially to my enjoyment of aircraft, scenery, airports, and Sim flying in general. Just one reader's opinions...
Well, I must say, thank you very much for the kind words once again, Art! It’s cheesy to say but, it’s always a sincere pleasure to hear that someone is enjoying the content.
At this point, I think it’s just “trendy” to bash Carenado. Their bad reputation was initially earned (back in the days of FSX / P3D, they did put out some very buggy products, often with very little after-sales care - although even then, I still enjoyed many of their addons haha) but, they’ve put out pretty consistently decent products for MSFS (sure, some have had bugs and flight model quirks but, the bugs generally get fixed and most MSFS addons have had flight model quirks haha). People also complain that the aircraft aren’t accurate but, they aren’t trying to be so, why judge them as such? Carenado make some beautiful, unique aeroplanes, that are very reasonably priced and generally good fun to fly : )
Many thanks again, sir!
Purchased on the strength of your excellent review. My favourite GA aircraft to date. Thank you 🙏
Hi Andy,
Ah, well I’m really happy to hear you’re enjoying it then! I’m in the same boat, really enjoying the 337 so far.
Cheers and happy flying! : )
Seen many of these as a kid it's up my alley.
Hope you’re enjoying it then ST! : )
Cheers!
So glad I found this page, this is one of my favorite youTube channels. I really enjoy your analysis of flight knowledge and reviews. Would love to see a Global 9000 or a G6 review.😎
Thank you very much indeed for the kind words Headspace! It’s very much appreciated and brilliant to hear that you’re enjoying the channel / content : )
I don’t know whether there’s a Global 9000 or G6 in the works, but I’m sure I’d look to review either of them, if one ever makes it into MSFS.
Cheers and all the best!
Now this is an oddball I like. I do have to say the Skymaster looks rather weird in fight, but in a good way.
I feel like Carenado delivered exactly what I expect from them in terms of quality and pricing.
Sure there's always room for improvemet, but from what I have seen this seems to be a solid product.
Thank you for the review, especially since you're rather busy.
Cheers!
Completely agree Dream. The aircraft looks both odd and rather great at the same time haha. Carenado delivered in-line with the rest of their MSFS products, which I’m happy with at any rate.
My pleasure on the review. I have indeed been keeping busy haha! Cheers : )
GREAT flight (as usual) and the plane is what you would expect from Carenado. I personally feel you get what you pay for when purchasing a Carenado product. As always, if you want to go into "microsope mode" we can always find details that can be improved which is mostly in the modeling. As you point out there are a few things in the cockpit that need to be corrected in a future update, and I am sure they will. Looking forward to the next flight! !! !!!
Thanks again Mark!
Very true. Carenado certainly had their ups and downs in FSX / P3D (and the value for money wasn’t always there with some of their older stuff) but in MSFS so far, I’ve been very happy with their output for the most part (the Arrow III was a bit of a “wobble”). Given the price, I think their products are generally a pretty nice option these days and I’m rather enjoying the 337 thus far. A patch is needed to clean a few things up, but that seems to be par for the course with any developer these days. . .
Hope you had a great weekend. All the best! : )
I always love these "reviews" from you Blue, it has everything, getting the aircraft into the air from cold. Brilliant. I was awed by Carenado's faithful gear mechanics just beautiful how the wheels packed away in the rear, well done to them. I would buy this addon in a heartbeat as it's got to be one of their best so far, it's absolutely gorgeous...BUT :P
I wish they would include a pilot/copilot system like SimWings added via weight. In the ipad (which you didn't cover tsk tsk) you there have the option to show both pilots but only in 3rd person.
I immerse myself fully in the flight sim, so I ALWAYS have a copilot in 1st person and the biggest reason I don't buy more third party aircraft, inc helicopters is none of the addonmakers include this option. All you addonmakers, take a leaf out of SimWings book (inc you too JF) don't make these funky custom pilots, just add the default and the option to add a copilot in the ipad and a weight option for them to show in 1st person, everyone is happy and I would have bought this in a heartbeat.
I hope Carenado might update this in the future because unless I can fly with copilot 14, from the default sim, in 1st person, I won't buy it. (unless there's a mod later) This Cessna is of course a beautiful addon, it's sad as there's so many really great addons coming out like BRsim Designs Beechcraft V Tail Bonanza (I love the classic gauge aircrafts as well) but no copilot? Oh well.
Hi Brave Heart,
Very kind as always, I'm glad you enjoyed the video (despite me missing the ipad haha - which I did mean to cover, but forgot, as I am only human after all : P ).
I completely agree; now that the precedent has been set by SWS and to some degree MILVIZ, it's a feature I would hope to see brought into more addons. It shouldn't be all that hard to achieve (I prefer custom pilot models myself, but the Asobo one's would certainly do the trick) and it really adds to the immersion overall. JF did actually have this feature early on with their Arrow III, did they do away with it then?
Anyway the feature exists in the sim, let's make use of it!
Cheers : )
Did not let down my expectations this time either. Thanks.
Thank you very much sir, my pleasure! Glad to hear it ; )
As an air cadet, I had the opportunity to go for a "ride along" in one of these flown by the USAF (a long time ago, obviously!). We flew out to a bombing range and FAC'd for various attackers, launching smoke rockets to mark targets, and all sorts of very cool things!
While Carenado may not be "study level", they've certainly raised their standards for MSFS (for anyone with experience using their FSX products, the improvement is easy to see). Because of that, the 337 cool factor, and nostalgia, this addon is definitely being added to my hanger!
Thanks for the usual fair and balanced review - some of the others I've seen are quite lacking.
Haha, well I don't know which Air Cadets you joined Urgent, but that's waaay cooler than anything I ever got to do?! : P Sounds brilliant. Very memorable I'm sure!
I can certainly see why Carenado doesn't have a stellar reputation and I can also understand why some refuse to ever give them another penny haha. Objectively though, their work is much improved in MSFS (sure they still have bugs on release, but they've pretty much been fixing them without fail so far) and so far I have really enjoyed all of their output for the sim (though the Arrow III had me concerned, that they were heading back to their old ways).
They produce some very beautiful aircraft with decent sounds and acceptable systems / flight models, all for (what I think) is a very fair price. To discount them entirely these days, I think one would be missing out! I hope they keep it up.
Glad you enjoyed the review - thanks for the kind feedback. All the best! : )
I've really been waiting for this review. Carenado's aircraft suit me mainly because I am a casual/occasional flyer. I have enjoyed their earlier version of the 337 in FSX and P3D. This new release is a slightly different model and a little more powerful. I see there are a few small niggles which I am sure Carenado will put right and I think it fair to say that I am going to enjoy flying this bird. Thanks as always for the review. 😎
Hi Squirel,
Cheers, hope the video was of use then! I think Carenado’s MSFS output has been pretty great for the most part and their stuff is certainly a nice option for the “average” simmer. Interesting that they went for a slightly different model in MSFS, I didn’t realise that.
Hope you’re enjoying the C337 then. Happy flying! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I can confirm that she is a joy to fly. She hand flies well after a slight adjustment to rudder trim (and it is very slight but enough to stop her pulling to the right). It is definitely faster than earlier iterations in FSX and P3D thus making it a good GA touring plane. Very happy flying indeed. 😁
Great, glad you’re happy with her! Hoping to get another flight in with the 337 (on the channel) soon(ish) haha.
Cheers! : )
I remember thinking how amazing this looked when it was released, but looking back now... the Carenado aircraft may be stunning visually, but there is just so little complexity. Every bit of these aircraft just feel empty once you've been flying aircraft with random failures and deep systems. Even many of the labels are wrong in this aircraft, like the engine monitor is for a single engine aircraft. I guess they're great if you only like the eye candy, but I would take the systems any day.
Hi Toby,
I’m actually one of the people who don’t mind the Carenado aircraft for what they are. For sure it would be nice to see more depth on their addons (and they don’t come close to the likes of the Black Square King Air), but I still find most of their aircraft enjoyable for a bit of a cruise and they do make some interesting airframes, that others might not touch (the 337 being a case in point). What I’m secretly hoping for, is that Black Square manage to do some sort of tie-in with the Carenado aircraft, that could be epic (and I think it should be possible, since REP did something similar with some of the Carenado offerings in X-Plane 11)! We shall have to wait and see. . .
Cheers once again and all the best! : )
You were right! It was dx12 and it runs perfectly in dx11.
It's one of my favourites now.
Many thanks.
Perfect! Glad it was an easy fix and that you're enjoying the aircraft now.
Cheers Rob - all the best : )
great review as always.
Thanks very much Jerry! Glad you enjoyed it : )
Seriously thinking about this gorgeous machinery!
The C337 is one of Carenado’s better efforts to date, BC (though I’ve enjoyed most of their stuff in MSFS) and most people seem to hold a good opinion of the addon. Carenado also just upgraded the aircraft to “V2” (though I think that’s more of a bug fixing exercise, rather than a drastic overhaul) annnnd, I could be wrong, but I think the aircraft is currently on sale also? Food for thought ; )
Cheers, all the best!
I was looking forward to this plane so glad to see it's pretty decent. I think Carenado are alright. In the past their products were very much a mixed bag, some pretty decent some a bit shit but for MSFS it looks like they've upped their game a bit and have been putting out solid products. I hope they bring the Alabeo Staggerwing over, it flew nicely in FSX and is a beautiful plane and would look absolutely stunning in MSFS. That airfield you landed at looked quite cool, especially the winding river on final. I was hoping throughout the review that you'd try shutting off the front engine so was quite pleased at the end when you did! Thanks again for your reviews and videos, top tier stuff!
Yeah, I know not everyone will agree, but I think Carenado have really upped their game coming into MSFS and I’ve really been enjoying their output for the sim so far (things got a little wonky with the Arrow III). They were hit and miss in the past for sure, but I would say that they’re a “good” developer as of MSFS (their products aren’t perfect, but then they aren’t expensive either. I hope they keep it up and don’t slip back into their old ways.
I’d take a staggering for sure! I think their T-34 was one of my used sim aircraft of all time, so I’d be more than happy to see that (though not expecting we will). It’d be nice to see some of their turboprops as well - though usually the complex stuff, is where they start to fall down. . .
I knewwww you’d be wanting to see single-engine ops Megadyptes, that demo was just for you! ; )
Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Ah I bet you say that to all the boys!
Wouldn’t like to kiss and tell Megadyptes! XD
I bought it. Probably best Carenado yet. I do like the sounds! Decent external/internal modeling. Most important flies like an airplane and NOT like the usual nervous, twitchy, wonky stuff on FS2020. Compared with real manual and perf modelling really good. Well done.
PS Excellent review as usual
Very happy to hear you’re enjoying the 337 so far Inver! I agree; a very solid effort from Carenado and, for all the flack they get, they really are one of the better “low fidelity” devs in the sim now (in my opinion).
I’m glad you enjoyed the review! Thanks very much for watching and happy flying : )
Ayyyye never thought id be seeing/hearing some RAdelaide representation on here! Appreciate the liveatc additions. I've spent a lot of time listening in to ypad atc, definitely made the video familiar to me:) nice work
Agreed! I was looking forward to this review and icing on the cake was it took place in my home state
Haha! RAdelaide eh? Well I’m glad you enjoyed a little something closer to home Greasy.
Cheers! : )
Haha, glad you enjoyed a little bit of home representation as well Mike!
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Flew just North of my house. :)
Haha, I’d have waved if I’d known Sounder! ; )
I think this is one of the best cockpits Carenado has done so far next to the C170 cockpit. Sound wise from the videos I’ve seen the engine sounds seems decently accurate. This does seem like a good effort from Carenado.
Also like someone mentioned the Autopilot master switch is down on the pedestal next to a climb/descent knob and a turn left/right knob. Some of the switches on this plane seem to be in bizarre locations 😂
Completely agree Hartbreak, I really like the cockpit and the 337 is a decent effort from Carenado overall.
Thanks for the heads up re the autopilot. I did spot it when I was initially going over the aircraft, but somehow completely forgot it existed by the time I came to fly the thing XD
Cheers! : )
Loved your review, honestly the best of the bunch I've seen. I spent some hours with the 337 today and overall really liked it. Wish there was some better documentation, especially for the auto pilot and the EGT/CHT monitor. But I can see myself spending more time in this beautiful cockpit, with a modern touch added by the optional GTN750 :)
As the temp spread between the cylinders is quite high, I would not recommend to run LOP.
My recommendation is at least 25f ROP EGT on the hottest cylinder below ~70% rated power, above that 100F ROP.
Thatall is by the rule of thumb.
You can a actually find the JPI EDM-800 manual on line. It is only the lean part that is modelled. IRL it is more comprehensive. 57 pages.
I can’t promise I’ll have remembered this by the time I come to fly the C337 again haha, but a nice little rule of thumb nonetheless. Thanks! : )
I did use one of these gauges many moons ago. When I tried it in the Carenado C337, it seemed to “refresh” a lot more slowly than I recall, but maybe that’s just my bad memory haha. I’ll have to take a look at the manual when I get the chance then. Thanks Fryns Fryns! : )
Thanks very much Volker, very kind of you to say!
I’m really enjoying the aircraft as well, although haven’t had too much time to fly it yet myself. Documentation is lacking, tends to be the way with Carenado unfortunately. . .
Happy flying! : )
I also searched for the autopilot master switch in the 337 for the FSX. :) It's further down the center console. There are also additional autopilot controls.
Yes, thank you very much Chris! I’ve had a few others point me in the right direction also haha. As soon as someone mentioned it, I recalled having seen the little panel down below when I was initially going over the aircraft XD
Much appreciated! All the best : )
Great review! Disappointed you didn't check out the tablet, though I suspect it's the same as for their other planes.
Thanks very much William!
Yes, a bit of an omission on my part. I had actually mean to cover the tablet, but then totally forgot unfortunately ha. As you correctly surmise though, it’s functionality is exactly the same as with all of the other Carenado aircraft.
Thanks again for watching! All the best : )
I'll be buying this and the twin otter so excited
Hope you enjoy them both then Bsting. Happy flying! : )
This looks like one of Carenado's better offerings. That said, I've spent an awful lot of money on Carenado airplanes over the years and I can't say I'm planning to get another for now. With FS2020, my focus isn't so much on trying every airplane as much as the best planes and the *right* planes for me. There are others coming along.
Hi Coast Flyer,
Yes, I would say that it is one of their nicer offerings overall (although as I said during the review, I’ve appreciated their MSFS output for the most part). I totally understand where you’re coming from; always better to have quality over quantity and certainly better to cherry pick the aircraft that you think you’ll actually get good use out of. That’s generally how I’ve always tried to make my purchases in the past - I obviously tend to purchase quite a few more products these days though haha.
Cheers! : )
Thanks for yet another nice review. Looks like quite a nice plane. One thing i do miss a little is a bit of a showcase of visibility out of the side when flying. As someone who loves to fly VFR and watch the landscape glide past i find that quite important.
Deffintely looks like a plane i may pick up at some point. Very unique plane.
Edit: Oh and i absolutely love the pannel, just like the Arrow, with the steamgauges and some modern avionics for navigation is perfect.
Thanks again Coenraad!
Yeah, I rather enjoy the 337 overall. Nice to fly, decent sounds, it's quirky and as you mention, the panel just hits the sweet spot!
If I understand your point correctly, you're asking for a demonstration of the aircrafts general visibility in future reviews? A very valid request! I'll try my best to remember. . .
Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks. Aye the general visibility out of the window while flying, would be much appreciated.
Sure looks good
I’ll try my best to remember that one for next time then ; )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Well, 6 months later and i just got this little bird a week or so ago. My first Carenado plane and i was honestly very pleasantly surprised as how it flew, nice throathy engine sounds, and such amazing visibility. Real nice one.
I remember seeing the sky master real world at an executive facility ( MacAlpines) at Luton airport when I was a youngster “ plane spotting” along with Riley Doves and airliners belonging to Autair ie Vickers Vikings the sky master looked exotic with the twin boom arrangement. I suppose now possibly say it’s “ iconic” ?
Good review as always assume the tablet works looked to be R/H lower near floor location, function allowing the GTN 750 as a navigation option along with the usual other Carenado options. Disappointing that the A/P master switch not working unless actuated by preset key / switch.
A few months ago I was “champing at the bit” to get this in my virtual hangar not so sure now, maybe spend the money on the twin otter when released from Aerosoft. Kind Regards Charlie
Indeed Charlie, I suppose you could say it’s a bit of an iconic design these days. I find the 337 looks both a little bit odd and aesthetically pleasing at the same time haha.
Yes, a bit of an omission on my part, forgetting to cover the tablet. It has all of the same functionality as on the other Carenado aircraft though (including the option to switch out the GNS530 for the GTN750). A mistake on my part regarding the autopilot master as well. There’s actually another AP panel down on the lower console. It contains the AP master as well as a pitch and roll wheel. (I saw it when going over the aircraft, but somehow forgot about it at the time haha). Still a little bit strange that all the buttons worked except the AP one though. . .
The C377 is nice, but I would say the Twin Otter offers more depth and versatility overall.
Cheers! : )
Thank you
Thanks Kevin! : )
Another professional, thorough review - thank you! Quick question - do you use some sort of add-on for your comm radio voices?
Thank you very much Jim, glad you enjoyed it - my pleasure!
For the radio, it’s just real-world ATC recordings (from LiveATC.net) that I’ve edited into the video. I believe there is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
All the best!
SOP on the 337 is to start the rear engine first. You can't see the prop, so you go a lot by sound on the startup. Also, SE Performance is best on the rear engine. Flys like a bigger 182 or 210!
Thanks Robert.
Someone else pointed this out also. 50/50 and I was bound to get it wrong haha. My logic was that as the pilot can’t see what’s going on behind, at least starting the front engine first would give any bystanders fair warning of the situation - flawed logic apparently though haha.
Is the rear engine actually a little more powerful (I see the two idle at slightly different rpms), or is it just that the pusher prop is a little more efficient overall?
Cheers for the info! : )
The C337-H (ver-1.0.0) for MSFS has a problem with the Prop levers not causing a change in the RPM's of the engines when you "Cycle" the Prop levers.
I reported this to Carenado, they replied that they would look into this issue.
I also noticed that sometimes the ADF needle swings erratically even though you are holding a stead track - not sure why.
It does indeed SimAirFlyer. I had the same experience during the review. Thanks very much for reporting it to Carenado though!
The ADF’s may not be their fault - I noticed some strange ADF behaviour on the MILVIZ Twin Otter as well recently. Perhaps there’s currently an issue in the sim?
Cheers and all the best! : )
Many aircraft with adjustable pitch blades require a lot of oil pressure to operate...if you take the MP up high...the prop levers do indeed change the pitch/rpm during cycling. During run up on a real 182T we cycle the blades at 1800 rpm
Indeed Tim. It could be that there’s something specific with the 337’s engines, but the Carenado- provided checklist calls for 1,800 rpm during the run-up and cycling the props at that power setting does absolutely nothing currently. Every constant speed aircraft I’ve ever flown, you’ll see an effect cycling the prop during the run up (as you allude to). So it could be aircraft specific, but I think it’s more likely something that Carenado needs to fix (the same was true of their Arrow III on release).
Cheers : )
The no hud vibe is amazing, how you do that i got no idea, but i love it.
Hi Nick,
Thanks very much, glad you liked the vibe; I try and keep as much UI off the screen as I can, just to enhance the immersion. If memory serves me correctly, you can go into your assistance option to turn off the HUD in various views : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations oh wow, so you must have a lot of buttons and stuff in your home cockpit? Amazing 👏 top stuff
I have a Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, so that usually gives me enough options for setting up controls etc yes.
Thanks again! : )
I always liked this airplane...I remember they were used in Vietnam...
Hi Larry,
The C337 is certainly rather unique and it does have its charms for sure, the addon also one of Carenado’s best pieces of work to date I would say. It’s a shame Carenado didn’t include a military paint scheme, but I’ve no doubt somebody else will have seen to that by now.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Thanks for this excellent review (as always). I purchased the plane as soon as it was available. Wondering if you found a discrepancy with the throttle quadrant? I have the Honeycomb Throttle and discovered that the left handles (throttle, prope, mixture) controlled the rear engine and right handles the front engine. The labels says front and then rear. I had to create a separate profile for the 337 with these switched so they matched the physical throttle unit. Did you have the same issue?
Also: for descending the ascending, there is a knob on the A/P at the bottom of the pedestal that can be used to set amount of vertical speed. It is a little cumbersome but works once you get the hang of it.
Thanks!
My pleasure Dennis!
I expect I probably am suffering the same issue as you, but I use a Warthog HOTAS at the moment and assign each control (throttle, prop, mixture) to a single axis. As a result, any such discrepancy isn’t really noticeable. I do hope that Carenado get that fixed up then - shouldn’t be too tricky.
Thanks re the autopilot. Despite having seen the unit when first checking out the aircraft, for some reason my brain forgot all about it during the flight haha!
Cheers once again Dennis! All the best : )
The throttle, prop, and mixture are flipped using my virtual fly TQ6 also...just like your honeycomb. ...just like you I set up a custom profile.
One other issue is the auto pilot at startup .....altitude is set at 99,999'. I am using 2 touch screens and 2 knobsters running air manager and as soon as you turn on the avionics master is shows that altitude on the AP140 and the G5.
Thank you for this very enjoyable and informative review. Based on which I've bought it it. Right... I'm off to Le Touquet from Dunkerswell. Fond memories.😀 (Edit.
Assuming I'm allowed into france now? 😂)
My pleasure as always John!
Haha, bon voyage! I do hope your don’t get turned around over the channel XD
Thanks! : )
this just came out for xbox, i need to purchase it!
Ah great! Happy flying : )
A beautiful purr
Hehe, I thought it sounded like more of an angry kitty personally Rachel XD
Excellent immersive video again as always. Thank you. Are you using TrackIR in the video ? if so would you share your TrackIR settings ? i dont get my TrackIR to be as smooth as yours. Thank you Michael
Thanks very much Michael, glad you enjoyed it!
Yep, I am indeed using TrackIR and I’d be happy to share my profile. If you send me an email to intotheblueinbox@gmail.com, I’ll send it over when I get the chance : )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations email is coming thx a lot sir :)
Nice review
What track ir do you have and your set up monitor etc?
Thanks very much Marc, glad you enjoyed it!
I have TrackIR 5 and I am using it with the Track Clip Pro; just using a single monitor setup. Nothing too fancy, but it works pretty well for the most part.
I hope that helps? All the best! : )
I would have liked to see you review the panel and go over the various gauges, especially change the weather and see how the weather radar worked. Where’s the tablet? Thanks for another video!
Look at the copilots door
Thanks again Martin!
Cheers Jason,
Fair point. I did actually cover the EGT gauge initially, but that got edited out of the video. As for the weather radar, it’s the same as the Seneca’s and is essentially just using the default Asobo architecture (which I gather is broken at the moment anyway?). The tablet, as Martin kindly points out, is down on the sidewall of the right footwell. The functionality is the same as Carenado’s other offerings.
Cheers again! All the best : )
Great review! Thank you very much!
Do you have a list with your installed mods or could you just tell me how the mod for atc chatter is called?
Hi No One,
I actually use very few mods other than Payware aircraft. Pretty much the only mod I consistently run in my sim is the “No Toolbar Handle” mod. The ATC chatter is actually just recordings that I’ve taken from LiveATC.net and then edited into the video. I believe there is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after. . .
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Always start the rear engine first on the 337.
Hi AI, yep thanks!
A few others have pointed this out. 50/50 chance and of course I chose wrong haha. I figured that starting the front engine first might be a good idea, as the area is more visible to the pilot (and the engine running would then warn any bystanders to keep clear of the aircraft), but apparently not. . . Well, now I know ; )
Cheers! : )
auto-pilot engagement switch is down by the rudder trim. You were looking in the wrong place.
Ah, thank you Dornado! As soon as I saw your comment, I recalled seeing that little AP panel hidden away down below (but forgot about it during the review) haha. If I remember correctly, that’s where the pitch wheel lives as well (that I couldn’t find at the time). . . I still wonder whether that AP button should have a click spot or not though (since all the others did)?
Cheers! Thanks for help : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah I only knew cause I had the same frustration with a Carenado plane many years ago and also own this beauty 337:) I believe they said they do it this way because the real 337 they used in making this model had it this way. Great review!
Haha, well thanks very much for the info once again! Glad you enjoyed the video : )
Cheers!
Actually, I prefer choosing my pilots and Asobo gives me that choice. Thanks for this, though.
I know I’m in the minority on that one haha. I just don’t think the Asobo models look all that realistic - but I know most people prefer having the choice.
My pleasure on the video! Thanks very much for watching : )
The right wing low might be because of the weather radar being on that side of the wing.
Ahh, very good point Stix! I wonder whether the weight and / or aerodynamics have actually been modelled. . .
Cheers! : )
may i ask... when you do you replays how can you change cameras after words? MF2020 doesnt alow that yet
Hi Guilherme,
I basically record the flight using a 3rd party recording tool and then later replay the recording and then capture any external shots / camera views that I need for the video. As you say, unfortunately the sim doesn't really support any such functionality currently.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations oh thx
I knew there was a button for the autopilot somewhere as I purchased an Just Flight plane recently that had that feature. Don't feel too bad about it as another reviewer also missed that. I like this plane. Great review.
Haha yeah, a bit of a silly miss, but you can't win 'em all I suppose XD
What's more frustrating, is that I actually saw the AP panel when I was giving the aircraft the once-over, but then somehow totally forgot about it in flight haha.
The 337 is certainly a nice effort from Carenado though, I've been enjoying it myself as well.
Thanks very much for watching, glad you enjoyed it! All the best : )
Heeyyy... you didnt wave when u flew over my house !! 😂
Haha, I’m sorry Brandon! I was busy trying to find the autopilot master switch XD
I’ll wave next time ; )
Great video! Does she taxi well or is she a slippery one? Thank you
Thanks Rocky, glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah, I’d say the 337 taxi’s reasonably well overall. My main takeaways were it needed a fair bit of power to get moving (a little too much perhaps) and quite a bit of movement on the pedals to get her turning (which I liked). I must admit, I don’t recall how readily she picked up speed etc.
To be fair, I haven’t had a chance to fly the aircraft much since the video (just been too busy), so I don’t have a tonne of experience in it yet; I can’t be a whole lot more specific therefore I’m afraid.
I hope that helps a little though. All the best! : )
I love this addon to MSFS except ADF frequencies cannot be set! Is this a problem only for me???? 2nd digit does not move!
Hi Colizoli,
Yeah, the C337 is a very nice addon overall!
I can’t remember 100% if this advice applies to the 337; I think you may have to click on the centre of the knob to “pull it out” and then you can select the 2nd digit (it certainly applies to some addons / ADF radios, but I don’t have access to the 337 right this minute to check).
I hope that helps! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the reply.
I still cannot get the ADF to work. BTW, I have the same problem in Carenado's Seneca model. Carenado support is working on this ADF issue.
I use to own a P337H, N2QX (1978) and this mod is very realistic!!! Oh the memories!!!
Regards, joe
What addon for authentic radio chatter do you use?
Hello again Sven : )
It’s actually just real world recordings from LiveATC.net, that I then edit into the video. I believe there is an MSFS ATC chatter available though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after.
Cheers!
The Cardinal rule (🙃) of the Mixmaster is to NEVER start the front engine first!😉
Haha, 50/50 and I was sure I’d get it wrong. What’s the reasoning behind that then?
There was some method to my madness: I figured as the pilot can’t see the rear engine, perhaps it’s better to start the front engine first and then the noise should have anybody in the vicinity sufficiently conscious of the situation, not to go standing behind the aircraft. So much for that logic then XD
Cheers! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations back in the day there were some incidents/ accidents were pilots simply forgot to start the rear engine.
Another thing is that there is no way to listen to the rear engine as soon the front one runs. 😉
Ah. Well that’s not a good idea. . . XD
Yep, all makes sense now that you mention it. Cheers! : )
Did you observe that the engine controls in the model are reversed? i.e. the normal Left engine, prop, and mixture controls on my Bravo throttle quadrant operate the Right throttle controls in the aircraft, which is backwards.
I didn’t but I have my throttle, prop and mixture all bound to a respective single axis, so I was always operating both engine controls in tandem (hence why I didn’t notice). Others have mentioned the same - hopefully it will be fixed up in the first patch.
Thanks, all the best! : )
Great video as always.
May I ask what ATC voices you are using? I've had the ATC Azure voices dropping out every flight since SU5, it's gotten to the point where I've had to turn the ATC off completely!
I'd like to know too
Hi Keith,
I’m actually just using real world ATC recordings, that I then edit into the video. I agree that the default ATC is pretty useless and I’ve given up with it myself also. There is apparently an ATC chatter app available for MSFS, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after.
Hope that helps! All the best : )
Hi Andrei,
As per my reply to Keith, they are real world ATC recordings, that I have then edited into the video. If you want to listen along to some live ATC, you can head over to LiveATC.net.
Cheers! : )
Hi there, I noticed that you used both TrackIR and a VR headset together. I don't know the idea how they work together?
Hi Eddie,
Actually, it was just the TrackIR that I was using in the video : )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Oh I see...
Great video, thank you!
Thanks very much Eddie! My pleasure : )
now the Mach Loop!!!
Yeah, I think this would be a fun one Daniel! I'll have to try and find a nice USAF livery for it. I'll put it on the list ; )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations there used to be a lot of cool liveries for the FSX/P3D versions hopefully they make their way to msfs
I’m sure many of them will. I’ll keep an eye out ; )
Cheers Daniel!
Just wondering what type of monitor(s) do you use?
Nothing very interesting at all I'm afraid Curtis haha. I use a 32 inch 1080p LG monitor and in fact it's not even a monitor, but a TV ha. Nothing flash, but it gets the job done ; )
I hope that helps. All the best!
I recently purchased this aircraft on the marketplace. When I change the view from outside camera to the cockpit one it freezes and crashes the sim!
Sorry to hear that FW. I hear a few others are having CTD issues as well. I haven’t experienced any such issues myself, so I’m not sure what might be causing it I’m afraid. Are you running DX11 (DX12 can cause issues with some 3rd party aircraft currently)?
I hope you manage to get it figured out. All the best!
This question might sound really stupid but how do you move your camera around so freely? I can only look up, down, left and right with my mouse.
Hi Jack,
I use a device called TrackIR. It monitors one’s head movements and then inputs them into the sim. It’s great, though a little pricey. There are cheaper / freeware options available also, if you want to give it a try (FaceTrackNOIR for example).
I hope that clarifies things. Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ahh right, I'm on xbox so I'm guessing it wouldn't work
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for you reply
Ah yes, in that case I’m afraid not Jack. It’s a PC-only piece of hardware unfortunately.
All the best! : )
in certain angle it looks like the plane is cut in half lol
Haha, it does rather! I still enjoy the novelty of shutting the front engine down and continuing to fly “deadstick” XD
All the best : )
Have you tried the toe brakes by any chance? Be in for a laugh if you haven't XD
Haha, well I'm sure I did, but I didn't notice anything untoward. . . or is there a visual bug or something? I'm intrigued now ha!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations For me, they rotate in the opposite wrong axis, kinda like reverse heel brakes, and when you press the left brake, both of the co-pilot's brakes go, and when you press the right brake, both of the pilot's brakes go.
I'm not really sure how it got through testing lmao
Haha! I missed that one. Dare I say it, a very” Carenado” kind of issue. . . XD
Has anyone noticed that this plane flies a bit nose down in level flight from the cockpit? It never feels level in even flight. Like it's descending. It might be me.
beautiful plane , i can t takeoff, has a bug from the begining, not solved yet. on xbox no working.. 🤨
Hi Ivan,
Sorry to hear about that. What’s preventing you from taking off, what’s the bug?
All the best!
Nice looking plane, but the bar for immersion has been raised by other developers
Very true G naq. The F-3F isn’t anything particularly special - only really worth picking up, if one specifically likes the aircraft and wants it in their virtual hangar. Personally I enjoy it, but there are certainly higher quality options out there.
Cheers!
I've always loved the 337. I'm not much of a "civil aircraft" fan, but this one has always hit all the right buttons for me. Great review as always. I'll be adding this fav of mine to my....lord help me....every growing stable. hahah BTW: You're obviously using some ATC coms addon as the coms sound far more true to life than the cartoon like, standard "tree, tree, fife" (how they say 335) robotic, standard FS ATC radio traffic sounds. What are you using?
Yea indeed, the 337 an interesting aircraft for sure 5dmk. Whilst it is a civilian aircraft, it does also have a little bit of military heritage, so you won’t really be breaking your own rules ; )
The ATC I use in my videos is actually just real world recordings (from LiveATC.net) that I then edit into the video. I believe there is also an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though. The MSFS default ATC is unfortunately bordering on the useless; a real shame, since the FSX / P3D ATC was actually pretty good overall.
Hope that helps! Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations OK....that makes sense. FS's ATC is awful, but it's their ground control ops that is just abysmal. Every vehicle is drawn to you like flies to a turd. Every ground instruction sends you on the longest, most complicated possible route to parking. Takeoff runways are always assigned to have you depart in the exact opposite direction of your desired departure direction. Their ground ops looks deliberately designed to tick you off and see how much crap you'll take before you just ignore all ground ops entirely.
Love that true life radio chatter you edit in. Really adds to your vids. Thanks buddy.
Stable? Lol you mean Hangar
but perhaps 5dmk has a Mustang in there also : P
@@rockyjetproject1345 "Stable, when it comes to aircraft....or cars...is often used in place of "hangar. or garage" It's not just a term for housing horses and is synonymous with, "collection of."
Great Video! 23:24 There is another autopilot in the lower part of the pedastral.
Thanks very much Martin!
Haha, indeed. I spotted the other AP panel when going over the aircraft, but somehow I completely forgot it existed during the video XD
Thanks for the info! Much appreciated : )
The MODE SELECTOR don't work correctly.
-- The AP is not operating (on or off) with the mouse. It's working from a button on my joystick.
-- When the AP is engage the trim is not working. I can't climb or desent.
The GTN750 looks very faded. Miss contrast and colors are very poors.
Hi JP,
Sounds like you're experiencing the same issues I had during the video. What I had missed at the time (and I expect you may have found by now) is there is actually another autopilot unit, located on the lower console. This unit has an autopilot master, pitch wheel, roll wheel etc. . .
As for the GTN 750, I haven't had a chance to try that myself in the aircraft. I'm surprised that the aircraft would be causing such an issue (as opposed to it being an issue with the mod itself), but I'm sure you know more than I do about that one!
I hope that helps a bit. All the best : )
I'm a licensed commercial/twin/multi/IFR pilot and frequent flight simmer since FS 1995. Let me preface tmy comments by saying I enjoyed your video a lot but have a question or two, if that's okay with you.
Just wondering why you took off without flaps extended? Was that because you were lightly loaded with just you onboard, half fuel and chose a long runway and therefore didn't need flaps? That might explain why you rotated at nearly 85 knots!
In the real world, the book number for Vr varies somewhat, depending upon the amount of flaps extended and the aircraft's takeoff weight. Fully loaded the 337's zero degree flap rotation speed would be only about 60 knots (69 mph), just a paltry 5 knots above the lowly Cessna 172's Vr. Rotating at significantly higher than standard speeds puts more stress on the tires and extened hetakeoff roll unnecessarily. If both mills quit at 200 feet above ground level. say, due the fuel selectors being set incorrectly, you'd rather not have to wait for the flaps to become fully extended in the froughly 15 seconds you have left before contacting the ground.
Essentially Vr starts at the beginning of the thicker section of the white arc on the airspeed indicator, which for the 337 begins at 60 knots and ends at 88 knots. The thinner white arc above that is the flaps10 degrees allowable airspeed band, which permits speeds with ten degres of flaps extneded from sixty to one-hundred-and-ten knots. Or if you want to ... say ... cruise climb at 110 knots with 10 degess of flaps extended for some reason, or choose to throw out the first notch of flaps at 110 knots as a speed brake on close final to a large, busy airport.
With ten degrees of flaps extended, the C-337's stall speed would be a bit lower than its Vs value of about 58 knots. With full flaps extend Vso might be as low as 54 or 55 knots; even a bit lower if you're flying away at well below max takeof weight (MTOW).
Also, If you had the pitch trim set to the takeoff setting prior to the takeoff roll and just held the wheel back in your lap, the Skymaster's nose will lifted up obediently at 60 knots, folowed by the mains a knot or two faster. At least that's wha happns in a real airplane, not a game lie FS 2020.
Lastly, I believe you mentioned one wing seemed a bit heavy. I flew in a P-337 a few dozen times on busines trips back in the 1980s. I believe it had aileron trim installed. I'm not sure whether the normally aspirated or turbo-charge models had that feature as an option.
Hello Douglas,
Thanks very much; I’m glad you enjoyed the video and indeed, I’m always happy to try and answer any questions!
Your question regarding the flap setting, is a fairly easy one to answer. I was using the C337 checklist provided with the addon and for a Normal Takeoff, the checklist states that the flaps can be set anywhere from UP to 1/3 DOWN. I don’t know whether that’s true to life, but obviously I can’t learn every addon aircraft to the Nth degree, so have to rely pretty heavily on checklists for my videos. I opted to go with flaps up because, as you mention, the aircraft was lightly loaded and runway length wasn’t limiting.
With regards to the rotation speed, I don’t recall now in all honesty but, either I misread the checklist and rotated at 85kts instead of 85mph (quite likely), or I was just using a guesstimated speed for Vr which again, I often tend to do when flying GA aircraft in the sim, as I can’t commit exact speeds for each type to memory (but most GA aircraft fly to roughly the same numbers and can be flown somewhat by “feel” in the sim anyway).
I don’t recall whether or not Carenado’s C337 has aileron trim. I’m sure it probably does, if the real-world aircraft is also equipped as such. My natural inclination was to try and trim out the rolling tendency with rudder trim (for which I have hardware binds assigned) but of course, aileron trim would make more sense with the push / pull prop configuration (I didn’t even think to try it haha).
I hope that clarifies things a little? All the best! : )
Not sure whether "... aileron trim would make more sense with the push/pull prop configuration ..." of th C-337.
I just think the natural inclination, at least for my flying, would be to add a roll input to lift a low wing back to level, then simply employ aileron trim as necesary to keep the wings level. I don't think that would be affected by whether airplane is a single tractor driven design, a pusher design, a convention side by side twin or a push/pull twin design like the Skymaster, Adams A500, Rutan Defiant, Dornier 335 and the exquisite twin turboprop Dornier Seastar.
Of course for every aircraft equipped with aileron trim, there is an aileron trim takeoff setting which must be set before takeoff, just as there are for takeoff pitch and takeoff trim settings.
Up to a certain bank angle, say 45 degrees or so, there may be enough rudder effectiveness to raise a low wing back to level.
I suppose the aircraft's specific speed and attitude would dictate which recovery method is best. Down low, like just after takeoff, it makes little sense to me to lift a wing with rudder when I can do it quickly safely with a roll input; but up at cruise altitude with plenty of sky underneath me, either recovery technique would probably suffice.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations
Hello again, Douglas
Well true, perhaps not “more sense”; I suppose what I really meant, was that rudder trim presumably wouldn’t be necessary on something like the C337, as an engine-out scenario isn’t going to produce the same sorts of asymmetry that one would see on a more typical twin (I assume, aileron trim would therefore be sufficient under most / all circumstances). I can’t say that I’m speaking from experience though, as I don’t recall ever having flown an aircraft with aileron trim haha.
Cheers again for your thoughts. All the best!
how do i put the real sounds of the atc that the real life pilots are talking about that does not sound like the atc greetings from mexico
Hi Carlos,
It’s actually just real world recordings that I’ve edited into the video. I got them from LiveATC.net. I believe there is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after.
I hope that helps a bit. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank you so much i love videos for recomendation airplanes 👍
You’re most welcome! Thank you very much, very glad to hear you’re enjoying the content : )
Sadly I dont have the outside elements and inside tablet
Oh really Isaac? That’s very strange indeed. In the C337 the tablet is located in a pocket on the right hand side of the aircraft, near the floor, just in front of the door (as opposed to on the pilots yoke, the usual location in Carenado aircraft). You don’t have a tablet in the aforementioned location?
All the best : )
9:06 how do you get these planes to be parked there ?
Hi Fabian,
I didn’t really do anything, they were just there haha. Make sure you have ground aircraft traffic turned on within your settings (I think it’s under “Traffic Settings”) - I have my slider set to 50%. Are you not seeing any ground traffic at any airports then?
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you sir ! It works !
Ah great! You’re most welcome : )
What version is the 337?
F? C?, B?
Going to order a checkmate checklist.
Thanks!
C337H Skymaster 2
@@MRJoos66
Thanks!
I can't find a checkmate for the "H" anywhere. "F" and under.
I have a private pilot license with an instrument rating and when flying (most of my hours are in a 182T G1000) but now that I am older I fly the sim 98% of the time. I have built my own with mostly virtual fly equipment (looks like a 182 G1000)...and just like the real plane..I use a checkmate.... have 1 for every plane I like. Drooling over the 337 (zero hours in a real one) but hate using the on screen checklists. Spoiled I guess ...
Thanks for offering up the info Martin : )
Hi Tim,
As Martin kindly mentions, it is the C337H. I had a quick look on Wikipedia; it looks like the H is essentially a modified F, so the checklists should be pretty similar. I’m not sure though whether the engines are the same model, which could obviously make a difference.
Cheers! : )
Thanks everyone for the help! I ordered the "F" Checkmate.
Really wish I could fly this on Xbox. As my PC is not good enough to run MSFS, and won't be for a while.
Hi Zachary,
I expect the C337 will make its way over to Xbox, given that all of Carenado’s other offerings have. I think quite a lot of devs are holding off on further console releases, until Microsoft gets some coding issues sorted.
Fingers crossed it doesn’t take too long for you! All the best : )
Just baught this real beauty just need to save up for an Honeycomb Alpha Yoke since the logitech joystick extreme 3D pro is absolute rubbish returned it 2 times and got me money back the second time.
Sorry to hear about the Joystick Mike, that's a real shame (and a pain I'm sure). I gather the Honeycomb is great, so should be worth saving up for.
I don't know whether you're still able to fly in the mean time then, but I do hope you enjoy the C337 as and when you can!
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Honeycomb yoke system is very good so far :)
Carenado planes are enjoyable but I’d pay more money for more fidelity.
Agree completely Fred. It would be nice to have more fidelity for sure, but Carenado do a good job at what they do (at least so far with their content in MSFS) and price their products fairly.
I guess other devs will take care of the higher fidelity products - the excellent Flysimware C414 for example.
Cheers and all the best! : )
I bought it 3 days ago and it causes an immediate CTD even in safe mode. I've checked the forums and spent hours on it. Of course therei is no way to get a refund. Has anyone else had this problem?
Very sorry to hear that Rob. I haven’t experienced any such issues myself. I’m sure you’ve already tried / considered it, but are you running the sim in DX11 (DX12 causes crashes with quite a few addons currently)? Otherwise, I’m afraid I’m not sure what could be causing the issue. . .
I do hope you manage to get things sorted. All the best!
I'm not interested in passenger models as much as I want some cargo boxes or something.
Yes, indeed Drew. The option to have either would be ideal. Sim Woks Studios have set the benchmark now, I do hope other devs decide to follow suit.
All the best! : )
Autopilot is under levers.
Thanks very much Bob! Yes, I was kicking myself on that one, when I watched the video back haha.
Cheers and all the best : )
where is the freaking altitude select on this thing!!
Hello SY,
I don’t believe that the Carenado C337 has one (you just set the autopilot to “ALT”, when you reach your desired level).
All the best!
Learned the hard way HAHHAHA thank you for your awesome videos! I come to you when I need to learn how to get a plane off the ground! Looking forward to your videos on FS2024:) @@IntotheBlueSimulations
They ever catch that serial killer that flew to all those small airports using a black Skymaster and exsanguinated all his victims? All the FAA and FBI had to go on was they used a black Skymaster with tail number N101BL on all scenes during murder but left right before cops ever came.
Haha, I’d never heard of The Night Flyer before ZDP. Before I did a little bit of googling, I thought perhaps the story you recounted was true (all very morbid I thought ha!) XD
Maybe I’ll have to give it a watch. . .
Cheers, all the best! : )
And again no brake check💤
Hi Flippe,
Correct again. Was that really your main take-away from the entire review though?
GLARING OMISSIONS really destroy my faith in and ability to become immersed in these simulations. If developers aren’t aware of glaringly obvious things like a non-functional autopilot button, one can only imagine how (un)real the simulation might be “under the hood.” So sad.
I know what you mean Aerostar; I don’t mind a few convoluted bugs, hidden away here and there (so long as they are fixed up quickly), it’s to be expected really. But to have blindingly obvious flaws with a product, it makes you wonder how on Earth such things get through testing (and I assume they don’t go unnoticed, which means the devs just say “screw it, we’ll release it anyway”.
The autopilot didn’t bother me nearly as much as the prop levers during the run-up. I can’t imagine that prop behaviour was accurate and that should have been immediately obvious to anyone who tested it (and not that hard to fix presumably).
I will say though, that Carenado do seem to be a lot more proactive with patches these days. I see they’ve already updated the C337, so hopefully that’s address most of the issues I found during the flight (haven’t had a chance to try the update yet).
Cheers!