My 2017 3.5 averages 21.5 mpg. I live in WV with lots of hills and seldom travel highways. On a trip from D.C. to OBX, I got almost 24mpg. I also have off road tires and fox 2.0 suspension.
Technically you're right, however, one can take advantage of the refinement difference created from DI and turbo charging of Ecoboost and get great mpg at the same time, but this is not for the sport-minded driver; more for the regular commuter, weekend project doer. And so, I've figured out how to get Eco and Boost together. I don't think either NA choice could give me the 24 mpg that I'm getting. Certainly not the 5.0. If I had two identical trucks: one with the base 3.5 liter NA V6, and one with the 2.7 liter EB V6 that cost $800 more and set about commuting with each, taking turns driving; with light pressure on the gas pedal so as not to waste gas for no good reason (you know like any sane person), I'd likely get around the same mpg in both trucks or somewhere close. The NA engine is lighter, and it is efficient and so I could probably eek out around 23-24 mpg like I do in my current F150 with the 2.7 EB. commuting. It's hard to know for sure, but I'd say at least on the highway, they'd both be close. The big difference here though is refinement. That base engine would seem horrible to drive by comparison. I live in the Upper Cumberland region of TN. It's quite hilly. My truck will take on 5% grades with cruise control on and never downshift to 5th gear on days without a strong headwind. The base V6 could not do this. It would likely do that "race up the hill" phenomenon that many smaller-displacement NA engines do cruising on the highway. With my 2.7 Ecoboost-powered F150, I can acceptably accelerate from a stop, up a 2% grade, up to highway speeds and never exceed 1900 RPM. Why is this important? It's Refinement! It feels rich; it feels classy; it feels like you've got a well-engineered and expensive automobile when you're driving something that doesn't have to scream RPM to get power and torque. That's what makes Ecoboost so great! If you think driving is a sport and/or like high revs, then I'd agree that their is not much advantage to Ford's Ecoboost power trains. The 5.0 may actually return a little better mpg for those who keep the pedal down; and the same could be said for those who are dedicated towers and heavy haulers; but for those who your trucks for a little of this and a little of that and view driving as transportation and use your trucks as light-duty tools; and appreciate low and mid-range torque; then the EB's are good at both; even at the same time.
How many miles are on the truck? There is a "break in" period for the engine and that is between 2 to 3k miles. It clearly states in the manual not to measure mpgs before this time.
The ODO say nearly 800 miles. If I'm not mistaken, Ford only requires a 500 mile breaking in period in their manual. But still, it doesn't make as much of a difference as people think. These days, manufacturers usually do a lot of break in time at the factory on a dyno. There shouldn't be more than few a % increase once the vehicles is broken in.
Hey. Well, I noticed a 3 mpg difference once my 2016 F150 non ecoboost 3.5L V6 engine hit passed the 3k "break in" period. Yeah, my automotive friend told me something similar what you mentioned above, and for most vehicles that most likely the case. But, for my truck, I personally went from 16 to 19 mpgs around town after 3k.
It clearly states the "engine's break-in period" in the manual...Link: www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?bookCode=O30956&languageCode=EN&marketCode=US&viewTech=IE&chapterTitleSelected=G1644889&subTitleSelected=G1644897&topicHRef=G1593343&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=True
The 3.5 was redesigned to dual injection to save the valve fouling and the turbo cooler will only hold 1/4 of water and oil before its pulled out. But weird to see a motor shift from 1 3 5 7 9 10. Only hits 1 2 3 4 5 ect when in tow mode
As far as MPG the 3.5 likes to go about 85mph. you'll get 22-24 MPG doing that coasting out in 6th. I also want to add very succinct review. Well done.
Anyone still driving this truck? What issues have you had? I just bought a used 2017 f150 3.5 eco boost with 114,000 miles. Hoping it will last me a long time.
Mate that 10-sp transmission with a 5.0, and it will not only give you the same or better real-life mileage (you said yourself you barely made 15 mpg combined -- the EPA numbers for the ecoboost engines are fantasy), it will also last twice as long.
you are just so wrong...i've owned both...the EB is a Monster compared to the 5.0. Towing I prefer the EB3.5...it pulls so much easier and better. MPG virtually the same...but more power and advanced EB is king!!!
That's alright, because the Honda Pilot that I traded in only got 16 mpg in the city. Thing was a pig. Might as well upgrade to a livingroom couch with 375 HP. Thanks for the review brother, very informative.
Okay i know this might sound strange but my experience with my dads 2.7 eco boost f150 is when it was new it got poor mpg. But now that he's got 15k miles he gets between 19-24mpg. Iv seen him get 27mpg. His doesn't have 4x4. It just seams like the engine/transmission need to settle in. Just sharing my perspective.
The biggest problem with the Fords is the key fob. The panic alarm button is WAY too easy to set off by accident. It will even go off by its own when the key fob is in your pocket.
Ok, so I have a question here, wouldn't a transmission with more gears that changes gears more often be a bit "busier" than say a transmission with lower gears? Could more work on the transmission (changing gears more often) lead it to wear out more quickly? I'm not a mechanic, just curious lol
With more components comes more chances for failure, that is true. Service life really boils down to clutch pack surface area and the load it's intended to handle, along with effective cooling and fluid viscosity and cleanliness. If it's designed correctly there should be no reason it does not last. I have a 2006 Lincoln LS Sport with the 5R55 transmission and I have 189k miles on it. Owned it since 24k miles, I've done 2-3 partial fluid changes, and it shifts and behaves as good now as it did when I first got it. A solid design will get you a lot of service. All that said however, I would not buy a manufactures first production run of a new design of vehicles, I don't care who makes them... They are going to find issues, even if it's just software.
AutoGuide.com, why cant we see the truck taking off from a standstill to show how fast. I see a video of a truck sitting still and a guy saying it does this and that, why not show us?
The new 10 speed is amazing, but it scares the living shit out of me. Like you said at 2:20 in the video "The transmission is jumping around all over the place" When something is constantly changing and moving, things tend to break sooner than later. The transmission is in non stop change, wearing itself down. Constantly switching gears makes me cringe knowing it wont stay in one gear as my cruse control is on set to one speed. As time passes by, we will see the repercussions from this. Hopefully there are none..
Am I right that in 2018 Ford added an additional timing belt tensioner, a beefier timing chain and the turbochargers were changed to electronically controlled vs vacuum controlled?
Havent owned an EcoBoost, but would like to put this truck against a 5.0 and put them up against each other. Pound for pound towing, mile per mile driving,and rev per rev. And test both truck's reliability.
Starting and stopping are not the fuel economy robbers of the past. It's more of the common misconception now even in the age of start stop technology.
It stays in 2 H. If in inclement weather, you can switch to 4H on the fly. Not really necessary though. If your'e stuck, put her in neutral and turn it to 4L. After back up to speed, the truck will not exceed a particular RPM....reminding you to turn in back into 4H or 2H.
It's not all wheel drive, it's 4 wheel drive. Yes gas mileage will kill you if your riding around in 4H. You don't need to though. Keep it in 2 wheel drive setting until you need it.
BUYER BEWARE! For 2017, this new engine is the only one that gets mated to the new 10 speed transmission, and the only one that has dual fuel injection, combining both port fuel and direct injection for better efficiency and reliability. But this will last only for one year. In 2018, buyers can have more and better choices depending on their needs and budgets. If you don't need or want or want to pay for the top-of-the-line power train that cost well over $2,000 extra, but like these new features of ten-speed and dual fuel injection, you need to wait for 2018. Why??? In 2018, there will be five engine choices instead of only two, if you count the 3.5 liter twice (one standard power and one high output for the Raptor only) that will get these same technologies added to those engines: Dual fuel injection (for the four gas engines), mated to the ten-speed transmission, and auto start/stop (again, for the gas engines). In fact, during the Super Bowl announcement and for the next few days thereafter at auto shows, etc.; Ford announced alot of power train info for next model year. There will be a new 3.0 V6 diesel. It will be mated to the ten speed; it will likely be very expensive only in higher trims and only in extra cab configurations, because this is what the other two manufacturers have done with diesels. There will also be a reworked 2.7 liter Ecoboost that will mate to the ten speed and have dual fuel injection just like this new 3.5; it is also likely that the 2.7 will have other new and/or improved components such as newly-designed turbos. There will also be a reworked 5.0 V8 naturally-aspired engine that will be dual fuel injection and mated to the ten speed. Even the base engine will change; it will be a new 3.3 liter with dual fuel injection V6 that will be naturally-aspired and mated to the current six speed with slightly less displacement but with the same peak power and peak torque, and likely, a little flatter torque, since it'll include DI in its design. The only power trains that will be carried over from 2017 will be the two 3.5 Ecoboost versions that are new for 2017. Why is this significant??? Because any new technologies Ford offers in lower power train choices has to remain price competitive with the General, the Ram, Toyota, and Nissan, who are all getting further and further behind the motor company from Dearborn. Right now the 2.7 liter Ecoboost is around an $800-$900 premium over the base power train and the 5.0 liter is at or about $1500 over the base power train; and so Ford will have no choice to offer these new reworked power trains at prices that are competitive with the other guys' premium power trains that are low-tech by comparison. The diesel on the other hand, must only be price competitive with the Ram 1500 Ecodiesel, and the Ram Ecodiesel is currently banned and may still be banned by the time Ford's new PowerStroke comes out, so expect that the diesel start at or about the $40K+ price point, as it may be the only 1/2-ton diesel available by the time it arrives. My point is that if you like the direction Ford is going with their power trains, but you don't need the highest output of power or want to pay the highest price premium for a Ford F150 powertrain, or you'd like to see even better mpg with no sacrifices, then I'd recommend waiting until 2018 where one can get the same technologies with the V8 or the 2.7 liter that's now available with the 3.5 liter. You'll also have the advantage of finding out if these new technologies are likely going to be reliable or not in this one-year hiatus where these technologies are available only in the highest-billed power train. The 2.7 and 5.0 and even the new base engine are all likely going to return slightly higher mpg with at least the same performance or better, and there all going to include at least some of the new technologies employed with the 3.5 liter this model year.
So as someone who just bought the 2017 3.5 with 114,000 miles. First time truck owner. Do I have anything to worry about? I don’t plan on hauling heavy loads if any for a long time.
also a little more info the duramax diesel one of the best diesel out there......its also an Isuzu japan diesel GM bought there diesel program years ago GM came up with the name duramax to make it sound more american
So next time you do a review you may want to make sure that you have all of your information correct. All engine options except for the regular 3.5 V6 have had some tweaks make to give more power and will have the 10 speed transmission.
You are correct...for the 2018 F-150. I was strictly talking about the 2017 truck, where only the 3.5L EcoBoost has been changed. I'm excited to see what the 2018 F-150 Diesel is all about.
Xtwonine who has that sort of cash laying around in their bank account? Not many, apart from those wealthy accountants, politicians, solicitors, and bankers out there who use that amount of cash as something regular to snort cocaine with, or use as emergency toilet paper.
H0okemh0rns Sorry. At the time of writing that comment, it was late at night and I was thinking about wealthy bankers, politicians, solicitors, etc out there in the world with their luxury sports cars. Of course this car in particular is affordable given enough time spent at work and saving up. But of course not many have the cash laying around to just simply splash onto a new ride like this one, whenever they see fit. I know there's quite a few millionaires, or wealthy people in general, out there who visit showrooms & whatnot to purchase and collect luxury vehicles in great numbers, a bit like a child regularly visiting his favourite toy store to purchase and collect toys. I mean, that's what this car is at the end of the day, a big "toy".
@@nextlevelbjj3083 the first one I ever drove we still have at work. It has been a good vehicle. I own an explorer with a 10 speed and it’s been good too. Very fun and great highway cruisers
Not "all new", more like "thoroughly revised". They took the Gen 1 3.5 EB and addressed it's shortcomings and problem areas, resulting in a Gen 2. The Gen 1 3.5 EB was "all new".
F-150 KING OF TRUCKS By unstoppable, do you mean having turbo issues, timing chain failures, limp mode, and overheating issues? These things are complete JUNK. Look up carcomplaints.com and the only engines that have issues are the ecoboosts. This is all coming from a diehard Ford guy who is the proud owner of 2016 Special edition 5.0. I've driven that ecoboost garbage and it sucks.
Oh and the other trucks from Ram, GM , Toyo don't have issues...your a hypocrite...the EB3.5 is more popular and they sell more than the Hemi...maybe the sheer numbers are why you hear more about them and the others are liars...thats what I've noticed. GM and Ram guys, front ends fall off, rust, huge quality issues...but they keep screaming EB problems are bigger. I and 2 of my brothers and many nephews bough EB F150. No issues cept for 1 on timing chain. We all got the recall but none needed them changed...it turns out its the idiot behind the wheel!!! I've never lost a race to a Ram or GM. The 5.3 LS is a ticking time bomb and the Hemi is a Pig on gas!!! The 3 liter Eco Diesel is a POS...one neighbor of ours has been through 3 engine changes..and front end issue...get your head out of the sand!!!
see tbe problem is that ppl thibk turbo cbarging a small engine is supposs tl give u better mpg while more power but thats total bs. a turbo is adding more fuel and air so hows that gonna save gas. it.doesnt! manufacturer want u think so thought its always eaaier and wayy cheaper for them to male a small engine and slap a tirbo then a say a nice v8. this is why i eould buy a v8 over the ecoboost. no lag probably tje same mpg
a gas truck with a small motor that's where u get your good gas mileage but it would barely have enough power to pull itself so let's slap some turbos on it and work it like a dog lol
Oh wait bad idea motor is revving to high and tearing itself apart let's slap a 10 speed in it to keep the revs down and maby it'll last till warranty is up
My 3.5 runs flawlessly and is under warranty for 60k more miles....2 years after it's paid off. Sounds like your just agitated by the fact that the 6 banger can hang right there with, if not out run your V8 5.0 Coyote engine.
Well no duh that's why the EcoBoost that Eco is a different color than the Boost when you're not hitting your gas pedal the turbos are not turned on the turbo is only turn on when you hit the gas pedal so hard cuz it has to give you that extra power also I am sick of seeing so many reviews misrepresenting this truck it is not 17 in the city and 21 on Highway is 21 combined they did a testing here in Michigan in the Everest 18 and a half miles to the gallon in the city and it was 25 miles to the gallon on the highway for a combined of 21 not 21 on the highway so many people misrepresent this they need to stop making videos if they don't know what they're talking about cuz there's a lot of them out there that keeps saying 21 on Highway and that's just not true it's 21 combined combined does not mean Highway
LOLOLOL Your driving in a hilly terrain, its winter, wet roads and always in the throttle....and you wonder why only 15+ MPG...something wrong with your brain...its common sence...your in bad Gas mileage country...and don't bull shit me saying the others are better. Fill drive and refill on the same loop and do them all...the EB is best in gas mileage!!!
Over the road trucks have 18 speeds so it's only reasonable to think that smaller hauling vehicles are catching up to the big boys for the same reason the big boys have them.
drw1926 -Yeah he must've been 1 of the 5 idiots that bought a Titan this year. What a joke that 5.0L diesel Nissan Cummins Titan is. So many problems with that piece of crap. Nice try though Nissan!👎
ford lies says they can pull as much as 5.0 Cummings titan xd ...............I have been driving big rigs for 23 yrs theres a reason big rigs don't use gas engines ..........
nothing wrong with a Cummings 3500 just don't need one that big . my Baja boat only weighs 9700lbs just wanted a truck a little more heavy duty than a half ton but don't need a big diesel ..........I bet you cant tell me what transmission is used in Cummings 3500
When your shitty v8 Japanese crap runs 17 seconds in the 1/4 mile. LMAO. You have nowhere to talk, your truck is slower than my 4.0L Ranger LMAO. DEAD.
A car posing as a truck...that has 0 capabilities...frames break in 1/2 and just Fugly!!! What is it with guys claiming their Toyota's a trucks...NOPE...wont tow or haul shit!!!
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My 2017 3.5 averages 21.5 mpg. I live in WV with lots of hills and seldom travel highways. On a trip from D.C. to OBX, I got almost 24mpg. I also have off road tires and fox 2.0 suspension.
Dude that's fantastic in WV.
How long have you had it? How much do you like it? Im a new owner with 114,000
@@nextlevelbjj3083how much you pay for it ?
It's not EcoBoost, it's ECO or BOOST. Great line :-)
Technically you're right, however, one can take advantage of the refinement difference created from DI and turbo charging of Ecoboost and get great mpg at the same time, but this is not for the sport-minded driver; more for the regular commuter, weekend project doer. And so, I've figured out how to get Eco and Boost together. I don't think either NA choice could give me the 24 mpg that I'm getting. Certainly not the 5.0.
If I had two identical trucks: one with the base 3.5 liter NA V6, and one with the 2.7 liter EB V6 that cost $800 more and set about commuting with each, taking turns driving; with light pressure on the gas pedal so as not to waste gas for no good reason (you know like any sane person), I'd likely get around the same mpg in both trucks or somewhere close. The NA engine is lighter, and it is efficient and so I could probably eek out around 23-24 mpg like I do in my current F150 with the 2.7 EB. commuting. It's hard to know for sure, but I'd say at least on the highway, they'd both be close.
The big difference here though is refinement. That base engine would seem horrible to drive by comparison. I live in the Upper Cumberland region of TN. It's quite hilly. My truck will take on 5% grades with cruise control on and never downshift to 5th gear on days without a strong headwind. The base V6 could not do this. It would likely do that "race up the hill" phenomenon that many smaller-displacement NA engines do cruising on the highway. With my 2.7 Ecoboost-powered F150, I can acceptably accelerate from a stop, up a 2% grade, up to highway speeds and never exceed 1900 RPM. Why is this important? It's Refinement! It feels rich; it feels classy; it feels like you've got a well-engineered and expensive automobile when you're driving something that doesn't have to scream RPM to get power and torque.
That's what makes Ecoboost so great! If you think driving is a sport and/or like high revs, then I'd agree that their is not much advantage to Ford's Ecoboost power trains. The 5.0 may actually return a little better mpg for those who keep the pedal down; and the same could be said for those who are dedicated towers and heavy haulers; but for those who your trucks for a little of this and a little of that and view driving as transportation and use your trucks as light-duty tools; and appreciate low and mid-range torque; then the EB's are good at both; even at the same time.
*The 2017 ECOBOOST 3.5L is a WORLD CLASS engine*
*That's EPA Rated for 24 highway*
Actually it is POS.
Tommy Truth why?
Mike M
He's probably butt hurt cause he bought a shitvy, I mean a Chevy. Lol
Your reviews are excellent Steven, very concise..I Always enjoy them. Thank you !
How many miles are on the truck? There is a "break in" period for the engine and that is between 2 to 3k miles. It clearly states in the manual not to measure mpgs before this time.
That's a good point too. Kinda forgot about that with modern motors, but yeah, they all take a break in period.
The ODO say nearly 800 miles. If I'm not mistaken, Ford only requires a 500 mile breaking in period in their manual. But still, it doesn't make as much of a difference as people think. These days, manufacturers usually do a lot of break in time at the factory on a dyno. There shouldn't be more than few a % increase once the vehicles is broken in.
That's just not true about motors.
Hey. Well, I noticed a 3 mpg difference once my 2016 F150 non ecoboost 3.5L V6 engine hit passed the 3k "break in" period. Yeah, my automotive friend told me something similar what you mentioned above, and for most vehicles that most likely the case. But, for my truck, I personally went from 16 to 19 mpgs around town after 3k.
It clearly states the "engine's break-in period" in the manual...Link: www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?bookCode=O30956&languageCode=EN&marketCode=US&viewTech=IE&chapterTitleSelected=G1644889&subTitleSelected=G1644897&topicHRef=G1593343&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=True
Honestly fantastic review! Really well thought out and explained points
If you keep this truck in the boost you are risking a ticket. Lol.
The 3.5 was redesigned to dual injection to save the valve fouling and the turbo cooler will only hold 1/4 of water and oil before its pulled out. But weird to see a motor shift from 1 3 5 7 9 10. Only hits 1 2 3 4 5 ect when in tow mode
FANTASTIC review!
FORD F 150 IS THE BEST SELLING TRUCK FOR FOR MANY YEARS AND BUILT EXTREMELY TOUGH TODAY
As far as MPG the 3.5 likes to go about 85mph. you'll get 22-24 MPG doing that coasting out in 6th. I also want to add very succinct review. Well done.
Anyone still driving this truck? What issues have you had? I just bought a used 2017 f150 3.5 eco boost with 114,000 miles. Hoping it will last me a long time.
hows it been ?
how was your truck?? I just boght one of them?
Mate that 10-sp transmission with a 5.0, and it will not only give you the same or better real-life mileage (you said yourself you barely made 15 mpg combined -- the EPA numbers for the ecoboost engines are fantasy), it will also last twice as long.
They're doing that for 2018.
you are just so wrong...i've owned both...the EB is a Monster compared to the 5.0. Towing I prefer the EB3.5...it pulls so much easier and better. MPG virtually the same...but more power and advanced EB is king!!!
That's alright, because the Honda Pilot that I traded in only got 16 mpg in the city. Thing was a pig. Might as well upgrade to a livingroom couch with 375 HP. Thanks for the review brother, very informative.
Okay i know this might sound strange but my experience with my dads 2.7 eco boost f150 is when it was new it got poor mpg. But now that he's got 15k miles he gets between 19-24mpg. Iv seen him get 27mpg. His doesn't have 4x4. It just seams like the engine/transmission need to settle in. Just sharing my perspective.
It's called a break-in period. All new vehicles have are like that.
Daniel Bell actualy ford sertifyed only 3,000 miles as a break in period. Troll
Daniel Bell also 15k means 15,000 dumbdumb
Daniel Bell kay✌🏻
lol you know you can tune your 2.7, add turbos to your 3.5 and supercharger to your 5.0
Driven both 5.0 and the eco boost I like the Ecoboost it's makes u smile from.how quick it is
I wonder, how often people will be replacing battery and starter with their start/stop.
Frequently, although the battery and starter have both been beefed up. And when you have to replace them, $$$$$$.
ford has the best towing in its class
The biggest problem with the Fords is the key fob. The panic alarm button is WAY too easy to set off by accident. It will even go off by its own when the key fob is in your pocket.
Tommy Truth you got that right. Love my f150 - hate that panic button.
Yeah, why can't they make it so you have to push it two or three times to set it off instead of just once?
Didnt they change the gov MPG scoring evaluation? So it will show a loss vs last year.
dude its the dude FROM TFL!
Ok, so I have a question here, wouldn't a transmission with more gears that changes gears more often be a bit "busier" than say a transmission with lower gears? Could more work on the transmission (changing gears more often) lead it to wear out more quickly? I'm not a mechanic, just curious lol
With more components comes more chances for failure, that is true. Service life really boils down to clutch pack surface area and the load it's intended to handle, along with effective cooling and fluid viscosity and cleanliness. If it's designed correctly there should be no reason it does not last.
I have a 2006 Lincoln LS Sport with the 5R55 transmission and I have 189k miles on it. Owned it since 24k miles, I've done 2-3 partial fluid changes, and it shifts and behaves as good now as it did when I first got it. A solid design will get you a lot of service.
All that said however, I would not buy a manufactures first production run of a new design of vehicles, I don't care who makes them... They are going to find issues, even if it's just software.
AutoGuide.com, why cant we see the truck taking off from a standstill to show how fast. I see a video of a truck sitting still and a guy saying it does this and that, why not show us?
Trey Marqus YEAH IN SPORT MODE
This video shot somewhere in Pickering
It's all goodness! Always gettin hate from the n/a fan boys.
The new 10 speed is amazing, but it scares the living shit out of me.
Like you said at 2:20 in the video "The transmission is jumping around all over the place"
When something is constantly changing and moving, things tend to break sooner than later. The transmission is in non stop change, wearing itself down. Constantly switching gears makes me cringe knowing it wont stay in one gear as my cruse control is on set to one speed. As time passes by, we will see the repercussions from this. Hopefully there are none..
hi just wondering if there is a 6 seaters of 3.5 L?
yes
AutoGuide.com, thanks for correction on mpg info.
Thanks for catching it and sorry for the mistake. - Steve
Am I right that in 2018 Ford added an additional timing belt tensioner, a beefier timing chain and the turbochargers were changed to electronically controlled vs vacuum controlled?
Havent owned an EcoBoost, but would like to put this truck against a 5.0 and put them up against each other. Pound for pound towing, mile per mile driving,and rev per rev. And test both truck's reliability.
Starting and stopping are not the fuel economy robbers of the past. It's more of the common misconception now even in the age of start stop technology.
Great review, keep it up!
Does the fuel economy on the truck differ from 2H to all wheel drive?
It stays in 2 H. If in inclement weather, you can switch to 4H on the fly. Not really necessary though. If your'e stuck, put her in neutral and turn it to 4L. After back up to speed, the truck will not exceed a particular RPM....reminding you to turn in back into 4H or 2H.
It's not all wheel drive, it's 4 wheel drive. Yes gas mileage will kill you if your riding around in 4H. You don't need to though. Keep it in 2 wheel drive setting until you need it.
Being that this is an even number of gears, 10, I wonder if this a variation of a dual clutch transmission or this is still a planetary arrangement?
2017 f150 has f250 side mirrors now?
superwangwei3630 I think it's a towing package thing
more like the 2017 super duty has f150 tow mirrors, since they're exactly the same and the f150 had them first
BUYER BEWARE! For 2017, this new engine is the only one that gets mated to the new 10 speed transmission, and the only one that has dual fuel injection, combining both port fuel and direct injection for better efficiency and reliability. But this will last only for one year. In 2018, buyers can have more and better choices depending on their needs and budgets.
If you don't need or want or want to pay for the top-of-the-line power train that cost well over $2,000 extra, but like these new features of ten-speed and dual fuel injection, you need to wait for 2018.
Why??? In 2018, there will be five engine choices instead of only two, if you count the 3.5 liter twice (one standard power and one high output for the Raptor only) that will get these same technologies added to those engines: Dual fuel injection (for the four gas engines), mated to the ten-speed transmission, and auto start/stop (again, for the gas engines).
In fact, during the Super Bowl announcement and for the next few days thereafter at auto shows, etc.; Ford announced alot of power train info for next model year. There will be a new 3.0 V6 diesel. It will be mated to the ten speed; it will likely be very expensive only in higher trims and only in extra cab configurations, because this is what the other two manufacturers have done with diesels.
There will also be a reworked 2.7 liter Ecoboost that will mate to the ten speed and have dual fuel injection just like this new 3.5; it is also likely that the 2.7 will have other new and/or improved components such as newly-designed turbos.
There will also be a reworked 5.0 V8 naturally-aspired engine that will be dual fuel injection and mated to the ten speed.
Even the base engine will change; it will be a new 3.3 liter with dual fuel injection V6 that will be naturally-aspired and mated to the current six speed with slightly less displacement but with the same peak power and peak torque, and likely, a little flatter torque, since it'll include DI in its design.
The only power trains that will be carried over from 2017 will be the two 3.5 Ecoboost versions that are new for 2017.
Why is this significant??? Because any new technologies Ford offers in lower power train choices has to remain price competitive with the General, the Ram, Toyota, and Nissan, who are all getting further and further behind the motor company from Dearborn. Right now the 2.7 liter Ecoboost is around an $800-$900 premium over the base power train and the 5.0 liter is at or about $1500 over the base power train; and so Ford will have no choice to offer these new reworked power trains at prices that are competitive with the other guys' premium power trains that are low-tech by comparison.
The diesel on the other hand, must only be price competitive with the Ram 1500 Ecodiesel, and the Ram Ecodiesel is currently banned and may still be banned by the time Ford's new PowerStroke comes out, so expect that the diesel start at or about the $40K+ price point, as it may be the only 1/2-ton diesel available by the time it arrives.
My point is that if you like the direction Ford is going with their power trains, but you don't need the highest output of power or want to pay the highest price premium for a Ford F150 powertrain, or you'd like to see even better mpg with no sacrifices, then I'd recommend waiting until 2018 where one can get the same technologies with the V8 or the 2.7 liter that's now available with the 3.5 liter. You'll also have the advantage of finding out if these new technologies are likely going to be reliable or not in this one-year hiatus where these technologies are available only in the highest-billed power train. The 2.7 and 5.0 and even the new base engine are all likely going to return slightly higher mpg with at least the same performance or better, and there all going to include at least some of the new technologies employed with the 3.5 liter this model year.
Buyer beware implies there is a problem. You should've said buyer be aware.
So as someone who just bought the 2017 3.5 with 114,000 miles. First time truck owner. Do I have anything to worry about? I don’t plan on hauling heavy loads if any for a long time.
also a little more info the duramax diesel one of the best diesel out there......its also an Isuzu japan diesel GM bought there diesel program years ago GM came up with the name duramax to make it sound more american
Wait a minute, Steve from Truck KING? Steve is that u?
In my personal experience all cars and trucks come in below there mpg rating other then the Prius.
So next time you do a review you may want to make sure that you have all of your information correct. All engine options except for the regular 3.5 V6 have had some tweaks make to give more power and will have the 10 speed transmission.
You are correct...for the 2018 F-150.
I was strictly talking about the 2017 truck, where only the 3.5L EcoBoost has been changed.
I'm excited to see what the 2018 F-150 Diesel is all about.
Ok, my mistake thought you were talking about the 18 version
I Love my 2017 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost
Just paid for mine today, gonna pick it up Tuesday. Thing's a beast 👍
Now that it's been a year do you still like it? I'm thinking about getting one.
@@eddiediffer5060 How do you like it now that you've had it for a while? I'm thinking about getting one.
@@scottcunningham1331It's great truck so far...no complaints.
@@eddiediffer5060 thanks for the info. I've read bad stuff about that engine & tranny.
Seamlessly! Looks like Ford is trying to faze out the v8 f150 with this. Price point, HP rating and having the only upgraded transmission.
Concepts the 2018 will have the new 10 speed and revamped 5.0
$30K for that? That's cheap!
Xtwonine the one in the video is proably closer to 55
Xtwonine who has that sort of cash laying around in their bank account? Not many, apart from those wealthy accountants, politicians, solicitors, and bankers out there who use that amount of cash as something regular to snort cocaine with, or use as emergency toilet paper.
H0okemh0rns even if it's 0% ? Why is that stupid?
H0okemh0rns Sorry. At the time of writing that comment, it was late at night and I was thinking about wealthy bankers, politicians, solicitors, etc out there in the world with their luxury sports cars. Of course this car in particular is affordable given enough time spent at work and saving up. But of course not many have the cash laying around to just simply splash onto a new ride like this one, whenever they see fit. I know there's quite a few millionaires, or wealthy people in general, out there who visit showrooms & whatnot to purchase and collect luxury vehicles in great numbers, a bit like a child regularly visiting his favourite toy store to purchase and collect toys. I mean, that's what this car is at the end of the day, a big "toy".
Nope. Over $60k, and if you're talking Canadian dollars more like $65k+.
Craig's list search 7.3 find one ya like get it never look back
Thing is seriously seamless
What do you think of it today? Is it still as good? Any known issues? Sorry I’m a new buyer and it has 114,000 miles and I paid 28,000
@@nextlevelbjj3083 the first one I ever drove we still have at work. It has been a good vehicle. I own an explorer with a 10 speed and it’s been good too. Very fun and great highway cruisers
Ontario plates eh. Canadian production, nice.
Excellent review thanks!
All new = avoid for a couple of years. I guess people forgot all the issues the original 3.5 ecoboost had in 2011.
ya because thats when it came out ...now its a powerhouse and unstoppable.
Not "all new", more like "thoroughly revised". They took the Gen 1 3.5 EB and addressed it's shortcomings and problem areas, resulting in a Gen 2. The Gen 1 3.5 EB was "all new".
F-150 KING OF TRUCKS By unstoppable, do you mean having turbo issues, timing chain failures, limp mode, and overheating issues? These things are complete JUNK. Look up carcomplaints.com and the only engines that have issues are the ecoboosts. This is all coming from a diehard Ford guy who is the proud owner of 2016 Special edition 5.0. I've driven that ecoboost garbage and it sucks.
Oh and the other trucks from Ram, GM , Toyo don't have issues...your a hypocrite...the EB3.5 is more popular and they sell more than the Hemi...maybe the sheer numbers are why you hear more about them and the others are liars...thats what I've noticed. GM and Ram guys, front ends fall off, rust, huge quality issues...but they keep screaming EB problems are bigger. I and 2 of my brothers and many nephews bough EB F150. No issues cept for 1 on timing chain. We all got the recall but none needed them changed...it turns out its the idiot behind the wheel!!! I've never lost a race to a Ram or GM. The 5.3 LS is a ticking time bomb and the Hemi is a Pig on gas!!! The 3 liter Eco Diesel is a POS...one neighbor of ours has been through 3 engine changes..and front end issue...get your head out of the sand!!!
SilverRaven1959 well said
Dude, it's a fat ass quad cab truck with 470 lbft of trq!! I'd say 16 mpg in city is good.
I get 19.5 in the city with mine.
see tbe problem is that ppl thibk turbo cbarging a small engine is supposs tl give u better mpg while more power but thats total bs. a turbo is adding more fuel and air so hows that gonna save gas. it.doesnt! manufacturer want u think so thought its always eaaier and wayy cheaper for them to male a small engine and slap a tirbo then a say a nice v8. this is why i eould buy a v8 over the ecoboost. no lag probably tje same mpg
a gas truck with a small motor that's where u get your good gas mileage but it would barely have enough power to pull itself so let's slap some turbos on it and work it like a dog lol
its asin transmission japan transmission that's what ram use for 3500 its the same transmission in my titan
0:42 pun intended or no? 😂
Oh wait bad idea motor is revving to high and tearing itself apart let's slap a 10 speed in it to keep the revs down and maby it'll last till warranty is up
My 3.5 runs flawlessly and is under warranty for 60k more miles....2 years after it's paid off. Sounds like your just agitated by the fact that the 6 banger can hang right there with, if not out run your V8 5.0 Coyote engine.
Well no duh that's why the EcoBoost that Eco is a different color than the Boost when you're not hitting your gas pedal the turbos are not turned on the turbo is only turn on when you hit the gas pedal so hard cuz it has to give you that extra power also I am sick of seeing so many reviews misrepresenting this truck it is not 17 in the city and 21 on Highway is 21 combined they did a testing here in Michigan in the Everest 18 and a half miles to the gallon in the city and it was 25 miles to the gallon on the highway for a combined of 21 not 21 on the highway so many people misrepresent this they need to stop making videos if they don't know what they're talking about cuz there's a lot of them out there that keeps saying 21 on Highway and that's just not true it's 21 combined combined does not mean Highway
Just replaced my transmission, $8650 at 170K ouch!
Nice truck
#2.7ecoboost is better!
It is less complicated but still should be avoided.
How exactly?
but not faster
LOLOLOL Your driving in a hilly terrain, its winter, wet roads and always in the throttle....and you wonder why only 15+ MPG...something wrong with your brain...its common sence...your in bad Gas mileage country...and don't bull shit me saying the others are better. Fill drive and refill on the same loop and do them all...the EB is best in gas mileage!!!
seamlessly ---
Next thing you know ford will have 20 speed lol
Over the road trucks have 18 speeds so it's only reasonable to think that smaller hauling vehicles are catching up to the big boys for the same reason the big boys have them.
Having split gears in a half ton pick up truck would be useless and stupid
Yes, with a 1 liter engine with 6 turbos on it.
I got a v8 energy drink ad...
Beauty
that truck is not 30k its more
to properly review a truck u need big white guy - that guy !!!
LMFAO right . Good ole Canadian boy !
hold the door
"Now with 10 speeds, and lower fuel economy than ever before! EcoBoost. From Ford!"
Holy shit...did you actually buy one of those butt-ugly-assed Titans? Damn...I was wondering who would buy that crap.
drw1926 -Yeah he must've been 1 of the 5 idiots that bought a Titan this year. What a joke that 5.0L diesel Nissan Cummins Titan is. So many problems with that piece of crap. Nice try though Nissan!👎
What kind of gas mileage are you getting in that Nissan?
ford lies says they can pull as much as 5.0 Cummings titan xd ...............I have been driving big rigs for 23 yrs theres a reason big rigs don't use gas engines ..........
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bullshit my Nissan titan xd with a Cummings has 555 TQ
Its k. You couldnt afford a 3500 Cummins..so you got the cracking frame Nissan junk.
nothing wrong with a Cummings 3500 just don't need one that big . my Baja boat only weighs 9700lbs just wanted a truck a little more heavy duty than a half ton but don't need a big diesel ..........I bet you cant tell me what transmission is used in Cummings 3500
Whats a cummings anyway? Talking shit but cant even spell the name of the thing you're defending lmao
go to bed kid.............its past your curfew
When your shitty v8 Japanese crap runs 17 seconds in the 1/4 mile. LMAO. You have nowhere to talk, your truck is slower than my 4.0L Ranger LMAO. DEAD.
ford focused loool
i give all your reviews a thumbs down before the videos start. its just a force of habbit.
ill get the tacoma or tundra
Comes with free sushi...
LOL...sure. Have fun explaining your drum brakes every time someone asks "WTF?".
Jeremy Red Smart choice
A car posing as a truck...that has 0 capabilities...frames break in 1/2 and just Fugly!!! What is it with guys claiming their Toyota's a trucks...NOPE...wont tow or haul shit!!!
SilverRaven1959 exactly. Get either a Ford, Chevy, or ram. The big three or nothing.
Fix Or Repair Daily = FORD or Found On Road Dead...lol... I wouldn't buy a Ford if my life depended on it...
Who cares? Then go buy your cheap import or inferior Chevy / Dodge and quit whining about things you won't buy.
GMs and Dodges are imports ;)
Sure sign of a Ram owner LOL. They hate us cuz they ain't us.