I had the wonderful opportunity of studying Hebrew for 17 years in Dieppe France! It totally enriched my understanding of Catholicism which I converted to 20 years ago Thank you both
That is , until you read the Talmud, and then everything that you have seen becomes clear. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: “God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations.”...Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel....Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: “All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.”...Baba Necia 114, 6: “The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.”
@@promark5317 Yeah, it's even worse, they just attributed it all to themselves for no reason, just cause they felt like it. Jokes aside, lot's of european nations claimed to replace Israel, and many "christian" groups that mix faith with national identity claim to be the new Israel, even to this day. I'm not saying anything crazy or conspiratorial, but europeans loved to blame the jews of things they never put to practice yet they themselves did without any book telling them to do so. This is not about saying europeans are the devil or anything like that. It's about these types like Valkonnen to take the beam out of his own eye before trying to pick the sliver out of the ACTUAL chosen, miraculously created, people of God.
Catholics are a continuty of ancient Israelites - temple and all. Temple being catholic churches all over the world, sacrifice taking place in all of them, rituals, etc. based on predecessor rituals of old. All else is some form of modification or rejection.
Maybe you can help me. From the Bible I have only found two tangible events that must happen before the end of this age and the victory of the next. Those two things are the completion of the number of Jewish believers, and the fulfillment of the number of Martyrs. Any thoughts? Thanks.
@@KirkMiller-u9d What you say is true. And there's also the return of the Jews to Israel which happened in 1948, building of the 3rd temple which has yet to happen for example. There are a few more which Messianic Jews often mention. A quick yt search will bring those vids up I think. Great question! Merry Christmas 🕯️🎄🕯️
Thank you Ben and Bishop Barron, I had a profound conversion experience at a Catholic healing of the family tree Mass and I love watching these videos I learn alot from them .
As a former Anglican and new Catholic, I love this! Anglican Bishop and theologian N.T. Wright echoes what Bishop Barron is saying here. I have been interested in Jewish Catholic convert Roy Shoeman. His testimony is astounding, and he has written a book called, "Salvation Is From The Jews". He calls Catholicism "Post-Messianic Judaism".
This was a wonderful discussion! I converted from Protestantism a few years ago, and was astonished at how little I understood the parallels between the old and New Testaments, and how Jesus truly fulfilled all of the prophecies. I was Presbyterian most of my life, and considered myself a devout Christian, but in actuality I really did not understand hardly any of my faith. Now, I feel so much more grounded in truth, and my Catholic faith answers so many questions I had in such a clear way. I hope everyone is having a wonderful Christmas season!❤️
Dear Bishop Barron, please urge people to pray not only for our Jewish brothers and sisters who deserve peace, but also for our Palestinian Christian and Muslim brothers and sisters who are enduring unimaginable, interminable suffering. A part of our Body of Christ is aching. May God bless you always.
The Muslims must fight against their tyrannical leaders. It doesn't look good for them when they celebrate a massacre as they did on 7/10. Don't come with your naive concept of peace.
Thank you, this is a rare type of comment unfortunately, I'm a middle eastern christian and my heart is broken over all what's happening and I just can't believe how the western Christians are so silent.
I absolutely do know how grounded our Christianity ✝️ is grounded in our first chosen people and I love this Ecumenical conversation. Well done Ben and Robert we badly need more of these talks 🙏
Wonderful conversation! Thank you so much for this segment! "In His birth is our significances, In His life is our example, In His death is our redemption, In His resurrection is our Hope"
God bless and keep you, Bishop Barron. God has blessed us, members of the Mystical Body of Christ, with you as bishop who works to bring Truth to us, referencing biblical and historical data. Ben, greeting Bishop Barron a Merry Christmas, class act! God convict your heart and draw you to Him. 🙏
There was a time when I chose to completely study Jesus. No regrets I come back to Jesus everytime. Makes a whole lot of sense to me. Complete love continuously. ❤❤❤😊
Wow, yes!! Thank you, Bishop Barron. I am a cradle Catholic, thanks be to God for my parents, and I have, since I was a very young woman, understood that to find a Jewish teacher to teach me the Old Testament was so important to understand our Jesus ❤️🌟🕊🔥🕯
Reminds me a bit of this quote: "When Catholicism goes bad it becomes the world-old, world-wide religio of amulets and holy places and priestcraft. Protestantism, in its corresponding decay, becomes a vague mist of ethical platitudes. Catholicism is accused of being too much like all the other religions; Protestantism of being insufficiently like a religion at all." -C.S.Lewis, from "The Allegory of Love"
This is why I fell in love learning the Jewish heritage of my faith. Because until recently, I had never been reminded that Jesus, the Apostles were Jewish and their Jewish foundations would have remained Jewish in light of the Teaching of Christ.
It's all good until you forget that Jesus also taught to love your neighbour and the story of the good samaritan. This and many other tales should remind us that Jesus was not just some Jew but someone who built a truly universalist ethic and thus church. No people is more important than any other! Christian zionists forget that
Ben Shapiro is going to end up getting converted to Christianity if he keeps interviewing the likes of Bishop Barron and John MacArthur. Both men have done a phenomenal job of preaching the gospel to Ben. Thank you for your steadfast defense of the Gospel Bishop!
I think ben ego cannot make him truly understand Jesus as we know him in Christianity, he would need to let go of his identity rooted in Judaism which is probably more than 75+++% of him
@Buttercupz2001 Respecting someone's traditions does not exclude hoping someone will adopt your own traditions. From my perspective, Jews still have freedom to practice their religion.
@@willolol3353I don’t think he needs to become less Jewish to be Christian, he just needs it to click that the new covenant is concealed within the covenant he already accepts
I don't think so. Not in this life. He's part of the eternal Mt Sinai covenant & will accept Yeshua as he passes... because he knows God, just not the fullness of His revelation in Christ. He'll recognize Jesus in the end.
Onkelos then went and raised Jesus the Nazarene from the grave through necromancy. Onkelos said to him: What is the punishment of that man, a euphemism for Jesus himself, in the next world? Jesus said to him: He is punished with boiling excrement. As Balaam, who was a prophet, wished Israel harm, whereas Jesus the Nazarene, who was a Jewish sinner, sought their well-being. Gitten 57A Talmud
Thank you again and again, Bishop. Your gift and endurance for educating is monumental. Everything you say is much appreciated. I knew this well already as a cradle Catholic but value the good work that Ben is doing to help stop the horrific antisemitism that is embedded in the WOKISM that plagues young people driving them so dangerously astray. It is doing everyone and everything grievous harm. As a prof of eduction, I am in the trenches. The things I hear at the university from professors and students alike never cease to amaze me. Keep up the great work on behalf of Truth, Goodness, and Love. Praise be to God.
@@karlheven8328 no, unfortunately they are not only ignorant but they are confident about it as well. as a middle eastern christian I'm deeply disappointed in western Christians who support terrorist zionism
For me, as a Christian (and an ordained minister), loving God and Jesus, means loving and standing with all my Jewish friends and Israel, especially since October 7 and the ongoing war against all terrorists.
Why would you comment as if Bishop Barron didn't know that, when it is exactly what he was trying to explain in the video to Shapiro? You should have known that already since you have seen almost all his videos. no? I'll try to pose a different question to you: By the way, haven't you reacted to the fact that this video was streamed as premiere over one hour ago now, while there are comments here from 1 day ago? How would you explain that?
Well, this girl is on fire ! Thank you both , these discussions are incredible , helpful, and beyond exciting. I can’t get enough of such dialogue. Peace , light , and tons of love .
Much love and respect to Bishop Barron and Ben Shapiro. Growing up in the Catholic faith the way I did, I was taught to understand that we must have the utmost respect for the Jewish people because Jesus was a Jew, and we believe he is the Messiah foretold by our Jewish spiritual ancestors. Bearing that in mind, in order for me to understand and love Jesus, I had to learn about the Jews, understand, and love the Jewish people, even if they don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah. They are our spiritual brothers and sisters with the God of Abraham as our Father. I feel very blessed to be part of that family.
2 Corinthians 1 20For no matter how many promises God has made, they are “Yes” in Christ. And so through him the “Amen” is spoken by us to the glory of God.
So inspiring and uplifting - you have made Christmas more meaningful for me. From henceforth I shall think of myself as a spiritual Semite. To be a Christian we must stand with our Jewish brothers and sisters
To be a true Christian one must stand with all brothers and sisters from all faiths, just like the good Samaritan. If you see a Muslim in great trouble and nothing moves inside of you or you manage to blame him for his own trouble, you can't claim to be a true christian. when you see Christians, people who share the same faith with you being killed inside a church and manage to support their murderers, you definitely can't claim to be a true christian. as a middle eastern christian I add my voice to the pastor of the Lutheran church of Bethlehem we are not to be lectured on human rights, freedom or morality from western people never again.
@@paulinahellen2477when you side yoirself with hamas and jihadist ideologies you cant claim to be a christian. if you were true faithful to the book you would know who the land belonged to decread by god
@@polpol2739 No I don't side with Hamas, I'm a middle eastern christian and everyone knows how we suffered from Islamic extremism and terrorism while the western world including Christians where silent, you don't expect me to side with terrorism and that's why I can't side with Israel too because they are worse than Hamas, I'm faithful to Christ only, and that's why I say the truth that this land was inhabited by Palestinians for thousands of years and if Israelis have any claims to the land still this doesn't justify their horrible crimes against our dear Palestinian brothers and sisters
@@polpol2739 and by the way if you are racist enough that you're unable to show sympathy unless someone like you is hurt I'll remind you that among Palestinians many Christians were murdered by Israel. I don't know, I feel I'm wasting my time here, you're all stone hearted and apathetic, I don't really expect anything humane from you, I'm only shocked and disappointed that you still call yourselves Christians.
@@paulinahellen2477 you dont side with christ. because you just stated the false claims that "palestinains inhabited the land for thousands of years". show me that in the bible - chapter and verse
This is so important for all Christian’s to understand. The level of antisemitism we are seeing after the attack of Hamas on Israel is so disappointing and disturbing. Thank you Bishop Barron for speaking out.
I recently heard from a Catholic priest friend of mine whose father passed away that when he was organising the funeral mass , his sister refused to accept the hymn ‘O come o come Emmanuel’ because of the lines that mention Israel. Wokeism in Christianity is no longer at the gates but sadly within its walls. The heart of Catholic faith is the Eucharist, which does not make an iota of sense without Israel
I think this goes both ways; it is fundamental to understand Jesus in light of the Old Testament Judaism. At the same time Judaism itself is devoid of its purpose without looking at the figure of Jesus of Nazareth, who is in every way further above the prophets of the Old Testament, Jesus whose Jewish roots are being discussed here because He was a Jew and did deeds beyond the prophets of Judaism of old. If John the Baptist was the greatest man and Jesus was already above him, what more do you expect in Judaism if Jesus is to be not anything of importance? You would only stay forever thinking that human religious works would somehow bring down heaven, compelling it, from its place, and to wait for a national messiah that "saves" Israel from its political and sovereign-state enemies.
I don't know what Ben's own sense of the value of Christianity is for him, but he at least will listen seriously to what Christians have to say, and not immediately swat it away.
I feel bad for those who won’t watch simply because someone they don’t like is in it. I thought it was a good conversation and I learned from it (such as Marcionism in the 2nd century and how it’s still persisting and how Old Testament is connected to the nativity story).
In my years in New York working with the JCC, almost every Jew I knew loved Christmas and the us observants during the Hanukkah/Christmas season. My ex demanded to go see the the Tree and the Toyshops back in '12.
Bishop Barron and all clergy ought to interact with EMJ's work. A faithful Catholic who has really done the legwork on this topic (the JQ) and dedicated his life to it (being canceled for it). Was St. Paul (a jew) an antisemite when he said (1 Thess 2:14-16)? Was St. John the beloved Apostle (also a jew) an antisemite (Rev 2:9, 3:9)? What is an antisemite? When did this term come into existence? Who gets to decide who is an antisemite? Were the Apostles antisemites when they gathered in the cenacle (John 20:19)? Ought not Nostra Aetate be read in light of the Church's tradition? Was St. John Chrysostom Church Doctor and author of Adversus Judaeos, an antisemite?
We always watch Die Hard! But kidding aside, when Jesus was missing from the caravan, and was found by Joseph and Mary in the Jerusalem temple, his comment was, “Did you not know that I must be about my Father’s business?” Another translation reads, “Did you not know that I must be in the house of my Father?” Later, “Zeal for Your house consumes me.” Catholicism can never be separated fro the “Apple” of His eye. Otherwise, it becomes Protestantism in so many ways.
I TRUST YOU LORD. Please give me strength to get through this Christmas. I’m holding on and keeping faith. I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to provide for my kids and I constantly struggle to buy groceries. My husband is with you God. At times I feel so alone especially as a single mom. Since suffering a heart attack two years ago and my on going battle with lupus I’m overwhelmed. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m now homeschooling them so my hours to work are limited. Thankfully I have you Lord Jesus. Please continue to give me strength. ❤
@@mrjohn125 Actually incorrect. While it is acknowledged that Abraham is our father in faith, it was Jacob, who was named Israel, the father of the 12 tribes who became the nation oIsreal under King David. Abraham fathered a son from Hagar (the maid-servant) who was named Ishmael, whereas God blessed Sarah, Abrahams wife who was barren, at the age of 90 to give birth to Issac; and through Issac would the descendants of Abraham be known. Pax Christi
I love Jewish people. I'm Ashkenazi by blood (not by much) on my dads side though he's not practicing cause he's catholic. no one that's currently alive in my family is practicing Judaism. But my point in bring that up is to hate Jewish people is to hate my own blood. So I'm definitely against any antisemitism and my heart breaks seeing it so prominent right now. But at the same time I know people who are affected on both sides of this conflict going between Israel and Gaza. And there's been a uptick in anti-Muslim hate too. Both sides are suffering because of a terrorist group. And that's not even going into how many people are dying in the conflict. There's a lot of people and families there who don't want war. And I feel like their cries for help are getting swept under the rug while our media is pushing propaganda to make all of us hate each other. I don't have an answer for this and I love everyone. But I really wish someone would do something to try and talk peace.
With all due respect for your good attitude this conflict did not start on Oct. 7th but in 1948 with the ethnic cleansings. Until the Israelis come to the table and are ready to acknowledge the Palestinians as human beings there wont be peace unfortunately. No people and no blood is more valuable than another! We have to speak up against hate and nationalism wherever it comes from then this conflict will be solvable. However we don't seem to hold Israel accountable to adhere to western values at all
Thank you for this: It's so important to revisit the concept of the Messiah every Advent season for both Jew and Gentile. For so many people the concept has lost its relevancy. For instance what does the concept of the Messiah mean to a Jewish believer living in the United States today? In theory the believer doesn't really need a political messiah any more. The U.S. is better armed than any of its rivaling nations -- unlike olden-day Israel which was for two thousand years essentially controlled at various times by Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persian, Greece and Rome. Where does that leave the Christian?
As it is written: "For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever." Amen!
@@therealong yes, as I said, I wasn’t sure if you were asking Christine if they mistakenly thought the bishop is a Rabbi or if you were wondering yourself if he is a Rabbi, so I hope I wasn’t offensive, Merry Christmas
@@reneerochon2437 I see. The problem is with the tagging, someone gets tagged (as you were in my reply), others don't. I usually "copy&paste" the person's name, as to indicate whom I'm answering to, but I didn't here, because I was the only one that replied. Why didn't my name appear in your comment? Which "Reply" did you click?
We must first define "Judaise". Because the "Judaism" as seen today is not the Judaism Moses left. It's no more the "Sinai Judaism" as taught by Moses, but the "rabbinic Judaism" as taught by the rabbis through the Talmud. 1:00 "when we de-Judaise Christianity, it turns into a kind of gnostic philosophy". That's correct. But let's not forget, that "when we in-Judaise Christianity, it turns into a kind of rabbinic philosophy".
I believe its a good study to highlight tĥe total study of the historical Jewish Jesus. Unfortunately, we don't all know. God bless. The scandal of the cross as we know, appears, without the full story.
"DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity." -Human Genome Project However, the ethos of the past, embodied by the Pharisees who opposed and had Christ killed, persists in the form of Rabbinic Judaism and, directly or indirectly, much of Jewish culture today.
I was Christian at the age of 24 when I start reading New Testament and comparing Old Testament Holy Spirit helped me understand the difference I left christian celebrations of Pegan holidays free masonry rituals i started studying history of religion Holy Spirit reveals many things .. I start asking God where he wants me go he showed me Jewish people in my dream morning of Rosh Hashanah Holy Spirit said go to Synagogue then I start practicing Judaism and few years later converted, it’s not like Christianity or Islam u can instantly become a Christian. now I felt more spiritual difference.. that’s why Islamic Prophet and Christian prophet birth story is very similar.. Muslim and Christian claim is wrong if they worship same God why they use different God name and different rituals christianity is cult there’s so many things I learned
I had the wonderful opportunity of studying Hebrew for 17 years in Dieppe France! It totally enriched my understanding of Catholicism which I converted to 20 years ago Thank you both
That is , until you read the Talmud, and then everything that you have seen becomes clear. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: “God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations.”...Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel....Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: “All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.”...Baba Necia 114, 6: “The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.”
@@Valkonnen sounds just like any european nation until 1960 lmao
@@glasseyes5844I didn't know Europeans had a holy book giving them power and jurisdiction over anyone that doesn't adhere to its rules.
@@promark5317 Yeah, it's even worse, they just attributed it all to themselves for no reason, just cause they felt like it. Jokes aside, lot's of european nations claimed to replace Israel, and many "christian" groups that mix faith with national identity claim to be the new Israel, even to this day. I'm not saying anything crazy or conspiratorial, but europeans loved to blame the jews of things they never put to practice yet they themselves did without any book telling them to do so.
This is not about saying europeans are the devil or anything like that. It's about these types like Valkonnen to take the beam out of his own eye before trying to pick the sliver out of the ACTUAL chosen, miraculously created, people of God.
I admire Ben so much because he gives Catholics a big platform, it says so much about his character ❤
Amen❤
Bless you you are really naive. It's all about pushing zion ism
Ben has been jumping the gun about Catholicism lately. At least he is now trying to interview Catholics before talking nonsense.
I'm Catholic and I like Ben too. 😊
Catholics are a continuty of ancient Israelites - temple and all. Temple being catholic churches all over the world, sacrifice taking place in all of them, rituals, etc. based on predecessor rituals of old. All else is some form of modification or rejection.
As a Jewish Catholic I ofcourse agree, as did Edith Stein, a martyred saint. Our numbers are growing. Happy Christmas all!
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Maybe you can help me. From the Bible I have only found two tangible events that must happen before the end of this age and the victory of the next. Those two things are the completion of the number of Jewish believers, and the fulfillment of the number of Martyrs. Any thoughts? Thanks.
There is no such thing as a Jewish Catholic and there are no other descriptive qualifiers attached to Catholic.
@@KirkMiller-u9d What you say is true. And there's also the return of the Jews to Israel which happened in 1948, building of the 3rd temple which has yet to happen for example. There are a few more which Messianic Jews often mention. A quick yt search will bring those vids up I think. Great question! Merry Christmas 🕯️🎄🕯️
Jewish convert to Catholicism right here as well. Howdy! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!@@NerdyScubaDiver
Thank you Ben and Bishop Barron, I had a profound conversion experience at a Catholic healing of the family tree Mass and I love watching these videos I learn alot from them .
Two great minds, what a blessing to hear you both!
Bishop Barron’s enthusiasm when he describes the church’s history is wonderful to see.
Wonderful conversation between two of my favorite people ❤
As a former Anglican and new Catholic, I love this! Anglican Bishop and theologian N.T. Wright echoes what Bishop Barron is saying here. I have been interested in Jewish Catholic convert Roy Shoeman. His testimony is astounding, and he has written a book called, "Salvation Is From The Jews". He calls Catholicism "Post-Messianic Judaism".
Me too, former Anglican converted to Catholicism, thanks for the reference....I will check it out!
@@minimaxmiaandme.4971 There’s a joke in there somewhere, but god bless regardless.
This was a wonderful discussion! I converted from Protestantism a few years ago, and was astonished at how little I understood the parallels between the old and New Testaments, and how Jesus truly fulfilled all of the prophecies. I was Presbyterian most of my life, and considered myself a devout Christian, but in actuality I really did not understand hardly any of my faith. Now, I feel so much more grounded in truth, and my Catholic faith answers so many questions I had in such a clear way. I hope everyone is having a wonderful Christmas season!❤️
Just wonderful, so pleased to have Jesus emphasised to all as a Jew. Happy Christmas & lots to learn & speak up on! ❤️🙏☘️😊🫖
Dear Bishop Barron, please urge people to pray not only for our Jewish brothers and sisters who deserve peace, but also for our Palestinian Christian and Muslim brothers and sisters who are enduring unimaginable, interminable suffering. A part of our Body of Christ is aching. May God bless you always.
The Muslims must fight against their tyrannical leaders. It doesn't look good for them when they celebrate a massacre as they did on 7/10. Don't come with your naive concept of peace.
Amen❤.
May the birth of our Lord bring peace and joy to every being on this earth and may the universe rejoice 🙏
Thank you, this is a rare type of comment unfortunately, I'm a middle eastern christian and my heart is broken over all what's happening and I just can't believe how the western Christians are so silent.
they are not silent, they just put the blame into the propriate place which is hamas @@paulinahellen2477
Has Bishop Barron been hearing the hateful rhetoric of Ben Shapiro over the years, especially these past 3 months? I hope not.
I absolutely do know how grounded our Christianity ✝️ is grounded in our first chosen people and I love this Ecumenical conversation.
Well done Ben and Robert we badly need more of these talks 🙏
Love this! My awesome former professor, Bishop Barron, in dialogue with the awesome Ben Shapiro! Love this, thank you!
Very happy to see Bishop Barron deftly showing Ben how Jesus is the fulfillment of Jewish prophecies. Praying for his eventual conversion. 🙏❤️🔥
Please not. He is a radical zionist are you crazy?
That’s kind of presumptuous, imo. God has a purpose for each of us. You “may” not know what that is for Ben Shapiro.
@@njejlester1603I know that Ben has said that Jesus was nothing more than a revolutionist that got what he deserved
Wonderful conversation! Thank you so much for this segment!
"In His birth is our significances, In His life is our example, In His death is our redemption, In His resurrection is our Hope"
God bless and keep you, Bishop Barron. God has blessed us, members of the Mystical Body of Christ, with you as bishop who works to bring Truth to us, referencing biblical and historical data.
Ben, greeting Bishop Barron a Merry Christmas, class act! God convict your heart and draw you to Him. 🙏
There was a time when I chose to completely study Jesus. No regrets I come back to Jesus everytime. Makes a whole lot of sense to me. Complete love continuously. ❤❤❤😊
Wow, yes!! Thank you, Bishop Barron. I am a cradle Catholic, thanks be to God for my parents, and I have, since I was a very young woman, understood that to find a Jewish teacher to teach me the Old Testament was so important to understand our Jesus
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Thank you Both very much. Excellent reminder for this season.
I'm a Catholic and I have so much respect for Ben Shapiro.
Reminds me a bit of this quote:
"When Catholicism goes bad it becomes the world-old, world-wide religio of amulets and holy places and priestcraft. Protestantism, in its corresponding decay, becomes a vague mist of ethical platitudes. Catholicism is accused of being too much like all the other religions; Protestantism of being insufficiently like a religion at all."
-C.S.Lewis, from "The Allegory of Love"
Thank you, Ben, for being a man of peace and understanding 🙏🏻
This is why I fell in love learning the Jewish heritage of my faith. Because until recently, I had never been reminded that Jesus, the Apostles were Jewish and their Jewish foundations would have remained Jewish in light of the Teaching of Christ.
It's all good until you forget that Jesus also taught to love your neighbour and the story of the good samaritan.
This and many other tales should remind us that Jesus was not just some Jew but someone who built a truly universalist ethic and thus church.
No people is more important than any other! Christian zionists forget that
Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah. Adonai has a love for the House Isra’el unlike any other.
Read gitten 57A of the Talmud
I have no words how impressed I am by Benjamin. Conversations like this can only happen in America.
Ben Shapiro is going to end up getting converted to Christianity if he keeps interviewing the likes of Bishop Barron and John MacArthur. Both men have done a phenomenal job of preaching the gospel to Ben. Thank you for your steadfast defense of the Gospel Bishop!
I think ben ego cannot make him truly understand Jesus as we know him in Christianity, he would need to let go of his identity rooted in Judaism which is probably more than 75+++% of him
@@willolol3353You never know...
@Buttercupz2001 Respecting someone's traditions does not exclude hoping someone will adopt your own traditions.
From my perspective, Jews still have freedom to practice their religion.
@@willolol3353I don’t think he needs to become less Jewish to be Christian, he just needs it to click that the new covenant is concealed within the covenant he already accepts
I don't think so. Not in this life. He's part of the eternal Mt Sinai covenant & will accept Yeshua as he passes... because he knows God, just not the fullness of His revelation in Christ. He'll recognize Jesus in the end.
God bless all our Jewish brothers and sisters. I pray for peace in the Holy Land. 🙏
Onkelos then went and raised Jesus the Nazarene from the grave through necromancy.
Onkelos said to him: What is the punishment of that man, a euphemism for Jesus himself, in the next world? Jesus said to him: He is punished with boiling excrement.
As Balaam, who was a prophet, wished Israel harm, whereas Jesus the Nazarene, who was a Jewish sinner, sought their well-being.
Gitten 57A Talmud
These meetings are too short. We need more of these, for much longer durations. Bishop Barron is amazing as always!
Wonderful. Keep up the dialog and bringing together the only 2 true religions of history. God Bless.
Thank you Bishop and Ben. God Bless You and keep You. 🙏🙏🙏
Kudos to Ben for inviting him! I eagerly await his conversion!
I appreciate "The Chosen" series for depicting the Jewish culture and lifestyle. It gave me a lot to think about, which I had not before.
God bless you both. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Merry Christmas to you both.
Thank you Bishop Barron 🙏🏽🎄🎅🏼
This is a fantastic discussion!
Thank you again and again, Bishop. Your gift and endurance for educating is monumental. Everything you say is much appreciated. I knew this well already as a cradle Catholic but value the good work that Ben is doing to help stop the horrific antisemitism that is embedded in the WOKISM that plagues young people driving them so dangerously astray. It is doing everyone and everything grievous harm. As a prof of eduction, I am in the trenches. The things I hear at the university from professors and students alike never cease to amaze me. Keep up the great work on behalf of Truth, Goodness, and Love. Praise be to God.
Would you say the same if you were a Palestinian? Please educate yourself on the history of zionism
@@karlheven8328 no, unfortunately they are not only ignorant but they are confident about it as well. as a middle eastern christian I'm deeply disappointed in western Christians who support terrorist zionism
So valuable and enlightening!
For me, as a Christian (and an ordained minister), loving God and Jesus, means loving and standing with all my Jewish friends and Israel, especially since October 7 and the ongoing war against all terrorists.
*Bishop Robert Barron:* Jesus is the "yes" to all the promises made to Israel and only against that background will you understand him.
Why would you comment as if Bishop Barron didn't know that, when it is exactly what he was trying to explain in the video to Shapiro? You should have known that already since you have seen almost all his videos. no?
I'll try to pose a different question to you: By the way, haven't you reacted to the fact that this video was streamed as premiere over one hour ago now, while there are comments here from 1 day ago? How would you explain that?
I think the comment is quoting BB
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Yes, of course ✨🙏
You guys both rock! I’m grateful to be able to watch and listen to the both of you! God Bless!
I can’t believe two of my favorites on one show
Love you both thank you
Great talk!!!
Thank you, favorites both. God bless you
Well, this girl is on fire ! Thank you both , these discussions are incredible , helpful, and beyond exciting. I can’t get enough of such dialogue. Peace , light , and tons of love .
Great interview, Seeing Ben Shapiro saying “Merry Christmas “ was special…
Great interview with Bishop Barron!
THANK YOU BISHOP BARRON🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great job bishop …..
Much love and respect to Bishop Barron and Ben Shapiro. Growing up in the Catholic faith the way I did, I was taught to understand that we must have the utmost respect for the Jewish people because Jesus was a Jew, and we believe he is the Messiah foretold by our Jewish spiritual ancestors. Bearing that in mind, in order for me to understand and love Jesus, I had to learn about the Jews, understand, and love the Jewish people, even if they don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah. They are our spiritual brothers and sisters with the God of Abraham as our Father.
I feel very blessed to be part of that family.
Excellent. Just wish Ben would crack a smile more often when he talks to the Bishop.
Ben's video is pre recorded, and the bishop was reacring to the recording
So much intelligence in 9 minutes, I love BB and respect his great mind.....Ben Shapiro, I am just getting to know him. Excellent discussion!
Merry Christmas Ben and Bishop Barron. God bless🙏
Amen. May God Bless All of our Holy Priests.
Thank you Bishop Barron 🙏
2 Corinthians 1
20For no matter how many promises God has made, they are “Yes” in Christ. And so through him the “Amen” is spoken by us to the glory of God.
Ben, thank you for giving your audience knowledge of the crucial importance and inextricable links of Judaism in the OT to Christianity.
Great interview 👍
Gracias Ben y gracias Obispo Barron. ❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏💯
Who was Jesus then?
"Just a guy who died for his trouble."
-Ben Shapiro
Yep.
So inspiring and uplifting - you have made Christmas more meaningful for me. From henceforth I shall think of myself as a spiritual Semite. To be a Christian we must stand with our Jewish brothers and sisters
To be a true Christian one must stand with all brothers and sisters from all faiths, just like the good Samaritan. If you see a Muslim in great trouble and nothing moves inside of you or you manage to blame him for his own trouble, you can't claim to be a true christian. when you see Christians, people who share the same faith with you being killed inside a church and manage to support their murderers, you definitely can't claim to be a true christian. as a middle eastern christian I add my voice to the pastor of the Lutheran church of Bethlehem we are not to be lectured on human rights, freedom or morality
from western people never again.
@@paulinahellen2477when you side yoirself with hamas and jihadist ideologies you cant claim to be a christian. if you were true faithful to the book you would know who the land belonged to decread by god
@@polpol2739 No I don't side with Hamas, I'm a middle eastern christian and everyone knows how we suffered from Islamic extremism and terrorism while the western world including Christians where silent, you don't expect me to side with terrorism and that's why I can't side with Israel too because they are worse than Hamas, I'm faithful to Christ only, and that's why I say the truth that this land was inhabited by Palestinians for thousands of years and if Israelis have any claims to the land still this doesn't justify their horrible crimes against our dear Palestinian brothers and sisters
@@polpol2739 and by the way if you are racist enough that you're unable to show sympathy unless someone like you is hurt I'll remind you that among Palestinians many Christians were murdered by Israel. I don't know, I feel I'm wasting my time here, you're all stone hearted and apathetic, I don't really expect anything humane from you, I'm only shocked and disappointed that you still call yourselves Christians.
@@paulinahellen2477 you dont side with christ. because you just stated the false claims that "palestinains inhabited the land for thousands of years". show me that in the bible - chapter and verse
Love this!
This is so important for all Christian’s to understand. The level of antisemitism we are seeing after the attack of Hamas on Israel is so disappointing and disturbing. Thank you Bishop Barron for speaking out.
Beautifully displayed bishop Barron ..
I’m sure Ben Saphiro will embrace the Christian catholic faith one day 🙏⚡️⚡️🎄.
Blessings blessings ..
I love Ben. Great conversation.
Very important.
I recently heard from a Catholic priest friend of mine whose father passed away that when he was organising the funeral mass , his sister refused to accept the hymn ‘O come o come Emmanuel’ because of the lines that mention Israel. Wokeism in Christianity is no longer at the gates but sadly within its walls. The heart of Catholic faith is the Eucharist, which does not make an iota of sense without Israel
I think this goes both ways; it is fundamental to understand Jesus in light of the Old Testament Judaism. At the same time Judaism itself is devoid of its purpose without looking at the figure of Jesus of Nazareth, who is in every way further above the prophets of the Old Testament, Jesus whose Jewish roots are being discussed here because He was a Jew and did deeds beyond the prophets of Judaism of old. If John the Baptist was the greatest man and Jesus was already above him, what more do you expect in Judaism if Jesus is to be not anything of importance? You would only stay forever thinking that human religious works would somehow bring down heaven, compelling it, from its place, and to wait for a national messiah that "saves" Israel from its political and sovereign-state enemies.
Well said. The Bishop had mentioned that in other interviews.
Bishop Barron is so awesome, thank you for having him on Ben!
I don't know what Ben's own sense of the value of Christianity is for him, but he at least will listen seriously to what Christians have to say, and not immediately swat it away.
He thinks Christians should be slaves. It's literally in his holy book.
I feel bad for those who won’t watch simply because someone they don’t like is in it. I thought it was a good conversation and I learned from it (such as Marcionism in the 2nd century and how it’s still persisting and how Old Testament is connected to the nativity story).
Your Excellency I am astounded by your vastness knowledge about the Christianity faith
Two great men of faith. Fans of both.
In my years in New York working with the JCC, almost every Jew I knew loved Christmas and the us observants during the Hanukkah/Christmas season. My ex demanded to go see the the Tree and the Toyshops back in '12.
Ask Ben about the talmud.
Bishop Barron and all clergy ought to interact with EMJ's work.
A faithful Catholic who has really done the legwork on this topic (the JQ) and dedicated his life to it (being canceled for it).
Was St. Paul (a jew) an antisemite when he said (1 Thess 2:14-16)?
Was St. John the beloved Apostle (also a jew) an antisemite (Rev 2:9, 3:9)?
What is an antisemite? When did this term come into existence? Who gets to decide who is an antisemite?
Were the Apostles antisemites when they gathered in the cenacle (John 20:19)?
Ought not Nostra Aetate be read in light of the Church's tradition?
Was St. John Chrysostom Church Doctor and author of Adversus Judaeos, an antisemite?
👍👍👍Excellency!
very informative
We always watch Die Hard! But kidding aside, when Jesus was missing from the caravan, and was found by Joseph and Mary in the Jerusalem temple, his comment was, “Did you not know that I must be about my Father’s business?” Another translation reads, “Did you not know that I must be in the house of my Father?” Later, “Zeal for Your house consumes me.” Catholicism can never be separated fro the “Apple” of His eye. Otherwise, it becomes Protestantism in so many ways.
Ben has a lot to loose if he becomes a believer. But he is interested. Bless him Lord
No Ben loses nothing in the process. He just accepts that his Messiah came. You need to listen to Roy Schoeman.
Ben a Jew, said merry Christmas; that is respect.
The fake Catholics that say happy holidays instead of merry Christmas make me nausea.
He respects Christians only when they send money to him and Israel. By respect I mean manipulate.
I TRUST YOU LORD. Please give me strength to get through this Christmas. I’m holding on and keeping faith. I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to provide for my kids and I constantly struggle to buy groceries. My husband is with you God. At times I feel so alone especially as a single mom. Since suffering a heart attack two years ago and my on going battle with lupus I’m overwhelmed. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m now homeschooling them so my hours to work are limited. Thankfully I have you Lord Jesus. Please continue to give me strength. ❤
God Bless you and give you fortitude and blessings this Christmas and always
God bless you and help you.
Ben smile happy xmas
Christianity is grafted to the root of Judaism. Bishop Barron is a wonderful teacher. Pax Christi
@@mrjohn125 Actually incorrect. While it is acknowledged that Abraham is our father in faith, it was Jacob, who was named Israel, the father of the 12 tribes who became the nation oIsreal under King David.
Abraham fathered a son from Hagar (the maid-servant) who was named Ishmael, whereas God blessed Sarah, Abrahams wife who was barren, at the age of 90 to give birth to Issac; and through Issac would the descendants of Abraham be known.
Pax Christi
@@mrjohn125 I have limited knowledge of theological commonalities between Judaism and Islam - this podcast was about Judaism and Christianity.
Is there going to be an episode on Christian Antisemitism?
Thanks.
I love Jewish people. I'm Ashkenazi by blood (not by much) on my dads side though he's not practicing cause he's catholic. no one that's currently alive in my family is practicing Judaism. But my point in bring that up is to hate Jewish people is to hate my own blood.
So I'm definitely against any antisemitism and my heart breaks seeing it so prominent right now.
But at the same time I know people who are affected on both sides of this conflict going between Israel and Gaza.
And there's been a uptick in anti-Muslim hate too.
Both sides are suffering because of a terrorist group.
And that's not even going into how many people are dying in the conflict.
There's a lot of people and families there who don't want war. And I feel like their cries for help are getting swept under the rug while our media is pushing propaganda to make all of us hate each other.
I don't have an answer for this and I love everyone.
But I really wish someone would do something to try and talk peace.
With all due respect for your good attitude this conflict did not start on Oct. 7th but in 1948 with the ethnic cleansings.
Until the Israelis come to the table and are ready to acknowledge the Palestinians as human beings there wont be peace unfortunately.
No people and no blood is more valuable than another! We have to speak up against hate and nationalism wherever it comes from then this conflict will be solvable.
However we don't seem to hold Israel accountable to adhere to western values at all
Ben getting Eucharist-pilled 😌
Bring in Jimmy Akin
Thank you for this: It's so important to revisit the concept of the Messiah every Advent season for both Jew and Gentile. For so many people the concept has lost its relevancy. For instance what does the concept of the Messiah mean to a Jewish believer living in the United States today? In theory the believer doesn't really need a political messiah any more. The U.S. is better armed than any of its rivaling nations -- unlike olden-day Israel which was for two thousand years essentially controlled at various times by Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persian, Greece and Rome. Where does that leave the Christian?
As it is written:
"For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever."
Amen!
Profound interview, I would love to hear these 2 talk about God from both perspectives. So interesting and God's word first and foremost.
@christineflores8599
Do you think the other guy is a Rabbi?
If I understand your question, no Bishop Barron is a Catholic and I love how respectful they both were to each other!
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Are you responding to my question? There aren't others.
@@therealong yes, as I said, I wasn’t sure if you were asking Christine if they mistakenly thought the bishop is a Rabbi or if you were wondering yourself if he is a Rabbi, so I hope I wasn’t offensive, Merry Christmas
@@reneerochon2437
I see. The problem is with the tagging, someone gets tagged (as you were in my reply), others don't. I usually "copy&paste" the person's name, as to indicate whom I'm answering to, but I didn't here, because I was the only one that replied.
Why didn't my name appear in your comment? Which "Reply" did you click?
Thank you so much for sharing your important thoughts and reminding us of the Jewish and Christian connections. God bless you both
We must first define "Judaise". Because the "Judaism" as seen today is not the Judaism Moses left. It's no more the "Sinai Judaism" as taught by Moses, but the "rabbinic Judaism" as taught by the rabbis through the Talmud.
1:00 "when we de-Judaise Christianity, it turns into a kind of gnostic philosophy". That's correct. But let's not forget, that "when we in-Judaise Christianity, it turns into a kind of rabbinic philosophy".
Can't wait to hear his views on fiducia supplicans.
I believe its a good study to highlight tĥe total study of the historical Jewish Jesus. Unfortunately, we don't all know. God bless. The scandal of the cross as we know, appears, without the full story.
My 2 favorite people on air
Hay can you explaine
Jewish
Jewish religion
Jewish culture
Jewish ethnicity
And what Jewish culture should we follow
Thank you, Bishop Barren. You are blessing to this Protestant brother.
I like how Bishop Barron totally failed to acknowledge Ben’s comment about traditional Catholics being the defenders of the church.
"DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity."
-Human Genome Project
However, the ethos of the past, embodied by the Pharisees who opposed and had Christ killed, persists in the form of Rabbinic Judaism and, directly or indirectly, much of Jewish culture today.
Hope Ben finds Jesus!
You are crazy to assume that is even a possibility for a Zionist like him, cmon
Thank you Ben, for this interview
I was Christian at the age of 24 when I start reading New Testament and comparing Old Testament Holy Spirit helped me understand the difference I left christian celebrations of Pegan holidays free masonry rituals i started studying history of religion Holy Spirit reveals many things .. I start asking God where he wants me go he showed me Jewish people in my dream morning of Rosh Hashanah Holy Spirit said go to Synagogue then I start practicing Judaism and few years later converted, it’s not like Christianity or Islam u can instantly become a Christian. now I felt more spiritual difference.. that’s why Islamic Prophet and Christian prophet birth story is very similar.. Muslim and Christian claim is wrong if they worship same God why they use different God name and different rituals christianity is cult there’s so many things I learned
So do you think Jesus was a bastard child and his mom was a harlot?