Why Cody Said Many Clones Question ORDER 66 Lately - Bad Batch Season 2
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- in the bad batch season 2 trailer we finally get to see Cody once again since his betrayal of obi-wan in revenge of the sith during order 66. Cody was talking with Crosshair and he was explaining how a lot of clones are questioning the order. To me this is something I always wondered as a kid when revenge of the sith came out, I Was 15 years old and I wondered if any clones felt bad for what they did to the jedi, or if any even didn’t follow orders. Now we really start to dive more into that with the bad batch and even with the clone wars season 7. I think it’s a huge worm hole to dive into and explore why some disobey, and why most obey. In Rex’s case, his attachment and love for Ahsoka bought her a few seconds before he pulled the trigger. However with Jesse, he never hesitated. Why the discrepancy? I believe some inhibitor chips either weren’t put in properly in the ones disobeying, or it wore off over time.
There’s also the question of, what happened to them in battle? For example when Crosshair had that explosion near his head, did that burn out the chip in his brain that forced him to execute order 66? Is he acting on free will? I personally think he just hates his brothers and has a different way of thinking about how the galaxy should be run. I think this is probably one of my biggest questions about the clones which I am excited to have answered. Why some disobey the order, or question it, while others follow it until the end of time. For example when the empire switched to regular enlistees from all over the galaxy, there were still clones getting very old in the ranks as storm troopers now. They were responsible for training the new humans and aliens that enlisted as storm troopers for the empire. Now, there is also the case where clones may not even see or hear order 66 be executed. Like Cut the clone from the first season of the bad batch who lived out on that farm and didn’t get any access to Palpatine’s Orders. Now when Crosshair replies and tells him that they are all traitors just like the jedi, cody gives him a side eye look like he’s starting to question things himself. As if he’s thinking, what if they’re not all traitors, what if we should be questioning the orders given to us. I believe the clones, while being programmed to follow orders blindly due to the chip and their training/cloning, are also able to see the vast difference in their relationship with the jedi, and some may even question why this discrepancy is taking place. Why were they once loyal and fought along side their jedi generals, only now to have killed them all and are ordered to do so due to the Jedi’s alleged betrayal.
Now you might ask what exactly did they betray?
Well, Palpatine made it very clear at the senate hearing after the JEdi attacked him that the attempt on his life was treason, and left him scarred and deformed. That the Jedi tried to spy on him and that had his protector not been there to save him, he’d be dead. He made the galaxy and the clones believe the Jedi were on a quest for power and control of the senates, and that they were going to take over the galaxy if not wiped out.
I think Cody’s relationship with Obi-Wan Kenobi perhaps may make him second guess things now that some time has passed. Cody to Obi-Wan was like Rex to Anakin almost. And if Rex paused ORder 66 for Ahsoka, I’m sure he would have done the same for Anakin. So I like to believe that Cody, while not as close to Kenobi as rex was to ahsoka or anakin, will eventually come around to at least questioning why so many clones are questioning the order, and this in turn will lead him to question his own beliefs and way of living through ORder 66.
As for Crosshair, I think he’ll continue to just hate his brothers and want to keep fighting alongside the Empire.
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It was Rex’s insane mental fortitude that granted him a few seconds of self control before he attacked Ashoka.
Agreed. I also think it was a combination between his mental fortitude and the very strong emotional connection and bond that he has with Ashoka and Anakin!
That and somewhat knowledge of the inhibitor chip due to Fives, I think he whispered the truth to Rex before dying without saying "order 66."
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@@mpsorrentino this is it bro just rewatched those episodes with my dad and couldn’t let myself cry
I always loved in RotS how one moment Cody hands Obi-Wan his lightsaber, and then a minute later tries to kill him. Long before we had any of the backstory on it elaborated, that was the strongest evidence that a switch was flipped when Palpatine gave the order. Cody was genuinely a friend to Obi-Wan and the Jedi, so it would make sense that he might be more resilient to the chip's effects as time goes on. It's such an interesting concept that SW writers can come back to again and again.
Don't forget Howzer from S1. He seemed to come around on his own. Thinking Cody will be the same.
Love the vid man
“Officially, there never was a *clone rebellion* on Kamino…”
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Kamino is destroyed so
I’m afraid Cody is going to join Rex and the other clone rebels at the last minute and then die either defending omega or Rex.
Probably because it supposed to be 9 clones in rebels
Exactly what i was thinking
Thats what I am thinking is going to happen
It's gonna be really gut-wrenching to see Commander Cody's fate.
Agreed.
It won't be gut-wrenching though. Disney will see to it that a predictable, happy ending is in store for him where he defects for plot convenience - I.E. the lowest common denominator.
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A this point, i would be glad if Cody gets run over by a Bantha and dies because of that. That traitor does deserve it.
...I really have no positive thoughts or feelings for him, not as with Rex. Fuck Cody.
I think we are going to see a beautiful “cody defects from the empire” arc in this season. I could not have wished for anything better.
would make the most sense to me. it's getting a little old with the whole 'rogue clones disobey the order! join the rebels!' thing but with Cody it makes a lot more sense since theres been a big gap in his canon work with the empire
i really hope so, he was always my favourite clone. i hope he mentions how he open fired on his general, Obi Wan!
I hope so.
I don't know he seemed way more rule focused compared to Rex and obeyed orders better. He didn't hesitate to shoot obi wan or even get a chance to think about it
Cody didn't hesitate for a second when the Order came down. It was very matter-of-factly; "Yes, my lord. Blast him!", done. Doesn't make much sense to me for him, especially, to question it. He was a always a stickler for rules and hierarchy. He would probably be aware that other clones question it, but I honestly hope we don't see a redemption arc for Cody or Crosshair. Sometimes even initially good people choose the wrong side and stick with it. It would be neat for Star Wars to tackle this reality.
I think he’ll come around, but I’m worried we’ll lose him. There’s going to be something at some point that finally drives Rex, Wolffe, and Gregor into retirement even though Ahsoka keeps up the fight.
The question is if Codey did come around, why did he not go with Rex?
@@wholechains62 exactly, i’m imagining cody dies in a sad way and that’s how his story ends, possibly he kills himself of dies in battle
If cody dies in the bad batch season 2, but disney already plans for Star Wars: cody series, they probably brought cody back to life in First episode of his own series, but not until 2024.
@@isiahanderson9425 how in the hell can he kill himself and die in battle at the same time.
@@CaptainRockoBD He could sacrifice himself to save his men. That's something I could see him doing, but I don't think he will - and I hope he won't - betray the Empire.
I think Crosshair may end up shooting Cody, just getting that kinda vibe
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If he ends up killing Cody off, Crosshair is so going to be on the hated SW characters list again. Just saying.
Thats what im really worried about im going to be honest my favorite Clones are Echo Five and Wollfe and Rex is my least favorite with fox and Neyo being under him i like Cody way more than Rex so im going to be really upset if Cody ends up getting killed
@trey nicholsjr Rex is my favorite in the entire clone army, followed by Echo, Fives, and the squad from Republic Commando
ill hate crosshair if he kills cody. i definitely want him to become one of the good guys again.
I could’ve sworn Crosshair admitted that he already removed his inhibitor chip in the final episodes
He did, I remember this too
It must’ve been horrible. Just imagine momentarily losing control of your actions and having to sit in your own body watching yourself betray one of your closest comrades and commanders, and right as your conscious mind is resigned to the idea that you’ll be carrying out compulsory orders for the rest of your life, it just snaps back to you being in control of your body. It’d be tortuous
Warning in advance as this is a long message, but I have a different theory as to why Rex resisted his inhibitor chip for a bit when Order 66 commenced:
Although Rex had a close relationship with Ahsoka, and that could be a reason why he resisted a bit before firing at her, I believe that maybe the PRIMARY reason he resisted was because at that moment, when he hears Sidious say "Execute Order 66", he is psychologically and maybe for a brief moment emotionally stunned because he realizes that this moment is exactly what Fives was trying to warn him and Anakin about long ago. The reason I believe this is because when Sidious finishes giving Rex the order, Rex DROPS HIS HELMET instead of turning around, waiting a bit, putting his helmet on, and proceeding to execute Order 66. I believe the little detail of him dropping his helmet before the inhibitor chip takes full control over him kind of simulates him entering a state of shock the similarly to when people say their life flashes before their eyes when they are about to die. It is a moment where they are so stunned they cannot react/comprehend what is actually happening for a brief moment. I feel like this is something that flew completely under the radar to a lot of people because I haven't really heard anyone bring it up or mention it. The argument that Rex resisted the chip because he had a close relationship to Ahsoka can be made; however, I feel like the same thing could've & should've happened to other clones, when order 66 was first given to them, but that didn't happen. An example I can give is Cody himself, I would say Cody did have a close relationship similar to the one Rex had for Anakin & Ahsoka. They had a relationship of upmost respect for one another and would give their lives for each other. You could make the argument that Rex and Ahsoka had a closer relationship than Cody and Obi-Wan did, but you can also argue that Cody spent more time with Obi-Wan than Rex did with Ahsoka, especially after she left the Jedi order, thus making Cody and Obi-Wan's relationship closer in a way. However, in the end, Cody didn't hesitate to fire at Obi-wan, and I feel like Rex being in account of Fives's tragic demise IS what primarily caused him to resist the inhibitor chip for the little while that he did. The evidence is in his demeanor: after he hears the order, he freezes a bit, drops his helmet almost in a way of disbelief, as if for a moment he's subconsciously devastated, and feels possible self disappointment (you can come to this conclusion by his hand motion when he drops his helmet; it's almost a similar hand motion to when people accept defeat or hopelessness in something before falling to their knees). He then turns to Ahsoka and when he aims at her his hands are , and you can is as if he knows he is about to do something he knows is wrong and can't control himself. Then he says "Find him... find him... Fives... find him.." and then proceeds to fire after he mentally cannot take it anymore and can no longer resist the inhibitor chip. The biggest takeaway from this is , and at this point Rex's emotions are unraveling and spiraling as order 66 is happening. During the time, it's almost like Rex experienced a separate, distant thought where he maybe wants to "find Fives" to apologize for not believing in him/taking him seriously back when he first tried to warn Rex and Anakin.
This is just something I've always thought about back when season 7 first came out, but at the end of the day it's just a theory as it is not clearly explained why Rex resisted the inhibitor chip.
I totally agree with you! Idk how this isn’t discussed more and it’s definitely interesting to think about how Rex could’ve been thinking about Fives once his inhibitor chip activated
Thank you for writing and explaining all of that! I’m in complete agreement. I think that explains the opportunity created for Ahsoka rather than their bond. Many clones shared a bond with their Jedi generals, but few knew all of the details of the Clone conspiracy as Rex did.
Definitely, the simple fact he mentions Fives, shows that he pieced it all together in that moment
@@norristhom it was definitely a heartbroken moment for him :(
@@j-mlion3424 all of the clones deserved better, it’s even more sad when you think about how Echo was the only one from Domino squad to see everything unfold the way it did; especially when he came back only to realize he was the only Domino squad member left
Finally we can see Cody after revenge of the sith I hope we hear him Mention obi-wan and how he shot him down thinking he killed him and how he feels about betraying him
Seeing that scene with Codey in the trailer gave me such OG Battlefront 2 Attack on the Jedi Temple by the 501st it's so cool and I wonder if we're going to see a Clone Uprising like in Legends and if Codey will try to look for Kenobi
I think it depends on the bond. Anakin and Ashoka are more affectionate than other Jedi and The bad batch really didn’t depend on Jedi that much and always did their own thing.
With no Jedi around for a couple years the clones would have time to think about what they had done and why.
Personally I prefer Cody being loyal to the Empire. He always seemed like a by the book guy to me. Plus his line "I wish the Order came before I give him his bloody lightsaber" is just hilarious.
Wait where is this from? It seems familiar but I can't pinpoint where it's from
@@mamienovacuisine I'm 99% sure that's either from one of the EP3 novelizations(there are 2 of them) or the Rise of Darth Vader novel. But I'm not entirely certain, it might be from another book that I don't remember.
I think the line is in Cody's Wookiepedia page(Legends version) so you can probably find the source there. Sorry for the inconvenience. It's been a while since I read the books.
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I know they’re clones, but what made them such good fighters is that they were unique in their emotions. This uniqueness resulted in clones forming close attachments to Jedi and having the independence to resist order 66 on some level. As well as this, I think the chips wear out over time.
I think captian Rex followed in Anakins footsteps and developed many attachments, even though it wasnt popular with the Kaminoains. That's why he struggled with order 66. In the case of Cody, we see him and Obi Wan have similar personalities, putting the rules first, and being wary of those attachments. Thays why Cody didn't hesitate to give the order
2:42 I always thought in my head canon that the clones could tell the difference of how they were treated when the Jedi were around vs. how they were treated when the empires around.
I was hoping Cody would remain the foil to Rex and remain a bad guy (like he did in Legends, he stayed loyal to the Empire), but it seems they’re setting up a redemption thing for him.
I agree he needs to stay Imperial. Order 66 loses its sting when every favorite Clone defects.
1. With Crosshair, I agree that his already strong views and clarity of vision are a major driver of his personality, but when the chip activated it dovetailed with those traits. Also, it's important to keep in mind that his chip activated immediately after Order 66, with Wrecker's chip being the next chip that activated only after repeated and significant head trauma. Also, the Kaminoans were able to augment Crosshair's chip's effects on the clones when it came to loyalty and following orders. A potential story arc for Crosshair is that he continues to receive the treatments, however, diminishing returns become a factor as well as increasing brain damage that will ultimately lead to his premature death.
2. As for the rest of the clones, we look again to Wrecker when his chip activated, saying that any clone in violation of Order 66 was to be terminated. This suggests a failsafe mechanism; the Kaminoans and Sidious must have realized there was only a given percentage of clones that would follow Order 66 without question, but there were going to be failures. So they hedged their bets, and it was easy, since an overwhelming majority would follow orders. At the same time, though, the effect would not be equal among the clones, nor would it be permanent which is why they implemented project War Mantle so quickly.
To be honest, I think that Cody should stay imperial or maybe a showdown with him and Rex. I think some redemptions in Star Wars are a little overrated.
It’s Disney. Cody’s probably gonna stop crosshair from doing something Bad then He turns good again and probably dies in Rex’s arms.
@@nickjcirillo would be satisfying
Slick: Only a Jedi would ask that. It's the Jedi who keep my brothers enslaved. We do your bidding. We serve at your whim.
I hope Cody doesn't defect. I like him in the Clone Wars so much, but there's just something about him continuing to be completely loyal to the system that is such an important Cody trait.
Honor is a huge Cody trait as well. And your prediction fell through, he went Awol but it was done so well
@@SMD2x Yeah... They definitely wrote that in one of the few ways that I would be happy with. Just the quietly slipping out, almost out of shame of not fitting in to the system anymore.
I just really expected him to be the tug-at-our-heartstrings character, who we all love from the Clone Wars but have to see work for the empire since we didn't really have any connection with Crosshair.
@Cole Smith that would've been heartbreaking to watch. But I knew as soon as he gave his word and the officer gave the kill order I knew he was heading for the hills
Cody was actually probing Crosshair if he can confide with him about his doubts on the Empire. He was already on the path of desertion, the incident on Desix was the nail in the coffin.
1 gen clone vs all the next gen clone maybe
I hope Cody's story stays similar to legends and he stays loyal to the empire, maybe even becomes a dark trooper
I think a lot of clone troopers joined the rebel alliance that's why in return of the jedi they were ready to attack the second death star we know rex was in the battle of Endor I think a lot the clone ended up training the rebels.
just had a thought while watching the vid. what happened to clones who were sleeping when order 66 was executed? Did the chip make them wake up? Or did they just wake up the next day like ayo the f** is going on
Commander Cody was always my favorite clone as a kid for some reason. I hope he gets some solid development one way or another.
I think a big part of which clones resisted order 66 is based on which Jedi they were with. Anakin and Ahsoka had an atachment to Rex and the 501st where as most Jedi saw the clones as troops not as friends. That is why imo very few clones could even resit order 66, bc many clones did not have a relationship that was more important than following orders.
I'd say Cody is increasingly haunted by his carrying out Order 66 on Obi Wan. I believe as of now he thinks Kenobi's dead. I'd imagine he eventually learns he's alive, and sets out to make amends however he can.
Can't wait for this.
Did you notice sereno in the trailer?
I think that they used Jango as the template for the clones is the reason that some are able to overcome the control of that chip. As we can see with Boba, they have a strong will and are prone to be driven by their emotions.
This is why I choose to believe Bounty Hunter is still canon. Bounty Hunter shows the sheer, insane resolve that Jango had. He was strapped into a torture chair by a Dark Side cult, tortured for who knows how long, and still not only refused to spill the beans on who hired him, but even managed to escape out of it, and engage the cult's Dark Jedi leader in a 1v1 duel and fucking win.
Cody turning good or even removing inhibitor chip would be so cool to see in bad batch.
Goes completely against his character, he’s very loyal and obedient.
then i think rex would probably find him and make him remove it
Being extremely loyal and obedient doesn't mean that he does it with everyone, wth. The Empire is BAD and he can sense that, he's smart, and being loyal means to know to WHO you're loyal too, and which are the bad ones.
@@yodel7781 the empire isn’t bad. That’s completely subjective. From Cody’s point of view the empire is what he serves and after letting his inhibitor chip take over without any resistance his mind will be fully committed to the empire. Look at Wrecker in the Bad Batch, when Rex tries to have all their chips removed and the chip actually takes over Wrecker’s mind. Wrecker is a defective soldier who has no real loyalty to the empire as it is not the republic.
@@cherm722 Yes, the Empire is bad and and if you see it any otherwise, please get away. So, yes, Cody serves the Empire, of course he is loyal to them, I'm talking about his questioning. In the beginning and so on he definitely served them without hesitation. Then, when the chip got weaker, or what the reason is, there is one as we see, he questions everything like Howzer did. He is still Cody, with his memories and all, he is just immensely blinded. So when that happens, of course he won't show loyalty to something he discovers as actually bad, I'm very excited for that. His interactions with Bad Batch and Crosshair and I really hope Rex too will be so awesome.
I hope Cody and Rex team up again
Cody’s armor being gray in the trailer may support your theory. Could be a symbolic use by the writers of him continuing to question what side he may lean on throughout the season.
I think its the light
Like it makes cody grey
I really hope that he turns back to the light side, in the leaked trailer at celebration cody asked crosshair if the empire is really making the galaxy better and crosshair says that they are soldiers and do what needs to be done
I think some clones have a stronger will than others, based on situations or conditions during the War. (Rex also created his own unique set of armor, which showed a great deal of individuality and initiative, traits that Anakin always fostered in him.)
Or perhaps a few clones have a small amount of Force sensitivity which lets them fight the chip.
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I like to think the clones accelerated aging had an effect. Maybe clones produced after the first battle of geonosis were more likely to execute the order because they were essentially fresh out the box compared to clones produced prior to the battle. And maybe as they got older, the neurons in their brain or however the chip functioned slowed down to would fire irregularly and that’s why some clones questioned/resisted the order
It's actually interesting to see this take on the clones. I hope we get to see these clones filled with regret, also witb some ptsd from the war. No one won but Palpatine
didnt crosshair say he had his chip removed?
Rex not only basically knew about what the chips could do, aside from Anakin he probably knew the most about Palpatine’s grand plan without knowing, so I think that’s how he was able to resist executing order 66 for a few seconds
Rex was aware of the chip after what happened with Tup & Fives, i always felt the awareness of it was what gave Rex his ability to pause the extra second, that's why he said Five's name he knew what was happening
*I believe that Cody may defect, but the come back. There's always someone going back & forth from the good side to the bad side & the Force within a story. So, Crosshair may get to Cody & he'll defect, but eventually come back to the good side eventually.*
it will be interesting to see the clones questioning their orders. also, with cody, i wonder if his questioning will ever result in a change of heart, or if he will just be questioning forever. maybe his questioning will start crosshair questioning why all the clones are questoning the orders, or maybe crosshair will kill him because he starts questioning cody's loyalty after he hears cody questioning the questionable orders
The sentence questioning appears way to much here xD
Crosshair could've lied about his chip.
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Soo I think this was pretty spot on, but I don’t believe crosshair hates his brothers. I don’t believe he likes them either. I think he’s a true sociopath and just does not really have feelings. He’s a machine with a mission. Establish order and law in the galaxy and enforce it by any means necessary
Crosshair was similar to Slick.
I don’t think Crosshair hates his brothers otherwise he wouldn’t have saved them on Kamino, I think it’s more if he just wants to be on the winning team.
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It wasn't just Rex's love for Ahsoka that held his finger, it was because he knew. He knew about Fives and he knew what was happening to him, and knowing is half the battle.
If you don't know that it's an artificial chip that's filling you with the sudden desire to follow orders to the letter and execute your best friend, you might not even think to question that desire.
I have a theory, the chip had a different reualt on dome clones who were more free spirited like Rex and Greggor than those who were more by the books like wolf and Cody. I think the clones who were more by the books the chip actually and literally burned part of itself and when removed it left something like a burn marker into the clones brains to make the clones brains somewhat more complimentary even if the chip was removed as we see it wolf in rebels unlike other clones like Rex, Gregor, and maybe even howzard. So when crosshairs chip was removed after it had been a while and he still was obedient to the empire even when it was removed because one of two reasons either it burned itself into his brain when his chip was turned up and increased and it left its burn mark that way or when he was literally burned by the venator class star destroyer and it left its burn in a more physical way when it was removed from his head.
Any way its just a theory but I think it's pretty cool.
I don’t think Howzard or his mens chips where activating because they weren’t serving under a jedi general during the time of order 66 they were serving under Cham Syndulla
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I like to think that Clone Commanders didn’t need a strong command from the chip to do what they are told. Like, they are supposed to be very orders driven like Cody always was. So it could be that he has enough willpower to overcome it because he seen how most of the others have changed.
There are differences in the clone for sure, we remember an episode of Clone Wars where there was a close that escaped, married and had children of his own. I think there really are mutations or experiences that cause some of the clones to question orders, morality and even their own existence.
Cross hair hates being ordered about back in clone wars
Cross hair: good solders fallow orders
Hunter: since when?
We NEED Cody back so he can unite with Rex, Gregor, and Wolffe! But I'm assuming he dies before Rebels :(
Can't forget about Howzer, he turned against the empire and some clones did, yeah not from Order 66 but still clones are rebelling
I still think the kaminoans themselves, perhaps Nala Se made adjustments in a small percentage of the clones to make them less susceptible to the Inhibitor chips
I think he dont have a Chip anymore because he Always takes off his helmet and the other clones Not
I wouldn't call the Clones who followed Order 66 "evil". Remember they were warriors bred to protect the Republic. Palpy's spin was so good that millions of regular people believed his lies not just the Clone Troopers.
He, like Captain Howzer, will make the right decision in the end. I believe that Rex will turn him back. The chips are wearing off.
I mending an old theory of mine and another. That both Crosshair and Cody will templates for the phase 1 Dark Trooper program.
Both Cody and Crosshait will be offered the chance to forever serve the empire and become immortalized. They then receive heavy cybernetic augmentation, armor and weapons until they’re either killed or made further into phase 2 dark troopers then completely decommissioned as the phase 3 troopers are put into production. A truly sad and brutal fate for these last clones who remained loyal to the empire
I feel like that Cody is a person that will always follow orders. Rex has been developed to contrast that slightly.
I’d actually prefer if Cody stayed loyal to the empire. We barely get any villain content out of Star Wars already.
i think that cody did start questioning orders and tried to leave the empire, but as much as i want to believe that cody survived, i do not think so, i think he was killed in the attempt to do so, cuz in 'star wars rebels', rex was there but cody was not
The clones have always been some of my favorite people in the saga
I kind of want Cody to not turn good. I think him being 100% under the control of order 66 would show that not everyone can be saved.
I agree. Sure he may have questioned here and there but ultimately be loyal to the core.
Im kinda conflicted on this. 50% of me wants him to turn good and 50% of me wants him to turn bad… I mean we already get the imperial clone with crosshair and maybe cody could be more the in between clone between rex and crosshair?
I think you interpreted Crosshair’s motives wrong. He told his brothers he already removed his chip, he just likes the empire and the order.
Besides that, he doesn’t hate his brothers, he was hurt that they “left him behind”. If he truly hated them, he would’ve killed them at the end of last episode when he had plenty of opportunities. He wants his brothers to join him, but I don’t think he’ll kill them
Most likely a lot of Clones who questioned Order 66 had their inhibitor chip effects worn off moments later after Order 66 was executed.
They eluded to this in Rebels, when they went looking for Rex and Kanan was reminiscing about the order he says "later they said the were chips inside their heads that made them do it, said they had no choice" If they had the ability to reanalyze it later there would be troopers who would question it
Maybe a reason why the clones were replaced with regular soldiers is that Palpatine knew the chips would decay over time and won’t be able to override free will and independent thought.
It’s sad, but I feel like he will sacrifice himself to help the Bad Batch and/or Rex in some way
I hope the mission, Rex asks the bad batch to help him with is a mission to rescue Cody
Do we even know for sure that was Cody? I don't remember anyone actually saying his name.
Watch the extended trailer for the bad batch
That was 100% Cody.
I think it is because clones have persnaletys and can think for them selfs
I think it's a matter of 3 things... Head Injuries, leading to the chip activating pre-maturely, or then turning the chip off or weakening it enough to be overridden by the person. It could be sheer force of will, allowing someone's strong mind to fight it, as we could see with Captain Rex. Or, lastly, it could even be natural degradation because of the speed-aging of the clones...
All 3, which existed in Rex, and likely exist in Cody, could exist in 1 form or all forms in many, many other clones. This is why so many are able to at least "question." The act. It didn't say all are "AGAINST" the order, but they are at least "questioning" it, which hints at partial memory recovery or self-control being recovered by the clones, allowing their free-thinking to come back.
This is how clones could possibly be fighting the programming
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Though this different idea is maybe off kilter not sure if what is follows is maybe not how you do things, is there a forum I should relay my following idea but asking for your feedback.
My thoughts are as follows:
-if we got a Tomora Motisan or someone like this (I think that's how you spell his name) where a live action Rex and Commader Cody team up, not knowing where the other stands with the new empire, has to struggle with dealing with individual struggles, with the world changing, and having to work together to survive without the world of the jedi, after the fall. This would be the struggles between the fall of Order-66 and the rise of the New Galactic Empire. Is this struggle something new or common or something that the book of Boba has covered thus far, good enoungh?
What do you think, could it be a sample show like Andor?
Do you have any ideas on what we had seen in Kenowbi where we saw a clone trooper asking for credits, was it Rex?
Still not sure.
If you covered it, my apologies, must have missed that session you posted.
PS. Just new in devopolopment and gaming design in and interested 3rd person, I have ALL the assets from Star Wars: Uprising. Did you play this?
I'd like to convert this to PS3....err, mount it to PS3 using Unreal Engigine 5.1. It can be done.
There are multiple ways to convert an playable game to a playable version to many platforms/generations from platforms to mobile devices....
Original from Unity engine to Unreal 5.1
I'd request not to advertise this. While this won't be on STEAM or any other shared outlet. This is purely for fun.
I'll keep you posted. There be a free demo......
JAYFORGROM
PS: Those I hope you read this, I don't think you will. Your too busy.
I' m good with the that.
Sorry, was playing IM: LotB, installed the app you suggested, considered you are 3 hrs ahead & probably asleep by now (0530hrs), will chat l8tr, maybe around 1100hrs pst or 1400hrs eastern standard?!
Easy answer. Because they do!
Commander Cody was mentioned in The Force Unleashed 2. He was on Kamino, overseeing the development of stormtroopers. What will Disney shape this into?
Sadly force unleashed and legends is no longer canon
Love the content so much big man! Starting my day with a smoke and your vids is the best 💜
Rewatch the fives episodes I just did it’s crazy
I think he's going to turn againsf the empire and that will lead to other clones doing the same, which will tie in to the episode titled "Clone Conspiracy" i think that will involve a clone rebellion of sorts against the empire after theyve all had time to think and realize they were all played and manipulated by the empire and its Sith Emperor.
I sure that episode title "The Clone Conspiracy" is pilot episode of Star Wars: Cody series. It only got two Cody's Episodes. 😁
Just saw the 2 episodes from Bad batch 2!
Theory really gonna make me wait until next Monday for nerd theory 😓😓
Actually?
Is he not doing nerd theory tonight
...ORDER 66
Do you guys want cody to switch sides?
Yes!
I would love to think that Cody git past his programming and then helped his brothers. Or even help the rebellion. However, since we don’t hear it in any source, it doesn’t seem like it. If it did happen, like to think, we would’ve heard it either legends, or even at the end, of rebels when Sabine is giving like the epilogue. Sabine even mentions Rex fight in the battle of Endor. If anyone knew about Rex helping out as well, I’d like to think she would’ve mentioned it too. But I don’t know. Wishing everyone a good one.
(Potential spoilers for those who havent seen season 1) Crosshair said he had his inhibitor chip removed a long time ago. So yes he is acting according to his own free will but he was doing that during Order 66 because he agreed with the empire/sidious because he believed that the Galaxy needed order. I think he said this to during the episode prior to the season 1 finale. I think a lot of clones cody included may end up turning on the empire and lose or cody will feel regret for order 66 and help the bad batch and be killed by crosshair sadly I think this will be Cody's fate.
I love your theory’s
Early gang.
This is definitely a interesting thought lol I think that your right on this one and it could just get less strong over time. or maybe the want to be there own person helped make it weaker in some way lol. either way that a pretty cool thought. thank you for posting :D
Chances are, Crosshair still has his Inhibitor Chip and it's still activate. But it's no longer set on the same frequency that Tarkin and Nala Se set it on. The second-degree burn that Crosshair sustained on Bracca caused damages to the chip, and reverting it back to it's original frequency when Order 66 was activated. You can see that by the how he was acting towards his brothers before and after the burn.
No, but on the final episode on Bad Batch after Crosshair was knocked unconscious during the warehouse fight, they turned him on his sides and saw scar by his head, convincing them what Crosshair had said earlier about having the chip removed. But, I believe that scar is from them having increased the power of the chip in Crosshair’s head. Let me know what you think..
@@Sandrae7560 they can't tell if the chip was removed because of the burn scar that covers where the chip is. The chip isn't running at the same capacity that Nala Se set it on, it was damaged from the Jedi Cruiser engine. Crosshair literally has the same attitude he had towards his brothers before his programming was intensified.
I hope all clones rip out those Chips
I definitely think it would have a lot to do with their relationship and understanding of the Jedi. I could believe that some would hesitate, but most would not, even if they're close to their Jedi-in-charge.
I can see Cody feeling awful about "killing" Kenobi after the Order wore off because of how much he liked him, but not hesitating because he knew that Kenobi was very much an obedient to a fault Jedi. Therefore, if the Jedi had failed or betrayed the Republic, even a friend like Kenobi would have to go. I could see him swinging in one direction or the other; either questioning the Order and regretting it, or feeling bad about it but still believing it was the right thing to do.
Rex, on the other hand, had a lot of reasons to hesitate with Ahsoka. She was not only close, but wasn't technically a Jedi anymore. Even the other clones on the bridge with him and Ahsoka seemed to hesitate for a second. Since they weren't close friends with her, it's probably only on the basis that she wasn't a Jedi. It was only for a half second or so, but she was working for the Jedi, had been a Jedi, and might have defended them, so if they did hesitate, it wouldn't have been more than a second. The only thing that saved her was her friendship with Rex; which likely wouldn't have been enough to save her if she was still a loyal Jedi.
Then we have the majority of Jedi with the attitude of Mundi towards the clones. I imagine that his clones, and the ones under Jedi like him, would have felt nothing about Order 66 even long after its effects wore off. A few would have relished in it, if their Jedi Generals were particularly harsh, incompetent or callous.
The ones I can see questioning it the most would've been ones working for the likes of Plo Koon. Or ones that killed non Jedi just to get at the Jedi or because they worked for them, like in the maintenance department or whatever.
I think you fundamentally misunderstand crosshair and his motives. I don’t believe he hates his brothers at all, but he can’t bring himself to be on the run like them when he sees the empire as stability.
Trailer: Cody, "many clones are beginning to question the order"
Episode continuing the scene: Cody, "many clones are beginning to question the order..so I killed them" 💀