At this point we're just in a cycle of: -Leo tries out a new character -Results slightly drop -People question his #1 status -Leo wins a major -"Should've never doubted him"
@@SiiNTi if this isn’t ragebait, he literally played 4 characters this tourney. 2 were fighter pass 1, 1 was fighter pass 2. bruh was running the game with Ike and corrin. Only dude to get results with this nerfed joker. Lemme guess, he should’ve played an honest base game character like sonic?
@@SiiNTi bro you said at LMBM when Leo lost, “ Leo washed he’s just not that good” but the second he wins he’s carried by DLC? What is this twisted mind set ya Buffon?
Don't let MkLeo's victory here distract you from the fact that MuteAce beat the best players in Japan (acola), Europe (Glutonny), USA (Light), and Mexico (MkLeo) back-to-back in one tournament. (Don't let either of those distract you from the fact that ESAM is bald.)
Man what im saying is people not giving mute ace credit for making second at a super stacked supermajor they only talking about leo’s comeback, I think u have the wrong idea
@@hedon89 mute was prolly very nervous for finals too since he’s never really went this far at a tourney this big especially when Leo is making insane comebacks on you
@@troupical For sure. Nobody is sleeping on Muteace! I just personally missed these old time 2 set comebacks from Leo since they felt so common back then but the competition is so fierce nowadays.
@@troupicalhonestly he was great and if Leo didn’t win I would have been super excited for mute. The best part for him is he earned that invitation to summit this year now.
@Enigma Hey, at least Peach has a disadvantage state and can't kill until 150% half of the time. She's one of the hardest characters and still isn't even top 10. You know, unlike Steve, Rob, and Aegis. Lel
As a Peach main, seeing MuteAce go off like this is honestly so inspirational. We all know the character has potential, she just needs a legend to bring it out, and MuteAce is that legend
I love how competitive the top caliber is now across the globe and everyones gameplay has improved so much, but I’d be lying if I said I didnt miss the early days of ultimate as that’s when I started watching and so many top players were all good friends. Before everything went down during Covid. The nostalgia of Joker v Peach is real and Im glad Mute has such a fun/technical Peach to watch, and I love that it is still Leo’s Joker that is crushing it
@@STKTSTKT 100% agree with missing when all top players being friends. Before Nairo got exposed, it was almost like every stream had a top player guest appearance. Good vibes all around, had real lunch table/podcast energy.
Extremely happy for Muteace on reaching this far in Genesis. Love watching the way he plays Peach, especially his use of turnip to do those crazy float combos and other ways to get back on stage safely. He is such an amazing Peach player of the highest caliber to make it at 2nd place. Congrats to MkLeo for winning Genesis 9 and everyone else who made it at the top!
Aight bro so first I open up melee singles grand finals and because I’m on mobile, I glance down at the comments and immediately get a spoiler and now the exact same thing happens here 😂
I’m so happy for Mute, man after all of his struggles that he has gone through, and multiple bracket demons at every tournament, finally having a massive breakthrough is something he deserves, especially with how hard he grinds this game, props to him, and props to everyone else at the tourney!
It's crazy how short the Smash community's memory is. It's been 3 months since Leo stomped an event and I've seen soo many 'Leo is washed' comments it's crazy. Now he shows us again where he stands and everyone will be calling him washed again this time next week. He may not be as dominant as he was as Ultimate has evolved so damn much but because of that no one is remotely close to taking his title yet. Tweek looked unbeatable last week but barely made top 8 here. Doe's that mean he sucks now? No it just goes to show how damn hard it is to remain consistently on top and that's what makes ultimate amazing.
He set the bar really high and the community got braindead lmao. Now if he doesn't win everything he's washed. No really a fair standard to put on anyone. He won the two arguably most stacked tournaments in a 4 month period between this and Ludwig's invite, and took 4th/5th in between that. People need to relax
Honestly if people want something to talk shit about on Leo it's just that he plays a defensive playstyle thinly veiled as aggressive. He doesn't take almost any risks and almost exclusively uses characters with strong/safe disjoints. But people should stop trying to dispute his position
Comes with the fame and position he’s in. People are gonna hate. Glad Leo is proving them wrong. True you can’t win them all but when you’re this consistent and recognized, let idiots say whatever they want. Can’t be helped.
The goat loves winning, also look at how many characters he played this Genesis. I actually think he finds it more fun that people can now beat him and not every event is a guaranteed win.
@@illford he is just so dominate that if he gets 4th once people go around saying he is washed but every pro player puts him as the number 1 player every year
And also the hours of studying. He was reading the minds of all the top players, and even got in Acola's head. When he played Leo, it kept going to last stock because he kept reading Leo's habits. It's like he stopped playing for a bit just to learn the enemy.
@@Scythra "This is Black Excellence" was one of the most famous last words moments of all time 😭😭 n the biggest in Smash (Leo vs Samsora Grand Finals, you know the one) lmaoo. Those were legendary days though.
Yup, this brought all of us back to the MKLeo vs Samsora days where they were the top 2 in the world at that time and gave us all those Peach vs Joker sets
I did feel like his Joker wasn't in top form at the beginning, but he literally kept getting better and better as he went on. Like he was knocking off the rust or something along those lines.
The weird part is there was still noticeable rust as he wasn't hitting his usual confirms, but he masked it with his ridiculous movement, slingshot, and just creative plays. It scares me to say that his joker can get even stronger if he starts landing Dair -> Upsmash and Fair 1 - Up air dragdowns consistently again. In 2019 he got multiple a game, and never missed.
@@SiiNTi Mate, he took sets off of top 10 players with a low/mid tier, and was the best player in the world solo-maining a mid/high tier. Not to mention he was the best in the world at the end of Smash 4. Leo is carried by absolutely no one.
Leo continues to show how important knowing how to play multiple characters continues to be vital in these victories. He picks according to his opponent and he's usually right in his decision. It causes his opponent to forcefully adapt but they are usually extremely loyal to just one character. Kudos for Leo.
His multi-character prowess really shines through because of his adaptation. I feel like going into a set he has an idea of why he wants to use the character, and even if it doesn't work initially, he starts to feel out his vision and makes it work. Best example this tournament was his set vs Sonix. Commentators are like tf is he doing, switch off your tertiary Aegis, but by the end they're like damn, he goated lol
This top 8 was full of character specialists tho (Sonix, Acola, Light, Gluto, Muteace) and most of the matches were very close for the most part. Any one of them could have won. 2nd, 3rd and 4th place were specialists. If anything, this top 8 is an indication that having multiple character is not the dominant strategy even at this level as opposed to putting all your efforts into your main.
@@cthulhu8976 While that is true, I just have an appreciation for players who are willing to be more flexible. I feel like they have a better understanding of the game. It's like Leo crafts a theory on how he's gonna win and what on his belt can he use to achieve it.
@@cthulhu8976 The thing is Leo is one of the only true "multispecialists" around, and when you pair that with his absurd fundamentals, he is only truly beatable through luck or when he isn't trying hard enough for some reason. Leo's Joker and Byleth are better than any others in the circuit, by a huge margin. His Corrin is also best in class. And his understanding of Aegis and Rob is more than good enough for them to be highly effective pocket picks in the right situation. Most other players are out there trying their hardest to master a single tool, but Leo is like an ambidextrous dude who wields an entire toolbox almost as well as any of the specialists. It must be tough to compete against the guy because every time someone comes close, he just tries a little harder and prevails again anyway. I would say I have no idea how he's not bored yet, but the answer is in plain sight: he goes around the roster to reinvigorate his love of the game, and it works for him.
@@Caer-Bannog You are right...Leo is the only one being the top 3 with at least 6 characters (Byleth, Joker, Aegis, Marth, ROB AND Corrin). Maybe the next one is Tweek only with Diddy, Sephiroth and Wario, sadly his pokemon trainer is really forgotten now.
Felt like MuteAce unlocked a whole new perspective of Peach, ever since Samsora left I thought someone like Ling would rise up the character but MuteAce is it man, so good.
Leo at Ludwig’s was MKLeo in Prime Byleth Form: He only dropped one game, but all the games were relatively even compared to his Joker Leo at Genesis is MKLeo Joker at his Prime: He’s got through so many Game 5’s, but so many clutch moments happened along the way along with Reverse 3-0’s. And when Leo is dominating with Joker, he IS dominating *HARD* 2 Characters, and 1 Amazing Player to play them
I like Leo’s Byleth. However, I think Mkleo can’t be consistent by maining him anymore since Byleth is eventually not good enough. Mkleo had a generally good bracket for Byleth in Ludwigs (Steve, Mario, Ness… I think Aegis beats Byleth but Cosmos choked), but he has a hard time against too many characters in current meta (Diddy, Cloud, Fox, Sonic, Kazuya, and probably more) especially when everyone learns to not get cheesed by Byleth now. Joker has a much better disadvantage and it helps a lot when everyone else has scarier advantages now.
I love Mkleo's Byleth because he gets to have fun and win while doing it, but Joker allows Mkleo to truly play his very best. He'll always be among the greatest bc top players will always have to force him to play Joker
Pushing yourself from rank #39 to being up there above Acola, Light & Maister is amazing in itself. The potential for being 2nd best is there and even taking tournaments from Leo. Keep up the skill work and concurring the nerves
Yeah definitely not in talks for 2nd best yet has to have consistency. I always thought MuteAce is great tho hopefully after this we start seeing him in top 8 more often.
It's just a hot streak. People said the same things about Quidd, Zomba, Wizzy, Kola(SaltOne), Kurama(Prodigy), etc. These inconsistent players never stay at the top longer than a month or two, usually not even more than one or two tournaments. Salt lasted the longest but slipped right back to where he was before.
I just want to say this is the best tournament in Smash history. High intensity matches, great players, and close sets left & right. Expert commentating. Everyone that participated played out of their minds. Never seen players moving this fast and reacting so perfectly. Then on top of everything we got to see the Mkleo joker in perfect form and him gain a new rival. This is Smash at its finest.
The only issue I have was the scheadule. Not only did they decide to have Melee Doubles on Sunday but on top of that Ultimate started incredibly late. It was worth staying up to 4:00 am to watch it but it should not have to run this late.
It was a great tourney but definitely not the best. Sonic almost ruined the top 8 alone and viewership kept dropping off substantially. Plenty of better smash tourneys. Apex 2015, Evo 2013 and 2014, 2GG Civil War, Frostbite 2019
The madlad beat every top player on his way to Genesis GRAND FINALS! Only lost to Mr. Genesis himself (and that after getting a set off him as well) and gave us some insane 🍑 schmoves
Even the game-winning kill at 11:15 felt so nostalgic because he did the same eiha snipe during the reverse 3-0 against samsora's peach in SSC 2019 Grand Finals.
En este G9 se nota que a Leo le costo muchísimo llevarse el torneo, sin duda la intensidad va en aumento y todos están sedientos de ganar, eso es excelente para el competitivo, espero Leo siga siendo el top 1 mucho tiempo más. 🇲🇽
This tournament puts MuteAce on the map in a BIG way. He beat Light, Gluttony, Acola, and MkLeo, AND earned himself an invitation to Summit. If he keeps this level of play up, he will cement himself into top 10 players in the world. It's been a long time since seeing this level of Peach play and it's so fun to watch.
Holy hats off to mute ace! As a peach main, I can honestly say it is crazy how far he made it and how hard he must have practiced. This character is hard af to play, and playing him at as high of a level as mute ace, is honestly a treat, and a wonder. GOOD STUFF MUTE!
Let's all remember that in the Genesis crowd, a dad named Fred got his son a giveaway reward and then showed off his MKLeo shirt. I knew Leo was gonna make it to grands at that point. There was something about that moment that made me go "A sleeping beast has woke up."
Damn. I was really rooting for MuteAce. His Peach is insane and I love the underdog story. But at the same time, it's hard to hate on Leo. Dude deserves the number 1 spot. Here's to Mute winning a major soon. If he keeps playing like that, it's guaranteed.
This is so far beyond people just playing video games. They pour their entire lives into the sport, and it shows beautifully in their play. I'm not blessed enough to be as good, but I'll forever enjoy watching.
I mean we saw what this man did at Ludwig and he said.." I'ma try now" and what happened he won after that win Leo didn't really take the other two tournaments.too serious then people start talking once more... "Ohh is Leo top player.or did he fall off " they were asking for it and we'll we seen today what happens.when you piss of the goat 🐐
This matchup is like 2019 all over again. So cool to see it again despite all the changes in the meta. Also really cool to see how players evolved since then. Props to leo and muteace! That was an awesome grand finals
It's nice to see a top notch Peach back in the picture, hope Mute keeps it up. Leo is just brutal. At times you don't think he'll be able to adapt fast enough but then he simply does and his stamina/mental fortitude is just off the charts.
MuteAce my new favorite player to watch! I’ve always loved his play style but he’s definitely my favorite now, what an insane run! I hope to see so much more.
Happy for Leo. Staying at the top where we all know he belongs... But man, Muteace KILLED it this tourney. What a great thing to witness. Best ultimate tourney ever!
MuteAce was amazing this whole tournament. I’ve never seen him this far in a major tourney and for him to reach to finals defeating some of the best players is an amazing feat. I really wished for him to win after gotten this far but I guess Leo show it to us once again why he’s the best. It’s also nice to see him using Joker again.
Savage post-game Leo comments were jarring at first but honestly...that is *beyond* earned. Dude is a remarkable competitor in so many ways, and always respectful to his opponents, he's more than earned the right to push back at a community that is much too eager to yell "WASHED" after any result that isn't 1st place. Fantastic to see him win and stand proud.
Muteace was playing absolutely cracked this tourney! Getting to GRAND FINALS WINNER SIDE by beating all these top players? He's leveled up like crazy, love seeing a top level peach
That was an incredible display of skill from Leo and his Joker. Very happy to see him return to the character and continue to push em even further to new heights.
Spoilers: Leo: 1st at Genesis, 4th at LMBM (2.5 avg) Tweek: 1st at LMBM, 7th at Genesis (4 avg) Spargo: 2nd at LMBM, and 5th at Genesis (3.5 avg) Light: 3rd at Genesis, 5th at LMBM (4 avg) Sonix: 4th at Genesis, 3rd at LMBM (3.5 avg) Muteace: 2nd at Genesis, (2 avg) taking sets from the best in EU, Japan, Mexico and USA (Light?). Gluto: 5th at Genesis, and 5th at LMBM (5 avg) Acola: 7th at Genesis, 1st at Umebura Jpn (4 avg). But Umebura lacked the presence of all of the above. I know it won't stay this way, there's a full year to go. But imho, considering h2h's, so far in 2023, rankings in order right now are: 1- Leo (wins on Mute x2, Sonix, Light x2) 2- Muteace (wins on Leo, Light, Acola, Gluto) 3- Sonix (wins on Gluto, Leo, Spargo) 4- Spargo (wins on Gluto, Sonix, Acola) 5- Tweek (wins on Spargo x2, Leo) 6- Light (wins on Sonix, Spargo, Tweek) 7- Gluto (wins on Tweek, Light) 8- Acola (No wins on any of the above yet) Then its probably Tea, who doesn't have wins on any of the above, including Acola.
@@lavender188 fr i never doubted leo but those have are just haters. Leo will always be my #1 the shit he has accomplished in smash makes him goat status forever
It's so poetic that Leo once peaked with joker during eras where peach and the likes are the meta. And now he uses joker again and once again emerge victorious against peach in grand finals even after the addition of fp2. Also I'm a big fan of muteace now, guy beats several top 10/5 players in a row all the way to grand finals with peach. What a run by both leo and muteace
Peach was never the meta. Well, maybe apart from the first month of the game. In order to be meta, a character has to be used a lot. Peach was never used a lot because of her difficulty. She's just really good lol
@CZ Yu Yeah. It's funny how early Peach fair killed. It's still good, but it's also slow. Always has been. So it's actually easier to hit moves like nair and bair because you don't have to get an early/hard read. And when you're using nair and bair, you're not killing until 150 unless you're at the ledge. Lmao
Mute looked like he was going to have a panic attack at the beginning. I hope he is proud of what he accomplished at this tourney and knows that he's insanely good
Ok that set was fucking insane I haven't seen such a hype and tense set in a while (partly because i dont watch many sets). I am so surprised with MuteAces run in this tiurnament, making it past so many top players. Watching a good peach player was so refreshing to see. And though i was hoping for MuteAce to win (he looked like he was honestly trying his best), I still respect him for that tournament run. Still, I guess MkLeo wants to keep his title as the GOAT.
You can see Leo adapting and testing out all the versatile movement options Joker has over the course of the sets. Both he and MuteAce had an incredible run. And yes, I've had Peach in my Top 5 tier list ever since 2019, now I can finally say I was right.
Ultimate is so beautyful with this type or characters tho. The return of MKLeo🇲🇽 el mejor de todos los tiempos hizo este torneo el mejor torneo de Ultimate que he visto en toda mi vida.
Crazy the comment one of the commentators made about Leo’s joker getting better throughout the tournament Reminds me of son goku getting stronger throughout the tournament of power on the way to fight jiren amazing
feel so bad for muteace, playing so hot agaisnt the best with the most techincal character in the game for so long must f killed his stamina especially set 2
I mean he still Made it to Grand finals and took the set off Leo earlier, muteace goated any way you look at it and got Second which is an amazing placement
Phenomenal for Ace 🎉 its been awhile since someone Reminded us how strong Peach is, the difference i think is how well Leo is at playing under pressure and making comebacks. Second to none!
At this point we're just in a cycle of:
-Leo tries out a new character
-Results slightly drop
-People question his #1 status
-Leo wins a major
-"Should've never doubted him"
@@SiiNTi if this isn’t ragebait, he literally played 4 characters this tourney. 2 were fighter pass 1, 1 was fighter pass 2. bruh was running the game with Ike and corrin. Only dude to get results with this nerfed joker.
Lemme guess, he should’ve played an honest base game character like sonic?
@@SiiNTi u must be trolling
@@SiiNTi bro you said at LMBM when Leo lost, “ Leo washed he’s just not that good” but the second he wins he’s carried by DLC? What is this twisted mind set ya Buffon?
@@grimxdisstracks3178 love it when people got the receipts for past comments XD
@@SiiNTi everyone taking the bait lmao good job dude
Don't let MkLeo's victory here distract you from the fact that MuteAce beat the best players in Japan (acola), Europe (Glutonny), USA (Light), and Mexico (MkLeo) back-to-back in one tournament.
(Don't let either of those distract you from the fact that ESAM is bald.)
Fr everyone talking about leo as if mute ain’t dominate this tourney
@@sikeyno.8797 Winners Leo would get smoked by Losers Leo just like MuteAce did don't cap.
The power of mr clean is among us
Man what im saying is people not giving mute ace credit for making second at a super stacked supermajor they only talking about leo’s comeback, I think u have the wrong idea
@@hedon89 mute was prolly very nervous for finals too since he’s never really went this far at a tourney this big especially when Leo is making insane comebacks on you
You don’t know how much I’ve missed these 40+ min videos of Mkleo in losers. You know exactly what to expect and it’s beautiful.
Muteace was even more impressive in this tournament if anything he had improved so much.
@@troupical For sure. Nobody is sleeping on Muteace! I just personally missed these old time 2 set comebacks from Leo since they felt so common back then but the competition is so fierce nowadays.
@@troupicalhonestly he was great and if Leo didn’t win I would have been super excited for mute. The best part for him is he earned that invitation to summit this year now.
The reverse 3-0s. The game 4. The losers runback. The Joker. Mr. Genesis is finally back.
insane!
I love how Leo joker went from being hated because they thought he was carried, to being loved after the Sonix, Aegis, Steve and Kazuya dark ages.
@@fernandovargas5338 real ones never hated leo he’s the goat
Well, a rather short losers run.
@@SiiNTikeep crying, that doesn't change his victory above all, especially on sonix.
MuteAce - you may not know it yet, but you've just inspired a whole new breed of Peach players. You're insane
Me as I just started playin peach 2 months ago
thats a fact
God no. No more peach players. The 3 we have is more than enough 🤣
@Enigma Hey, at least Peach has a disadvantage state and can't kill until 150% half of the time. She's one of the hardest characters and still isn't even top 10. You know, unlike Steve, Rob, and Aegis. Lel
As a Peach main, seeing MuteAce go off like this is honestly so inspirational. We all know the character has potential, she just needs a legend to bring it out, and MuteAce is that legend
After almost 4 years we're back to Peach and Joker Grand Finals. Funny how history repeats itself.
I love how competitive the top caliber is now across the globe and everyones gameplay has improved so much, but I’d be lying if I said I didnt miss the early days of ultimate as that’s when I started watching and so many top players were all good friends. Before everything went down during Covid. The nostalgia of Joker v Peach is real and Im glad Mute has such a fun/technical Peach to watch, and I love that it is still Leo’s Joker that is crushing it
@@STKTSTKT 100% agree with missing when all top players being friends. Before Nairo got exposed, it was almost like every stream had a top player guest appearance. Good vibes all around, had real lunch table/podcast energy.
Extremely happy for Muteace on reaching this far in Genesis. Love watching the way he plays Peach, especially his use of turnip to do those crazy float combos and other ways to get back on stage safely. He is such an amazing Peach player of the highest caliber to make it at 2nd place. Congrats to MkLeo for winning Genesis 9 and everyone else who made it at the top!
His condition is a real shame. What could this man do was he not weakened by it...
Aight bro so first I open up melee singles grand finals and because I’m on mobile, I glance down at the comments and immediately get a spoiler and now the exact same thing happens here 😂
@@thedrianit’s super frustrating
@@SiiNTi cope harder please 🙂
I’m so happy for Mute, man after all of his struggles that he has gone through, and multiple bracket demons at every tournament, finally having a massive breakthrough is something he deserves, especially with how hard he grinds this game, props to him, and props to everyone else at the tourney!
It's crazy how short the Smash community's memory is. It's been 3 months since Leo stomped an event and I've seen soo many 'Leo is washed' comments it's crazy. Now he shows us again where he stands and everyone will be calling him washed again this time next week.
He may not be as dominant as he was as Ultimate has evolved so damn much but because of that no one is remotely close to taking his title yet. Tweek looked unbeatable last week but barely made top 8 here. Doe's that mean he sucks now? No it just goes to show how damn hard it is to remain consistently on top and that's what makes ultimate amazing.
He set the bar really high and the community got braindead lmao. Now if he doesn't win everything he's washed. No really a fair standard to put on anyone. He won the two arguably most stacked tournaments in a 4 month period between this and Ludwig's invite, and took 4th/5th in between that. People need to relax
Honestly if people want something to talk shit about on Leo it's just that he plays a defensive playstyle thinly veiled as aggressive. He doesn't take almost any risks and almost exclusively uses characters with strong/safe disjoints. But people should stop trying to dispute his position
Comes with the fame and position he’s in. People are gonna hate. Glad Leo is proving them wrong. True you can’t win them all but when you’re this consistent and recognized, let idiots say whatever they want. Can’t be helped.
This comment 🔥
My favorite part of competitive Smash Ultimate is the sheer number of players who can take on the best in the world and potentially win
I feel like we stepped in a time machine set back to 2019. MkLeo? Losers side? Joker?!
and peach in grands too
Classic ultimate but at an even higher level is such a treat to watch.
I got to add, this is an awesome timeline to be living
@@olamideodusote4204 RIP Samsora, the young ones don't know.
@@SiiNTi cope harder lmao
I love how Leo refuses to be out of the “best player” conversation. The real Goat.
Huge spoiler 😭
@@gmtheblueberry1682 why are you reading comments before watching the video?
The goat loves winning, also look at how many characters he played this Genesis. I actually think he finds it more fun that people can now beat him and not every event is a guaranteed win.
Was he ever. Idk i feel like most people just auro assume he's number 1
@@illford he is just so dominate that if he gets 4th once people go around saying he is washed but every pro player puts him as the number 1 player every year
muteace’s movement with peach is so smooth, can’t imagine the hours he’s put into peach
And also the hours of studying. He was reading the minds of all the top players, and even got in Acola's head. When he played Leo, it kept going to last stock because he kept reading Leo's habits. It's like he stopped playing for a bit just to learn the enemy.
@@goosnavslakovic4908 It reminded me of hungrybox's jigglypuff level of patience and counterplay. Hope to see more from him!
I agree with this statement, but in a different context it's very sus
@@Turtle9815 muteace is gay lol
@@Turtle9815 lol I smell samsora energy 😂🤣😂🤣
props to MuteAce and Mkleo giving us the Peach v Joker throwback, felt like forever since we last saw it and definitely becoming rare in recent metas
Yup the Samsora time period.
@@Scythra I’m so happy he’s gone.
@@aquatazer everyone deserves happiness someway.
@@Scythra "This is Black Excellence" was one of the most famous last words moments of all time 😭😭 n the biggest in Smash (Leo vs Samsora Grand Finals, you know the one) lmaoo. Those were legendary days though.
Yup, this brought all of us back to the MKLeo vs Samsora days where they were the top 2 in the world at that time and gave us all those Peach vs Joker sets
I did feel like his Joker wasn't in top form at the beginning, but he literally kept getting better and better as he went on. Like he was knocking off the rust or something along those lines.
The weird part is there was still noticeable rust as he wasn't hitting his usual confirms, but he masked it with his ridiculous movement, slingshot, and just creative plays. It scares me to say that his joker can get even stronger if he starts landing Dair -> Upsmash and Fair 1 - Up air dragdowns consistently again. In 2019 he got multiple a game, and never missed.
Omg true lol like they said he was leveling up on the go
Something tells me Leo found a Time Machine
@@SiiNTi Mate, he took sets off of top 10 players with a low/mid tier, and was the best player in the world solo-maining a mid/high tier. Not to mention he was the best in the world at the end of Smash 4. Leo is carried by absolutely no one.
@@SiiNTi How's that copium taste?
Leo continues to show how important knowing how to play multiple characters continues to be vital in these victories. He picks according to his opponent and he's usually right in his decision. It causes his opponent to forcefully adapt but they are usually extremely loyal to just one character. Kudos for Leo.
His multi-character prowess really shines through because of his adaptation. I feel like going into a set he has an idea of why he wants to use the character, and even if it doesn't work initially, he starts to feel out his vision and makes it work. Best example this tournament was his set vs Sonix. Commentators are like tf is he doing, switch off your tertiary Aegis, but by the end they're like damn, he goated lol
This top 8 was full of character specialists tho (Sonix, Acola, Light, Gluto, Muteace) and most of the matches were very close for the most part. Any one of them could have won. 2nd, 3rd and 4th place were specialists. If anything, this top 8 is an indication that having multiple character is not the dominant strategy even at this level as opposed to putting all your efforts into your main.
@@cthulhu8976 While that is true, I just have an appreciation for players who are willing to be more flexible. I feel like they have a better understanding of the game. It's like Leo crafts a theory on how he's gonna win and what on his belt can he use to achieve it.
@@cthulhu8976 The thing is Leo is one of the only true "multispecialists" around, and when you pair that with his absurd fundamentals, he is only truly beatable through luck or when he isn't trying hard enough for some reason. Leo's Joker and Byleth are better than any others in the circuit, by a huge margin. His Corrin is also best in class. And his understanding of Aegis and Rob is more than good enough for them to be highly effective pocket picks in the right situation. Most other players are out there trying their hardest to master a single tool, but Leo is like an ambidextrous dude who wields an entire toolbox almost as well as any of the specialists. It must be tough to compete against the guy because every time someone comes close, he just tries a little harder and prevails again anyway. I would say I have no idea how he's not bored yet, but the answer is in plain sight: he goes around the roster to reinvigorate his love of the game, and it works for him.
@@Caer-Bannog You are right...Leo is the only one being the top 3 with at least 6 characters (Byleth, Joker, Aegis, Marth, ROB AND Corrin). Maybe the next one is Tweek only with Diddy, Sephiroth and Wario, sadly his pokemon trainer is really forgotten now.
Honestly, ggs to Muteace
Rocking that Peach in grands is insane
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Leo doesnt face peach often so he definitely struggled against how floaty she is but once he got it down he adapted pretty quick
That 2019 knowledge resurfaced
Can give a vampire brain freeze.. rip samsora
Felt like MuteAce unlocked a whole new perspective of Peach, ever since Samsora left I thought someone like Ling would rise up the character but MuteAce is it man, so good.
His byleth struggled, i dont think his joker really did
Light awakened something in Leo and for the rest of the night he played extremely well
Seeing Leo in advantage is always a treat to behold
Good match from both players!
Leo at Ludwig’s was MKLeo in Prime Byleth Form: He only dropped one game, but all the games were relatively even compared to his Joker
Leo at Genesis is MKLeo Joker at his Prime: He’s got through so many Game 5’s, but so many clutch moments happened along the way along with Reverse 3-0’s. And when Leo is dominating with Joker, he IS dominating *HARD*
2 Characters, and 1 Amazing Player to play them
I like Leo’s Byleth. However, I think Mkleo can’t be consistent by maining him anymore since Byleth is eventually not good enough. Mkleo had a generally good bracket for Byleth in Ludwigs (Steve, Mario, Ness… I think Aegis beats Byleth but Cosmos choked), but he has a hard time against too many characters in current meta (Diddy, Cloud, Fox, Sonic, Kazuya, and probably more) especially when everyone learns to not get cheesed by Byleth now.
Joker has a much better disadvantage and it helps a lot when everyone else has scarier advantages now.
I love Mkleo's Byleth because he gets to have fun and win while doing it, but Joker allows Mkleo to truly play his very best. He'll always be among the greatest bc top players will always have to force him to play Joker
his joker isn't even as warmed up yet. he's going to be even more unstoppable soon if he keeps going with joker.
@@albertshen1904 True, but in the end, he played Byleth because he loved playing him. And I think that's admirable
@Obsidian Crow do u remember the per scandal days of smash with samsora and company? Those were peak smash days
数々の世界一候補がやられていく中この安定感、やはりレオが世界最強だわ。そして全盛期のレオが帰ってきた感あって嬉しいよ
彼女できてからまじで強い
愛の力って凄いんだな
@@Ozi_i 彼女できたのもあるけどタンジュンにジョーカーに戻したのが大きい
Pushing yourself from rank #39 to being up there above Acola, Light & Maister is amazing in itself. The potential for being 2nd best is there and even taking tournaments from Leo. Keep up the skill work and concurring the nerves
I mean Tweek and Sparg0 exist but MuteAce is top 5 material imo
Maister? He’s not even top 10
Yeah definitely not in talks for 2nd best yet has to have consistency. I always thought MuteAce is great tho hopefully after this we start seeing him in top 8 more often.
Top 20 after this tournament at least
It's just a hot streak. People said the same things about Quidd, Zomba, Wizzy, Kola(SaltOne), Kurama(Prodigy), etc. These inconsistent players never stay at the top longer than a month or two, usually not even more than one or two tournaments. Salt lasted the longest but slipped right back to where he was before.
I just want to say this is the best tournament in Smash history. High intensity matches, great players, and close sets left & right. Expert commentating. Everyone that participated played out of their minds. Never seen players moving this fast and reacting so perfectly. Then on top of everything we got to see the Mkleo joker in perfect form and him gain a new rival. This is Smash at its finest.
The good timeline 🙏
The only issue I have was the scheadule.
Not only did they decide to have Melee Doubles on Sunday but on top of that Ultimate started incredibly late. It was worth staying up to 4:00 am to watch it but it should not have to run this late.
I agree, the intensity it was played was out of this world.
Incredible runs, many upsets...
It was a great tourney but definitely not the best. Sonic almost ruined the top 8 alone and viewership kept dropping off substantially. Plenty of better smash tourneys. Apex 2015, Evo 2013 and 2014, 2GG Civil War, Frostbite 2019
best tournament in smash history is crazytalk. its maybe the best ultimate tournament in the past 6 months but thats abt it
26:58 “let’s do this!” mute hyping himself up had me hyped as hell watching this live, great set great tournament!
holy moley MuteAce made it this far tho? what a champ
The madlad beat every top player on his way to Genesis GRAND FINALS! Only lost to Mr. Genesis himself (and that after getting a set off him as well) and gave us some insane 🍑 schmoves
Even the game-winning kill at 11:15 felt so nostalgic because he did the same eiha snipe during the reverse 3-0 against samsora's peach in SSC 2019 Grand Finals.
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Leo has dead ass won 5 Genesis tournaments that’s more than armada + mang0 in melee and zero in sm4sh combined
En este G9 se nota que a Leo le costo muchísimo llevarse el torneo, sin duda la intensidad va en aumento y todos están sedientos de ganar, eso es excelente para el competitivo, espero Leo siga siendo el top 1 mucho tiempo más. 🇲🇽
優勝が決まった時mkleoがいつも以上に嬉しそうなのが印象に残ったなぁ〜
mkleoおめでとう！！！世界1！！
This tournament puts MuteAce on the map in a BIG way. He beat Light, Gluttony, Acola, and MkLeo, AND earned himself an invitation to Summit. If he keeps this level of play up, he will cement himself into top 10 players in the world.
It's been a long time since seeing this level of Peach play and it's so fun to watch.
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21:05 that was so sick
Was looking for this comment holy shit!!!
Holy hats off to mute ace! As a peach main, I can honestly say it is crazy how far he made it and how hard he must have practiced. This character is hard af to play, and playing him at as high of a level as mute ace, is honestly a treat, and a wonder. GOOD STUFF MUTE!
High level joker vs high level peach is art. Hope to see these 2 face off more
This set was CRAZY! Muteace played amazing. Unfortunately Leo’s joker caught fire and just went on an absolute tear.
Watching leo on joker is pure MAGIC. I’ve missed it.
例え誰が相手であろうと、何が起きようと、MKLeoジョーカーという神話は永遠に続く
それこそがスマブラSPなんだ
Let's all remember that in the Genesis crowd, a dad named Fred got his son a giveaway reward and then showed off his MKLeo shirt. I knew Leo was gonna make it to grands at that point. There was something about that moment that made me go "A sleeping beast has woke up."
Alright Leo doubters, time for every single one of you to sign the Leo Apology form.
Thank you sir for ruining the suspense
@@nico2electric374 what kind of moron do you have to be to read comments before watching a series
@@nico2electric374 What the hell do you think a comment section is for? It's for commenting about said video.
@@porkerpants this was the top comment for a bit and I saw it when I started watching the set my dude
@@nico2electric374 go to the comment section at the end of the video lol
Damn. I was really rooting for MuteAce. His Peach is insane and I love the underdog story.
But at the same time, it's hard to hate on Leo. Dude deserves the number 1 spot. Here's to Mute winning a major soon. If he keeps playing like that, it's guaranteed.
Que tremendo talento tiene Leo, es increíble de verdad, enhorabuena Leo.
back here to remember the last breath of the leo era
This is so far beyond people just playing video games. They pour their entire lives into the sport, and it shows beautifully in their play. I'm not blessed enough to be as good, but I'll forever enjoy watching.
熱い試合ばかりで本当に面白かった！そしてMKLeoはやっぱり最強だった…
Such a treat to watch Mkleo comebacks. The GOAT 🇲🇽
MuteAce was a MONSTER at Genesis. I can’t imagine the exhaustion from playing that precise.
People forgot that Leo's the GOAT! Vamos Leo
I mean we saw what this man did at Ludwig and he said.." I'ma try now" and what happened he won after that win Leo didn't really take the other two tournaments.too serious then people start talking once more... "Ohh is Leo top player.or did he fall off " they were asking for it and we'll we seen today what happens.when you piss of the goat 🐐
Have to remind the tweak stans that lol . When leo actually tries , hes a beast . The 🐐
This matchup is like 2019 all over again. So cool to see it again despite all the changes in the meta. Also really cool to see how players evolved since then. Props to leo and muteace! That was an awesome grand finals
It's nice to see a top notch Peach back in the picture, hope Mute keeps it up. Leo is just brutal. At times you don't think he'll be able to adapt fast enough but then he simply does and his stamina/mental fortitude is just off the charts.
MuteAce my new favorite player to watch! I’ve always loved his play style but he’s definitely my favorite now, what an insane run! I hope to see so much more.
Muteace is godly but there was no way he was taking Genesis over Leo. Leo is that guy. Should’ve never doubted him especially here
We wanted Joker, we got joker
And it's beautiful to watch.
Thrilled to see these guys in finals. Mutace well done you are freaking amazing! It's brilliant seeing you play. And Leo, you are our GOAT 🥺🤩
Those Game 4 MKLeo combos coming in hot 19:59 + 21:04
Muteace should be proud. Man's fairy tale run stopped short but DAMN he made us believe. He made us all believe.
"Authority is not given to you to deny the return of the king, steward."
i’m gonna miss this org
So Is their yt channel gonna still be up or should I dl my favorite matches?
Happy for Leo. Staying at the top where we all know he belongs... But man, Muteace KILLED it this tourney. What a great thing to witness. Best ultimate tourney ever!
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What I love about MkLeo is that despite being the best in the world, he still has that underdog energy in so many of his matches
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まじでMuteAceかっこよかった...
これがガチの俺たちの憧れたスマブラだろ
MuteAce was amazing this whole tournament. I’ve never seen him this far in a major tourney and for him to reach to finals defeating some of the best players is an amazing feat. I really wished for him to win after gotten this far but I guess Leo show it to us once again why he’s the best. It’s also nice to see him using Joker again.
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Savage post-game Leo comments were jarring at first but honestly...that is *beyond* earned. Dude is a remarkable competitor in so many ways, and always respectful to his opponents, he's more than earned the right to push back at a community that is much too eager to yell "WASHED" after any result that isn't 1st place. Fantastic to see him win and stand proud.
Muteace was playing absolutely cracked this tourney! Getting to GRAND FINALS WINNER SIDE by beating all these top players? He's leveled up like crazy, love seeing a top level peach
I absolutely love seeing Mkleo's smile to different kinds of moments, like when he made it back despite being stagespiked on the first game haha
That was an incredible display of skill from Leo and his Joker. Very happy to see him return to the character and continue to push em even further to new heights.
And muteace
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Mutes playercam is so fun to watch throughout all of this. You can really tell he wanted that win.
Spoilers:
Leo: 1st at Genesis, 4th at LMBM (2.5 avg)
Tweek: 1st at LMBM, 7th at Genesis (4 avg)
Spargo: 2nd at LMBM, and 5th at Genesis (3.5 avg)
Light: 3rd at Genesis, 5th at LMBM (4 avg)
Sonix: 4th at Genesis, 3rd at LMBM (3.5 avg)
Muteace: 2nd at Genesis, (2 avg) taking sets from the best in EU, Japan, Mexico and USA (Light?).
Gluto: 5th at Genesis, and 5th at LMBM (5 avg)
Acola: 7th at Genesis, 1st at Umebura Jpn (4 avg). But Umebura lacked the presence of all of the above.
I know it won't stay this way, there's a full year to go. But imho, considering h2h's, so far in 2023, rankings in order right now are:
1- Leo (wins on Mute x2, Sonix, Light x2)
2- Muteace (wins on Leo, Light, Acola, Gluto)
3- Sonix (wins on Gluto, Leo, Spargo)
4- Spargo (wins on Gluto, Sonix, Acola)
5- Tweek (wins on Spargo x2, Leo)
6- Light (wins on Sonix, Spargo, Tweek)
7- Gluto (wins on Tweek, Light)
8- Acola (No wins on any of the above yet)
Then its probably Tea, who doesn't have wins on any of the above, including Acola.
acola definitely has wins on tweek and light. 2-0 on tweek and 3-1 on light afaict
@@frequentlywrong4459 In 2023? We're talking about 2023. New year, new rankings are in the making.
HUGE PROPS to Muteace honestly, he brought back one of the best rivalries on ultimate since sam forma de sora
muteace was incredible this tourney, I honestly did not expect him getting this far. Not doubting him again
We should’ve never doubted him
We?
@@lavender188 have you paid any attention to what’s happened in the last like month
@tilt! yes. I didnt doubt him tho.
@@lavender188 fr i never doubted leo but those have are just haters. Leo will always be my #1 the shit he has accomplished in smash makes him goat status forever
@Killmatic plus he's had a history of beating a good peach in grands... mutace played out of his mind but leo knows how to seal the deal.
32:30 Leo smiling and laughing like: "Yeah man, this character (Joker) is bullshit lol"
It's so poetic that Leo once peaked with joker during eras where peach and the likes are the meta. And now he uses joker again and once again emerge victorious against peach in grand finals even after the addition of fp2.
Also I'm a big fan of muteace now, guy beats several top 10/5 players in a row all the way to grand finals with peach. What a run by both leo and muteace
Peach was never the meta. Well, maybe apart from the first month of the game. In order to be meta, a character has to be used a lot. Peach was never used a lot because of her difficulty. She's just really good lol
@@bluyu Well yea I was exaggerating a bit about peach. I really missed those early smash ultimate days lol
@CZ Yu Yeah. It's funny how early Peach fair killed. It's still good, but it's also slow. Always has been. So it's actually easier to hit moves like nair and bair because you don't have to get an early/hard read. And when you're using nair and bair, you're not killing until 150 unless you're at the ledge. Lmao
Gonna miss you summit :(
And everyone thought he somehow fell off of this throne.
great job spoiling the vid
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becuz he kinda did
@@mrjollyguy25 it was the top comment dude it showed up before you even open the comment section
he left to use the restroom and everyone thought the throne was open
ピーチらしい高火力に加え、相手に攻めさせる立ち回り、復帰がうますぎたMuteaceに感動している（それを超えるleoにも）
I can safely say staying up till 3 am to watch this live was worth it
Mute looked like he was going to have a panic attack at the beginning. I hope he is proud of what he accomplished at this tourney and knows that he's insanely good
ジョーカーの動きめっちゃ良くなってるなぁ。レオジョーカー復活か。
This 4th seed guy is pretty good
Don't let Leo's win distract you from what EE said at 36:20
He can't be stopped 😆
This took me out lol 😂😂😂
Lmao
“Shut up”
What did he say? “Two goats one stage? But you can actually watch this” I don’t get it
Can’t believe people actually thought he wasn’t number one
Same happened post-quarantine.
And when he was seeded third at the Ludwig invitational.
And again here, seeded third.
Leo always shuts them up.
@@mattkim96 he was seeded four
@@yuries19 oh, I literally couldn’t imagine him being seeded that low I guess
So this is the end
The recovery at 47:55 was amazing lol....She just gently glides back to stage.
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MuteAce's run was insane, I'm happy to see a Peach fill the void once left by he-who-should-not-be-mentioned-here
Commenters: We wanna see a game 5.
Me: *screaming* Hell no, I don't wanna see that. Leo it's time to win now
*Leo wins*
Me: :V
Leo won on Game 4's in both sets. Coincidence? I think not.
@@jonathanlgill game 4 leo
:v
Muteace has the best winners run for a long time, beating Maister, Glutonny, Acola, Light, and Mkleo for Grand Finals. Glad he did well here :)
MkLeo is one of the few smash players that have utterly dominated his respective game and people still love to see him win
36:57 You can see the difference between the player's confidence, Muteace faces tell you everything, and Leo just scratches his nose and back air lol
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これだよこれ！
こういうスマブラが見たいんだよ
Its nice to see new people in grand finals and also nice to see that Leo is not making it easy for them
I knew Muteace had what it takes to be in finals he did an amazing job 👏 .....felicidades Leo you still King.
様々なジョーカー使いが成長してくるなかで格の違いを見せるmkleo
優勝おめでとう！
Ok that set was fucking insane I haven't seen such a hype and tense set in a while (partly because i dont watch many sets). I am so surprised with MuteAces run in this tiurnament, making it past so many top players. Watching a good peach player was so refreshing to see. And though i was hoping for MuteAce to win (he looked like he was honestly trying his best), I still respect him for that tournament run. Still, I guess MkLeo wants to keep his title as the GOAT.
Best grand finals I have seen in a long time. Muteace deserves to be in here and Mkleo joker is back. Not a Steve or kazuya in sight. Beautiful.
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You can see Leo adapting and testing out all the versatile movement options Joker has over the course of the sets. Both he and MuteAce had an incredible run. And yes, I've had Peach in my Top 5 tier list ever since 2019, now I can finally say I was right.
I was watching this live, I swear we should credit Light for waking up the BEAST.
Light has taken credit himself for that exact matter in his tweet
Ngl, I thought light was gunna take it but Leo wasnt having any of that.
また世界最強に戻ってきてくれ
Ultimate is so beautyful with this type or characters tho. The return of MKLeo🇲🇽 el mejor de todos los tiempos hizo este torneo el mejor torneo de Ultimate que he visto en toda mi vida.
What a set! Beautiful work from everyone involved! Congrats to mkleo! Wonderfully done🎉
Crazy the comment one of the commentators made about Leo’s joker getting better throughout the tournament Reminds me of son goku getting stronger throughout the tournament of power on the way to fight jiren amazing
feel so bad for muteace, playing so hot agaisnt the best with the most techincal character in the game for so long must f killed his stamina especially set 2
I mean he still Made it to Grand finals and took the set off Leo earlier, muteace goated any way you look at it and got Second which is an amazing placement
Ice climbers are the most technical characters
Phenomenal for Ace 🎉 its been awhile since someone Reminded us how strong Peach is, the difference i think is how well Leo is at playing under pressure and making comebacks. Second to none!