This is actually nuts Nick! The fact that you can fly this Apex 5” in your backyard with decent success is saying a lot! Lightweight allows control like no other. Full sized full weight quads would have quite the difficult time doing the same thing.
I just bought a set of these Emax Eco II 2004 3000KV motors. Can't wait to get them delivered and soldered up. They're cheap but their data sheet out-performs every other motor in this size. Great flying. Thanks for the heads up.
Great review as always, great to see some hdzero bnf coming out. The putty in the motors is just some epoxy to protect and hold the windings in place. Not a totally uncommon thing for manufacturers to do, especially on larger motors. Usually clear epoxy so you don't notice it.
Yeah, that's what I kept thinking - that thing looks HUGE for a 3.5". Sure enough, it's the 5" even though Nick keeps calling it 3.5". On the other hand, Nick blasting around the back yard with a 5" quad is impressive! :)
not a bad addition to the EMAX line. Things I have heard about the use case for this drone is for racing with a lighter weight quad = less breakage since it is lighter (less mass during impact), or as your first race quad, per Jon E5, makes sense.
Hi Nick. I have been enjoying flying different size quads for awhile. And 3.5in quads are fun , I built 3, and I like flying them. But I don't fly them in tight spots like you did. Yes a crash video. LOL I guess I'm not going to be able to purchase it, I'm still analog. Building one is my only way to get one. Now for the price tag, $430 for a quad is outrageous.! Thanks again for the video and information.
Great review Nick! In regards to racing, there is a trend for light weight racing quads that can keep up with the 6s beasts. There are a bunch of us flying Ultralite 5" racers that come in around the same weight as this 3".
You know what BotG? it’s not only the HDzero, I feel even the analog videos Mr. Nick posts are as good as HD. I don’t know how he’s able to get such crisp dvr recordings! and he uses the Orqa FPV One if I’m not wrong.
@@frankcastillo8869 25.4mm per inch makes 75mm apron 3inch. 75mm convention from my understanding is motor post to motor post (his favourite size build). 65mm is the smallest whoop, 75mm is one size up.... isn't it?
I am wondering if they made it so light due to FAA regs starting next month which says anything manufactured has to be remote id compliant or not require registration.
I'm sure they can find a way to shave 3-4 grams off that frame (maybe start with titanium screws), so that you could use those other packs to give it more flight time.
awesome vid Mr Burns, unfortunately I don't have hdzero yet.. however I just received my evoque 5x today and put a couple packs thru it, holy mother from hell that thing rips! been flying a tiny ape (also an amazing ripper) for a week or so, and a mobula7 hd for over a month... getting back into fpv is like christmas is summer!! I'm so glad the technology in fpv is coming along so far, can't wait to see what the future brings! stay safe and have fun folks!
last week i wanted a whoop style AIO with 20A escs to replace one that burnt out, and couldn't find a decent one for less than $90 (except JHEMCU, but I tried 2 of those and both burnt out within a day.)
Yeah unfortunately the days of it being an affordable hobby are gone for the time being. I have had to set it aside for now, but the love of flight will never die inside me haha. Thank God for creators like Nick so I can live through them!
Talking about wishbone, Nick, I just remembered... I won 2 black chickens from my father's aunt when I was a kid, playing with the wishbone... (BTW, she's still alive!) Those chickens were amazing. In one of them my mother put duck's eggs. She was able to take care of them, although she almost had a heart attack the first time they got into the water. 😬 Anyway, I'm sorry... I had to share it. 😂
Nick, why are they using the Cheapest Fpv Video Antenna, that’s the same one that comes on the Emax Hawk Pro, but you can easily change them. But that one looks like you have to solder it in, unless it has a Clip Connection for it!
Amazing that you're not required to have a fence around your pool! As for this quad being suitable for racing - it really needs some sort of fin for turtle mode. And the prop mounting style isn't great for quick prop changes between races. To me this just looks like a fun quad to rip around the park. Thanks for the review Nick!
We have the fence around the yard, right now a section is missing, but that will be going up shortly. Insurance rate was decreased due to us opting for the "auto cover".
Man what a rip!!!! Awesome as always! Always knew you could rip a 5inch in that backyard, what did neighbors think of those props ripping through the air??
lol, funny how that worked out. Neighbors didn't mention any excess noise or anything. I don't tend to fly when they are outside enjoying their own spaces, I try to be a good neighbor that way. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Ah mate, you're a rare man we are lucky to have you in the community. Hope you had a blast. Reminds me of the old baby hawk 4inxh video, it was hold on to your seats sort of flight haha.
Yeah but 3000kv is weak for 3.5 inch, its perfect for 5 inch. Seems like they made it to be a 5inch first cuz the only thing different between the 2 are the props.
Saw this was a 5" instead. Now it definitely feels like a slightly slower diatone f4, which I've had. That is definitely taking away from Nick's skill of flying this huge beast in the backyard. I think the overall size of the motors is slightly small for prop size.
Fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃 I don't know about any racing class where it would fit, but... Who knows, maybe it's a good idea! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I can't say emax noted why they configured for props in. My self don't feel a difference, there could be a flight advantage I just don't notice it. The non flight advantage of props out is to potentially "kick" a branch or something headed towards the camera "out", and keeping grass or other debris from getting on the camera.
❤Just caught your post-release message before seeing this... 🤯🙌🏼 Everything about this release is even more so that impressive... no indoor footage? 😹 Candid outtake was worth watching until the end. You've totally raised the bar with this one. Peace Love and Respect.
Was really looking forward to your thoughts on this one! I started off in the hobby with an old Emax F3 bind-n-fly so I have a soft spot for the company.
Ugh, those all use proprietary parts... Even the motors have a weird mounting pattern that makes them uniquely odd. The 3.5" and larger don't use those nutty parts.
Haha. What a fun little mistake. I actually went back to the video to see if you had used the calipers on the props... No luck there. Incredible flying for a micro guy on 5inch. Now I have hopes my whooping skills can eventually translate to 5inch.
Right around 8:20 someone says "geez Louise" and then it sounds like "learn how to control dude..." Was that you or was there someone with you? It comes across as really critical to me! I mean Geez Louise is one of my long time sayings for really as long as I can even remember... so "Geez Louise, everyone is a critic" Lately I have been feeling more and more tired of controversy, the politics that we live with are pathetic, then there is Remote ID that in its worst form could really threaten a simple hobby for all of us, I mean "Geeze Louise don't we all work hard enough all week, so why don't you take away our fun time..." And of course the "which digital system should I get... We are all quite fortunate to have so much awesomeness available to us, may not be cheap but it is likely affordable for most people even if one has to save up for a little while. And watching you fly this drone around your "track" - WOW, it is so much faster, or at least my uneducated eye is telling me that it is so much faster. It was fun to watch though and it is inspiring! I for one think that this is a really big step forward for EMax, a company that a few years ago seemed to be a "bargain brand" but this seems very much like a solid mid tier product. The price, yea, hard to say but let's say that inflation has had an impact here, is the price where i should be - I am not sure, I am inclined to say no but I do not think it is a rip off either, I am not fully up on pricing as the last quad I bought was earlier this year but $400+ is a decent chunk of change. It is a very nice looking package and if HD Zero is your thing then this quad looks like a winner. I really have to say i am loving how much cleaner wiring is getting with integrated boards, etc... And by the way, your property looks very nice! May I ask 2 things - what state do you live in and what do you do for your day job... I live in IL and i am very tired of the ridiculously high taxes although if not for that I would love it here. Anyway thanks for all you do Nick, I really look forward to your videos!
lol, that "geez Louise" was me when I was flying, vs my video narration over the top. While I don't do live narrations of my flights (I often put 30+ flight before review), sometimes my "live" responses make it into the videos. Those thoughts at the end are supposed to be chopped off but the narrator in me got to long winded and didn't wrap the final thought up. I agree the time we are living in is very extreme, it feels like only the extremes get attention and that attention is often extreme as well. The extremes breads more extremes. I like to keep my location private, I have had few people that have been scary persistent in wanting to come to my house. Something I never thought of when I started making videos. I will say I am about 8 hours nearly due south of you. Most everything is likely cheaper here as its largely rural America. I have been working in IT all of my professional life. Stumbled into IT after college, went back to school to get my CIS degree in my early 30s. I was never a great student, but pretty decent at figuring stuff out, I think that is why I have stayed with IT work. Really right now is probably my retirement job, the least technical job I think I may have ever had. Weird how things go. I spent a year in a large metro area in 1999 (Y2K scare time). While it was a great time to be in IT ($$), I found a big city didn't suit me, so I moved to a much smaller "town" very close to where most of my family had migrated to years ago. Most of my adult life I have had second jobs, not to stuff the bank account but rather something to fill my time with and generally things I enjoyed. I am pretty fiscally conservative, don't need much to keep me happy and fulfilled. It has worked out well as I hope to retire before all the kids are off to college. I want to go bother them in college as much as I can :) Our backyard is coming along very nicely. We will be done with this years projects in the next week or two. We need to replace the fence and build something to cover the pool equipment, but that can wait. Projects can be exhausting even when I am not doing the work. :) I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment, leaving a bit of yourself out on the wild internet as well ;)
@@NickBurnsFPV Hi Nick, I completely respect and understand the privacy issue, even though you are on video you and everyone and anyone deserves privacy and to not be hassled in any way. that is why I only asked about what state but no worries it is just like I said here where I live it is awesome, I am hour or 2 from the city so close enough, nice rolling hills, the fall is coming my favorite time of the year! But yea, this government locally and statewide - what a bunch of crooks! So corrupt, our house of rep's is an absolute joke with business being handed to friends, relatives, some shady as hell businesses that the reps own that somehow get the benifits of new laws or new budgets being spent... kind of like Pelosi who somehow can trade the stocks better than Warren Buffet!!! Yea, nothing to see there... Anyway It is one of the reasons I have been personally reluctant to put any videos up here. Also I am very happy for you, working second jobs, etc... it really sounds like you deserve some great stuff. But since people misinterpret things so easy, read into things, add in content that was never said... I just want to say that anyone and everyone deserves to live decently nowadays, we are just way too advanced to not have that be the case. yea, I get other parts of the world that are quite poor... I really don't have answers and don't want to open a can of worms, again i just feel like there is enough "wealth" in this world that people should at least have clean drinking water! Yikes. A co-worker has a private charity that he started and every year he visits places and brings them water and water management technology to collect, distribute, clean and filter the water and the equipment is paid for, the installs, everything is paid for. I was very impressed and since then it motivated me to have taken action myself... I am super grateful for everything that I have and that we have here in the good old USA. people should remember that sometimes. Geez Louise! Or I will take a chance, if you are a Rick and Morty fan - Eek barba durkle! Cheers internet friend!
Email fan,not sure it's better than my 3-4 in.twig ,actually think if had made that a top battery mount be better,just hadn't seen advantage of like a 2.5 or 3.5 in.,although believe those sizes be great film/freestyle
I own the DJI version of both of those awesome quads. This looks similar to the Happymodel Crux35 HD. It has a Caddx Vista in it and is only $241 at RDQ! I got it for that with a $150 gift card... And used it to get a Vista with a Nebula Pro Nano, with change left over! Lol Such a deal! It only weighs 108g! A super lightweight 3.5" Toothpick ripper! It totally scoots too! Super fast and very maneuverable! It's so fast I haven't been able to open it up at the park full of trees that I've flown it in. Did at the open field and it RIPS! What a bargain! This EMAX is spendy! 🙄 Even my Babyhawk 2 HD with a Vista and a Nebula Pro was only $359 with Crossfire! 😎🤘 They can be found at bargain prices now, if you look.... 👍
@@jimmos yeah, me too! I think it needs a good tune or at the least, a new set of props. Do you have the Cinetar Emax 3.5 " props that came stock with the Babyhawk 2 HD? That's be something easy to swap to see if it helps with all that jello. I think I'll do a dump of the tune, then flash betaflight 4.3 and try it stock. Then try a preset. I feel those presets are gonna be a key benefit of 4.3... especially as we get more and more presets! What a great feature! You buy a quad, it doesn't fly great, you choose the preset for that quad, or similar quad, and you fly great. I hope it gets to that! I bet props or 4.3 and a preset fixes it. Then, if that doesn't do it, I'll flash to Emuflight. Where do you live? I'm in the Portland, Oregon area.
Hey Nick, have you thought about planting something where the swing set used to be? Maybe an evergreen tree or bush so it will keep it's leaves so they don't go in the pool. Evergreens are great! Will give you something nice to look at in the winter and spring, other than bare branches. Are people racing these in countries that require under 250g? Hmmm, I don't get this quad?! Using those skinny batteries isn't the best, that's for sure! They kinda such when compared to the fat square ones. I love my Babyhawk 2 HD. It comes in at 141g with the Caddx Vista inside and the Nebula Pro. Again at nearly 185g, I don't get this quad? Awful small lipo needed to stay under 250g. Hmmm.... Oh well, at least it's a 3.5" or larger, so it doesn't use those proprietary parts that their smaller quads they make use. I won't buy those. Even the motors have an oddball mounting pattern. 👎 I love how the Emax Babyhawk 2 HD is fast, probably not this fast, but it does weigh about 44g less. It also freestyles great, and can fly long range flights of over 20 minutes with a li-ion battery! It really will designed and seems to have more off a definite place than this puzzling quad. This one's kinda spendy too! Again, I don't get this quad....oh well. 🤷😎🤘
We do have a plan for some evergreen type trees, fence and possible something in the space the swing set used to be. That will likely be in the spring. We are pretty excited to be done with the different projects and enjoying the space before we jump into the next phase.
@@NickBurnsFPV A quick question please. Trying to bind and update my Crossfire nano receiver for my new Fractal DJI whoop! ;) I flashed EdgeTX a while back. I go to update and bind that receiver and first there's nothing in the Lua scripts area on my QX7. I got to where Lua scripts should reside and nothing, but an old.scripts folder is there. I copy the old scripts into the new Edgetx scripts folder. Go to update, and all Lua scripts are now there, but I still can't get Nano receiver updated or bind it. Any ideas what's next in troubleshooting this? Thanks Nick! :)
@@KOrnhOliO1 I don't use crossfire much, my curiosity is if this is a recent issue I was hearing about with crossfire and the firmware mishaps. Are you running agent lite on the radio? I see that the TBS website notes Agent Lite for edgeTX. They also have the Agent Web, touted as the best method to ensure crossfire is on the most recent versions.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, recent issue after I upgraded to EdgeTX. The receiver is wirelessly updated from the QX7. Nothing happens. Can't bind it to the QX7 either. It's from a Lua script. I tried Agent Web, but they have no instructions what so ever, and the controls are very primitive, and no where near obvious. To me anyway! They are coders and geeks and expect us to just open it up and it's all crystal clear. Sorry, not the case! Why are so many FPV companies allergic to good instructions?! :(
Yeah, that's getting on the pricey side, however, a year from now we may be looking back and saying these were the good old days...This one I'm going to pass on, as it's a little to big for my flying style. I'm sure it will be great for some though.
Nick? Is that the 5" version on the bench? The new 3.5 props are beefier than the old ones, and from the start it looked way bigger than it should, check that prop seize ;)
Worth checking out JonE5's video on it as he covers the whole racing aspect and who it's tailored for as they have an EMAX rep on site in the video where they're flying too. Think it would be a nice "big park" ripper with it being light and quiet but still emphasis on the BIG part. Nice video Nick 🎈🤡
Yeah, I've found in hard to find non concrete places to fly 5" quads, since I live in the suburbs of a big city. I think too many people are hung up on 5" and they too find it hard to find good places to fly those, because they require so much space. I never fly mine. That's why I prefer 3.5" and smaller. You think this is quiet, fly the only 141g Babyhawk 2 HD! It's super quiet yet also freestyles great and does over 20 minute flights on a li-ion battery. 😎🤘
None of them have sound included in the dvr, the fligh audio in my videos is from a secondary camera sitting near me brought into the video via editing.
I can't wait for the HD zero gogs to come out lol 😁 then alot of these quads with hd zero will start looking more tempting especially at that price point😳 great rip and review nick🤌🏾✌🏾
In my opinion Emax prices are always kind of high for what they are. I have not had great luck with Emax quality or durability. I have had bad quads right out of the box. Don’t buy from their web sight. If you do they will ask you to return it for repairs as opposed to sending you a new quad. They will also try to blame you for the failure. That being said the BabyHawk 2 HD is in my top 3 of all time (once I got the bugs worked out). However that battery lead location is a problem. It flies like a dream though. Emax does a good job on the tune for that drone and I never changed a thing except the rates. I like to fly slow and cruise around and get good video and that drone will fly for 10 minutes on an 850 and carry a Naked cam no problem at all.
@@NickBurnsFPV Emax has great designs and ideas, but the product is not always up to par. They are a little pricey for having quality issues. I love their products but I think twice about buying them because I always seem to have some kind of quality issue right out of the box. That BabyHawk 2 is a fantastic drone though. One of my favorites for versatility, flight time, and it's pretty quiet and smooth. You can mount a naked cam on that drone and get fantastic and even Cinematic shots. It can fly very slow or pretty darn fast. So I like them, but they let me down quite a bit.
@@Nine_883 understandable, I would hope Emax QC and support would be of the higher tier. I think more and more companies are allowing support to take a backseat. Support can be tricky as well. Sometimes I see FB postings asking for support where the OP didn't contact/email the company support. Or even yet, some have and then move to public support requests as they didn't get a response in the official communication method. Support is often an individual doing the job where it likely needs a team or at least two.
@@NickBurnsFPV Support for me was send an email then wait until the next day for a reply. Most of them are that way because of the time change from China, but I was dealing with the USA office in California and the time change was only 2 hours. So yes one person is not enough. Emax is very popular on Amazon and they sell a lot of beginner kits. They need more support personnel. The best support I have ever had from a drone company was my very first drone and it was a Holy Stone $49 Amazon special. I quickly bought several more Holy Stone products and although their products were generally less than stellar they were always very helpful and would send you a new drone if you even mentioned sending it back to Amazon. They don't do FPV as far as I know, but in general they are overpriced and the quality is questionable, but the customer service is outstanding!!
This is actually nuts Nick! The fact that you can fly this Apex 5” in your backyard with decent success is saying a lot! Lightweight allows control like no other.
Full sized full weight quads would have quite the difficult time doing the same thing.
Wow, did I get it wrong. So sorry for creating this confusion. Feel free to throw pies my way.
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Too much for backyard for sure, that's the 5 inch version! Good job keeping it under control in such a tight space.... oufff
I just bought a set of these Emax Eco II 2004 3000KV motors. Can't wait to get them delivered and soldered up. They're cheap but their data sheet out-performs every other motor in this size. Great flying. Thanks for the heads up.
BEAST !!! 5 inch rippin in the backyard !!!
Great review as always, great to see some hdzero bnf coming out. The putty in the motors is just some epoxy to protect and hold the windings in place. Not a totally uncommon thing for manufacturers to do, especially on larger motors. Usually clear epoxy so you don't notice it.
Looks huge for a 3.5", sure that isn't the 5"?
Yeah, that's what I kept thinking - that thing looks HUGE for a 3.5". Sure enough, it's the 5" even though Nick keeps calling it 3.5". On the other hand, Nick blasting around the back yard with a 5" quad is impressive! :)
Seriously!!! Per Albert Kim, I think he said it was actually a 3.6" Prop, I never new 0.1" can look so huge!!!! lol
It's a 5 inch prop. But everyone still thinks this is a "great" review? LOL.
not a bad addition to the EMAX line. Things I have heard about the use case for this drone is for racing with a lighter weight quad = less breakage since it is lighter (less mass during impact), or as your first race quad, per Jon E5, makes sense.
Hi Nick. I have been enjoying flying different size quads for awhile. And 3.5in quads are fun , I built 3, and I like flying them. But I don't fly them in tight spots like you did. Yes a crash video. LOL I guess I'm not going to be able to purchase it, I'm still analog. Building one is my only way to get one. Now for the price tag, $430 for a quad is outrageous.! Thanks again for the video and information.
Great review Nick! In regards to racing, there is a trend for light weight racing quads that can keep up with the 6s beasts. There are a bunch of us flying Ultralite 5" racers that come in around the same weight as this 3".
What is your antenna set up goggle side? you have the best reception on hdzero.
You know what BotG? it’s not only the HDzero, I feel even the analog videos Mr. Nick posts are as good as HD. I don’t know how he’s able to get such crisp dvr recordings! and he uses the Orqa FPV One if I’m not wrong.
What’s equally amazing is that he was on 25mW the whole time.
Nick thats clearly the 5inch version they have sent you. Great flying to keep in in your yard . 👌
Why does he keep referencing it as the 3.5. It's obvious it's a 5 inch. Come on Nick! Lol. Still a great review
the dude only really flys 75mm, anything bigger all looks the same to him.
@@doccock100 7 inch is the same as 75mm!
how does he not know what he is flying?
@@frankcastillo8869 25.4mm per inch makes 75mm apron 3inch.
75mm convention from my understanding is motor post to motor post (his favourite size build). 65mm is the smallest whoop, 75mm is one size up.... isn't it?
I am wondering if they made it so light due to FAA regs starting next month which says anything manufactured has to be remote id compliant or not require registration.
Great review Nick! Different animal you have there. Very interesting, something to think about 🤔🤙
I'm sure they can find a way to shave 3-4 grams off that frame (maybe start with titanium screws), so that you could use those other packs to give it more flight time.
awesome vid Mr Burns, unfortunately I don't have hdzero yet.. however I just received my evoque 5x today and put a couple packs thru it, holy mother from hell that thing rips! been flying a tiny ape (also an amazing ripper) for a week or so, and a mobula7 hd for over a month... getting back into fpv is like christmas is summer!!
I'm so glad the technology in fpv is coming along so far, can't wait to see what the future brings!
stay safe and have fun folks!
I almost fell back when I saw the price. These companies wouldn’t last long on these prices.
last week i wanted a whoop style AIO with 20A escs to replace one that burnt out, and couldn't find a decent one for less than $90 (except JHEMCU, but I tried 2 of those and both burnt out within a day.)
Yeah unfortunately the days of it being an affordable hobby are gone for the time being. I have had to set it aside for now, but the love of flight will never die inside me haha.
Thank God for creators like Nick so I can live through them!
I see how you got this mixed up, the FC does look like a 3 inch FC
Talking about wishbone, Nick, I just remembered... I won 2 black chickens from my father's aunt when I was a kid, playing with the wishbone... (BTW, she's still alive!)
Those chickens were amazing. In one of them my mother put duck's eggs. She was able to take care of them, although she almost had a heart attack the first time they got into the water. 😬
Anyway, I'm sorry... I had to share it. 😂
Maybe I'm crazy... but that looks like the 5inch version. Those 2004 motors looks really small on those props.
That has to be a 5in version. Just go on their web site and look at the photos.
I was thinking that too. Looks huge
It's a 5inch prop. OMG...
Nick, why are they using the Cheapest Fpv Video Antenna, that’s the same one that comes on the Emax Hawk Pro, but you can easily change them. But that one looks like you have to solder it in, unless it has a Clip Connection for it!
Hey Nick, I have the crux35...is this as good or better?
this one is definitely better because it's a 5 inch.
Love it Nick. Tricked you into flying a 5 inch apparently 👍. Pretty neat quad. Great flying as always
Yea, emax apparently intended to send the 5inch, which is odd, I will certainly be more explicit in my communication with companies going forward.
Amazing that you're not required to have a fence around your pool!
As for this quad being suitable for racing - it really needs some sort of fin for turtle mode. And the prop mounting style isn't great for quick prop changes between races. To me this just looks like a fun quad to rip around the park. Thanks for the review Nick!
We have the fence around the yard, right now a section is missing, but that will be going up shortly. Insurance rate was decreased due to us opting for the "auto cover".
All my E Max quads fly well. If I fly anything under 35 degrees I have trouble ballooning.
Man what a rip!!!! Awesome as always! Always knew you could rip a 5inch in that backyard, what did neighbors think of those props ripping through the air??
lol, funny how that worked out. Neighbors didn't mention any excess noise or anything. I don't tend to fly when they are outside enjoying their own spaces, I try to be a good neighbor that way. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Ah mate, you're a rare man we are lucky to have you in the community. Hope you had a blast. Reminds me of the old baby hawk 4inxh video, it was hold on to your seats sort of flight haha.
2004's on the 3.5 is insane for a backyard ripper. Kinda reminds of the Diatone F3.5, definately a big park ripper! Great input as always.
Doatone f3.5 the one I wanted before
Those are 5 inch props?
Yeah but 3000kv is weak for 3.5 inch, its perfect for 5 inch. Seems like they made it to be a 5inch first cuz the only thing different between the 2 are the props.
@@jhughes2286 3000kV 6S 😈
Saw this was a 5" instead. Now it definitely feels like a slightly slower diatone f4, which I've had. That is definitely taking away from Nick's skill of flying this huge beast in the backyard. I think the overall size of the motors is slightly small for prop size.
Is this your first five inch? Great flying.
yes, in 3 or more years. Maybe 4+.
Fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃
I don't know about any racing class where it would fit, but... Who knows, maybe it's a good idea!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Is there a reason it's set up props in? Seems a bit of an odd choice in 2022.
I can't say emax noted why they configured for props in. My self don't feel a difference, there could be a flight advantage I just don't notice it. The non flight advantage of props out is to potentially "kick" a branch or something headed towards the camera "out", and keeping grass or other debris from getting on the camera.
And it looks like you can mount a vista to the top plate
As others have commented is that a 5" ?? The 3.5" props on website look fatter .
❤Just caught your post-release message before seeing this... 🤯🙌🏼
Everything about this release is even more so that impressive... no indoor footage? 😹
Candid outtake was worth watching until the end.
You've totally raised the bar with this one.
Peace Love and Respect.
Long time Emax fan...going all the way back to the Nighthawk 280 but this looks bigger than the Babyhawk which is also a 3.5".
Disappointing that they used the old whoop board. the Race v2 is more durable.
Yep 5” props 😁
Was really looking forward to your thoughts on this one! I started off in the hobby with an old Emax F3 bind-n-fly so I have a soft spot for the company.
How does this compare to the Avant Quads Avio 3.5”?
Those are 5 inch props!
Great review Nick! I'm a big fan of Emax and their Hawk line of quads. Especially the smaller babyhawks. The back yard looks beautiful man!
Ugh, those all use proprietary parts... Even the motors have a weird mounting pattern that makes them uniquely odd.
The 3.5" and larger don't use those nutty parts.
Haha. What a fun little mistake. I actually went back to the video to see if you had used the calipers on the props... No luck there. Incredible flying for a micro guy on 5inch. Now I have hopes my whooping skills can eventually translate to 5inch.
Right around 8:20 someone says "geez Louise" and then it sounds like "learn how to control dude..." Was that you or was there someone with you? It comes across as really critical to me! I mean Geez Louise is one of my long time sayings for really as long as I can even remember... so "Geez Louise, everyone is a critic" Lately I have been feeling more and more tired of controversy, the politics that we live with are pathetic, then there is Remote ID that in its worst form could really threaten a simple hobby for all of us, I mean "Geeze Louise don't we all work hard enough all week, so why don't you take away our fun time..." And of course the "which digital system should I get...
We are all quite fortunate to have so much awesomeness available to us, may not be cheap but it is likely affordable for most people even if one has to save up for a little while.
And watching you fly this drone around your "track" - WOW, it is so much faster, or at least my uneducated eye is telling me that it is so much faster. It was fun to watch though and it is inspiring! I for one think that this is a really big step forward for EMax, a company that a few years ago seemed to be a "bargain brand" but this seems very much like a solid mid tier product.
The price, yea, hard to say but let's say that inflation has had an impact here, is the price where i should be - I am not sure, I am inclined to say no but I do not think it is a rip off either, I am not fully up on pricing as the last quad I bought was earlier this year but $400+ is a decent chunk of change. It is a very nice looking package and if HD Zero is your thing then this quad looks like a winner. I really have to say i am loving how much cleaner wiring is getting with integrated boards, etc...
And by the way, your property looks very nice! May I ask 2 things - what state do you live in and what do you do for your day job... I live in IL and i am very tired of the ridiculously high taxes although if not for that I would love it here. Anyway thanks for all you do Nick, I really look forward to your videos!
lol, that "geez Louise" was me when I was flying, vs my video narration over the top. While I don't do live narrations of my flights (I often put 30+ flight before review), sometimes my "live" responses make it into the videos. Those thoughts at the end are supposed to be chopped off but the narrator in me got to long winded and didn't wrap the final thought up.
I agree the time we are living in is very extreme, it feels like only the extremes get attention and that attention is often extreme as well. The extremes breads more extremes.
I like to keep my location private, I have had few people that have been scary persistent in wanting to come to my house. Something I never thought of when I started making videos. I will say I am about 8 hours nearly due south of you.
Most everything is likely cheaper here as its largely rural America.
I have been working in IT all of my professional life. Stumbled into IT after college, went back to school to get my CIS degree in my early 30s. I was never a great student, but pretty decent at figuring stuff out, I think that is why I have stayed with IT work. Really right now is probably my retirement job, the least technical job I think I may have ever had. Weird how things go.
I spent a year in a large metro area in 1999 (Y2K scare time). While it was a great time to be in IT ($$), I found a big city didn't suit me, so I moved to a much smaller "town" very close to where most of my family had migrated to years ago.
Most of my adult life I have had second jobs, not to stuff the bank account but rather something to fill my time with and generally things I enjoyed. I am pretty fiscally conservative, don't need much to keep me happy and fulfilled. It has worked out well as I hope to retire before all the kids are off to college. I want to go bother them in college as much as I can :)
Our backyard is coming along very nicely. We will be done with this years projects in the next week or two. We need to replace the fence and build something to cover the pool equipment, but that can wait. Projects can be exhausting even when I am not doing the work. :)
I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment, leaving a bit of yourself out on the wild internet as well ;)
@@NickBurnsFPV Hi Nick, I completely respect and understand the privacy issue, even though you are on video you and everyone and anyone deserves privacy and to not be hassled in any way. that is why I only asked about what state but no worries it is just like I said here where I live it is awesome, I am hour or 2 from the city so close enough, nice rolling hills, the fall is coming my favorite time of the year!
But yea, this government locally and statewide - what a bunch of crooks! So corrupt, our house of rep's is an absolute joke with business being handed to friends, relatives, some shady as hell businesses that the reps own that somehow get the benifits of new laws or new budgets being spent... kind of like Pelosi who somehow can trade the stocks better than Warren Buffet!!! Yea, nothing to see there...
Anyway It is one of the reasons I have been personally reluctant to put any videos up here. Also I am very happy for you, working second jobs, etc... it really sounds like you deserve some great stuff. But since people misinterpret things so easy, read into things, add in content that was never said... I just want to say that anyone and everyone deserves to live decently nowadays, we are just way too advanced to not have that be the case. yea, I get other parts of the world that are quite poor... I really don't have answers and don't want to open a can of worms, again i just feel like there is enough "wealth" in this world that people should at least have clean drinking water! Yikes.
A co-worker has a private charity that he started and every year he visits places and brings them water and water management technology to collect, distribute, clean and filter the water and the equipment is paid for, the installs, everything is paid for. I was very impressed and since then it motivated me to have taken action myself... I am super grateful for everything that I have and that we have here in the good old USA. people should remember that sometimes. Geez Louise! Or I will take a chance, if you are a Rick and Morty fan - Eek barba durkle! Cheers internet friend!
Hopefully an analog version comes out soon
I didn’t even think you’d review that beast lol it’s too big , now that they adopted hdz and lrs I’m excited to see what micro craft they bring us 👍👍
Email fan,not sure it's better than my 3-4 in.twig ,actually think if had made that a top battery mount be better,just hadn't seen advantage of like a 2.5 or 3.5 in.,although believe those sizes be great film/freestyle
This might be an odd ball both in size and specs. I don't have a HDZERO RX, but I like it!
How many quads have you lost in that new pool? Might be a subject for a video.
Short answer 1.....so far. Its mostly covered when I fly though.
wild flying ... Looks like might have some potential for me in the future. although $419 is ashame
Not giving a Vista or dji option is a shame 😕
Nice review!
Nick, did you say 429 was the price for that , are they out of their FN Mind that’s about 200 more than Emax Hawk pro 5’ without the HD!
yes, at the time of the review that was the posted price.
@@NickBurnsFPV Nick, do you know how to get ELRS Configurator to install on a MacBook or iPad?
@@diggsit69 Download the dmg from the ELRS github github.com/ExpressLRS/ExpressLRS-Configurator/releases
That is a 5inch quad Nick! 😄 🤣
with 3.5inch props :)
@@NickBurnsFPV I am not convinced 😂😂
@@NickBurnsFPV you are shrinking from all the dieting if those are 3.5😀
hey nick, it would be nice to show this quad next to a babyhawk 2 and crux35
nice flying as always. it looks a very solid quad
I own the DJI version of both of those awesome quads. This looks similar to the Happymodel Crux35 HD. It has a Caddx Vista in it and is only $241 at RDQ! I got it for that with a $150 gift card... And used it to get a Vista with a Nebula Pro Nano, with change left over! Lol Such a deal!
It only weighs 108g! A super lightweight 3.5" Toothpick ripper! It totally scoots too! Super fast and very maneuverable! It's so fast I haven't been able to open it up at the park full of trees that I've flown it in. Did at the open field and it RIPS! What a bargain!
This EMAX is spendy! 🙄 Even my Babyhawk 2 HD with a Vista and a Nebula Pro was only $359 with Crossfire! 😎🤘 They can be found at bargain prices now, if you look.... 👍
@@KOrnhOliO1 yeap , i have them both too dji version. Crux35 gives me a lot of jello middle to high throttle. Babyhawk is a beast
@@jimmos yeah, me too! I think it needs a good tune or at the least, a new set of props. Do you have the Cinetar Emax 3.5 " props that came stock with the Babyhawk 2 HD? That's be something easy to swap to see if it helps with all that jello.
I think I'll do a dump of the tune, then flash betaflight 4.3 and try it stock. Then try a preset. I feel those presets are gonna be a key benefit of 4.3... especially as we get more and more presets! What a great feature! You buy a quad, it doesn't fly great, you choose the preset for that quad, or similar quad, and you fly great. I hope it gets to that!
I bet props or 4.3 and a preset fixes it.
Then, if that doesn't do it, I'll flash to Emuflight.
Where do you live? I'm in the Portland, Oregon area.
Hey Nick, have you thought about planting something where the swing set used to be? Maybe an evergreen tree or bush so it will keep it's leaves so they don't go in the pool. Evergreens are great! Will give you something nice to look at in the winter and spring, other than bare branches.
Are people racing these in countries that require under 250g? Hmmm, I don't get this quad?! Using those skinny batteries isn't the best, that's for sure! They kinda such when compared to the fat square ones.
I love my Babyhawk 2 HD. It comes in at 141g with the Caddx Vista inside and the Nebula Pro. Again at nearly 185g, I don't get this quad? Awful small lipo needed to stay under 250g. Hmmm....
Oh well, at least it's a 3.5" or larger, so it doesn't use those proprietary parts that their smaller quads they make use. I won't buy those. Even the motors have an oddball mounting pattern. 👎
I love how the Emax Babyhawk 2 HD is fast, probably not this fast, but it does weigh about 44g less. It also freestyles great, and can fly long range flights of over 20 minutes with a li-ion battery! It really will designed and seems to have more off a definite place than this puzzling quad.
This one's kinda spendy too! Again, I don't get this quad....oh well. 🤷😎🤘
We do have a plan for some evergreen type trees, fence and possible something in the space the swing set used to be. That will likely be in the spring. We are pretty excited to be done with the different projects and enjoying the space before we jump into the next phase.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes! Enjoy the fruits of your labor ... And dough! Lol 😂🤘
@@NickBurnsFPV A quick question please. Trying to bind and update my Crossfire nano receiver for my new Fractal DJI whoop! ;)
I flashed EdgeTX a while back. I go to update and bind that receiver and first there's nothing in the Lua scripts area on my QX7. I got to where Lua scripts should reside and nothing, but an old.scripts folder is there. I copy the old scripts into the new Edgetx scripts folder. Go to update, and all Lua scripts are now there, but I still can't get Nano receiver updated or bind it. Any ideas what's next in troubleshooting this? Thanks Nick! :)
@@KOrnhOliO1 I don't use crossfire much, my curiosity is if this is a recent issue I was hearing about with crossfire and the firmware mishaps. Are you running agent lite on the radio? I see that the TBS website notes Agent Lite for edgeTX. They also have the Agent Web, touted as the best method to ensure crossfire is on the most recent versions.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, recent issue after I upgraded to EdgeTX. The receiver is wirelessly updated from the QX7. Nothing happens. Can't bind it to the QX7 either. It's from a Lua script.
I tried Agent Web, but they have no instructions what so ever, and the controls are very primitive, and no where near obvious. To me anyway! They are coders and geeks and expect us to just open it up and it's all crystal clear. Sorry, not the case! Why are so many FPV companies allergic to good instructions?! :(
That looks like the 5” version
No, it's 3.5 inches because everyone on the comments believes it's a 3.5 inch prop. Keep drinking the koolade!
This looks awesome man! Nice flying Nick!
Jedi skills!!!!! 5 inch in the back yard!
Hd zero looked good and kwad flew nice from the video.
Yeah, that's getting on the pricey side, however, a year from now we may be looking back and saying these were the good old days...This one I'm going to pass on, as it's a little to big for my flying style. I'm sure it will be great for some though.
Toothpick size
Either you've shrunk or those are 5" props...
I have the same drone
I kind of miss the swingset :P
I do as well. We have some tentative plans for the swingset space, but won't likely happen until spring.
Pretty sure thats a 5 inch.
Yup
doin' the flight! :)
Full size micro 👊
lol, like I used to be an xxl micro :)
Nick? Is that the 5" version on the bench? The new 3.5 props are beefier than the old ones, and from the start it looked way bigger than it should, check that prop seize ;)
Yes, it's the 5" you reviewed Nick!!!! Am I the first to notice? The 3.5 will be easier in your small space!
Worth checking out JonE5's video on it as he covers the whole racing aspect and who it's tailored for as they have an EMAX rep on site in the video where they're flying too. Think it would be a nice "big park" ripper with it being light and quiet but still emphasis on the BIG part. Nice video Nick 🎈🤡
Yeah, I've found in hard to find non concrete places to fly 5" quads, since I live in the suburbs of a big city.
I think too many people are hung up on 5" and they too find it hard to find good places to fly those, because they require so much space. I never fly mine.
That's why I prefer 3.5" and smaller. You think this is quiet, fly the only 141g Babyhawk 2 HD! It's super quiet yet also freestyles great and does over 20 minute flights on a li-ion battery. 😎🤘
the notch is just in case you want to fly at 70 degrees angle...super fast!!! LOL
That is beyond my backyard abilities.
But no sound
Why?
None of them have sound included in the dvr, the fligh audio in my videos is from a secondary camera sitting near me brought into the video via editing.
I can only count to 4" 😂
I can't wait for the HD zero gogs to come out lol 😁 then alot of these quads with hd zero will start looking more tempting especially at that price point😳 great rip and review nick🤌🏾✌🏾
Same here..
3.5???? My Crux 35 is 3.5.
Pretty sure that's what you call a 5 inch brother.
In my opinion Emax prices are always kind of high for what they are. I have not had great luck with Emax quality or durability. I have had bad quads right out of the box. Don’t buy from their web sight. If you do they will ask you to return it for repairs as opposed to sending you a new quad. They will also try to blame you for the failure.
That being said the BabyHawk 2 HD is in my top 3 of all time (once I got the bugs worked out). However that battery lead location is a problem. It flies like a dream though. Emax does a good job on the tune for that drone and I never changed a thing except the rates. I like to fly slow and cruise around and get good video and that drone will fly for 10 minutes on an 850 and carry a Naked cam no problem at all.
Thank you for leaving your experience with emax products. Its good to know when experiences aren't as expected.
@@NickBurnsFPV Emax has great designs and ideas, but the product is not always up to par. They are a little pricey for having quality issues. I love their products but I think twice about buying them because I always seem to have some kind of quality issue right out of the box. That BabyHawk 2 is a fantastic drone though. One of my favorites for versatility, flight time, and it's pretty quiet and smooth. You can mount a naked cam on that drone and get fantastic and even Cinematic shots. It can fly very slow or pretty darn fast. So I like them, but they let me down quite a bit.
@@Nine_883 understandable, I would hope Emax QC and support would be of the higher tier. I think more and more companies are allowing support to take a backseat. Support can be tricky as well. Sometimes I see FB postings asking for support where the OP didn't contact/email the company support. Or even yet, some have and then move to public support requests as they didn't get a response in the official communication method. Support is often an individual doing the job where it likely needs a team or at least two.
@@NickBurnsFPV Support for me was send an email then wait until the next day for a reply. Most of them are that way because of the time change from China, but I was dealing with the USA office in California and the time change was only 2 hours. So yes one person is not enough. Emax is very popular on Amazon and they sell a lot of beginner kits. They need more support personnel.
The best support I have ever had from a drone company was my very first drone and it was a Holy Stone $49 Amazon special. I quickly bought several more Holy Stone products and although their products were generally less than stellar they were always very helpful and would send you a new drone if you even mentioned sending it back to Amazon.
They don't do FPV as far as I know, but in general they are overpriced and the quality is questionable, but the customer service is outstanding!!
@@Nine_883 Interesting. I am familiar with HolyStone, they send me emails pretty regularly to review their products.
That thing is a screamer!
im not comfortable watching this flight 😅
no worries, just a glitch.
Too big, too fast for your space.
Why on earth did they send you it!!
Anyway.... appreciate your comments and experience with it.
Lol
Too loud! No for me!
At what point did you realize that your holding a 5” 🤔 this 3.5” is quite large. It’s ok I still love your videos.
After I read a few comments and got home to hold it again.
Haha. Like a BOSS!!!!
Emax, that's nice but on the pricey side......relax!
It was some nice flying, I guess it’s a bit pricey but it looks nice. Stay safe
419.99 😆
I almost fainted when I saw the price😂🤣😂🤣
To much money
This 250 grams thing is meaningless