I started to play Western forhand recently and really like this. Great drive volley, better handing heavy balls and big advantage for me because I am right handed and like to play my single handed backhand with western grip. So serve receiving on my bachand and forhand is pretty easy because I have no need to change my grip. If you will try return flat ball on eastern and western grip in static position you will find out that western grip provides more stability then eastern grip. So I am falling in love to western grip more and more. It is difficult lift up low balls, but still possible. Western grip requires early preparations and hit ball in front. Eastern grip is more forgiving. You can be late with eastern grip. Also great advantage of Western grip - it is more easy hit balls in corridor, much less balls go out. Summury - Eastern grip is good for beginners, Western grip is good for advanced players.
Well explained maybe that's one of the reason she struggles ( that arm too close to her body) when she play's again heavy hitter like rybakina and sabalenka
Great advices, as always. Thank you! In our club in discussions I hold the opinion also not to copy Rogers technique, not to copy any Pros technique. But to listen to the coaches advice. Coaches give instructions that fit to you. What do you think?
@@stibekey yes I agree that players should generally find their own style of technique that fits them. However, the pros show the key fundamentals of the strokes very well so it’s not a bad idea to observe the pros technique e.g. the Federer forehand or the Djokovic backhand, Sampras serve, as they are masters of those strokes!
Extreme western is rarely a good choice. Semi will work, and western needs a lot of work to adapt for a club player. But extreme western... Jeez. Ugly to watch, makes slice shots much more difficult to return, lack of control of depth, pace and accuracy, harder to take balls on the rise... Any of those reasons could answer why Swiatek is not that good on grass and faster surfaces. And much more physicality is needed, more energy in general so, it may make long matches much harder to resist. So guys, don't do that at home 🙂
Hi ! Iga Swiatek is unmistakable. Her style of playing tennis is Unique as herself. There can’t be 2 World Number 1 but Just 1 Iga Swiatek ❤ Thanks for your advice 😂. Have a lovely day Miss.
Quite right I couldn’t agree more. It’s not a technique that should be considered as anything to be copied. However, this racquet angle on western forehand is not quite right, as you have your wrist positioned with a different angle too!? Don’t you agree?!
I've played with the full western for 4 years and gave up on it to switch back to the semi-Western. I was late when the ball was tight to the body and also, no matter what I did, I could not solve the problem with shoelace height balls. Even when I could hit it over the net, I had no control over it. I have always said that Iga can't win Wimby because of her grip. One youtube coach argued that Novak wins with an extreme semi-Western so Iga should be able too but that little difference in angle matters a lot on low balls. Iga looked terrible at Wimby this year playing low balls and that distress broke her forehand down entirely. She also lost the Olympics, on the same clay courts she won the French. Did she lose her confidence at Wimby? On the ATP, I know of very few players that use the full Western who have obtained a high level of success, the most successful is probably Wawrinka but certainly none of these players have won Wimbledon.
I love this channel and its simplicity and the wonderful presentation but im not sure i agree with this especially the idea that most rec players would find this a bad idea. Imo Igas technique is exactly the same principle as federer in terms of physics and there is a bit of confusion about set ups and milestone positions to hit regarding coaching tennis in general imo. You have a lovely fluid motion but changing the grip has natural ramifications based on the physics of creating an effortless swing path arc and racket head speed. A tucked in elbow is simply a different rotational fulcrum point and i would advise everyone to try the range of grips and swing paths to understand how they are all fundamentally the same principle when done well. Try to move from a federer eastern and full in to out straight arm at contact swing and then to Igas highly compressed swing. Relaxation and being loose is the key and understanding the racket path. You see the connections immediately and this opens up the creativity of playing different shots and having fun. Igas swing is super easy to try and is fun. I regularly switch between techniques just like trying different rackets and styles. Wta to atp and back again. Just look at the pro game and see the variety. If you can stay relaxed almost any swing path and grip is pretty easy and i wouldn’t say any particular technique is any more challenging or correct as any other. Its all physics.
I started to play Western forhand recently and really like this. Great drive volley, better handing heavy balls and big advantage for me because I am right handed and like to play my single handed backhand with western grip. So serve receiving on my bachand and forhand is pretty easy because I have no need to change my grip. If you will try return flat ball on eastern and western grip in static position you will find out that western grip provides more stability then eastern grip. So I am falling in love to western grip more and more. It is difficult lift up low balls, but still possible. Western grip requires early preparations and hit ball in front. Eastern grip is more forgiving. You can be late with eastern grip. Also great advantage of Western grip - it is more easy hit balls in corridor, much less balls go out. Summury - Eastern grip is good for beginners, Western grip is good for advanced players.
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Well explained maybe that's one of the reason she struggles ( that arm too close to her body) when she play's again heavy hitter like rybakina and sabalenka
@@Christian-lf4yy yes, heavy balls into that forehand side cause her to struggle and hit late often
@@gemtennis. Really love your analyst not to mention your accent be watching and waiting for your videos
@@Christian-lf4yy haha thank you! :)
Great advices, as always. Thank you! In our club in discussions I hold the opinion also not to copy Rogers technique, not to copy any Pros technique. But to listen to the coaches advice. Coaches give instructions that fit to you. What do you think?
@@stibekey yes I agree that players should generally find their own style of technique that fits them. However, the pros show the key fundamentals of the strokes very well so it’s not a bad idea to observe the pros technique e.g. the Federer forehand or the Djokovic backhand, Sampras serve, as they are masters of those strokes!
@@gemtennis. Thanks for weighing both aspects. I very much agree. and above all, I look forward to further videos on your channel🎾👍🏼
Great explanation. I agree
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Extreme western is rarely a good choice. Semi will work, and western needs a lot of work to adapt for a club player. But extreme western... Jeez. Ugly to watch, makes slice shots much more difficult to return, lack of control of depth, pace and accuracy, harder to take balls on the rise... Any of those reasons could answer why Swiatek is not that good on grass and faster surfaces. And much more physicality is needed, more energy in general so, it may make long matches much harder to resist. So guys, don't do that at home 🙂
Great video! Really enjoyed learning thanks 🙏🏼
@@TheTennisInsider thank you 😄
Hi ! Iga Swiatek is unmistakable. Her style of playing tennis is Unique as herself. There can’t be 2 World Number 1 but Just 1 Iga Swiatek ❤
Thanks for your advice 😂. Have a lovely day Miss.
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i agree. It is a grip good for high bounce rallies & that is what the . We get a lot of flat or low balls.
You sound like the female version of Coach Simon from Top Tennis Training, the mannerism and the way you speak
@@logicrule I’ll take that as a compliment!
:o she is a clone.
Exactly, well explained!
@@jurijvengust9074 thanks!
Quite right I couldn’t agree more. It’s not a technique that should be considered as anything to be copied. However, this racquet angle on western forehand is not quite right, as you have your wrist positioned with a different angle too!? Don’t you agree?!
I've played with the full western for 4 years and gave up on it to switch back to the semi-Western. I was late when the ball was tight to the body and also, no matter what I did, I could not solve the problem with shoelace height balls. Even when I could hit it over the net, I had no control over it. I have always said that Iga can't win Wimby because of her grip. One youtube coach argued that Novak wins with an extreme semi-Western so Iga should be able too but that little difference in angle matters a lot on low balls. Iga looked terrible at Wimby this year playing low balls and that distress broke her forehand down entirely. She also lost the Olympics, on the same clay courts she won the French. Did she lose her confidence at Wimby? On the ATP, I know of very few players that use the full Western who have obtained a high level of success, the most successful is probably Wawrinka but certainly none of these players have won Wimbledon.
I love this channel and its simplicity and the wonderful presentation but im not sure i agree with this especially the idea that most rec players would find this a bad idea. Imo Igas technique is exactly the same principle as federer in terms of physics and there is a bit of confusion about set ups and milestone positions to hit regarding coaching tennis in general imo. You have a lovely fluid motion but changing the grip has natural ramifications based on the physics of creating an effortless swing path arc and racket head speed. A tucked in elbow is simply a different rotational fulcrum point and i would advise everyone to try the range of grips and swing paths to understand how they are all fundamentally the same principle when done well. Try to move from a federer eastern and full in to out straight arm at contact swing and then to Igas highly compressed swing. Relaxation and being loose is the key and understanding the racket path. You see the connections immediately and this opens up the creativity of playing different shots and having fun. Igas swing is super easy to try and is fun. I regularly switch between techniques just like trying different rackets and styles. Wta to atp and back again. Just look at the pro game and see the variety. If you can stay relaxed almost any swing path and grip is pretty easy and i wouldn’t say any particular technique is any more challenging or correct as any other. Its all physics.
Hello beautiful, I use semi western . If I use western , ball goes straight ground
Because it's ugly